1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Either folks. It is Wednesday, November nineteenth and heads turned, 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: jaws dropped. In a courtroom yesterday, a man accused of 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: killing and dismembering his wife was set to go on trial, 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: and he pled guilty to dismembering her, but not to 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: killing her. And with that, welcome to this episode of 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. Please explain this one to me. I 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: said that correctly, Yes, he was charged with killing and dismembering. 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: Correct So he technically he pleaded guilty just as jury 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: selection was beginning in court of disposing of her body 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: and misleading police. 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: So he had been charged with three. 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Charges, one for first degree murder, one for disposing of 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: her body, and the third for misleading police. 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: He pled guilty. 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Is the lesser two, but deny and the attorney said, 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: please do not mistake this as him admitting any guilt 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: towards murdering his wife. So they're doubling down, saying don't 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: know what happened to her because, by the way, her 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: body has never been found. 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: They're admitting what was the charge again, the official one 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: is conveying it. 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: He admitted to disposing of and conveying the body of 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Anna Walsh after her death. 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: Essentially moving a body, mistreating a body. All this far 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: reck that thing, right, right, And the reason we're talking 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: about dismembering is because a lot of stuff here involves 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: hatchet and other equipment in this case that we're going 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: to get into. 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: This case is wild, It truly is so. As I mentioned, 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: Anna's body has never been found. She was thirty nine 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: years old, mother to his three boys who were two, four, 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: and six at the time of her disappearance. Again, he 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: is fifty years old. Brian Walsh, Yes, Brian Walsh. So 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: she was last seen on New Year's Day twenty two, 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: twenty three, at a New Year's Eve dinner. She wasn't 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: reported missing until three days later on January fourth. 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, who her missing? Surely her husband was concerned. 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: Surely you would think her husband would have done it. 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: No, her work, her employer reported her missing on January fourth. 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: So when police went to go to. 41 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: Her home and met her husband, they said, where's your 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: wife and he said, beats. 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: Me, there's a trip. 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: She got called back to Washington, d C. 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: On New Year's Day for a work emergency, but her employer, 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: who called police that she was missing, told police, yeah, 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: there was no work emergency, and so he was arrested 48 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: on January eighth, four days later, charged with misleading police, 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: and then later that month he was charged with her murder. 50 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: So the misleading part, obviously, that one makes sense, and 51 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: he pled guilty to Now there's also a reason he 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: would say, okay, you got me on the conveying of 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: a body. Part two. Some of these details, or at 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: least some of the evidence against him sounds like, come on, 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: are you okay? Where should I start with? The with 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: the bags and okay, let's start with that. 57 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 3: Okay. 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: Well, first they found a bloody a bloodstained knife, a 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: damaged bloodstained knife, and some blood in the couple's basement. 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: In the Walsh's basement, there was surveillance video of a 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: man resembling Walsh throwing heavy trash bags into a. 62 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: Dumpster not far from their home. 63 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: Unfortunately for police, that dumpster was in like the contents 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: of it were incinerated by the trash company before they 65 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: could get to the bags. Therefore, her body has never 66 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: been found and looks like it will never be found. 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: But a search of a trash processing. 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Facility, so some of what he threw away didn't get incinerated. 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: They found bags that contained a hatchet, a hacksaw towels, 70 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: a protective tie X suit, cleaning agents, a product purse, 71 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: boots like the ones Anna Walsh was last seen wearing, 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: and a COVID nineteen vaccination card with Anna Walsh's name 73 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: on it. 74 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: Sure does doesn't sound good, doesn't prove he did anything though, right? 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: Correct? 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: So there is more surveillance video of showing Brian purchasing 77 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty dollars in cleaning supplies and tarps 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: on January twod, the day after she went missing. 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: All very coincidental, fine, suspicious. But we have seen a 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of true crime docs that go. 81 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: This way, and there are a lot more details that 82 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: match our true crime jocks like scarily so a lot 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: of times, well all the time, police will go immediately 84 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: into said suspects computer and look for possible clues as 85 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: to what may have happened. They found a treasure trove 86 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: in Brian Walsh's computer. 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: Want to hear some of the searches all right? 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: Here? 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: They are? How long before a body starts to smell? 90 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: Any reason? Why you search that? 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Mmm? I'm not sure last time I googled that? 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: Okay, how to stop a body from decomposing. 93 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: I probably have not done that way. 94 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: Okay, about an hour later. Ten ways to dispose of 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: a dead body if you really need to. 96 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: That is what his search was. 97 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: He's like specific, Like you and some of your complain 98 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: about your searches are too long sometimes. That was very specific. 99 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: How long for someone to be missing to inherit? 100 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Oh? Schnike? 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: Wow, all right? How long? 102 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: How long does DNA last? Damn dude, here's another one. 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: This is all in the same day. By the way, 104 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: can identification be made on partial remains? A few hours later? 105 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: What happens when you put body parts in ammonia? 106 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: Oh? My word? 107 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 2: And the final text from this day again, this was 108 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: the day. 109 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: This is the day in early January before he was arrested. 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: Is it better to put crime scene closed away or 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: wash them? 112 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: It's like he's never even watched CSI. It's like you, 113 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: why would you do that? Okay, that's bizarre. It's almost 114 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: like if he wanted to make an argument that he'd 115 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: been set up, I would listen because I would not 116 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: think anyone's that stupid. Given the days and times that 117 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: we're in on a computer, you know better than this. 118 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: He then in the following days used his son's iPad 119 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: to search more very damning searges. This one was the 120 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: one that really stood out. Can you be charged with 121 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: murder without a body? 122 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: The answer is yes, he has proven that yes, But 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: can you be convicted? That is going to be another 124 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: question that it's going to be tricky. There is nobody 125 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: in this case, and prosecutors will tell you that's a 126 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: tough uphill climb with a jury. They need to know 127 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: these things. They want to know how a person died, 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: where this person and they want to even confirm that 129 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: they are dead. Sometimes that is going to be a 130 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: challenge correct. 131 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: And so that is what and that is the idea 132 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: behind Brian Walsh and his attorney deciding to plead guilty 133 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: to the charges that they were pretty sure prosecutors were 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: going to be able to prove with what I. 135 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: Just read out from shillance video from the. 136 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: Searches, it's pretty clear it would be a tough defense 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: for him to say that he did not get rid 138 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: of his wife's body. With all of that, now here 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: are some of the other complicating factors for Brian Walsh, 140 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: with what the prosecutors have to work with. There was 141 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: a life insurance policy that was recently taken out. 142 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: Allegedly by Anna Walsh herself. 143 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: Apparently she took out a two point seven million dollar 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: life insurance policy and named her husband as the soul beneficiary, 145 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: not her three sons, her husband as the soul beneficiary. 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: No, we have, for all accounts at least that I 147 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: saw she at least they say she did this. Now, 148 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything you tell me otherwise that suggested 149 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: he pushed in some way for this or he was 150 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: behind it. 151 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I think a lot of times the insinuation is 152 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: that maybe he could have encouraged her to do it, 153 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: could have said, hey, let's do this for our kids whatever. 154 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: Who knows, but that certainly doesn't look good for him. 155 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: Life insurance policies usually do point to a potential motive. 156 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: How recent was this I don't know exactly when it was, 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: but they said fairly recently. 158 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a tough one. 159 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: Here's another problem for Brian Walsh or in terms of motive. 160 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Police and prosecutors say they believe they have one. Anna 161 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: was having an affair, according to investigators, and they say 162 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: that before her death, she told her friend that she 163 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: was going to leave her husband, and so that is 164 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: a motive that prosecutors plan to introduce in the trial. 165 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: And again, this is stuff that's out there and they 166 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: are saying this as part of their investigation. And again, 167 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: rope we are we do whether it's snapped or scorned 168 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: or all all these shows we watch, these little episodes 169 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: about love and relationships ending in murder. Everything, every detail 170 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: you have said here is a part of these stories. 171 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: You go within life insurance, you go with an affair, 172 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: you go with dismemberment, you go all these single search Yeah, 173 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: all this adds up to to what we have seen 174 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: plenty of times before. We never try to convict someone publicly. 175 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: He has a right to defend himself. But his argument 176 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: he is saying in court, and it threw some people off, 177 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: but it's his best legal strategy. Yes, got rid of 178 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: her body. No, didn't kill her. I don't know if 179 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: they have to come up with a reason or how 180 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 1: she died. They don't have to. That's actually on the prosecution. 181 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: How did she die? We don't know. 182 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: I wonder how much like I'm imagining being a juror, 183 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: like do you need we could all we're all all 184 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: allowed legally to use our common sense correct? 185 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: Is that the instruction? 186 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: Because I'm just it is curious when you don't have 187 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: a body, when you cannot provide jurors with the manner 188 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: of death, when you cannot say this is what he 189 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: did and this is how he did it, but you 190 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: can prove and he is coping to and conceding that 191 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: he got rid of her body and won't say apparently 192 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: we don't know what his explanation is for why she 193 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: is missing, where is she if he got rid of 194 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: her body. He's just pleading guilty, but he's not filling 195 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: in the details. He's not explaining anything. And as a 196 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: member of a jury, I would imagine that kind of 197 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 2: feels like a pretty easy two plus. 198 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: Two equals for a situation. 