WEBVTT - Dramatic Questions? We got answers!

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Z mccoveany from the home office

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin, Texas love shows like Today because well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about you, guys. We reached out and said, hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>questions do you have for LZ and I. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>a moment of trepidation excitement as we find out what's

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind and what you guys want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Elsie one of the things that I know we got

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<v Speaker 1>questioned about and we can jump into it right away.

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<v Speaker 1>Merritt Street and how things are going? Where are you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and how's the network going?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, And there's still this element of like, people

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<v Speaker 2>ask when are you going to be on merit and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad because we're working on it. We are

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<v Speaker 2>in the process of staffing up for our morning show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can give that update. We are interviewing

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<v Speaker 2>candidates for our morning show team and staff, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are in the process. Well why don't you give the

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<v Speaker 2>reality dating show?

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<v Speaker 1>The reality dating show? And people have asked more details

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and we're not going to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of it yet, but what we will say is

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<v Speaker 1>we are starting the you know again, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the Morning Show, the production phase. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into casting and putting the show together and then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I hadn't thought about this when we

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<v Speaker 1>would talk about the concept and when all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>will get out, But well down the road, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it is the time to know. It's definitely not yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but but we do. Yes, we're very very good. We

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<v Speaker 1>love the team we've put together, the people were working with,

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<v Speaker 1>the people were working for, the Merritt family has been

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic and Doctor Phil and Joel Cheatwood and everybody over

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<v Speaker 1>there Phil McIntyre. So it's just been more and more

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<v Speaker 1>exciting and I will have more and more Doctor Phil

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<v Speaker 1>episodes popping up. I'll let you guys know via social

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<v Speaker 1>media when I will be on. Who knows when you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this, but I know May seventh, there's one

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. We're talking about the Nil College deal, so

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<v Speaker 1>that one will be airing, so I'll let you guys know.

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<v Speaker 1>But exciting stuff, and everything's going phenomenally well over there.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the Merritt Street update. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to dive in with a hot question.

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<v Speaker 2>Send an anonymously. This is a relationships question. How long

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<v Speaker 2>should you wait to have sex in a new relationship?

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<v Speaker 2>I have my answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you have a definite you have like a.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a number. I just have a formula.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, formula that's even better.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's proportionate to you and where you're at

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<v Speaker 2>in your life. Oh yeah, okay, And by that I

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<v Speaker 2>mean and it's also your age is another part of

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<v Speaker 2>that math equation. I do think, like I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>people in their late teens early twenties. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>at that age and I'm making a sweeping generalization, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think at that age a lot of people think, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I can just took up with someone and like I

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<v Speaker 2>won't have any feelings. I also think there can be

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<v Speaker 2>a difference between how males and females really feel in

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<v Speaker 2>those situations. But if you're at that age and you're

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<v Speaker 2>I think you just need to be honest with yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you convincing yourself, Oh, I can sleep with someone

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<v Speaker 2>right away, I won't get attached. I think at that

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<v Speaker 2>age of life you get more attached. Our feelings are big.

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<v Speaker 2>At that age you have big obsessions, big swings. Breakups

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<v Speaker 2>are hard. The older you get, the more in control

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<v Speaker 2>of your own feelings you hopefully become. If you're maturing

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<v Speaker 2>and growing and working on yourself. And I do think

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<v Speaker 2>the older you get, and especially as you know more

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<v Speaker 2>of what you want, it can be easier to lessen

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<v Speaker 2>how much time you become, like the length of time

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<v Speaker 2>which you wait to be come intimate with someone. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to having sex, buyer beware

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know yourself, is what I'm saying. Know

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<v Speaker 1>what you want out of this, And Lauren just hit

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<v Speaker 1>the nail on the head. You have to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with yourself. I think we fool ourselves a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>think you can do something and there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>no emotional tax. There is an emotional tax to it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just going to jump and sleep around, and

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<v Speaker 1>just know this. It does change things. The sex changes things.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want more out of a relationship, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want this to go somewhere, if you think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility of it being meaningful, then you need to

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<v Speaker 1>treat it as such. You need to have respect for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not being the old traditional you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no definite time stamp of two dates, three dates, five

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<v Speaker 1>dates a year, whatever. It's different for all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is a level of respect you need to

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<v Speaker 1>have if you want something serious out of this relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to just bop around on the first

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<v Speaker 1>date and you're going to be treated as such, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't be surprised when you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sex either makes things quickly less meaningful, like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just a hookup, or it makes things quickly

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<v Speaker 2>more meaningful like oh what are we now? And now

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<v Speaker 2>we're intimate, and it accelerates things that.

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<v Speaker 1>Can go either way. So yes, just be what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want there be that can go either way for

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<v Speaker 1>the guy girl or.

