WEBVTT - Ep. 284: Render - The Highs and Lows of Trad Bows 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.200 My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.400 the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.720 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:31.280 of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.480 American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.280 to be as rugged as the place as we explore. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.080 Happy New Year, everybody, Happy new Do you guys notice 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.440 the New year already? We're actually recording live on January first. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.640 I hope everybody's doing great. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:57.480 I'm doing great. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.840 I'm not recording live. We're not recording. We're not We're not. 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.080 So we've got We've got a We've got a great 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.360 crew here today, doctor mister nukem Hello, you're here, very 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.440 interested in your to hear about your projections for twenty 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:15.360 twenty five. We've got Caleb Now, I would I thought 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.440 it was spelled flies, but you tell me it is. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.399 It is spelled flies, but it's pronounced fleece. It's lee German, yes, sir. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.600 Really, finally our Germans on this show. 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:26.720 Another German. What we need. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:32.320 My last name is Spielmacher. It's spelled it's spelled Speelmaker. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:39.720 Nice it's just so unnecessary, over dramatized. Missy always used 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.280 to talk about, uh, our our friends sometimes we go 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.560 to Central America and they would come back and they 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:45.199 would be like. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.560 Having a normal conversation and then just all of a 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:48.480 sudden say I went to. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.240 Yeah, we were down, and then just like talk back 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.920 to their American accent, Caleb, good to have you here, man, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.680 get over here. Thanks. I just I just met Ale today, 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.559 but we've been internet buddies for a pretty long time. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:09.920 And followed along on your traditional archery stuff. And uh 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:15.280 so you're from Norman, Oklahoma, Yes, sir, Norman, Oklahoma. Good 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:21.800 deer hunting over there, Yes, central ter over there, that's terrible. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.160 Deer stay away from it anywhere. As a matter of fact, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.280 go to Iowa. That's where people should deer hunt. All 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.320 people should deer hunt in Iowa. Deer hunting Oklahoma's terrible. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.079 Arkansas is terrible. But you live in Norman, Oklahoma, yes, sir. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:36.359 And you're you're a. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.680 Firefighter, yes, for the city of Norman. Yep. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.480 Nice. How long you've been doing that, I've. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.519 Been doing it six years. I've been at that department 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:44.280 for about four. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.640 Well, I'm gonna come back to you. I need to 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.960 hear like your best fire fireman stories. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.520 Okay, Caleb, do me a favor and pull that microphone 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:53.520 just a little bit closer. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:54.160 Is that better? 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.400 That's much How about that much better? 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:01.679 Okay? We've got Josh Lyndbridge Spiel that's right here. And 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.520 we've got Barr John Newcom also here. See it now, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.880 we're we've got scattered amongst the crew today. We've got 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:13.680 multiple not just traditional bows, but what they call self bows. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.560 Tell me what a self bow is, or tell the people. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.919 So the technical term for self bow would be a 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.200 bow made out of one piece of wood. It's shooting 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.800 the arrow itself. It's not aided by a fiberglass lamination 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.400 or bamboo backing or anything. It's carved out of one 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.720 piece of wood. So it's a bow in the purest form. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:39.160 Is that? So they call itself because it's propelling itself. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.680 It is just it's just made out of one piece 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.560 of wood. It's doing all the work itself. And it's 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.000 commonly confused with be major self But I mean, if 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:49.720 you made a compound in your garage, it wouldn't be 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:50.760 a self bow, you know. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.440 I thought of that. Yeah, Like I made this bow myself. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.760 It's a self bow. No, you wouldn't say that. I 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.040 would like to talk to the guy that named a 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.600 self bow though. Yeah, it is a little bit misleading. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.480 It's uh, the marketings all off on it. I mean, 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.080 what could what would be a better name, a little 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.480 more flashy? You got any ideas, Caleb? 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.280 Well, just I think they have to differentiate between long 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:14.839 bows and recurves because. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.080 Those are cool names. Though. Yeah, but now you have miss. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.680 Can you have a self long bow? 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.080 Yes? 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.359 Yeah, Like so that's a long bow. This is a 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:25.800 long bow. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.760 I'm just saying that it should have been called like 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:32.839 like a one one piece or like like rugged American 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:33.400 one piece? 