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Speaker 2: Well, maybe the series has your attention again. Surprise, surprise,

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Speaker 2: the Pacers win it and now up two games to one.

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Speaker 2: Game four will be Friday, back in Indiana, Age seven

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Speaker 2: to seven to three. DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com,

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Speaker 2: Twitter handle a DPS show. During the regular season, the Thunder,

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Speaker 2: we're sixty one and two when taking a lead into

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. They've already lost as many games during

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Speaker 2: the regular season with that stat. They're one and two

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Speaker 2: when taking a lead into the fourth quarter of this series.

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Speaker 2: And this might come down to conditioning, because if you

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Speaker 2: watch Indiana in the fourth quarter, they've been great in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and it's almost like they use the

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Speaker 2: first three quarters to just hold on and make sure

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Speaker 2: they don't get too far behind, or maybe they happen

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Speaker 2: to have, you know, a lead at some point. But

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City taking a lead into the four fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: and you can see a different energy level, certainly with

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Speaker 2: the Pacers, and that was evident last night. By the way,

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Speaker 2: if you follow these trends of the previous forty one

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals that were tied at one game apiece, the

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Speaker 2: game three winner went on to win.

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Speaker 3: What percentage of the time tied to a game.

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Speaker 2: Apiece the team that won Game three went on to

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Speaker 2: win the title blank percentage of the time Todd.

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Speaker 4: Sixty nine percent of the time, Seaton six.

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Speaker 2: Marvin eighty one, Paul seventy four, eighty percent of the time.

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Speaker 5: Stat of the Day, SAT of the Day, Top post,

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Speaker 5: stat of the day, stat of the day.

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Speaker 3: It comes down what stat of the day? Stop stat

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Speaker 3: of the Day.

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Speaker 2: Brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards

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Speaker 2: of the Dan Patrick Show. Mike Green was on the

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Speaker 2: call for ESPN ABC last night. He'll join us in

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Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes from now. Here's Tyrese Halliburton on the

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Speaker 2: critics after the previous game.

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Speaker 4: The commentary is always going to be what it is.

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Speaker 4: You know, most of the time, the talking heads on

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Speaker 4: the major platforms, I couldn't care less, honestly, like, what

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Speaker 4: do they really know about basketball? The commentary is what

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Speaker 4: it is. At this point, you know, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're here in the NBA Finals, two wins

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Speaker 4: away from an NBA championship, So you just got to

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Speaker 4: stay with it, put my head down, keep working and

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Speaker 4: as a group We just got to keep learning from

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Speaker 4: our mistakes, see where we can get better and take

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Speaker 4: it a day a time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he nearly had a triple double. They were more aggressive.

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Speaker 2: You got a great performance from Benedict Mathern.

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Speaker 3: He had twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Now he's the first player to come off the bench

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Speaker 2: and lead both teams in scoring in an NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: game since.

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Speaker 3: Marvin.

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Speaker 2: What's the year I might give it away? Give it away,

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Speaker 2: Give it away now? Twenty eleven, Anthony Keatis, Jason Terry, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jason Terry, bloop blop. The commentary is always gonna thank you.

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Speaker 6: It's funny when they like athletes lump in, like wow,

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Speaker 6: the people saying all that stuff don't know what they're

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Speaker 6: talking about, and like probably fifty to seventy five percent

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Speaker 6: what they're talking about anyway. So I don't really listen

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Speaker 6: to that noise because it's just you know, a bunch

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Speaker 6: of talking heads. It's like Shack saying, yeah, Markley, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, big perk. He didn't know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 3: There no what he's talking about. So I don't even

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Speaker 2: Perk uh So, Yeah, the NBA Finals going on, the

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Speaker 2: Knicks are still looking for a head coach. Here's Charles

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Speaker 2: Barkley on NBA TV pregame show.

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Speaker 7: The Knicks got to be the stupidest damn people in

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Speaker 7: the world who's fight. You don't find no good coach

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Speaker 7: like that and don't have a I mean, tipsid a

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Speaker 7: hell of a job. Obviously sum's going on now, but

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Speaker 7: you don't have a plan, and now the three coaches

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Speaker 7: I don't know what the hell they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Well, Okay, it looks bad now, the optics, as they

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Speaker 2: like to say, looks bad. But when do you need

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Speaker 2: a head coach? You'd like to have it right away

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Speaker 2: if you're going to fire TIBs and go yes, this

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Speaker 2: is why we fired him, because we brought in Michael

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Speaker 2: Malone or whoever it is, or we're bringing in Jason Kidd.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not bringing in Phil Jackson here, and

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Speaker 2: that didn't even work out when you brought in Phil Jackson. Remember,

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Speaker 2: Steve Kerr turned down the job, and I thought, gosh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you get back to retreads, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna bring candidates here, but at what point you go,

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Speaker 2: we have to have a coach in place. It's like

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers. My gut feeling all along

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Speaker 2: was they had an agreement and he would come in.

