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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have a very

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Speaker 1: interesting show for you today. I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: really enjoy hearing what goes on behind the scenes in

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Speaker 1: politics and how the Democrats have gotten as far as

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Speaker 1: they have. So we wanted to bring an expert in.

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Speaker 1: We have Bill McGinley with us today. He is the

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Speaker 1: former White House Cabinet Secretary under President Trump and also

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Speaker 1: outside council to the RNC, So he's seen all of

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Speaker 1: the sausage in the election machine and it seems like

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Speaker 1: they kind of have better sausage on.

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Speaker 2: The other side. Bill, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Sure, well, they at least have more expensive sausage. That's true.

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Speaker 3: I've spent a.

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Speaker 4: Lot more money of building out that infrastructure and it's

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Speaker 4: something that they use to pay dividends election cycle after

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Speaker 4: election cycle.

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Speaker 3: So can't wait to get into it with you that.

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Speaker 1: Actually I do want to get into that because in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: I always say I think that this really changed after

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen because they saw this organic support of Trump

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Speaker 1: and it panicked them because they've never seen this kind

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Speaker 1: so I think that what happened is they started bringing

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Speaker 1: in all these nonprofit organizations, and then they got the

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State's office, the Attorney General's office, the Governor's office,

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Speaker 1: and really they do weaponize those seeds against people.

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Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: And President Trump's election in twenty sixteen really was a

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Speaker 4: sea change, I think in terms of the democratic dark

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Speaker 4: money operation. I think before that they were looking at

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Speaker 4: these large, uber nonprofit organizations run by people like David

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Speaker 4: Brock or other big name players in the dark money universe,

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Speaker 4: funded by the donors to Democracy Alliance, which is a

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Speaker 4: big donor group that was founded by Rob Stein. There's

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Speaker 4: a book out there called The Argument that I would

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Speaker 4: ask your readers to take some time and go through

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Speaker 4: because it talks about the evolution of the thought process

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Speaker 4: amongst these democratic dark money donors. And after sixteen, they

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Speaker 4: were all surprised by Trump's victory and they really kind

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Speaker 4: of brought in a new crew of consultants a way

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Speaker 4: the Resistance Map. The New York Times published the map

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Speaker 4: from the Democracy Alliance that really shows how they broke

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Speaker 4: out the different functions from everything from going after Republican

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Speaker 4: public officials, to research, to organizing protests, to opposition research,

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Speaker 4: lawfare to go against all of the Republicans. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's quite sophisticated and organized, and they basically fund this

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Speaker 4: for these types of tactics.

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Speaker 1: So we always thought that there were certain positions that

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Speaker 1: were just non partisan positions that you just did the

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Speaker 1: work of. You know, secretary of state. She's running elections,

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Speaker 1: she's making sure that we have vehicles registered. All of

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Speaker 1: the functions of the secretary of state. We thought we're

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Speaker 1: just nonpartisan functions in Michigan. We've been shocked by what

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Speaker 1: She's obviously I think she's on our sixth lawsuit now

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Speaker 1: that she's lost, and you've been a part of some

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Speaker 1: out and she said, if anybody threatens to not certify

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Speaker 5: If someone were to violate the law and not certify.

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Speaker 2: The election at the local level, we will come for you.

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Speaker 5: So any local certifier thinking of skirting the law and

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of secretary of state speak that

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Speaker 4: No, because even though the Secretary of State in a

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Speaker 4: Secretary of State to act as a neutral and objective

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Speaker 4: they ruled that JF or RFK Junior has to stay

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Speaker 4: But Cornell West, another independent candidate, they tried to keep

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Speaker 1: And this is after she's forced him to be on

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Speaker 1: Or No, she originally tried to keep him off.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 1: She originally tried to keep him off because she said,

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Speaker 4: And I always think, you know, Ockham's razor is a

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Speaker 4: And so you know, we always have to we always

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Speaker 4: it's keeping the voter rolls clean, making sure there's parody

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Speaker 4: with toll watchers, what I hope we'll talk about later,