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:36.840 Is it self propelling? 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.320 Well, it's just doing all the work itself that it 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.400 relies on its strength. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.120 But yeah, that's a better expert. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:44.599 So there are a. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.479 Bunch of primitive guys setting around clacking on rocks with 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.000 these things, and they were like, what are we going 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.680 to call these? And they were like, well, they wouldn't 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.719 even have known what They probably would have just called 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:59.119 them a bow because there wouldn't have been anything else true, Okay, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.479 so these had to be named later, Yeah, because they 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.320 were like the propels. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.120 They must have come up with this name after they have. 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:10.840 There's no wheels there, there's no you know. Anyway, it 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.479 really is the most primitive archery weapon. I never got 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.480 into self bows, or I haven't yet. I've shot traditional 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.480 a lot. I was telling you before we started. I 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:27.400 I shot traditional archery pretty much exclusively for seven years, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.960 like that was my go to weapon. I probably did 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.400 a few rifle hunts like out West or something during 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.640 that time, but for the most part, for for whitetail 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:42.880 and for bear for seven years. And man, I got 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:48.240 into it really just to see if I could, just 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.120 to see if I could do it. You know, we 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:54.679 so my we have a really is part of our family, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.680 not directly, but David Albright is a really good do 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.920 you know. You know a guy named David Alright, he's 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.920 from Arkansas. Bow you're from Arkansas in his seventies and 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.320 he gave me a bow twenty plus years ago, and 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:14.159 he always hunted public land here in Arkansas and killed 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.280 as limited deer with bows that he made. And I 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.599 was shooting you know, compound bows and just felt like, man, 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.599 that is a that's the way to bow hunt. Like 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.320 I mean, even nobody had to tell me. When I 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.680 met David Albright, I was like, this guy's a real deal, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:34.320 and I just was challenged by the way that he hunted, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.159 and he gave me a bow. I started shooting, but 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.080 didn't hunt for like ten years until after I got 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.880 a bow, and then about twenty thirteen, I was like, man, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.120 I'm just gonna go for it now. I killed my 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.960 first deer with a trad bow. I guess that picture 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.159 right there, which would have been two thousand and six. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.000 So yeah, I killed one in two thousand and six 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.839 and then missed several. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.960 Are you wearing that baby carrier when you shot? 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:02.359 No? 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:02.800 That? 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:07.000 Uh so that's Bear on my back there, Caleb. That's neat. Yeah. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.520 So I'd shot that deer and came home and I 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.240 had to get Misty. Misty was actually sick. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.640 Yeah, I got really, really sick. I'll never forget that day. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.080 I got super sick that day. I got a really 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.440 bad migraine, one of the worst I've ever had, knocked 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.480 me out and Bears you was it, little little puppy 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:28.960 and Clay had cub Yeah that come is it? That's true? 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.600 And Clay threw him in the back and went and 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:32.120 got the deer. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.640 Yeah, so so, but it wasn't until twenty thirteen that 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:41.200 I really started seriously hunting with it. And uh, man, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.840 you asked me why I didn't hunt with it as 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.440 much anymore, and I do occasional. I killed a bear 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.640 two years ago, I guess with a with a bow, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:50.320 with a trad bow. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.440 But at a Foalsom point. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.120 Man, it is it is. It's stressful to carry one 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.520 of those things, you know. I mean when you go 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.000 out in the woods and in your limitting factor is 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.840 not only getting close to an animal and not being 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:10.720 detected and finding an animal that you legally can shoot, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.080 but when you do all that right and then you've 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:23.280 got to make a shot instinctively, it's tough. So, I mean, period, 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.560 I hats off. Just was like, man, I want to 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:32.760 remove one of these obstacles to killing wild game, and 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.680 so I started to shoot my compound again. Is that 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:35.680 a sufficient answer? 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.880 Yeah, you approve of that, Yeah, I. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.760 Mean, to each their own. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.040 I was just curious because, like you know, there are 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.079 so many more lows when you're walking around with the 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.559 stick bow. But man, the highs are like nothing I've 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.880 ever felt before. So you know, like I'll I've picked 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.360 up the rifle a few times since I started hunting traditional, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.440 but I've shot traditional my whole life and hunted with 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.960 a gun until I was seventeen or eighteen, and then 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.120 I shot my first year with one, and man, it 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.199 just it's so addicting that I was okay with seeing 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.240 deer at thirty yards that I couldn't shoot, because when 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.199 I would get one at twenty yards and I'd harvest it, man, 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.840 it's just the ultimate reward. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.080 That was good. Yeah, that was year. That was way 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:27.640 better than my reason why I quite Yeah, too hard week. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.760 So when did you start shooting traditional? Did your dad shoot? 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:32.680 Did you grow up hunting? 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.679 I grew up hunting and fishing, but the traditional stuff 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.960 wasn't really anything anyone else in my family did. It 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.440 was just as a kid, like watching any kind of 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.200 movie or anything like from Lord of the Rings or 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.600 like leg Loss. For some reason, those guys with the 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.600 long bows and reekers were always so cool to me. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:50.480 And so I have one that I would shoot in 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.720 the backyard and I would shoot three D tournaments like 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.280 age nine ten, whatever we travel over and I'd shoot. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.280 My older brother would shoot compound, and then I shot 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.200 my first deer with a recurve when I was twelve 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.679 or thirteen, and it was like twenty five yards and 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.640 it stuck in right behind the shoulder and then just drooped, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.320 and so I mean, it didn't hurt the deer, and 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:11.679 I just remember crying. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.240 And be like I wounded it. I wounded it. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.000 My Grandpa's like, no, you're you're fine or whatever. But 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.520 I shot a compound just because that terrible in my 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.360 mind experience, just like I can't I can't shoot a 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.280 heavy enough bow at that point. So I shot compound 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:25.920 and shot quite a few deer with that in a 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.880 rifle until I finally one day decided like I'm I'm 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.679 taking my recurve back out, and you know it's kind 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.080 of rest as history after that. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.600 Yeah, And so you're making your own bows, yes, just 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:37.040 a couple of. 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.880 Those bows, so this one. And I didn't really start 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.720 making them until about six or seven years ago. I 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.360 went to that bow building festival I was talking to 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.400 bear about called Ojam in Oklahoma, and uh, I learned 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.200 to build one there and I just fell in love 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:56.520 with it. So that is that is an osage orange 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.560 boat art. And then it's just got a coppread backing 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.240 their beaver tail handle. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:06.920 That really snaky. So describe what snakey means. Bear, It's 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.440 basically like where the grain of the wood kind of 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.200 goes back and forth like a snake, you know, instead 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.840 of just straight. So this one has a lot of 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.320 curves in the limb and you're able to when they're 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.800 that that what I I mean, I understand it. But 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:26.400 it would be wouldn't be intuitive that even with that curved, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:31.760 that curved limb, that bow still shoots straight. Yes, if 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.240 you can get there your arrow we even bob. No, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.280 as long as that snaky. If your era would like 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.960 curve around the trash and stuff, it'd be nice. That's 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.439 beautiful man, that you're a you're a real craftsman. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.280 Clay described that for people who are just listening. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:52.360 I don't know. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.040 Is that a sixty two inch bow or sixty inches 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.080 fifty nine fifty. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.880 Nine inch bow? It's got a beaver beavertail handle, and 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.800 two big copperhead skins that. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.760 Don't forget about the turquoise dots. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:07.480 Are you scared to touch that? 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:08.720 No, I said, don't forget about that. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.040 I was a little scared to touch it was phrasing 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.360 gonna bite me. Yeah, and that's a flax. I made 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.920 the string out of flax. So I wanted everything for 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.040 my Oklahoma bear hunt to be all natural materials, all 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:24.280 primitive and so yeah, that's my first attempt at a 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.440 flax string. And it works really similar to like a 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.320 decron string. It's really yeah, like the serving is even 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.080 flax on it. And then I carved a little bear 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.800 and underneath the handle, and then inlaid it with crushed turquoise, oh, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.200 a little spar track. And so you tell me about 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.080 tell me about the bear in Oklahoma like it kind 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.040 of you know, you were the first one to kill 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.320 one with a primitive weapon. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.439 Yeah, so four, I guess maybe five years ago. I 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.800 went right after I got married. My friend invited me 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.760 on a bear hunt and he was gonna hunt with 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.120 his long bow and I was just going along to film. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.040 And so I set up in the tree and we 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.960 sat three days, all day sits over bait, and we 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.240 finally had a bear come in. It was a cinnamon 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.800 colored bear came in and I looked over at my 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:09.360 friend and. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:10.720 He was asleep. 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.320 He has four kids, two of our twins, so this 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.560 was kind of his getaway vacation. He was tired, and 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.760 I woke him up and she was twenty five yards 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.120 sitting facing frontal and she winded us and just left. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.520 But I never had any desire to hunt a bear 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.280 until I saw that bear. And it was my first 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.480 time ever seeing a bear in the wild, and just 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:31.920 I don't know what it was about him, but I 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.839 just knew, like from that moment on, I was going 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.280 to be, you know, pursuing bear myself, especially in Oklahoma 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.000 because those mountains are where my mom's side the family 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.760 is from, so I grew up going down there every year. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.679 And it's just so it was a culmination of all 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.800 these different things that were just kind of special to me. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.960 Yeah, but you were the but you wanted to be 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.600 the first guy, or you were conscious of being the 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.040 first guy to kill a bear at least in modern 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:59.440 times and recorded history with a completely primitive setup. Yes, yeah, 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.360 so you were you in a stone point? Now did 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:02.680 you make the point? Yes? 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.320 I didn't have those, you know, because they're obsidian wood 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:11.480 shaft deer sin you self knocks deer sindu on the knox, 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:17.400 and turkey feathers. So I tried for four years just 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.560 I would have bear every year, and then you know 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.560 October one or late September they really started pulling off. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.440 And then you know, last year, just everything came together. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.760 And was it just last year that you killed it, 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:29.320 like twenty three. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:34.320 Yes, sir, twenty three, so the oko years ago, that's right, it's. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:38.320 Twenty twenty five, that's right, yep. But it was. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.040 Yeah, it was an addiction. Like my wife would probably 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.720 tell you, I was unwell, like because I live Central 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.920 Oklahoma's four hours from you know, where my bare lease was. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.320 So I was driving down twice a week to bait, 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.320 and then last year I was doing that and then 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:53.560 also going to Arkansas. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.360 So I mean I love it going on yeah, yeah, 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.920 so ah that's cool. Did it perform good on the Yeah? 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.480 So I got both lungs and then that stone point 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:08.160 buried in the off side ribs, so I got good penetration. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.960 How far away was he when you shot him? 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.120 She was like six or seven yards, I mean right there. 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.080 How high were you in the tree? I wasn't. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.680 I was probably about eight or nine feet, but because 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.320 I was on a hillside, she was probably only five 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.520 or six feet beneath me. Really, so it was a 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.200 really really close shot and she was a good size sow. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:34.880 So you know, the the reason that we made the 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:36.840 bear pit. Have you seen our bear pit? 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.160 Yes, and I've seen that video. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:42.160 It was it was It was pretty intentional because I 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:47.840 wanted to shoot a bear like five yards on the ground, 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.480 you know, or you know, because I didn't. I didn't 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.040 want to be way up above him and get just 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.240 one entry hole and then not get much blood. I 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.000 wanted to be on the ground, and you know, you could, 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.200 you could have made a little ground blind or something, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.440 but I felt like digging that hole in the way 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.160 we did it would help us with synth. And it 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.440 turns out it's it's a pretty good strategy. Yeah, and 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.320 it's cool. Yeah, Yeah, it's fun hunting in there. So 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.560 bear killed one in there this year, which will be 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.720 which will be really cool but. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.120 Awesome. Yeah. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:25.440 So how did how did bears come? 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.480 Because I've seen your video and it just seems to 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.960 pop out of the side like, yeah, just right in 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:31.520 front of you all of a sudden, did you was 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.040 you similar or did you see. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:33.720 It the first day? 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.160 It did exactly that. It came around the right side 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.080 of that triangle and then just stuck its head out, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.720 like I measured it with the bow and it was 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.960 like four inches past my bow, so I mean it 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.840 was like six feet or something. But the second day, 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.320 whenever I actually killed it, it just came in from 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.360 head on and I shot it and I saw it 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.960 coming from a long wayst Yeah, it didn't just swing 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.000 around the corner like yours. But I ended up shooting 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.320 it at like probably ten yards. When you say, yeah, 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:05.120 that's like, that's part of the rea. When I didn't 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.920 shoot trad for a long time. That was part of 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.600 the reason I dug the pit is because I didn't 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.119 want to miss one at ten yards, right, I was 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.200 just like I want to shoot one. And that bear 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.479 that I killed for real was as close as that 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.119 one was to you. I mean it just was. It 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.680 just walk right up from me. It was like three 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.680 yards like from here to that light. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.320 You know, what's the like filling contrast of being in 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.679 a tree versus the ground, Because this year I was 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.000 on the ground and I didn't get a shot at anything. Barriess, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.760 But is that like a whole new level of nerves 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.200 And I. 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.720 Don't know, is it bear? I don't know. I think 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.280 it's pretty when they just swing around the corner and 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:44.520 you just don't see him at all, and all of 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.760 a sudden, there's a bear six feet from you. That's 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:49.680 a little more different being on the ground with him 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.720 a little different. But when it came in just head on, 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.280 I would say, it was about like being in a 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:53.800 tree stand. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:54.919 Yeah. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:18:06.880 Yeah, well let's let's let's let's do a little let's 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:07.640 do a little thing here. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:13.119 Okay, okay, So it's it's twenty twenty five and us 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.240 still a little reflection on last year, twenty twenty four. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.960 Personal reflection, Bear Grease reflection. Well, I was thinking about 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.600 reflection on the world at large. 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.600 I was thinking about like going through kind of your 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.679 your hunting season highs and lows, which you could, Misty, 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.880 you could you could amend that to fit what you want. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.720 Did you know that Misty is highly involved in a 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:45.320 pretty sketchy quilting game, quilting club they called it. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.320 I had no idea. It was this is going to 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:49.960 be unveiled here with. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.760 My mother in law, with Josh's mother in law and 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.280 another lady we won't even we won't even say her name. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:02.719 But I mean they're constantly quilting, They're constantly getting you know, 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:07.600 fabric from weird places and stitching stuff together that should 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:12.119 never be stitched together. It's uh yeah, and they just 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.200 spend so much time. I just feel like it's taken 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.840 away from their families, market fabric. I feel like there 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.240 it's it's really wild. So if you want to talk 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.920 about that, let's reflect on that. You can h Barret 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.000 tell us about your season start, you know, like just 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.359 take this like a few minutes, like what was what? 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:28.639 What? 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.880 What were we were your first hunts? How'd you do? 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.359 My years started off really good, even though it's still 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:40.320 technically last season. Sure, January, what'd you do? I forgot January? 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.000 Oh wait a minute, that was I thought my Bob 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.400 cows in January. I was in December. Okay, okay, January. 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:49.720 I got a beaver though with the self bow, which 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.080 was my second critter with the self bow. Uh so yeah, 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:57.080 started out the year with a nice beaver. Uh and 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:02.040 then a turkey in the spring public land ozark turkey 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:09.200 bush whacked him. Yeah, then the honorable bushwhack. That's honorable bushwhack. 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.280 After you've hunted for like ten days, you just do 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.760 whatever it takes, that's right. Yeah, And it's probably harder 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.600 than calling them up. Yeah. Well, and then I made 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:23.879 my first bow in either February or March. Okay. And 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:28.640 then so well, oh that was you were using David 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.440 Albright's self bow, got it? So you made you made 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.960 yet first my first four yep? Okay. And then let's 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:41.000 see summertime, caught a forty two pound catfish, noodle, the 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:41.800 big catfish. 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:42.920 Uh. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.280