1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to lok F Daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Daniel Moody recording from the Home Bunker. 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: You know, yesterday. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: The Senate passed a ninety five billion dollar aid package 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: that included aid for Ukraine, Israel, and Southeast Asia including Taiwan. 6 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: And inside of that aid package, they decided to also 7 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: ban TikTok if the company is not sold. I think 8 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: that they extended the provision between within nine months to 9 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: a year, you know, on. 10 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: The President's signatures. And I got to. 11 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Tell you something like, and I posted a video on 12 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: this this week, what a load of fucking bullshit? 13 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: Right Like? 14 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Are you all with me on this? Because you have 15 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: how many fucking crises are we dealing with in this country? 16 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: How many fucking crises do we have going on around 17 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: the world. But the only thing that you motherfuckers can 18 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: come together and agree on is to ban an entertainment 19 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and information app because you want to tell us that 20 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: what it is about privacy and spying? Are you dumb? 21 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Because we already know that all of the platforms that 22 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: we're on, including the ones that were not on, but 23 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: the federal government listens into on a regular basis, it's 24 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: doing more fucking spying and manipulation than TikTok is, or 25 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: it's about the fucking same. So is it just that 26 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: you don't have access to the data that is being 27 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: collected on top of the data that you're already collecting 28 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: on us. It just makes no fucking sense. And the 29 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: only thing that makes sense to me about it, frankly, 30 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: is the fact that this generation, right, this young generation 31 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: Generation Z, is with the shits, do you know what 32 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like, they are so on it in terms 33 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: of challenging capitalism and work culture and labor. They are 34 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: so on it in recognizing the hypocrisy as it pertains 35 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: to fighting for democracy and what that looks like here 36 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: in the United States versus elsewhere. They are so with 37 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: it in understanding the colonist's mindset and patriarchy, and they 38 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: are on that app right at a larger rate than 39 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: anyone else's. So what is this really about? Because we're 40 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: being manipulated, folks every single day in every single way. 41 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Open up your refrigerator. Do we really know what's in 42 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: the food that's in there? No, Because in these United 43 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: States you can have a certain percentage of shit that 44 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: causes cancer. The ingredients that are banned, let's say in 45 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: a Europe, totally welcomed here in the United States. So 46 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: when we're looking at the decisions that these lawmakers are making, 47 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with our best interest, but 48 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with our safety, because I'd 49 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: love to put a whole bunch of those members into 50 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: a room and lock the fucking door and until they 51 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: come up with an agreement on an assault weapons ban, 52 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: a national protection for abortion, do away with a white supremacy, 53 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: fully fund our schools in the way that they need 54 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: to be funded, come up with a healthcare plan that 55 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: has us on par with other developed nations, and guess what, 56 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: you don't get to come out until you do. But 57 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: the one thing that they want to come to the 58 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: table on and come to a bipartisan agreement with is TikTok. 59 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: Miss me with the bullshit. Coming up next, friends, we 60 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show doctor Suzanne Lachman, and we 61 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: get into a conversation about Donald Trump, about his cultish followers, 62 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: our own personal emotional well being during this time of torment, 63 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: and how we manage our way through That conversation is 64 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: coming up next, Folks, I am very happy to welcome 65 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: back to WOKF Daily doctor Suzanne Lochman, who is a psychologist, 66 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: who is a writer, whose new piece or most recent 67 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: piece up at Substack is entitled is Donald Trump's Declining 68 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: speech due to aging or dementia? Trump is increasingly losing 69 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: his train of thought in the middle of sentences. But 70 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: where I want to start with you today, doctor Lockman, 71 00:05:50,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: is on Donald Trump's staunch supporters. Yes, Donald Trump, there 72 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 1: is something that this man knows about his people, how 73 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: to sell to them, whether it is selling lies, selling bibles, sneakers, 74 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is that he's trying to hawk at the moment, 75 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: but he knows that there is some type of inexplicable 76 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: connection that they have that not only do they take 77 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: everything that he says to be true, even if he 78 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: is not making any sense, not coherent, but they will 79 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: also open their own pockets to support a billionaire. Talk 80 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: to me about these people and what you see and know. 81 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: The first thing that goes through my head, Danielle, is 82 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: what we've heard a number of times now, and it's 83 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: what his first wife said, which is that he keeps 84 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: Hitler's gold mind come by his bed, and that is 85 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: Hitler's autobiography, and it talks about how he came into 86 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: power and the rules like you need to repeat everything 87 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: forcefully three times in order for it to stick. The 88 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: people that he and Donald Trump is appealing to the 89 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: most base ugliness of a certain group of people, which 90 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: is just like the Nazis. I'm sorry to say, only 91 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: I think in this case there are a lot of 92 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: people that are way dumber than than the Nazis were. 93 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: A lot of them are a few I think I've 94 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: said to you before, and I stand by this, that 95 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: there's people who are incapable of saying that they're wrong 96 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: mm hmm. And therefore they're on this ship with him 97 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: no matter what. If you actually sit and listen to him, 98 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 2: he can sound really convincing, especially because he's delusional enough 99 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: to believe himself. And when you speak with force that way, 100 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: and you repeat yourself and it's the same messages over 101 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: and over and over, you're gonna win over people. And again, 102 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: I think the fact and that and they were just 103 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: talking about this earlier that the judged today, even though 104 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: he was just sending out tweets that go against a 105 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: gag order that the judge isn't going to address this 106 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: for another ten days, which doesn't do much to help 107 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: people to see him as human as opposed to superhuman. Right, 108 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: he really has managed, no matter what he's done, yeah, 109 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: to appear above the law, and that makes it easier 110 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: for these people who already are drawn in by hatred 111 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: and division, which he is doubling and tripling down on 112 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 2: every chance he gets. He had a name for Letitia 113 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: James that was just so racist in one of his 114 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: most recent rallies, not like Peekaboo Peekaboo James. People were 115 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: laughing in the audience. Yep, he didn't start out as 116 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: overtly racist. But he's gone along and he sees who 117 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: his base supporters are. He is joining them, and they 118 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: are joining him more strongly than ever. And those who 119 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: are sort of on the fence or not that bright 120 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: see a leader who they can identify with because they 121 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,359 Speaker 2: feel like they're being persecuted. 122 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: But I guess the question that I have is it 123 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: seems to me that it is enough just to have 124 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: a leader that is in the same book, on the 125 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: same page as you in terms. 126 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: Of who you hate. 127 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: But when I look at a leader and I say, 128 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: how is this person actually changing my life right? Like? 129 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Is that not the question that most of us ask? 130 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: Like? 131 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: How is my life going to be better? Making a 132 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: decision in an upcoming election. I'm making a decision, let's say, 133 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: about what college I want to go to, and I'm seeing, well, 134 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: one school offers this and the other one offers this, Well, 135 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: which one is going to best suit me to help 136 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: shift my life? They're not looking through this lens, So, 137 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: doctor Lachman, I have a difficulty in understanding if they're 138 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: not gaining anything, how does the opposition even begin to 139 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: reach these people? Or and I know that I ask 140 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: you this every time we talk. Or are they just 141 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: gone forever? 142 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: They're gone? They are unreachable. As I examine the different 143 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: kinds of people that are engaged with him, involved with him, etc. 144 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: Into him, it occurs to me that there are number 145 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: of them. For example, in the New York City Fire Department, 146 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: there are a lot of blue collar workers that are 147 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: pro Trump. And what I figured out about them, and 148 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: this probably goes for a lot of other professions too, 149 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: where you have an enormous amount of structure at work, 150 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: You know where you're what's happening, you know when things 151 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: are happening. You know what you're supposed to do, but 152 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: when you get out into your home life, into the 153 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: real world, you have no idea. There are a lot 154 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: of people drawn to very structured jobs because they're lost 155 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 2: in the kinds of things that you're talking about. They 156 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: don't they're not projecting into what the future will look like. 157 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: They are not actually either believing that Biden is erasing 158 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: two point seven billion dollars of student debts. They have 159 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: him vilified beyond vilified. And the fact that, for example, 160 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: there are so many New York City firefighters who are 161 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: Irish Catholic and come from background similar to Biden's, makes 162 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: the whole thing even more mind blowing, right, m hmm. 163 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: But it really has to do with the fact that 164 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: there's also a lot of anger out there, and a 165 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: good amount of it has well, it's always been there, 166 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: but Trump has really just thrown a hot towel on 167 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: a boil and it has grown. It will eventually and 168 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: this is such a disgusting reference. I'm sorry, it will 169 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: eventually pop, but it's still going. 170 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the pop for a moment, right, because 171 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: with every trial, with every charge, with every headline, we 172 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: say those of us we on Earth one. This is 173 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: going to be the breaking point. This is going to 174 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: be the thing that finally finishes Trump off, finishes this 175 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: movement off and it never does right. Which goes on 176 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: to your earlier point of being able to continually ascend 177 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: above the law and have this superpower you know, attributed 178 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: to you and your actions and your words. What in 179 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: your mind when you say it'll eventually pop, it'll eventually crash. 