WEBVTT - Part One: Halloween Special: Spooky Stories

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<v Speaker 1>Cools Media. Hello and welcome to cool People did cool stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>or as it should be called this week. Margaret didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come up with a funny title for spooky Week. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's called. That's what my show is called.

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<v Speaker 2>You are, in fact the cool person who did something cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Thanks, because it's spooky week. And also I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>tour and so I didn't write a script. Instead, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to read you all stories. And by you all,

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<v Speaker 1>I mostly mean my friends Prop and Sophie. Hi, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you all? Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Mac Paisy make the blood sport look easy? It's

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<v Speaker 2>going down.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been listening. For anyone who doesn't already listen

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<v Speaker 1>to Hood Politics with Prop, you're missing out. It is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite keeping up with what's happening in the political

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<v Speaker 1>world thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been telling everyone about this piece you did about

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<v Speaker 1>the future of coffee. Yes, all, it could happen here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and how like there's like what twenty seven years left

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee? Spot it and that episode covers everything that

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<v Speaker 1>people who I don't know people might have already heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they, if you haven't, I should go out

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to it because it covers everything about like

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<v Speaker 1>how the problem was formed, basically everything that's wrong with capitalism,

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<v Speaker 1>and almost all of the ideas about how we get

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<v Speaker 1>out of that problem, which usually involves like supporting worker

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<v Speaker 1>cooperatives in the global South.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all there, dude. Thanks. That was like it's

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<v Speaker 2>been simmering for a while because I feel like with

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is me continuing to be vulnerable. I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like with like the like it could happen

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<v Speaker 2>here team, and you also in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all are like actual writers and journalists. Like I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>poet that can rap and just knows a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, I was always like nervous to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh okay, So I was like, let me, I better

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<v Speaker 2>be thorough if I'm gonna do something for y'all. So

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<v Speaker 2>like I I and it was like something that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously I'm like super passionate about it. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like here's here's a microcosm of all that's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with capitalism, colonialism, right, consumerism, you know, all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the solution being the shit we've been trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say is the solution the whole time just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>cooperates fort each other. Stop seeing people as resources.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost frustrating how simple the problems really are at

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<v Speaker 1>the core of it, because then we still can't do them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like on the large enough scale. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie's our producer. Hi, Sophie, I hey look one to Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great it's as of this recording. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>really good.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels really good. We're talking about the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured it was a sports thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's sports ball.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels really good today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah at this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah. I just keep watching those span atits of

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<v Speaker 1>JJ's timeouts and huddles versus Darwin Ham's, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>feelverly warm and fuzzy inside.

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<v Speaker 2>So he is now a cool person who did a

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<v Speaker 2>cool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because like, the thing is he took a time out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the thing is like for the last few years,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had a coach who just feels like, just play through,

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<v Speaker 2>like and you guys will find your rhythm. So, but

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<v Speaker 2>what you normally do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like we never did, we never did.

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<v Speaker 2>What you normally do is like if the other team

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<v Speaker 2>is like dog walking you and just like running the

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<v Speaker 2>scoreboard up. You try to stop their momentum by calling

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<v Speaker 2>a time out like okay, well stop stop stop stop stop,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and hopefully that breaks their zone and then

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<v Speaker 2>gives you a chance to like regroup and maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>some momentum back. He just never did it. So we

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<v Speaker 2>were like so many times yelling at the TV call

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<v Speaker 2>a time out, like he's already dead. We're already like

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<v Speaker 2>you said. So just in game one while we were

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<v Speaker 2>winning beautiful, we just he was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>he called a timeout like I already love you. Just

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<v Speaker 2>air missing they won and they won.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so so all I can say JJ salute man.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I have my I have my concerns, but

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<v Speaker 2>like you have a suage to my concerns. With one

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<v Speaker 2>game one.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, we were like, oh are we oh he different?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we slightly? Are we slightly safer?

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, it's like it's like you dating a person

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<v Speaker 2>that finally does the bare minimum of like yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll cover to day, cover the meal, like what you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying it just really Yeah, you decided

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<v Speaker 2>to shower before we went out today, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bar was on the floor and you lifted up your feet.

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<v Speaker 2>The bars on the floor. It's like, oh, oh you different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Rory is our audio engineer. Everyon wants to say

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<v Speaker 1>hi to Rory. Hi, Rory.

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<v Speaker 2>Rory.

