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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Now your host, Shannon Gross. Welcome to Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Cross Talk live from Cowboys Club where it's raining inside outside,

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Speaker 1: but it's nothing but sunshine inside. We have a very

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Speaker 1: To my right, a guy that's usually in the host chair.

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Speaker 1: I hope if you're gonna be okay? Not? I love

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Speaker 1: being all right? Second, third, fourth fiddle, It's great, all right?

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Speaker 1: it going tonight? Ari? I'm great? How are you? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Man pumped like I am super excited about this show tonight.

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Speaker 1: One because you're here, Thank you too. Because of the

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Speaker 1: guy that you're right, of course, my partner in crime

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Speaker 1: on hanging with the Boys on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Now you're doing tonight name man, I'm super excited.

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Speaker 1: But this is the guess I've been waiting on. Man,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy that took my place in the

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Speaker 1: locker room. Yes, yes, sir, let's get right to it.

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Speaker 1: If you if you don't know about this guy, yes,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned in because this is one of the most energetic, entertaining,

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Speaker 1: contagious people eating in the world. You look like a

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Speaker 1: big sexy cartoon character now with that bear in that beard.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Joe Ludo. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with all these compliments,

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Speaker 1: but second pressure going yeah, the cross just this just

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Speaker 1: this one app going on here right now. That's a

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Speaker 1: that's a retirement stomach for man, Joe. You know, congratulations

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Speaker 1: on retirement. Let's start the show there, like, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: how did you get there? What made you decide to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I just want to enjoy life? Like what? What? What

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Speaker 1: was that process? Like? Right? So? You know I had

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I had a wonderful young lady

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Speaker 1: Kendra many, thank you so much. I just I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: What you know, I'm now coaching his flag football team.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing. You know, I got five year

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Speaker 1: up like your Hall of Fame, you know, pro athletes.

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Speaker 1: But you know I got to see my skun. My son,

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Speaker 1: it the way I want to, like a UFC fighter,

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh and anyway, So what's next for Joe? Are

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Speaker 1: locker room with the players and you know, be that

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Speaker 1: authority figure at the same time. So I definitely, I

422
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Speaker 1: definitely think he could. He could do it if he

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Speaker 1: wants to your thing, because I would be critical. He'll

424
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Speaker 1: tell you I should be so critical and kill him.

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Speaker 1: And and uh, he's grown. He's grown, He understands he

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Speaker 1: and and and I say, give him another year. Don't

427
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Speaker 1: not this year, but give him another year because I

428
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Speaker 1: promise you to to talk to the quarterbacks and to

429
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: the offense, that's one thing. But to contry to control

430
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Speaker 1: it that other side and what they thinking, that's another thing.

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Speaker 1: Organizational skills, he let it. Give him another Let him

432
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Speaker 1: see a little bit more, because when you gotta deal

433
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Speaker 1: with a with niney of them and cut down and

434
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Speaker 1: fifty of them, it's a whole different house. Man. Let

435
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Speaker 1: me ask you something because something I remember talking to

436
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Speaker 1: Killing a couple of years ago, and it's like, so,

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Speaker 1: how do you you know, where are you influenced by?

438
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Speaker 1: Who are your influences? And he mentioned like he watches

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Speaker 1: football and he sees a player that he likes and

440
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: he like, we'll bring it to the table and stuff

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Speaker 1: like was that something you guys did, like were you

442
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Speaker 1: were off at the quarter and be like you know

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Speaker 1: orth turn would be like yeah, from the Orc TV.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna run it next week. What we do

445
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Speaker 1: as players and what coaches do is they'll see where

446
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: a team destroyed you with a one player two plays

447
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: the week before. Now the smart coaches And I think

448
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: Keller is likeness. I think coach Read is likeness. And

449
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: I knew Northa and now I'll do I had a

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Speaker 1: personnel to run this play. That's that's that's what Kellvin

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Speaker 1: is accent itself. Now before he was just drawing. He

452
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: had a thousand pieces of paper, you know, drawing. But

453
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Speaker 1: now he's like, oh I got cde lamb oh, I

454
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: got him Mark Zeke can do this, Tony can do that,

455
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: and my offensive line can do it all this week.

456
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Speaker 1: This past week, I forgot to bring it up. This

457
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: past week they got back to the pulling loom. But

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Speaker 1: that's one thing I hated that we didn't do last

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Speaker 1: year and the year before we got away from the pulling.