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Speaker 2: He would come in when he's ready. The coach knew

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Speaker 3: This is different. You fire that guy.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't wait to fire that guy, and it felt

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Speaker 3: But you're going to have the draft.

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Speaker 2: Do you need to have a coach if you're going

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Speaker 2: to be trying to pull off for trade, you know,

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Speaker 2: for Yannis, do you need to have a coach as

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: If that coach is Jason Kidd, then yes, you need

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Speaker 2: with him. But other than that, the timeframe doesn't look good.

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Speaker 2: And maybe the NBA has said to the Knicks this

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Speaker 2: has happened before with a previous commissioner, don't do anything

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Speaker 2: to upstage the NBA finals. Wait normally to fire hire

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Speaker 2: somebody or hire somebody. But I can go back to

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Speaker 2: one specific moment where the commissioner wasn't pleased because he

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Speaker 2: from the NBA Finals. I don't know if that's the case,

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Speaker 2: but trying to find a coach for the Knicks and

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Speaker 2: seems like it's a little more of a struggle than

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Speaker 2: we thought it was going to be. And all the

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Speaker 2: good will you build up, this is exciting, it's fun.

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Speaker 2: New York's alive. We got to the Eastern Conference finals. Well,

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Speaker 2: you got to the Eastern Conference Finals because luck. Luck

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Speaker 2: played a big role in guys getting injured. The two

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Speaker 2: best teams weren't fully assembled. Now, granted, you play whoever's

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Speaker 2: reality of this, how good is that team? They're not

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Speaker 2: better than the Cabs. They're not better than the Celtics

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Speaker 2: look a whole lot different this next season. Cleveland's probably

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Speaker 2: gonna be there as well. Because you're not better than

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Speaker 2: the Pacers as much as you, in your mind, were

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Speaker 2: know if OKC is better than the Pacers. Indiana has

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Speaker 2: played great basketball. Yeah, seton.

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Speaker 6: Just because a team isn't laying out their plans for

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Speaker 3: I get that.

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Speaker 6: The uh when there's sort of a vacuum of information,

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Speaker 6: But I don't know that I've ever seen a team

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Speaker 3: You all for being here.

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Speaker 6: Now that we fire the coach, here's our three step

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Speaker 3: First, we're gonna try to hire this guy if that

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Speaker 3: guy doesn't work. No, I don't know that I've ever

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what our plan is now that we've made

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Speaker 6: this surprising move.

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Speaker 2: I would have liked to have had the Knicks somebody

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Speaker 2: get in front of a microphone and explain what happened.

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Speaker 3: Correct you fired Tom Thibodeaux.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to have somebody who had the wherewith all

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Speaker 2: the guts, the confidence, whatever, just tell the media, Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is why we moved on because as a Knicks fan,

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Speaker 2: aren't you owed that?

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Speaker 3: Like, wait a minute, what happened here?

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Speaker 2: And everybody's got an opinion about Tom Thibodeau and all

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Speaker 2: he works his players too hard, and everybody says the

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Speaker 2: same thing. But you gave him an extension last July,

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Speaker 2: almost a year ago. You gave him an extension. Was

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Speaker 2: he the same coach back then as he was this year?

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Speaker 2: And the answers, yes, the guy who was his agent

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Speaker 2: gave him that contract extension. That's what's baffling. You gave

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Speaker 2: probably knew before the playoffs started you were going to fire.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden they started winning, and

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Speaker 2: then Tatum goes out.

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Speaker 3: The Cavaliers are banged up.

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Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you're in the Eastern Conference

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Speaker 3: Do we have to keep them?

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Speaker 2: What are the candidates? Do we have the odds on

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Speaker 2: who's the next head coach of the Knicks?

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Speaker 3: Bawling?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the day after they fired Tibbs Fibbs, it was

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Speaker 8: Michael Malone was the favorite overwhelmingly. Currently, they have a

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Speaker 8: bunch of different people, but basically it's Jason Kidd in

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Speaker 8: the field. That's the DraftKings odds as of this morning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's take Jason Kidd out of this because that

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Speaker 2: hinges on the Mavericks giving permission. If there are any

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Speaker 2: Mike Woodson's name surfaced. If you're bringing back Mike Woodson,

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Speaker 2: is that a plan because it feels like, okay, here's

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Speaker 2: plan A. We might be going down the alphabet here

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Speaker 2: with the New York Nicks. Are there any other CA

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: They have the assistant coach from the Cavs, Johnny Johnny Bryant. Yes,

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Speaker 8: and otherwise they don't have any other people because they

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Speaker 8: took off Jay Wright, they took off Danny Hurley.

