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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Mattcastle is a

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Speaker 1: production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts We got.

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Speaker 2: Lost, Just.

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Speaker 3: We got lost? Just what a bragger?

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Speaker 4: And we hope you say because.

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Speaker 2: We got lost?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got lost. Just now here's Bobby and that.

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Speaker 3: What's up everybody, And welcome back to Matt Castle, who

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Speaker 3: celebrated his nineteenth wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. Yes, it's good to be back.

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Speaker 4: But it was so amazing to get away for a

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Speaker 4: few days. So I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: No kids, right, no kids?

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Speaker 4: This, Yeah, I told you on our tenth anniversary with

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Speaker 4: no coverage, four kids and a pregnant wife was not

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Speaker 2: This was definitely romantic. It was wonderful.

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Speaker 4: To get away for a few days and be adults

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Speaker 4: and good food. We went on hikes, one of the

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Speaker 4: most strenuous hikes I've ever been on in my life.

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Speaker 4: I know how to read a map, but we got

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Speaker 4: We were up there for about two hours and thirty minutes,

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Speaker 4: and I don't think I read the map very well

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Speaker 4: sections that were very strenuous.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not kidding you. We basically scaled the mountain down.

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Speaker 2: We could have repelled it could have been like bear Girl.

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Speaker 3: We went to the same place and got lost once

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Speaker 3: and we kept coming to this There's like it may

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Speaker 3: have been different trail, but there was like a center

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Speaker 3: we kept coming to that place, but it was the

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Speaker 3: exact same place. We kept getting wrapped around. We'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: there's another map and it was the same one we

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Speaker 3: had just been at. They also gave us walkie talkies

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Speaker 3: at this place, and we didn't take the walkie talkies.

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Speaker 4: We didn't take the walkie time now they told us,

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Speaker 4: and my wife's like, is this a bad idea not

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Speaker 2: Walk I was like, babe, I've been hunting up in Montaigne. Dude,

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 4: I had the map, no idea where we were. She

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Speaker 4: kept saying, where's the trail head? Do you see paint

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Speaker 4: going the right way, but I can't convincingly tell you

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Speaker 4: that I'm going to get you home right now.

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Speaker 3: I have because of your anniversary, your nineteenth wedding anniversary,

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Speaker 3: let's look back at sports and pop culture from two

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Speaker 3: thousand and seven, the year you got married.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and seven. Here we go.

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Speaker 3: The number one movie was Spider Man three. Now, the

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Speaker 3: thing about the Spider Man movies, that's got to be

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Speaker 3: the Toby maguire version, right, because there it's got to

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Speaker 3: be multiple Spider Man's at this point. They're all like

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Speaker 3: small twirpie white guys. But I think that was probably

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Speaker 2: Man, right, and Toby worked out for that role, There's

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Number one pop song Beyonce is Irreplaceable? Can you sing it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Irreplaceable?

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Speaker 3: Isn't that? To the left? To the left, to the left,

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Speaker 3: Is that that's that song?

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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Okay.

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Speaker 3: The number one rap song Soldier Boy cranked that.

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Speaker 4: Oh crank that I used to crank that just listening

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Speaker 4: he was doing boy here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm a big old school hip hop. Don't

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Speaker 3: The iPhone debuts was priced to five hundred bucks for

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Speaker 3: gig model. The number one TV show was American Idol?

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Speaker 2: Were you on that?

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Speaker 3: And seven? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I thought you were contestant?

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Speaker 3: The NBA MVP. Can you just reach out of nowhere

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Speaker 3: and grab that two thousand and seven MVP Kobe Brant

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Speaker 3: dark Novitsky, Yep, I knew that the Mavericks did not

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Speaker 2: Kobe Brant? No, it was the Spurs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy Rollins wins MVP and baseball and in football.

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady the MVP, and the Giants won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was there.

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Speaker 2: They were really good until until we weren't. Yeah, thinks

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Speaker 2: you love that to just won a super Bowl? Right? No, No,

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Speaker 3: Initially, when I googled did Castle ever win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: So I thought you just won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, like I said, it was the only

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Speaker 3: But there is a positive to that. The reason that

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Speaker 2: It's all perspective.

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Speaker 3: No, that's a perspective.

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Speaker 2: That's the real. That is the reality. That is the real.

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Speaker 2: Would you have rather going to back up and want

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 3: If I have to tell you that, I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm proud of you too for the man you've.

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Speaker 3: Become and the man you were, the man you are.

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Speaker 3: Happy nineteen anniversary, but thank you, buddy. I got a

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Speaker 3: couple of things I did see. I was looking at

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Speaker 3: going to throw to his own guys during pro day? Right,

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Speaker 3: you didn't go to the combine?

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Speaker 2: Did not go to the combine?

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Speaker 3: Was it because you weren't invited?

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Speaker 2: That's pretty fair to say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, normally they invite people that have had

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Speaker 3: So, but your pro day was interesting because you had

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Speaker 3: a pro day but with a lot of other people, right, right.

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Speaker 4: So it's all the collective athletes at your school at

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Speaker 4: we just happened to be absolutely loaded, right. We're coming

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Speaker 2: So that's really what made or break.

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Speaker 4: Was kind of a make or break day for me

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Speaker 4: and that's what sparked interest. That's when all the scouts

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Speaker 2: Tell us your story. Who why didn't you play this?

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Speaker 4: I was like, it's pretty obvious. There's a guy Carson

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Speaker 4: He won the Heisman Trophy as well, and I kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he wants to highlight his guys, he said.

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Speaker 4: Right, because Elijah Stewart's coming out, and they've got Omar Cooper.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's a good decision.

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Speaker 3: Who was that your pro day? Because you guys were loaded,

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Speaker 2: Who was out? Kerry Kolbert, we had Lofa Tatupu. We

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Speaker 3: Whenever there are that many guys. Does everybody do it

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Speaker 4: They kind of pick and choose. Because the defensive linemen

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Speaker 3: But you would do them not at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Everybody has a chance to see everybody.

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Speaker 4: And if you're more focused on the defensive line group,

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Speaker 4: spark enough interest. But they're also not just coaches, GMS

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Speaker 4: there to look at everything holistically and give their evaluations.

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Speaker 3: How many guys there or after that told you, hey,

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Speaker 3: we may draft you.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was interesting because I had four or five

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Speaker 4: private workouts after that. Yes, it was the Bengals, it

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Speaker 4: They came to me at USC So we would go

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big dude too, two six five, two

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Speaker 4: Maybe I maybe I could dunk every now and then.

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Speaker 2: I think? What was that put me out? Does that

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Speaker 2: Really, that makes me feel better.

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Speaker 3: Would you have thought he was faster or slower than you?

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Speaker 2: He's shorter than I am. Stock here, maybe a little

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Speaker 3: But I don't know I have, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's outstanding.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it is.

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Speaker 2: That's that's you tell me if I should like Spider Man.

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Speaker 2: He talked about Spider Man earlier. That's basically me sending

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Speaker 3: A three cone drill. What's a good what's a good number?

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Speaker 4: But I knew, I knew. I felt like I was

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Speaker 3: Right, So I wanted to just start with your anniversary

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Speaker 2: What do I got? Did you watch the Olympics? At

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Speaker 3: Watch the hockey?

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Speaker 2: Did you watch the whole thing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It was epic, was it not? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I'm not a hockey guy, but I'm an America guy.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big America guy, and there was not a

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Speaker 3: I think anytime you're missing teeth and smiling, that's what

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Speaker 2: And you lost teeth during the game.

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Speaker 4: Dude took the high stick, and the other guy took

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Speaker 4: And just watch the joyous celebration of the Americans who

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Speaker 4: Well, especially hockey guys, like you're sitting there giving do

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Speaker 2: But it was just an interesting momento to walk away with.

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Speaker 3: What did your kids call stuff animals?

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Speaker 4: We've got everything from pink Bunny, like literally named pink

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Speaker 3: Is that generic term? Was it stuffy with your kids?

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Speaker 2: Stuffed animals, stuffed animal, stuffy ken, what about.

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Speaker 2: No, we called it lovey back in the day.

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Speaker 3: All things like this is all stuffed or called what, yeah.

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Speaker 3: to take Kevin's like, get your stuffed animal, or approximately

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Speaker 2: Two do get your dinosaur stuffed animal? Get you go

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Speaker 3: I did watch the John Elway documentary on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 3: a commitment to get on Netflix and find something. And

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00:17:59,176 --> 00:18:01,535
Speaker 3: I was gonna find something in sports on Netflix, and

443
00:18:01,576 --> 00:18:03,496
Speaker 3: I said I was gonna watch the forty nine Ers

444
00:18:04,176 --> 00:18:08,896
Speaker 3: docuseries or the Lway documentary, And so I decided on

445
00:18:08,936 --> 00:18:11,376
Speaker 3: the Lway documentary, and I thought it was pretty good.

446
00:18:11,495 --> 00:18:13,896
Speaker 3: I had forgotten he lost three Super Bowls before he

447
00:18:13,936 --> 00:18:17,256
Speaker 3: ever won one. Oh yeah, three, three, and that when

448
00:18:17,256 --> 00:18:19,376
Speaker 3: he went to his fourth, his mom was like, oh,

449
00:18:19,416 --> 00:18:21,575
Speaker 3: we sure we want to go back because he had

450
00:18:21,656 --> 00:18:24,336
Speaker 3: been through three losses, including back to backs.

451
00:18:24,416 --> 00:18:28,136
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was trending toward Buffalo Bills. Jim Kelly like.

452
00:18:28,176 --> 00:18:30,376
Speaker 2: He was trending that way until the very end of his.

453
00:18:30,296 --> 00:18:32,455
Speaker 3: Career and then he hit two hit two back to

454
00:18:32,495 --> 00:18:35,416
Speaker 3: back and then he retired. I thought it was pretty good.

455
00:18:36,016 --> 00:18:38,455
Speaker 3: It does not seem like he's a good guy though, really,

456
00:18:39,056 --> 00:18:41,775
Speaker 3: because the documentary definitely didn't make him look like a

457
00:18:41,776 --> 00:18:43,616
Speaker 3: bad guy, but they did not make him look like

458
00:18:43,656 --> 00:18:44,176
Speaker 3: a good guy.

459
00:18:44,455 --> 00:18:46,776
Speaker 4: Was it because of the controversy when he was coming

460
00:18:46,776 --> 00:18:48,535
Speaker 4: out and he didn't want to be drafted by.

461
00:18:48,936 --> 00:18:50,176
Speaker 2: Was it the Colt you know? Not really?

462
00:18:50,256 --> 00:18:53,056
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Baltimore, right, Not really That part was

463
00:18:53,136 --> 00:18:55,295
Speaker 3: kind of understandable because they were talking about and I

464
00:18:55,296 --> 00:18:57,096
Speaker 3: didn't know this and he may have looked this up, Kevin,

465
00:18:57,336 --> 00:19:00,176
Speaker 3: but how the owner of the Baltimore Colts had been

466
00:19:00,215 --> 00:19:02,936
Speaker 3: some controversy because I think he fired a coordinator sort

467
00:19:02,936 --> 00:19:04,775
Speaker 3: of call and plays himself from the sideline like he

468
00:19:04,936 --> 00:19:07,256
Speaker 3: was just like crazy, and so nobody wanted to play

469
00:19:07,816 --> 00:19:11,455
Speaker 3: for that organization. So Elway, number one draft pick is

470
00:19:11,495 --> 00:19:14,176
Speaker 3: picked by the Colts. Elway goes to the press conference,

471
00:19:14,176 --> 00:19:15,616
Speaker 3: and I felt like he was pretty well spoken for

472
00:19:15,656 --> 00:19:17,495
Speaker 3: a twenty year old, and he said, hey, I we

473
00:19:17,616 --> 00:19:19,936
Speaker 3: told them before not to draft me. I didn't want

474
00:19:19,936 --> 00:19:21,095
Speaker 3: to play for them. I didn't want it to come

475
00:19:21,136 --> 00:19:23,575
Speaker 3: to this, but now we have some decisions to make.