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<v Speaker 2>Advice is when it comes to sex, buyer beware.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well it's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy wants to know a little bit more a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a sex question. If your partner cheats on you,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think there is ever a chance of making

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<v Speaker 2>it work? Since I'm asking these questions, my answer is

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<v Speaker 2>a little more ready swall you think on it? I

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<v Speaker 2>do think so. I think I'm just a believer that

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<v Speaker 2>relationships people make mistakes. I don't know, I've never gone

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<v Speaker 2>into any relationship really Like, I'm not that person who's

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<v Speaker 2>like things are black or white and if you do this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's over forever. I think guy make mistakes. I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody makes mistakes, and it's totally case by case in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship. And what's always proportionate to me or meaningful

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<v Speaker 2>to me rather is one what was the intent when

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<v Speaker 2>the person messed up? Were they being totally careless with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Were they trying to hurt you? Or were they traumatized

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<v Speaker 2>and hurt in some way themselves which created a mistake,

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<v Speaker 2>Like where's their heart at and what's the intent? And two,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the effort on them fixing what they did? How

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<v Speaker 2>committed are they? How much real work are they doing?

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<v Speaker 2>And whether it's cheating or I don't know, hiding a

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<v Speaker 2>gambling dead or abusing alcohol or whatever it is, I

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<v Speaker 2>think those two things always tell me whether you should

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<v Speaker 2>stay in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another one that kind of, like the sex questions,

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<v Speaker 1>very age and experience dependent, right. I think when we're younger,

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<v Speaker 1>we have this kind of very black and white thought

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<v Speaker 1>of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And cheaters are bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's it's almost like you see you're evil. You

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<v Speaker 1>see what some of the college kids are doing now

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<v Speaker 1>with their ideas and their thoughts and the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>revolution they got going on. It's like everything's very black

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<v Speaker 1>and white. Right. It's that's when you're younger. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to have those things. As you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>you realize there's a big gray area in life and

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<v Speaker 1>you realize there's a lot of perspectives and you got

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<v Speaker 1>to take things in and like Lauren said, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of depends. It really depends on the person and in

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<v Speaker 1>the experience and how they talk about it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just would say life's not so black and white.

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<v Speaker 1>So the older you get, I think there is much

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<v Speaker 1>more of that ability.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what you're talking about too, is like knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what you don't know, which is a phrase you say

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, like, for example, I've said this for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, part of the reason I would never say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you know this person, sheets be done

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<v Speaker 2>with them. I have no idea what it's like to

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<v Speaker 2>be in a marriage for thirty years, right, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what it's like to be married to someone

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<v Speaker 2>who I don't know is I'm just I knowing has

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<v Speaker 2>been ill for many years. I don't know what arrangements

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<v Speaker 2>people have in relationships. I don't know what it's like

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<v Speaker 2>to be like. I do know people who have cheated

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<v Speaker 2>in situations where I'm sorry they were I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>they were in a marriage with someone who was deeply

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<v Speaker 2>mentally and emotionally abusive, like and eventually that marriage ended

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<v Speaker 2>and they were just trying to find a way out

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<v Speaker 2>and they were in a tough situation. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't you know, you don't know what you haven't experienced,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, and you have to try to be empathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely not a one size fits all answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll keep going, and then you should take over some

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<v Speaker 2>of these so that I don't have to be answering.

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<v Speaker 1>First, you're the best host. Wow, thanks all answer first

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<v Speaker 1>you can?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, let me throw it at you. Amy says,

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<v Speaker 2>are there any people from Bachelor Nation that you wish

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<v Speaker 2>you had maintained a friendship with who you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>No, nobody that I wish i'd maintained. Because I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I've maintained these relationships. There are people I well, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of them that I wish I saw more. There are

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<v Speaker 1>so many, you know. One of the beautiful things about

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<v Speaker 1>our wedding was we got to see so many of

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<v Speaker 1>them because you know, Ashley and Jared, you know, Jade

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<v Speaker 1>and Tanner, like, we just don't get to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, especially because the pandemic yea Tristan Rossau just from

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<v Speaker 2>having events for so everybody's just spread around the country.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, Bob Getey, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>if he lives in America, somewhere in the Pacific Northwest,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I don't get to see him

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<v Speaker 2>enough and talk to you know, so we text and

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<v Speaker 2>we keep in touch. But I wish I could see

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<v Speaker 2>them more, because when we all do get together for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, it's always such a lovely time. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was somebody who I think you'd loved but hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>kept in touch with as much. But we've reconnected with

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<v Speaker 2>a bit here and we need to see him again soon,

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<v Speaker 2>as Brad Walmack.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah again. Yeah, I mean he's and he's right under

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<v Speaker 1>our nose here in Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean when we first moved here, we got

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<v Speaker 2>dinner and you were like, oh, it was so good

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<v Speaker 2>to see you. So let's call Brad Walmack.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's call Brad Walmack. Yes. You know, if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>takeaway from this podcast today, Brad, you're buying this dinner soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's about it's all a wish that

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<v Speaker 2>we could see people more. You're right, I like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>people pop up on Instagram and you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing them, but that in person hang is always better.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's hard. Everybody's spread out everywhere and busy. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's great to be in a place where you want

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<v Speaker 2>to hang out with people and talk to them more.