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<v Speaker 1>Our theme music was written for Uced by Unwoman and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>spooky week. I'm on tour. I'm reading a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>stories as I go around on tour, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>prop you've toured. I hear you talk about I have. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all I'm doing is like waking up, driving for many hours,

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<v Speaker 1>reading for a bunch of people, and then going to

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel and then going to sleep and then repeating

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<v Speaker 1>that yes and yeah. It's also very rewarding and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the hell out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is. Yeah, there's no like there's no week

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<v Speaker 2>days or weekends. Yeah, it's just kind of now. Granted

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<v Speaker 2>you're not sweating and throwing your voice out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great, but that's true. Still You're just like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I make this city, make them feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this was the first time I've done this? Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the first time, they're experiencing it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to make it special. But it can be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wait, what what state is this?

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<v Speaker 1>And the end totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then this you know, this Marriott that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>staying in with the just the free, the free Continental

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<v Speaker 2>egg breakfast that you might as well just flush down

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<v Speaker 2>the toilet, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's just gonna run

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<v Speaker 2>right through you. But like, yeah, no, I get it well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's like I ended up at a you know, somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>put me up in a hotel that I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like I don't belong here, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be in this place. Like I'm walking in with

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<v Speaker 1>like patched pants and a dog that's afraid of cars,

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<v Speaker 1>and just like and they're like, there's valet service. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have like this giant West Virginia pickup truck because

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<v Speaker 1>my van broke down before I left on tour.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I don't sorry, guys, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know how to I don't know how to do

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<v Speaker 1>valet service. And they're like, it's fine, just give us

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<v Speaker 1>the keys to your truck.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, like, I I apologize in advance for

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<v Speaker 2>when you get into this truck. And yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>not prepared for anyone else to get into this Corok.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I've been I've been living in this truck

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<v Speaker 1>for two weeks, so you know, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for us, it's like if you can climb over

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<v Speaker 2>the boxes of merch, yeah, you know, and bags of

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<v Speaker 2>sunflower seeds, then yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>To read you a story today and then a story. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read you two stories today, but the audience

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<v Speaker 1>will hear one of them today and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday. And this story, the first one I wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually never set out to write horror. The first

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<v Speaker 1>time I really got into writing, and then slowly because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't watch well now I watch horror, but for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time I didn't watch horror because I lived

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<v Speaker 1>in a van alone in like the woods a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. Yeah nah, I don't need to watch

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<v Speaker 1>people like me get murdered all the time. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound fun, you know. And then eventually I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>actually most horror movies are me murdering people instead. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I moved into like a black cabin in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you are the yea, you are the fear.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I could watch horror movies again, and and

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<v Speaker 1>so I started writing more horror, and this story is

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<v Speaker 1>a story I wrote a while ago now, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the title story to my book We Won't Be Here

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow and other stories. Okay, a story is called we

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<v Speaker 1>Won't be Here Tomorrow. Okay. I turned thirty yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about being part of a teenage death cult

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<v Speaker 1>is you're not supposed to turn thirty. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>personal failure on my part, the kind of personal failure

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<v Speaker 1>that meant the ghouls of New Orleans were after me.

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<v Speaker 1>The night air was alive with the usual white noise

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<v Speaker 1>of gunshots and fireworks, and I stalked the cemetery, bouquet

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<v Speaker 1>in hand, past row after row of people who died young.

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<v Speaker 1>Some were at rest in their own above ground tombs,

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<v Speaker 1>others had been crammed into mausoleums. No one ever seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to ask why so many gutter rats and punks were

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<v Speaker 1>buried in relative luxury in a private graveyard within city limits.

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<v Speaker 1>We humans are a relatively non curious species. On the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>I laid thirteen white roses on Deirdre's grave. Deirdre didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like flowers, but I like flowers. What she doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, because she's dead, dead and eaten. Everyone I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever loved, really loved, not the like. The requisite and

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<v Speaker 1>insincere love of child for parent was laid out within

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<v Speaker 1>one city blocks worth of marble and cement. Janelle Mariette

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson nineteen ninety to two thousand and nine, the girl

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<v Speaker 1>I came to New Orleans for who broke my heart

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<v Speaker 1>by deciding she was straight after all. She died drunk

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<v Speaker 1>on a freight train before I had the chance to

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<v Speaker 1>forgive her, before I had the chance to tell her

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing to forgive. Erica Freeman nineteen eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty thirteen, the next straight girl after Janelle. We

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<v Speaker 1>stayed friends. We played in three bands together. The last

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<v Speaker 1>one was Dead Girl, Suicide on stage, Blood on the Crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't forgiven her. Jorge Jefferson dead at twenty. Marcel

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<v Speaker 1>Smith made it to twenty four, Damian Polanski twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Lance, Heather Maria twenty three, each of them, Susie

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton and Suzanne Lanover never saw twenty. Deirdre Hanson nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two to twenty eighteen. I was so sure she

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<v Speaker 1>was straight that she had to hit on me for

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<v Speaker 1>a year before I let her kiss me. The year

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<v Speaker 1>is a long time for people like us. The ghoul Sworn.