476
00:19:23,576 --> 00:19:27,136
Speaker 3: The Yankees also drafted him Yankees, so in the end,

477
00:19:27,215 --> 00:19:29,736
Speaker 3: you know, he gets traded to the Broncos. They really

478
00:19:29,776 --> 00:19:31,855
Speaker 3: didn't make him look like a jerk there. It was

479
00:19:32,056 --> 00:19:36,176
Speaker 3: just his family didn't do him any favors either, because

480
00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:39,096
Speaker 3: they'd be like, you know, if we lost, we just

481
00:19:39,096 --> 00:19:41,015
Speaker 3: wouldn't go around Dad at all. The house was so

482
00:19:41,096 --> 00:19:42,976
Speaker 3: hard to be in. And then it would be like, yeah,

483
00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:45,735
Speaker 3: Dad wasn't here much. He was more football than family.

484
00:19:45,776 --> 00:19:47,656
Speaker 3: It was just saying all this stuff really and it

485
00:19:47,735 --> 00:19:48,936
Speaker 3: just kind of all piled in and I was like,

486
00:19:49,016 --> 00:19:49,696
Speaker 3: John Elway, not.

487
00:19:49,616 --> 00:19:51,696
Speaker 2: A good dude. This is this is overwhelming for me

488
00:19:51,816 --> 00:19:52,176
Speaker 2: right now.

489
00:19:52,455 --> 00:19:56,736
Speaker 3: Yeah, athlete A plus plus, like one of the greatest.

490
00:19:56,416 --> 00:19:59,936
Speaker 2: Ever ever, Like absolute cannon for an arm.

491
00:20:00,336 --> 00:20:01,296
Speaker 3: What do you see over there, Kevin.

492
00:20:01,376 --> 00:20:04,736
Speaker 5: Yeah, Robert Ers he made a bunch of different decisions,

493
00:20:04,776 --> 00:20:10,096
Speaker 5: including benching players, calling plays, firing all the assistants one

494
00:20:10,176 --> 00:20:10,975
Speaker 5: year himself.

495
00:20:11,136 --> 00:20:12,696
Speaker 2: That's amazing, wow, and.

496
00:20:12,616 --> 00:20:15,095
Speaker 5: Even credited himself for calling a play on a touchdown

497
00:20:15,136 --> 00:20:15,616
Speaker 5: pass once.

498
00:20:15,975 --> 00:20:19,296
Speaker 4: Hey, he credited himself. Hey, that would be pretty cool, though.

499
00:20:19,336 --> 00:20:21,136
Speaker 4: If you're the owner and you're like, dude, I'm calling

500
00:20:21,176 --> 00:20:21,616
Speaker 4: this play.

501
00:20:22,056 --> 00:20:23,376
Speaker 3: I would want if I were the owner, I was

502
00:20:23,455 --> 00:20:24,816
Speaker 3: hire me to call the plays.

503
00:20:25,136 --> 00:20:27,256
Speaker 5: And that's what his granddaughter is, the one that sits

504
00:20:27,296 --> 00:20:28,896
Speaker 5: on the sideline out right, and she wants to.

505
00:20:28,896 --> 00:20:29,975
Speaker 3: Listen in with a notepad. Y.

506
00:20:30,455 --> 00:20:32,096
Speaker 2: She listens in to the place.

507
00:20:31,975 --> 00:20:33,616
Speaker 3: She keeps the headset on the whole time.

508
00:20:33,696 --> 00:20:35,295
Speaker 2: You seen that, No, I haven't.

509
00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:39,776
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, come on, and and while they're winning, it's

510
00:20:39,896 --> 00:20:42,096
Speaker 3: really cool. While they were winning last year, I was like, wow,

511
00:20:42,136 --> 00:20:43,295
Speaker 3: look how dolled in she is. And then when they

512
00:20:43,296 --> 00:20:44,136
Speaker 3: started losing.

513
00:20:44,096 --> 00:20:46,136
Speaker 4: Then your question, and it was like, why why, why

514
00:20:46,336 --> 00:20:48,495
Speaker 4: why are we doing this? Do you understand what's being taught?

515
00:20:48,696 --> 00:20:52,536
Speaker 4: Are you in the meetings? Do you see the intricacies

516
00:20:52,536 --> 00:20:54,576
Speaker 4: of the game and why he's checking this play?

517
00:20:54,656 --> 00:20:57,336
Speaker 2: No, you don't, You're just hearing random words in your

518
00:20:57,536 --> 00:20:58,056
Speaker 2: in your ear.

519
00:20:58,616 --> 00:21:00,656
Speaker 3: I thought the document was pretty good.

520
00:21:00,936 --> 00:21:03,856
Speaker 2: Pretty good. Yeah, I didn't realize I don't know that bad.

521
00:21:03,896 --> 00:21:05,815
Speaker 5: He lost those Super Bowls either. I knew he had

522
00:21:05,856 --> 00:21:07,855
Speaker 5: lost a couple of the man he got blown out.

523
00:21:07,936 --> 00:21:08,576
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think it.

524
00:21:08,616 --> 00:21:12,616
Speaker 3: May as a person didn't make him look any better really. Yeah,

525
00:21:12,616 --> 00:21:15,255
Speaker 3: as an athlete athlete, he had no idea. That's before

526
00:21:15,256 --> 00:21:17,176
Speaker 3: we were around, Like he was playing for Stanford in

527
00:21:17,376 --> 00:21:20,256
Speaker 3: like seventy nine, eighty eighty one whatever whenever that is. Yeah,

528
00:21:20,256 --> 00:21:22,775
Speaker 3: he was crazy. He Uh, there's a story because his

529
00:21:22,816 --> 00:21:25,336
Speaker 3: dad is a football coach, right and grew.

530
00:21:25,296 --> 00:21:26,816
Speaker 2: Up in Granada Hills, right down the street from where

531
00:21:26,816 --> 00:21:27,136
Speaker 2: I grew.

532
00:21:27,096 --> 00:21:30,495
Speaker 3: Up whenever his dad was i think fired from like

533
00:21:30,616 --> 00:21:33,215
Speaker 3: Washington State up there, and they were driving down and

534
00:21:33,215 --> 00:21:34,656
Speaker 3: he was like, hey, what position you're going to try for?

535
00:21:34,696 --> 00:21:36,216
Speaker 3: And John I was like running back, and he goes,

536
00:21:36,336 --> 00:21:37,496
Speaker 3: now you're going to be quarterback.

537
00:21:38,016 --> 00:21:38,616
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

538
00:21:38,656 --> 00:21:40,816
Speaker 3: And then he got lucky that his high school quarterback

539
00:21:41,376 --> 00:21:43,856
Speaker 3: was like so far ahead and maybe Stanford at throwing

540
00:21:43,856 --> 00:21:47,216
Speaker 3: the football because they actually threw the ball, which back

541
00:21:47,256 --> 00:21:49,455
Speaker 3: then it was just run, run, run.

542
00:21:49,735 --> 00:21:53,576
Speaker 2: Play action. A little little you know what show I've

543
00:21:53,576 --> 00:21:57,136
Speaker 2: been watching on Netflix. Have you ever seen the show alone?

544
00:21:57,336 --> 00:22:00,496
Speaker 4: They literally take these people one hundred and some miles

545
00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:01,616
Speaker 4: past the Arctic Circle.

546
00:22:01,616 --> 00:22:03,056
Speaker 3: It's like a survival type show.

547
00:22:02,936 --> 00:22:05,096
Speaker 2: Right, do you think you could actually survive out there?

548
00:22:05,455 --> 00:22:08,775
Speaker 4: I mean, there's grizzlies, there's moose and and I'm not

549
00:22:08,776 --> 00:22:11,535
Speaker 4: saying that, but these people are gnarly. The shelters that

550
00:22:11,576 --> 00:22:14,376
Speaker 4: they make, the skill set that they have, and it's

551
00:22:14,495 --> 00:22:17,455
Speaker 4: fascinating to me and makes me feel like such a

552
00:22:17,536 --> 00:22:19,856
Speaker 4: less human that I don't know how to do anything

553
00:22:19,896 --> 00:22:20,696
Speaker 4: that they know how to do.

554
00:22:20,856 --> 00:22:24,096
Speaker 3: These people are crazy and they they're crazy and they

555
00:22:24,136 --> 00:22:26,416
Speaker 3: have such a skill set. It is an odd combination

556
00:22:26,616 --> 00:22:29,416
Speaker 3: unbelievable that they can go. I worked with the producers

557
00:22:29,455 --> 00:22:34,896
Speaker 3: of that show, really because when I on my show,

558
00:22:34,896 --> 00:22:36,975
Speaker 3: because I moved to South America for a month and

559
00:22:37,016 --> 00:22:38,535
Speaker 3: a half to go and do a show in the

560
00:22:38,656 --> 00:22:41,735
Speaker 3: jungle on Peacock, and some of those producers worked on

561
00:22:41,776 --> 00:22:44,536
Speaker 3: Alone and Naked and Afraid. It's all those like they

562
00:22:44,616 --> 00:22:47,136
Speaker 3: like share it because they were that's a similar type show,

563
00:22:47,336 --> 00:22:49,256
Speaker 3: and they would talk about ho those people were just insane,

564
00:22:49,256 --> 00:22:50,535
Speaker 3: Like you had to be insane to even want to

565
00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:52,136
Speaker 3: do it, to agree to do it right, and then

566
00:22:52,176 --> 00:22:55,376
Speaker 3: you had to be like insanely good and wildly smart

567
00:22:55,816 --> 00:22:58,055
Speaker 3: to also exist on a show like that.

568
00:22:58,215 --> 00:22:59,176
Speaker 2: To actually survive it.

569
00:22:59,215 --> 00:23:03,735
Speaker 4: And the one thing about Alone is they truly are

570
00:23:03,776 --> 00:23:05,336
Speaker 4: in the middle of a wilderness. At least in Naked

571
00:23:05,735 --> 00:23:07,936
Speaker 4: and Afraid, you've got somebody there that you can kind

572
00:23:07,936 --> 00:23:10,856
Speaker 4: of compete with and do that alone. You are by

573
00:23:10,936 --> 00:23:13,496
Speaker 4: yourself and the demons. You can see it just after

574
00:23:13,536 --> 00:23:16,416
Speaker 4: a while, when they're malnutritions and all that stuff, they

575
00:23:16,455 --> 00:23:19,095
Speaker 4: start to get emotional. And these people aren't emotional. They

576
00:23:19,136 --> 00:23:22,575
Speaker 4: are backcountry woodsmen. These women are just as strong as

577
00:23:22,616 --> 00:23:22,896
Speaker 4: the men.

578
00:23:22,975 --> 00:23:25,856
Speaker 3: It is wild not the same. So no, I don't

579
00:23:25,896 --> 00:23:28,616
Speaker 3: think I would survive in the situations they're put in. Yeah,

580
00:23:28,616 --> 00:23:30,096
Speaker 3: so no, my answer is no, I would die. I

581
00:23:30,215 --> 00:23:31,495
Speaker 3: die sad and I die crying.

582
00:23:31,896 --> 00:23:33,936
Speaker 4: I definitely would make sure that I had that radio

583
00:23:33,936 --> 00:23:35,776
Speaker 4: that they said, look, if you want to tap out,

584
00:23:36,376 --> 00:23:36,815
Speaker 4: push it.

585
00:23:37,096 --> 00:23:39,575
Speaker 3: When I did Bear Girls the first time, we went

586
00:23:39,616 --> 00:23:42,536
Speaker 3: to Norway, and so was it cold. It's freezing cold

587
00:23:42,536 --> 00:23:44,295
Speaker 3: and rain and it was raining the whole time. It

588
00:23:44,336 --> 00:23:46,775
Speaker 3: wasn't snowing, it was freezing cold and raining. So we

589
00:23:46,776 --> 00:23:50,136
Speaker 3: were constantly wet. And it's a two day deal. And

590
00:23:50,176 --> 00:23:53,096
Speaker 3: my flight was delayed like fourteen hours at different places.

591
00:23:53,215 --> 00:23:55,336
Speaker 3: So as soon as I landed, I didn't get to sleep.

592
00:23:55,376 --> 00:23:58,096
Speaker 3: We went right into action. So I'm exhausted. When I

593
00:23:58,176 --> 00:24:03,136
Speaker 3: land we start, I am like crevicing however they were,

594
00:24:03,215 --> 00:24:05,336
Speaker 3: and Bear joins me in the middle. That's how it is.

