1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: I only had my first tour in twenty twenty one, 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: so just like a few years ago now, and then 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: I would meet people after the merch booth and they 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: say like, oh, like this really, I feel like you 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: wrote this about me, or like this really touched me. 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: And then I guess I kind of realized, like, whoa, 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: I guess I'm affecting people. And it was a little 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: bit surprising to me because I just never like experienced 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: that or knew that that was possible in that way. 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Music Saved Me, the podcast where we 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: explored the transformative power of music and the stories of 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: artists who have found hope, healing, and connection through their art. 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman, and today we are joined 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm so excited by a truly special guest, Lolo Now. 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: Lolo is a singer, songwriter and rising pop powerhouse. We're 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: talking like thirty five million streams already on that's just 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: on Spotify alone. Her raw honesty, her infectious melodies, and 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the way she turns real life heartbreak into hope and 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: into forgettable songs is like nothing I've ever heard before. 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: My personal fave Hot Girls in Hell and it's just unbelievable. 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: From our early days as a self proclaimed theater kid 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: in Toronto to making waves on TikTok and touring with 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: pop punk legends, Lolo's journey is literally as inspiring as 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: her music is now. Whether you're a lifelong fan or 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: just discovering Lolo, where have you been? This conversation is 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: a testament to the power of music to save, connect, 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: and uplift us all. So turn up the volume and 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: join us as we dive in to the story of 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: how music saved Lolo. Lolo, welcome to Music Save Me. 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm so psyched to meet you. 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Hello, it's nice to meet you. Thank you so much 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: for having me. 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: Can you share a little bit about your musical journey 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: with our listeners? What first drew you to music as 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: a form of expression. 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Well, I guess it would be a mix of two things. 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how I ended up with this as 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: a child, but I just remember my first was a 40 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Green Day CD. He was an American idiot and I 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: just used to like be obsessed with that. I was 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: obsessed with that and Averri Levigne. But at the same 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: time I was also a huge theater kid, and I 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: remember I was like in all these like I used 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: to watch actually Shirley Temple videos with my grandfather and 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: I just like wanted to be her. I happened to 47 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: have the exact same hair as her, my natural hairs 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: really curly wow, and at the time it was short 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: and curly, and I was like, oh, I have to 50 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: just be that. And so I like begged my mom 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: to put me into singing lessons and tap dancing lessons 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: and acting classes. So that kind of is where I 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: started out. So I was like this, like liked punk music, 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: I guess, but also like super theater kid, so it 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: was kind of like a mix of both, which I 56 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: guess kind of you know, makes sense of the person 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: I am today. 58 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, but Shirley Temple, I mean that's that was 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: very unexpected answer. 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I yeah. My grandfather used to show me all 61 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: of it, and I was like obsessed with her. I 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: thought she was so cool. Her and Billy dar Armstrong. 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, those yeah. 64 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: Perfect combinations, Like who would have ever put that together. 65 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: That's like not chocolate and peanut butter at all. 66 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's so random, But like I think 67 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: it really did end up affecting me in like I 68 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: feel like I was influenced by both of those things, 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: and I feel like today i'm kind of just like 70 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, I like to rock out, but very emotional 71 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: and dramatic and so just. 72 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah, what's the most interesting or unexpected 73 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: place your music has taken you so far? 74 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: Hmmm? Interesting, like like actual place that I've visited. Yeah, Well, actually, 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: I just found out today that I'm going to be 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: going to Newfoundland, which I'm super excited about because, as 77 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: I said, theater kid and I love the play Come 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: from Away. I think it's amazing. So I'm really excited 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: to do that because I heard that like you actually 80 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: get to go and kiss the fish and do all 81 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: that stuff. So I would say that is an unexpected 82 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: but very exciting thing that I'm doing. But I mean 83 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: music has taken me all over. Look, I've into so 84 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: many cities in Europe and all over the US, Canada, 85 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: but I mean, for some reason, Newfoundland just sticks out 86 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: as cool. Yeah, unexpected. 87 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, You're about to embark on a massive US tour, 88 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: that is what I heard has sold out. That's an 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: incredible feat for a new artist, Like that's huge. Yeah, 90 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: does that make you nervous at all or are you 91 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: excited to? 