1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: We welcome you to another edition of the Official Titans Podcast, 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. The OTP always features 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Amy Wells. Hello, Mike, how are you? Oh? I am 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: so good better now that we're doing another edition of 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: the OTP. Everybody's together because gets who's back? The great 6 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Jim Watt from Tennessee Titans dot Com. I'm here, I'm 7 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: in a rocket chairs I've been rocking in out of 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: the picture here. Don't do that. Stop doing that? Please 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: please just continue that. And of course a man who 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: is the spokesperson for Farm Bureau Health Plans himself, coach 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Dave Magetnis. How are you hi, guys. It's so good 12 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: to see you. You know what I said earlier, I 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: feel like a puppy when every somebody comes in the house. 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you guys. You know how 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: you how your dog's always so happy to see you, 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Like you've been gone forever and you've been gone for 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: ten minutes. I miss you, guys. This is great seeing 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: everybody all right. So we are in the hours. We 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: are literally down two hours before the NFL Draft on Monday. 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Titans head coach Mike Rabel, Titans general manager John Robinson 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: spoke to the media, Jim, what what if anything jumped 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: out to you? Well, he had a dog barking through 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: the conference calling coach Mike was referring to a little 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: bit earlier. He didn't give up too much. Uh, you know, 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: he said that, you know, as usual, he's open for 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: business as far as the trade goes. You know, potentially 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily bother him if the team had to move 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: by the first round, as long as it could get 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: more picks. You know. The Clowney question came up, David 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: and Clowney obviously has been a top of the conversation 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: around the NFL, and the Titans have been linked to 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: him since John Robinson expressed an interest in him a 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: couple of weeks to go and said what the team 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: does in the draft certainly could impact what happens with Clowney. 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: They may circle back to him before the draft or 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: after the draft, so we'll have to see what happens here. 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: But didn't reveal much. I mean, he knows how to 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: play this game and talk through some of the issues 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: that the team and teams across the league could be 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: dealing with. The different draft this year obviously a virtual 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: draft opposed to know how we've seen it so many 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: years in the past. Amy, what if anything grabbed you 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: from the pre draft news conference on Monday, you know, 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: John Robinson was kind of walking us through the technology 45 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: aspect and what things are going to be different, and 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: I was surprised by the amount of different channels that 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: he is going to be a part of and be 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: plugged into all at once. He has his scouts on 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: a separate channel from some of the people who would 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: usually be in that war room, which is a separate 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: channel from all the other thirty one general managers. He's 52 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: going to have a lot of moving parts in a 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: lot of different screens that he's going to be monitoring. 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see how all of that unfolds. 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: And it was cool for me to be able to 56 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: get a little bit of an insight into what that 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: exactly is going to look like come Thursday. Coach Mack, 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: as you talk to your friends, colleagues, everybody that you 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: know around the league, what are you hearing about the 60 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: technology and the concerns that people have, if any, going 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: forward in this process. Well, some are more challenged than others. 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: And I think you know, since we've been into this 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: situation for a while. Now people are getting more comfortable 64 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: with it. I talked to some people after they're dry running. 65 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: It was a little challenging at first. I think the 66 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: mute button is the big thing that everybody has to 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: give you to, you know, when everybody is hooked up. 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but just learning how to operate it. But 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: the overall feeling is is that we're going to be okay, 70 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: We're going to be fine. You know, Amy referenced, you 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: know what, John Robinson, how many different areas he's going 72 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: to be hooked up to and hooked into. And I think, look, 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: I think all of the IT departments in the National 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Football League are very very accomplished. I mean, in this 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: day and age, you hire those people to do that. 76 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: And then plus I mean, you know, John Robinson is 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: very very tech savvy. There are some general managers and 78 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: some head coaches that are not as tech savvy, but 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: they are going to have some help with it. And 80 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: so to me, the biggest thing I came away with 81 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: is we're interested to see how it works, but we're 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: also looking forward to making it work. Not anybody that 83 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: I talked to said we just don't like this at all. Nobody. 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: I got that from nobody, which mac Let me stay 85 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: with you for just a second. Jenevian Clowney has not 86 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: signed with anybody at this point, and obviously Titan fans 87 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: are very interested in that because the Titan's name has 88 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: been mentioned with him on multiple occasions. But why has 89 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: nobody signed the big man yet? What is he waiting on? 90 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: And or what our team waiting on? What everybody was 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: waiting on early? I mean, we we've said it several 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: times and here here's what it is. They're waiting on 93 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: the money, okay, because the money is up there at 94 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: a high, high range. And also you know, they're waiting 95 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: on the physical because nobody's been able to physically get 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: their doctors in front of him or him in front 97 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: of the doctors, and so they're not going to make 98 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: that move now. And look the way that we're doing 99 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: things virtually right now anyway, there really is no rush. 100 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: And now with the draft coming up, I would anticipate 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: people waiting until after the draft to see what that 102 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: draft you know, has brought in that position, to