595
00:24:05,576 --> 00:24:08,176
Speaker 3: Like comes in on a helicopter and so we're climbing

596
00:24:08,176 --> 00:24:10,856
Speaker 3: these mountains, going down on ropes, all these things, and

597
00:24:11,455 --> 00:24:13,696
Speaker 3: there's this water that we have to go across, and

598
00:24:13,776 --> 00:24:16,096
Speaker 3: I'm thinking we're gonna make a boat or something, and no, no, no,

599
00:24:16,096 --> 00:24:19,735
Speaker 3: we're gonna wade through it. But again it's you're freezing freezing,

600
00:24:20,016 --> 00:24:22,376
Speaker 3: and so we're wading through it and he's like, hey,

601
00:24:22,376 --> 00:24:25,016
Speaker 3: we have to find food. So it could be any

602
00:24:25,096 --> 00:24:29,896
Speaker 3: kinds of animals. Yes, we're looking for it, or yes, anything,

603
00:24:29,936 --> 00:24:33,096
Speaker 3: and so he's like, if you see anything, it counts.

604
00:24:33,735 --> 00:24:35,616
Speaker 3: We just want to have it on camera. And so

605
00:24:36,056 --> 00:24:40,336
Speaker 3: we're going through and I see something, some animal's carcass

606
00:24:40,376 --> 00:24:43,856
Speaker 3: floating and I'm like, there's something and so we go

607
00:24:43,896 --> 00:24:47,696
Speaker 3: over to it and flip it over and it's on

608
00:24:47,735 --> 00:24:49,336
Speaker 3: the top because it had been exposed to air. It

609
00:24:49,416 --> 00:24:51,495
Speaker 3: was a dead sheep and the whole top part of

610
00:24:51,536 --> 00:24:54,055
Speaker 3: it had been rotted. And you see this on the episode,

611
00:24:54,296 --> 00:24:56,696
Speaker 3: but because the bottom part was under the water, it

612
00:24:56,735 --> 00:24:58,696
Speaker 3: was preserved.

613
00:24:58,056 --> 00:25:00,456
Speaker 2: So you cut out the meat for so we pulled it.

614
00:25:00,376 --> 00:25:02,696
Speaker 3: To the side. And this is where my skills comes through.

615
00:25:02,696 --> 00:25:04,455
Speaker 3: I grew up in Arkansas. I can clean an animals.

616
00:25:04,735 --> 00:25:07,376
Speaker 3: Still it's been a while so but still I would

617
00:25:07,376 --> 00:25:10,055
Speaker 3: still give me probably a B minus after having not

618
00:25:10,096 --> 00:25:12,496
Speaker 3: done it. And to bear, all he knows is I'm

619
00:25:12,536 --> 00:25:14,896
Speaker 3: like the nerdy guy who is funny.

620
00:25:15,016 --> 00:25:17,295
Speaker 2: Yeah, never never been out in the wilderness.

621
00:25:17,376 --> 00:25:19,055
Speaker 3: Just and he's like, what we're gonna do here with

622
00:25:19,096 --> 00:25:21,056
Speaker 3: this boy? We're going to do here with this sheep

623
00:25:21,136 --> 00:25:22,535
Speaker 3: is we're going to clean I was like, oh, I'm

624
00:25:22,536 --> 00:25:26,775
Speaker 3: pretty familiar and I know where to go. And he's like, oh, Krocky,

625
00:25:26,896 --> 00:25:32,296
Speaker 3: He's like Australia. I was so shocked at the fact

626
00:25:32,336 --> 00:25:35,576
Speaker 3: that I knew how to clean this animal. I wouldn't

627
00:25:35,616 --> 00:25:38,255
Speaker 3: have because so much was rotted. I wouldn't have thought

628
00:25:38,816 --> 00:25:41,775
Speaker 3: the bottom half is preserved. The top half is rotted,

629
00:25:42,016 --> 00:25:43,896
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't have thought that. But once he said, hey,

630
00:25:43,896 --> 00:25:47,616
Speaker 3: that's fine, then I totally cleaned the bottom half, like

631
00:25:47,696 --> 00:25:49,656
Speaker 3: seventy percent of it. I didn't want to get too

632
00:25:49,656 --> 00:25:51,255
Speaker 3: close to the rotted meat, but that's all we had

633
00:25:51,296 --> 00:25:55,136
Speaker 3: to eat, and that's literally cook it forty hours. We

634
00:25:55,176 --> 00:25:58,256
Speaker 3: cooked it and it wasn't great because there was no seasoning.

635
00:25:57,975 --> 00:26:00,656
Speaker 2: Or anything, but it was so hungry, so hungry.

636
00:26:00,896 --> 00:26:02,815
Speaker 3: When I tell you that that show is exactly what

637
00:26:02,856 --> 00:26:05,055
Speaker 3: it is for forty eight hours, it's exactly what it

638
00:26:05,096 --> 00:26:06,096
Speaker 3: is forty eight hours.

639
00:26:06,176 --> 00:26:06,896
Speaker 2: I like that though.

640
00:26:07,016 --> 00:26:08,936
Speaker 3: So that was the food that we ate, and then

641
00:26:08,975 --> 00:26:11,416
Speaker 3: we made we cooked extra and just kept in our pocket.

642
00:26:12,256 --> 00:26:13,416
Speaker 2: I love it beef turkey.

643
00:26:13,616 --> 00:26:15,975
Speaker 3: There is a scene on the very end. If you

644
00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:19,255
Speaker 3: go to Disney Plus all this is up. So the

645
00:26:19,296 --> 00:26:20,735
Speaker 3: first one that I did in Norway, because I did

646
00:26:20,776 --> 00:26:23,696
Speaker 3: two episodes. At the very end, we're standing on this

647
00:26:23,735 --> 00:26:25,615
Speaker 3: thing and they bring a helicopter in to get you.

648
00:26:26,735 --> 00:26:28,296
Speaker 3: We have to stand on the side of the helicopter

649
00:26:28,336 --> 00:26:30,496
Speaker 3: as it goes and like flips around a mountain. We're

650
00:26:30,536 --> 00:26:32,536
Speaker 3: standing up, We're standing holding onto the side.

651
00:26:32,896 --> 00:26:35,735
Speaker 2: The shot it was crazy, are you buckled in? At

652
00:26:35,816 --> 00:26:37,455
Speaker 2: least we're clipped clipped in?

653
00:26:37,696 --> 00:26:41,136
Speaker 3: But I could still have let go or fallen off

654
00:26:41,136 --> 00:26:42,975
Speaker 3: and I would just been dangling by a clip.

655
00:26:43,056 --> 00:26:43,976
Speaker 2: That would have been kind of cool.

656
00:26:44,176 --> 00:26:46,735
Speaker 4: No, yeah, if you would have sold that for the television,

657
00:26:46,936 --> 00:26:49,576
Speaker 4: like did you falling at the end, just like hanging

658
00:26:49,576 --> 00:26:52,616
Speaker 4: off and eating beef jerkey out.

659
00:26:51,776 --> 00:26:53,096
Speaker 2: Of your pocket and cool.

660
00:26:53,215 --> 00:26:56,376
Speaker 3: I hate And I was like, I'm never doing this again.

661
00:26:56,416 --> 00:26:58,975
Speaker 3: They called me like, we do another episode, absolutely, and

662
00:26:59,016 --> 00:27:00,056
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think so. I don't have

663
00:27:00,096 --> 00:27:02,015
Speaker 3: anything else to do, anything else to say, And they

664
00:27:02,016 --> 00:27:04,056
Speaker 3: were like, well, we'd love for you because I was

665
00:27:04,056 --> 00:27:06,176
Speaker 3: about to launch a show on that go and it'd

666
00:27:06,176 --> 00:27:07,936
Speaker 3: be great for you to launch your show. And my

667
00:27:07,975 --> 00:27:10,295
Speaker 3: wife was in a good place and she was my

668
00:27:10,336 --> 00:27:12,336
Speaker 3: fiance then, and they said I said they want you

669
00:27:12,376 --> 00:27:15,416
Speaker 3: to do it with me. And she's extremely athletic, but

670
00:27:15,495 --> 00:27:17,255
Speaker 3: she doesn't want to be on TV. And luckily she

671
00:27:17,336 --> 00:27:18,975
Speaker 3: had been to her therapists, and her therapist is like,

672
00:27:18,975 --> 00:27:21,616
Speaker 3: if you're going to like suffer, like the negative things

673
00:27:21,616 --> 00:27:23,495
Speaker 3: from his career and the people, you should also get

674
00:27:23,696 --> 00:27:25,815
Speaker 3: take advantage of some of the fun stuff. I just

675
00:27:25,856 --> 00:27:26,656
Speaker 3: happened to catch her on.

676
00:27:26,576 --> 00:27:28,456
Speaker 2: A good day. Oh, she did it. She did it.

677
00:27:28,536 --> 00:27:31,896
Speaker 3: Our second episode is Me and My wife, like the

678
00:27:31,936 --> 00:27:33,295
Speaker 3: Sierra Nevada Mountains.

679
00:27:33,656 --> 00:27:36,336
Speaker 2: Was that easier obviously than the other one. I'm thinking

680
00:27:36,495 --> 00:27:38,416
Speaker 2: just because weather conditions and stuff.

681
00:27:38,536 --> 00:27:41,296
Speaker 3: We did a lot more high things on that one. Yeah,

682
00:27:41,656 --> 00:27:45,336
Speaker 3: that and Norway was water and cold and animals and

683
00:27:45,816 --> 00:27:48,215
Speaker 3: this was just coming off the size of high cliffs.

684
00:27:48,376 --> 00:27:51,416
Speaker 3: As soon as we land, this bear comes in on

685
00:27:51,776 --> 00:27:56,776
Speaker 3: a paraglider and then a helicopter comes in and bear

686
00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:58,295
Speaker 3: just clips us. You know how you get on the

687
00:27:58,376 --> 00:28:01,616
Speaker 3: rope right the hell the ladder? Ye, he says, hold

688
00:28:01,616 --> 00:28:03,015
Speaker 3: onto the ladder. He clipped us one clip to the

689
00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:05,615
Speaker 3: ladder and we're flying over the mountains, just hanging off

690
00:28:05,616 --> 00:28:08,255
Speaker 3: the ladder. Dude, they do some you don't know, and

691
00:28:08,296 --> 00:28:09,896
Speaker 3: they don't tell you what you're gonna do, because you're.

692
00:28:09,776 --> 00:28:11,735
Speaker 4: Not just sign away your life. I'm guessing like if

693
00:28:11,776 --> 00:28:14,335
Speaker 4: you die, did anybody? Has anybody really been heard on

694
00:28:14,376 --> 00:28:14,816
Speaker 4: those things?

695
00:28:15,376 --> 00:28:15,536
Speaker 2: No?

696
00:28:15,616 --> 00:28:17,856
Speaker 3: I think they're safe because and I want to say

697
00:28:17,856 --> 00:28:21,215
Speaker 3: this and and understand how ridiculous is when I say it. Okay,

698
00:28:21,816 --> 00:28:25,176
Speaker 3: it's a celebrity show, right, so for the most part

699
00:28:25,616 --> 00:28:28,376
Speaker 3: finger quote, celebrities aren't going to agree to do something

700
00:28:28,576 --> 00:28:29,736
Speaker 3: where it looks like they might die.

701
00:28:29,816 --> 00:28:30,735
Speaker 2: Well, they're going to die.

702
00:28:30,975 --> 00:28:33,896
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was the very bottom of the barrel celebrity.

703
00:28:33,896 --> 00:28:35,776
Speaker 3: I get it, but I was still considered that the celebrity.

704
00:28:35,856 --> 00:28:40,456
Speaker 2: So stop stop throwing. Next episode you're going to fight

705
00:28:40,536 --> 00:28:41,376
Speaker 2: Kamoto dragons.

706
00:28:41,536 --> 00:28:43,296
Speaker 3: Next episode is celebrity Will of Fortune.

707
00:28:43,576 --> 00:28:45,176
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

708
00:28:45,376 --> 00:28:48,336
Speaker 4: You still have nightmares about when you're in third grade

709
00:28:48,336 --> 00:28:50,095
Speaker 4: and you have to go up and spell something and

710
00:28:50,136 --> 00:28:51,456
Speaker 4: go spelling.

711
00:28:51,656 --> 00:28:52,696
Speaker 3: Huh I was good at spelling.