180 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: Everything that goes up has to come down. But it's 181 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: been fifty years of this with Donald Trump, do you 182 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: know in his life, it's been the last seven years 183 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: of our lives in this country. What does the pop 184 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: look like to you? What do you think it is. 185 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: I've thought it was going to be a number of 186 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: things that it so far hasn't been. But I am 187 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: not giving up hope. One of the things now, he's 188 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: turning everything into a campaign rally, and I think that's 189 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: to divert himself from the shame of having the fact 190 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: that that he doesn't have the kind of money that 191 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: he's supposed to have. He did that kind of information 192 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: becoming available to the public is beyond mortifying and emasculating 193 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: to him. That is his Achilles sword Achilles, thank you exactly. 194 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: That's along with his bonesbur that's one of them. He 195 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: cannot stand the idea of people finding this out now, 196 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: that is not a thing in this trial. So even 197 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: though he's exhausted and falling asleep and using it to 198 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: continue to bring his point home that he's basically Jesus 199 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: being persecuted yep, on the cross and Jesus with gold sneakers. 200 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: I don't think he did that well with the gold sneakers. 201 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: Not sure how he did with the Bibles. 202 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: And currently while we're talking, his stock is dropping faster 203 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: and faster like it. It's it's really amazing. 204 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: Right it is. 205 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: It is right now. I think below twenty five dollars 206 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: his share. 207 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: The kind of stuff his people don't pay attention to. 208 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: Mm hmm right. Okay. If you watched enough of like 209 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: Jordan Klepper from The Daily Show interviewing Trump groupies, h 210 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: you will see the complete and total ignorance of what 211 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: the United States stands for, anything about the history of 212 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: the United States, Why exactly Joe Biden is bad, why 213 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: Trump is good, It's a lot of well I just 214 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: know it, I just feel it. I know this to 215 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: be true. It's unquestioning the uh, you know, the term 216 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: drink the kool aid, I don't know, you know, it's 217 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: kind of old, and hopefully everybody knows that it's a 218 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: reference to Jim Jones, right, the cult leader. Yeah, a 219 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: cult leader who got a whole lot of people to die. 220 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: There are people who are highly suggestible out there, and 221 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: Trump's got them wrapped around his finger. And because he 222 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: has such a huge pulpit and so many ways to 223 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 2: be seen, he's able to grab more and more of 224 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: this vulnerable audience, which consists of people who have been 225 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: terribly traumatized in their lives. I think I've mentioned that before. 226 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: I think if you look below the surface, there's a 227 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: lot of abuse that's been perpetrated on Trump survivors, and 228 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: probably they're just perpetrating it themselves, which makes all of 229 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: this stuff he does all the more excusable. There are 230 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: there is a higher threshold for abuse. Nafty language is 231 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: condonable because that's what happens in their household. Giving women power, 232 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: as we've learned, is a horribly threatening to many a 233 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: Trump supporter, and you know, those the ugliness of that 234 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: is coming out of the woodworks. And I think one 235 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: of the reasons for that is the idea that when 236 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: you think of God, you think of a man. When 237 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: you think of a head of household, you think of 238 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: a man, When you think of commander in chief, what 239 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: do you think of man? So the fact that Democrats 240 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: have a bigger, wider tent and try to empower women, 241 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: that it, unfortunately is a hugely divisive issue, so much 242 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: so that when a very experienced white woman ran against 243 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: a black man, the black man won fantastic. He was 244 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: a wonderful president, but not the deep. 245 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: But the deep seated misogyny in this country definitely played 246 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: a part. And the misogyny plays I think a central 247 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: role in trump Ism, right, And I mean you saw 248 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: it with the pushback to Nikki Haley, who was trying 249 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: to present, you know, an alternative to Donald Trump, and 250 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, Republican voters said, I wouldn't vote for her. 251 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: Why because she's a woman, and I don't think that 252 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: women should be have the time, I watched a number 253 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: of Trump, a number of Republican Trumps supporters say these things, 254 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: and so I just I wonder, then, if we don't 255 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: have a pop moment soon, doctor Lockman, then what do 256 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: you think happens? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, 257 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: what do you think happens? 258 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: I know that I said, and you weren't around for this, 259 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: that there was no way that he could win in 260 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. And I'm not the only one who said that. 261 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: He got beaten in twenty twenty by seven million votes. 262 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: There's no way that he has gained that many followers. 263 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: I know it can see that way. It's just because 264 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: they're loud, and it's because many of them are from 265 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: Russia and China and they're just antagonists. They can't vote 266 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: right right, So in the in terms of the youth vote, 267 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: in terms of the woman vote, what's what really bummed 268 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: me out in twenty sixteen was I thought, for sure 269 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: women would rally against another woman, right, and there were 270 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: so many who didn't. And unfortunately, there are a lot 271 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: of misogynistic women out there. 