see 103 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: where they're lining up now after the draft, with the 104 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: positions they're able to accumulate, and then they'll revisit it. 105 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: The same teams that are interested in him now are 106 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: going to be interested in him after the draft. Interesting answering, Jim. 107 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: I want to go to you on this because someone 108 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: brought this point up to me and I didn't know it, 109 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: largely because the Titans have not been in line for 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: a compensatory pick in quite some time. But if you 111 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: sign a free agent after the draft, he does not 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: count towards the compensatory formula. So whatever you've done, whatever 113 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: you've lost and gained as of the draft, that determines 114 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: your compensatory formula for twenty twenty one. How much of 115 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: it do you think are teams right now saying let's 116 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: wait till after the draft because we want to make 117 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: sure we get as mini picks next year as possible. 118 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Certainly a factor, and I've heard people speculate that being 119 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: potentially the reason that Titans are waiting, that if you 120 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: wait sign them after the draft, then you're gonna get 121 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: a third round pick for Jack Conslin leaving. I don't 122 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: know that you that teams are necessarily doing it because that, yes, 123 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: it would be an advantagement to play that game. Then 124 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: you're certainly putting yourself in a position to have somebody 125 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: else jump out and get them. So I think you 126 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: you know, you've got a factor in like like coach 127 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: Mike said, as hell, and the questions are around what 128 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: he would do as far as a physical as concerned 129 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: the money part of him. And you mentioned the big 130 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: Man being on the market, Well, the big Man wants 131 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: a big, a big contract as well. And he initially 132 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: said he was going to play for twenty million a year. 133 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: You know he's now said maybe seventeen to eighteen million. 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm working on my most recent mailback. Somebody's asking me 135 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: about whether he potentially play for a one year proven 136 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: deal for twelve to fourteen million. That's up to Jadeveon 137 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: Clowney and I don't know whether he's willing to do 138 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: that or not. So you've got a lot of factors 139 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: to have to consider. And I think when you mentioned 140 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Clowney and some of the things that's around him, and 141 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: there's one other free agents that played for the Titans 142 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: last year, Logan Ryan finds himself in a similar situation 143 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: that you know you money as a factor. Hell, it's 144 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: not necessarily a factor, was Logan. Money's a factor and 145 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: the danger that some of these players will be faced 146 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: with if if the team that's interested in them right 147 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: now decides to pick somebody in that draft and and 148 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: addresses it with multiple picks of that position, you're probably 149 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: going to lose someone who is courting you at the time. 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of things to factor in in the 151 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: compensatory pick is a good question, certainly a part of 152 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: the equation. Speaking of staying in Amy Wells, you've started 153 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: doing a new feature for the Titans social media channels, 154 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: checking in with Amy Wells, where you've spent time checking 155 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: in with former and current Tennessee Titans players. As you 156 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: have recorded these and as you've talked to these guys 157 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: who are having to stay at home, both former players 158 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: and current players. Is there a common thread that you're 159 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: hearing amongst all of them. Well, it's interesting everybody is 160 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: trying to stay in and just take it one day 161 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: at a time. But with current players specifically, every single 162 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: guy has talked about getting back to the basics in 163 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: terms of keeping their bodies ready for what will happen 164 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: when we eventually are able to return to our training facility. 165 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Guys are doing a lot of like pushups and sit 166 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: ups and things that a lot of guys have SA 167 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: I haven't done this stuff since high school, you know. 168 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: I talked to Rashaun Evans and he was like, I 169 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting ready for the state championship game 170 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: now instead of getting ready for the super Bowl. But 171 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: these are the types of things that they're doing. They're 172 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: really getting back to their roots, I guess when it 173 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: comes to training, And it's been really interesting because we 174 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: know that teams are trying to keep up their kind 175 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: of routine training plans that they have for individual guys, 176 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: but a lot of guys are just ditching the equipment 177 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: and ditching some of the things that they've gotten used 178 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: to as NFL players and are just really going back 179 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: to like rocky style workouts. So that's been cool to 180 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: hear guys really taking it, like back to the garage 181 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: to get their bodies ready for the season. Coach back 182 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: a lot of what is being discussed right now with 183 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: the virtual offseason. I think a quarter of the team 184 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: started this week, the rest will start next week, and 185 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: we'll be able to go three straight weeks. From your 186 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: understanding what you're hearing, what will they be able to 187 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: get done during the virtual offseason that they're going to 188 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: get a chance to start having. You know, I don't 189 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: think you'll have the big team meetings because that's a 190 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, to to to put onto 191 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: to one screen at one time. But I think that 192 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: when they break it down to their individual groups, both 193 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: defensively and offensively, and then down to the subsets of 194 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: the of the position rooms, you can get your installation in. Virtually, 195 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: that will be no problem. You can get that in. 196 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: You can get feedback, you know, just like we're getting 197 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: feedback from one another right here. Visually you can do it, 198 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: and so they will be able to they will be 199 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: able to get you know, all of their all of 200 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: their installation in, you know, once they