712
00:28:52,816 --> 00:28:55,536
Speaker 2: Oh well then you'll be fine out will Fortune bad? Bad,

713
00:28:55,696 --> 00:28:58,016
Speaker 2: always bad. Are you good at crosswords?

714
00:28:58,656 --> 00:28:59,656
Speaker 3: I don't think i've done enough.

715
00:28:59,776 --> 00:29:02,016
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean crosswords throw me for a loop. When

716
00:29:02,016 --> 00:29:04,136
Speaker 4: they ask those questions and you're supposed to know how

717
00:29:04,136 --> 00:29:05,776
Speaker 4: to answer, I'm like, I have no idea where they're

718
00:29:05,776 --> 00:29:06,256
Speaker 4: going with this.

719
00:29:06,416 --> 00:29:09,696
Speaker 3: Good jeopardy player. I was quiz Bowl captain from seventh grade.

720
00:29:09,776 --> 00:29:11,616
Speaker 2: I could see you being a good jeopardy player.

721
00:29:12,296 --> 00:29:15,136
Speaker 3: Okay, what what are you saying, Nerd, Yeah, exactly.

722
00:29:16,496 --> 00:29:18,056
Speaker 2: Like you looked at me like that.

723
00:29:18,136 --> 00:29:20,336
Speaker 3: So I'm glad you said it. In seventh grade, I

724
00:29:20,336 --> 00:29:21,696
Speaker 3: was captain of our twelfth grade team.

725
00:29:21,736 --> 00:29:23,576
Speaker 2: And so I was captain in seventh grade.

726
00:29:23,616 --> 00:29:26,696
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was done. I was the prodigy for

727
00:29:26,736 --> 00:29:29,696
Speaker 3: like three years because I'd be by far the youngest

728
00:29:29,976 --> 00:29:34,216
Speaker 3: and dominating seniors, dominating seventh and then as I got older,

729
00:29:34,296 --> 00:29:36,056
Speaker 3: I just started to be somebody who was good because

730
00:29:36,056 --> 00:29:39,336
Speaker 3: I wasn't always so much younger than everybody else. But yeah,

731
00:29:39,376 --> 00:29:41,856
Speaker 3: that was kind of where I got my credit in

732
00:29:41,896 --> 00:29:43,616
Speaker 3: school because I was kind of beat up a little bit.

733
00:29:43,736 --> 00:29:45,816
Speaker 3: I got to be an okay athlete, like around eleventh

734
00:29:45,816 --> 00:29:48,496
Speaker 3: grade my junior year. Not a good athlete, but okay

735
00:29:48,576 --> 00:29:50,856
Speaker 3: athlete that I was good for my team, but my

736
00:29:51,016 --> 00:29:52,776
Speaker 3: really thrived quizb.

737
00:29:53,216 --> 00:29:56,416
Speaker 2: Was it a gifted school for the like a magnet school.

738
00:29:56,536 --> 00:29:59,776
Speaker 3: No, I went to a terrible school to the worst.

739
00:30:00,656 --> 00:30:02,656
Speaker 3: I went to bad You didn't depression everybody from Arkans

740
00:30:02,696 --> 00:30:03,136
Speaker 3: on that, and you know.

741
00:30:03,136 --> 00:30:07,176
Speaker 2: What better than Australia English. They do sound very familiar.

742
00:30:07,216 --> 00:30:09,056
Speaker 3: At least those accents are kind of the same.

743
00:30:09,336 --> 00:30:11,696
Speaker 4: Is there nothing better though than an accent? I mean,

744
00:30:11,776 --> 00:30:14,416
Speaker 4: if I could speak in an English accent, I would

745
00:30:14,456 --> 00:30:15,976
Speaker 4: be thirty times sexier.

746
00:30:16,216 --> 00:30:19,456
Speaker 3: Three best accents go number one.

747
00:30:19,656 --> 00:30:21,656
Speaker 2: Australian is definitely up there.

748
00:30:21,936 --> 00:30:23,336
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go British at one.

749
00:30:23,416 --> 00:30:23,976
Speaker 2: British.

750
00:30:24,016 --> 00:30:25,815
Speaker 3: We'll do a draft, so you can't take British now

751
00:30:25,856 --> 00:30:26,256
Speaker 3: I got.

752
00:30:26,096 --> 00:30:27,575
Speaker 2: Like, okay, then I'll go Australian.

753
00:30:27,616 --> 00:30:30,056
Speaker 3: Okay, let's start over number one first.

754
00:30:29,856 --> 00:30:33,656
Speaker 4: Overall, pick you take Australian, Okay, I'll take British, and

755
00:30:33,696 --> 00:30:34,896
Speaker 4: then I can't pick another one.

756
00:30:35,336 --> 00:30:36,816
Speaker 3: You can't pick one of the two that we picked.

757
00:30:36,856 --> 00:30:39,376
Speaker 2: Okay. French it's just kind of I.

758
00:30:39,296 --> 00:30:44,536
Speaker 3: Feel like it's stinky, yeah, stinky cheese. Like I'm going

759
00:30:44,616 --> 00:30:47,176
Speaker 3: to go with. This is not going to be a

760
00:30:47,176 --> 00:30:47,896
Speaker 3: popular pick.

761
00:30:48,536 --> 00:30:54,816
Speaker 2: Let's hear it. German, German, German German speaking English.

762
00:30:55,456 --> 00:30:56,856
Speaker 3: I just the accent.

763
00:30:58,016 --> 00:30:58,656
Speaker 2: All I want to do.

764
00:30:58,656 --> 00:31:00,376
Speaker 3: And this is even right, it's Russian. If you die,

765
00:31:00,496 --> 00:31:03,136
Speaker 3: you die that all my get mixed up. But I'm

766
00:31:03,136 --> 00:31:06,456
Speaker 3: gonna go I like the German accent. Second of all.

767
00:31:06,296 --> 00:31:08,616
Speaker 2: Your talents, you're way off.

768
00:31:09,176 --> 00:31:10,616
Speaker 3: And then what's your third accent?

769
00:31:11,736 --> 00:31:16,856
Speaker 4: I think a good country just like deep They were

770
00:31:16,896 --> 00:31:17,656
Speaker 4: just doing me as that.

771
00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:19,736
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's what I'm saying. I like it.

772
00:31:20,376 --> 00:31:22,296
Speaker 4: I think it adds a little something to you know,

773
00:31:22,976 --> 00:31:26,616
Speaker 4: just not just a normal but Russian. I don't think

774
00:31:26,616 --> 00:31:30,176
Speaker 4: I would go with Russian or Middle Eastern, you know.

775
00:31:30,296 --> 00:31:32,576
Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't know if I do that either.

776
00:31:33,016 --> 00:31:36,376
Speaker 3: I like a good island, like Jamaican accent.

777
00:31:36,376 --> 00:31:39,496
Speaker 2: Oh good call on that, all right, I'll go. I

778
00:31:39,576 --> 00:31:40,136
Speaker 2: like that for you.

779
00:31:40,256 --> 00:31:41,056
Speaker 3: That seems friendly.

780
00:31:41,256 --> 00:31:42,376
Speaker 2: That does seem very friendly.

781
00:31:42,456 --> 00:31:43,336
Speaker 3: Jamaican seems friendly.

782
00:31:43,496 --> 00:31:50,056
Speaker 2: Me try one. I just I don't even do.

783
00:31:49,936 --> 00:31:51,856
Speaker 3: Anything other than say mon after everything.

784
00:31:51,976 --> 00:31:52,776
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.

785
00:32:09,216 --> 00:32:12,335
Speaker 3: I was rehabilitation for my ankle. I'm still going through

786
00:32:12,376 --> 00:32:13,976
Speaker 3: that process where I had surgery on my ankle.

787
00:32:14,056 --> 00:32:15,136
Speaker 2: You're pretty deep into that.

788
00:32:15,376 --> 00:32:18,216
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm getting close to being done. Yeah,

789
00:32:18,256 --> 00:32:21,536
Speaker 3: I'm not running on it still. But have you done

790
00:32:21,616 --> 00:32:23,056
Speaker 3: the anti gravity treadmill ever?

791
00:32:23,296 --> 00:32:24,816
Speaker 2: It's awesome. You get into this.

792
00:32:24,816 --> 00:32:26,736
Speaker 3: Thing, you step into two holes and you pull it

793
00:32:26,776 --> 00:32:28,496
Speaker 3: up around you kind of like skirt, and then you

794
00:32:28,616 --> 00:32:32,376
Speaker 3: zip yourself in and then it blows air. To fill

795
00:32:32,416 --> 00:32:34,575
Speaker 3: it up, and so it almost lifts you up off

796
00:32:34,656 --> 00:32:36,936
Speaker 3: the ground. And then you do your percentage, and so

797
00:32:36,976 --> 00:32:39,496
Speaker 3: I ran on seventy percent yesterday for fifteen minutes.

798
00:32:39,736 --> 00:32:41,656
Speaker 2: Oh dude, bag Oh you're getting after it.

799
00:32:41,736 --> 00:32:42,696
Speaker 3: Yeah, big, big growth.

800
00:32:43,056 --> 00:32:43,736
Speaker 2: Who are you blowing?

801
00:32:45,056 --> 00:32:47,176
Speaker 3: My cardio is bad because I haven't been able to

802
00:32:47,176 --> 00:32:47,856
Speaker 3: do anything like.

803
00:32:47,776 --> 00:32:49,336
Speaker 2: Can I just can I walk it out in an

804
00:32:49,416 --> 00:32:51,936
Speaker 2: incline for fifteen minutes? Then once you run.

805
00:32:52,016 --> 00:32:53,776
Speaker 3: I was trying to watch my phone while doing it

806
00:32:53,816 --> 00:32:57,256
Speaker 3: and knocked it down into the treadmill too. It's in

807
00:32:57,336 --> 00:32:59,456
Speaker 3: the middle of it. Yeah, but I'm getting there.

808
00:32:59,656 --> 00:33:01,136
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm almost.

809
00:33:01,096 --> 00:33:04,376
Speaker 4: See pickleball's coming. It's right around the corner. Springs come in.

810
00:33:04,776 --> 00:33:07,336
Speaker 4: You're gonna be on the pickle ball court again. Just dominating.

811
00:33:07,376 --> 00:33:08,816
Speaker 3: Talking a little PTSD about that.

812
00:33:09,416 --> 00:33:11,136
Speaker 2: Smack the people that try to write you.

813
00:33:11,296 --> 00:33:13,696
Speaker 3: I know, I got a little PTSD about playing pickleball.

814
00:33:14,136 --> 00:33:16,176
Speaker 3: My wife thinks I'll get back at it, but I'm like, man,

815
00:33:16,616 --> 00:33:18,176
Speaker 3: it sent me back five months.

816
00:33:18,496 --> 00:33:20,815
Speaker 2: Oh you did it while playing pickleball the tournament. I

817
00:33:20,856 --> 00:33:22,576
Speaker 2: didn't know that I was playing a tournament. Did you

818
00:33:22,576 --> 00:33:23,976
Speaker 2: finish the tournament? Yeah?

819
00:33:24,056 --> 00:33:26,536
Speaker 3: Finished third, gangster. I did it like the second game, played,

820
00:33:26,536 --> 00:33:30,656
Speaker 3: the whole tournament, finished third, lost, lost the semi finals,

821
00:33:30,656 --> 00:33:34,176
Speaker 3: and then won that the.

822
00:33:32,936 --> 00:33:34,456
Speaker 2: The grudge match for third.

823
00:33:34,536 --> 00:33:35,736
Speaker 3: Yeah whatever, what is that called?

824
00:33:35,816 --> 00:33:35,976
Speaker 2: Like that?

825
00:33:36,296 --> 00:33:41,376
Speaker 3: Because Olympics too that they're playing for third place. There's

826
00:33:41,416 --> 00:33:44,136
Speaker 3: a name for that game. But yeah, I won that game.

827
00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:46,496
Speaker 2: You're so you played for bronze, but you won won

828
00:33:46,536 --> 00:33:47,016
Speaker 2: the bronze.

829
00:33:47,096 --> 00:33:47,856
Speaker 3: I won the bronze.

830
00:33:47,856 --> 00:33:49,816
Speaker 2: Did you have it like wrapped up?