272 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: Yep. 273 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: I think that he's alienated at least some of them 274 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: more than he had in twenty sixteen. I think the 275 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: Roe v. Wade issue has taken away some of his followers, 276 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: as evidenced by the fact that all of these elections 277 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: that have taken place have all gone Democrat, you know, 278 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: the interim elections, even in the deep Republican areas like 279 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: in Alabama there was one, which is wild. But nonetheless 280 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: there's the pop. I don't know what it's going to be. 281 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't think any of us know what to be. 282 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be as unfortunately, like a slow. 283 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: Ooze rather than a quick pop. 284 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: Oh god. Yeah, and it started the wheels of justice 285 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: grind slow. And the thing about Democrats, and I think 286 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: we're seeing this play out, is that they are terribly 287 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: interested in looking fair fair. It's maddening, but the hope 288 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: is that in the long term that means that their 289 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: decisions will be more respected. Whether or not that's true, 290 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's what they're doing, and hopefully 291 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: it will ring true at least for some people. Once 292 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: he's declared guilty of yet something else and they figure 293 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: out what the hell to do with Eileen Cannon, which 294 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: is just insane in Washington, DC, and they can get 295 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: the Georgia thing on track. All of this is also 296 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: exhausting him. 297 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's fair, that's a that's a that's 298 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: a fair point that while we're because I'm concentrated on 299 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: our exhaustion, right, the collectives exhaustion. But to your point 300 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: that it's also exhausting him. 301 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and we are seeing that in his rallies. Uh. 302 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 2: It's the thing that you know, I'm focusing on is 303 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: the fact that I see him becoming demented. He is 304 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: developing dementia before our eyes. 305 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: My only pushback to you is because you don't have 306 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: a direct ability to diagnose him. But others have said this, 307 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: you're not. Obviously you're not the only person that has 308 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: said this. But then we see this same similar conversation 309 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: happening with Biden, you know, from the right. Tell me, 310 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: tell me what the difference is. I guess with the 311 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: with the few minutes that we have left gladly. Uh. 312 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: Doctor John Gartner from the group Duty to Warren said 313 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: it best. Biden is aging and Trump is dementing. If 314 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: you watch the State of the Union, for example, Biden, 315 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: he might have gotten a little fatigued, he might have 316 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: stumbled over his words, but he made perfect sense. He 317 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: could follow up every point that he made, and he 318 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: has a deep and thorough knowledge that is something that 319 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: no one can debate. That guy Robert HRR tried to 320 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: take that away from him and say, you know, he's 321 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: a feeble old man who. 322 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: Doesn't remember a special counsel. 323 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, and got laughed out of the room because 324 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: he does trump. On the other hand, if you listen 325 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: to him at these rallies, he is literally manifesting symptoms 326 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: of dementia. Now, can I officially say he has dementia? No? 327 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 2: And I say, it certainly looks like these are signs. 328 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: And hey, guess what. We have way more ability, way 329 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: more stuff that we can look at than we've ever 330 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: had with patients. I've never had this much information about 331 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: patients when I've made a diagnosis. 332 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: Right, like tapes and like video and tapes and audio 333 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: and all of these things over the course of months 334 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: or years to be able to play back baseline. 335 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: We have baseline like we don't baseline meaning when he 336 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: was higher functioning, which you don't often have when you're 337 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: diagnosing somebody who's come in for, you know, to find 338 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: out if they got some kind of dementia. We've got baseline, 339 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: and we're able to see his erosion in functioning. All 340 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: you have to do is watch a rally and you'll 341 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 2: see the word salad or you'll hear it. Yeah, that 342 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: he doesn't rely how he started a sentence to know 343 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: where to end it, and he meanders. The second he 344 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: goes off script, he's gone. He has something he called 345 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: phonic aphasia, where he's merging words together. That is not 346 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: something you hear Biden do. And that so anyone that's 347 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: listening to this podcast right now they if you listen 348 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: to any it's horrible to do or just look at 349 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: the clips that demonstrate Yeah, Primes when he's mushed words together, 350 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: that isn't just fatigue. That is fatigue, but it's also 351 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: the beginning of something more severe. Not to mention that 352 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: his father had Alzheimer's oh uh huh okay, officially diagnosed 353 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: known his father. 354 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, well we will leave it there today, Doctr Lockman. 355 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: Really appreciate you making the time as always for wok 356 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: F Daily, and I just want to remind folks up 357 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: on sub stack Dr Lockman's Peace entitled is Donald Trump's 358 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: declining speech due to aging or dementia? Trump is increasingly 359 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: losing his train of thought in the middle of sentences. 360 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Is up now. 361 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: Really appreciate you absolutely. I'm glad to come back and 362 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: do part two of this and three and four. Oh, 363 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: thank you. 364 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: That is it for me today. Dear friends on wok 365 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: f as always, Power to the people and to all 366 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.