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well so I actually I did my US tour 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: but which was sold out, so that already happened. But 94 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: I have a US tour this summer with simple Plan 95 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: opening for them, which was another one of my idols 96 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: growing up, so it's just so exciting. But for my 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: own show, like, yeah, I had so much anxiety, honestly 98 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: because I have been an opener so many times and 99 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure, like can I sell tickets to my 100 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: own show because you never really know, like you don't 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: know if you like passive listeners or their fans of you, 102 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: but you know they'll go to see you open for someone, 103 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: but they don't necessarily want to go to your own show. 104 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was a little stressed out putting that 105 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: up for sale. But it all sold out and it 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: went amazing, and it was honestly even more rewarding obviously 107 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: than opening because it was like my own show. All 108 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: of the whole room was filled with my fans. You know, 109 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: everyone is screaming my lyrics, So it was quite the experience. 110 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: I bet congratulations on that. 111 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Thank you. 112 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Do you have a go to song or artist that 113 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: always lifts your spirits when you need it or when 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: you're having a bad day. 115 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: Honestly, I kind of go back to that Green Day 116 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: record that was my first CD. I don't know if 117 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: it's because like it's nostalgic, as when I listened to it, 118 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: I kind of like feel like a little kid that 119 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: had no worries because I was like a seven year 120 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: old and it kind of reminds me of that. Maybe, 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: but that is definitely something like normally, if I'm ever 122 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: upset or stressed, I kind of just like press plan 123 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: American Idiot and listen to it front to back. Also 124 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: really random, the song Grace Kelly by Mika always gets 125 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 2: me going. I know that's such a random answer whenever 126 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: people ask me that, but there's just something about that 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: song I really like. 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of something about that song, you have a 129 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: new EP out called Possibilities. 130 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: That was the deluxe version of my album that got 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: released called Falling for Robots and Wishing I Was One, 132 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: but Possibility was the single. 133 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, great artwork on that, by the way, not just 134 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: so much the video, the artwork on the album, which 135 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: which like these are just small details that get so 136 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: lost nowadays that are coming back and I'm I'm so 137 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: grateful to you for doing that. Can you tell us 138 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: a little about the song. 139 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the song is basically about the possibility of 140 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: someone hurting you because you know, you're kind of scarred 141 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: from before and you've found someone that you're into or 142 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: in love with or whatever and it's going great, but 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: there's just like this little voice of the back of 144 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: your head that's like, well, you know, they could hurt you. 145 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: They it could end up terrible, and it kind of 146 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: starts to almost taint and ruin like something that's good. 147 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: And it's kind of like about that battle within yourself 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: to you know, you should just be able to relax 149 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: and be like I'm happy now, everything's fine, but like 150 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: sometimes I know I have this a lot, like there's 151 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: just this boys in the back of my head being like, well, 152 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: it could go wrong any second now, And so it's 153 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: kind of about that. It's about like I'm in a 154 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: happy relationship now, and something about that is really scary 155 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: because I'm like, well, any second he has the power 156 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: to just like hurt me, and something about that is 157 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: really terrifying. 158 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I when you mentioned that, I think anyone can 159 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: go back in their life and think about moments like that, 160 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: and you know it is scary. It's scary to take 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: a risk on someone else. Yes, And you just explain 162 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: that so beautifully in your songwriting. How do you coach 163 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: writing or performing music either or when maybe you might 164 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: be experiencing something like that emotional or a mental health challenge. 165 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: Honestly, I try to just be like as authentic as 166 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: possible and just kind of go for it where like 167 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: and not hide anything and kind of just like put 168 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: myself fully out there. I find that to be like 169 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: the most therapeutic for me, and like it ends up 170 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say ironically, but I guess it's not ironic, 171 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: but like it ends up being the most therapeutic for 172 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: my audience too. When I do that, and when I 173 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: like just you know, write exactly what I'm feeling and 174 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: not try to sugarcoat it or you know, water it 175 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: down or anything, I feel like that's when people relate 176 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: the most weirdly. I mean not weirdly. I guess that 177 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: makes sense, But in my head I would be like, oh, 178 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: maybe this is too much whatever, maybe I shouldn't say this, 179 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: But I feel like anytime I just end up going 180 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: for it. It just kind of works. 181 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: Oh, you go for it. I think that's what really 182 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: gets people is that you're you're so list thank you 183 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: not only just in your writing, but in your performance 184 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: of the song. You're telling us exactly how we're feeling. 