831
00:33:50,616 --> 00:33:52,776
Speaker 3: I didn't want to acknowledge it killed me if I

832
00:33:52,776 --> 00:33:54,815
Speaker 3: didn't want to acknowledge it or show anyone else that

833
00:33:54,816 --> 00:33:56,776
Speaker 3: I was hurting, So I did not wrap it up.

834
00:33:58,376 --> 00:34:01,736
Speaker 3: That's it. The Consolation game. Yeah, so I lost in

835
00:34:01,776 --> 00:34:04,296
Speaker 3: the semis to the eventual champion and then won the

836
00:34:04,296 --> 00:34:09,776
Speaker 3: Consolation game. It's prodest. It's prodest. Third place metal ever, Yeah.

837
00:34:09,536 --> 00:34:13,176
Speaker 2: It's awesome, especially on a hurd ankle, on a herd ankle. Yeah.

838
00:34:13,256 --> 00:34:13,816
Speaker 2: How about my.

839
00:34:13,736 --> 00:34:17,936
Speaker 4: Buddies was skiing last week. He's literally standing at the

840
00:34:17,936 --> 00:34:20,176
Speaker 4: bottom of the hill on his skis waiting for his

841
00:34:20,256 --> 00:34:23,536
Speaker 4: family and a fourteen year old snowboarder runs into the

842
00:34:23,536 --> 00:34:23,936
Speaker 4: back of.

843
00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:28,256
Speaker 2: Him, tears his knee apart. Ncl pcl ACL.

844
00:34:28,656 --> 00:34:31,936
Speaker 4: I was like, what day of the trip literally their

845
00:34:31,976 --> 00:34:33,096
Speaker 4: first full day skiing.

846
00:34:33,976 --> 00:34:36,896
Speaker 3: Was he in like the skiing avenue, I don't know

847
00:34:36,936 --> 00:34:37,376
Speaker 3: what you call.

848
00:34:37,336 --> 00:34:40,056
Speaker 4: Ski I have no idea where he was, but I

849
00:34:40,056 --> 00:34:42,176
Speaker 4: guess he was off to the side, close close to

850
00:34:42,216 --> 00:34:44,656
Speaker 4: the lifts down at the bottom, and he was probably

851
00:34:44,656 --> 00:34:46,456
Speaker 4: turned around, probably checking his phone or something like that,

852
00:34:46,456 --> 00:34:49,056
Speaker 4: waiting for his family. And a fourteen year old snowboarder

853
00:34:49,416 --> 00:34:52,856
Speaker 4: came in behind, rolls him up, and then the best.

854
00:34:52,656 --> 00:34:54,976
Speaker 2: Part about it, he says, she got up and took

855
00:34:55,016 --> 00:35:00,616
Speaker 2: off all didn't wait, didn't say anything, it just left.

856
00:35:00,656 --> 00:35:02,976
Speaker 2: I was like, that's pretty good right there. It's a

857
00:35:03,016 --> 00:35:04,376
Speaker 2: long recovery, all right?

858
00:35:04,376 --> 00:35:06,176
Speaker 3: What else you got over there? What else do I

859
00:35:06,176 --> 00:35:06,656
Speaker 3: guess somewhere?

860
00:35:06,696 --> 00:35:07,816
Speaker 2: Good? Oh gosh.

861
00:35:07,936 --> 00:35:09,936
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm looking at some of these free agents

862
00:35:09,936 --> 00:35:12,296
Speaker 4: coming up, because March eleventh we got free agents, and

863
00:35:12,536 --> 00:35:14,936
Speaker 4: I would have to say, when you look at it,

864
00:35:15,016 --> 00:35:16,576
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know whether or not. We talked

865
00:35:16,576 --> 00:35:19,296
Speaker 4: a little bit last time about George Pickens being franchised.

866
00:35:19,816 --> 00:35:21,896
Speaker 4: He's if he goes to the free agency market, I

867
00:35:21,896 --> 00:35:23,776
Speaker 4: think he's going to be highly valued. But Kenneth Walker,

868
00:35:23,816 --> 00:35:26,616
Speaker 4: the third, do you even think that Seattle could potentially

869
00:35:26,736 --> 00:35:27,216
Speaker 4: let him walk?

870
00:35:27,256 --> 00:35:27,856
Speaker 2: Out of the building.

871
00:35:27,936 --> 00:35:31,376
Speaker 4: Yes, they have Sharbonnay, they have sharbon A, but Charbona's

872
00:35:31,376 --> 00:35:32,616
Speaker 4: coming off an ACL injury.

873
00:35:33,056 --> 00:35:35,656
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I he doesn't catch. He's not good in

874
00:35:35,656 --> 00:35:37,656
Speaker 3: the back not Charbonnay, but Kenneth Walker. He's great, by

875
00:35:37,656 --> 00:35:39,896
Speaker 3: the way, dynamic. We saw him really play well whenever

876
00:35:39,936 --> 00:35:42,616
Speaker 3: it was just his ball, because him and Sharbonay split

877
00:35:42,696 --> 00:35:45,696
Speaker 3: snaps a lot this year, I thought, and I think

878
00:35:45,736 --> 00:35:48,176
Speaker 3: that because he doesn't really pose a threat out of

879
00:35:48,176 --> 00:35:51,616
Speaker 3: the backfield receiving that they could possibly let him go

880
00:35:51,936 --> 00:35:55,096
Speaker 3: because just running backs Diamond dozen.

881
00:35:55,296 --> 00:35:57,016
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's a Diamond dozen. He just

882
00:35:57,096 --> 00:35:59,856
Speaker 4: was Super Bowl and VP and also the fabric of

883
00:35:59,896 --> 00:36:02,096
Speaker 4: who they are offensively. They want to run the rock

884
00:36:02,336 --> 00:36:05,096
Speaker 4: and he sets the tone for them. He lose their

885
00:36:05,136 --> 00:36:09,216
Speaker 4: leading rusher, touchdowns, yards, everything else. I don't think they

886
00:36:09,256 --> 00:36:09,896
Speaker 4: let him walk.

887
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:12,336
Speaker 3: I don't think they do now because he was Super

888
00:36:12,376 --> 00:36:14,376
Speaker 3: Bowl MVP. But it was a weird Super Bowl, and

889
00:36:14,416 --> 00:36:16,496
Speaker 3: it was a weird Super Bowl MVP where there really

890
00:36:16,616 --> 00:36:19,616
Speaker 3: wasn't a player that was dominant. It was who can

891
00:36:19,656 --> 00:36:22,376
Speaker 3: we find that actually was the most pretty good?

892
00:36:22,616 --> 00:36:24,656
Speaker 2: He was really good. He rush for over one hundred

893
00:36:24,656 --> 00:36:28,016
Speaker 2: and touchdown did he scored a touchdown? He scored?

894
00:36:28,136 --> 00:36:29,456
Speaker 3: I don't think he scored a touchdown?

895
00:36:29,456 --> 00:36:33,016
Speaker 2: Did he? You better? You better find it, Kevin, hurry up.

896
00:36:33,176 --> 00:36:35,576
Speaker 3: I thought he was just the most pretty good. I

897
00:36:35,576 --> 00:36:36,176
Speaker 3: can be wrong.

898
00:36:37,256 --> 00:36:40,296
Speaker 5: No touchdowns, but one hundred and sixty one total yards

899
00:36:40,456 --> 00:36:42,136
Speaker 5: total yards total, Yeah.

900
00:36:41,976 --> 00:36:43,336
Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty one's a lot.

901
00:36:43,496 --> 00:36:47,296
Speaker 3: Yeah, he deserved the MVP. But because there wasn't there

902
00:36:47,376 --> 00:36:48,656
Speaker 3: wasn't a dand out MVP.

903
00:36:48,816 --> 00:36:50,776
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Barner was the only one that scored a touchdown.

904
00:36:51,856 --> 00:36:52,336
Speaker 2: That's right.

905
00:36:53,416 --> 00:36:54,096
Speaker 3: They can't let him go.

906
00:36:54,136 --> 00:36:56,256
Speaker 2: You can't, like you, Superowl, Okay, you can't let him go.

907
00:36:56,336 --> 00:36:58,456
Speaker 2: Mike Evans, what is Tampa Bay deal? I think you

908
00:36:58,576 --> 00:37:00,216
Speaker 2: got to bring him back, like you're not going to

909
00:37:00,296 --> 00:37:02,656
Speaker 2: let him walk and go and be on another team.

910
00:37:02,696 --> 00:37:06,256
Speaker 2: He's all he had pretty much money, he won reductive Yeah,

911
00:37:06,296 --> 00:37:06,776
Speaker 2: that's true.

912
00:37:06,856 --> 00:37:08,216
Speaker 3: So I think it's a contract situation.

913
00:37:08,376 --> 00:37:11,456
Speaker 4: It will be a contract situation. Deebos Emuel's another interesting one.

914
00:37:11,816 --> 00:37:13,416
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel's Body's interesting.

915
00:37:14,096 --> 00:37:16,136
Speaker 2: His body is one hundred percent interesting.

916
00:37:16,176 --> 00:37:18,016
Speaker 3: He looks like a fat guy, but he does not

917
00:37:18,096 --> 00:37:18,856
Speaker 3: play like a fat guy.

918
00:37:18,976 --> 00:37:20,856
Speaker 2: He looks like a running back. That's a little bit overweight.

919
00:37:20,936 --> 00:37:22,296
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like James Harden when he wanted to

920
00:37:22,296 --> 00:37:22,696
Speaker 3: get traded.

921
00:37:22,816 --> 00:37:25,896
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's a hell of a football player.

922
00:37:25,936 --> 00:37:28,496
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Debot. How old is Debo though? He's

923
00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:31,536
Speaker 3: got to be mid thirties at this point, right, Like,

924
00:37:31,696 --> 00:37:33,296
Speaker 3: and he's not a running.

925
00:37:32,936 --> 00:37:35,376
Speaker 2: Back, No he's not, but he's so VERTI it's a

926
00:37:35,456 --> 00:37:36,336
Speaker 2: hybrid thirty.

927
00:37:36,776 --> 00:37:38,936
Speaker 5: He's only thirty, just turned thirty this year.

928
00:37:39,176 --> 00:37:40,536
Speaker 3: I don't think I can sign him to a long

929
00:37:40,616 --> 00:37:43,296
Speaker 3: term deal. But he's also not running back thirty because

930
00:37:43,296 --> 00:37:45,616
Speaker 3: he's a wide receiver. Right, it's a little and if

931
00:37:45,656 --> 00:37:47,656
Speaker 3: you're a hybrid, I think that's thirty three. If you're

932
00:37:47,656 --> 00:37:49,456
Speaker 3: a hybrid, that thirty is thirty.

933
00:37:49,136 --> 00:37:49,776
Speaker 2: Three, right.

934
00:37:49,816 --> 00:37:52,776
Speaker 4: And then Kyle Shanahan's system that they ran in the

935
00:37:52,776 --> 00:37:54,696
Speaker 4: forty nine ers when he shines so bright, it was

936
00:37:54,736 --> 00:37:57,296
Speaker 4: because they utilized the skill set, like he wasn't just

937
00:37:57,336 --> 00:37:59,656
Speaker 4: a wide receiver. They would put him in the backfield,

938
00:37:59,696 --> 00:38:01,536
Speaker 4: they'd run the jet sweeps, they'd let him get the

939
00:38:01,576 --> 00:38:03,536
Speaker 4: ball in his hand in space and do great things.

940
00:38:03,616 --> 00:38:06,296
Speaker 4: So somebody's got to pick him u and give him opportunity.

941
00:38:06,336 --> 00:38:08,176
Speaker 2: Then you got the Tyreek Hill sweepsake.

942
00:38:08,216 --> 00:38:10,736
Speaker 4: So it sounds like they're going to release him and

943
00:38:11,056 --> 00:38:14,336
Speaker 4: another guy coming off a major injury. And also, how

944
00:38:14,376 --> 00:38:16,816
Speaker 4: motivator are you to go out there and play. I'm

945
00:38:16,816 --> 00:38:18,856
Speaker 4: guessing he is motivated because he wants to get back

946
00:38:18,856 --> 00:38:19,496
Speaker 4: in the league.

947
00:38:19,296 --> 00:38:20,576
Speaker 2: And show everybody that he's healed.

948
00:38:20,616 --> 00:38:24,256
Speaker 4: But he's another guy that's an interesting wide receiver that'll

949
00:38:24,256 --> 00:38:25,336
Speaker 4: be out in the market this year.

950
00:38:26,056 --> 00:38:31,096
Speaker 3: His speed at some point, though, has to start going backward.

951
00:38:31,256 --> 00:38:33,496
Speaker 2: Even if it does, he's still going to be from

952
00:38:33,496 --> 00:38:34,856
Speaker 2: a four to two to a four to three to

953
00:38:34,896 --> 00:38:35,416
Speaker 2: be four to four.

954
00:38:35,816 --> 00:38:38,416
Speaker 3: But a four to four with that size is not

955
00:38:38,536 --> 00:38:40,936
Speaker 3: a four to two because he's not a big wide

956
00:38:40,936 --> 00:38:42,696
Speaker 3: receiver like he was able to get by because he

957
00:38:42,776 --> 00:38:43,496
Speaker 3: was so fast.

958
00:38:43,896 --> 00:38:47,016
Speaker 2: Right, But that's the question mark that everybody's going to say, I.

959
00:38:47,016 --> 00:38:50,216
Speaker 3: Don't want to on my team. He's a distraction, he's aging,

960
00:38:50,616 --> 00:38:53,176
Speaker 3: he's so good, he's coming off. I don't want Tom

961
00:38:53,176 --> 00:38:55,376
Speaker 3: on my team. Do you want Tyreek Hill on your team?

962
00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,016
Speaker 4: I mean, if he goes out and runs routes like

963
00:38:57,056 --> 00:38:58,936
Speaker 4: that and wins off the line, I would love him

964
00:38:59,096 --> 00:38:59,736
Speaker 4: to be on my team.

965
00:38:59,776 --> 00:39:01,736
Speaker 2: And I put up with that's it. That's it. That's

966
00:39:01,776 --> 00:39:02,736
Speaker 2: a big f right.

967
00:39:02,776 --> 00:39:04,776
Speaker 3: Now you're the g saying Tyreek Hill says, he'll come

968
00:39:04,816 --> 00:39:06,536
Speaker 3: to your team for.

969
00:39:08,496 --> 00:39:10,176
Speaker 2: It won't be the same money he was making.

970
00:39:09,976 --> 00:39:11,976
Speaker 3: Which was what thirty a year for twenty five.

971
00:39:12,176 --> 00:39:15,616
Speaker 4: If you're a desperate team at the wide receiver position

972
00:39:15,896 --> 00:39:18,016
Speaker 4: and you also have the ability to bring in a

973
00:39:18,056 --> 00:39:20,536
Speaker 4: superstar wide receiver, that might change the dynamics of that

974
00:39:20,616 --> 00:39:22,896
Speaker 4: room and give your quarterback an opportunity to go out

975
00:39:22,896 --> 00:39:26,296
Speaker 4: and perform better and your team offensively to be more explosive.

976
00:39:26,496 --> 00:39:27,576
Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna take a chance.

977
00:39:27,616 --> 00:39:28,376
Speaker 3: What if you're the Raiders.

978
00:39:29,176 --> 00:39:30,336
Speaker 2: Oh, I just I've.

979
00:39:30,136 --> 00:39:32,776
Speaker 4: Seen too many guys DeVante Adams, like so many guys

980
00:39:32,856 --> 00:39:35,296
Speaker 4: Antonio Brown, they all have gone there and the next thing,

981
00:39:35,336 --> 00:39:38,416
Speaker 4: you know, because of the character issues and because of

982
00:39:38,416 --> 00:39:39,896
Speaker 4: this functional Vegas.

983
00:39:40,016 --> 00:39:43,656
Speaker 3: Yeah it's Vegas in Miami's Vegas though, right.

984
00:39:44,336 --> 00:39:46,056
Speaker 4: But that's why he had problems there, even though he

985
00:39:46,136 --> 00:39:50,336
Speaker 4: was successful and really productive. I think it was the

986
00:39:50,416 --> 00:39:53,176
Speaker 4: same problem when you're disjointed in terms of your management

987
00:39:53,296 --> 00:39:55,736
Speaker 4: and who's in charge and everything else, and you do

988
00:39:55,776 --> 00:39:57,856
Speaker 4: have a new head coach, but it takes time to

989
00:39:57,896 --> 00:40:00,016
Speaker 4: build chemistry as a new head coach with a new

990
00:40:00,136 --> 00:40:02,576
Speaker 4: roster and all the different things going on you have

991
00:40:02,656 --> 00:40:04,856
Speaker 4: to have strong leadership on that team to bring somebody

992
00:40:04,896 --> 00:40:07,816
Speaker 4: in like that who is headstrong and has a strong

993
00:40:07,856 --> 00:40:10,936
Speaker 4: personality and has also have some off the field issues

994
00:40:10,936 --> 00:40:11,335
Speaker 4: as well.

995
00:40:11,416 --> 00:40:13,616
Speaker 3: I think Tyreek to me is James Harden in the NBA.

996
00:40:15,056 --> 00:40:17,776
Speaker 3: Like they can be extremely dynamic, but they can also

997
00:40:17,816 --> 00:40:19,096
Speaker 3: be so distracting.

998
00:40:19,536 --> 00:40:22,056
Speaker 2: Yes, because they're because of their personalities.

999
00:40:22,256 --> 00:40:23,976
Speaker 3: Jane Carden's been playing really well with Cleveland.

1000
00:40:24,016 --> 00:40:27,176
Speaker 2: By the way, He's a really good basketball player. He is.

1001
00:40:27,456 --> 00:40:29,536
Speaker 2: I mean, as much as people want to hate on

1002
00:40:29,616 --> 00:40:30,776
Speaker 2: him and this, he does win.

1003
00:40:30,936 --> 00:40:31,815
Speaker 3: He doesn't win the big ones.

1004
00:40:31,936 --> 00:40:33,576
Speaker 2: He hasn't won the big one, but he is a

1005
00:40:33,576 --> 00:40:34,656
Speaker 2: hell of a basketball player.

1006
00:40:34,736 --> 00:40:36,216
Speaker 3: Kevin, would you want Tyreek Hill on your team?

1007
00:40:36,456 --> 00:40:36,656
Speaker 2: No?

1008
00:40:37,176 --> 00:40:39,976
Speaker 5: If there is no injury, then probably. But the injury

1009
00:40:40,016 --> 00:40:43,176
Speaker 5: also scares me that the age, all that isn't worth

1010
00:40:43,256 --> 00:40:43,616
Speaker 5: it to me.

1011
00:40:43,856 --> 00:40:45,536
Speaker 3: How about Tyreek in Kansas City?

1012
00:40:46,176 --> 00:40:47,936
Speaker 2: See, I think that's an interesting call.

1013
00:40:47,976 --> 00:40:49,336
Speaker 5: I feel like that's the only place he's going to

1014
00:40:49,496 --> 00:40:51,496
Speaker 5: really be successful again.

1015
00:40:51,336 --> 00:40:53,536
Speaker 3: Because it's the only place he'll listen and respect. Yes.

1016
00:40:53,856 --> 00:40:57,856
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Patrick Patrick Mahomes the Enemy, is back as

1017
00:40:57,896 --> 00:41:00,136
Speaker 4: their offensive coordinator, who has dealt with him in the

1018
00:41:00,136 --> 00:41:02,776
Speaker 4: past and been able to suppress some of those things,

1019
00:41:03,296 --> 00:41:06,536
Speaker 4: and I'm sure he respects the hell out of out

1020
00:41:06,536 --> 00:41:08,656
Speaker 4: of Andy Reid. And sometimes when you go someplace like

1021
00:41:08,696 --> 00:41:11,616
Speaker 4: Miami that has some issues and then you come back

1022
00:41:11,656 --> 00:41:14,136
Speaker 4: to the organization that you left to go chase money,

1023
00:41:14,456 --> 00:41:17,336
Speaker 4: you have more of an appreciation for what you had before.

1024
00:41:17,856 --> 00:41:18,815
Speaker 2: That could be a great fit.

1025
00:41:19,096 --> 00:41:21,176
Speaker 3: But if it doesn't work, then you just look look

1026
00:41:21,176 --> 00:41:23,776
Speaker 3: like you're grabbing old guys with names to try to

1027
00:41:23,776 --> 00:41:24,335
Speaker 3: make it work.

1028
00:41:24,456 --> 00:41:26,096
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't know. If it's not going to work,

1029
00:41:26,296 --> 00:41:28,376
Speaker 2: he could be come back and be that dude. Again.

1030
00:41:29,256 --> 00:41:31,496
Speaker 5: That depends on rec Rice because he keeps getting in

1031
00:41:31,496 --> 00:41:32,016
Speaker 5: trouble too.

1032
00:41:32,256 --> 00:41:34,136
Speaker 2: I know, but that's what I'm saying.

1033
00:41:34,176 --> 00:41:35,816
Speaker 3: Do you want to add another character problem and you

1034
00:41:35,856 --> 00:41:39,016
Speaker 3: already have character problems that we know of, not the

1035
00:41:39,016 --> 00:41:40,256
Speaker 3: ones that we don't even know about.

1036
00:41:41,096 --> 00:41:43,416
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it always goes back to the GM

1037
00:41:43,456 --> 00:41:45,576
Speaker 4: and the head coach. How can you manage the situation,

1038
00:41:45,696 --> 00:41:48,416
Speaker 4: because that's the question that they have to answer at

1039
00:41:48,456 --> 00:41:49,736
Speaker 4: the end of the day. You can bring in It's

1040
00:41:49,776 --> 00:41:53,576
Speaker 4: many guys that are skilled and impressive athletes and great

1041
00:41:53,576 --> 00:41:56,896
Speaker 4: football players, but if it doesn't match the culture that

1042
00:41:56,936 --> 00:41:59,136
Speaker 4: you're trying to create, and it's more of a distraction

1043
00:41:59,216 --> 00:42:00,856
Speaker 4: than it is a help on the field, because you

1044
00:42:00,856 --> 00:42:02,576
Speaker 4: can show up on Sunday and play. We know that,

1045
00:42:02,976 --> 00:42:05,016
Speaker 4: but it's all the rest of stuff that happens throughout

1046
00:42:05,056 --> 00:42:06,376
Speaker 4: the week and whether or not you're going to be

1047
00:42:06,416 --> 00:42:09,456
Speaker 4: available because you did something stupid off the field that

1048
00:42:09,736 --> 00:42:12,576
Speaker 4: is going to directly impact your team. That's the question

1049
00:42:12,816 --> 00:42:15,576
Speaker 4: that it comes down to those guys making that final decision.

1050
00:42:16,336 --> 00:42:18,896
Speaker 3: I'm going to go know on Tyreek, No on Tyreek.

1051
00:42:18,936 --> 00:42:21,656
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go yes on Pickens. I hope he stays

1052
00:42:21,656 --> 00:42:24,216
Speaker 3: with the Cowboys because I think he is able to

1053
00:42:24,256 --> 00:42:26,736
Speaker 3: play with The Cowboys have a lot of veteran leadership there.

1054
00:42:26,816 --> 00:42:29,216
Speaker 3: They do, and there's somebody even crazier that's an even

1055
00:42:29,256 --> 00:42:31,096
Speaker 3: better wide receiver, so he can't even he's not even

1056
00:42:31,136 --> 00:42:32,216
Speaker 3: the best wide receiver on that team.

1057
00:42:32,256 --> 00:42:33,016
Speaker 2: Ceee Lambas.

1058
00:42:33,216 --> 00:42:36,616
Speaker 3: Yes, I hope Pickings says with Dallas they'll have to

1059
00:42:36,616 --> 00:42:37,216
Speaker 3: tag him.

1060
00:42:37,376 --> 00:42:38,816
Speaker 4: I believe that they're going to have to tag him

1061
00:42:38,816 --> 00:42:40,936
Speaker 4: because he's going to do. Every guy that has a

1062
00:42:41,016 --> 00:42:42,736
Speaker 4: year like he had is going to want to go

1063
00:42:42,776 --> 00:42:45,136
Speaker 4: out and test the free agency market to see if

1064
00:42:45,136 --> 00:42:47,896
Speaker 4: somebody will give him that four year, twenty plus million

1065
00:42:47,936 --> 00:42:50,536
Speaker 4: dollar deal and see if he can get his bag

1066
00:42:50,576 --> 00:42:53,016
Speaker 4: of cash. But at the end of the day, for

1067
00:42:53,136 --> 00:42:55,336
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys, as we talked about before, I don't

1068
00:42:55,336 --> 00:42:58,776
Speaker 4: think that they're willing to commit long term until they

1069
00:42:58,856 --> 00:43:01,976
Speaker 4: see that the way that he behaves on game day

1070
00:43:02,136 --> 00:43:03,616
Speaker 4: and throughout the course of the year is going to

1071
00:43:03,616 --> 00:43:06,336
Speaker 4: be consistent with somebody that's going to do it long term.

1072
00:43:06,576 --> 00:43:08,016
Speaker 3: They did sign Jontay Williams.

1073
00:43:08,456 --> 00:43:09,336
Speaker 5: Yeah, three years.

1074
00:43:09,936 --> 00:43:12,256
Speaker 3: Good for him, you know, coming off an injury when

1075
00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:14,776
Speaker 3: he went over to Dallas, like out of Denver, I

1076
00:43:14,816 --> 00:43:16,776
Speaker 3: played extremely consistent last year.

1077
00:43:16,776 --> 00:43:17,656
Speaker 2: If he was outstanding.

1078
00:43:17,776 --> 00:43:29,256
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have another interview we're gonna play now from

1079
00:43:29,256 --> 00:43:31,456
Speaker 3: when we were in San Francisco. And so this is

1080
00:43:31,496 --> 00:43:34,056
Speaker 3: former NFL wide receiver Victor Cruz. Victor played in the

1081
00:43:34,136 --> 00:43:36,056
Speaker 3: NFL for seven years, had over for three hundred catches

1082
00:43:36,056 --> 00:43:38,336
Speaker 3: twenty five touchdowns, won the Super Bowl with the Giants

1083
00:43:38,376 --> 00:43:41,096
Speaker 3: in twenty eleven win they beat the Patriots. Thanks to

1084
00:43:41,176 --> 00:43:44,616
Speaker 3: Victor for coming in here. He is Victor Cruz. Thanks

1085
00:43:44,656 --> 00:43:45,496
Speaker 3: for joining us, man.

1086
00:43:45,336 --> 00:43:47,256
Speaker 2: No problem, man, thanks for having me. Appreciate you.

1087
00:43:47,296 --> 00:43:49,696
Speaker 3: Whenever you got to the league, could you come in

1088
00:43:49,776 --> 00:43:51,816
Speaker 3: undrafted yep, when you get to the league, when did

1089
00:43:51,856 --> 00:43:54,016
Speaker 3: you know, oh I can do this.

1090
00:43:55,056 --> 00:43:56,136
Speaker 2: I think it was a two parter.

1091
00:43:56,256 --> 00:43:58,336
Speaker 6: I think in practice, right, like you get to go

1092
00:43:58,416 --> 00:44:00,496
Speaker 6: up against the guys. That was my biggest test, like

1093
00:44:00,656 --> 00:44:03,736
Speaker 6: early on was going up against guys like Terrell Thomas,

1094
00:44:03,736 --> 00:44:07,456
Speaker 6: Corey Webster, you know, Aaron Ross, Like just measuring my

1095
00:44:07,576 --> 00:44:09,856
Speaker 6: talent levels up against those guys, seeing if I can

1096
00:44:09,896 --> 00:44:12,656
Speaker 6: win on route, seeing if my quickness and my ability

1097
00:44:12,776 --> 00:44:14,815
Speaker 6: was able to win on certain route combos and things

1098
00:44:14,856 --> 00:44:17,456
Speaker 6: like that. And then I was anxious to do it

1099
00:44:17,456 --> 00:44:20,136
Speaker 6: against an opposing team or just another team. What we

1100
00:44:20,256 --> 00:44:23,056
Speaker 6: prepare and we scheme and do the whole you know,

1101
00:44:23,136 --> 00:44:25,976
Speaker 6: week of practice and do those things. So it was

1102
00:44:26,096 --> 00:44:28,176
Speaker 6: again the week one against the Jets when I was like,

1103
00:44:28,416 --> 00:44:30,696
Speaker 6: I did it in practice, Can I do it against

1104
00:44:30,696 --> 00:44:33,656
Speaker 6: another team when they know it's coming or when they've

1105
00:44:33,656 --> 00:44:35,936
Speaker 6: prepared for us as well and they can see it coming.

1106
00:44:36,416 --> 00:44:38,976
Speaker 6: And when I performed against the Jets and in that

1107
00:44:39,056 --> 00:44:41,416
Speaker 6: first preseason game, I think that's when I knew like, Okay,

1108
00:44:41,856 --> 00:44:44,096
Speaker 6: I can play at this level and if I stay

1109
00:44:44,096 --> 00:44:45,896
Speaker 6: focused and stay locked in, I can really have a

1110
00:44:46,336 --> 00:44:47,016
Speaker 6: good career here.

1111
00:44:47,296 --> 00:44:49,696
Speaker 2: You know, in twenty eleven was like your breakout year.

1112
00:44:49,816 --> 00:44:53,176
Speaker 4: What was it about that year that made you guys

1113
00:44:53,296 --> 00:44:54,176
Speaker 4: so exceptional?

1114
00:44:54,336 --> 00:44:55,856
Speaker 2: Was it the chemistry with Eli?

1115
00:44:56,536 --> 00:44:58,416
Speaker 4: Was it certain things that you worked on in terms

1116
00:44:58,456 --> 00:45:00,616
Speaker 4: of routeriting, like just talk about that year because it

1117
00:45:00,656 --> 00:45:01,176
Speaker 4: was amazing.

1118
00:45:01,376 --> 00:45:02,856
Speaker 6: I think it was a couple of things. I think

1119
00:45:02,896 --> 00:45:06,856
Speaker 6: it was definitely the connection with Eli. I think for

1120
00:45:06,976 --> 00:45:09,936
Speaker 6: me specifically, the year before that was a lockout year

1121
00:45:10,176 --> 00:45:12,896
Speaker 6: and I was the only guy that was local that

1122
00:45:12,896 --> 00:45:13,776
Speaker 6: Eli could throw with.

1123
00:45:14,576 --> 00:45:16,616
Speaker 2: And yes, yeah, I was like.

1124
00:45:17,176 --> 00:45:19,856
Speaker 6: I remember him calling me and I was like, is

1125
00:45:19,896 --> 00:45:22,376
Speaker 6: somebody pranking me? Is this Eli on my phone right here?

1126
00:45:22,416 --> 00:45:22,776
Speaker 2: Like what?

1127
00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:25,336
Speaker 6: And he says, come up to Hoboken. I want to

1128
00:45:25,336 --> 00:45:26,656
Speaker 6: throw And I was like, okay, We're about to go

1129
00:45:26,736 --> 00:45:29,815
Speaker 6: to some plush football field and Hoboken and like throw

1130
00:45:29,856 --> 00:45:32,496
Speaker 6: the ball around. Let me bring my cleats, and like bring.

1131
00:45:32,656 --> 00:45:35,056
Speaker 6: We were in the dog park in front of his

1132
00:45:35,336 --> 00:45:38,976
Speaker 6: Hoboken establishment, playing catch and throwing the ball around and

1133
00:45:38,976 --> 00:45:40,736
Speaker 6: people were looking. It was like eight am and people

1134
00:45:40,736 --> 00:45:42,816
Speaker 6: were looking at us walking their dog like is that

1135
00:45:42,856 --> 00:45:46,336
Speaker 6: Eli throwing the ball over there? And I think I

1136
00:45:46,376 --> 00:45:48,536
Speaker 6: got to ask him a hundred questions on how he

1137
00:45:48,656 --> 00:45:51,416
Speaker 6: likes the routes to be run on, you know, just

1138
00:45:51,536 --> 00:45:54,336
Speaker 6: understanding that offense a level deeper, and I think that

1139
00:45:54,456 --> 00:45:56,536
Speaker 6: helped me once I became a start of the following

1140
00:45:56,616 --> 00:45:59,256
Speaker 6: year that like I already had a leg up and

1141
00:45:59,416 --> 00:46:02,176
Speaker 6: understanding the offense through his lens and how he wanted

1142
00:46:02,216 --> 00:46:05,296
Speaker 6: it ran. And in that particular offense, being a slot receiver,

1143
00:46:05,936 --> 00:46:08,016
Speaker 6: there was a lot going on, a lot of different options.

1144
00:46:08,016 --> 00:46:09,936
Speaker 6: You got to you almost have to be an extension

1145
00:46:09,936 --> 00:46:12,376
Speaker 6: of the offensive line when blitzers are coming. You just

1146
00:46:12,416 --> 00:46:15,576
Speaker 6: have to be aware of what's happening. And that wasn't

1147
00:46:15,616 --> 00:46:18,416
Speaker 6: always easy. So to have kind of a head start

1148
00:46:18,456 --> 00:46:21,656
Speaker 6: on that was really really beneficial. So that helped early

1149
00:46:21,696 --> 00:46:25,576
Speaker 6: on and foremost, and then just the confidence level that

1150
00:46:25,896 --> 00:46:29,256
Speaker 6: the coaching staff had in me, in us and they

1151
00:46:29,336 --> 00:46:32,656
Speaker 6: really put their all behind us. Coach Coffin, our receiver coach,

1152
00:46:32,736 --> 00:46:36,696
Speaker 6: coach gilbrid who was our OC. He really believed in

1153
00:46:36,736 --> 00:46:39,016
Speaker 6: what he saw in all of us and put that

1154
00:46:39,056 --> 00:46:41,296
Speaker 6: to the forefront when he was scheming up plays weekend

1155
00:46:41,296 --> 00:46:43,296
Speaker 6: and week out and putting us in the best positions

1156
00:46:43,896 --> 00:46:45,936
Speaker 6: to win for elow to hit us and make big plays.

1157
00:46:46,176 --> 00:46:48,736
Speaker 3: When we've talked to people about Coach Coughlin. They love them,

1158
00:46:48,736 --> 00:46:50,936
Speaker 3: but they definitely say it wasn't a player's coach.

1159
00:46:51,376 --> 00:46:54,176
Speaker 2: What was he like? You know, the first day he

1160
00:46:54,216 --> 00:46:55,136
Speaker 2: came in, I never forget.

1161
00:46:55,136 --> 00:46:56,736
Speaker 6: He was like, I love all of you, but I'm

1162
00:46:56,776 --> 00:46:59,496
Speaker 6: gonna treat you all differently. And I was like, okay,

1163
00:47:00,216 --> 00:47:02,376
Speaker 6: there's one way to go about it. But I love

1164
00:47:02,456 --> 00:47:04,536
Speaker 6: the guy man. I think he would never he never

1165
00:47:04,576 --> 00:47:06,616
Speaker 6: hit who he was. He was always a straight shooter.

1166
00:47:06,736 --> 00:47:09,136
Speaker 6: He always wanted the best for all of us, and

1167
00:47:09,456 --> 00:47:12,296
Speaker 6: I think he cared. I think, contrary to what it

1168
00:47:12,376 --> 00:47:15,776
Speaker 6: may have looked like, I think he cared about the

1169
00:47:15,776 --> 00:47:18,256
Speaker 6: well being of you individually if you were going through something.

1170
00:47:18,296 --> 00:47:20,616
Speaker 6: I remember I had my injuries and he would come

1171
00:47:20,696 --> 00:47:22,376
Speaker 6: up and ask me if I was okay, and I

1172
00:47:22,376 --> 00:47:24,696
Speaker 6: would get scared. I'm like, I'm doing great, I'm coming back,

1173
00:47:24,736 --> 00:47:26,816
Speaker 6: I'm feeling better this week. And he was like, I

1174
00:47:26,816 --> 00:47:29,056
Speaker 6: don't care about that, Like, how are you as a person,

1175
00:47:29,136 --> 00:47:31,576
Speaker 6: how are you emotionally doing? How are you at home?

1176
00:47:31,616 --> 00:47:34,456
Speaker 6: How's your family dealing with your injury? You being home more?

1177
00:47:34,896 --> 00:47:36,815
Speaker 6: And he wanted to get to know me. He wanted

1178
00:47:36,856 --> 00:47:39,696
Speaker 6: to know that stuff. So I think for me, I

1179
00:47:39,736 --> 00:47:41,536
Speaker 6: love the fact that he was a hard nosed coach.

1180
00:47:41,576 --> 00:47:43,576
Speaker 6: That's all I ever had leading up to that point

1181
00:47:43,616 --> 00:47:46,296
Speaker 6: were guys that were expected the most out of you

1182
00:47:46,416 --> 00:47:48,576
Speaker 6: and would curse you out a little bit if they

1183
00:47:48,576 --> 00:47:49,976
Speaker 6: need to. And if they didn't curse you out, that

1184
00:47:50,016 --> 00:47:52,656
Speaker 6: means they didn't love you kind of thing. So I

1185
00:47:52,776 --> 00:47:55,176
Speaker 6: enjoyed that coaching style, and Coach Coffin brought it each

1186
00:47:55,176 --> 00:47:55,736
Speaker 6: and every week.

1187
00:47:55,936 --> 00:47:58,376
Speaker 4: You know, we talked about that you were undrafted, But

1188
00:47:58,416 --> 00:47:59,976
Speaker 4: what was it like when you got the phone call

1189
00:48:00,056 --> 00:48:02,576
Speaker 4: that you made your first Pro Bowl? Because that's a

1190
00:48:02,576 --> 00:48:06,136
Speaker 4: special honor that not a lot of people to say.

1191
00:48:06,016 --> 00:48:08,096
Speaker 2: That was huge. I think that was the biggest thing.

1192
00:48:08,176 --> 00:48:10,496
Speaker 6: Obviously, coming from winning a Super Bowl the year before,

1193
00:48:11,096 --> 00:48:12,656
Speaker 6: the next goal was like, all right, let's make a

1194
00:48:12,696 --> 00:48:14,736
Speaker 6: Pro Bowl and let's be all pro, and like let's

1195
00:48:14,776 --> 00:48:17,456
Speaker 6: get on that list and to get that phone call.

1196
00:48:17,736 --> 00:48:19,816
Speaker 6: And this is when the game was still in Hawaii

1197
00:48:19,896 --> 00:48:21,896
Speaker 6: and it was still helmets and shoulder pads and like

1198
00:48:21,936 --> 00:48:24,576
Speaker 6: a game, and it was just everything I wanted it

1199
00:48:24,616 --> 00:48:26,456
Speaker 6: to be. It was you know, I grew up watching

1200
00:48:26,496 --> 00:48:28,936
Speaker 6: the Pro Bowl. I grew up watching Sean Taylor, the

1201
00:48:29,096 --> 00:48:30,416
Speaker 6: cleat punters.

1202
00:48:29,976 --> 00:48:30,656
Speaker 2: In the Pro Bowl.

1203
00:48:30,776 --> 00:48:33,736
Speaker 6: Grew up watching Ray Lewis move around, and just like

1204
00:48:34,736 --> 00:48:37,896
Speaker 6: it was respected. It was a rite of passage to

1205
00:48:37,936 --> 00:48:40,456
Speaker 6: go to the Pro Bowl and bring your family in.

1206
00:48:40,576 --> 00:48:43,376
Speaker 6: Just that whole week was always so special and I

1207
00:48:43,456 --> 00:48:45,816
Speaker 6: really embraced it and loved it. And to be one

1208
00:48:45,816 --> 00:48:47,376
Speaker 6: of the guys to say I was a Pro Bowler

1209
00:48:47,536 --> 00:48:48,616
Speaker 6: was a special moment.

1210
00:48:48,856 --> 00:48:49,816
Speaker 2: What's Puerto Rico like?

1211
00:48:50,376 --> 00:48:53,456
Speaker 6: It's incredible, man, There's so much energy, so much vibes.

1212
00:48:53,816 --> 00:48:59,016
Speaker 6: The food is incredible, the beaches are stunning. I think

1213
00:48:59,016 --> 00:49:01,176
Speaker 6: it's a place where I still have family there. I

1214
00:49:01,216 --> 00:49:03,536
Speaker 6: still try to go once a year and visit them

1215
00:49:03,576 --> 00:49:06,936
Speaker 6: and hang out with them. A place where you can

1216
00:49:06,976 --> 00:49:09,216
Speaker 6: go and do all of the things that you want

1217
00:49:09,256 --> 00:49:11,136
Speaker 6: to do and all of the things that that you want,

1218
00:49:11,176 --> 00:49:11,816
Speaker 6: and you'll be in a.

1219
00:49:11,776 --> 00:49:13,976
Speaker 2: T shirt the whole or T shirts are optional in

1220
00:49:14,016 --> 00:49:16,056
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico. You have to wear a T shirt. The

1221
00:49:16,096 --> 00:49:17,776
Speaker 2: weather's great, so that helps.

1222
00:49:18,336 --> 00:49:20,576
Speaker 6: But Puerto Rico is just a special place, and I

1223
00:49:20,616 --> 00:49:22,576
Speaker 6: think Bad Buddy is going to do a really good

1224
00:49:22,656 --> 00:49:24,576
Speaker 6: job of bringing us into Puerto Rico.

1225
00:49:25,016 --> 00:49:27,496
Speaker 2: I haveltime with the Super Bowl, Victor, appreciate the time,

1226
00:49:27,616 --> 00:49:28,016
Speaker 2: no problem.

1227
00:49:28,096 --> 00:49:30,136
Speaker 3: I love watching you in the league and appreciate your

1228
00:49:30,176 --> 00:49:30,456
Speaker 3: time here.

1229
00:49:30,456 --> 00:49:31,536
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Man go.

1230
00:49:35,936 --> 00:49:38,096
Speaker 3: Before we go. I liked to say something to all

1231
00:49:38,136 --> 00:49:40,696
Speaker 3: of our listeners out there. There is something called the zipper.

1232
00:49:41,376 --> 00:49:45,656
Speaker 4: You're familiar with the zipper not on the pants, Oh,

1233
00:49:45,776 --> 00:49:47,456
Speaker 4: the zipper, No.

1234
00:49:47,376 --> 00:49:51,696
Speaker 3: I'm not whenever you are merging in traffic, okay. And

1235
00:49:51,776 --> 00:49:54,376
Speaker 3: other countries do it way better than we do in America. Yes,

1236
00:49:54,576 --> 00:49:58,936
Speaker 3: it is called the zipper. One in one go, one

1237
00:49:58,936 --> 00:49:59,736
Speaker 3: in one go.

1238
00:50:00,696 --> 00:50:04,736
Speaker 2: They're better on the East Coast because of the roundabouts.

1239
00:50:04,896 --> 00:50:07,456
Speaker 3: The interest. I was watching some bad zipper today.

1240
00:50:07,976 --> 00:50:08,936
Speaker 2: You feel it.

1241
00:50:08,936 --> 00:50:11,256
Speaker 3: Well, some people want to be mother Teresa and let

1242
00:50:11,256 --> 00:50:13,576
Speaker 3: three people go, just let one. You're not going to

1243
00:50:13,616 --> 00:50:15,896
Speaker 3: get an award for letting three people go. Then some

1244
00:50:15,936 --> 00:50:17,416
Speaker 3: people will get right up on the butt if somebody

1245
00:50:17,416 --> 00:50:18,256
Speaker 3: else and not let.

1246
00:50:18,096 --> 00:50:22,776
Speaker 4: A person go, what's worse the person letting three out.

1247
00:50:22,976 --> 00:50:23,856
Speaker 2: No, I hate thee.

1248
00:50:24,216 --> 00:50:27,536
Speaker 3: Because that's worse because there's gonna be accidents, at least

1249
00:50:27,576 --> 00:50:28,976
Speaker 3: the one with the butt that's up on the butt.

1250
00:50:29,016 --> 00:50:31,216
Speaker 3: That's annoying. You're not a good person, But there's not

1251
00:50:31,256 --> 00:50:33,016
Speaker 3: gonna be no accident because no one thinks they can

1252
00:50:33,056 --> 00:50:33,416
Speaker 3: pull out.

1253
00:50:33,536 --> 00:50:34,776
Speaker 2: I'm on the opposite side of that.

1254
00:50:34,856 --> 00:50:36,976
Speaker 4: I hate the people that won't look at you and

1255
00:50:37,136 --> 00:50:39,776
Speaker 4: just ride the bumper and act like you're not even there,

1256
00:50:39,816 --> 00:50:41,536
Speaker 4: and you're just like, are you seriously?

1257
00:50:41,576 --> 00:50:42,496
Speaker 3: I don't like them either.

1258
00:50:42,616 --> 00:50:44,296
Speaker 2: I want to jump out of the car and beat

1259
00:50:44,296 --> 00:50:45,456
Speaker 2: the living you know what out of them.

1260
00:50:45,496 --> 00:50:47,056
Speaker 3: But I feel like that's safer than the people that

1261
00:50:47,056 --> 00:50:49,616
Speaker 3: are letting multiples because that second persons like me go

1262
00:50:49,696 --> 00:50:52,376
Speaker 3: guess break gues break. There's something called a zipper. When

1263
00:50:52,416 --> 00:50:54,656
Speaker 3: you're going into traffic or you're letting people in traffic,

1264
00:50:55,376 --> 00:50:56,536
Speaker 3: let one person.

1265
00:50:56,256 --> 00:50:59,696
Speaker 2: Go, one person in, one person go go.

1266
00:51:00,016 --> 00:51:02,736
Speaker 3: Let one in, you go the next person, let one in,

1267
00:51:03,016 --> 00:51:06,056
Speaker 3: they go, don't let two in and don't keep all out.

1268
00:51:07,016 --> 00:51:09,576
Speaker 3: It's just amazing how incompetent people are on the road.

1269
00:51:10,216 --> 00:51:14,096
Speaker 2: I sometimes will let two people go. I hope that

1270
00:51:14,136 --> 00:51:15,776
Speaker 2: we get into a situation.

1271
00:51:15,376 --> 00:51:18,336
Speaker 4: Where you're trying to come into my lane today and

1272
00:51:18,376 --> 00:51:19,176
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like.

1273
00:51:20,136 --> 00:51:21,976
Speaker 3: I always admire people that will just stick their car

1274
00:51:22,056 --> 00:51:24,056
Speaker 3: nos out in front, even if a car's coming, Oh.

1275
00:51:23,976 --> 00:51:25,816
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just like, hey, look if you hit me,

1276
00:51:25,856 --> 00:51:28,776
Speaker 4: it's on you. I do I do appreciate the aggressive.

1277
00:51:28,416 --> 00:51:29,616
Speaker 3: Driving, Yeah, I can admire it.

1278
00:51:29,616 --> 00:51:31,815
Speaker 2: I don't do that I don't either. I really don't

1279
00:51:31,816 --> 00:51:33,816
Speaker 2: want to get my car hit or anything like that,

1280
00:51:33,896 --> 00:51:35,976
Speaker 2: and I have to deal with that same. Yeah, I'd

1281
00:51:35,976 --> 00:51:37,136
Speaker 2: just be like, okay, did go.

1282
00:51:37,376 --> 00:51:38,536
Speaker 3: So that's what I want to leave you with.

1283
00:51:38,776 --> 00:51:40,856
Speaker 2: Respect the zipper, Respect the zipper.

1284
00:51:40,936 --> 00:51:43,416
Speaker 3: One in, then you go, one in, then you go,

1285
00:51:43,696 --> 00:51:46,536
Speaker 3: respect the zipper. That's all all right. That's zipp for

1286
00:51:46,576 --> 00:51:50,216
Speaker 3: this week, my Castle, God bless you. Kick off Kevin,

1287
00:51:50,416 --> 00:51:53,336
Speaker 3: Brandon Ray and Bobby Bones. We will see you guys

1288
00:51:53,416 --> 00:51:57,096
Speaker 3: next week. Thanks to Victor Cruz for being on with us,

1289
00:51:57,136 --> 00:51:57,976
Speaker 3: although he did it like three.

1290
00:51:57,896 --> 00:52:00,176
Speaker 2: Weeks ago, so yeah, who wants to come back then?

1291
00:52:00,216 --> 00:52:02,176
Speaker 3: Thanks in the past at Victor Kruz. We will see

1292
00:52:02,216 --> 00:52:04,056
Speaker 3: you guys next week. We've had lots of say aodbuyer.

1293
00:52:03,816 --> 00:52:12,936
Speaker 1: Buddy, lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle

1294
00:52:13,096 --> 00:52:16,496
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1295
00:52:16,616 --> 00:52:20,696
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1296
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