start, once they 201 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: are able to start doing that. I liked what Mike 202 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: Vrabel said he has has told his coaches they've met 203 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: as a coaching staff about keeping it basic to begin with, 204 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: because that's going to be extremely extremely important to get 205 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: everybody back on the same page. You've got to get 206 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: into the football mindset. That's what's the great thing. When 207 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: they all come back together in the facilities like they 208 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: normally do, you know, you leave all of the offseason 209 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: thought process behind you, and then you're back into the 210 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: NFL team concept. Well, now they're going to have to 211 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: translate that team concept virtually, and he wants them to 212 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: get back into that mindset and that mode first, but 213 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to do it. I spoke 214 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: with a college coach about the way the NC Double 215 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: A is doing it. The NC Double A started out 216 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: just allowing their coaches four hours a day with their players. 217 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: They're upping it to eight hours next week, okay, And 218 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: so clearly you can get something done, and they will 219 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: get something done. The Titans will be very organized. I 220 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: do know that I want to mention right now that 221 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: this is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 222 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: Healthcare coverage from Bureau Health Plans is like an extra 223 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: set of pads when you need them the most. They've 224 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven Farm Bureau 225 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: Health Plans. You know, I love the fact that Farm 226 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Bureau is now sponsoring the OTP. But I absolutely love that. 227 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: That is fabulous. You are the face of Farm Bureau 228 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Health Plans. How did you get that gig? I'm not 229 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: the face, but I'm a big fan, it's coach back. 230 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Are you doing yours from the Oval office or from 231 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: maybe a room at the Biltmore Hotel. It's just the 232 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: spare room in a Snashville. That's where I'll invite you. 233 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: I'll invite you to this room sometime. Jim. That's where 234 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: he plays clue with his friends. So and so it's 235 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: a kid pick in Coach Max's fancy room. Looks like 236 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: they filmed the movie Knives Out. Maybe in that room. 237 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: There you go, Jim Wyatt, do you believe? And then 238 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Amy Wells you get to go next, followed by Coach Mack. 239 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: Do you believe that former Alabama quarterback to tongue of 240 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: Aloa is falling towards Thursday night based on health concerns? 241 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: It's funny this draft, there's so much floating out there, 242 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: just like every draft. I suspect it's true, just because 243 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: of the injury questions that he had coming out of college, 244 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: and then you heard more rumors about some other injuries 245 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: he had that were never disclosed. The teams have not 246 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to do as much research and get 247 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: as much medical information on him as normal. So I 248 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: believe that that is in fact true. I think he 249 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: is sliding in this draft. I agree. I think that 250 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: not being able to get hands on with some of 251 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: these guys, and especially someone who had such a big 252 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: injury that had so many questions around it, I think 253 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: that teams are going to play it safe. If you 254 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: were hot on him to begin with, you're still hot 255 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: on him. Okay, if you were cold on him right now, 256 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: you're cold on him. Because people knew going in that 257 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: he was injured. I mean, you knew this now. Jim's 258 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: point as far as to not being able, I tell 259 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: you who did get to see him. Every doctor of 260 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: every team saw him at the combine. Every doctor of 261 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: every team saw him at the combine. And if they didn't, 262 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: they have all the combine information. So if you, as 263 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: an organization need a quarterback and you were a too 264 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: A fan going into the twenty twenty draft, you're still 265 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: a too A fan. If you were on the fence, 266 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: you're probably leaning to the other side of the fence 267 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: right now. But I don't think it's a I don't 268 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: think it's a It's a real dramatic fall though. Do 269 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: you think he gets by the Chargers coach mac at 270 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: number six? I think he gets by the Chargers. Wow. 271 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: To me, if there's any movement in this first round, 272 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: this movement is going to be for quarterbacks. The movement 273 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: always is for quarterbacks. You heard John Robinson. He's already 274 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: started talking the drafts I was involved in with clubs, 275 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, before you know I started doing this. I mean, 276 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: you're you've already been on the phone for quite a 277 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: while and you're talking to people, You're texting people saying, hey, 278 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: you know you got time to talk about this? Does 279 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: this interest you? So I think he'll get past them, 280 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Yes I do. I'm not so sure the Chargers will 281 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: be there. Wow. Well that's strong, all right. So let 282 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: me ask you this, and you start with this, coach, 283 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: Why why in the world are the New York Giants 284 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: talking to Oregon quarterback Justin Herbert. Do you know Dave Getleman. 285 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, Look, Dave has been at this a 286 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: long time. And and you talk about guys that are 287 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: old school, that are that are running drafts. He's probably 288 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: as old school as it gets. You used to do 289 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, very very important to do. 290 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: Just exactly for the reason that you asked the question. 291 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: He's got everybody else asking why are they talking to 292 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: him right now? He's got everybody else asking that question, 293 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: not focusing on who they may pick, or he might 294 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: be fishing for somebody to come up to get him, 295 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: thinking if I want Herbert, i'd better move if he's 296 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: truly disinterested in it. All right, Jim White, I got 297 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: one for you. Jacksonville supposedly has Yannique Ingockway, the defensive 298 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: end who signed a franchise contract, and Leonard Fournette on 299 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: the trading block. Do they deal one or both this weekend? 