185 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: Did you know that, That's what I mean? When was 186 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the first time you've sort of realized that your music 187 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: really touched on that nerve and people. 188 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: I guess I didn't. I didn't realize that honestly until 189 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: I started performing the songs and meeting the fans after. 190 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: So like I only had my first tour in twenty 191 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: twenty one, so just like a few years ago now, 192 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: and then I would meet people after at the merch 193 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: booth and they would say like, oh, like this really 194 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: I feel like you wrote this about me, or like 195 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: this really touched me. And then I guess I kind 196 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: of realized, like, whoa, I guess I'm affecting people. And 197 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: it was a little bit surprising to me because I 198 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: just never like experienced that or knew that that was 199 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: possible in that way. And it's funny because I used 200 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: to try to write songs like I used to make 201 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: a conscious effort back in the day, like I need 202 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: to make this relatable and like what people would understand. 203 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: And I feel like I did try to like dumb 204 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: it down or water it down, and I wasn't going 205 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: into such specifics with my older music. And then when 206 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: I you know, hawkgirls in Hell for example, what you mentioned, 207 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: I'm so specific talking about such a specific person and 208 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: such a specific instance. And I feel like that was 209 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: the first song that everyone was like, you wrote this 210 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: about my ex, like this, how how are you in 211 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: my brain? And I'm like, wow, that was like the 212 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: most specific first verse ever, and for some reason it 213 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: really hit people. So now I'm just like, Okay, I 214 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: guess we all kind of lived a shared experience or 215 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: something about being specific to me just hits people. I 216 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: guess like they could see it for themselves, which is 217 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: really cool. 218 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: So that's I think called being completely authentic, like thank you. 219 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: There's no you know, fake stuff for you know, like 220 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: you said, watering it down to it must have been 221 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: a shocking moment for you to realize that though, that 222 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: you could be that raw and real and not worry 223 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: about the consequences and feel that back at you. But 224 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm old, and that song took me back 225 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: to when I was, you know, in high school and 226 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, this guy was being a total jerk, and 227 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know what to do about it, 228 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I can only imagine the experiences that 229 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: you had, but it definitely spoke to me years later. 230 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: So there's your. 231 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: Audience right there. Well, I love that. I love to 232 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: hear that. Hate to hear about that guy, but love 233 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: to hear it that you. 234 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: I know, who cares whatever happened to him? What was? 235 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: What would you says a pivotal moment in your life 236 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: that you know shaped who you are as an artist? 237 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: Age can you pinpoint any one moment? 238 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like this first headline tour that I 239 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: just did, so it started in October of twenty twenty four, 240 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: so just like six months ago. I guess that was 241 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: the first time that I kind of really like, I've 242 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: I've performed sets before like thirty forty minutes, but that 243 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: was the first time that I really, I think, like 244 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: brought my album to life and like made a show 245 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: of all my music and you know it kind of 246 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: like had a story all to it. And that was 247 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: the first time that I like looked out into the 248 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: audience of full filled with people that were there to 249 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: just see me and that were connecting with my music, 250 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: and I was kind of like looking out and I 251 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: remember like the first night, I was really fucking nervous, 252 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: so I was like, oh my god, Like I get 253 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: really bad imposter syndrome. I'm always like, oh, well, this 254 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: isn't This isn't a real concert because I'm performing, So 255 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: there's no way, Like this isn't the kind of concert 256 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: that I would go to because I'm performing, so it's 257 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: like a fake concert. It's like not as professional. I 258 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: always think that in my head for some reason. But 259 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: I was kind of just like, Nope, this is a concert, 260 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: and I was. I would every night before I went 261 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: on stage. I started the first night because it made 262 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: me feel better. But I would just picture like young me, 263 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: like dancing in the basement or singing performing to my 264 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: parents the Green Day record and just her freaking out 265 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: and being like, oh my god, like are we doing this? 266 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: Are we about to get on stage in front of 267 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: all those people? And I'm like, yeah, you got this girl. 268 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: And then I would go on stage and it would 269 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: just really help me with the nerves and stuff, just 270 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: be like I got this. I got this, But that 271 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: was a really pivotal moment. I think that I realized, like, 272 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: oh look, I actually this is a real concert and 273 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm a real artist and I can't have imbuster syndrome. 