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00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Y'all was too athletic not to take advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: They got back to the pulling this week. Yeah, they

462
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Speaker 1: definitely got some athletic guys on offensive line. You know.

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Speaker 1: I know when when I worked with the offensive line group,

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Speaker 1: we made it a point, you know, we worked with

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and running backs and trying to beat them,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the drills because it's this you know,

467
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: we always like to know, we always like to think

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Speaker 1: that we you know, I can still do it and

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Speaker 1: play a skill position, but I think two man. You know,

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Speaker 1: when when it comes to Kellen and he has this

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Speaker 1: idea of what he wants an offense to look like,

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Speaker 1: and then you send you know, your general Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: out there, you know, he's calling the plays from the base.

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Speaker 1: And then you got your general out there just going

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Speaker 1: and getting it done, man. And he he took Kellen's vision, man,

476
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: and he's just you know, doing it out there on

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Speaker 1: the field. And when you got a guy like that,

478
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: them two are working together, you know, back and forth.

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00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, God bless anybody who lines up

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Speaker 1: against him, and it's like you said, they're they're having fun.

481
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: Like the Cedric Wilson play, it's a trick player, you're

482
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Speaker 1: having fun. Everybody's happy. Oh they tried it. They didn't work.

483
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Speaker 1: If you're losing, it's like what are they calling that play?

484
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: Like winning helps everything? Does? It makes everything enjoyable? And like, ah,

485
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Speaker 1: they'll you know, made a mistake there. It's fine thing,

486
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Speaker 1: the thing that you hold, the thing that you hope

487
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Speaker 1: for Keller and for the second time around, for coach

488
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Speaker 1: Quinn because it's coming the second time around. Is are

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Speaker 1: you that coach that got that that that one or

490
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: two plays in the bag that can make that average

491
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: team just a little bit better? Are that great team

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Speaker 1: go over the top. That's the thing you ask now

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00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: about Kellen. It can't does. He has enough to him

494
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Speaker 1: and Dad has enough moxie with each other to take

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Speaker 1: us to the next level. The next level ain't far

496
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Speaker 1: from me because all it is is two playoff wins.

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Speaker 1: I ain't talking super Bowl, I don't talk stupidity. I'm

498
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: talking realistically. You know, can they get to the to

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Speaker 1: the to the second round of playoffs and win it? Bid? Bid?

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Speaker 1: You had the best record and you're gonna have one

501
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: um off week and got advantage or you gotta go

502
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: through the whole gambit. I took the Super Bowl? Is realistic? Nah?

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Speaker 1: You know what? Hold that thought? Nay, I know what

504
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Speaker 1: you're gonna say. Let's talk about that, Tom Brady Town

505
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: all right, ain't gonna talk about that? What is realistic

506
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Speaker 1: for this? Let's talk about Let's talk about music, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into your music hand because I

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00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: know you're a big music guy. And we'll talk about

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00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys that are gonna be coming

510
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: back here in the next several weeks that are good players,

511
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: which makes this team even more scary. What's that gonna

512
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: look like when they come back? All of that and more.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Cowboys Cross Talk on the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: three pros. All right, Timpkin to my right, Nate Noon

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Speaker 1: to his right, and mister Brightside himself Jumbo Joe Looney,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the so Joe before we get back

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Speaker 1: to football talk and these here cowboys. You're a big

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00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: music guy, I am. How did you what did? Where

526
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: did your love of music start? Because you you you

527
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: you spend the you spend the ones and twos A

528
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: little bit. I tried. I tried to a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I tried. I tried to be a DJ a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I would definitely say my love comes comes from

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Speaker 1: my dad. I mean my dad was big on music.

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00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean I remember being and literally, you know, riding

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Speaker 1: to practice with him and he's, you know, jamming out

534
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: on Van Halen. You know, he was big in the

535
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: rock and roll Pete Floyd something like that, and you

536
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: know it just always was like, you know, hey, music

537
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: makes you feel good. You know if you if you're down,

538
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: you know you need something to pick you back up

539
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. I know one of the ones. You know,

540
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: my wife's love is, you know your love by the outfield,

541
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Josie's on a vacation coming around talking you know, so

542
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 1: many day I know that you know what a little man,

543
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: I just want to use ton Oh yeah, I mean music.