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Speaker 3: Well, Hurley and Wright. We're never going to do this.

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Speaker 3: It's wishful thinking. Hey, Danny Hurley grew up a Knicks fan.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I think I'm pretty sure the Knicks were on

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Speaker 6: his short list of teams that he would coach. Yes,

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Speaker 6: he did say if he's going to do anywhere, it's

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Speaker 6: going to be like Boston New York. It was going

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Speaker 6: to be in the Tri state area, close to New Jersey.

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Speaker 6: The Knicks are very much are probably number one on

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Speaker 6: that list of teams he would coach.

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Speaker 2: But then he did say, oh, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: He's not ready to do that.

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Speaker 2: On a nightly basis with his personality, his temperament. He

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Speaker 2: might lose five or seven games in a season and

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Speaker 2: have a hard time with that. You go to New York,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna lose thirty five games.

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Speaker 3: He might not be ready for it, But that doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean that he wouldn't take at least his wife.

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Speaker 2: They would be able to sort of stay in this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Jay Wright, Jay Wright Scott. Have you seen

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Speaker 3: Jay Wright?

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Speaker 9: He looks great.

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Speaker 3: It looks like a million bucks. It seems relaxed. Yes, yes, Jay.

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Speaker 8: Well, but if he joined the next he could look

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Speaker 2: Uh no, he's gonna get paid thirty million bucks. He

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Speaker 8: Can you image replacing Tibbs with Danny Hurley because Tibbs

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Speaker 8: is too intense. That's the opposite of the narrative.

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Speaker 2: Why don't think Tibbs was too intense as much as

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Speaker 2: That's our streaming partner. We stumbled upon a storyline comparison

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Speaker 2: something because these NBA finals lack star power. Let's be

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Speaker 2: Gabriel Byrne, Kevin Spacey, great actors, one of the Baldwin Brothers,

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Speaker 2: Benisio del Thoro. So you didn't have those Oh who

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Speaker 2: get those two mixed up. That's not a good sign

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Speaker 2: when it comes to star power. If you go smarter,

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Speaker 3: I'm smarter than you. I'm smarter than you.

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's one of those movies where it's awesome the

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Speaker 3: And he's walking down the street, pulls up the Jaguar.

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Speaker 5: You go, oh my god, guys, it's so well done.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, guys, del Toro, with the accent he does, you

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Speaker 6: Any mister McManus, Joe and Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Hi Joe, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Guys?

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Speaker 10: First time caller, six foot three two and thirty pounds.

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Speaker 10: I got I got two movies to add to the list.

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Speaker 10: But first, if you guys will let me divulge, can

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Speaker 10: I give you, guys a crazy stat that will probably

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Speaker 10: were talking about Andrew mccutchey, and I heard the game.

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Speaker 10: He's not Hall of he's Hall of Fame. First off, Now,

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Speaker 10: all of very good, but also Paul Skimes, all right,

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Speaker 10: ninety two strikeouts this year one point eight era. His

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Speaker 10: record is four and six. Did you know that he's

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Speaker 10: the only player in MLB history to have a sub

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Speaker 10: two point ohra So thirteen starts with ninety plus strikeouts

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Speaker 10: and have a losing record. The Pirates, they got to

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Speaker 10: do something with Paul skiings to the generational talent, and

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Speaker 10: it's just going to waste the way in Pittsburgh, unfortunately.

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Speaker 10: I hate to say that. But two movies here that

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Speaker 10: to the list. First and foremost, how about Rocky?

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Speaker 3: We mentioned Rocky? Oh okay, yeah, Fritz did.

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Speaker 10: How about the Okay? And then how about The Hangover?

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Speaker 10: Great comedy, A lot of people consider it one of

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Speaker 10: the best comedies. No one really knew Bradley Cooper at that.

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Speaker 2: Time, So, okay, I don't know what other movies Bradley

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Speaker 8: He did Wedding Crashers where he crushed it as Sack Lootge.

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Speaker 2: But he wasn't a big star, No, he was just

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Speaker 2: really good in that role. Ken Jong was not a

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Speaker 2: star ed Helms see the Office.

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Speaker 11: He was also, Hey, he's that guy in that show.