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<v Speaker 1>We finally kissed down on the levee at a place

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<v Speaker 1>called the End of the World. We were old then already.

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<v Speaker 1>I was twenty four and it was her twenty third birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>and what I got her was goods and services from

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors. That's what you get. Ooho, yo, wild you.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the best I would say in the history.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the you got. Because I was so in

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<v Speaker 2>this story. I was like, yeah, God, goods, it's wait

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<v Speaker 2>what oh like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, take pride in my work.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in like in that was wow, that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the ads and we're back. She spent her twenty

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<v Speaker 1>third birthday with me, with just me. Two days after

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<v Speaker 1>her twenty sixth she died in a house fire at

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<v Speaker 1>a party in the Seventh Ward, along with two other people,

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<v Speaker 1>one ghul sworn, one just unlucky enough to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with the doomed. I would have been at the party,

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<v Speaker 1>but my truck wouldn't start and my bike had a

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<v Speaker 1>flat and I was feeling lazy. So she'd died without me,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Ghules put her here and every year on

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<v Speaker 1>the anniversary of her death, their back at her corpse

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<v Speaker 1>for another little bit of her soul. A knuckle here,

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<v Speaker 1>a femur there. They eat bones and they live forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And Deirdre was dead, like all of us. Ghulesworn were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be while we were still young, and our

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<v Speaker 1>essence was still strong in our marrow. There I was alive.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't long until dawn until the ghules would rise

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<v Speaker 1>with the sun and haunt me. Haunt me. Already, dogs

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<v Speaker 1>were howling, already, there was light on the horizon. One

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<v Speaker 1>day soon I'd be and the words Mary Walker were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be carved into stone. People go to New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans to die. I didn't want to die anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to get going. I had to track down ghosts

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<v Speaker 1>and rumors of those who'd escaped. I left the flowers

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<v Speaker 1>for Deirdre. Fuck you, Deirdre, Fuck you for dying. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Janelle who'd offered me the bargain. This would have

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<v Speaker 1>been where I should have done the ad transit anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>N the way you did it was perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't been in the city for more than a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and she and I had been crashing on the roof

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<v Speaker 1>of an abandoned grocery store. That place as of whole

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<v Speaker 1>foods now might get torn down by bezos tomorrow. I've

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<v Speaker 1>outlived every derelict building I've ever known. Y'all go hard

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<v Speaker 1>down here, I told her, after an evening that involved

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<v Speaker 1>stealing drugs from a dealer, consuming those drugs, trying and

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<v Speaker 1>failing to steal more drugs from the same dealer, and

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<v Speaker 1>a roving party that moved through the darker bits of

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<v Speaker 1>the city with a generator and a sound system and

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<v Speaker 1>a shopping cart. Revelry had followed us like a cloud

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<v Speaker 1>overhead dancing debauchery. Sobriety was creeping up on me unwanted,

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<v Speaker 1>like a fever, and I wasn't entirely sure how we'd

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<v Speaker 1>made it back from the party to our tarped off

0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.440
<v Speaker 1>overhang on that rooftop. I was eighteen. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to describe being eighteen, but you either remember it

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or you might live long enough to know. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear why, Janelle asked, Yeah, we can't go

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<v Speaker 1>to jail. What it's gonna sound crazy? She said, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>I was born for crazy. Worse than that, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you everything unless you join us. Whatever she was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, I already knew I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>go along with it. I thought the sun shone out

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<v Speaker 1>of that girl's asshole. I would have followed her into

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<v Speaker 1>a wood chipper. Oh to be eighteen again. What's it involved?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked, a permanent get out of jail free card.

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<v Speaker 1>Cops will look the other way, the courts will look

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. In exchange, you gotta die before you're thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>like someone will kill me, not unless you turn thirty.