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00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: It helps, it brings, it brings everybody other picture moved up,

545
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: and I just I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it,

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00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I've always kind of had it there

547
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: with me, man, you know, and listening to a lot

548
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: of DJs and stuff like that. But I did try

549
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: to spend some tunes every now and then, you know,

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00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: try to work that down's still doing that, No, not anymore,

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00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: not anymore. I figured out, you know, I'm gonna you know,

552
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna gona but yeah, put that on, put down

553
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: on the back burder, you know, just you know, stick

554
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: to coaching somebody, these little kids in flag football. Well

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00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: that's a that's a first on this show. We've never

556
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: broken out in song. So thank you for for doing

557
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: that for us. It's amazing. I'm trying to make discount

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Speaker 1: as one our podcast so we can't have him in

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Speaker 1: the k All right, what about you and Nate? What's

560
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: your what's your musical taste? I literally love all music. Ahead,

561
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: I love all music. You have a very diverse music. Yeah,

562
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: I love all music. I ain't. I can't sing songs

563
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: like I'm back an home alone. But I love all

564
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: music except I can't do the hard, hard ascid rock.

565
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna let myself go back to the

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00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: rout no medal or rap because wrap that rap, rapp

567
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: twitch old rap that yeah, the good rap like Furious five,

568
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: sugar Hill Game and they're talking about corn bread and

569
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: stuff like that, chickens like wood. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I can do it the old rapper, none of this

571
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: new stuff about you. Yeah. A huge music fan and

572
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: into everything. I mean literally, I mean everything from Chopin

573
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: and Beethoven too, Tupac and everything between. Tool love metal,

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00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean everything because it's you know, different moods for

575
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: different you know. Hey, I just never was doing a

576
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: group dab of itself. Tool you know, tools awesome. I

577
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: know what I like metal, Yeah, but I listened to it.

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00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: I'll it was some guy was recording and dude made

579
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: me buy it see the store and I and it

580
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: was banging so hard, and my wife came in there.

581
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: I was like, I was, I was trying to get

582
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: into it. I was I founding some of them banging

583
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: my head on the wall to try to probably like

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Speaker 1: cut it off. Baby, they go work. Well, I'll tell

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00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: you what great music store one. We're in meetings and

586
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, coach Colombo was our offensive line. When I

587
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: was free Reign, Baby, Free Reign. I had no idea,

588
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, hit no Leonard Davis, I had no idea.

589
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: These guys and started a band. They pop up YouTube,

590
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, put on a music video there. I just learned.

591
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, baby, it was great. It was Mark Leonard,

592
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: Corey Proctor. Yeah, I know it was. It was all

593
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Speaker 1: offensive linement and yeah, well you know they were just

594
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: in there slapping the bass a little bit. You know,

595
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: it was so funny, like you had to like a

596
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: ball of big guys that I want to see you about.

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00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I like our music. Yeah, I mean, what's the what's

598
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: the music situation? Like on on game day and during

599
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: the week in the locker room, is there is everybody

600
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: listened to their headphones? Is their system in there? Like?

601
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: Who gets control of the of the music? Yeah? So

602
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: during game day, you know, this was actually one of

603
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: my you know a huge job of mine. During during

604
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: my little slay with the Cowboys, I was, you know

605
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of the team DJ and it's rough

606
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: in there. It's rough. And the job you gotta you know,

607
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: you gotta please everybody in that locker room, you know,

608
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: but you kind of get you know, you feel people

609
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: out and you know when to play certain songs and

610
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: get people pumped up. You know, as groups go out,

611
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: they got kind of their own song they want to hear,

612
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: and you see it, it's like the job, I'm doal

613
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: that up real quick, you know what's going ahead and

614
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: get them ready to play. So who took over that role?

615
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but you know we had, uh.

616
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: I think I think it was Daz. You know he

617
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: bought my first year here was twenty and sixteen, and

618
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: he bought this big jukebox into the into the locker room,

619
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: and I mean the things so just loud as heck, man,

620
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, just loud as head. And uh, you know

621
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Speaker 1: I finally ended up, you know, going over there and

622
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: kind of you know, all right, here's my Bluetooth hook up,

623
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: you know it kind of check it out, who's on

624
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: who's on the tubes? Man? Yeah, build build your confidence

625
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: a little, you know, it just kind of comes, you know,

626
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I literally get on to get on the tubes a

627
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: little bit. That's a great story. Oh yeah, music, Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I'm all over the place. I can listen to any country, rock,

629
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Speaker 1: hip hop. You can go to Mexico every year. What

630
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: you listen to when you go to Mexico, whatever, it

631
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: doesn't matter in Mexico. I'm I'm on vacation. I don't care.

632
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: But I'm a big live music guy. Like I'll go

633
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: listen to anything live at least once, just to see

634
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: if I like it and and know something that I

635
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: might get turned onto. But I'm I'm I'm like you are.

636
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: I'll listen to anything casting board, Yes, yes, how was

637
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: it in your day? Nate? Did y'all have someone that

638
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: had to uh? We started out likely it wasn't happening

639
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: with Coach Mander. If it wasn't uh Christian let gospel,

640
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: you wasn't you want to turn it home? But when

641
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy came, Jimmy had one rule. That's when the iPads

642
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: I pause was Yeah, y'all got enough money, buy your

643
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: iPod by your phones and put it on your own

644
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: play it out loud. Yeah, because if the guy next

645
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: to you say, hey, man, I don't like that music,

646
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: put your ill phones on it. You can bang it

647
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: as hard as you want. And then you graduate to

648
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: our generation, and then you got a bunch of guys

649
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: like me who who know think they can sing, you know,

650
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: because you got those noise canceling that pot. You put

651
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: the bows on and it's just you can't hear anything

652
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: as you hear the music, and you're just I think

653
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: you sound good. But then it's like, all right, put

654
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: them put put put the speech on. You don't want

655
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: to listen to that. So Joe you brought up earlier

656
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: the receivers, right, or what are they gonna do when

657
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup comes back? Like you've almost forgotten about Gallup?

658
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Cider Wilson's been showing up, you know, CD phenomenal Amari

659
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: maybe probably the best route runner in the game right now.

660
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Dak's dealing to everybody. Dalton Schultz, who saw that coming?

661
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: You thought Blake Jarwin was getting that job back when

662
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: he came in, and now Dalkans getting most of the snaps.

663
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: Where does Michael Gallup? Does he come back in? And

664
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Speaker 1: Cedric Hey, nice, thank you, but I mean, how incredible

665
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: is it though? That Like it seems like for the

666
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: last decade when this team had injuries. It was I mean,

667
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: remember it was the record. It was like the record

668
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: was Sean Lee was out. It was like I couldn't

669
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: win without Sean And so how you think about DeMarcus

670
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence has been missing them a missing Lyle Collins and

671
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: the missing muche Gallop. But these are really important players.

672
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: And it's like every you remember years past, every postgame show,

673
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, if only they can get this guy back, well,

674
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: then get this guy back. And now it's like what

675
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: are they gonna do when these guys come back? Right?

676
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: And I mean, I would say number one, this is

677
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good indication of where Michael Gallup probably not

678
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna be here next year because because of Cedric Wilson,

679
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: he makes him more expendable, which is tough because Michael

680
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: Gallup is a really good, underrated player. But he's gonna

681
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: go make probably make some good money elsewhere. But I

682
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna slide right back. And and he's a

683
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: very productive receiver. He's been such an underrated player for

684
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: the these guys. I mean he you know, he making

685
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: big time catches, third down catches, great balance, his ability

686
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: to make catches that are just you can't believe that

687
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: he'd make those catches. So I'm looking forward to seeing

688
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: him back because he's probably at this point like, hey,

689
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: they're not missing me as much as I hope they're

690
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: thought they would miss me. So he and then I mean,

691
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: and then you know, Lyle Collins, that's an interesting one too.

692
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's gonna go to right tackle.

693
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't, but I think now you have more confidence

694
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: in your swing tackle and Terrence Steele, Yeah, Nate talk

695
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: about that. I know, we talk about it on our

696
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: show when guys are hurt and they see guys bawling

697
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: out and then they're like, wait a minute, Yeah, yeah,

698
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm moved around if you won't. You know, I've been

699
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: about Wilson all year. You'll tell you I love how

700
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: to Train account about Wilson. But man, don't y'all ever

701
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: think it says Steel becomes Lyle or ever think yeah,

702
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, and see, I believe in the backup because

703
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: that's where I started. You know, that short lived that's

704
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: where he started. But come on, man, we have two

705
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: tight ends. They have people motioning we protect Lyle stands

706
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: over there by himself. Lyle does it by himself, and

707
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: you don't know. You can't. You think boy Wanda is

708
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: doing great things that offensive coordinator. Let my boy Lyle

709
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: get back and get his rhythm back and you'll see

710
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: some crazy stuff. Man, that one right there. Man, when

711
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: I hear people's talking about that one, I'll defend Lyle.

