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Speaker 1: that you want us all to subscribe to. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're flying back and watching film. The next day, you're

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Speaker 1: partying with your buddies in Ohio at a bar and

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Speaker 1: probably doing some things you shouldn't. And it's hard for

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Speaker 1: me to sign up for you and be all in

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Speaker 1: when you're the head coach. I mean, you're the example setter,

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Speaker 1: and that's the example. Like, I don't know, And there

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Speaker 1: were some talk things, yeah, And there was some talk

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Speaker 1: this morning too, Fad that there was some speculation as

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Speaker 1: to whether or not he gave Shotcom the full truth

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Speaker 1: in terms of what he did and did not do

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Speaker 1: in Ohio. And I mean, if I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say he did misconstrue the full tale of the events

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Speaker 1: that went on, but if he did, like now you've apologized,

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Speaker 1: but you haven't given me the full story too. If

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Speaker 1: that's the case, man, I don't know how you come

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Speaker 1: back from that now if he lied to the owner,

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Speaker 1: If I'm shot Con, I cut bait, because there's no

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Speaker 1: reason to keep that around if you can't trust the

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Speaker 1: coach you just hired four weeks ago to be straight

448
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Speaker 1: with you when you're when you're you know, pretty much

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Speaker 1: laying it out. Look, you know we're not gonna fire you.

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Speaker 1: You know, we want you to obviously fix this, but

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna move forward together? If you can't be

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Speaker 1: honest in that situation, then when are you going to

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Speaker 1: be honest? But going back to what you said about

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Speaker 1: you know, can the players follow this guy? Can you

455
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Speaker 1: ever remember an NFL head coach being out everywhere anywhere?

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Speaker 1: I mean, forget about doing something morally questionable while you're

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Speaker 1: doing it. Dive see Sean McDermott grabbing a beer. You

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Speaker 1: ever see Mike Tomlin out in Pittsburgh? You know, you

459
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Speaker 1: ever see Andy Reid just kind of hang out in restaurants.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember a head coach, you know, being caught

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Speaker 1: just you know, doing whatever. I'm sure it happens. But

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Speaker 1: you know, these guys largely have you know, I think

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Speaker 1: made the case and lived up to it. That their

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Speaker 1: life is twenty four hours a day work there there,

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Speaker 1: you know, cots in the office type guys. So the

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Speaker 1: fact that Urban Meyer is even you know, shooting the

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Speaker 1: bowl of friends. I get it was a Thursday game

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Speaker 1: and you probably a looks your time. Whatever this is.

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Speaker 1: This is something that NFL coaches generally are not known

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Speaker 1: for and certainly not caught on film doing hardly. Ever, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we do want to get into the Twitter conversation today.

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Speaker 1: As we told you, we will be Bill's chief Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football focus today and what we thought would be

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Speaker 1: interesting to bring to the table was who brings something

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Speaker 1: different to the matchup with the Chiefs this year to

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Speaker 1: help get the Bills to win. It doesn't necessarily have

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Speaker 1: to be someone who is new to the roster. Could

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Speaker 1: be somebody who's emerging and playing a bigger role than

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Speaker 1: maybe any of us anticipated, or at least a bigger

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Speaker 1: role than they played on this team last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's somebody like Dawson Knox who's suddenly a matchup

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Speaker 1: that maybe the Chiefs have to worry about defensively. But

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Speaker 1: it could be you know, the improved pass rush, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean it showed up in Week two. I know

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Speaker 1: they've been getting sacks here and there over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks also, But I think everybody would agree

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Speaker 1: across the board it's certainly better than it was last year.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's Star being back in the fold after the

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Speaker 1: op out year. So let us know who you feel

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Speaker 1: brings something different to the matchup with the chief Sunday

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Speaker 1: night that will help the Bills get a victory eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty to get on board. Get an

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Speaker 1: open line for you there, or you can hit us

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Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of choices that when you think about

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Speaker 1: people who have stepped into larger roles this year. The

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Speaker 1: newcomers probably are numerous, as we know, because there are

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of new starters on the offensive and

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Speaker 1: defensive sides of the ball. But there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: choose from here in terms of tipping the balance and

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Speaker 1: giving the Bills a better shot at a victory at

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Speaker 1: Arrowheads Sunday. Yeah, the guy I'm thinking about off the

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Speaker 1: top of my head, and you know, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: There are multiple choices. But I like that Oliver, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's he's made his impact felt a

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Speaker 1: little better the first few weeks. We saw it a

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Speaker 1: lot more against Houston this past weekend, and when people

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Speaker 1: talked about young pass rushers needing to step up and

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Speaker 1: maybe make a difference when it comes to attacking the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I always included at Oliver in that group. He's this

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Speaker 1: was a guy that was pretty good with that in

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Speaker 1: his rookie year, not so much sophomore season, and I

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Speaker 1: thought he still had the certainly the tools and the

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Speaker 1: capability to be that this year. I think you've seen

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Speaker 1: a little bit of it, and especially in the game

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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, where you know Pat Mahomes is gonna

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Speaker 1: have no problem finding open targets quickly. I want the

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Speaker 1: guy who's in the middle, who's closer to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: when the ball is snapped, to be my best option

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Speaker 1: rushing the past that Oliver, you know, probably is that.

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Speaker 1: Although Startlotolo pretty darn good against Houston, you know, Oliver

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Speaker 1: is the guy to me that I look at as

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Speaker 1: potentially having an impact on Sunday because you know, as

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Speaker 1: you know, exciting as Greg Rousseau has been as great

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Speaker 1: as aj F and SA was against the Dolphins, I

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Speaker 1: don't think those young guys, even Boogie Basham, have been

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Speaker 1: consistent enough to be able to look at them in

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Speaker 1: a big game like this against the Chiefs and say

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Speaker 1: they are going to be the ones to make a difference. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And while I do think that Rousseau has a somewhat

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Speaker 1: favorable matchup at right tackle with Lucas Nyang, who I

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Speaker 1: think is one of the weak links on that new

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Speaker 1: offensive line that they're trying to put together. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you want to look at a guy that either a

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Speaker 1: is a veteran b is playing a larger role than

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Speaker 1: maybe he did in years past. That's why I think

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox is really an intriguing choice here, And I

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Speaker 1: might even go that way, haven't. I haven't come down

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Speaker 1: on it definitively, but he's the first guy that came

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Speaker 1: to mind, because no matter what anybody thinks of him,

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Speaker 1: the production is undeniable. I mean, four touchdowns in his

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Speaker 1: last three games. He's a proven red zone threat, and

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Speaker 1: I think that he's at a point now with the

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Speaker 1: film that he's put out there this year, where defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinators have to account for him. There has to be

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Speaker 1: some kind of plan where you can't just say, well,

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Speaker 1: we take care of Diggs and neutralize Beasley. You know,

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Speaker 1: we should be able to slow down their passing game

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Speaker 1: enough to get him off the field and have him punt.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case anymore because of the

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Speaker 1: presence of Sanders, who I think is another consideration. In

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Speaker 1: this argument, but I think Knox two. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the Bill's defense has added dimensions to their passing game,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that the Chiefs are going to

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Speaker 1: be able to account for them all all the time,

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Speaker 1: especially when you consider the fact that and I was

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Speaker 1: just checking this because I was watching the Chiefs Eagles

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Speaker 1: game on NFL game Pass this morning, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: where the heck is Rashad Fenton, Where's Charvarius Ward? And

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Speaker 1: both of those guys were out last week with injuries,

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Speaker 1: Fenton with a hamstring, Ward with a quad, so both

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Speaker 1: of them were inactive. Fenton also has a concussion. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Frank Clark has a hamstring injury too, he

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Speaker 1: didn't play either, So those are gonna need some monitoring.

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Speaker 1: And if they're shorthanded like that again this week with

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Speaker 1: all the extra weapons that the Bills can put out

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Speaker 1: on the field, I think that's a big problem for

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Speaker 1: them on a defense that has been downright atrocious that

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Speaker 1: through the first four weeks, and they looked exactly that

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Speaker 1: bad against Philadelphia too. The first three weeks they played

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Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Ravens and even the Browns, who

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Speaker 1: you know don't do it the passing way, but are

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Speaker 1: still a pretty efficient offer so far the season. So

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Speaker 1: they you know, they've they've been tested, you know, big

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Speaker 1: time defensively. The Eagles are not that though. The Egles

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Speaker 1: have scored fourteen against Dallas, who might be good, but

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Speaker 1: a whole different discussion. So there's no doubt that the

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Speaker 1: Bills have an opportunity here. M one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I didn't go Dust and Knoxes just seemed too obvious.

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Speaker 1: I figured I leave that for them to talk about.

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Speaker 1: But um, you know, I wanted to, you know, go

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Speaker 1: off the board a little bit. But yeah, Knox has

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Speaker 1: been a whole lot better earlier this year. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: Sanders is a good point too. Um. I think he's

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Speaker 1: certainly been better earlier this season than than John Brown

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Speaker 1: was at all last year and maybe even going back

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Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen. Um, in terms of the divension he's

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Speaker 1: opened up for the Bills both down the field, you know,

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Speaker 1: and as a separator you know, underneath a little more so. Um,

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Speaker 1: the Bills offense has been humming, you know, mostly the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks. The thing is against the Chiefs. Last year,

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Speaker 1: at least the Chiefs did a nice job of taking

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Speaker 1: digs away without really committing a ton of coverage his way.

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Speaker 1: So if you can do that, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, Dawson Knox is facing a little more traditional

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Speaker 1: tight end approach. You got more guys for other receivers.