0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect to turn thirty anyway. The way the

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<v Speaker 1>world was and is who does survival didn't really seem possible,

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<v Speaker 1>so I refused to prioritize it. I'm in that morning

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<v Speaker 1>as a ketamine hangover started in on me. Janelle took

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<v Speaker 1>me to meet the Ghules for the first time. The

0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.800
<v Speaker 1>hot winter sun bore down on me, but I kept

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<v Speaker 1>my hood up, as if a ratty black hoodie offered

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<v Speaker 1>me any sort of anonymity or protection. In the kangaroo pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>I fingered my revolver snubnose. Shit for most purposes, good

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<v Speaker 1>for killing someone, point blank, good for killing myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>walked through the Upper Ninth and everything was weathered wood

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<v Speaker 1>and smiling people. Somewhere in the distance I heard the

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<v Speaker 1>horns and drums of a second line. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>city that knows how to celebrate death whenever. The Ghules

0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.480
<v Speaker 1>were going to catch me. When not if because I

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<v Speaker 1>was too much of a coward to hold that smith

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<v Speaker 1>and wesson to my temple. They weren't gonna kill me

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<v Speaker 1>so much as they were gonna let me die. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to their dungeons. You lived a twenty five as

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<v Speaker 1>a ghule sworn, and they tap you for work down there, sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>probably just to remind you of their power, probably just

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<v Speaker 1>to remind you to get on with dying. They were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hang me from chains, and they were gonna cut

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<v Speaker 1>me open and remove every bone from my body, one

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<v Speaker 1>by one. They were gonna crack me open to the marrow.

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<v Speaker 1>They were gonna let me watch. It wouldn't work to run.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ghules owned the legal system inside and out. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I'd turned thirty, they'd set me up as

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<v Speaker 1>convicted of every crime they'd ever got me off of.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I got popped, there'd be someone in my cell

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<v Speaker 1>willing to take a full pardon in exchange for a

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<v Speaker 1>knife in my guts. I turned the corner and saw

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<v Speaker 1>the levee all handsome and full of birds. A few

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<v Speaker 1>dogs ran off leash, while a few happy people passed

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle on the grass. My finger found the trigger,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it's bad, but I let it sit.

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<v Speaker 1>There no safety on that thing besides the hard pull

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<v Speaker 1>of a double action. I needed to die. I didn't

0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.360
<v Speaker 1>want to die. They live forever, and I was only

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<v Speaker 1>going to live a few more minutes or hours or days.

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<v Speaker 1>A seagull landed on the concrete ruin under its feet

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<v Speaker 1>in red spray paint. Someone had tagged the devil let us.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped and watched that bird, because it was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was worth the risk. After some time, it

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<v Speaker 1>flew off, and I went back to walking. Desmond lived

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<v Speaker 1>in a little fortress of an apartment in the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of a massive ruined factory, up on the fourth floor.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want a view of the water, or of

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<v Speaker 1>the city, or really just to see the sun or

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<v Speaker 1>the sky at all, you've got to leave that safety

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<v Speaker 1>and walk a few hundred yards across trash and needles

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<v Speaker 1>and rubble to look out any windows. Desmond says, the

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<v Speaker 1>privacy is worth it. Desmond is only twenty two, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's been sworn for a decade already. He's second generation.

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<v Speaker 1>His mother hanged herself when he was fourteen. I gutted

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<v Speaker 1>his father in an alley because I blamed him for

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<v Speaker 1>his mother's death. I might have been right. Ever since,

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<v Speaker 1>Desmond has been one of my best friends. He undid

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen locks and alarms in active defense systems to

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<v Speaker 1>let me into his place. At least three or four

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in stolen lab equipment was barricaded inside. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think I'd be seeing you again, he told me, from

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<v Speaker 1>where he lay on a ragged couch. His pupils had

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<v Speaker 1>eclipsed the brown of his eyes. His black skin glistened

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<v Speaker 1>with sweat. Despite the relative cool of the room. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure what he was on, But then again I

0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.880
<v Speaker 1>was never sure what he was on. A vape pen

0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.680
<v Speaker 1>dangled loose in his hand. The whole place was bathed

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<v Speaker 1>in dim lavender light. Even the dozens of led indicator

0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.919
<v Speaker 1>lights had been modified to glow pale purple. The walls

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<v Speaker 1>were wallpapered with flat screens. Most were broken. Some were

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<v Speaker 1>playing a carry Grant film. I perched on a milk

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<v Speaker 1>crate stool across from him. What do you want dead? Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't turn his face to look at me. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't hide out here. Won't work out for either of us.

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<v Speaker 1>You give a shit about danger. He took a drag

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<v Speaker 1>and let out a cloud of vapor. It smelled like jasmine.