712
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: But now gallup, that's that's gonna be a hard call, man,

713
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be hard to just do Cedric like that.

714
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard, man, because coach even can't Coach

715
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: last week said in this press count Cedric is one

716
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: of the few players that can play every position and

717
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: he don't need he needs minimal reps. That's that's almost

718
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: irreplaceable guy. Man. But I think it's it's it's great

719
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: that we can't sit and have this conversation. Hey, nobody,

720
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: everybody loves being in the year of a Bundy, all right,

721
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: Right when you're having this talk where this guy could

722
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: go out there, this guy could go out there, it's

723
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: absolutely wonderful. And you know, going on with Lyall, I mean,

724
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: Lyle's he's an absolutely wonderful player. I mean the guy man,

725
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: when when he's out there, he just he brings he

726
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: brings a toughness, to the game like no other. And uh,

727
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's very unfortunate to see that he's going

728
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: through the situation now he's in now, but I think,

729
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, going through those things and as as an

730
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: NFL player, you you kind of get to sit down,

731
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: you focus, and it makes you more hungry to go

732
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: out there and play football. It makes you hungry to

733
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: go out there and play football. And to see Terrence

734
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: still man, you know, just like I said, you know,

735
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: your rookie year, it's hard to come NFL and play football. Man.

736
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, as much as we want to

737
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: sit here and talk, if you if you just it's

738
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: hard to come in and you know, do something to

739
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: fill those shoes for lyl or Tyrant Smith. But to

740
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: see him playing, you know, with the confidence that he

741
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: has this year, it's absolutely wonderful. Yeah. You know, I

742
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: try to tell people last year, Shannon, I defended this

743
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: kid all over bit. Yeah yeah, let coach for him

744
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: and is working with this kid. I defended him. But see,

745
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: you gotta keep looking at that film and now that

746
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: he's confident, he's better. When when you get this guy

747
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: blow pass you two or three times, that dude from

748
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland Blue pass him earlier in the game. You knew

749
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: the game was over for this kid. Yeah, it's tough,

750
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: you know. So now he wouldn't take that challenge, And

751
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: now he's like, if I can get my hands on,

752
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you. You know, I will not give you.

753
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: But I'm exactly Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Man.

754
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: I had to hand it the meal a couple of times.

755
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: That ain't a good thing, I tell you what. And

756
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: he was in such a tough spot. I mean, undrafted

757
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: free agent on Texas tacking. Oh yeah, go play left

758
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: tackle and go block. Yeah, that's one of the toughest

759
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: things to man, man with the wide receiver position. You know.

760
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: Going back to Michael Gallant, Mike's such a great dude.

761
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things we don't get

762
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: to talk about much is how much of a great

763
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: guy he is in the locker room. Yeah, yeah, man,

764
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: you know you want to talk about just a positive guy.

765
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: You know, even when he went down, you know, he's

766
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: he's cheered on his teammates. You gotta love him just

767
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: his personality in there. All right, let's take out a

768
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: last break. When we come back. Who knows what we'll

769
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: talk about because we got the great Jumbo Joe Looney,

770
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl which, oh we got a tenty you forgot,

771
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about it Bowl. I was I was trying

772
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: not to get you on this nonsense my flight for LA.

773
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. When we come back,

774
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: we'll get on the nonsense train with Nate Newton. Okay,

775
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be right back. Cows Cross Talking to

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782
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Speaker 1: this is the final segment and I have a bone

783
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: to pick with the biggest cowboy fan that I know.

784
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: Shannon grows here, joined by Ari Tempkin, the greatest of

785
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: Joe Looney. Last segment, give up the Jumbo Joe and

786
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: the biggest cowboy fan that I know. Mister Nate Newton,

787
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: you just said the Super Bowl this year is nonsense,

788
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: and Mari I want you to get him after after

789
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: he says he's say, why see, I just believe it's

790
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: too many stages you have to go through, and you

791
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: haven't gotten past the first stage. I mean, you've won

792
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: the NFC East, you know you've done that several times,

793
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: but you've got into the first round of the playoffs.