199 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Legally, legally, you are not allowed to say, come on, man, 200 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: as a juror, wow, because what we see there, we've 201 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: seen how many times have we seen things in a 202 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: jury go a different direction? Like how the hell they 203 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: come up with that? Yeah, they have a different legal standard. 204 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: So everything we put together, I'll ask you, of all 205 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: we know, is there a reasonable doubt in your mind 206 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: that he is not the killer? If there is a 207 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. This adds up, This adds up, That doesn't 208 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: make sense. Of course he thought this, he did that, 209 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: he had all okay, But if I want to say 210 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: he's not the killer, there has to be a reasonable 211 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: not an unreasonable doubt. A reasonable doubt is that there. 212 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: This will be fascinating to see. I mean, we kind 213 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: of have an idea where the prosecution is going to go, 214 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: and they usually always have more evidence than we're aware of. 215 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: But I'm going to be fascinated to see what the 216 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: defense does. And look, they don't have to The burden 217 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: of proof is on the prosecution. They don't have to 218 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: put up one witness if they don't want to. But 219 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: I am going to be so curious to see what 220 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: their tactic is court, given all that we've just learned 221 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: about this case. So when we come back, we're going 222 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: to tell you why Brian Walsh is already in prison, 223 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: and it's not because of what he's charged with in 224 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: regards to his missing wife, but because of something he's 225 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: already been convicted of. And we're going to tell you 226 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: what happened to those three little boys, and continuing our 227 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: conversation on this trial that is getting underway in the 228 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: state of Massachusetts. 229 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: It is a. 230 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: Fascinating, disturbing and at times when you see the evidence 231 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: against this man, almost it's hard to get your head 232 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: around this murder trial that is going on. Thirty nine 233 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: year old Anna Walsh is missing. Police have never found 234 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: her body, but her husband, Brian Walsh, is on trial 235 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: for her murder. He's admitted to getting rid of her body, 236 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: he's admitted to misleading police, but he won't admit to 237 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: killing her. And so that trial, a jury selection is 238 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: happening as we record this, and we will be following this. 239 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: But here's the deal. Brian Walsh was already in prison 240 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: for another crime, a random, bizarre has nothing to do, 241 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: a non violent crime. 242 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Even he's a apparently not an art thief, but an 243 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: art fraud. 244 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, apparently he was responsible. He was on house 245 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: arrest actually when his wife went missing. He was awaiting 246 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: sentencing for an art fraud case that involved him selling 247 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: two fake Andy Warhol paintings and he got busted for it, 248 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: so he was sentenced to more than three years behind bars. 249 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: He was supposed to pay back almost a half a 250 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 2: million dollars in restitution, so he. 251 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: Was already awaiting sentencing. So he's now serving thirty seven months. 252 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: I believe he had a lot going on. That's not 253 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: a small sentence. That's not a short sentence at all 254 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: for the crime we're talking about. He was about to 255 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: do some hard time. Yeah, so now this on top, 256 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: there was a lot going on in that house. You 257 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: talk about the wife, and you talk about that, and 258 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: I was just asking you during the break remmmy again 259 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: the ages of the kids. Yeah, there are three little boys. 260 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were two, four and six at the time 261 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: she went missing, and that was New Year's Day on 262 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, So add two years to that, they're four, 263 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: six and eight. And because now yes mom is missing, 264 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: presumed dead, and Dad is behind bars and is going 265 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: to be there for quite some time. Even if he 266 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: isn't convicted of a murder charge, he's still looking at 267 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: many many years behind bars. And so yes, they are 268 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: all now in state custody. It is such a tragic story. 269 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: There is another little twist to this. Brian Walsh actually 270 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: was just deemed competent to stand trial. He actually was 271 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: in a mental facility for the past forty days. His 272 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: trial was supposed to start I believe in early October, 273 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: but he was stabbed in prison and then said he 274 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: suffered from PTSD and went through all of these mental evaluations. 275 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: But the judge said, leading up to yesterday's start to 276 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: the trial, you're fine, you are confident, you're going to 277 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: be okay, You're going to face these charges. 278 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: We say, start to the trial. This jury selection. They're 279 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: trying to get sixteen on this jury. They got nine 280 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: at least that we know of, over the past couple days. 281 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: And now, ROGI, you were doing the math there about 282 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: when the trial was supposed to start. I think they're 283 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: going to take a break for the holiday. 284 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: Yes, so it looks like they'll get the jury seated now, 285 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: however long that takes. And then of course we are 286 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: right on Thanksgiving now, so the actual testimony, witness testimony, 287 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: all that is going. 288 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: To begin on December one. 289 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: So we will be on top of this case because 290 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: this looks to be a fascinating, fascinating trial. But thank 291 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: you for listening to us on this Wednesday. I'm Amy 292 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: roback alongside TJ. 293 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: Holmes. We will talk to you soon.