0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Desmond scent coated his drugs. But I didn't remember there

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<v Speaker 1>being a jasmine one. I guess not, he said. His

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<v Speaker 1>hands dug into the ragged upholstery, tensing and releasing of

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<v Speaker 1>their own volition, and he gasped as something course through

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<v Speaker 1>his veins. I can give you something to get out

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<v Speaker 1>for good, he said, after his body came back under

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<v Speaker 1>his control. Painless euphorick. Even Danny took some last week,

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<v Speaker 1>said it was pleasant before she went under. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to die, I said. Life is a death sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>Not trying to die. Desmond turned his head and only

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<v Speaker 1>his head to look at me. His eyes seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>glow in the light. It's too late, dead girl, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that right. He turned back toward the ceiling. Avery

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<v Speaker 1>got out, I said. Avery was an old gender queer

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.400
<v Speaker 1>punk who haunted ghoul sworn bars talking to No One

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<v Speaker 1>two years back, twenty nine years old. They'd disappeared. I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen their grave, and I hadn't seen them in

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<v Speaker 1>the dungeons, dead in the swamps. Desmond said, Gator's got

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<v Speaker 1>to eat too. That's not what I hear, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you deal to them sometimes. I hear you

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<v Speaker 1>know where they are. He took another drag and convulsed

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<v Speaker 1>and filled the room with the scent of flowers. When

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<v Speaker 1>did you go coward? He asked? Wanting to live makes

0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.280
<v Speaker 1>me a coward. No, wanting to live makes you a hopeless,

0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:46.400
<v Speaker 1>idiotic optimist. Going to ground makes you a coward. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that or what just die?

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<v Speaker 2>Go out?

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<v Speaker 1>Like Terry Terry Williams nineteen seventy three to two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two. She'd set fire to a marine ghulhouse in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the day, then opened up on everyone

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the building with an impressive assortment of

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 1>fully automatic weapons. Terry Williams is why we know you

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>can't kill a ghoul with fire or bullets, I said.

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<v Speaker 1>She was also why we knew there were worse ways

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<v Speaker 1>to die than having your bones removed and eaten in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you. God had been satisfying, though, for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>When she thought it was gonna work, the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt them I can think of is to starve

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<v Speaker 1>them out. We all assumed they go hungry without us,

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<v Speaker 1>though there wasn't any proof. If they ain't eating you,

0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>they'll be eating somebody else. He took another hit. This

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<v Speaker 1>time the convulsions kept going for a full thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta try this, he said, offering me. The vape

0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a name yet. It's a fast acting upper

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.840
<v Speaker 1>shuts down your motor control intense while it's happening, but fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>when you come down, you come down solid, feel like yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I said, Live a little, he said, then

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:57.600
<v Speaker 1>smiled at his own joke. I'm good. Here's what you do,

0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 1>he said. I got it figured out. Let me kill you, which,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be real, you should let me do anyway, because

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<v Speaker 1>you killed my dad. Only fair. Then there's an old

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<v Speaker 1>cement mixer in here. I'll in case your body drop

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<v Speaker 1>you in the river. I get to kill you, you

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<v Speaker 1>get to die, and gules don't get to eat you.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's happy except the ghules. Fuck them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I'm like, I don't know how to do this

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<v Speaker 2>version of the podcast because I'm just loving the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, no, you can interrupt if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, Like first question, huh, are like these

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<v Speaker 2>things exist, like these death cults exist? Like these are

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<v Speaker 2>a thing?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, this is my metaphor for a lot of

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.399
<v Speaker 1>my friends in New Orleans have real hard in short lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. I was like. I was like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to reveal yet, that's great. But I'm just like, yeah, yeah,

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 2>you have single handedly introduced me to parts of the

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<v Speaker 2>world I didn't know existed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I've been pretty well traveled.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Killjoy is laid out a few things where I was like, oh, word,

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 2>that's a thing. So so I was like, maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is a thing, you know, So okay, okay, cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>A little less angsty right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, that would be even darker than the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be so dark. He's like, yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a part of one.

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<v Speaker 1>With Yeah, all right, just tell me where to find Avery.

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<v Speaker 1>You really don't want to find Avery as a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me. Just die. You don't fucking get it, I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Desmond shot upright so fast, it was like a movie

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<v Speaker 1>skipped some frames. He held a pistol aimed at me,

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<v Speaker 1>dead girl, you're the one who doesn't get it. We're friends,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, in as calm a voice as I could manage.

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<v Speaker 1>Adrenaline started my heart racing, and I knew a panic

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<v Speaker 1>attack was on its way if I lived that long.

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<v Speaker 1>We are, Desmond agreed. I'm not killing you. You killed

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a long time ago when you swore a pact

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<v Speaker 1>with demons. This is me just helping another friend not

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<v Speaker 1>make a rash decision. Shooting so some one is always

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a rash decision. The panic attack hit like a wall

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<v Speaker 1>of sound, and it made me question my resolve. Death

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>felt preferable to panic. Three, he counted. He raised the

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<v Speaker 1>gun in both hands and aimed it at my temple

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>for a man stone beyond reason. He held it steady.