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Speaker 2: Zach Alifanakis's he Noah, Yeah, that was good movie. The

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Speaker 2: other ones, these subsequent ones were you know when you

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Speaker 2: don't know how this how do we end this thing?

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Speaker 3: Like we where are we going?

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We just bring Mike Tyson back in at the end

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Speaker 3: of the movie.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Marvin, the Hangover is the best movie theater experience

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Speaker 11: I've ever had in my life. I saw it Friday

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Speaker 11: opening weekend. Really, the place was packed in the laughs,

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, more on this best movie without a

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Speaker 2: Finals for the mother Ships with Doris Burke. Also Richard Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: It's the thun in the pacers and somehow he has

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Speaker 2: the energy to speak to us today, and I'm curious

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Speaker 3: How tired are you after a game like last night?

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Speaker 14: Well, especially with a game like last night, you're tired

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Speaker 14: because it's a long day in terms of preparation, but

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Speaker 14: you can't go to sleep for hours. It's just you're

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Speaker 14: so wound up. Especially when you see a game that good.

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Speaker 14: You want to talk about it. You want to talk

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Speaker 14: but when you do, you're out. I probably would have

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Speaker 9: Dan.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever had the Wednslafe time you had the

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Speaker 14: but there's often like I couldn't hear the whistle last night.

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Speaker 14: A few times couldn't hear the whistle And okay, see

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Speaker 14: a lot of those buildings, it's so loud, and that's

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Speaker 14: couple of times that I just couldn't hear the whistle.

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Speaker 2: How often do you have sort of a premonition of

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Speaker 14: Well, every single night, and I think every broadcast team

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Speaker 9: Who you got tonight.

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Speaker 14: Who you think, And I'll have stretches where I might

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Speaker 14: they're going to win big tonight. It's going to be

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Speaker 14: a close one, but they're not going to be able

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Speaker 3: Right, what was your prediction for this or last night?

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Speaker 9: You know, it's funny, it's funny to say that.

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Speaker 14: So I really felt Indiana had a shot in Game one,

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Speaker 14: I and anybody I spoke to when they asked me

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Speaker 14: what I think, I said, I have no idea. Indiana

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Speaker 14: They have stretches where it's which a struggle. So I

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Speaker 2: And Brian Windhors brought this up on ESPN this morning

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Speaker 2: don't know if you got that sense, or Doris or

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Speaker 2: Richard got that sense of fourth quarter. Indiana has been

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Speaker 2: the better team in these first three games, no question.

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Speaker 14: just have never seen both these teams, that they have

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Speaker 14: thrived on wearing you down. For Indiana, in many cases

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Speaker 14: they wear you down. And obviously Oklahoma City, their defense

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Speaker 14: But that's the first time I've seen the Thunder look

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Speaker 14: and I've never seen that from them.

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Speaker 2: But also, if I look at okc's Big three, their

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Speaker 2: the big three for Indiana, their average age might be

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. I know it's four years, but four years

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Speaker 2: OKC getting over that hump, yes you're ready, feels like

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Speaker 2: this is a graduation of we lost second round, we

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals. We've seen great teams who graduate to this moment.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder the maturity of we're asking twenty three

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Speaker 2: greats of the game did when they were maybe twenty

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Speaker 2: seven to twenty eight.

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Speaker 14: Man, I could not agree more. You know, the whole

440
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Speaker 14: question for them coming in are they ready? Are they

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Speaker 14: too young? Is this their time? And they have to

442
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Speaker 14: prove that and certainly they've proved it so far, and

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Speaker 14: even in the Denver series, I mean, this series is

444
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Speaker 14: far from over. The Denver series, they lose that Harper

445
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Speaker 14: Game one, win big Game two, and then they lost

446
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Speaker 14: in Game three as well, and then they had a

447
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Speaker 14: couple of really close games that were going to be

448
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Speaker 14: tested against a Nikola Jokic team, and they passed those tests.

449
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Speaker 14: So now Game four is going to be the next

450
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Speaker 14: test and we'll see how they do. But there's an

451
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Speaker 14: enormous difference in that in terms of twenty three and

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Speaker 14: twenty seven. And even though last year Indiana they they

453
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Speaker 14: got swept in the Eastern Conference finals that I know

454
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Speaker 14: this sounds ridiculous, but that was a close sweep. Three

455
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 14: of the games went right down to the final minute.

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Speaker 14: They played well. They gained valuable experience. Last year in

457
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Speaker 14: that Knick series, they were down two to oh, they

458
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Speaker 14: were down three to two, won a game seven going away.

