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Speaker 1: Hey, the cross Country Mortgage campus Ken Carmon alongside Tyvis Powlin,

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Speaker 1: Nathan's Gerrin, the head coach of your Cleveland Browns, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski joins us here to wrap up Day two and

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Speaker 1: the second and third round of the NFL Draft and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three coach. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for being with you guys.

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Speaker 1: So for you, guys, what's the process to wait around

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Speaker 1: until pick seventy four when you're wanting to make picks

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Speaker 1: and wanting to get involved in watching all these other

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Speaker 1: teams take players you probably liked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hurry up and wait right.

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Speaker 3: You know, you sit there and you're watching guys come

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Speaker 3: off the board, and what happens is with this process

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, you spend all the time that you spend

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Speaker 3: in a normal draft. You spend the time with the

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Speaker 3: tape and with the players. So you really get to

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Speaker 3: know so many of these players, and as you can imagine,

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Speaker 3: there's guys that you really like and you're hoping they

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Speaker 3: don't go to somebody that you have to play. And

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Speaker 3: you're watching the board come off and we're watching like

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Speaker 3: fans in that first round and seeing who's coming off

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Speaker 3: and where what surprised us and that type of thing,

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Speaker 3: and that is that's fun and all, But then it's

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Speaker 3: more fun one when you actually get to all right,

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Speaker 3: let's get into the mix here, let's let's make some decisions,

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Speaker 3: work in the phone, seeing what trades are coming through

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Speaker 3: that type of thing. So Andrew does a great job,

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Speaker 3: as you guys can imagine, he's under control, he's got

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Speaker 3: a plan, really does a great job of seeking input,

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Speaker 3: talking to everybody, but making sure that he's got a

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Speaker 3: vision for how he wants this thing to unfold.

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Speaker 4: How happy are you and Shadow Shae when you think

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Speaker 4: about this offseason as a whole. In comes Elijah Moar,

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Speaker 4: in comes Marquis Goodwin, who can still fly. And now

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Speaker 4: with the first pick of the drafts year's ton before

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Speaker 4: you get set Er Tillman sixty three two fifteen dominated

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Speaker 4: elite competition in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, CEO's excited. We're excited.

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Speaker 3: You want good football players, and you want them really

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Speaker 3: at every position. And I think what you do is

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Speaker 3: and see how it all shakes out. That's part of

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Speaker 3: the draft, is you add players into these rooms, and

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Speaker 3: we've talked about it with the with the veterans. You're

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Speaker 3: and you're going to get to know them, and then

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Speaker 3: And I think with rookies, when you put them in

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Speaker 3: And our job is to find the best fit for

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Speaker 3: good problem to have if it's if it's a problem

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Speaker 3: a bunch of good players.

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Speaker 4: How much of a tell is that in terms of

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Speaker 4: the evolution of this offense. Then in essence, we use

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Speaker 4: that you know, we've got Deshaun Watson for a full

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Speaker 5: You've got to be able to score.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean for us, you really try to evolve year

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Speaker 3: We want them on the field. And that's part of

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Speaker 3: as you go into each off season, is throughout. Once

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Speaker 2: Are our guys.

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Speaker 3: How do we want to construct this offense or how

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Speaker 2: And that's part of this.

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Speaker 3: So excited to add those good players and then it's

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Speaker 6: Coach, first of all, let me give you credit because

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Speaker 6: I give credit where credit is due. Love the shoe

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Speaker 7: So y'all got that going for you.

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Speaker 7: They definitely took care of that. Today.

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Speaker 6: I'm a former defensive player, so I want to talk

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Speaker 3: looking to play.

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Speaker 1: What's his athleticism like? Because Andrew talked about playing in

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Speaker 3: Defensively, He's really an impressive athlete for his size. And

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Speaker 3: I think when you see, as we've seen across the league,

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Speaker 2: No, he's not.

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Speaker 3: That's why we're so excited to get our hands on him.

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Speaker 3: Get him up here for rookie mini camp, get to

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Speaker 3: And but part of that is just his athleticism, his

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Speaker 4: Do you talk to like Jacob or Grant and say

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Speaker 3: There are times I didn't speak to those guys about

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Speaker 3: do that. When you say, hey, which receiver gave you problems?

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Speaker 2: Because those players they know.

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Speaker 4: When you look at now adding Dalvin Tomlinson Ika, obviously

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Speaker 4: But when you add guys of that size, when you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's so.

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Speaker 3: It's such a big part of our system is getting

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Speaker 2: And that's where.

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Speaker 3: As you guys know, the defensive line doesn't get a

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Speaker 6: Coach, how do you feel about you know, all of

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Speaker 3: Excited about all those guys. So they're all team players

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Speaker 4: Now, you got Tillman sixty to three, Dpja six to two.

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Speaker 4: you've got smaller guys. Good when who can fly Elijah

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a traits league.

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Speaker 3: I've heard somebody say that before, you know, so having

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Speaker 3: look at what you have available to you and each

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Speaker 1: All right, coach, we thank you very much. Who are

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Speaker 1: you picking tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Good question? Let me ask Andrew, I'll report, I'll report

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Speaker 2: back to you tomorrow real quick.

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Speaker 1: What are the plans like for tomorrow for a day

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Speaker 1: three in an NFL draft?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what we you like to do is

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Speaker 3: get home, all right, rest and then really you reassess.

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Speaker 3: Come the eight am, nine am, you kind of get

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Speaker 3: back in there. You look at the draft board, you

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Speaker 3: kind of see what you've done, who is in front

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Speaker 3: of you, what teams may be doing. Are there any

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Speaker 3: opportunities to move up? Are any opportunities to move back?

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Speaker 3: So I think part of the nice break after round

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Speaker 3: three is let's let's reassess where we are.

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Speaker 2: And what the plan is.

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Speaker 3: And as you can imagine, Andrew's work through all these

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Speaker 3: scenarios over and over and over and again, but once

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Speaker 3: again a good night's rest and look at it again tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Coach.

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Speaker 1: Can't thank you enough for the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, all right, Appreciate you guys,