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to vomit. Two I still wanted to live.

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<v Speaker 1>I tensed my legs under me. One I sprung at

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. He fired, missed. My ears rang. I shot upright,

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>closed on him, wrenched the gun from his hand, held

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it to his temple. A dead girl. We're friends, he spoke,

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>loud like he could barely hear himself, which was probably

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the case. My ears rang, Tell me where to find avery,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, just as loud. I won't tell you anything

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<v Speaker 1>when you got a gun to my head, he said,

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>matter a principle. He was right. I dropped the mag

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and cleared the chamber. He lifted his vappen and I flinched.

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 1>He took another drag, a tiny one. His hands clenched

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and unclenched. I sat next to him on the couch

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and he passed me the vape. I took a hit,

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>and my panic intensified for a second before it dropped

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>away entirely. I was as calm as I'd ever been.

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that's the way through panic, same as danger. Don't

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>hide from it, embrace it. Avery's in the swamps, Desmond said,

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>and they're not dead because they've been living off of

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the goods and services that support our podcast, including various

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>things that you can go vape. I don't know if

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:33.360
<v Speaker 1>vape sponsor us or not. If they do, don't do it. Yeah.

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>If there are drugs that are being advertised, you should

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>trust your friends about drugs more than you should trust ads.

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>These don't believe it.

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>Which is saying something because you also shouldn't trust you

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>friends about drugs.

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Your friends have no idea what they're talking about.

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that's also true. Well, here's are the rest

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of the ads and we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. This lady right was like I don't want to die. Yeah,

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>but one of the homies was like, but you promised, yeah,

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 2>And then he tried to do it, but she joked

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 2>him yep, okay, cool, I'm with it.

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then was like, go tell me where this

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>person who didn't die, Go tell me where they are at.

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Turns out they didn't die, okay, all right, yeah woo.

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<v Speaker 1>The character of a city is shaped as much by

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the wilderness around it as it is by its architecture.

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>The character of a city is shaped as much by

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>its closest wildlife as by its rulers. New Orleans is

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>as much a city of cyprus and cormorants as it

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>is of shotgun houses and ghouls. I cut through the

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>swamp and a stolen canoe, the white noise of traffic

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and people replaced by that of water and wildlife. Avery

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 1>lived in a hunting shack built on piers, disguised from

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 1>all directions by trees. I parked at their dock, climbed

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a few stairs, and knocked at their door. They answered

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 1>in aviators, A real tree punk vest and tight black pants.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>They looked exactly like I'd seen them perched at that

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>bar every night for years, except they were paler than

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I remembered, and they had a shotgun pointed at my belly.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Fuck you want Mary Walker to live? I said, go away?

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>How'd you do it? How'd you survive? I ain't survived,

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>for shit, not yet. I only got a year on you.

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>That makes you the oldest ghulsworn I've ever heard of.

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I said. They couldn't hide their pride. When I said that, look,

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>can I come in just talk to you? We can

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 1>talk out here. They stepped outside and closed the door.

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>There were no windows. We sat on the dock, feet

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>dangling over. Their fingernails and toenails were painted the blue

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>of dead flesh. They spent a good moment lost in thought.

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can help each other. They said, we'd never

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>been friendly. Avery and I. Avery hadn't any friends as

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>long as I'd known them. Rumors said they lost most

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>of theirs in a gang fight and never bothered finding

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 1>new ones. So why the swamps? You know they're afraid

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of water. What I've spent the last two years studying

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the fucking things learned an awful lot. They need sunlight

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to function. They're not just cold blooded, they're unblooded. They're

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>afraid of water, not because they'd drowned they can't, but

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>because they'd run out of energy down there where the

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>sun can't reach. It's over for them. Torpor forever. You're

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>in the swamps, because if you see them coming, you

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>sink their boats. Bingo. That's it. Then just hide in

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the swamps by yourself, only come out at night. Let

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>me tell you how to stay alive, Mary Walker. You

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>cling to life. You claw at it until your fingers bleed.

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>You tell yourself every time you take a breath that

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>you're going to live to take another one, that you

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>will live forever, no matter what it takes, no matter

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.360
<v Speaker 1>how much it hurts, no matter how much you hurt

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>anyone else. You sound like a ghoul in the distance.

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Some animal called out like a human, quietly screaming. They

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>weren't always ghules. They became ghules, each of them individually.

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>How I asked, you know how the marrow of the

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>gul sworn. There's more to it than that, but it's

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>mostly the marrow of the ghul sworn. All the gulls

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>were once ghul sworn, how can that work? I don't know,

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Avery said, it's the chicken in the egg. Chickens though

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>they eat eggs. Avery was going to try and kill me.

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>They were going to try to eat my bones. I

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>put my hands in the pocket of my hoodie and

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>felt the revolver. I've told you how I survived. Avery said.

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Their shotgun was in their lap, and they rested their

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>hand on the grip. Now you can help me. For

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a half second, I considered waiting for them to move

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to prove their intentions.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I drew the revolver, held it to their throat, and

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.239
<v Speaker 1>pulled the trigger. The wind caught the mist of the

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>blood and brought it to my face. I couldn't hear

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>anything in the wake of the blast. Their eyes drew

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>open wide, and they started to lift the shotgun because

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know they were dead already. None of us

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>know when we're dead already. I stood up and kicked

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>them into the water, and they sank. You were right,

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I told Desmond, it's usually best to lead with the apology.

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>You want me to put you down. We sat on

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the roof of his squatted factory. The moon was waning

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>in the sky above us. I couldn't see many stars,

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>not as many as I'd seen paddling out from the

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>swamp with a stack of Avery's notebooks piled in the canoe.

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>But the lights of the city are stars of their own.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Each one holds a mystery and the promise of life. No,

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.479
<v Speaker 1>not that part, I said. You were right about not

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>clinging to life so desperately. That's the ghoul's life. I'd

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>rather I wasn't caught up in any of the shit

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.239
<v Speaker 1>at all. Sure, but I'd still rather be ghulesworn than

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>be a ghoul. That's my dead girl, Desmond said. He

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>took a drag from his pen. The air smelled like rose.

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>What's that one, I asked, Basically, just speed, he said,

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>has a worse come down than speed, though I'm still

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>working on it. You want to hit you're not selling

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it well, So what's the plan If you're not gonna

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>let me kill you? But you're supposedly not afraid of

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>death anymore. Let's kill ghules, I said, How the fuck

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>do you kill ghoules? You got a cement mixer, right, Yeah,

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not me. We're going to drop into the river,

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I said. I like the way you think, dead girl,

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>stop calling me dead girl. I'll stop calling you that

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're dead, which sounds like it'll be tomorrow. Yeah,

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that's about my guess. If we're dead tomorrow, want to

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>get wrecked tonight? I took one long last look at

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the stars of the city. Yeah, I said, yeah, I do.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's the story.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Dude. I used to think this this might be just

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 2>me being basic that I was like, I don't understand

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 2>how a book can scare you, you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like I don't get it, but yo, you

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>had me in.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, thank you.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Where does this stuff come from? Man? Like, yo, like,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>give me some game. What are we doing? Kill joy? Yeah?

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, So this story, more than anything else, it

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>comes from, like I think a lot of subcultures, like

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like Punkstone, assume they're going to live to be very old, right,

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>very true, And so you have this thing where you're like,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you hit thirty and then you're like, oh that's cool

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>now what you know?

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and actually that's when life gets more interesting

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and harder because you actually have to like succeed at

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff and get things done and help people and yeah,

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, but but you don't like know that, Like

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that when I was like riding trains

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>in my twenties and shit.

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's kind of the same with like kind

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 2>of like just like street life when you're like like

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>most most guys, Like even talking to one of my

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>close friends, he was like, I didn't think I was

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 2>going to live past twenty five. I was like, and

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>if I would, it'd be in jail. So like, I didn't.

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have any plans after this, you know, it

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I should get married, man, yeah, have kids,

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 2>but like, I don't know, I have no plans after this,

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't. I didn't think i'd make it.

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah exactly, Like oh I should get my teeth fixed.

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I like, yeah, oh I didn't. Like I didn't think

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I needed those, you know, I work out.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Be healthy, Like yeah, it's happening right now.

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah exactly. And a bunch of people I know

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have died in New Orleans. And the worst of it

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.959
<v Speaker 1>was that a friend of mine named Flee was just

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>shot kind of randomly, and and at his funeral, everyone

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>like celebrated in the squat and then slept there. And

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>then the squat burned down and like, I think seven

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>people died gosh, and it was just like and I

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't know. I only knew the person whose funeral it was,

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't at the funeral. I didn't know the

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>people who died afterwards. But it was just such a like, oh, yeah,

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>like this shit's hard. Yeah yeah, oh man, and so

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, no, this is my this is my my

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 1>grand metaphor for how a lot of people don't think

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>they're going to live to be old.

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 2>H Yeah, that's okay, man, that's powerful. Thank you, thanks Magpie.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm going to read you another story from the

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.959
<v Speaker 1>same book, but I'm going to read it to you. Well,

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>i'll read it to you in a couple of minutes,

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>but I'll read it to everyone else because of the

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>magic of time, it'll be different time.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>But if folks want to check out more of what

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you do, how can they do that?

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Prop hip hop dot com has all the things.

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.719
<v Speaker 2>The politics will Prop is the podcast, and it's been

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>quite spicy, and I've had to really work hard to

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>make it real spicy, giving how boring the political landscape

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 2>is these days. So, oh, what do you think is

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>going to happen.

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Wait can I actually wait? So when is this going

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to come out? Before the election? Yeah, before the election.

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>What do you think is going to happen? Not like

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:03.959
<v Speaker 1>necessarily who do you think is gonna win? But like,

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:08.240
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is going to happen? Yeah, closer landslide?

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Closer landslide.

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 2>My my thought is it'll be not a landside, but

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 2>not as close as we think it's gonna be. And

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I think, no matter what, our holidays will be full

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of protests and riots. Yeah, Like I just think that, Yeah,

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 2>the holidays are they're just gonna suck this year, and

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 2>it's just there's going to be chaos and pending doom,

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 2>yeah for most of November and December, and no matter what.

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the wildest part is that, Yeah, you're like, yeah,

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>no matter which one of them wins, it's just yeah,

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna be real mad and people aren't gonna

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>believe it.

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 2>And yeah yeah, and uh I wish it would be

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>like somebody just gets a whiff of like, you know,

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>smelling sense and they're just like whoa, yeah what happened? Man? Like, yeah, dude,

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I had this horrible dream, you know, like this you know,

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>be rad if that went down.

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't remember when like the old Republican Party

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>was the normal enemy that we were all used to.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're just yeah, like they're just so quaint now when.

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>They say cuddly, you know. Yeah, yeah, but they had

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to pretend they weren't racist in public, at least at

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>least they.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Was at least yeah, yeah, they pretended they weren't racist,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and their racism was a type of racism that I

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 2>could at least comprehend. Yeah, like you know, like, oh

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I comprehend your type of racist. Yeah, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't you know what I'm around your kids? Yeah, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say actually again for that's just I really

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<v Speaker 1>like props podcast that's probably come across, But like you

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<v Speaker 1>do a really good job of presenting different people's perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on something.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was listening to one you did recently

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<v Speaker 1>where it was about this. I actually don't remember the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the episode, but you were just like you're

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<v Speaker 1>being like, this is what they think they're doing when

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<v Speaker 1>they say we hate gay people, or this is what

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<v Speaker 1>they say they think they're doing. You did a really

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<v Speaker 1>a job of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Like I really pride myself in that, like like

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<v Speaker 2>again being vulnerable, Like I I'm as a in my

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<v Speaker 2>own way, a storyteller, Like you have to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to articulate multiple perspectives in multiple and that means getting

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<v Speaker 2>in those shoes understanding at least, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>and then to me, the proof of understanding is being

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<v Speaker 2>able to say it back, you know. So like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the jd vance phenomenon. I'm like, obviously I feel

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<v Speaker 2>the same way you do, where I'm just like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a douchebag frat boy like that, you know. And and

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<v Speaker 2>he's not even like a cool one. Yeah, Sometimes douchebag

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<v Speaker 2>frat boys you could be like they're kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, drink, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Still he's still kind of fun, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, but this dude, I'm like, but I get why

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<v Speaker 3>y'all like him, you know, I get why you chose him,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And he's doing the thing like and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I see why this resonates, Like because you feel about this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Now, I don't understand why you fall in

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<v Speaker 3>for it. Yeah, but yeah, I understand why you like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So that's something that like I try to I

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<v Speaker 2>try my best to be able to say you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, and it's it's good and honestly like not

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<v Speaker 1>enough of what not enough of what I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>does that and does it well?

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<v Speaker 2>And so dude, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyone who's listening, go check out hood politics. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So at least you could tell your your uncle Dave, like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, you're dead wrong, Yeah, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, we will see you all on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh, if you're anywhere on the let's see by

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<v Speaker 1>the time this comes out, I will be speaking in

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<v Speaker 1>Portland in a couple of days on November first with

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Evans at Powell's and then I don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my tour dates lined up yet, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will be going through California and then through the South

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<v Speaker 1>and then up through like probably Tennessee, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you should check out my substack or my Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be posting those dates and or saying them on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Want to get them figured out, and we'll

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