300 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I think the deal both. Well, there's some bad blood, 301 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, bruin even more within Gockway on Twitter earlier 302 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: this week got into a few little war of words 303 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: with the owner's son which got pretty ugly and got 304 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: pretty personal, and I don't know if you can repair 305 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: that one, to be honest with you. And then the Fournette, 306 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: a buddy of mine, Ryan o' holleran, who now covers 307 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: the Broncos that you know, previously covered the Jaguars, you know, 308 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: made a point over the weekend usually when the Jaguars 309 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: start floating players out there as far as trade bade 310 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: that they're done with them, and the fact that he 311 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: is being mentioned as somebody that they are willing to move, 312 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: tells me that they're moving them. So I say both 313 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: of them are going to be on the move at 314 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: some point before the two twenty season, whether it happens 315 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: during the draft, after the draft, but before the season starts. 316 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: I think I'll be surprised if I see either one 317 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: of them playing against the Tennessee Titans as a Jaguar. 318 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: Just anybody happy to be a Jaguar right now? Doug 319 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: maron how many players have tried to get out of 320 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: there lately? I mean, I'm serious. I mean, you think 321 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: about it. The biggest news you hear out of Jacksonville 322 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: and this whole lost season is who wants to leave? 323 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: That's not good. I say, send them to the NFC. 324 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: Good ridden I mean, they've got two number one picks. 325 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville has nine and twenty. You wouldn't think they could 326 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: get a number one for four NET because running backs 327 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: generally don't go for that kind of market when they're traded. 328 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: But what do you think they could get for fourg NET? 329 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: And what do you think in Gokwai could bring? Well? 330 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll get a first round pick for 331 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: anybody just because they've already floated it out there that 332 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: they want to move them. And so that tells you 333 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: that you know they're going to be available somehow to 334 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: me during the draft. To Jim Wiatt's point, if somebody 335 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: really needs, you know, somebody to rush the passer badly, 336 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: and they and they're they're out, their pass rush board 337 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: is dry, they may say, okay, we will give you 338 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: to me. If they're traded. They may not be traded 339 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: for this year's draft, they may be traded for futures. 340 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: And so I think there's a possibility that they will 341 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: both be moved during the draft because, especially on the 342 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: second day, second and third days of the draft, you 343 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: as a club kind of have an idea now how 344 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: your your roster is fleshing out. And so if somebody says, look, 345 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: we're really void, here, here's what we can do. Here's 346 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: what we'll give you, Here's what we have left in 347 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: this draft. Here's what we've got possibly left for next year. 348 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: That's what I think will happen. All right, let me 349 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: go back to your here coach for this one. Washington's 350 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: head coach is Ron Rivera. You coach Ron Rivera through 351 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: his entire time in Chicago. You know him. Well, Washington 352 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: does not have a general manager currently. Supposedly they're gonna 353 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: hire one after the draft, So people figure Ron Rivera 354 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: is making the picks this weekend. If that's the case, 355 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: is there any way in the world any chance that 356 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: he does not take Chase Young? I don't think so. 357 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: You know what this reminds me of. This reminds me of, 358 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: and it's it's interesting that we're talking about. You know, 359 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera and John Fox have got the same type 360 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: of connection with it with this. When John Fox, you know, 361 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: had that job down there in Carolina, he had a 362 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: chance to get Julius Peppers and I off to Foxy 363 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: before before that and he said, you know what, there's 364 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: no way, I don't care what we need. Anybody would 365 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: need this guy. And I think that's exactly what Ron 366 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: Rivera will do. You can never have too many guys 367 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: that have a special ability to put pressure on a quarterback. 368 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: You know, the sacks will come, but just to put 369 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: pressure and make somebody when they're offensively game planning, say look, 370 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to turn our line this way, or 371 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to chip this way. Chase Young is 372 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: that dude in this draft? He is that dude. The 373 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: next dude behind him is Chase On but he's not 374 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: what Chase Young is. I think Ron Rivera will stick 375 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: right there and take that player. All right, Jim Wyatt 376 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: back to you here, and we're gonna get all three 377 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: of you to comment on this. You have said, as 378 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: you've gotten questions in your mailbag at Tennessee Titans dot com, 379 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: that you believe the Titans will draft the best player 380 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: available at number twenty nine, And you're not saying regardless 381 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: of position. I know there certain positions they probably wouldn't go, 382 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: but your point is they are not bound to one 383 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: or two spots. Am I interpreting what you're saying correctly 384 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: from what I read? Yeah, I think best player available 385 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: at a position and need. And what I mean there is, 386 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: if let's say a quarterback happens to fall, I don't 387 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: think too a tog of the low is gonna be 388 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: around at twenty nine. But if you had somebody that fell, 389 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: some people might consider them the best player. But I 390 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: can't see the Titans taking a quarterback. So, but what 391 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: you have to consider going in this draft? And I 392 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: think the Titans have so many areas that could be 393 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: addressed that there's a lot on the table. And that 394 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: includes defensive line, that includes cornerback, that includes offensive tackle, 395 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: edge rusher, even a running back. I mean it's as 396 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: crazy as that sounds. If somebody's special is sitting around 397 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: and you move back and could get extra picks, I 398 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: could see the team doing just about anything other than 399 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback, a kicker, a long snapper, an interior, 400 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: a lineman. Yeah, and into your aligement. I think best 401 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: player available at a position that could that could make 402 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: an immediate impact. And a quarterback is not going to 403 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: make an immediate impact of the Titans because they have 404 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: the team has its quarterback. Amy, when you hear that, 405 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: how does that strike you? Knowing what you know about 406 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: John Robinson. I think that Jim summed it up perfectly. 