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Speaker 4: you know, any of the different things that you know

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Speaker 4: have faith in the process and confidence and the results

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Speaker 4: because the citizen armies that show up to actually cast

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Speaker 4: just to be the eyes and ears of their party,

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Speaker 4: and then the lawyers can can figure out a course

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Speaker 4: These are time honored roles that political parties have done,

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Speaker 4: and we see the Democrats, especially their secretaries of state

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Speaker 4: really using bellicost language to try and intimidate these people

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Speaker 4: who really are active and valued participants in the democratic

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Speaker 4: they dial it back, they allow the process to unfold,

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Speaker 4: I am confident Donald Trump it's going to be prevail

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Speaker 1: But it hasn't been fair for several years, and that's

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Speaker 1: Jocelyn Benson in Michigan, and I mean you have had

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Speaker 1: her own election for governor. We are seeing that that'll

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Speaker 1: be the same thing in Michigan because Jocelyn Benson has

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Speaker 2: She's done some things in this state that are bizarre.

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Speaker 1: You've had to see her to get people off the

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Speaker 1: secretary of State, and she's refused to do that. Another

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Speaker 1: always very concerned, she eliminated the signature match. After touting

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Speaker 1: signature match, it's the safest way to make sure that

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Speaker 2: She eliminated that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know a court had to come in.

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Speaker 4: You know, she was putting out the secret guidance that

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Speaker 4: The presumption is gone. Now, with the presumption gone, that

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Speaker 4: should result in both parties looking at the signatures to

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Speaker 4: see if they match. If they don't match, you can

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Speaker 4: set it aside and do it further investigation. Just because

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Speaker 4: the signatures don't match doesn't mean a ballot doesn't count.

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Speaker 4: It just requires you to go back and confirm that

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Speaker 4: that is the voter who casts the ballot. All of

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Speaker 4: these things strengthen democracy. They basically bring transparency to the process.

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Speaker 4: They give people faith that when they announce the results,

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Speaker 4: secretaries of state that are becoming more and more partisan,

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Speaker 4: they should be something that is seen and heard from

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Speaker 1: Ran that was her message was, I'm going to sure

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Speaker 1: This message from someone who I think people have not

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State. It's been a trusted office, is now

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Speaker 1: telling you one side of the political aisle is a

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Speaker 1: the former president and a presidential candidate, and now we

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Speaker 1: have secretaries of state in swing states saying that all

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Speaker 1: in the primary where Detroit has somehow like seven times

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Speaker 1: more poll workers, and you just talked about how important

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the R and C and others in Michigan

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Speaker 4: are litigating over that issue because it's called the parody requirement.

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Speaker 4: And basically, in order to have the transparency and the

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Speaker 4: faith and the process, you want to have as much

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Speaker 4: parity as possible between Democrats, Republicans, and independents. And so

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Speaker 4: these state boards are empowered to go out and try

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Speaker 4: and find the election workers who are going to man

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Speaker 4: you're supposed to make it as bipartisan as possible, so

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Speaker 4: then nobody feels like there's.

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Speaker 3: A partisan advantage there.

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Speaker 4: When one party is basically not allowed to get to parody,

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Speaker 4: that creates an issue where the courts may need to

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Speaker 4: step in and tell these folks, you know, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: this is not some sort of discretionary clause under the law.

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Speaker 4: This is actually a statutory duty that you need to fulfill,

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Speaker 4: and we expect you to try and do this so

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Speaker 4: the process. Now let me also say this, and I

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Speaker 4: want to say this unrelated to the lawsuit. This is

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Speaker 4: where your listeners in Michigan, in the battleground states Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia.

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Speaker 4: You know, put prosecutors in place that believe that enforcing

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump and JD Vance in the administration that they

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Speaker 1: Stick around for more with Bill McGinley, But first I

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Speaker 1: Israel needs your support now more with Bill McGinley after this.

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Speaker 1: When we started this podcast, you were talking about the

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Speaker 1: importance of volunteering and getting out there. That has been

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Speaker 1: the idea of Obama being the community organizer, this is

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Speaker 1: a business for them. It's not really the community organizer.