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<v Speaker 2>Grace is wondering what is your least favorite and most

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<v Speaker 2>favorite job that you have had over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>What if it's the same one. I've had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of jobs, man, I've had a lot of jobs. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the craziest, happiest time of was beginning my sportscasting careers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just everything was new. I was starting the adventure of

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<v Speaker 1>launching this career. This is back in ninety three when

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<v Speaker 1>I graduated and I started working Oklahoma City, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so new, and I was covering things for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time and doing things and making mistakes and learning

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<v Speaker 1>at such a high level. It was like drinking from

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<v Speaker 1>a fire hydrant. And luckily I had some amazing mentors

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<v Speaker 1>around me to teach me and and groom me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I worked hard at my craft. That was maybe my

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<v Speaker 1>most enjoyable time because it was so hard and fun

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<v Speaker 1>and just the reward, the risk reward was so high.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's good to build something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, and again the Bachelor, We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot. At the beginning it was wonderful, but

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of it all was the best because you're

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<v Speaker 1>creating it all and it was so new and everything's

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<v Speaker 1>happening for the first time, and you know the travel

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<v Speaker 1>and even press and learning how to do it all

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<v Speaker 1>and handle it. That's exciting. What about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Least favorite job? Part time employee at Target In high

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<v Speaker 2>school and college, people are really mean to part time

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<v Speaker 2>employees at Darks. They are madam you and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know specific information and prices about every single object at

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<v Speaker 2>the store.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be nice to those Those folks work in the

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<v Speaker 1>summer jobs at Target.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I was like, I'm a they I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The next laurenz em Well, they just talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Down to you. They assume you're stupid, whether because you're

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<v Speaker 2>young or I I don't know. And yeah, they were

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<v Speaker 2>just really uh also so careless, Like would just drop

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<v Speaker 2>clothes on the floor and leave them in the clothing section.

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<v Speaker 2>I stupidly, as a teenager, thought, I like clothes, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>work in the clothing section. No, if you are getting

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<v Speaker 2>a part time job as a high schooler at a

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<v Speaker 2>place like a Target, be a cashier, the day goes

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<v Speaker 2>by so much faster and you just get to stand

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<v Speaker 2>in place and you were like running around and dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of people and it just goes by slowly.

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<v Speaker 2>So best best job I've ever had. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>loved doing Roses and Rose. Yeah, because that was this

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<v Speaker 2>combination of like doing news but making it funny and

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<v Speaker 2>giving it this comedic twist. And I don't think we've

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<v Speaker 2>said this, but I will say I I guess we

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<v Speaker 2>can reveal that part of our plan with the new

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<v Speaker 2>reality dating show would be that I will do an

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<v Speaker 2>after show for it. Oh yeah, much like Roses and Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>We definitely should say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's the plan. Maybe we won't share the

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<v Speaker 2>concept yet, but the idea would be Chris will host

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<v Speaker 2>the show and I will do an after show. And

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<v Speaker 2>I will absolutely relish doing that again because I loved

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<v Speaker 2>and working on the Yeah, yes, but I loved like

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<v Speaker 2>that comedic spin. I love getting Truly, what makes me happy,

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<v Speaker 2>however I can do it, is making people happy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I like that. I've realized that about myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love making people laugh. But you know you

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<v Speaker 2>need the right venue to do it in. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>even on the podcast. Someday, you know, we get like

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<v Speaker 2>more in depth here, but it's not the venue of

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<v Speaker 2>like that ridiculous side of me where I was drinking

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<v Speaker 2>wine and comparing the show to Game of Thrones and

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<v Speaker 2>like Taylor Swift albums and doing crossovers of everything I loved.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot, I didn't say my worst. I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the sand and finished crew of a floor company at

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<v Speaker 1>French Brown Floors in Dallas, Texas summer job. When you

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<v Speaker 1>sand and finish floors like our hardwood floor, you just

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<v Speaker 1>hold this like seventy five pound machine as you're bent

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<v Speaker 1>over all day in a one hundred and eight degree

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<v Speaker 1>house because you can't have the air conditioning on because

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<v Speaker 1>of all the dust, and it's just a miserable job.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what kept me in college. I'm like, I will

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<v Speaker 1>get my degree. I will not do this.

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<v Speaker 2>That was But what's great is that you still remember

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<v Speaker 2>those skills and you yourself. I sand did and finished

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<v Speaker 2>our outdoor table, as I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't sand and finish anything like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, and I didn't trust him. I have to admit

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I know what to do, and I'm like, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>that's an expensive table. I'm sure you know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we should call someone. No, you knew what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Any question of questioned you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask this next question because it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sporty because the first Saturday and May is coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to the Kentucky Derby. We're not going this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But Elsie tips, well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going, and I shouldn't say we didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a bad time and we got invited to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, We got graduation, we had stuff, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We just couldn't fit it in, but we were invited

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<v Speaker 2>and would have been happy to go again. So tips

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. I wish I'd put a little more time,

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<v Speaker 2>like I put time into the outfit, but put time

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<v Speaker 2>into the outfit. That's don't make it an afterthought, make

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<v Speaker 2>it a focus and the hat can I.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask a question on behalf of women that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to answer. What's the shoe situation? What should I be wearing?

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<v Speaker 1>Shoe wise?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's so hard. You have to do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of walking, Yeah, a lot of walking. Yet you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be wearing heels because your outfit's cute, whatever your

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<v Speaker 2>comfort is. You know, that's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Because by the way, they do sell flip flops, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's kids with flip flops right outside the door as

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<v Speaker 1>you walk out, because they know everybody walks out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's like a wedding when they have flip flops

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<v Speaker 2>after dancing, like you are gonna want to be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much walking because it's so small where the

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<v Speaker 2>derby is and it's on all these tiny little streets

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<v Speaker 2>that like cars can't get to you, like you have

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<v Speaker 2>to walk to get out of it all. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy yourself and try what's the signature drink.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the mint Julip.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the mintulap? Yes, but they have like a

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<v Speaker 2>special way they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought mint julip.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't remember, but give it a whirl.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the drink. And by the way, for your

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<v Speaker 1>handicapping tips, look at some of these races, the Arkansas Derby,

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana Derby, the Florida Derby, Lot of Lot, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>just look at the winner of those races. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>who may have finished second, very close, may have had

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<v Speaker 1>a bad trip. Look at those races for those three

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<v Speaker 1>year olds coming up, have a blast. One hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fiftieth Kentucky Derby's coming up. It is a milestone. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a trip to Louisville. You won't forget. For all

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<v Speaker 1>of our friends we made last year in Louisville, we

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<v Speaker 1>miss you, guys. Will we will be back, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just got some big family and life events coming up

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<v Speaker 1>that we just can't miss it for. But we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>watching on NBC. We appreciate it. Should I ask this

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<v Speaker 1>question from Mary, what are some IX like and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like ikey like ooh ick, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that you know what this is referencing.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me help you people today save the ick

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<v Speaker 2>like wh it gives me the ick? You know, no

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<v Speaker 2>one's saying ikey, but like you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just meant like I was trying to explain because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if if you hear that, am I

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<v Speaker 1>enunciating it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>So yes? So Mary's asking, what are some ix you

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<v Speaker 2>used to get from someone if they would say or

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<v Speaker 2>do something on the first few dates? So basically what

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<v Speaker 2>gave us the ick? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember the one I got the ick from

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad conversationalist, someone who didn't ask me one

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<v Speaker 1>question the entire night, didn't ask one question. I just

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<v Speaker 1>which is odd because I did this to you, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you did this to me. I'm not sure which,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad we made it through that ick stage.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, someone who doesn't ever ask about you and

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<v Speaker 1>they just talk incessantly about themselves, that's an ick.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. I was gonna say the same thing. That's

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<v Speaker 2>my ick in romantic relationships and friendships and work relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my human ick. If a person never can go like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know about you, And Chris is saying,

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't heard us tell this story. On our

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<v Speaker 2>first date, I and I always say give people a

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<v Speaker 2>second date. I think the first date's an interview. It's hard,

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<v Speaker 2>people are nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>So airs wasn't perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was great. But I'll usually give people a

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<v Speaker 2>second date if they I mean not anymore. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if there were one or two things off, I'd still

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<v Speaker 2>give a second date because first dates are weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny, we both have the same ick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But on our first date, I felt like Chris

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<v Speaker 2>did talk about himself quite a lot. But we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it later and he said, I felt like you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to interview mode and asked me a million questions.

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<v Speaker 2>So that might have been my fault. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I have an awareness. I tend to do that. I

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<v Speaker 2>like love people's stories, and so I asked them all questions.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not looking for a lot back. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>looking for the same level back. But if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>give me even a how are you, where are you from,

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<v Speaker 2>or what do you do for work, I'm very turned off.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to interact with that person anymore because

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<v Speaker 2>to me, any relationship is a two way straight any

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<v Speaker 2>physical x oh I have a physical I really hate

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<v Speaker 2>someone has they I guess they must feel they have

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<v Speaker 2>food in their mouth or something, and they reach back

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<v Speaker 2>into their mouth and dig food out of their teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I mean that anytime anywhere, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>ever want to see that. It's so gross. Yeah, it's disgusting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've seen people do it in very public situations

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe I'm weird. Is it socially.

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<v Speaker 1>Acceptable to this? Is if someone goes, hey, you got

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<v Speaker 1>some like youth, you pull out your phone and you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>please tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, or tell me if I have lipstick on my teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Am I wrong? Is this acceptable to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even stand to hear people.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any physical it you had? What about like

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<v Speaker 2>the way people dressed? I will say if a guy

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<v Speaker 2>showed up in like more brands than me, like looking

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<v Speaker 2>really flashy or something, it would give me a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an egg.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather that. I don't like. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get on the guys about this. I don't like guys

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<v Speaker 1>that don't dress to the occasion. Don't go to the

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<v Speaker 1>steakhouse with your hat on backwards and your golf pullover

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<v Speaker 1>and your jeans and like just guys that don't put

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<v Speaker 1>the effort in and you just think the college sweatshirt

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<v Speaker 1>or the golf pullover fits for every occasion. It doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you see your wife or your significant other

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<v Speaker 1>make an effort. Try to match that effort. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you screwed up, which by the way, I've done that before,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to an event and you'll come out and

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<v Speaker 1>it may not even be a big deal, but you'll

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<v Speaker 1>come out just looking super cute. And I realize, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not I'm not at this level, and I

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<v Speaker 1>go back and I'll grab a jacket, I'll put on

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<v Speaker 1>a different shirt. You should match the level of your's.

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<v Speaker 2>True someone showed up like in a hoodie for a date.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, well, where's the effort. You're not even trying.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if I don't think the moment warrants that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to match you better to be overdressed in y

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<v Speaker 1>I always agree with that. This is an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want your opinion on ALI. Is it a

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<v Speaker 1>red flag if my boyfriend doesn't like or let me

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<v Speaker 1>post bikini photos on social media?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's one hundred percent of red flag. Why

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<v Speaker 2>you yes, okay, go oh you and I feel you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I just remember this from when we

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<v Speaker 2>were dating. Yes, this is funny. Yes, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a red flag because it feels like an ownership factor,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can't tell me what to do with my

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<v Speaker 2>body and I'm going to post a bikini photo if

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<v Speaker 2>I want, and it feels controlling.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Ali, It depends on if you're asking, is

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<v Speaker 1>it a red flag? If my boyfriend doesn't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>is it a red flag? If my boyfriend doesn't let

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<v Speaker 1>me it is It's not even a red flag. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a deal breaker if he won't let you. If he's

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<v Speaker 1>that controlling and has, as Lauren said, ownership over you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a thing. So you need to nip that

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<v Speaker 1>in the butt. You need to have a serious conversation

0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>because nobody should control you to that level. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to do what you want to a certain degree. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't like it, that's not a red flag.

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>That just that could very well mean he just loves

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you and really wants you for himself and he has

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>this intimacy connection with you and he doesn't want to

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>share that part of you to the world. Again, there's

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 1>varying degrees of bikini picks too. How sexy are you being?

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.359
<v Speaker 1>How you know there's there's different levels. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like it and he says that to you, no,

0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's admitting your feelings and it's being honest,

0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's a very good conversation to have and that's

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 1>something that's very normal. Again, if he crosses that line

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and says I forbid you, then get in your car.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, have that conversation and see what is issue with

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:04.199
<v Speaker 2>it is why? Okay, So when we were first dating,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I'm telling the story right. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>sent you a bikini pick.

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you did, and you loved it, a red bikini pick.

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I texted it to you, and then you were like

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<v Speaker 2>you told me later that you kind of wondered if

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to post it on social and that

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:22.199
<v Speaker 2>you were glad I never did that. I had just

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<v Speaker 2>sent it to you because so what was the thinking there?

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, my thinking was several fold here. Strategicy is what

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking. Okay, she sends me this pick, which,

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>in guys, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>A nude I just said it was a bikini I know,

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 2>but it was a bikini pick, But why did you

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 2>need to declare?

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, but it was it was sexy, Okay, So you

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 1>sent me and I thought it was sexy, and so

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought and I said so, and I was like,

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I really loved it. And it made me think, oh,

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>she's thinking of me, she likes me. This is going

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.880
<v Speaker 1>well like me, this is going well. I'm feeling these

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 1>things too, and now it's being reciprocated. We're being flirty

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.679
<v Speaker 1>and fun. If she had taken that same picture that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was special, I thought was meant for me

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and was taken with me and mine, now it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>So it would have taken ful to you. It would

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<v Speaker 2>have felt like a way I thought, We don't know.

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying.

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>You're saying hurtful, less meaningful. Now I realize it wasn't

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>meant for me. You don't care. It was a first

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.360
<v Speaker 1>trap and I want everybody to comment on it. Got

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<v Speaker 1>it and instead of I just wanted to see what

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you would say about it. By sending it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to turn you on and make you think

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<v Speaker 1>of me, which it did. But then if I see, oh,

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I think I look so hot, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna send it to the world. Yeah, it just takes takes.

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<v Speaker 2>I see that because basically what you're talking about is

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<v Speaker 2>like and honestly, I think there I'm getting. Specifically, there

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>might be a difference in like posing it also like

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<v Speaker 2>posting a photo where like you're on the beach with

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.159
<v Speaker 2>your girlfriends on your girls trip and everybody's in a

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 2>swimsuit versus like a super sexish posed bikini photo. Yeah,

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.360
<v Speaker 2>so maybe there's a difference there. Yeah, And I see

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, because ultimately it is about like there

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 2>is an element of the person you're dating or your

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>partner feeling like, well, are some parts of you and

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 2>some sides of you like special just for us? And

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I do think that's important in relationships.

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>And Ali, I understand kind of where you're leading this to,

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>which is insecurity and jealousy. Those are difficult subjects because

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 1>some of that I think is healthy and okay, and

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you should want a certain level of discretion and confidence

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>between the two of you, things that you guys just share.

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>But then those things can go across that line, and

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>again there's always that gray area of jealousy can also

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>be a toxic thing and controlling and those things can

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>be bad. You have to moderate them and have those

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>discussions to find out what you're comfortable with and what

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>he's comfortable with.

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 2>God, I'm realizing we probably could do a whole podcast

0:25:46.560 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>episode about posting bikini picks. We could, all right, next

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 2>question though, Lucy says, well, yes, we haven't talked about

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.400
<v Speaker 2>this yet. Lucy says, the first Golden Bachelor couple got

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 2>a divorce. What do you guys think Does the Golden

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Bachelor have the potential to be a success?

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Sure, it does, Yeah, I mean I don't know these

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>pe Well, here's the question.

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 2>You know what, the question is success in what way?

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Success is a show success? In relationships?

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>It's true because as the Bachelor, you know, the show

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>was never predicated on the fact that it was successful

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>all the time with the marriage, with the marriages, right,

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>ratings matter and you know, advertisers buying space on your

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>show matters, so that is a success, but also people

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 1>getting married on your show. I mean, overall, the show

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>in that regard was not a success and so far

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the Golden Bachelor's Oh, for one, they made it a

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.719
<v Speaker 1>month and so but can it work? Sure? And if

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a couple coming successful out of it. Sure,

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>it can. You have you know, it's lightning in a bottle.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>You have to get really lucky. A lot of things

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>have to happen when you're talking about one couple, and

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I'll defend the show in this way

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>because you know, Bachelor in Paradise, for example, it was

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot easier to form couples because we have thirteen

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>guys thirteen girls. Well, we have thirteen opportunities to make

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>it work, and the pressure is not on you. I

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know the gentleman's name, whoever the Golden Bachelor was,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>but that's one guy. He you have one shot, well, right,

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>but they all get it work and that's it.

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>But they also spend a lot of time picking that

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 2>one person. I mean, there should be a lot of

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 2>time in thought into casting that one person. I will

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>say this, I thought about it. I heard the news.

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Obviously you didn't miss the news, but I we didn't

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 2>watch the show at all. So I'm I'm weighing in

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>on this without having seen even a clip from this show.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the show was like portrayed, very

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 2>wholesome or if it was very drama E. I didn't

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>know how they were going to approach it, since it's

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>these like older people who and who have been through

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot, if it was wholesomey like I will say,

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this marriage did not last long. It was

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>like a Kim Kardashian a couple months situation.

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 1>A carton of milk that's lasted longer.

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 2>But that did not look good.

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think our perception of this show, and I

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>think everybody's perception was it would be this wholesome. Of

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>course it's going to work. Everybody's here for the quote

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>unquote right reasons in this golden phase of right.

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 2>And there are people who've been many people widows and

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean widowers, no widows because there was more women.

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>But so you would think that these older people would

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 2>have like some perspective on life and really be looking

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>for for the person. So the fact that it only

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>lasted a couple months, I thought, Okay, that doesn't look

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>good for like what the what I thought the vibe

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 2>of the show was. Now that being said, I don't know,

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe the fact that it only lasted a couple months

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>means older people can be just as dramatic as younger people,

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and maybe it's going to be a really good dramatic show.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say maybe the lesson in the takeaway

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>here is with age doesn't come wisdoms necessarily necessarily all

0:28:58.280 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Rebecca, Oh, this is an interesting question. I've never asked

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you this, Chris, who did you like on the Bachelor franchise,

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 2>even though America might have hated that person.

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a guy and a girl. The guy

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Brad Womack. Brad, Yeah, because he didn't choose anybody, and

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>he did it twice and left h solo of both times. Yeah,

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>so he just got a bad rap and and and

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and he was. He's such a sweet guy, maybe one

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>of the nicest guys that's ever come through the show.

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, We've talked to nauseum about what a good

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>guy is and how we are close friends. He's somebody

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>that I tried to defend and I will defend another

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>one who got a bat herap. She's definitely come around

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>as America's sweetheart and favorite now. But Michelle Money at

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the time, she wasn't the bacherette, but she was on. Ironically,

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I think she was on Brad Womack's show. She was

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of seen as this kind of snarky. She came

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>off her sense of humor came off wrong, and she

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>was really really vilified early on, and I had to

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>defend her at the Women tell All because she was

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>getting crushed. And I always thought she was a really

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>lovely woman. We've been very good friends. And now her

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and Mike Weir are life partners, the golfer the pro golfer,

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>which yeah they are. They got married. And she's just

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a real gem of a human being and a giver

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>and a lover, and she always was but her. I

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>always appreciated her smart ass sense of humor. It didn't

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>go over well on America.