794
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: Is always that second round and the talent get better

795
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: and better, Like this thing is set up for the

796
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys to be in the playoffs. You look at the

797
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: NFC East and the rest of their opponents. They're catching

798
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: these teams at the wrong time when they're on rolls.

799
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: We catch these teams on the back end. Now maybe,

800
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: but we've been decided about the next eight games. We

801
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't was the next four games ain't no way. You

802
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: look at the schedule, it's no way. So now were

803
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: eight and one. Now we got to get on the

804
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: back end of that schedule. We can we got three

805
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: or four more games, but the other teams would be

806
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: so beat up. But now you're playing the better team.

807
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: When you're getting the playoffs, you ain't playing no easy.

808
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: It don't happen. You're gonna play up a good defense,

809
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get have somebody that's can match up with

810
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: the Mari. You can have somebody can match up with

811
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: with CD. I stop your run game. So that is

812
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then we don't know the injuries

813
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: five weeks from now for other teams are us. So

814
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: let's go get in the playoffs. Let's see where it

815
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: will seated. Let's win that first game, and let's win

816
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: that next game, and then you you, you won't be

817
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: able to hold me back because I'm already visualizing giving

818
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: me some miniature flags right this, Howards stoppers on them

819
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: from going to East City. We will there along the

820
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: way and just going to their local bar in front

821
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: of the and staking it out like that. Don't leave

822
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Jesse on the porch this time. Make sure you pick

823
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: ain't taking jest with me. I'mna let you know straight up, Jesse,

824
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna all right. You agree with Nate or

825
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: do you think this in terms of like incremental growth

826
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: experience the playoffs? Is that the quarterback specifically is I mean,

827
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: because it's the whole, it's the whole team. To see

828
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: one thing that I love about Brady, I love about Rogers.

829
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: Even even if even if you can get the gap

830
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: from Seattle. If you can get them to the second

831
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: round and you can have them within three to seven

832
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: points for four minutes left on that clock, you are

833
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: scared to death. Yeah. Have we ever just been into

834
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: that position where we where our quarterback has uh, the

835
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: Mojoe moment? You get what I'm saying. You got to

836
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: since certain times, Man, in the game, you will see

837
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: Brady getting blowed out of You'll see him getting beat

838
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: in the game, but he's still in there because he's

839
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Speaker 1: trying out things, he's running his team. Is that stuff

840
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: like that? But yeah, and so I tell people you

841
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: have to get in moments and live through those moments. Man,

842
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: is our offensive line gonna be intact enough to make

843
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: all of these adjustments? Because now in the playoffs, you

844
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: got your fifty scouts and your coaches looking at one team.

845
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: They ain't spread out over the country looking at your weaknesses.

846
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: Do you have enough strength to cover your weaknesses in

847
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs? So success for you this year? Get to

848
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: the second round of the playoff, win it, and then

849
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: and then lose the NFC championship game. Oh my goodness, Joe,

850
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: what success for you? I'm not I'm not an analyst.

851
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: By any means, but I think both of you guys

852
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: are hitting you know, the hammer on the nail. And

853
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: the great thing about the playoffs is when you get

854
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: in the tournament, you're in the tournament, yeah, and you

855
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: have no idea that's a you know, it's a one

856
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: game season at that point. And from from being a

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00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: player and being a fan of football, when when you're

858
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: in those games, i mean, you're you're, you're the details

859
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: you go down into, I mean, it makes you a

860
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: better player. You know, it brings all the you know,

861
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: the goodness out of you as a player because you

862
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: know it's it's win or go home. So I mean,

863
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: if you can get yourself in the tournament and make

864
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: it a one season game after that, I mean, you know, hey,

865
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: anything can happen at that point. Anything can happen because

866
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: I know, you know, as being a backup player, you know,

867
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: being a in a backup role, you always prepare like

868
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: you're going to be a starter, so there's no drop off.

869
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: And on the one year, you know, Travis went down

870
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: and he got hurt, and I stepped up and you

871
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: know had to go in there and play, and I was,

872
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, blessed to have a guy like that, you

873
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: know in my ear, but it's just it makes you

874
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: want to play that much better because you know the

875
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: standard of what the team is looking for. So you

876
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: know you're getting attorney and you go from there. Baby,

877
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean the thing. The other thing to Nate's point before,

878
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: like what we saw week one, do we have enough

879
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: confidence in this defense to where you give the ball

880
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: back to an Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs? You give

881
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: the ball back to a Tom Brady in the playoffs.