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Speaker 1: It's about going out and hiring a massive amount of

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Speaker 1: make sure you not only volunteer, not only go to

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Speaker 1: your friends to do it.

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Speaker 2: And you make sure.

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Speaker 1: Guys, we're talking about a few hours of your life

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Speaker 1: that you're giving up to make sure we are protected.

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Speaker 1: You think about all the men and women who serve,

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Speaker 1: all the men and women who give up much more

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Speaker 1: than that.

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Speaker 2: Please step in, Please help us out.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: And you know, if you can just you know, whatever

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Speaker 4: making phone calls to neighbor's friends and family for them

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Speaker 4: to get out the vote, because remember, election security and

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Speaker 4: get out the voter are two sides of the same coin.

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Speaker 3: We need to turn out the votes.

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Speaker 4: We need you to cast your ballot so that we

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Speaker 4: have something to fight over if we have to fight,

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Speaker 4: because we want to preserve your ballot, and so you

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Speaker 4: security side so that people have faith in the process.

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Speaker 4: And I would also tell your listeners find the method

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Speaker 4: know you're going to be traveling on election day, vote early, right,

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Speaker 4: whether it's in person, and I know a lot of

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Speaker 4: find a way to track it, use a.

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Speaker 3: Mail in ballot.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people will say no, I can't trust that.

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Speaker 4: Then find the time on the weekend to go vote

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Speaker 4: those votes in if there's a snowstorm, if something else

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Speaker 4: happens on election day and we're not able to do it.

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Speaker 4: We can't rely on the typical democratic advantage in early voting.

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Speaker 4: You have to vote exercise you're franchised. You want to

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Speaker 4: put people like Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, and

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Speaker 4: Jocelyn Benson, the Secretary of State, back in a box

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Speaker 4: and to show them how democracy really works. Make sure

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Speaker 4: your registration is up today, own your vote, take responsibility

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Speaker 4: for what you're supposed to be doing. Figure out the

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Speaker 4: best way for you to cast your ballot and make

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Speaker 4: sure that you cast it. Make a circle of friends

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Speaker 4: of ten people, hold each other accountable. Have you cast

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Speaker 3: Did you get in? And do that okay?

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Speaker 4: And then make sure that you're volunteering on election day

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Speaker 3: But also sign up as a poll watcher.

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Speaker 4: Be a volunteer for America, a volunteer to make sure

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Speaker 4: that democracy actually does work. And I think you're going

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Speaker 4: to feel a lot better, and I think it's going

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Speaker 4: to produce the results you want, not only for you

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that you have to remember this is a

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Speaker 1: so oftentimes you can't get to the polls that day.

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Speaker 1: You may be going on a business trip. And in

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Speaker 1: And then I went with a bunch of people from

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, what's going to happen, because you know,

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Speaker 1: and we just see I'm with a bunch of liberals,

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Speaker 2: And they were sitting there. Finally the one girl goes,

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Speaker 1: We have to go to the hotel. I'm getting sick.

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Speaker 1: I can't watch this around other people. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: want I'm just going to see what people are thinking.

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Speaker 1: And I will never forget the one man who was

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Speaker 1: the idea that this was something that getting people who

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Speaker 2: They just had no idea.

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Speaker 1: There's people were just so uneducated and something that was

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Speaker 1: their position and demonized. So they did, and it scared

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Speaker 2: It's just that's just how ghosts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they really are the Party of projection.

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Speaker 4: Everything that they try to accuse Republicans of, I mean

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Speaker 4: other Republicans, and I thought Bobby Kennedy when he suspended

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Speaker 4: really good job of basically using real world examples of

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Speaker 4: I mean, they are not about, you know, working for

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Speaker 4: any cost, and they don't care who they have to

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Speaker 4: we need to prevail, because we really do need to

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Speaker 4: to course correct on so many fronts so that we

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you are absolutely right, and I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: you were here to talk about it today.

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Speaker 2: Bill McGinley, thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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