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 2>That's like why they say that comedies are hard to

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 2>translate into different countries because comedy is so interpretive, like

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>versus action movies. So I could see that how a

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>sense of humor could especially because things are cut and

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 2>edited and shortened. Did she get along well with the

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>other women she was on the show?

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Some? I mean some that usually yeah, paint you know

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>how it is at the tell all, you they kind

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of turn on her. Then later they're like, oh, she's great. Well,

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>but they were crushing her at the tell All though.

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Again I didn't watch that season. It's funny because I

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>only knew Michelle, like since you and I started dating,

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>as being so lovely, so sweet, and I knew you

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>were friends and I one thing I appreciate about you

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 2>is that you show up for people like both your

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and you really stick by people even if they are

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>being crushed by others. Like you told me later, didn't

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you go and do some charity stuff like from Michelle's dad?

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>What was that?

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Way too young? And so we all went to Salt

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Lake City and appeared for her and supported her for

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that charity. It was phenomenal. And yeah, so she's a

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>real gem and but she's somebody her and her and

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Brad Walmeck. I was trying to think of others that

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>have been vilified over the years that I've kept in

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>touch with, and I was wondering if you could think.

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Of any uh, well, some I think they were vilified

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>at the time, but now they've just grown up and

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>so it's nice to see them get a second chapter.

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>But so I don't think it fun.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even Mesnik was crushed, but you know everybody

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>once I think he realized, well, I'd put.

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Both Mesnick and Ari in those categories are lined. I crushed.

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>At the time, you probably knew behind the scenes they

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>were good dudes, but they'd made mistakes in one of them.

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Jason married Molly and we had that very public televised

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>wedding and everybody was like, Okay, this is this is

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>working and this you know what he initially did with

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Melissa kind of it was the same with Ari. You

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>know what he did with Beca. It didn't go over well.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you see he and Lauren have forty kids

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're living their life and they're doing well and.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Ari, I think you know. And by the way, I

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>was one of the people who was like critiquing Ari

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>at the time on my show Roses and Rose. I

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 2>was because but I look back now and I think

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>he was like thrown into the show late. He didn't

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 2>know he was going to be with the Bachelor for

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 2>very long. He wasn't like prepared to go be on

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 2>reality TV again, and I think you could see that

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>in the show. And yeah, now him and Lauren are

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the success stories, and you officiated their wedding.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>But I appreciate that you stood by him too and

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>defended him all.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>The way to the altar. Yeah, married them in Hawaii.

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>That was a beautiful wedding. And he was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most tumultuous, kind of controversial choices of Bachelor because.

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Everyone went who.

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, we were going back and forth on who it

0:32:58.480 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>was going to be, and.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point point, I'd love for you to share.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can. I'm not telling you

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>to do it now. No, it's just there. I know

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<v Speaker 2>there are people over the years, like in those moments

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>when it was like who, because there were these front

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>runners and guys or women people loved for the leads,

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>and then they didn't become the lead. And I know

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 2>that the franchise never I mean as a journalist covering it,

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>they would never like say, and I don't know if

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>it was for privacy reasons for these people or what,

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>but they would never really answer why like this beloved

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>guy who seemed to be a fan favorite and seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to have it all wasn't chosen for the Bachelor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>can you give an a general response to why the

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>fans didn't get those answers?

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of reasons because there's so many

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>chefs in the kitchen. First of all, you're dealing with

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple of people at the top of the show,

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, the creator of the show, the head of

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the network, and then it would go all the way

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to the president of the network, and so this person

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>deciding the lead, Yeah, deciding the lead, and so so

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>many people would have an initial say and then another say,

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and so again there were just so many chefs in

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen that eventually sometimes the soup turns out great.

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes there's too much crap thrown in it and it

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 1>gets ruined.

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying, and that you know, maybe

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>one person who's like maybe closer to the show and

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 2>working on it more regularly, is like the fans love

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>this person and they're great, but then what by the

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>time it gets up to someone at the top, Yeah, they're.

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Like, but he doesn't have you know, but he doesn't have.

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 2>A doctorate, and we want someone smart this season, and

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 2>they're making those kinds of way in Yeah, And.

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>There's and there's some TV reasons of sometimes maybe a

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>person we've shown you and how they were edited on

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the show is not maybe how we think they would

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>be as the bachelor of Bacherette, and someone is a

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>better talker or better.

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Better contestant than they would be a lead.

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so there's a difference between being a good contestant,

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>being a good lead, and carrying the show. And there's

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>there's so many factors that go into it. You know.