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Speaker 1: M it makes it certainly easier for the Chiefs to

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Speaker 1: contend with the Bills. It did last year. Um, repeating

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Speaker 1: that performance again next weekend or this weekend probably is

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Speaker 1: a tough ask. But that's what I saw last year.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, we'll see I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: Knox is four games in, you know, and this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that was you know, in training camp, had

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Speaker 1: a rough camp. Um, you know, the drop seemed to

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Speaker 1: still be there. But happy to see him, you'll have success.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, if he can just be that

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Speaker 1: weapon in the red zone, because the receivers the Bills

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Speaker 1: have the primary guys are not these big, tall red

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Speaker 1: zone guys. Even saw against the Texans, Dave Davis came

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Speaker 1: in and had a lot of snaps inside the twenty.

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Speaker 1: So they're looking for red zone options. If Knock can

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Speaker 1: be that, it really can make a big difference with

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Speaker 1: the Bills inside the twenty. Right, And while I think

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Speaker 1: everybody would agree it's a step up in class, certainly

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Speaker 1: from the Texans. I don't know that the way this

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Speaker 1: Chiefs defense is playing if the step up in class

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Speaker 1: is terribly high, I mean it's certain. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: offense is one thing, but I am amazed at where

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Speaker 1: this Chief's defense is languishing. Now, could they always pull

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Speaker 1: it together in a given week and play lights out? Sure? Sure,

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Speaker 1: I mean we saw that in the AFC title game.

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Speaker 1: Really when you think about it, so it's certainly possible

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Speaker 1: for a veteran team like them to pull a lights

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Speaker 1: out performance together. But until I see it, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to be convinced. So I'm intrigued to see what

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Speaker 1: they're able to put out there on the field. Plenty

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Speaker 1: more for us to discuss here on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: as we are anticipating the arrival of one Kyle Brand

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Speaker 1: from NFL Network. He'll be coming up in the second

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Speaker 1: hour of the show. Look forward to checking in with him.

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Speaker 1: He had a Bills nominee and his angry runs again

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Speaker 1: this week, although he did not win the award, but

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Speaker 1: we can get into that with him, along with a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of other things, including this Giant Sunday Night Tilt.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Thad Brown with you here on a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Plenty more to come, including some comments coming up next

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Speaker 1: from Brian Dable and Leslie Frazier. The coordinators addressed the

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Speaker 1: media late yesterday afternoon. We'll bring you the highlights of

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Speaker 1: those conversations next here on one Bills Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Brown and w r OCTV sports director of Thad Brown

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Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday, one Bills Live. And we wanted

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Speaker 1: to pass along some of the more notable comments from

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Speaker 1: the coordinators yesterday as Brian Dable and Leslie Fraser addressed

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Speaker 1: the media as they do every Monday after Sunday games,

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Speaker 1: and Fad and I were just talking about the emergence

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Speaker 1: and progression of Dawson Knox here in year three. Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable was not surprisingly asked about that as well, after

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Speaker 1: Knox is racked up four touchdowns in his last three games.

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Speaker 1: So here is Buffalo's offensive coordinator on Dawson Knox's progress.

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Speaker 1: It's a hard position to play, regardless of the league

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Speaker 1: that you're playing in, but certainly in the National Football

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Speaker 1: League and you know, his story as well documented from

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Speaker 1: a walk on the quarterback to all these type of

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Speaker 1: things to play in a little bit of a different system.

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Speaker 1: You know, just like a lot of college kids that

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Speaker 1: come out get drafted or free agents, there's i'd say

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Speaker 1: there's a learning curve and probably every position, but really

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Speaker 1: this position is you know, have a closer here for

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Speaker 1: for a while here before I came here. It's it's

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Speaker 1: there's so many things that entail the responsibilities of a

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Speaker 1: tight end, and a lot of times those guys get,

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Speaker 1: you know, get they get pulled in different directions. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna meet with the run game. Now we're gonna

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Speaker 1: read it the pass game. You're getting less and less

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Speaker 1: individual time. And you know, first and foremost, I give

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Speaker 1: credit to Dawson to just grinding it out. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's almost here like a quarterback. How much he's here,

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Speaker 1: he's meeting with Rob, He's spent an extra time individual

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Speaker 1: And again we've talked about this before. You're going to

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Speaker 1: have some hardships when you come into this league. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have them when you're a ten year VET or

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Speaker 1: a twenty year whatever it may be. This is not

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Speaker 1: an easy It's not an easy profession to be consistent

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Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that go into it, and he's certainly done, you know,

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Speaker 1: his share to try to put him in the best

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Speaker 1: possible position he can put himself into with the you know,

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Speaker 1: standing that we still got. You know, we've still got

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to clean up and be better at,

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Speaker 1: you know, but he's made he's made significant progress, and

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Speaker 1: I know he'd like to make more progress. But I

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Speaker 1: think he has our trust, and I know he's got

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks trust, and you know, we'll just take it.

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Speaker 1: Each day. He's doing better and better, you know. I

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Speaker 1: think it's still underestimated said by the general fan base,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not necessarily saying Bill's fans specifically. When a

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Speaker 1: guy like him makes a relatively late position change terms

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Speaker 1: of late in his career prior to playing here at

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Speaker 1: the highest level, you make a position change, you get

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Speaker 1: limited exposure at that position, as we know, we only

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Speaker 1: call like thirteen fifteen balls in his college career after

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Speaker 1: moving to tight end, and then you have to perfect

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Speaker 1: that position at the highest level of competition the sport offers.

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Speaker 1: I think it's only natural role for it to take

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Speaker 1: some time, and so when there are hiccups or setbacks

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Speaker 1: that are front and center on a Sunday for millions

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Speaker 1: of people to see on television, you're going to be

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Speaker 1: the subject of criticism. But I think it's still underappreciated

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Speaker 1: the transition and the commitment it requires to make that

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Speaker 1: transition a successful one. And even what Brian Dable said,

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Speaker 1: they're about the way tight end works too. You know

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Speaker 1: other positions, you know, running backs primarily just have to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, read holes. Yeah there's blitz pick up involved,

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Speaker 1: but it's primarily what you do. Receivers do the same

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Speaker 1: thing you've been doing, you know, your entire life, your

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Speaker 1: read defenses, you get open, you catch the ball. Tight

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Speaker 1: Ends have to do the receiving job, and they have

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Speaker 1: to do the offensive line job, being able to be

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Speaker 1: a functional part of an outside zone blocking scheme and

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Speaker 1: pick up blitzes and you know, do everything that the

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Speaker 1: offensive line has to do. So just logically, there's more

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Speaker 1: going on. So it would make more sense that a

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Speaker 1: tight end would, you know, take a little more time

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Speaker 1: to develop. And you know, Knox has never been in

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Speaker 1: a position which I'm assuming Kyle Pitts is doing in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta right now, where they're just just go out and

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Speaker 1: be a receiver and being a weapon there. We'll worry

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Speaker 1: about the blocking stuff later. Knox has had to be

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Speaker 1: a legit part of the blocking scheme from day one,

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't surprise It shouldn't surprise that it might

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Speaker 1: take a little longer for him develop. And really, the

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Speaker 1: other thing that I think people don't give enough credit

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Speaker 1: to in the NFL is that there's any number of

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Speaker 1: reasons why the light might go on. It doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to be the year one to year two jump or

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Speaker 1: the year two to year three jump that we hear

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Speaker 1: about all the time. It can happen at any point.

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander was a career special teamer until he came

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo in year eleven whatever it was, and then

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Speaker 1: became a pretty legitimate pass rushing threat. So it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of different things that go into it. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: any number of ways the light bulb can go on,

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Speaker 1: and for a tight end to take a little longer

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Speaker 1: to develop, there really shouldn't be a shock just logically

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Speaker 1: what the tight end position has to deal with when

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Speaker 1: they get to the NFL. Yeah, and Knox is just

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Speaker 1: another shining example of what this coaching staff does in

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Speaker 1: terms of player development. And we can run down the list,

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Speaker 1: which would include even the guys that had to step

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Speaker 1: in last week. I mean Cam Lewis undrafted rookie free

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Speaker 1: agent three years ago and briefly retook the starting nickel

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Speaker 1: job from Tarn Johnson last year in Week five or six.

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Speaker 1: It was when they played the Chiefs, broke his wrist

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Speaker 1: and then was never heard from again, you know, lost

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. He comes up off

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Speaker 1: the practice squad last league and last week has a

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Speaker 1: pretty solid game. Same thing for Jaquan Johnston. He's been

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Speaker 1: waiting his turn for three years, but he's been working

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Speaker 1: on his personal game. They keep developing guy. I just

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Speaker 1: think there's a there's a focus here on the guys

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Speaker 1: that don't start that this coaching staff takes an interest in.

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Speaker 1: Where I would say ten fifteen years ago, the unyielding

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Speaker 1: focus was on getting the starters ready to play, and

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Speaker 1: while I understand that has to be priority number one,

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Speaker 1: it was almost as if everybody who wasn't starting was

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Speaker 1: an afterthought, and it's well, you're on your own if

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Speaker 1: you want to improve your personal game kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying that's across the board, but

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Speaker 1: I just like a lot of staffs that came through

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Speaker 1: here prior to McDermott's staff did not invest the time

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Speaker 1: or the effort that you see this staff with their

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Speaker 1: second and third tier players on the depth chart, and

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Speaker 1: I think they're they're reaping the benefits to that. Now.

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Speaker 1: One part of that, too, is this staff has been

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Speaker 1: largely unchanged for a year five. That's a valid, a huge,

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Speaker 1: a huge, huge difference when you know think about it.

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Speaker 1: You talk about coaching staffs having to get the starters ready, Well,

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Speaker 1: when new coaching staff comes in, there's always a period

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Speaker 1: of getting to know the starters, what works for the starters?

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Speaker 1: What how do I press the right buttons on Thursday

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Speaker 1: to get this guy to do what I want to

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Speaker 1: on Sunday? How do I just teach them the formations

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Speaker 1: and the things I want them to do X and Oise. Well,

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Speaker 1: when you can move past that, when you don't have

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Speaker 1: to do that with Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde and

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Speaker 1: tre Davis White, even Levi Wallace anymore, well, then you

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Speaker 1: can spend some extra time on cam Lewis and Jaquan

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Speaker 1: Johnson and get them ready to go. So I think again,

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Speaker 1: this this just goes to show you the value of

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Speaker 1: having the continuity of the Bills have. And it's not

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Speaker 1: just head coach Cordina to coordinator, it's up and down

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Speaker 1: the staff. I mean, you know, John Butler has been

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Speaker 1: here for years, so you know, the Babbage guys have

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Speaker 1: been here for years. And this is largely the guts

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Speaker 1: of what you know is defensive teaching for the for

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Speaker 1: the Bills, and it makes a big, big difference. And

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Speaker 1: you know, Chris, I'd be remission not to say that.

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Speaker 1: I mean me and you probably would look good playing

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Speaker 1: safety against the Detections on Sundays. Wow, okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: you can get there. I've seen your back pedal, you

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Speaker 1: can get down. You know, good hits very fluid. I

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Speaker 1: think you'd have a chance. Okay, all right, Yeah you

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Speaker 1: want to try it. I don't know if I'd recommend it,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, you throw it out there. Sure. Uh. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of continuity, this is going to be the third head

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Speaker 1: to head matchup in the matching of wits between Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable and Steve Spagnolo. In terms of that Chief's defense,

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Speaker 1: I think most people would agree that the Chiefs kind

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Speaker 1: of got the better of Buffalo's offense each of the

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Speaker 1: last two times they faced each other. So here is

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable addressing the difficulty of preparing for Spagnolo defense.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the best in the business, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we have to really do a good job of executing

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Speaker 1: fundamentals and techniques, and you know, do our job the

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Speaker 1: best way we can do it. You can prepare as

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Speaker 1: much as you know you can prepare, and you can

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Speaker 1: look at all the different looks. You know, certainly, you

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Speaker 1: know it's hard to really say what he's going to

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Speaker 1: do or when he's going to do it, because he

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00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: keeps you guestsing a lot, and it's going to fall

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Speaker 1: back on again without having game planing or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: It usually falls back on fundamentals, techniques, communication and playing

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Speaker 1: together well and you know, and playing well against their

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Speaker 1: good players, which they have a lot of them on defense.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing to me that stands out the

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Speaker 1: most in the two meetings with the Chiefs last year

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Speaker 1: was their ability to fluster Josh Allen in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: It was the most unsettled or unsure that I think

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Speaker 1: I had seen him all of last year. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's probably in one or two other games. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: the magnitude of the games that it sticks out in

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Speaker 1: my head, but there were times where it was clear

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Speaker 1: that Josh was not comfortable with what he was seeing

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Speaker 1: from a coverage perspective. Part of that was due to

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Speaker 1: the pressure they got on him at times, but I

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Speaker 1: think also they did a good job of spinning the

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Speaker 1: dial on the back end on him, you know. And

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Speaker 1: anytime there's a Tyran Matthew back there, you always got

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Speaker 1: to be careful too, so you're wary of that, but

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Speaker 1: I was. And I'll get to this after you chime

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Speaker 1: in on this, because I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about what the Chargers did with the Chiefs a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago and why they were able to win

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Speaker 1: there in Kansas City. But maybe just addressed that first,

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Speaker 1: he was flustered last year against those Chiefs fronts, you know.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, to me, I thought the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: got flustered as well. I mean, there was I think

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Speaker 1: the first the first field goal that people debate about

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Speaker 1: whether Sean mcdermish gone on fourth and goal forth and

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Speaker 1: short or kick. There were three plays run inside the ten,

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Speaker 1: and it looked to me like Stefan Diggs was being

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Speaker 1: used as a decoy in all three. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: was left side, isolated and Josh Allen never once looked

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Speaker 1: his way. And to me, you got that guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: you at least have to make him a part of

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Speaker 1: the opportunity of the game plan. Now, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to sit here and try and dive into

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Speaker 1: why Alan read whatever he did, but you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not just Alan looking uncomfortable. It didn't feel like the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff had the comfort or the the ability to

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Speaker 1: do what they normally do to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: work a defense, and I think Steve Spagnal deserves a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit for that. I think games at this

856
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Speaker 1: level in a lot of ways. You know, Brian Dabele

857
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: talked about fundamentals and execution. I get all that, and

858
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's right about it. But to me, I

859
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: think a lot of this game on Sunday is going

860
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: to be you know, can the Bills coaches press better buttons?

861
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs coaches. These are all smart guys, all

862
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: experienced guys who have played a thousand games at this level.

863
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: At this match of this magnitude. So sometimes it's just

864
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: a chest chess match. You know, if I moved my

865
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: piece here and you move your piece there, am I right?

866
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Or are you right? And if the Bills do win

867
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: more of those, then I think they win the game.

868
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Speaker 1: And I think last year, especially Spagnolo either I don't

869
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: want to say gotten a dable's head, but certainly had

870
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: the better of this scheming when it comes to, you know,

871
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: making the Bills have to work for what they want

872
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: to do. You know, they forced the Bills to go

873
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: underneath a lot. I don't think they were able to

874
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: do it as comfortably they normally do. The pressure made

875
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: a difference. But you know, without being able to dive

876
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: into game plans and flip through a book, you know,

877
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: it looked to me like Steve Spagnolo just had Brian

878
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Dabele on tilt pretty much from the moment it was

879
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: nine to seven and that AFC Championship game and never

880
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: never let up. All right, we have to take a

881
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: break here, but when we come back, we'll get to

882
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: some comments from defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier, who talks about

883
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Speaker 1: the depth in his secondary which was revealed this past

884
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: week against the Houston Texans. We'll get to that when

885
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Speaker 1: we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kali

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00:42:53,280 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Inside the Numbers is

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00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: brought to you by the New York Lottery. Get out

888
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: there and play. The Bills have had three straight games

889
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: with multi touchdown addings, all by different players. Dawson Knox

890
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: with a couple of touchdowns against Houston, Zach Moss with

891
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: a couple at Miami, Emmanuel Sanders with a couple against Washington.

892
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: It's something the team also did in the final three

893
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: games of the twenty twenty season. Josh Allen at Denverse

894
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: to Fond Digs with those three touchdowns at New England

895
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: on Monday night, Isaiah McKenzie with the trifect against Miami

896
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: in week seventeen, and Antonio Williams that same game and

897
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns as well. Pretty cool New York

898
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Speaker 1: Lotteries Inside the Numbers this week, John Butler and Bobby

899
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: they do, Oh, is Leslie Fraser talking already, somebody's talking.

900
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll get to him in a second,

901
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: Leslie hold on, Yeah, So we are going to get

902
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: to Leslie Fraser here and Leslie was asked about the

903
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: performances naturally of cam Lewis and Jaquan Johnson who had

904
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: to step in and fill starting roles in place of

905
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Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer and Tarn Johnson respectively, who Coach McDermot by

906
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Speaker 1: the way he said, we're day to day coming into

907
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Speaker 1: this week off of their respective injuries. But here is

908
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: coach Frasier's take on the quality of the depth in

909
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: his secondary, John Butler and Bobby they do a great

910
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: job when our secondary, along with Jimmy's helgato with our

911
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: Nickels and really having those guys that are not the

912
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: primetime players not to start as having those guys ready

913
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: to play. With cam Lewis stepping in and playing as

914
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: well as he played yesterday, and of course to Quan

915
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: who were talking about stepping in and playing as well

916
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: as he did. You have to credit their position coaches

917
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: for putting in the work and really helping them behind

918
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: the scenes to go out and play with confidence and

919
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: go out and excel as well as they did. So

920
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: it is in some ways a little bit of a

921
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: farm system. Just having those guys that are in backup

922
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: was many to go yeah and It's interesting and I

923
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: gotta say, fed pretty darn convenient when you have a

924
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Speaker 1: guy in cam Lewis who can't make the fifty three

925
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: man roster for various reasons. I mean, it's obvious they

926
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Speaker 1: kept Surrand Neil because of his special team's prowess over

927
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Speaker 1: cam Lewis, but when it comes to playing Nichols specifically,

928
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: they prefer to have cam Lewis on the field. I

929
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Speaker 1: just thought that was an interesting dynamic going into last

930
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Speaker 1: week's game. You brought up last segment two. This is

931
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Speaker 1: a guy, cam Lewis, who had won the job from

932
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Speaker 1: Taren Johnson last year and you know, had proven at

933
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: least to the coaches that he can play regularly as

934
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Speaker 1: the nickel in the NFL. And when it comes to

935
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Speaker 1: you know, the construction of this roster. We've talked about

936
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: this for a couple of years. This Bill's roster has

937
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: now become darn near impossible to crack. I mean, they

938
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: released good players after every training camp. You know, the

939
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: practice squads are guys that would probably you know, have

940
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be regular players. And a lot of

941
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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, and especially you know, when it

942
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: comes to at least the corner part of the secondary.

943
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: I think safety. We still need some proof because Jordan

944
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Poyer Micah had never missed games, So we don't know

945
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: if the backups really that good. But you know we've

946
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: seen you know, Cam Lewis playing off certainly sand Neil.

947
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: You know these guys are are you know, at least

948
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: competent if not higher level you know pros in the NFL. So,

949
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean we could wax on and on about all

950
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: different reasons for that. The Bills have had the same

951
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: coaches who are good coaches for years. Ergo you end

952
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: up with good players. Shocker, Yeah, no question about it.

953
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: We're not going to have time for Leslie Frasier's comment

954
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: on facing Patrick Mahomes this just in it's going to

955
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: be difficult, and uh coach Frasier did wax poetic on

956
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: having Star back in the lineup this year. I think

957
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 1: he's made an unquestionable difference, not only to their run front,

958
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: but he's made Ed I think, a better player on

959
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: the inside because of how they have to account for

960
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Star in the protections and the blocking schemes. So in short,

961
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier said it's great to have him back this season,

962
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that could factor in to our

963
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: Twitter conversation today who brings something different to the matchup

964
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs this year to help get the Bills

965
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: a win. Starr could be a guy that you could

966
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: argue for. But Dad and I have to take a

967
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: break here because when we come back from Good Morning Football,

968
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: set to make his weekly appearance, it is one Kyle Brandt.

969
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Stay tuned. He's coming up next here on One Bill's

970
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: Live presented by Khalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio

971
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Speaker 1: at a Steve taster who has spent all over the fields.

972
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

973
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: player for Steve. Steve a blimp. We're not even in

974
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: the strated beer of normalcy. All right Here we are

975
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: our number two on a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Thad Brown

976
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: here with you. Ready to welcome in from Good Morning Football,

977
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: One Kyle brand who makes his weekly appearance with us

978
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: here during the regular season. Kyle, good to have you.

979
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: Angry runs went well? I trust this morning we saw

980
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: that there was a Bill's nominee and before I let

981
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: you answer, I just want to say that to me,

982
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: it was reminiscent of the Jake the Snake DDT move. Now,

983
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: technically Josh would have to be facing said defender of

984
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: the Texans to pull off the true DDT and DDT fashion,

985
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: but for an on the run scramble move, it was

986
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: a pretty close, pretty close second in terms of maneuver there.

987
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think of the DDT reference.

988
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: This is why I love the show. We lead with

989
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: the DDT reference, and this is why I always have

990
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: your back, Browning because if you remember and the wrestling

991
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: heads out there will back me up on this. Jake

992
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: the Snake also had a setup move to his DDT

993
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: which was a short clothesline in which he would pull

994
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: the guy into a clothesline. And that's how that was

995
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: like the opening band from the DDT and then the

996
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: DDT would come. So it was almost like kind of

997
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: a combination of the two of them. And it's just like,

998
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: just when we think that Josh has shown us all

999
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: the things he's going to do that are strange and

1000
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: energetic on the field with his body, he gives us

1001
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: a reverse stiff arm to someone already behind him. It's

1002
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: kind of like flipping the bird to someone you've already

1003
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: passed in traffic like it's just insult to injury. He

1004
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: didn't need to bring that guy down with him. But

1005
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: like I said, he said, if I'm going down to

1006
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: guess who else is coming with me. I've never seen

1007
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: someone get pulled down from in front of them, And

1008
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: yet like all the things that he does in the field,

1009
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: I find it intoxicating. And Jake the Snake Roberts perfect reference.

1010
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: First he had Damian the snake, and then the earthquake

1011
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: sat on Damien and killed Damien. And then there was

1012
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: a replacement snake named Loose. That's the deal. They're just

1013
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: gonna try to sit on a snake named Mahomes this

1014
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: week for the fields. I can't imagine what the Peter

1015
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: would have done with that now this day and age.

1016
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: Apparently in the late eighties early nineties, it was fair game. Fad.

1017
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: I want to include you on this because when that

1018
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: play happened. I want to know what the chatter was

1019
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: around you in the press box Sunday, because two people

1020
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: next to me looked at me and said, can he

1021
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: even do that? Is that allowed? Did they do you

1022
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: have a similar conversation near youth that or well, remember

1023
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm on the field for the games, That's right. I

1024
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: got a little different perspective so well. I mean my

1025
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: perspective was unique in that I didn't even know Josh

1026
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: did this until twenty four or thirty hours later or

1027
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: something like that. And I'm my reaction was did he

1028
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: plan that? Or is that something that just happened in

1029
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: the moment, Like you're you're coming with me, and I guarantee,

1030
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: I know there's a really big football game coming up

1031
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: on Sunday, but I'm gonna ask Josh. I want to

1032
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: know what the origin of the on field DDT move

1033
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: was yesterday, Whether that was something you practice that, do

1034
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: you work on that with Davis Webban the media's not watching,

1035
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: or is that just spur the moment. I want to

1036
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: if I can. Yeah, But let's let's dive headlong, Kyle

1037
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: into Chiefs Bills. We are trying to knock around here

1038
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: with our listeners and viewers today. What new addition two

1039
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo's roster may help them get a win in Arrowhead

1040
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: something they haven't done since mcdermot's first year here in

1041
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. And that was Primahomes, that was Alex Smith

1042
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: quarterback days. And it doesn't necessarily have to be a

1043
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: new addition to the roster, like an Emmanuel Sanders. It

1044
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: could be somebody that's emerged. Dawson Knox came to mind

1045
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: for us. Emmanuel Sanders is obviously a factor in this conversation,

1046
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: the return of Star from an opt out year. So

1047
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know if anybody comes to mind for you,

1048
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: or even a unit at large on this Bill's roster

1049
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: that you think could swing the bar, don't tip the

1050
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: balance a little bit here this time around. It's a

1051
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: great question, and it's they're gonna need them all, aren't they.

1052
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to what we talked about

1053
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, Moss and Motor and anybody who's

1054
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: going to line up behind Josh like this, this is

1055
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: the week. This is Super Bowl fifty five and a half,

1056
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: This is the one. Now we did the Patriots Brady thing.

1057
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: This is the game, and you know, we were talking

1058
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: this morning and to your question, Brownie, the type of

1059
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: thing about you know, all these questions kick around, Well,

1060
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs don't play their best game and the

1061
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: Bills don't, who wins. It's so evenly matched. I really

1062
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: think it's finally one of these weeks where like, oh

1063
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, the Bills can run the ball, and they

1064
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: ran it right down the Chiefs throat. Because I used

1065
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: this word this morning. I used the word pulp to

1066
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: describe the Chiefs defense. It's pulp. It is a white,

1067
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: sloppy mess of a substance that isn't even technically a solid.

1068
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of a solid liquid hybrid. Last week, Jalen

1069
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: Hurtz and DeVante Smith did whatever they wanted against the Chiefs.

1070
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: The week before, Herbert whatever he wanted. The week before that,

1071
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens they got nothing right now, and they got

1072
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: some injured guys and some proud guys. That's fine. But

1073
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: this is the week that Bills say, we are going

1074
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: to take the curtain off our running game like the

1075
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: mad scientists in the laboratory. And you think it's gonna

1076
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: be Josh, this no up the middle into the pulp. Yes, pulp,

1077
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: it's like that oj with extra pulp. That's gonna go

1078
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: right up there. I want the running game. This is

1079
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: the week now. You know, you just talk about how

1080
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: much trouble the Chiefs have had a defensively, Oh my god,

1081
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: but you know they're what Claude Edwards Laire fumble and

1082
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: a questionable passionference call from being foreign. Oh potentially, is

1083
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: it maybe a little overrated? The wow, we know we're

1084
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Aren't the Chiefs anymore? There's concerned they may

1085
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: not know the money may be following this season. I

1086
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: know what you mean, because then you're like, oh, whatever,

1087
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs terrible. Just see Tyreek. Have you ever watched

1088
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey? I know what you mean by that. Here's

1089
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: where I come out, and this is why I picked

1090
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: the Bills to win the Super Bowl before the season.

1091
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Chiefs are an ascending team.

1092
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: I think they're an excellent team that I worry as peaked,

1093
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: they are not better than they were last year or

1094
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: the year before. If you were going to invest in

1095
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs right now, you wouldn't make any money because

1096
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be any return. Look

1097
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: at the teams that are ascending. It's not just Buffalo,

1098
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: it's the Chiefs, It's it's Rather, it's the Chargers, it

1099
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: is the Raiders, it is the Browns. All of these

1100
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: young teams are getting and by the way, these teams

1101
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: are beating the Chiefs now like the Chargers are beating them.

1102
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: Lamar is beating them. I look try, I try to

1103
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: look at what's next. The Chiefs are still excellent, don't

1104
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: get me wrong, They're all the way up here. Are

1105
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: they better than last year? No? Are they better than

1106
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: the year before? No? I think the Bills are. And

1107
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of teams in the FCT. That's

1108
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: why I think the Chiefs can be gotten. Yeah, and there.

1109
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: And they're defensive numbers. I mean, you can run down

1110
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: the list. They're all atrocious. It's objectively terrible. Right, they

1111
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: have played pretty good competition. I mean Cleveland and the Chargers,

1112
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, both ascending teams Baltimore. You know, teams

1113
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: that can put points on the board, teams that have

1114
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: offensive talent. But it is hard to get away from it,

1115
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 1: I mean opponents. And you mentioned the running game, Kyle,

1116
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: And the reason I want to mention this stat is

1117
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: for that very reason. Right now, the Chiefs defense is

1118
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: last in the league in allowing rushes for touchdowns. One

1119
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown every thirteen and a half carries. And I

1120
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: realize that's probably a very arbitrary number, but every thirteen

1121
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: and a half carries somebody's running it in against you.

1122
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: That's not good. Well, that means that's just math brown

1123
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: And we got to get twenty seven carries and that's

1124
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. That's thirteen point five times two. That's simple.

1125
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: And that's what you're talking about. That is like we

1126
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: thought we fixed this Chief's thing. This is a very

1127
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: hashtag twenty nineteen conversation. Man. The Chiefs are great on

1128
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: offense and Mahomes is a magician, but the defense is soft.

1129
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: They won't be able to win it. And they got

1130
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: this start comes in. It's fixed. It's not a thing anymore.

1131
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: We got Honey Badger and Frank Clark and all these affects,

1132
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: and they win the Super Bowl, and sure enough it was.

1133
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: It's a big time regression. And some of it has

1134
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: to do with injuries. Some of it has to do

1135
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: with age. But you can't tell me that now. Right

1136
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: now the Chiefs are oh my god, they're the Super

1137
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: Bowl favor. They're not. Maybe they will be in a

1138
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: month or so. Maybe they'll start playing better. But all

1139
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: we're doing, if you're saying that is based on years past,

1140
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look to the future, and I don't

1141
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: think they're better. I think they're worse than they were

1142
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: a year ago. I do. We've been talking a lot,

1143
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: Kyle about the Bills offense, chief defense part of this game.

1144
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: Let's flip at the other side, because lashing the SC

1145
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: CHAMPIONHI game, the Bills essentially never stopped the Chiefs. You know,

1146
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs stop themselves on the first drive and then

1147
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: rolled through the rest of the game. This Bills defense

1148
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: has been fantastic through four weeks, but the national point

1149
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: of view, how much do you take into account? It's

1150
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: been David's Mills and Taylor Haneke and Jacoby Brissett and

1151
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: the tattered remains of Ben Roethlisberger that's been, you know,

1152
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: fueling this success for the Bills so far. The tattered

1153
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: remains of Ben Rods sounds like a band that I

1154
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: saw in nineteen ninety five. Like that sounds like some

1155
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: heavy metal band. That's very poetic. Here's the thing, apologize

1156
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: for nothing. Okay, so you beat the Texans and that's fine.

1157
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: You crushed them. You're supposed to crush them. If they

1158
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: beat the Texans and Davis Mills twenty three to twenty

1159
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: one on a last second field goal, damn right, I'm

1160
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: a little concerned. About who they've played. But when you

1161
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: beat them forty to nothing, then you have two shutouts

1162
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: in three weeks. That I don't APOLOGI this for any

1163
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: of that stuff at all. That's I mean, this Texas team.

1164
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: We can laugh at Davis Mills and stuff. They started

1165
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: the season strong. They we're gonna beat the Browns. None

1166
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: of that. Hell with all that, I don't believe in that.

1167
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: This is one of these strength of scheduled things. Now,

1168
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: if you want a real example of a team they

1169
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: hadn't played anybody and got exposed, look at the Denver Broncos.

1170
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos are three and oh and they hadn't played

1171
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: squad and so they lose to Baltimore and maybe they're

1172
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: not that good. Buffalo get out of here. Forty to nothing,

1173
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't care what if it's a high school team

1174
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: like that is a crazy score. So listen about the defense.

1175
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: We know what time it is, We know those guys

1176
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: in the secondary and Poyer are gonna have to play

1177
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: the games of their lives. And listen. As much as

1178
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: Mahomes has been losing lately, we had the question this morning,

1179
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: and I keep bring up all stuff from this morning.

1180
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: Stuff was thinking about you guys said, I knew I

1181
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 1: was gonna come on, and we're starting to say who

1182
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: needs this win more? Is it Kansas City or is

1183
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: it Buffalo? The case for Kansas City obviously the record

1184
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: is not as good. You don't want to fall that

1185
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: far behind in the standings and everything. But if they

1186
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: lose all, you know, there's also this if Buffalo loses

1187
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: this game. I don't want to use the word despair here,

1188
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: but it's certainly gonna be a huge psychological setback that

1189
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: how and then when are we going to beat these guys?

1190
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: Because Herbert just did these dudes in their house Lamar

1191
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: beat him. When can we finally being if not now

1192
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: when I actually think Buffalo needs it more than Kansas

1193
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: City despite what the records say, because it's up here. Oh,

1194
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: it unquestionably is probably more in the minds of Bills

1195
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: fans than the players themselves, because there's been a lot

1196
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: of disappointment here, you know, the seventeen year drought notwithstanding,

1197
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: and all the disappointment that that had rolled up into it.

1198
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: And there's chapters and chapters of that you can page

1199
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: through if you want to punish yourself. So yeah, that

1200
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: psyche very much exists, and if they don't beat them,

1201
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: I think Bills fans will be lamenting what the future holds,

1202
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: because you know it's Rick Flair to beat the man.

1203
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: You got to beat the man. You gotta beat the man.

1204
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: And you know they're not there if they can't beat them,

1205
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: because you gotta beat the man, and that just hasn't happened.

1206
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: I want to take your Chiefs characterization a step further

1207
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: as it pertains to their own division, because I think

1208
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: the state of the division from top to bottom has

1209
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: surprised some people. I still don't know if I believe

1210
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: in the Broncos. They had a soft early schedule. I

1211
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: think they're coming back to Earth in a hurry. But

1212
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: the Chargers are legit to me because I think Justin

1213
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: Herbert is the closest thing to Josh Allen who's not

1214
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and that plus all the talent around him,

1215
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: I think puts them squarely in the conversation to put

1216
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: some heat on the Chiefs for the division title when

1217
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: all is said and done. I know you're a big

1218
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: fan of the Raiders. I'm not there yet. I just

1219
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: don't think. I just don't think John Gruden sweats the

1220
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: details enough to have that team in it. At the end,

1221
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably be a ten and a seven,

1222
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: eleven and six, who knows, maybe even a twelve and

1223
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: five team, and they'll get to the playoffs. But I

1224
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: see an early exit for them. But what about the

1225
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: Chargers ability to put heat on the Chiefs in the

1226
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: West for the division title? A crazy conversation at the

1227
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, but a month in, it's not

1228
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: so crazy. What about your ability, Brownie, to put the

1229
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: heat on me as some diehard Raiders fan. Where did

1230
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: that come? Well, no, you were. You were talking them

1231
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: up last week and yeah, and you mentioned him again

1232
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: here today. So I'm just trying to I'm trying to

1233
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: read your tea leaves. I was gonna come on in

1234
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: a Darth Vader helmet and like a commitment shirt, and

1235
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: I promised next week I will. But listen, here's the

1236
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: tea leaves. There's no the quote last night, let's as

1237
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: long as we're talking to AFC Parker, Joey Bosa quote

1238
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: about Derek Carr after that game was profound, and I

1239
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: will I'm paraphrasing here, but Bosa, who like doesn't say

1240
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: a ton had all kinds of takes after that win

1241
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: last night, and he effectively said, listen, Derek Carr's good

1242
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: player and everything, but we know he's the guy that

1243
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: when you hit him, he'll start going down and curling

1244
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 1: up early all you have to do. He even said,

1245
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: when you hit him, he gets shook. And I was like,

1246
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: no one talks like this anymore than twenty what is

1247
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: this nineteen eighty five? Boss? I love it. So that

1248
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: was good old fashioned rivalry. And look, there is a

1249
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: thought about Derek Carr that he is a great guy

1250
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: and an occasionally great quarterback who some players think is soft.

1251
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: Some players think that he will turtle if you hit him.

1252
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: Said a million guys who've been like that over the years,

1253
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: great players who maybe if you put a hard foul

1254
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: on David Robinson, maybe he's not so bad for the

1255
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: Spurs back in the day that there's just guys like that,

1256
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: and maybe players think that Derek cars will find out.

1257
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't think Brownie, to get back to your point,

1258
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 1: I don't think Justin Herbert is that guy like this.

1259
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: If you're if you're a Bills fan or Chiefs fan, like,

1260
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: who are you afraid of? For the next ten years?

1261
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: Who were like, God, I hope they suck. Look maybe

1262
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: it's maybe it's her, maybe it's not. I remember last

1263
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: year at this time we were saying, man, this Tua

1264
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: looks incredible. He may take over the AFC, and to

1265
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: it has been banged up a lot that has not

1266
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: come to fruition. But Herbert, good God, his pulse doesn't change,

1267
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: his facial expression doesn't change. Fourth and whatever in Arrowhead,

1268
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: no big deal. And this Staley seems like he's afraid

1269
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: of nothing. So there's a rumbling with the Chargers right now.

1270
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: It's still percolating, but it's really impressive. How impressed are

1271
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Speaker 1: you with the rumbling in Cleveland and maybe in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a division now that's been Pittsburgh's to

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01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: lose for the last decade, no matter how good everyone

1274
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: else seems to be. And now, like we said that,

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01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: you know the Steelers are are following tattern remains. That

1276
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: is the way I put it. Regardless though you talk

1277
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: about teams that might be dangerous ten years on the

1278
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: road or even this year, how much nerves should Bills

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01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: fans have with what's percolating in the AFC North. He

1280
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: hate to see it. It's it's like these crops that

1281
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: have been planet that are starting to grow. Because I'm

1282
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 1: looking at the Bengals at three and one and two

1283
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: and oh, in the in the conference one and in

1284
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: the division. Burrow is just like I said about Herbert,

1285
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: like I know everybody's got this arm talent now and

1286
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: everybody can run. I watched their facial expressions. I watched

1287
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Speaker 1: these guys in the fourth quarter when it's third and

1288
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: nine and the call comes in, and who looks tense

1289
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: and who looks afraid? Burrow is the word is It's

1290
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: is cuck sure and they used to use it. A

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Speaker 1: boy Brett fav all the time. He's like, fine, I

1292
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: got this, I don't care. And he's a little he's

1293
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: also cocky too, like a little quote afterwards. So listen,

1294
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 1: there are threats out there. There are a lot of them,

1295
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: and some of them more advanced. Lamar of course and Baker,

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01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, of course I'm worried. And let's and by

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01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: the way, if I'm also in the AFC, keep the

1298
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: tattered remains down while we can. Let's get Roethlisberger like

1299
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: in the Royal Rumble and they have to throw him

1300
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: over the top. Rope get him out, because we don't

1301
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: want big John Studd just you know, catching his breath

1302
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: in the corner and all of a sudden, the Steelers

1303
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: got hot and won three in a row. Don't want

1304
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: that either. There's way too many good AFC quarterbacks, and

1305
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: this could be the end of Roethlisbergen, which is a

1306
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: good thing for the Bills fans. He's had a nice career.

1307
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: Get out of here. Yeah, for these other young AFC quarterbacks,

1308
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: you may need to call in Papa Chango and get

1309
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: some voodoo going to kind of have some bad things

1310
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: happen to those teams. Yeah, Papa Chango. I'm a big fan.

1311
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: I want to run this past you because I'm trying

1312
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: to picture it in my mind and for some reason,

1313
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: it's not all coming together. Marshawn Lynch as an ambassador

1314
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: for the NFL PA for recently retired and current players,

1315
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: a brand ambassador. Now, this could go a multitude of ways.

1316
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: I know, I don't need to tell you that, Kyle,

1317
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: give me your best crystal ball as to how this

1318
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: one's get a play out. I mean, is he gonna

1319
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: be signing up guys for Doritos, or is you know

1320
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: or is he gonna be like, where is this going.

1321
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: He's a Skittles guy too, Well, yeah, that's the rainbow

1322
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: people that they never underestimate the power of one quote

1323
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: and of one mission statement. And Marshawn when he gave

1324
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: that quote about take care of your bodies, take care

1325
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: of your mentals, and take care of your chicken, chicken, Yeah,

1326
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: that was effectively his entire plan as a leader. And

1327
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: I would imagine two players was like that. That was

1328
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: his Gettysburg address. That was that was everything you needed

1329
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: to hear, Like that was the greatest inauguration speech. He

1330
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: puts his hand on the Bible and he's sworn in,

1331
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: and my fellow Americans, take care of your bodies, your mentals,

1332
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: and your chickens. And I bet all the players are like,

1333
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: you got my vote Marshawn, Like that is the greatest

1334
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: speech you ever need. You know about. Before COVID blew up,

1335
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: Marshawn was scheduled to speak at Princeton's graduation. I just

1336
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: know that because the SMI alma mater like, wow, Marshawn's

1337
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: gonna speak. They brought him in and then they had

1338
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: to cancel it because of COVID and everything. But like

1339
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: there is a whole different side of him. And I

1340
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: imagine if I'm a player who's about to be done

1341
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: with my career or starting my career, I look at

1342
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: Marshawn and I'm like, that's me. That's the guy who's

1343
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: representing me, not some guy in a suit. Like I

1344
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: want that guy in the in the Dorito's commercial and

1345
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: he'll probably be incredible. Kyle, I shouldn't there in front

1346
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: of the ringer. Ten questions banner and I've always been

1347
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: fashioned to ask you about this. I enjoy the podcast. Thanks.

1348
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 1: What goes into kind of creating that? I know it's

1349
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: it turns into kind of a competition or a contest

1350
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: with guys, and you know, part of it's interviewing in

1351
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: a more traditional format, but certainly as someone who was

1352
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: in the business and creating content, and you know, what,

1353
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: how do you land on some of the things you

1354
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: land on and what works? I mean, do you have

1355
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: to keep in mind like this is this is a

1356
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: good quarterback questions, this is a good receiver questions, it's

1357
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: a good reporter question. What's the background? How that happens

1358
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: for you? Thanks? Thanks for asking. So it's ten questions

1359
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: and They're all trivia questions basically, and then based on

1360
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: the answer, I attach it to their life, so I

1361
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: reverse engineer it so I want. When Josh Allen was

1362
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: on the I wanted to talk to him about his

1363
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: early life, so I knew the name of the town

1364
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: he was from in California, and I was like, Josh,

1365
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: what cinnamon flavored candy is? Is known as an atomic what?

1366
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: And he didn't know the answer, and the answers fireball.

1367
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: So when he says, oh, fireball, then we talk about fireball.

1368
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: I said, Josh, what is the c in CEO stand for?

1369
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: He said, chief? Oh, we're gonna sk abow you. Guys

1370
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs. So you keep score, you reverse

1371
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: engineer it. And my greatest pleasure from it, as I

1372
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: got with Josh, is being like, why the hell is

1373
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: he asking me about yogurt or the return of the

1374
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: Jedi or anything I got eli on. I did him

1375
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: last week, I'm doing Mark Cuban this afternoon. And the

1376
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: pleasure is just blowing their hair back about how weird

1377
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: the questions were. And to this day, Bills fans done

1378
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: dozens of episodes. Josh Allen the highest score of all time,

1379
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: nine out of ten points. Yeah, McConaughey is still my

1380
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: favorite episode. It's not even close. He was good. A

1381
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: wild turkey brownie. It was great. I'm sure it was.

1382
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was. Just don't know if he just

1383
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 1: had half a dubie before you started, or a little

1384
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: whatever it was. He gets to that place. Man, he's cool. Man,

1385
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: all right, ten questions. Man, he wasn't great, but he's

1386
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: But I tell you he's sharp. I mean, don't let

1387
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: him fool you. He's sharp as attack man. And he's

1388
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: almost smarter in that laid back vibe more than anything else.

1389
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: And his book was fantastic too. I read The Green Lights.

1390
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: It was good. It was a good book. I enjoyed it.

1391
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: It's season three though, for you. That kicks off now

1392
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: right this week or yeah, tomorrow tomorrow morning. The first

1393
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: episode with Eli, I did this this random media guy

1394
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: who I don't know very well named Nate Burlison. He's

1395
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: kind of a hothead jackass, don't know him. Episode was fine.

1396
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: The great Dennis Quaid came on. We talked a given Sunday.

1397
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: You know, Jennis Quaid. We had this debate and I

1398
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: know we're tight. In time, I'll be short. I said, Dennis,

1399
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: you've done like seventeen sports movies. If you really had

1400
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: him up. They call Costner the King of the Sports movie.

1401
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: But I'd feel like Costa's the Hank Aaron, You're the

1402
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: Pete Rose. Let's settle this thing. And we had a

1403
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 1: heated debate about the King of the Sports movie. So

1404
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: that was a quaid. And then I do Mark Cuban

1405
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: this afternoon in a couple of hours. You got to

1406
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: see if Dennis can get your Randy, because that would

1407
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: be pretty cool. Listen, it gets dicey with ra Well,

1408
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: that's what it would be good though, Brownie, Brownie, I'm

1409
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: trying to talk to him about cousin Eddie, his brother Randi,

1410
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: and it's just a little dicey. You can tell it.

1411
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: It get tens us up a little bit. And I said,

1412
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: I said, you know, do you guys say it Christmas time?

1413
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: Hey bleeper was full? No, like I don't. It's gone

1414
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: a strange place, but we all love cousin Eddie's. Yeah,

1415
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: there is there a Kyle, Is there a cutting room

1416
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: floor of ten questions that would be worth putting out

1417
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: at some point? Yeah, yeah, very much. Often it's when

1418
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: you're done this, Like you're always be like, oh, this

1419
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: is great, this is so fun. Close the laptop. It's over,

1420
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 1: And then you get an email from the publicist they're like, yeah,

1421
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: question seven, that thing about that dad, can we cut

1422
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: that out. There's been some Hall of famers who've immediately

1423
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: responded and said, we would prefer not not to have

1424
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: that part down, like that's the best part. Yeah, I

1425
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to end this on

1426
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: a difficult note for you. As a resident Chicago Bears fan.

1427
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: Uh Naggy as you know, said, when Andy Dalton's healthy,

1428
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: he's going to be back in the lineup as the starter.

1429
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: I think we would all agree that justin fields from

1430
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: one week to the next was dramatically improved with Bill

1431
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: Laser calling the plays on offense. At the very least

1432
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: that will continue. Um, what what does what does your

1433
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 1: Bears fandom tell you in the back of your brain

1434
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: and try to avoid past history to go negative? Here says,

1435
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: go get a, go get an Aaron Rodgers, Jersey, whoa listen, whoa? No,

1436
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: nobody knows the answer to this question, Brownie. There are

1437
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: there are extremely plugged in insiders ex players. Yeah, me,

1438
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: anybody you want around this country. No one knows the

1439
01:10:55,320 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: answer of why Matt Naggie is has this undying, unbridled

1440
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: love for Andy Dalton, love anything in your life as

1441
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: much as Naggie loves Andy Dalton. I don't know why.

1442
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 1: And there's this there, well, it's under direction from ownership

1443
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: to keep feels out of harm's way. I don't buy

1444
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: that for a second. I don't think that Bears operate

1445
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: that way. I don't think they make football decisions. And

1446
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: so you may think, well, Naggie, he's trying to save

1447
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 1: his shot. You're gonna save your job with Andy Dalton. Guys,

1448
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 1: this team is not that good. The schedule is really hard.

1449
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: Look at their schedule. Sucks like they may be like

1450
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: a three and nine team sitting here somewhere. So if

1451
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: you are Naggie, like, good god, let's take a shot

1452
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: with this crazy athlete as opposed to like Captain Checkdown,

1453
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: who was pretty good with the Bengals for a while.

1454
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: It's the strangest thing in football right now. I mean,

1455
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: second only to the Shaun Watson situation, which is unbelievably

1456
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: bizarre and unsavory. But this is the second strangest and

1457
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: just watch it. When if Dalton gets back out there

1458
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: and he's not good, can you imagine the roar from

1459
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: Bears spend out, what are we doing here? No wonder

1460
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna build a new stadium in a different site

1461
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: because they're gonna burn this one to the ground. The

1462
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: whole thing is, the whole thing is counterintuitive. Yes, and

1463
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 1: they got the Raiders this weekend, Yeah, which which sparks

1464
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,799
Speaker 1: me to recall a saying that my mom would always

1465
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: throw out whenever something smelled awfully fishy and involved somebody

1466
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: that was just making no sense with their decision making.

1467
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: You know, the other person involved invariably had pictures of

1468
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: that person and was forcing him to make him you know.