459
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Speaker 14: I know the Knicks were a little banged up, but

460
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Speaker 14: the Pacers have really grown in terms of playoff pressure.

461
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Speaker 14: They've seen every possible scenario and they've seen it together.

462
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Speaker 14: Continuity is the most underrated part of basketball. To have

463
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Speaker 14: the same guys who know their strengths and weaknesses, who've

464
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Speaker 14: been through the wars together, and that's what's showing right now.

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Speaker 14: Indiana they have a little bit more of that than

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Speaker 14: Oklahoma City does.

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Speaker 3: He's Mike Breen.

468
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Speaker 2: He's the play by play host of the NBA Finals

469
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Speaker 2: for the twentieth year Hall of Fame broadcaster. If we

470
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Speaker 2: had a shooting contest between you, Richard Jefferson, and doors Burke,

471
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Speaker 2: who's winning.

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Speaker 14: It depends are we shooting free throws? Are we shooting

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Speaker 14: three pointers? Are we shooting you know? It all depends

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Speaker 14: on the range.

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Speaker 3: How about mid range mid range game? You know, like

476
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Speaker 3: SGA range mid range game.

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Speaker 9: I'll stack my game up with both of them.

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Speaker 14: I've actually challenged Richard to a free throw shooting contest

479
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Speaker 14: and he says he.

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Speaker 9: Wants to do it, but he's never really be.

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Speaker 14: Any idea in terms of trying to set a particular

482
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Speaker 14: day first to do it.

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Speaker 9: I think he's afraid of me, quite honestly.

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Speaker 2: Well, he has everything to lose, Mike, Yes he does. Yes, Yes,

485
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: yes he does. Your full time job is the Knicks broadcaster.

486
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Speaker 2: Can you tell me what the Knicks are doing with

487
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Speaker 2: their head CoA coaching search.

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Speaker 14: Well, they're obviously turning over every stone right now, and

489
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Speaker 14: that's you know, there's a lot of good candidates still

490
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Speaker 14: out there. It's been interesting to see how many teams

491
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Speaker 14: have quickly said, no, you cannot talk to our coach.

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Speaker 14: Although that's understandable, all under contract and at this point,

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Speaker 14: I think Dan, they can take their time. It's not

494
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Speaker 14: like I mean, there's a lot of stup coaches out there.

495
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Speaker 14: I think they can talk to but there's no need

496
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Speaker 14: to rush it now. They really need to do their homework,

497
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Speaker 14: talk to people, talk not only to the candidates, but

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Speaker 14: people who play for the candidates, and do an exhaustive

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Speaker 14: search because there's no need to rush it now.

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Speaker 9: It's such an important decision.

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Speaker 3: If you fire your coach. Did you have a successful season?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 14: That's an interesting way to put it. I think so

504
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Speaker 14: I do. I think they had a very successful season.

505
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Speaker 14: They've taken the next step. I was certainly surprised at

506
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Speaker 14: Tom Thibodaux being let go from a standpoint of success

507
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Speaker 14: and results. It's hard to say why, but clearly there

508
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Speaker 14: was stuff behind the scenes that were going on that

509
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Speaker 14: they felt it was time to make a change. But yes,

510
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Speaker 14: it was a very successful season in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you get criticized that you didn't give Tyre's Halliburton

512
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Speaker 2: a bang because it was a mid range jumper or

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Speaker 2: one of three? I should say, like, is that your

514
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Speaker 2: policy that it's got to be a three for a bang?

515
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Speaker 9: Well, I haven't checked the rules and regulations and the policy.

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Speaker 14: I think the warranty on the policy is out, but

517
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 14: there's really no Sometimes it's a feel. In many cases

518
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Speaker 14: it's I preferred on a three pointer on this particular play,

519
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 14: he was moving so quickly. Also sometimes too, I like

520
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Speaker 14: doing it on a home team big bucket.

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Speaker 9: Because the crowd overtakes it.

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Speaker 14: That's one of the reasons I started yelling Bank because

523
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 14: I needed a concise call when the crowd overwhelms everything.

524
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Speaker 14: But that was just more of you know, this is

525
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 14: an unbelievable finish. He has a chance to win, and

526
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 14: that's the way it came out. But yes, I received criticism.

527
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 14: I'd been attacked, but it's all part.

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Speaker 3: Have you ranked your bang calls?

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Speaker 14: Oh damn no, hope you start to ask me that, No,

530
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Speaker 14: I have not ranked, But that's that's for the viewers

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Speaker 14: to rank the Bank calls.

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Speaker 2: I can't do because I would say, Steph Curry, I

533
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Speaker 2: thought that that one. What was that the forty footer

534
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Speaker 2: that he hit it against Okase That I think that

535
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: kind of started it. But I also Ray Allen Game

536
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Speaker 2: six of the twenty thirteen NBA Finals, where does that

537
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Speaker 2: bang me?

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Speaker 14: In this discussion yeah, yeah, No, the Curry thing, I

539
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 14: was the first double bang, and that was that was

540
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 14: it was a special time. It was everything that led

541
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Speaker 14: up to it, and I would agree with that's That's

542
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Speaker 14: one of my favorites. Three Allen one is is clearly

543
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Speaker 14: as well because he doesn't hit that. The changes who

544
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 14: wins the title that year. Playoff ones are special to me.

545
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 14: Derek Rose hit a game winner in Chicago for the

546
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 14: Bulls in a playoff game against Lebron. Jeremy Lynn had

547
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Speaker 14: a couple of great bangs that that that were really

548
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Speaker 14: exciting during two and a half weeks to some of

549
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Speaker 14: the most fun games I've ever been a part of.

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Speaker 14: So there's been there's been a decent amount that I've enjoyed.

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Speaker 3: Will there ever be a triple bang? Mike stop?

552
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Speaker 2: I want John record? Will there be? What would what

553
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: would bring about a triple bang?

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Speaker 14: I think I think I would sound like an idiot

555
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 14: if I did a triple bang. But again, it's not premeditated.

556
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 14: The double bank came out naturally. It just was so exciting.

557
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Speaker 14: So maybe in a five finals game, if a guy

558
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Speaker 14: hits a three pointer at the buzzer to win a

559
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 14: finals game and to win a championship.

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Speaker 9: That's the possibility.

561
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Speaker 2: How about that tyrese Aliburton game on the line and

562
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 2: he hits a three and they win the title.

563
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Speaker 14: I have no choice but to do it then, Okay,

564
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 14: I'm under severe pressure to do it.

565
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 9: Then.

566
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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to watch the finals and pressure.

567
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Speaker 9: You know, now, this is unforgivable what you're doing.

568
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Speaker 3: How does pressure feel, Mike?

569
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Speaker 9: It doesn't feel very good.

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00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Are you going to do?

571
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: You rest your voice today?

572
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 5: I do?

573
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Speaker 3: Like what do you do today?

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Speaker 9: I drink a lot of tea with honey.

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Speaker 14: I actually I don't talk on the phone because I

576
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 14: had an ears, nose and throat. Guy tell me that

577
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 14: when my voice is struggling, don't talk on the phone

578
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 14: because people tend to talk louder on the phone.

579
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Speaker 9: I was not aware of that. Are you aware of that?

580
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 10: Yeah?

581
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: If you've ever been on a plane when somebody lands

582
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: and then they're getting a hold of somebody who's going

583
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: to pick them up, listen to how loud that person is.

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00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, just landed.

585
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Speaker 14: Okay, don't agreement. Hold on a second, I have a call. Okay,

586
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 14: I'll call you later.

587
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: See but whatever, if there's problems with you and your

588
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: wife and you don't get on the phone and you

589
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: want a text. I understand that, I mean, but that's

590
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Speaker 2: that's that's on you, Mike. I don't need to hear that.

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Speaker 9: I can use it. Yeah, I could use it to

592
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 9: my advantage.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm an Ah the voice. I'll text you. I'll

594
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: text you.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again. Thanks for thanks for

596
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Speaker 2: joining us, Mike, Bang bring or bang bang or Bang

597
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: Bang Bang Bring? Next game coming up on Friday night, Indianapolis.

598
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the point sprints. Do we have numbers here? DraftKings?

599
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: Can you send me the point spreads for Friday night?

600
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: Please take a break. Phone calls. More phone calls coming

601
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: up after this.

602
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

603
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

604
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

605
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock, we just showed you a

606
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: portion of an interview with Mike Love, lead singer of

607
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: the Beach Boys. Brian Wilson, the founder of the Beach Boys,

608
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: passed away yesterday and there were so many different books, documentaries,

609
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: articles written on Brian. They all seem to focus on

610
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: him being like this mad genius and probably is an

611
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: apt description of him. I love the fact that he

612
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: put sand underneath his piano in his living room when

613
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: he was writing music for the Beach Boys. He wanted

614
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: that feel of the beach and he put sand underneath

615
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Speaker 2: his piano. But also he came up with pet Sounds,

616
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: and if you are not familiar with the Beach Boys,

617
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: listen to the sound of the of pet Sounds, because

618
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: that helped bring about something new. It changed music because

619
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Speaker 2: it's technically everything about it is, you know, one of

620
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: the top five albums I think of all time in

621
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: rock and roll music. But it also changed the Beatles

622
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: because the Beatles were you know, hold my hand, she

623
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: loves you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then all of a

624
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: sudden it spawned the uh Sergeant Peppers. McCartney realized, oh

625
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: my goodness, we have to we have to change, we

626
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: have to up our game, and that brought about Sergeant

627
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: Peppers and it changed music, changed music history with that album.

628
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: And then you know there The story was that Brian

629
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: went crazy after that because he thought he had created

630
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: the perfect album and realized the Beatles just won uped him.

631
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Speaker 3: Like a year later, It's like, wait a minute, what

632
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: did they do?

633
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Also a lot of tributes to sli in the Family Stone,

634
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: and which is great because they were They were before

635
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: everybody when you look at that style, that sound, whether

636
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: it's Parliament, George Clinton, whether it's Prince, this was sli

637
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: in the Family Stone before them, and just listened to

638
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: like there's organ bass, like there's some real great, great

639
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: sounds with sly and the Family Stone. But you'll see

640
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: a lot of tribute videos and they have to do

641
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: with Prince because Prince acknowledged that he understood what was

642
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: going on and paid tribute to sli in the Family

643
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: Stone with redoing some of their songs, and really that's

644
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: not what Prince did. Prince would write songs and people

645
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: would try to do a cover of Prince song as

646
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: opposed to the other way around. But Slyne the Family

647
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Stone and Brian Wilson, it's just people are put on

648
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: this earth for things, and that's what they were put

649
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: on this earth for. Brian Wilson was put on this

650
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: earth to hear these sounds and put these sounds down

651
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: on an album and the harmonies and he drove you

652
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: know the rest of the Beach Boys crazy where he

653
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: was looking for that perfect harmony. It had to be

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Speaker 2: you know the sound of this, and if you listen

655
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Speaker 2: to Slide the family Stone when he was doing it,

656
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Speaker 2: when they were doing it.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's different. They were different.

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Speaker 6: Yes, there are, you know, like when somebody like that dies,

659
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 6: a lot of tributes come out, and there's like artists

660
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 6: after artists right now who would post about Brian Wilson

661
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 6: saying like he made me do the vocals for this

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Speaker 6: song sixty times because he was hearing something that I

663
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Speaker 6: just wasn't hearing, and like I was doing it as

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Speaker 6: good as I could, but it still wasn't good enough

665
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Speaker 6: for him until finally it was. And then you're like, wow,

666
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 6: he heard that, and that like I can't hear that

667
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Speaker 6: at all, and we do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, to be able to hear something so small,

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Speaker 2: so minute, but so important to that person.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: Clint Eastwood famously doesn't have many takes on his movie set.

672
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: It might be two you go okay, whether and then

673
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 2: there'll be other directors will be like, let's do it again,

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00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: Well that's forty takes. But they're looking for something, they're

675
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: listening for something, and that, you know, that separates a

676
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: lot of people from being You're really good to your genius.

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00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, pull one of the best songs from Pet Sounds.

678
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 8: That song God Only Knows. I'm not gonna try to

679
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 8: sing it, you know it from the end of Boogie Knights.

680
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 8: They do that long montage to end Boogie Knights and

681
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 8: God Only Knows as a song in there, and it's

682
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 8: just perfect for that film.

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00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: Just listen to the harmonies. And there was competition between

684
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: the Beatles and the Beach Boys. Now you wouldn't think it,

685
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: but there there were, because they were pop sounds. You know,

686
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: the Beatles were popping and then all of a sudden,

687
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: I mean that's what separates them from everybody else. That

688
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: if one direction or one of these boy bands all

689
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden did Helter Skelter or Sergeant Pepper Magical

690
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: Mystery Tour. I mean, all of the music that they created,

691
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: it was Yeah, we can be the biggest pop band

692
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: in the world.

693
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: We can also do that, and nobody else can do that.

694
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: But Pet Sounds, it's widely considered one of the top

695
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: five albums of all time rock and roll. Rolling Stone

696
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: usually has it top five, but they varied where I

697
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: think one year they had Marvin Gaye's What's Going On

698
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: as the number one rock and roll album of all time. Now,

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00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: I love Marvin gay but I wouldn't consider that the

700
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: number one album of all time. And then I think

701
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: the Beatles were on there, and maybe one of the

702
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: other ones, but they tend to come out every twenty

703
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: years where they rank the top five hundred songs of

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00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: all time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marv, and I know how you love list.

