1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. As we are 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: coming to you from Indianapolis, the NFL Scouting Combine. Mark 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Vandermer and John Harris with you from the Indiana Convention Center. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: It's connected to Lucas Oil Stadium. It's connected to a 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: lot of things. This whole city is connected. Yes, and 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: we are connected to Nick Kassario, who you will hear 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: from in just a few moments here, the general manager 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: of your Texans. But Johnny takeaways from the day at 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: the combine. The players haven't done their thing yet. We've 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: seen them around a little bit here and there, but 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna get rolling into the next few days. Yeah. 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: We in fact took a walk around probably a couple 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: of hours ago. As we were walking around looking for 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: some water. We were walking over to the there's two 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: different rooms that writers and our radio row are in, 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: and so we were going to the writer's room against 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: water and snacks and such, and we walked by and 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: saw a couple of players that were in the corridor 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: kind of working on getting stretched, staying loose. They're gonna 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: have their testing. I think the first bench press is 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: gonna be Thursday at about ten o'clock so that's gonna 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: start with tight ends and wide receivers and quarterbacks. I'll 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: be interested Mark to see how much testing guys do. 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: We've already seen Derek Stingley not gonna test. Matt Carrel's 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: not gonna throw quarterback from a miss. Derek Stingley the 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: corner from LSU Evan Neil, I don't believe it's gonna 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: work out. And then I saw where Evan Neil said, 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was a long season, and I thought, yeah, 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: you know what, He's right. They played their championship game 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: actually here in Indy and he's here, you know, not 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: even not even two months later, So recovering from a 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: fourteen game, fifteen game season or whatever it was at Alabama. Yeah, 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: those sixteen game season coming in, and I have no 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: problem with him not doing right. Stingley's injured, he's still 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: rehabing an injury. I can understand that. And Carrel got 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: injured in the last Bowl game, so I can understand 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: those guys. But there was so much talk about the 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: boycott and what was going to happen with that. I'm 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: curious to see how many guys will decide to test 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: at their pro day. I hope not too many of 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: them do. Because of this at least provides for a 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: good basis of comparison. They're all run the forties at 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the same spot, they're all doing the three cone at 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: the same spot. They're all doing a bench on the 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: same bench. So it just it just helps to have 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: all that testing consistent. But either way, it's just great 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: to be back. I mean, two years it's taken since. 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean I just sit at these tables and I 49 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: just remember sitting here in March of twenty twenty and 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: doing our interviews and then hearing about this thing COVID, 51 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: Like I've heard about this thing COVID man, I think 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: that's gonna hit us. And then two weeks later the 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: world shuts down, and obviously things change for us as 54 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Texans employees, Texans fans a few a few days later 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: with the hop trade and how things have changed since. 56 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: But hopefully we're getting back on track and having Nick tonight. 57 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: It's a great stepan right direction. We'll have Love You 58 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: Smith tomorrow, which will be fun. Yeah. Lovey Smith will 59 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: be on with us tomorrow and earlier in the day 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow around two thirty Central is it two thirty Central? 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Or two. It's around one thirty central, one two thirty 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Eastern boy Indianapolis. Look, it's only one hour, but they 63 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: don't change in the summer. They don't change their clocks, 64 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: all right, so don't they don't change it, all right? Right, right, right, 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: So when we're here in the fall, before daylight savings 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: kicks in or kicks out or whatever, we're on the 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: same time and then now it's different, so you got 68 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: to get used to that. Anyway, Tomorrow one thirty Central, 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Levey Smith and you and I'll be live introducing that 70 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: on the various Texans platforms, Facebook, Twitter, etc. The Texans app, 71 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: and then we'll have him on Texans All Access twenty 72 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: four hours from now. Well, right now, the general manager 73 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: of your Texans, Nick Cassio, and we'll begin the conversation 74 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: with Hey, this is the first time he's been the 75 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: GM of the Texans at the combine, since there was 76 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: none last year. Yeah, I'd say process is pretty similar. 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: It's really an opportunity to kind of gather information, you know, 78 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: meet with the players kind of when I'm one on 79 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: one basis, kind of on a personal level, it'd say 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: the biggest thing or the underclassman discussions because it's really 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: the first opportunity you have to kind of talk face 82 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: to face with them. So m you know, old habits 83 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: die hard, so as soon as you show up here, 84 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: you kind of are back in swing of things. So 85 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: it's been good. Nick, We've kind of banded this question 86 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: about too many people. If the combine moves from Indianapolis, 87 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: what's lost? I mean, do you like having it in 88 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Indianapolis or I mean if it does move, what's lost 89 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: by doing so? Yeah, I think the consistency that we're 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: all accustomed to in the city of in Minneapolis. I mean, 91 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: Indianapolis is a great host. You have a lot of 92 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: recent in the way it's set up between the convention center, 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: between the dome, the access to the medical facilities, and 94 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: the hotel locations. I mean, everything is sort of centrally located, 95 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: and logistically it's very easy to kind of move around. 96 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: I think Jeff Foster has done a phenomenal job here 97 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: through the years. Have a lot of respect for what 98 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: he's done and kind of developing and evolving. Any end, 99 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: whatever the decision has made, you know, then will adjust accordingly. 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: I think all of us have kind of learned to adjust. 101 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: But I would say personally, you know, I would love 102 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: to see it continue Indianapolis because I think there's a 103 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: lot of benefit to be in here. Nick, what about 104 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: the interviews, What can you tell us about what takes 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: place in an interview, what you get out of it 106 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: when you're evaluating. Yeah, no, it's a great question. Eventually 107 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: you try to steer it to as much football as possible. 108 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: So a lot of the background that you've accumulated, you've 109 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: received from the school about their personal situation, maybe their background, 110 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: maybe their family situation, you know, some of the things 111 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: from a football perspective, how they're coached, how they were, 112 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: how they practice, some of their habits. So you have 113 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: that information kind of you know, backlog here in inventory. 114 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: So unless there's sun specific maybe had an issue pop up, 115 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: or maybe has an injury history, or they had a 116 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: discipline issue, you might want to ask them about that 117 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: and see it kind of how they respond to that, 118 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: and then eventually you want to steer it towards football, 119 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: and what you're trying to do is, again, what do 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: these players know? What are they being coached to do? 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: And realizing everybody's baseline is a little bit different. So 122 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: when you're just watching a player, and John can probably 123 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: attest to this, you don't really know what they're being 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: asked to do. You see what they're doing on the 125 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: field and how they're playing, but what are they being 126 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: coached to do? What are they beings to do? How 127 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: are they being coached to do. Maybe they're not worried 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: about an adjustment on this route, or they're not worried 129 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: about understanding what's going on the other side of the ball. 130 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: That's okay. So you just have to have an understanding 131 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: of where the player is and just in terms of 132 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: their overall growth and development NI because it pertains the interviews. 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: You get forty five here and then you get as 134 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: we call him on campus visits. Will you double up 135 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: interviews or where you feel like we interviewed him here, 136 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: we've got to spread the wealth or is that just 137 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: kind of a case by case basis As you look 138 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: at that, it's probably a case by case. But you're 139 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: not going to make a decision based probably off of 140 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: just the twenty men the interaction unless the player is 141 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: absolutely clean. So he's blue chip, he's clean, he has 142 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: all the traits that you want. You're not going to 143 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: find anything new in your building, that you found out here, 144 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: that you found out from the school. So we walk out, Okay, 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: this is everything that we want in our program. Okay, 146 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: we bring him in the building. Okay, we're not gonna 147 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: find out anything different. There might be some things we 148 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: want to do, try to simulate, like what's it like 149 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: in our building on a day to day basis, who 150 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: they're going to be coached by, what's the you know, 151 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: maybe you go through an installation or something like that. 152 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: So there's certainly things you can still simulate, but again 153 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: it's case by case and trying to figure out, like 154 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: what do we need. There's probably gonna be different buggets 155 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: that bucketscuse me, that you put these players into. Whether 156 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: it's mental, whether it's injury, whether it's you know, and 157 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: like whatever else there might be. So just have to 158 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: figure out what bucket that players in and whether or 159 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: not you need more information before you make your decision. 160 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: What about watching them interact with each other on the 161 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: field while they're in their groups getting ready to do 162 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: their drills and everything. It's not a true team environment, 163 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: but it's sort of a team for a few days 164 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: if you will. It is they're around each other for 165 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: four or five days, and there's relationships that are probably developed. 166 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: You know, have some teammates that have played together, so 167 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: maybe this environment is a little bit different. They're kind 168 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: of away from their campus, away from their school, or 169 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: they've seen another player from Afar, I mean a god 170 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: from Georgia, you know, with a player from Ohio State. 171 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a mutual respect and understanding. So like they're 172 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: all trying to learn from each other. Maybe there's something 173 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: they can pick up from watching somebody else. So let's 174 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: say those interact You can really gain a lot from 175 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: just watching and observing and just to seeing, you know, 176 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: what interactions look like. Maybe one is a little bit 177 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: more assertive and a little bit more I would say 178 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: open to a leadership rule, takes a little bit more ownership. 179 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: One's maybe a little bit more reserved, kind of worried 180 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: about himself. Doesn't mean it's right or wrong. It's just 181 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: different personalities start to take shape, and ultimately they're going 182 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: to be potentially they could be teammates here on their 183 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: next team. Nick, we take all the workout stuff with 184 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: a grain of salt. That's something we've been talking taking about. Look, 185 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: he ran a forty it's great, fantastic. Any drill that 186 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: you look at it and go, this one's important. I 187 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: don't know. The port is maybe not the right word, 188 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: but is there anyone that you look at a little 189 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: bit closer than any of the others. That's a really 190 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: good question. That they certain drills are more applicable than others, 191 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: and I think they even the combine has kind of 192 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: chain some of the drills specific to different groups. The 193 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: one drill which you can see kind of on both 194 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, so it's the skill players offensively 195 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: and the skill players defensively is the gauntlet's rule. Because 196 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: they're running full speed, their ability to catch the ball, 197 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: adjust to the ball, Can they keep stride their hand 198 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: eye coordination. That's a really good drill, so to catch 199 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: and tuck component, catch it, put it away, turning it 200 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: up the field. Do they have to slow down? Because 201 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: you can kind of gauge their comfort level, you can 202 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: improve catching the football. What's harder to I would say 203 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: correct or improve for a defense and back is maybe 204 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: his ability to turn find the ball down the field. 205 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: But that the gauntlet drills a really good drill because 206 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: it simulates catching and running through traffic at a high speed, 207 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: which is going to happen on a field on Sunday, 208 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: And those passes have to be thrown very crisply and 209 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: on time, right they do. I actually throw some of 210 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: those passes back in the day, so it's been a 211 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: long time, but all right, So the forty, I'm obsessed 212 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: with this, with the corners and the receivers, the speed guys. 213 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: I always thought it should be its own event in 214 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: prime time and have the lights and everything. That'd be 215 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: fun for the fans. But Nick tell me the difference 216 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: between how you value a forty time and football speed 217 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: and the importance of such. No, you have to look 218 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: at those things and there's a lot of dat and 219 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of measurements that you can take. So you 220 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: think a guy is fast, you're watching, I think he's fast. Okay, 221 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: Then he runs fast, okay, the players fast. You're watching 222 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: another player, I'm not sure how fast he is. Okay, 223 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: he runs fast, Okay, So where's the delta? What's the difference? 224 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: So one, this is not a knock on the players, 225 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: but they spend a lot of time training for these drills, 226 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: training for this forty. You can improve your forty speed 227 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: and your forty time so ultimately, whatever his time is, 228 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: does a player play to that speed or does he 229 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: not play to that speed? Because football speed is football speed, 230 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: and a number of times on a football field where 231 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: a guy is actually going to have to run forty yards, 232 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: it's a pretty small percentage. So one of my point 233 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: of contentions on the offensive lineman has always been why 234 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: they run at forty I have no idea because there 235 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: really it's a true measurement for them is ten to 236 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: twenty somewhere in that range because that they're moving in 237 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: a shorter area. So how much force speed? You know, 238 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: can they exert in a short area with a number 239 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: of force because they're gonna have to push and pull 240 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: and try to move somebody. So it's not about how 241 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: fast they're running, it's about how quickly they can displace 242 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: the guy across with them. So speed is speed. Is 243 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: a fast guy fast? Or does a guy you're not 244 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: sure how fast he is, does he run fast? Okay, 245 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: then we have to kind of be able to fill 246 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: the gap here a little bit. It happens all the time. 247 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: Guy runs for three. There's no way in hell he 248 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: thought he's gonna run four three. You watch him play 249 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: and he's four five. Yeah, okay, so what does that mean? So, 250 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: because again, to just go from a stance and run 251 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: straight ahead forty yards, the amount of times it actually 252 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: happens is minimal. Yeah. As you guys are sitting there 253 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: watching forties, I said, you guys, I mean scouts and 254 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: the people that have watched these players all year. Guys 255 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: at the liner, you guys going, he's for six, No, no, no, 256 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: he's for five. Are you guys started taking side bets 257 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: to see who's gonna run? Well, he's gonna run. And 258 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I think the ones that are really good don't even 259 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: need to clock the watch a guy run and go 260 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: all right, and then he's like he ran a Ford 261 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: five two or something like that, and it comes out 262 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, all right, there we go. Nick. 263 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: One of the signings you made just a couple of 264 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: days ago is somebody that we talk about on the air, 265 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: but we don't talk about in a sense that he's 266 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: really to play because it's really never been a negative play. 267 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: And that's Jot Weeks. How important is it to bring 268 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: Weeks he back? Yeah? John's been a stalwart from his 269 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: program for a number of years. You guys have been 270 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: around him more than I have, but very professional, a 271 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: lot of very well respected on a team has been 272 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: in one place for a long period of time. I 273 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: think he certainly made some improvements from twenty to twenty 274 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one, just in terms of some of 275 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: the things that we asked him to do from a 276 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: coverage standpoint, made a number of tackles on punk coverage. 277 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: And you can't be good in the kicking game unless 278 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: you have good specialists. So I would say the relationship 279 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: between John, cam and Kai that's an important relationship. They're 280 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: all pros, they all work well together, they're all coachable, 281 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: and they're looking for ways to improve and John certainly 282 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: falls into that category. So excited to have John back 283 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: and look forward to him to continue to grow and 284 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: improve and the things that he did last season. It's 285 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: an interesting job because you could have a great door, 286 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: but if you don't have a good hinge, it doesn't 287 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: mean anything. Right, he's the hinge. He's that maybe a 288 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: smaller link in the whole thing, but if he doesn't 289 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: do his job well, disaster as things could happen. Absolutely so, 290 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: whether you're covering a punt you know, or the timing 291 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: on the punt like that's important, extra point field goal, 292 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: like those mechanics that are involved and that I would 293 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: say flow and working relationship between that group is it's 294 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: pretty important. So we see guys in training camp try 295 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: to long snap right and how off are they from 296 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: Weeks's time to get the ball to the putter or 297 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: the putter is the most important thing. Yeah, the placement 298 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: is really the biggest thing. Okay, there's guys that can 299 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: put it back there with pace, but it's the actual placement, 300 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, for whether it's the holder on the field 301 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: goals and extra points or whether it's the punter because 302 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: it excuse me, there's a timing element involved from the 303 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: putter in terms of catch, in terms of the placement, 304 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: terms of his depth. Does he come off the spot, 305 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: So it's I don't gonna say it goes it's it's 306 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: really important, and when it becomes more magnified is when 307 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't go well, and that can lead to disaster. Yeah, Weeks, 308 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: he's pretty accurate. I know because he's buzzed the tower 309 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: on me when I've gotten too close in the sidelines 310 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: when he's practicing snaps. The very first game I ever did, 311 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: he got that close to me. It was just to 312 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: send a message. So the accuracy part is no doubt. 313 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: How Nick, how far or how long does it take 314 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: you walking out the hall here at to combine before 315 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: somebody's grabbing your shoulder and saying, hey, have I told 316 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: you about my particular client agents grabbing you? People grabbing you? Hey, 317 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: let me tell you about this guy? How long? How 318 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: often is that happening to you while you're hearing Indie? 319 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: Not as often as you might think. I think what 320 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: I try to do is you have certain relationships with 321 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: agents that you've kind of cultivated through the years, and 322 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: you know you certainly want to have a dialogue with them. 323 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: I would say, personally, I'm not a big like have 324 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: fifty meetings with agents and kind of go through their list, 325 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: Like we know who their list is. I know who 326 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: their list is. I have a document that's organized by 327 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: agency group. So and you're not going to be interested 328 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: in every player, but there's certain groups there. Certain maybe 329 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: that person has a high volume of players. Maybe you 330 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: want to go through to kind of get a sense 331 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: of all, right, what are you hearing? What do you think? 332 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: What are you looking for? Okay, God, you know, well, 333 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: maybe we weren't in that player thought we would be, 334 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: but you know what, he might be out of our 335 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: range or are not going to be at that level. Okay, 336 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: eliminate him and go to the next guy. So I 337 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,119 Speaker 1: think that's the benefit maybe of some of those interactions 338 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: and discussions. Yeah, because the social aspect is big here 339 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: as well, Right, everybody getting together. Now, another related question, 340 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: how far can you get down the hallway without bumping 341 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: into somebody you know from the past, because it's less 342 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: than one degree of separation between everybody in this league, 343 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: especially when you're in this town at this time. Yeah, 344 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: they're not all here just yet. And sometimes my route 345 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: is a little bit more securious, you know, your way. 346 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: I try to stay out of harm's way. But it's 347 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: always good to kind of see people that you're familiar 348 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: with and sort of reconnect. So it's going to come 349 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: at different points, so but always excited the opportunity to 350 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: kind of see folks that you know you've had relationships with. Well, 351 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: you did a little media tour and you are on 352 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: with Pat Kerwin and Jim Miller, so you have a 353 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: history with Jim, right with the Patriots, that's right, that's right. Yeah, 354 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: one year or I think it was one year. Yeah, 355 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: he was our backup quarterback or was in the quarterback room, 356 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, the one year so Jim Chris him, you know, 357 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: work in our scouting department for a year before he 358 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: became a big media star, big media star. Markot's over 359 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: there laughing at that, because every time I go to 360 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: tell Stray Marcott's listening to Chris Simms, I'm like, man, 361 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: turn Chris off, so we know, we know where you 362 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: got it. Front now, rich Eyes in every single combine 363 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: he goes and he runs a forty and he does 364 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: it for charity. It's a great event. It's a great cause. 365 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: If you had to run a forty, what would you run? 366 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Right now? Could I be a five flat? I hope. 367 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty good, though, I mean, I don't know. 368 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm not running a forty anymore. M peloton versus climber 369 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: to some other aerobic activity, but I'm not running a forty. 370 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Those days are over. You're not the only one, my friend. 371 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: All right, A couple more for you. Lovey Smith will 372 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: meet with the media Wednesday, so tell us about your 373 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: relationship with Lovey. So far as you guys have been 374 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: working on this offseason, getting the Texans better for twenty 375 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: twenty two. Yeah. Love, He's very open minded. He has 376 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: a philosophy in the certain way that he wants to 377 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: do things, Like he's spent a lot of time on 378 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: the schedule, kind of planning out the spring and even 379 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: kind of going into training camp, So everybody kind of 380 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 1: has an understanding of kind of the things that we 381 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: want to do, so spend a lot of time on that. 382 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: And then we've spent time talking about our players and 383 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: I've all always update him on some situations differences the way, 384 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: Hey we're having a discussion with this player, you know, 385 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: and just trying to prioritize the players that you know, 386 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: we want to bring back or are trying to bring back, 387 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: and just make sure like we're bringing the player back 388 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: because there's mutual interest. It's not well, I want to 389 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: bring the player back and you know, we're not sure 390 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: we are from the staff standpoint, because that's going to 391 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: be counterproductive. But I would say he's very open minded, 392 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: he's definitely flexible. He's got a great way about him. 393 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: So the communication has been has been really good at 394 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: this point. So excited to be able to work with him. 395 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: And the staff that we have in place, and hopefully 396 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: we can just mix some progress and start building a 397 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: team out here as we go over the next couple 398 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: of weeks. Excellent, Nick, thanks so much for joining us. 399 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, appreciate it. There's GM Nick Kissario. Johnny takeaways 400 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: from the conversation with the GM. Hey, I think he 401 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: likes coming on with us. Like you can tell, he's 402 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: very cold. That's the most important thing. He likes. Laughing joke. 403 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: But the one thing that always He said this the 404 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: other day to us, and he reiterated what this is 405 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: about it and it said about information. I think there's 406 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: also a word. And it's funny because because Belichick is 407 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: the one that I actually think about this. Belichick's famous 408 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: for saying, do your job, do your job, and he's 409 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: reminded people over the years that there's a word missing, 410 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: and it's do your job well ye which, oh okay. 411 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Nick's talking about information. The one word he didn't say, 412 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: but he knows in the back of his mind is 413 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: trusted information. Because you're gonna get a lot of information, 414 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: but what's important to you is the information that you 415 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: can trust coming from the right agents or agents. You're 416 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: familiar with people that you're familiar with. And I think 417 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: the other thing we've talked about this a little bit 418 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: is we look around this room and the radio row 419 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: that we're in. I mean, obviously are our group is here, 420 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: but you look with the different teams and you're like, oh, 421 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: I know that guy, or I know that guy all right. 422 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: You know Max Starks was over behind me today who 423 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: had played for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I coached against him 424 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: when he was at Lake Highland Prep and Orlando, and 425 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: we spent twenty minutes talking about those days and growing up. 426 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: And I find out he's cousins with our good friend 427 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: trap Jay Travis Johnson had no idea, and so you 428 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: start finding out the connections to people. You have my 429 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: buddy Brent Martineau from Jacksonville as to our right. So 430 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: you just have this connection with everybody. And then you've 431 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: got Nick Cassario, who did an interview with Chris Sims. Well, 432 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: Chris Sims was scouting assistant for the Patriots. He did 433 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: an interview with Jim Miller and Pat Herwin I acted 434 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: Serious X and Radio and Jim spent a year with 435 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: the Patriots as a backup quarterback. Used to sit behind 436 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: Nick on the bus and you realize, man, he's been 437 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: in the league. Not as a gym but he's been 438 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: in the league for twenty plus years. His tentacles just 439 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: reached everywhere. It's just kind of amazing how many people 440 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: we know. And then you go to his side of it, 441 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, man, he knows a lot of people, 442 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: which to my point is those people all provide some 443 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: sort of information and it's sifting through it all to 444 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: find the information you trust and that you can then 445 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: rely on. It's a strange phenomena here because you run 446 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: into so many people and I don't mean to name drop, 447 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: but I will. Yeah, it's cool you run into so 448 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: many people. I ran into Brian Gaine, of course, former 449 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: Texas general manager, that was on the way here, because 450 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: a lot of people connect through Houston on the way here. 451 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: Andy Bischoff, former Texas tight ends coach from last year, 452 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: is now with the Giants. Yeah, now with the former 453 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: University of Houston cougar. Thomas McGahee, who's the special team's 454 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: coach for the Giants buddy of mine. I played summer 455 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: basketball with him way way back in the day, so 456 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: I've known him forever. He was on a plane with us, 457 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: so good friend of Andres as well. Absolutely. Yeah, So 458 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: you're run into people all the time. That was just 459 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: getting started. Charles London we saw yesterday, so and we're 460 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: just getting started here. We're gonna see a whole lot 461 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: more people as the week goes on. And as we said, 462 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: as Nick said, hey, it hasn't really started yet. I 463 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: mean for us, it feels like it starts, because for us, 464 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: it's a media convention as much as anything else, because 465 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: you're reconnecting with a lot of people from their markets 466 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: and you want to get to know what's going on 467 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: with them. Now, we're about to have a guest on 468 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: the show that is really interesting and he's not exactly 469 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: a household name in Houston, but he's dealt with so 470 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: many household names in sports, Nelson Luise. This is interesting. Yeah. 471 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: He was the Rockets director of media relations when Yao 472 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: came in Emma Grady of course until what through the 473 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen he was there for on our test coming, 474 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: that big Big three coming together. Yeah, and the and 475 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: the Rockets finally getting off the schneid and winning a 476 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: playoff series for the first time in a long time, 477 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: when our testing company got it done with Yeah, but 478 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: then Yaw gets hurt and round two. He was with 479 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour when Tiger was getting super hot in 480 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: the late nineties and two thousand. He's now with the 481 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, coming out the Super Bowl Championship from 482 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: a year ago. So let's catch up with Nelson next 483 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: about Houston sports history, what's going on in Tampa, his 484 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: perspective on things, really interesting stuff on the way here 485 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: on Texans Radio at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. 486 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you now for a guest. 487 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: You don't know him well, but you know his work. Well, 488 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: let's just put it that way. He's the former director 489 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: of media relations for the Houston Rockets and was there 490 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: when the Texans got started. He's now vice president of 491 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: Communications for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's also been in 492 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: the PGA. He was with the Bucks before that in 493 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: the nineties. He's worked with Lovey Smith. We got a 494 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: lot to go over with Nelson, Louise and Nelson. Quite 495 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: a journey it's been in your sports career. Yeah, absolutely, 496 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's been a pretty cool, uh sports existence 497 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: for me in terms of starting you know, I was 498 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: born and raised in Tampa, So for me, the Buccaneers, 499 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: with the team that I grew up watching, it was 500 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: also going to be able to get a job coming 501 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: right out of college. I went right from an internship 502 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: into the you know, into full time position Withers and 503 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: then had a great opportunity to be out there on 504 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: the PGA tour as a media official for two and 505 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: a half years before the Rockets opportunity came up. And 506 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: then that was twelve years of my life, first time, 507 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, being in charge of a department and getting 508 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: there at a very unique time. I would say, in 509 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: Houston sports, dealing with Houston media, how tough is it? Actually, no, no, 510 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: don't answer that question because I want him to answer 511 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: in question. I'm going to give you the politically correct answer. Yeah, 512 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: you guys are great. The media was fantastic. I know 513 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: they're all but during that time, I mean, the Rockets 514 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: going through transition phase at times. But YAO comes to 515 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: the Rockets, what was that like because it was more 516 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: than just Houston media at that time, Because I know 517 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: I moved to Houston in two thousand and seven. I 518 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: remember the first time we went up to a game, 519 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: and the first time I'm up at a game, there 520 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: were like seven seats devoted to Asian media and there 521 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: was like one for us, And I was like, no, 522 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: so why do we only get one seat? What was 523 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: that like? Having Yao there and having to deal with 524 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: the number of media requests and things of that magnitude. 525 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: It was an amazing experience for me. As I said earlier, 526 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I was joining the Rockets at 527 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: a time where at the you know, the time they 528 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: were a team, they were in transition after the you know, 529 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: Hakim malajuan Era and Steve Francis, and so I get there. 530 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: I think we lost I don't know, fifteen or eighteen 531 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: games in a row. It was a it was a 532 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: horrible stretch there my first year that got us the 533 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: opportunity yet pretty pretty slim odds still to get the 534 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. But when we grab you know, 535 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: when we got that that lottery balls, those lottery balls together, uh, 536 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: it was it was life changing for me because all 537 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I went from just you know, okay, 538 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go run my department for the first time 539 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: ever two, I am thrust in the middle of an 540 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: international story and it was white hot. It was white hot. 541 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: There was so much interest, uh, you know, CNN on 542 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: a daily base, just every major outlet. Uh. Every step 543 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: that he took was chronicled. Uh. And there was so 544 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: many sort of you know areas that we had to 545 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: be very careful with, uh, just because of the sensitivities involved. Um. 546 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: He was, you know, unbelievable to work with. So it 547 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: was it was an and the privilege to work with him. 548 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about my time with him. He 549 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: was one of my absolute favorite people that I've ever 550 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: worked with. Former Rockets director of Media Relations Nelson Louise 551 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: and current Tampa Bay Buccaneers Vice president of Communications with us. 552 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: All Right, so I can identify with Yao in this way, Johnny. 553 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: Not that I'm always gonna make it about me, but 554 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: you know I will, well, because I started in Houston 555 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: around the same time, right when you got that number 556 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: one pick in the draft, and I seldom have rooted 557 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: for a player so hard as I did for Yawming. 558 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: I wanted him to be successful in those early days. 559 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: It was a little clunky right in the very beginning, 560 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: but there was some breakout stuff not long after he started, right, 561 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: and you started to see the signs of how great 562 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: he could be, because I remember a lot of the 563 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: local media saying, if he's as good as Rick Smiths, 564 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: that'll be fine. But he got a lot better than 565 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: Rick Smith's over time. Absolutely. Yeah, I remember, you know, 566 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: those first few games, everyone's sort of like shaking their 567 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: head a little bit, like, you know, is he gonna 568 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: get there? