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Speaker 1: I Am all in Again.

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Speaker 2: Lets you, I Am all in Again with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 2: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hey Everybody, Scott Pounderson, I Am all In Podcast one

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Speaker 3: eleven productions, Iheartrated Media, iHeart Podcast Special edition of Luke

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Speaker 3: Steiner with the one and only Tamaron Haul joining us today.

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Speaker 3: A two time Emmy Award winning television hosts, veteran journalist,

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Speaker 3: and best selling author, Tameron is also the executive producer

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Speaker 3: of her ACCLAIM talk show, Tamaron Hall Beyond the Newsroom.

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Speaker 1: She has a passion for the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: Which led to the release of her cookbook last year,

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Speaker 3: and just a few days ago, she launched her latest

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Speaker 3: children's book, Harlem Honey, The Adventures of a Curious Kid,

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Speaker 3: So be sure to check it out. Without further ado,

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Speaker 3: please welcome Tamaron Hall. Hello, Tamaran, Hi Scott, how are

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Speaker 3: you good.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. You've got a book out that's exciting.

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Speaker 1: Look at that great cover. Everybody go out and get this.

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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about this book.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you. You know what it is? Called a

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Speaker 4: heart Harlem Honey, The Adventure of a Curious Kid. It's

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Speaker 4: a book inspired by my curious kid who is now

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Speaker 4: five years old, and I am about thirty minutes from

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Speaker 4: seeing him participate in his first school musical. And how

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Speaker 4: that ties into the show, Scott, is that early on,

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Speaker 4: my son, like so many kids, are what we refer

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Speaker 4: to those pandemic kids, and that means not that necessarily

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Speaker 4: were born at that time, is that you were a

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Speaker 4: kid under the age of eighteen whose life was upended

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Speaker 4: by this once in a lifetime event. And Moses was

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Speaker 4: almost a year old, and suddenly we found ourselves smaller.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're not visiting cousins and grandparents and friends

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Speaker 4: and play dates and birthday parties. And by the time

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Speaker 4: life changed and reopened for us, I realized my son

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Speaker 4: was too and hadn't gone to a birthday party. We

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Speaker 4: go to the birthday party, the kid that I see

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Speaker 4: at home, who is outgoing and running around, is frozen

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Speaker 4: then we see it more and more, and then we'd

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Speaker 4: see it at the grocery store, and I noticed that

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Speaker 4: too it was interrupting his joy, interrupting this and I

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Speaker 4: noticed that early on. So this book was really about

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Speaker 4: how to face those fears and how to help have

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Speaker 4: that conversation that fear is normal, fear is healthy. But

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Speaker 4: So Harlem Honey, is this adventure of discovering the first

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Speaker 4: place I think we all learned that the world is

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Speaker 4: bigger than our home. It's your neighborhood. So Harlem is

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Speaker 4: this neighborhood, but it can be any neighborhood in the world. Loulli, Texas,

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Speaker 4: which is where I'm from my first neighborhood. So it's

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Speaker 4: just a chance to have this loving and fun conversation

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Speaker 4: about facing fears as we do it tears.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: We used to say big boys don't cry or big

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Speaker 4: is an evolution of how to talk about fear.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, go out and get it, everybody, Harlem Honey The

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Speaker 3: Adventures of a Curious Kid Tammeron Hall. Instead of complaining,

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Speaker 3: she sat down and wrote a book to help us all.

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Speaker 4: I still complain sometimes I'm you know, my mother, I

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Speaker 4: My friends call me a social loaner because I am

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Speaker 4: But if you say to me, here is a ticket

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Speaker 1: M hm, excellent, excellent, excellent. All right.

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Speaker 3: So in uh to Shift gears a little bit the food.

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Speaker 3: In season one, episode eighteen, the third, Laurele we go

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Speaker 3: to high Tea with Emily Tricks and Laurel I do

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Speaker 4: I absolutely do you do one d There's a place,

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Speaker 4: know that that might surprise you. Country girl from Lulin, Texas.

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Speaker 4: Lady Mendel and it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: That's great. That's great.

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Speaker 3: So you've had this incredible career in journalism and television.

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Speaker 3: When did your love for cooking begin.

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Speaker 4: My love of food began the day I came out

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Speaker 4: the military for almost thirty years, love, love, love cooking.

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Speaker 4: journey with a friend Lisch Styling. She happens to be

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Speaker 4: this journey that led to my cookbook. But the cookbook

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Speaker 1: That's wonderful, what a story. It's called a confident.

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Speaker 4: and we like the same. We are meat lovers. I

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Speaker 4: mean even our book we have like this triple B Burger.

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Speaker 4: So we have like this beautiful steak, this ribbi that

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Speaker 4: we love both ice cream and that minty. It's just in.

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Speaker 4: It's breakfast, lunch, dinner, drinks. But it's a story of friendship,

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Speaker 4: It's steak. I'm a steak girl. I'm a good steak girl.

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Speaker 4: We have this beautiful ribbi and it's such a crunchy

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Speaker 4: And I told my husband was like, I don't this

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Speaker 4: But I'm a steak I am a I am truly

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Speaker 1: You know, it depends on the unit that I'm using.

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Speaker 3: check out our book, Harlem Honey, The Adventure of a

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Speaker 1: It is out now.

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Speaker 3: Continue to success on your show and all the best.

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Speaker 3: And it was wonderful, wonderful meeting you, and I hope

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