407 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: I think that pretty much anything is possible for this 408 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Titans team within reason. You know, I don't think anything 409 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: bananas is going to happen. But John Robinson said it himself. 410 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: He loves moving around on draft day. He loves to 411 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: have all of these options. And we know John Robinson, 412 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: we know that he's had all kinds of lines in 413 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: the water seeing what will tub. So I think that 414 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: Jim's absolutely right that there's there's not a lot of 415 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: things that could be surprising to me. Anyway, come Thursday night, 416 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: coach Mac. Yeah, you know, let me expand a little 417 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: bit on what Jim said. Say you get to twenty nine, 418 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: and believe me, John Robinson will have already talked to 419 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: people before they're on the clock. You know that, we 420 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: all know that. But you get down there and there 421 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: is a position of need that's there that has more 422 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: of those players of position and need. This is where 423 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: your horizontal draft board comes into play. This is where 424 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: you take your vertical draft board out of it and 425 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: then you start to look at your horizontal board. And 426 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: that's why it's so important because now say you're down 427 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: there with a corner and you've got four corners kind 428 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: of grouped in the same spot, or you get down 429 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: there and there's a say and say there's an offensive 430 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: tackle and you've got tackles kind of in the same 431 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: spot group for the next round, and you start talking 432 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: to trade partners that would be within the range that 433 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: you think some of those may be that could help 434 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: you get a player similar that you have graded very 435 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: similar and then pick up extra picks. That's the way 436 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: I think he will go. I don't think he's going 437 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: to zero in on one person. I think once he's 438 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: to twenty nine, he will zero in on his horizontal 439 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: board and zero in on pods of players and positions, 440 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: because when you pod players up, you compare them not 441 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: only to the players that are in that position, but 442 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: that are horizontally across the board in the different positions 443 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: are in the same pod. All right, So let me 444 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: stay with you for a second, Coach, and I want 445 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: to go back across to Jim next and then to Amy. 446 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: If you had to rank the odds of what the 447 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: Titans are most likely to do in the hours leading 448 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: up to the draft, would trading back be the number 449 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: one on that list in terms of the most likely scenario, 450 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: Coach Mac In my mind, yes, Jim Wyatt, I agree, 451 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: But it really just depends on who's there. Because if 452 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: you've got a cluster of players that you like, and 453 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: you can move back and assure yourself that you're going 454 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: to get one of them in a position to move 455 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: back to, that that makes a lot of sense to me. Amy, 456 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: I think that's number one for me. Okay, I want 457 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: to do something else, Jim, Why does something at Tennessee 458 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: Titans dot Com that I just love? I love your 459 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: look at the mock drafts, fifty of them this week. 460 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Usually when you do them, you have the majority of 461 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: the people taking the same position, the same player. They're 462 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: they're all over the place and the leading this year's draft. 463 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna play the game. Surprised if 464 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: they take him, or not surprised if the scenario happens, Amy, Jim, Then, coach, 465 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: all you have to do is no, it's fun. All 466 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: you have to do a surprise that the Titans took 467 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: this player or not surprised? You ready? Sure? All right? 468 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Marlon Davidson defensive lineman, Albert not surprised, not surprised, not surprised. 469 00:25:49,160 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson offensive tackled Georgia, not surprised, surprised, surprise. Trevon 470 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: Diggs cornerback, Alabama. Not surprised, not surprised, not surprised. Brandon 471 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: I you wide receiver, Arizona State. Surprise surprised, AH coach 472 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: Mack coach Mac, I love Brandon. I I know that's 473 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: the game coach, not surprised. He says Justin Jefferson, wide receiver, 474 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Louisiana State University. Surprise as they surprised, not surprised. Ezra Cleveland, 475 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: offensive tackle, Boise State, not surprised, not surprised That one 476 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: does not surprise me. These are ones again, what the 477 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: game is here on the OTP is I'm mentioning guys 478 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: who have been put with the Titans mock drafts, and 479 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out the names. I'm asking our panel, 480 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: would you be surprised if they end up with the 481 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: Titans or not surprised? The next name Josh Jones, offensive tackle, Houston, 482 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: not surprised, surprised, surprised. Austin Jackson, offensive tackle, Southern California 483 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: coach Max seems very strongly nodding here, I'm gonna go 484 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: and not surprised. Amy loves this game. I don't love 485 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: this game. I would say, not surprised, not surprised. Ross 486 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: Blacklock defensive line at TCU bro not surprised, I think, 487 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: not surprised, not surprised. You Tour Gross Mottoes defensive line, 488 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: edge player, Penn State. Surprised, not surprised, not surprised. Kristen Fulton, cornerback, 489 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: LSU surprised, not surprised, not surprised on that one. Zach 490 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Bawn edge rusher, Wisconsin. Not surprised, not surprised, surprised. Jeff 491 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Gladne cornerback TCU brog not surprised, not surprised, it was 492 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: a frog. Not surprised. Jeremy chan safety Southern Illinois. Surprise, surprised, surprised, 493 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: but nice name. Yes, these have all been mentioned as 494 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: Titans and mock drafts that Jim had at Tennessee Titans 495 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: dot Com. Aj epinessa outside linebacker, defensive and iowas not surprised. 