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>I always said when people got mad, I'm like, I'm

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>glad you get mad, because that means you care about

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the show and you're vested in it, and that's wonderful

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>that you have an opinion. But just know that there's

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>so much that goes into it and it's not and

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I hate to use this phrase because it's it drives

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>me crazy sometimes, but it's nothing personal. A lot of

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>times it wasn't It wasn't personal. It's you know, there

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>was a business decision or who they thought, you know,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>was getting maybe two out of hand and they could

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>control better, who they could produce better.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Were there ever things when people were cleared to be contestants,

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>But then I don't know if there's an extra layer

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 2>of like digging deep on them before they became lead,

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and then like what things came to light and stuff

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>For sure, there was one very definite case where everybody

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>really thought and wanted one person and then I was

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>told later for legal reasons, this person cannot be the Bachelor.

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, gotcha, And so we had to move off,

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>and you can't say that. You can't say why that

0:35:55.840 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>person was excluded, and you can't explain it for legal reasons.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>You can't explain it either for defamation and all these

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>other issues. And so there's those things where you just

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>have to swallow it, and legally you got to move

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>on and pick another bachelor Bacherette, and so, but there's

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>also those things where I thought, this is the worst

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>choice in the world, and this is going to be

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a boring season, and then Sean Loh turns out to

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>be the best Bachelor ever, and so you just you

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>just never know. You never know what's going to resonate.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Which leads me to maybe our last question. That's really

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>good and I find this interesting because I want to

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 1>know what you think. Bo asked a very poignant question.

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you worry that your new show won't live up

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>to expectations?

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, what do you think the expectations are?

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Drama?

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>If you've do you have an answer? It sounds like

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>you've been thinking about it for a second.

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I've thought about this and though it's a great question.

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a wonderful question, and I think this

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>says a lot about the way I think about things. No,

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't worry about it living up to expectations. I've

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>never I don't do things worrying if they're going to fail.

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I live life actually kind of daring to fail. And

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's an important distinction to make, and it's

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a great way to live doing things like what would

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>you do if you knew you couldn't fail? That's how

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I live. And so this show could fail, it could

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>be bad, it could also be the greatest show ever

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it's or somewhere in between. You can't do things only

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>if you know they're going to succeed, or thinking I'm

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>only going to do it if it wins, because then

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you're just going to guard yourself against failure all the time.

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's not how great things are made. That's not

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>how great art is made.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>You just hit the nail on the head. I think

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>that's such a topic in Hollywood period right now, not

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 2>just for us. I've seen so many headlines lately, people

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>like Emily Blunt weighing in and saying that like Hollywood

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 2>is in such a dangerous spot right now, because literally

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 2>whether shows are greenlit or not is being decided by algorithms. Yeah,

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>like streamers saying, well, we plugged it into our algorithm

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and we don't think that will be a hit. So no,

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 2>And if Hollywood had operated like that for the past

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred years that it's been around, Citizen Kane, a three hour,

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, black and white movie about a sled, wouldn't

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 2>have been made, The Godfather.

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't have been made, Shawshank Redemption.

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, all these movies that are classics and TV

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 2>shows wouldn't have been made. And art is about touching people,

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think an algorithm can read into how

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 2>to do that. And I think you're so right that

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>you have to make something that you feel as good

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and then hope that it resonates with people. You can't

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>make something trying. It's like trying to make a clip

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>go viral, Like that's going to be a lot harder

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 2>than just you captured a really emotional, incredible clip and

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 2>it touched people.

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>And bo I have made things that I thought were

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable in my mind, and I left thinking they were

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.439
<v Speaker 1>great and they didn't go well, and then I've made

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>things that I thought were just okay, and they turned

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>out to be the biggest shows in television history. So

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just, you know, that's the other thing. There's no

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>way to predict, and so you have to do what

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you think is right. You make those choices as a producer,

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 1>as a host, and that goes into music, it goes

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>into everything. You have to dare to be great and

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>take those shots. And then that's the kind of the

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>scary thing about our business is then you just you

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>wake up the next morning and you hope people watched.

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>And I also know that you know people are going

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>to take shots at it. People come after you when

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you know heavy as head that where's the crown? Well,

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what happens too. People are going to take shots.

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's fine. That emotion and that fervor from people

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 1>is a good thing. I want you to feel something

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>about it. All good art makes you feel something. It

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>might make you feel angry, excited, mad, sad, whatever it is.

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Empathy is what kills. I want that feeling so bo.

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>That is a great deeper question and I very much

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Good note to end on, everybody, go out there.

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 2>And make something you love, make something you feel good about.

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 1>What would you attempt to do if you knew you

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>could not fail?

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I know you have that on them. I do a

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>right over there quote on our desk from next to

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 2>the picture of your grandfather exactly. She's very swirting.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys so much, Thank you, We love you,

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>love the questions. Really appreciate it, and we will do

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<v Speaker 1>it again next time because we have a lot more

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.840
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