882
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: You're down, you're up three, you're up four, you're up two.

883
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: So I think if this offense is good enough to

884
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, I believe that. But the question

885
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: is are they good enough defensively to get a stop

886
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: in a moment that they need to? Like so many

887
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: times before, when Aaron Rodgers and the playoffs to everybody,

888
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: not just the Cowboys but to everybody where's he's done

889
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: those moments, you have a defense and get those stops

890
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: a stop when they need to. You saw Tampa Bay

891
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: do that to Green Bay last year. They got those stops,

892
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: and that's what and that's you You notice strain of

893
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: every play you have run hundreds and hundreds of plays,

894
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: doing the regular season. But when you get into that

895
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs, the strain of ten plays

896
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: that you almost have to be perfect on get a

897
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: break own. It's so tremendous. And that's what I typed.

898
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: That second round that's where the bulletolfs barked and the

899
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: poodles go home. I'm telling you. But yeah, just like

900
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: we talked about, you know, when we had our mics off,

901
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: we were talking about, you know, sometimes you really you

902
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: need the ball to roll your way in the NFL.

903
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: You know, there's gotta be you know, some some kind

904
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: of way the balls gott to roll your play you know,

905
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: roll your way. You know, the planet's aligned to get

906
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: to that super Bowl because you know from experience from

907
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. Once you know it's it's

908
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: so hard to just get into the playoffs even sniff

909
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: that field. You know again, but man, once you're there,

910
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: you know you you definitely need that that in that

911
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: sense of the ball rolling your way in the game. Yeah,

912
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't care. We didn't care. Oh Man, they got lucky.

913
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: Like I told you, guys off are oh Man, they

914
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: played against seven backup quarterbacks that year. Okay, my ring

915
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: is still big Yeah. Yeah, all right. For them to

916
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl, they gotta go to New

917
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: England and take care of business this weekend. New England's

918
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: not having the greatest year, but that is a tough

919
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: place to play. The weather is always seems to be

920
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: tricky when the Cowboys go up there. All right, what

921
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: do you expect to happen? And what kind of outcome

922
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Speaker 1: do you think? What's your what's your score prediction? Nineteen

923
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: eighty seven, that's the last time the Cowboys won in

924
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: New England. Wow, I think it was there for that.

925
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: But who's a quarterback? Uh? Some guy flua thank somebody

926
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: like that for the Patriots. Steve Brogan, I don't know.

927
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think the Cowboys will win.

928
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: As Nate said, I mean you look at the schedule

929
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: and you know, there's just to me, it comes down

930
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: to cann of these offenses that they're gonna play, thank

931
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Speaker 1: you duel them not. New England's absolutely not. Yeah, the

932
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys are definitely gonna put up points. You know, it's

933
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: always tougher playing on the road, but that that that

934
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: offense is gonna put up points. Saying the defense is

935
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: playing you know where they need to be right now

936
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: and they can definitely go up there and you know,

937
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: bring it back to Dallas. You neither one of you

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Speaker 1: gave me a score. Oh, I'll go twenty eight seventeen, baby,

939
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: that's what we do on the show. Let's go at eight. Hey,

940
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: throw on the road. The weather's gonna get no where.

941
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: Never know what the weather is. So that's my score prediction, babe.

942
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: All right, I'll go to the low scoring. I'll go

943
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys thirty four, Patriots seventeen, Nate one point. That's all

944
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: I need, But I need a victim. I'm trying to

945
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: get to the playoff. Who's winning though? Who do you

946
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: have a winning Cowboys seventeen? Oh? I mean sixteen and one.

947
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: This is why why I'm shocked that he doesn't have

948
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: them winning the Super Bowls the next three way two

949
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: weeks to vote to super Bowl. Love it, love it

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Speaker 1: all right. It has been a pleasure, man. It's always

951
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Speaker 1: good to see your name. Good seeing you. Thank you

952
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: for coming. Oh you got about me? The great Joe

953
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Speaker 1: Loony joining us tonight. We'll be back next week. It's

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Speaker 1: been another episode of Cowboys Crosstalk. See you next week.

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