1469
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was always, Oh they got pictures on him.

1470
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,879
Speaker 1: That's that's what she always used to say. That's why. Yeah,

1471
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe that's what maybe Andy Dalton

1472
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: was on Matt Naggie's Only Fans account or whatever it is.

1473
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what those things are. I don't dabble

1474
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: in those waters. But if the logic of Missus Brown

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Speaker 1: certainly may hold Troup. Either way, none of it makes

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Speaker 1: any sense, and I feel for Bears fans I think

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01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: they deserve better than that. But that's just me sitting

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01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. So listen, Bears fans had to endure

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Speaker 1: about three years of the guy who's sitting behind Josh

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01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: Allen right now, and that was a very trying time.

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: We're happy from Mitch. We'd love seeing him get in

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01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: the end zone last year. He always been a hard

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 1: work on, a great dude. He just I didn't have it,

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01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: and so now we're hoping for fields, but they won't

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: give it to us. Yeah, well, who knows. Maybe something

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: crazy happens and they luck into making the right decision.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. I'm I'm putting Kyle. I got my fingers

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01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: crossed for you, Bears fans, I really do. But I

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: hope so that lightning that's struck in La last night,

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01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: maybe it'll strike something in Chicago and launch a different

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01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of thinking. Who knows, that's maybe what we need

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01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: the one point twenty when jigawatts of energy to change

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01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: this thing. You want to throw a quick score at

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Speaker 1: us for Sunday night or no, of course I do. Yeah, Um,

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01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't think about these things beforehand. I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a thirty seven to twenty six Buffalo. Okay,

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01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: you can play it back. Yes, they're winning by eleven

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: points and all hell is gonna break loose in Kansas

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01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: City thirty seven to twenty six. Playback next week. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that would be their fourth straight ten plus point victory

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01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: record the tattered remains of the Chiefs. Okay, we'll take

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01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: it to the bank. Kyle. Thanks as always, we'll catch

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01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: up with you next week. That is kind that's Kyle

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Speaker 1: Brandt from Good Morning Football joining us here. Thad and

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: I back with your thoughts on the tweet sheet about

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01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: who might tip the balance in that Bill's Chiefs game

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. We're back in a moment, all right, It's

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Speaker 1: time for the Buffalo Bills and Adds Pro Sports high

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Speaker 1: School Coaches of the Week. They're partnering to recognize some

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Speaker 1: of the Week program Section six. This week, Bennett coach

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Speaker 1: Steve McDuffie was this week's Buffalo Region Coach of the

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Speaker 1: Week after leading the Tigers to a forty eight twenty

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Speaker 1: four win over Lancaster. The Legends are five time defending

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Speaker 1: sectional champs and entered the game rank number four in

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Speaker 1: New York State and Class Double A. McDuffie was named

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Speaker 1: the head coach. Had been in twenty ten and has

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Speaker 1: led the Tigers to several league titles, in one Section

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Speaker 1: six championship in twenty sixteen Section five the Rochester Region,

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Speaker 1: it's East Rochester Ganandaz Brian turrant I'm gonna butcher this.

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Speaker 1: Brian turran Joe was named the Rochester Regions Coach of

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Speaker 1: the Week after leading his team to a forty two

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Speaker 1: nothing win over Waterloo. My goodness, he had a shutout

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Speaker 1: this week too. Helped by a thirty to nothing lead

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Speaker 1: at the half, the Bombers improved to an undefeated five

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Speaker 1: and oh on the season. Turranjo has been on the

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Speaker 1: East Rochester Gananda staff for twenty eight seasons, twenty four

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Speaker 1: years as an assistant before being named head coach four

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Speaker 1: years ago. Has posted a record at twenty one and

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Speaker 1: eight during that span. So I hope I got to

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Speaker 1: coach his name right there. Chris Brown Thad Brown with

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Speaker 1: you and we wanted to get some thoughts from you

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01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: on our Twitter discussion today, which was who brings something

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Speaker 1: different to the matchup with the Chiefs this year that

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Speaker 1: may help get the Bills a victory. And tweet sheet,

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Speaker 1: The official quent removing provider of the Buffalo Bills and

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Speaker 1: leading us off today is Gabriella, who has chosen Singletary

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01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: and Moss. She's going with the Kyle Brandt approach here.

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01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: Our run game is starting to take shape and it's

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01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: going to give Josh some breathing room to operate this

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: offense better. Now I know the score on the board

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01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: last week, Fad kind of helped them use the run

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01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: game more to kind of shorten the game. I think

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01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the day it was like forty

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01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: to thirty in terms of run to pass. And we

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01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: saw that also in the which game was it now?

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 1: Was it the Miami game or the Washington game? Was

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01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: Miami game where they had more runs? Right? So, seeing

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01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: that and seeing the yards per carry average, which is

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: pretty good here through the first four weeks, how much

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01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,879
Speaker 1: do we believe in the balance of this offense helping

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01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 1: them against the Chiefs where the conventional wisdom historically has been,

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, you gotta throw with them. You gotta

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01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: keep up with them, score for score, score for score.

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01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: What do we think about this approach as an alternative?

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01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: I think you can help, you know. I think the

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01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: Bills running game just has to be good enough to

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01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: keep teams honest, to force you to defend it to

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01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: where if you just back off and play everything outside,

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01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna give up six, seven eight yards a carry

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01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: to where the builds are gonna be able to move

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: the chains, no problem. I've always thought that Singletary and

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01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: Moss as running backs have been fine too, better than fine,

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Speaker 1: good above average. I think for the most part, even

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01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: last year, you know, when it was blocked for three yards,

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01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: they'll get three or four or five. And I think

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01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: you're seeing that this year too. I think Moss looks

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01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: healthy to me, after having to deal with the ankle

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01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: and j obviously in the off season. I think that's

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Speaker 1: maybe given him a burst to start the year. And

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Speaker 1: I think, speaking of burst, I think Singletary has a

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01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: little more of that. And you saw it against the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins and the long touchdown runs. I think both guys,

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're incredibly improved, but I think

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01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: there might be this much improved and that might be

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01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: all you need, you know, in a game like this

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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. The other interesting element of that whole

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01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: thing is the revamped offensive line, which, if you were

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Speaker 1: going to do it, doing it against the Texans was

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01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: a good week to kind of let everybody get up

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01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: to speed against an inferior opponent. But now you've got

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and they're putting Chris Jones out at defensive

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01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: end this year. They don't have him lining up inside

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: until he reduces down in obvious passing situations and then

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Speaker 1: he goes back to his more familiar defensive tackle spot.

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01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: But that's a Spencer Brown Chris Jones matchup, which I

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01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: find very intriguing going into this one. The other part

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01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: of this run game equation that has me curious too

1591
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: is we hear the defensive coaching staff of the Bills

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01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years, and Coach McDermott said

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: it yesterday when we were taping the Sean McDermot Show.

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01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: He said, that's a track team on a football field.

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01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: How much do we give a Matt Breed a consideration

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01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: to being in the lineup this week? If you want

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01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: to fight fire with fire, so to speak, and work

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01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: speed to the edge against this defense. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of that move. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I've been a fan of Breda as a guy regularly

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01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: in the lineup to begin with. I always thought he'd

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01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: be what he's been in the last couple of weeks,

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: which is the third back. Yeah, occasionally, you know, And

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: I think the thing too. Singletary and Moss have been

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01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: so good at you what you wanted them to do

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01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: through four weeks, you know, why go away from that? Right?

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01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: I get the thinking, But I think I don't think

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01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: this is a situation where the Bill should be fighting

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: fire with fire. I think they should fight a fire

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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: with what they do. Be yourself and what you've been

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01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 1: doing the first for four weeks has been really good.

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Speaker 1: Do that against the Chiefs, and I know they pride

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Speaker 1: themselves and being a you know, match up the matchup

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01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: game to the game we're gonna you know, do with

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01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: the other team doesn't do well, that kind of think

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01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 1: the old Patriots mantra, I don't know if you need

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01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: to go that fire with it this weekend. Well, they're

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01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: they're having so much trouble. Stop in anybody, just stick

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01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: with what works, because there's no need to overthink it

1620
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: with the way that Chiefs defense is playing right now.

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01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: Herb on the tweet sheets says, personally, I believe it's

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01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders on offense and Greg Russo on defense. They're

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Speaker 1: two new players and both have great skill sets. He

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01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: can run any route and catch any ball. Greg is

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01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: so long, he can get Mahomes off his spot and

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01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: could get a couple of sacks. This Bill's team d

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01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: is bawling. We've already tell talked about Sanders being a

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01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: three level receiver Rousseau. I think the advantage with Rousseau

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01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: here and Steve and I have talked about this. He

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01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: almost makes quarterbacks feel like he's on them when he

1631
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: may not be. Because I saw it in the preseason,

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01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: and granted this is preseason that we're talking about here,

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01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: but there were a couple of plays where he was

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01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: reaching past and through the offensive tackle to grab a

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01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: part of the quarterback shoulder pad and the quarterbacks looking downfield.

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01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't know how close the guy is to actually

1637
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: sacking him, but if he's using those thirty six inch

1638
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: arms to even make the guy feel like he's right there,

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01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: that can have an impact. I agree. I don't know

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01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: if I think rug Gregorsseau is still very much a

1641
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: work in progress. Yeah, I'm gonna argue he's the fourth

1642
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: best pass rusher of the four defensive ends right now,

1643
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily a knock. I mean, Jerry huses,

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01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, I think Mario Addison had a prett strong

1645
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: start to the year and Epinesa, you know, of the

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01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: Russo epinessa combination. I think epins has been a little

1647
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: more consistent, I would agree, But yeah, that is that

1648
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: is Russo's game. You know, if he can you know,

1649
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: bull rush, I mean for him, you know, you get

1650
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: two steps and now you're within you know, grasping distance

1651
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. Yeah, I can make a difference, but uh,

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01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's gonna make a difference in

1653
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: the preseason with the quarterbacks you see there not as

1654
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: much with a Pat Mahomes, who's always seemed about as

1655
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: compass can be in the pocket and you know, knowing

1656
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: when to get out and being able to make plays

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01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: on the run. So I think grig Rosseau looks good

1658
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: when you're going against Davids Mills, not so much this weekend. Yeah,

1659
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: and not to mention the fact that the pass rush

1660
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,440
Speaker 1: approach is going to have to be far more disciplined.