496 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: That surprised me a little. Jalen Johnson cornerback Utah, not surprised, 497 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: I stay surprised. That would surprise me. Andrew Thomas, offensive tackle, Georgia, 498 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: not surprised. I stay surprised. Yeah, I'm not surprised. Be 499 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: surprised if he's there, wouldn't you from what we're reading. 500 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: A lot of these names, A lot of these names. 501 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: I like this game though, all right, it's a good game. 502 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: Jonathan Jonathan Taylor, running back, Wisconsin. I would be surprised, 503 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: I say surprised. You know Swift was in there before 504 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: and he got replaced by one of the guys doing 505 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: the mock drafts. I think a running back would surprise me. 506 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: It will be a nice weapon I have. You only 507 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 1: have one pick, Jim surprised Terrell Lewis outside linebacker Alabama. 508 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised, not surprised, surprised. Denzel MEM's wide receiver Baylor. 509 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised, surprised, surprised. That's twenty different names mentioned 510 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: with the Titans in the mock drafts. That's why the 511 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: draft is so great. I mean it really is because 512 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 1: there are thirty two different rooms. Now, there's a lot 513 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: of more different rooms than that. If there's thirty two 514 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: different decision makers, and that is why this is such 515 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: a great exercise. But I love doing that exercise and 516 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: the biggest reason I love doing it is watching Amy 517 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: Wells's face. It's so worth it to me. It's a trait. 518 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't like it. Coachmack, do you have a favorite layer, 519 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: regardless of round in this draft? A favorite football player? 520 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: Just a favorite? Yeah? Just somebody you just like. Man, 521 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: I just love this guy. I love the way he plays. 522 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: It's not doesn't matter which round. I just enjoyed. I 523 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: just enjoyed watching him play ball. A Meek Robertson from 524 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: louisi Antitech. Oh is he? Is? He the next honey Badger? 525 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: That guy? I tell you what you know for DB's 526 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: being able to stay in phase, then being able to 527 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: be competitive at the catch point, and then just have 528 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: a dog mentality to you. I love the way this 529 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: kid plays. It's so much fun to watch him play. 530 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: And I don't. I mean, he's five eight, a buck 531 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: eighty five maybe, but that dude plays ball. I love 532 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: watching guys that love to play ball. He loves to 533 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: play ball. Fourteen picks in three years playing down There, 534 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: had a chance to go to LSU at the end 535 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: of his recruiting process and said nope, I'm gonna stick 536 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: with my commitment to Louisiana Tech and then became all 537 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: world there. Mike Detailia, who is best friends with ed Oseron, 538 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: best friends since childhood, literally there it is with his 539 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: Mike D Guide. Here's mine, my Mike B guide right here. Amy, 540 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: you didn't get one, I've got it. Yeah, Mike has mine. 541 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: Mike Detailia says it's ed Oseron's biggest mistake since he 542 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: became head coach at LSU in terms of recruiting a 543 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: Meek Roberts. Wow, that's a that's a great that's a 544 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: great story right there. Would you watch him play? If 545 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: you like watching ball, watch bess kid play football. I'd 546 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: love to coach that kid. My favorite player and I 547 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: have an SEC biased I admitted, but Clyde Edwards, a 548 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: layer from Lsu is mine. I think the guy is 549 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: just a ball player. I know he's five seven. This 550 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: is the year of short backs too. I mean Swift 551 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: is five eight and they're a bunch of number five 552 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: nine McFarland I think from Maryland is five eight. But 553 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: I love Edward Zilaire. I like his fierceness. I like 554 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: how he runs inside. He's got a little Emmett Smith 555 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: to him. Does it seem like he should get through 556 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: holes that he does? He can catch the ball. I 557 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: love this player gets in the end zone. I think 558 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna steal him on day two, Jim, do you 559 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: have a favorite player. I have an SEC boss too. 560 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: I've met Jerry Judy. I just like the way he plays. 561 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: I like his speed. I like his ability just to 562 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: kind of glode almost and still race past defenders. I 563 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a special pro. All right, Amy Wells, 564 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: you can't say somebody from Missouri. I mean, I guess 565 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: you know I will. But here's my thing. My chance 566 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: to evaluate this crop of players has been taken from 567 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: me because the pre draft desits have all been moved 568 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: for virtual and that is where I falla So, and 569 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: let's tell everybody. Amy gets to interview players free draft visits, 570 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: and so she gets to know them, and she always has. 571 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: She always has her views based on not only the tape, 572 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: spending time with coach Matt getting the feelings from that, 573 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: but you get to know. I get to know them, 574 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: and I get to have conversations with them, and so 575 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: I didn't get very many this year. So I'm going 576 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: to have to just pick Justin mad A Bouquet mad 577 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: A Bouquet out of Texas, A and M. I've enjoyed 578 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: watching him. I've had a chance to watch a little 579 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: bit of his tape and some of the things that 580 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: he does, and holy smoked, he is a big dude. 581 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: So that's my favorite player that I'm rooting for. And 582 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if he was a Titan. You know 583 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: who has been training him getting ready for the draft. 584 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Former Titan defensive lineman. Who Sean Smith. Well, there you go, 585 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: see part of the family already. Where does Matta Bouk 586 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: go in this draft? Dave McGinnis, He'll be in the 587 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: second round. He will be in the top third of 588 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: the second round. It's a good looking player, good player, 589 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: and he just he plays consistent. Nice pick Amy. I 590 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: mean that that kid likes to play ball too. All right, 591 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: I got one more for you, coach before we go, 592 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: and that is the post draft scramble for the undrafted. 