706
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, well okay. What really set me off is,

707
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: thanks for bringing it up, Marvin. Is when the Mothership

708
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 2: was looking for the greatest college player of all time,

709
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: and that had Michael Jordan is the greatest college basketball

710
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: player of all time, And I go, that's embarrassing. I mean,

711
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: great player. He wasn't the best player on his own team.

712
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: He did hit a shot to win a national title.

713
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: But there Kareem Louel Sendor's greatest college player of all time.

714
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: Christian Latner is ahead of Michael Jordan. And I'm not

715
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: talking talent, I'm talking about resume. Mike was a great talent,

716
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: but he was an unknown talent. But to have Michael

717
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: as the greatest college basketball player of all time, that

718
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: was for clicks. And then that even Michael would tell

719
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 2: you he's not the best college basketball player of all time.

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Speaker 8: Yes, pony, I have that Rolling Stone list from twenty

721
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 8: twenty three, five hundred greatest albums. You want the top

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Speaker 8: ten quickly?

723
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: How many Beatles are in there? Three?

724
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 8: I got a Bob Dylan. I got a Prince checking

725
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 8: my computer's freezing off, of course.

726
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: So Dylan is in there for like a Rolling Stone, Yes, okay, Prince.

727
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 8: The Miseducation of Lauren Hill Lauren Hill ten great album, Fleetwood,

728
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 8: Mac Rumors, Yeah, yeah, Nirvana, never Mind, the Beatles, Abbey Road,

729
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 8: Stevie Wonders, Songs in the Key of Life, No Objections,

730
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 8: Joni Mitchell, Blue the Beach, The Beach Boys, Pet Sounds

731
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Speaker 8: is two, and Marvin Gay's What's going On is number one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, love Marvin Gay, absolutely great. Him and Sam Cook

733
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: two of my favorite artists. Great vocals. All right, Drew

734
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Speaker 2: in California, Hi, Drew, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 15: Good morning, gentlemen, Thanks for taking my call a long time,

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Speaker 15: first time, six one, two twenty. For a great movie

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Speaker 15: with zero stars, my choice is Breaking Away nineteen seventy nine.

738
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Speaker 15: It was low budget and it got nominated for the Academy.

739
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 9: Award for that year.

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00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 15: Starringwall was kind of a nobody Dennis Christopher who didn't

741
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 15: get very big, but it had some young, totally unknown

742
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 15: actors like Dennis Quaid and Daniel Stern, and probably the

743
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 15: biggest star of the at the time was the guy

744
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 15: who played Kelly Leak in The Battens Bears, Jackie Earl Haley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good call.

746
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: There by the way, the thunder favored by six coming

747
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: up on Friday Night fell in Iowa ill.

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Speaker 9: One.

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Speaker 16: My movie selection is going to be Scream. I'm going

750
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Speaker 16: back to the Slashers. You got Drew Barrymore in the

751
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 16: opening scene. You have Nev Campbell and Courtney.

752
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 15: Cox, David Arquette before he was.

753
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 16: Than anything big that I remember, and Matthew Lillard. And

754
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Speaker 16: then on the Brian Wilson subject, the Bare Naked Ladies

755
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 16: did a song called Brian Wilson. They'll probably make you

756
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 16: smile if you haven't heard it.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool, no, thank you. When I was around the

758
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: bar Naked Ladies, they were wonderful guys. They had no

759
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: idea who I was, but they were really wonderful people

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Speaker 2: and just in the moment having a great time. See

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Speaker 2: would you update the poll results up in his second

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Speaker 2: hour of the program.

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Speaker 17: Heck, yeah, let's see who do you have winning the

764
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Speaker 17: finals right now? The NBA Finals, to be more precise,

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Speaker 17: of two options, the pacers in the thunder that is ats.

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Speaker 3: What is it with that recency buys? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: it should be higher.

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Speaker 6: The recent you do, the bias should be higher, And.

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Speaker 3: That seems kind of crazy to me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, the fact that Fritzy's now taking the pacers,

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Speaker 2: you would think that that would have some people be

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Speaker 2: a little leery.

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Speaker 3: Pacers and seven Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: can't change, Todd. You made a prediction thunder and sixth.

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Speaker 4: Now I feel like it's pacers and seven.

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Speaker 9: Biers.

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Speaker 5: God only knows how I feel.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to do that.

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Speaker 10: For a while.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, God, only.

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Speaker 2: Two hours in the books. One more to go, Todd, Marvin, Paulie, Satan, yours.

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Speaker 2: Truly we're back after this