1661
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: You can't just blindly try to rush up the field

1662
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: and leave that gap open behind you, because Mahomes will

1663
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 1: just run right through it, and then it's a fifteen

1664
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: yard game and a slide and it's first and ten again.

1665
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: Tiffany on the tweet sheet says, big Star creating having

1666
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: up the middle and setting the tone for the defense.

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01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: He's been outstanding this season and it's affecting the play

1668
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 1: of the entire defensive line in such a positive way.

1669
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: He may be our defensive MVP up to this point

1670
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: of the season. We should not forget that Clyde Edwards

1671
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: Hilaire did run for one hundred and two yards last

1672
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: week against a pretty good defensive front for Philadelphia. So

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01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: granted he almost never sees eight man boxes, probably hasn't

1674
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: in his entire pro career, but that's nothing to sneeze at.

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01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: I think Star helps there unquestionably, and I agree because

1676
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense, especially the last couple of weeks, they

1677
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: seem to, I don't want to say rely, but certainly

1678
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: need that seven yard rush breather to where we don't

1679
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: have to constantly be dropping back and Pat Mahomes picking

1680
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: up third and fives all the way down the field.

1681
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: It was a big part of their success against Philadelphia.

1682
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: Now the Bills can take that away with just the

1683
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: front four with Star or you know, with the main

1684
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: run fillers, you know, be able to commit a normal

1685
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: amount of guys to pass defense. I think it can

1686
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: make a difference, so to me, I think for this question,

1687
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: I think Star is gonna be really high on the

1688
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: list if he can do and this Bills run defense

1689
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: can do what they've done for the first four weeks

1690
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: of the year. Whole different animal. You know. Again we've

1691
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: talked about a quarterbacks talent, etc. But it can make

1692
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: a big difference because I think the Chiefs do need,

1693
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, that seventy to one hundred and ten yards

1694
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: rushing to continue to sustain what they want to do offensively.

1695
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,799
Speaker 1: Eli says, well, we have Star, He's made a huge difference.

1696
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: Groot aj the whole defense also, Dable has to do

1697
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: something different. He needs to throw a whole damn house

1698
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs defense, who is struggling. Now our defense

1699
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: will be tested against one of the best offenses in

1700
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: the league. What do you say to that. I heard

1701
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: a weird theory the other day elsewhere on talk radio

1702
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: that said a caller said, Hey, I don't want Dable

1703
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: to throw the kitchen sink at them because they're probably

1704
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: going to see him later in the year, and you

1705
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: want to keep some stuff in your back pocket. Number one,

1706
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: you got to throw the kitchen sink at them this week.

1707
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: You have to win this game. Going back to what

1708
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: Kyle was saying about the mental psyche, not only are

1709
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: the fan base, but probably this locker room to a

1710
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: certain extent, you can't come out with a win here.

1711
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 1: You're like, when the hell are we gonna beat these guys.

1712
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: You got to put your players in every possible advantageous

1713
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: situation you can, and you can worry about the playoffs

1714
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: when the playoffs count. Clearly agree and this game, you know,

1715
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: might be enough even mathematically for the Bills to put

1716
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: distance between themselves and the Chiefs and end up with

1717
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: the one seed. I mean, this is this is a

1718
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: game the Bill need to win for a thousand reasons.

1719
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: You do not save anything. Now. It doesn't mean you

1720
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: have to go deep into the playbook and you know,

1721
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: pull out all your flee flickers and throwback passes and

1722
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, wildcat and whatever other garbage you want to

1723
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: have offensively. I've definitely had some of that stuff. But

1724
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: this is not a hold of anything back week This

1725
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: is a game that can This is not I don't

1726
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: think it's too short of a thing to say this

1727
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: could be a franchise altering victory this weekend because you

1728
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 1: win this game, you get home field in the playoffs.

1729
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: The Bills seem to think that home fields the reason

1730
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: they lost last year's So now you have it, you

1731
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: take that to the super Bowl with I mean, that's

1732
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: where we're talking about this week Hol's only week five,

1733
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: it's in October. But this game can have that kind

1734
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: of impact. So Brian Nable and the game plenty has

1735
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: I talked about it earlier. You know, the xes and os,

1736
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: the buttons you push, I think are gonna be a

1737
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: big part of how the Bills succeed this weekend against

1738
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 1: Kansas City. JT says, our pass rush win in the trenches.

1739
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: If we can cause two turnovers, maybe even one, we

1740
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: win this game. Because Casey's defense stinks to high Heaven.

1741
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 1: We just need to make sure we're putting up sevens,

1742
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: not threes, and we'll get our revenge. Maybe even run

1743
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: the ball a bit to keep Mahomes off the field. Now,

1744
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: we saw the Titans employ that approach because it made sense.

1745
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: They have Derrick Henry almost said Travis Henry, Holy calum,

1746
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: I old. So I mean, if you have Derek Henry, yeah,

1747
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, and said I'm with you, brownie. Every once

1748
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: in a while, the drought level bills you can't avoid.

1749
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we live with that for so long. It's terrible.

1750
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: It's deep in the recess of the brain, and they

1751
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: just they you know, they jump up and bite you

1752
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 1: when you least expect. God, I'd like want to slap

1753
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: myself right now. But Derrick Henry, if you have him

1754
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: on your roster, it makes sense to try to use

1755
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: a little ball control, especially if you're up. But you

1756
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: have to have a defense that's gonna be able to

1757
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: hold them also to a certain extent, or at least

1758
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: slow them down. I don't know why, but I just

1759
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: feel more confident that the Bills have that defense. I'm

1760
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: not saying they're holding the Chiefs to ten points, but

1761
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: I think they can hold them under thirty. And so

1762
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: that then begs the question, well, how does that change

1763
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: what you do offensively? Do you leave your foot pressed

1764
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: firmly to the floor until the end of the game

1765
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: or do you mix in a little run? Because it

1766
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: has worked for you through the first four weeks, and

1767
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: as you said, what Mosson Singletary have been has been

1768
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: effective enough to keep them on schedule, down in distance wise,

1769
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: and to keep defenses honest. And the Chiefs have been

1770
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: so bad you almost say, yeah, do that. And I

1771
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: think the thing that you maybe we're overlooking here is

1772
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: that foot to the floor does include, you know, some

1773
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: of Mosson Singletary running the ball, because you don't think

1774
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: about running as three yards in a cloud of dush.

1775
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: For the Bills, it's you know, eight yards on a

1776
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: draw or you know, seven yards around on an outside

1777
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: zone play. And that's that's the type of running the

1778
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: Bills need to do in this game. And you know, defensively,

1779
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's about a number. I think it's

1780
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: about making a few plays, you know, getting a stop here,

1781
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: getting a couple of turnovers. Pat Mahomes right now is

1782
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: top five in the NFL with most interceptions, I mean

1783
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: only only how about this, only Zach Wilson and Trevor

1784
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence have more interceptions than Pat Mahomes in the NFL ranger.

1785
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: So he's going to give you a chance. He's to

1786
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: make those plays. Just catch him and be ready for them.

1787
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: And you have enough of a pass rush that worries

1788
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: him and pourses him and making those plays. And it

1789
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: might not even have to be pass rushed. It might

1790
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: be able. One thing I thought about this and then

1791
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: I want to actually get your take on this. I'm

1792
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: the Bills, and I win the coin toss. I want

1793
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: the ball first because I want to be up seven

1794
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: nothing and not having to chase this team the whole

1795
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: game long. I know the Bills and Sean mcgrenna want

1796
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: to have come out of the locker room double. If

1797
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: I get all that, I want to put the pressure

1798
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: on Pat Mahomes right off the bat. And what better

1799
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: way to do that than to have seven on the

1800
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: board before he even steps on the field. All right,

1801
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: we'll weigh that out when we come back. It up

1802
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: in a second here on one Bill's Live, stay tuned,

1803
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: all right, So very quickly Ben asked me, what would

1804
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: you do with the coin toss. I'm conflicted on this

1805
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: because I do like the double dip at the end

1806
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: of the second and start of the third quarter. It's

1807
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: almost like back to back possessions. I guess if we

1808
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: want to be aggressive and let it all hang out,

1809
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: why not give me the ball? Um? I guess I'll

1810
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: jump on there with you and say, hey, it's time

1811
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 1: to make a statement. Let's let's let's do it now,

1812
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: because if not now when there is also a development.

1813
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: Uh And I don't know if you saw this, but

1814
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: Taylor Bishatti at NFL Network tweeted, sources tell me Josh Gordon,

1815
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: who officially signed to the Chief's fifty three man roster,

1816
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: is going to play Sunday night against the Bills. I

1817
01:28:54,600 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: see a bit role here, right, A package rolespected down

1818
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: the field. But that's about it. Yeah, I would agree

1819
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: with that. Thad, thanks very much for your help today.

1820
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I'm sure we'll see you out here

1821
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: later this week. Good time, guys. Thanks all right, that's

1822
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: w ro OCTV sports director Thad Brown helping us today.

1823
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: We'll have Joe Valerio, former Chiefs offensive Lyneman joining the

1824
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: show tomorrow. We'll see you at one. Thanks for listening.

1825
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Speaker 1: Catch it tomorrow.