593 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: And for those of you who have never seen it, 594 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: the four of us have had the chance to see it. 595 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: Coach Mack has obviously lived it. The other three have 596 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: witnessed it. You have people running throughout your building with phones, 597 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: going into different rooms doing recruiting, talking to players, talking 598 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: to agents, trying to gather this class together. It would 599 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: seem like the undrafteds are even more important in this 600 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: draft because you're not gonna know as much about your 601 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: back end guys, the guys with questions, big questions, probably 602 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: aren't going to get drafted. You may be able to 603 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: get a better player in the undrafteds than you can 604 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: on Day three. That being said, how are they gonna 605 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: handle this? How are teams gonna handle this without everybody 606 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: together in the same building. Let me give you a 607 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: little landside on the what goes on most of all, 608 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: you start to you start to put this group together early, 609 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: and you lean on your area scouts hard. And what 610 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: you do is you assign an area scout with a 611 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: position to the position coach, and so you're the secondary coach. 612 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm the area scout. I'm assigned to all the free 613 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: agent dbs. I've got all their numbers, I've got their agents, 614 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: I've got everything. And then I come to you this 615 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: is prior to the draft, saying, look, if this is this, 616 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: is this is this, and you categorize them ABC or D. 617 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: You categorize them for those four categories for three reasons. 618 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: The first is for want. The second time, the reason 619 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: you do is for the money you're going to spend, 620 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: because you've got a finite amount of money that you 621 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: can spend on these free agents. Each club has the 622 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: same finite amount of money. So if you go out 623 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: and you give twenty thousand dollars to one, well, then 624 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: that means you're not going to be able to give 625 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: as much to another one. So once this starts and 626 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: once you get around that sixth round. How good a 627 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: job your assistant coaches and your area scouts have done 628 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: prior to the draft of staying in touch with these guys, 629 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: and you never call them and say, hey, look, when 630 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: you're not drafted. You don't ever say that. What you 631 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: do say is, look, we really like you as a player. 632 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: Good luck in the draft. God bless you. You know, 633 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: if it comes up and we have a chance, maybe 634 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: something will work out. If not, and just say you're 635 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: not drafted, we'd love to get a chance to be 636 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: able to talk to you because you would be a 637 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: great fit for what we're doing here. You go through 638 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: who all you have on your roster, everything at that position. 639 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: You'll try to involve the position coach. Sometimes if it's 640 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: a real high priority free agent. Look, this thing is. 641 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: This thing is organized chaos. It really really is. It's 642 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: a lot like the floor of the stock exchange. Right, 643 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: some guys over here saying I got so and so 644 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: how much did you give him ten grand? Okay, we've 645 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: got this much less. Look I've already offered him ten. 646 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: You can't right out of money take that away. It's 647 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: it's a pretty amazing process. I loved it. It's the 648 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: wild West. Is exactly the wild West, and it's really 649 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the wild West with everybody not in this, 650 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, with people not able to run down the 651 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: hall and say, guy says he'll take two grand more, 652 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: he'll come if we'll give him two grand more. And 653 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: you know whoever says, yeah, we'll sign off on that. Now, 654 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: who do you call? You hit it? This is going 655 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: to be interesting, you know, just to knowe if cel Rocado, 656 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: who I really love, God bless THEO, talk to me 657 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: more about scouting than I could ever Ever, I can 658 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: never pay CEO back for what he did for me. 659 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: When he was going after free agents. CEO had no boundaries. 660 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: CEO would offer guys so much money and come in, 661 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: I got him. How much you offer him twelve? Ceo, 662 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: we don't have that much. Now we'll figure it out. 663 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: So he would just go. CEO had no boundaries. You 664 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: finally had to say CEO, and it couldn't be anybody. 665 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: Couldn't be anybody but Floyd or Jeff Fisher. Finally have CEO, 666 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: you're done free agents. You know what he did with 667 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: Brad Castle, Remember that what he did with Brad Castle. 668 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: Tell the story. I mean Brad Castle from North Texas 669 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: that played for you know, played for me. I love 670 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: Brad Castle. One of the toughest dudes I've ever coached 671 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: in my life. Just real country, tough, all right. Love 672 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: the dude. Okay, but you know, we were trying to 673 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: get him. And I mean, and Brad Castle couldn't run 674 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: out of sight in a day. I mean, you know, 675 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: he couldn't. But he made a lot of tackles at 676 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: North Texas. CEO loved it. Texas kid, tough kid, and 677 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: so CEO We're trying to get him. And some said, 678 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: well what did he run? Don't worry about what he ran? Well, well, 679 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, and so Floyd's trying to help see go 680 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: out and and enhance Brad Castle's profile. I said, well 681 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: does he long snap? Yeah, he's a good long snapper. 682 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: All right. We signed him as a free agent, bring 683 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: him in about the second day out of liar said Brad, 684 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: come on that here snap and Castle goes, why he said, nap, 685 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: didn't you? He said, never snapped in my life. He said, 686 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: did you snap in high school? No? Hell no? So see, Okada, 687 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: he was a quarterback at high school. He did's what 688 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: he's seeing. Because I was a quarterback at high school. 689 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: I didn't long snap, you know what. He was a 690 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: good player. Oh so is right, I'll Brad Bradcastle is well, 691 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: he's in my top ten just just because he's Bradcastle. 692 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. But Broadcastle had a an 693 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: interception in the season finality against the Lions, I guess 694 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand food and nineteen tackles. And so we're 695 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: reviewing the film, thanks Jim, what another coach mac story? 696 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: And so we're reviewing the film with Jim Schwartz. At 697 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: the end of the season. All right, we finished on 698 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: a high note. We really finished pretty strong. That team 699 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: wasn't very good that year. Yeah, it cost ourselves the 700 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: number two pick in the draft by winning that last game. 701 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: Ended up with pac Man Jones. Yeah, that's really it 702 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: was really great. Thanks for winning that, coach, Well, that's 703 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: another story. Anyway, we're watching the film as a defense, 704 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, with with Jim Schwartz, and we're watching and 705 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 1: watching and watching, and of course I've already graded Castle's 706 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: film night before and I take it in. I said, Schwartzen, 707 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe the game Castle head the nineteen tackles. 708 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean everyone documented, so we're watching it, watching it, 709 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: and so the players when we were watching the tape 710 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: the last day in there as a defensive team, they 711 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: start cheering for Castle every tackle that he makes. And 712 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: Keith Bullock was a huge Castle fan. And so at 713 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: the end of the meeting, everybody jumps up and starts cheering. 714 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: They carry Brad Castle on their shoulders out of the 715 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: defensive meeting room. Amy, I wish you could have known Bradcastle. 716 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: There has never been another Titan quite like him. I 717 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: would say. For what Jim Washburn was as a coach, 718 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 1: and I love Jim Washburn, Bradcastle was as a player. 719 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: Two old school outlaws. Oh a nice analogy that coach, Michael. 720 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: You probably got some insight, more insight on how Brad 721 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: Castle towards Achilles. I think it a barbecue on the 722 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: fourth of July. He was down there with all those 723 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: other Yahoo's that he grew up with. It was the 724 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: fourth of July. It was on a homemade sement picnic bench, 725 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 1: so you can imagine what that was, okay, And after 726 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: about seventy eight beers, he said, on the edge of 727 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 1: that thing, okay, and it tipped and the whole cement 728 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: block of the seat came down and severed as a 729 00:42:53,480 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: killings okay. Oh, it was a family nick with quotation 730 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: marks around family. He came into training camp and tried 731 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: to hide the Achilles for about three days. I was 732 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: doing my individual drills, I said, Castle, have you worked 733 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: out one inch this summer? I said, what is wrong 734 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: with you? Because he wasn't the fastest dude anyway, but 735 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: I mean he was slower than smoke off snow going 736 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: through those drills. I mean it was amazing. And so finally, 737 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, we got him in there to Brad Brown 738 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: and they looked at him, Oh my oh man. When 739 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: he went in to talk to Jeff Fisher, it was amazing. 740 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: But he played with that, did he? Oh he tried, Mike, 741 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: he had he had to get it fixed. He tried 742 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: early on. But it was I know exactly the story. 743 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: I lived it. Yes, And you didn't even ask about 744 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: the story about him getting a fight one night on 745 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: the caravan either. That's another whole first story. That's yeah, 746 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: I didn't. They didn't tell me about that for a year. 747 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 1: They hid that from me for a year. He went 748 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: to an establishment and uh, I mean these were you know, 749 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: this a long time ago before before these where you 750 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: could have the you know, you could take a lot 751 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: of pictures. Oh man, what was Bradcastle's running mate name 752 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: that we brought in Cody? What was Cody's Cody Spencer? 753 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: He was another one too, well, the Wrench. We brought 754 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: the Wrench in with him and they had been running mates. 755 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: Brad Castle was was the Cody Spencer's the Wrench's mentor 756 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: at North Texas. They knew the North Texas Police Department 757 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: and Bail my first name. Let me tell you something. 758 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,959 Speaker 1: This is why you listen to the Official Titans podcast, 759 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. This is why right here, 760 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: if you listen to nothing else, the Bradcastle stories are 761 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: worth it. And Jim Wyatt, thanks for egging it on. 762 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: I need to see coach Mark and a robe smoking 763 00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: a pipe in that. Oh hello, Jim Watt at Tennessee 764 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: Titans dot Com. Great stories and features. How do people 765 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: follow you on the social media at Jay Wyatt Sports 766 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned our website now Tennessee Titans dot Com, 767 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: Amby Wells, how do they follow you on the social 768 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: media at Titans Amy Amie coach back. We're getting ready 769 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: for big work on Titans Radio. We're gonna do the 770 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: entire first round on Thursday night. Our coverage begins at 771 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: seventh Central on Titans radio stations, and the entire second 772 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 1: and third round on Friday night. Our coverage starts at 773 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: six o'clock Central time. Are you ready? I'm so excited 774 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: about this. I'm so excited about this. I'm just sad 775 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: when we turn this off and I can't see y'all anymore. Well, 776 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: I know it's been It's been so great to be 777 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 1: with you guys again. And thank you for the Bradcastle stories. 778 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I would love to have Bradcastle on an 779 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: edition of the OTP. I don't know that we could 780 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: air it, but I would tape it. Do you have 781 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: any Matt Castle stories by I think Matt Matt Castle 782 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: another great guy. But I'd say those stories are pretty tame. 783 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,479 Speaker 1: Those stories are diametrically different. Yes, I would say they're 784 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: very They're very different. They would involve Chuck E. Cheese 785 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: and his children and his wife, lots of happy things. 786 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,959 Speaker 1: He's a good guy though, funny guy too, all right, 787 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: So for Coach Dave McGinnis, for Jim Wife, for Amy Wells, 788 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 1: for Brad Castle, my kids, thanks for being with us. 789 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 1: For the Official Titans Podcast presented by Farm Bureau Health 790 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: Plans better note as the O T