274 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: So I would say that that whole tour would be 275 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: the moment. Yeah, especially that first show in October. 276 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: Do you think music has healing powers? 277 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, Like, no doubt. I mean I 278 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: hear it from everyone, And even if I didn't hear 279 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: it from people about my music, I know, like I 280 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: have personally been there with other people's music. So like, 281 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: it's so interesting doing this and being on this side 282 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: of things because I feel like for so long, like 283 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: growing up, I was on the other side, and I 284 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: was a fan and I was going to concerts and 285 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: I was like getting saved by other people's music. So 286 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: that's why really like HiT's even harder to think that 287 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: I could possibly be that person for other people, because 288 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: like I know how it feels to be on the 289 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: other side, and I'm like, holy shit, And that's where 290 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: the impostor syndrome really comes from, because it's crazy to think, 291 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: like it almost sounds like cocky to say, or like 292 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: weird to say, like, yeah, I'm affecting people, Like, that's 293 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: a weird sentence to say for me, because I feel 294 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: like I've been on the other side. 295 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: So no, the impostor thing I can relate to. I 296 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: had a job once in television years ago, VH one, 297 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: and I was so scared I almost called them to 298 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: tell them I didn't want to come in because I 299 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: felt like I was an impostor. I told my whole family, 300 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just reading a script here, i don't 301 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. No, it happens to a 302 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: lot of people, and you're not. That's not an unusual thing. 303 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you're past that now, because wow, 304 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: you are not an impostor. What inspires you to keep 305 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: creating even even on the hard days, like when it's 306 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: really hard to even be inspired. 307 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: I would say, just well, there's a few things. One 308 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: kind of knowing that there there's other people wanting me 309 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: to create and waiting for me to create, which is 310 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: a little bit like pressure. I feel like sometimes I 311 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: feel like, oh, like, what would happen if I just 312 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: like quit music today? There would be a lot of 313 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: people that would be sad or like expecting things for me, 314 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: but then that's also not healthy because I need to 315 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: do things also for me. But what inspires me to 316 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: keep going, I guess and creating on days that I 317 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: don't want to create, is that, like I feel like 318 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: creating is the only thing that kind of makes me 319 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: feel better. So when I am in those slums of 320 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: like not wanting to work, or feeling uninspired and just 321 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: like feeling mentally not there or like down or whatever, 322 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: I know that writing it out is honestly going to 323 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: make me feel better. So just creating in general ends 324 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: up doing the trick always for me. I just like 325 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: am that kind of person, I guess, So that would 326 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: probably be the main thing. 327 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: And what messages do you hope listeners take away from 328 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: your music, you know, especially those who might be facing 329 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: their own challenges. What would you like them to know? 330 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: I hope they know that it's just like they're not 331 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: alone in any of this. We're all kind of going 332 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: through it in our different ways. And you know, my 333 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: whole album that I put out last year, it's called 334 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Falling for Robots and Wishing I was one, And it's 335 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: about like either having experiences with people who don't seem 336 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: to have a heart, or wishing that you kind of 337 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: didn't have such a big heart yourself, because sometimes it's 338 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: really hard to feel things so hard, and it's like 339 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: I wish I was just a little bit more numb 340 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: so I could just like go through life and I 341 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: could be a robot. But I feel like the whole 342 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: theme of the album and something a message that I 343 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: really want to push through is that like it's okay 344 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: to feel things. It's okay to not be perfect and 345 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: to just have all these emotions or be sensitive because 346 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: that is what makes us human and it's normal and 347 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: that's just life. So I hope that they listen to 348 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: the songs and realize that they're not a robot. They 349 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: are a human and we're not perfect and we feel 350 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: things and that's okay. 351 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's a beautiful thing to end this podcast with today. 352 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: It is truly an honor to be able to talk 353 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: to you, and I'm gosh so excited to watch your 354 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: star continue to rise, although I do I'm not sure 355 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: that there's much room to go up any higher, I hope, so, 356 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: but keep that energy that you have and don't lose it, 357 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: because it's always hard when you feel like you have 358 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: to reinvent yourself, but when you're truly authentic like you, 359 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: you're never going to have a problem with that. Best 360 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: of luck to you, Lo Lo. Thanks for coming on music, 361 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: save me and keep in touch for sure. 362 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.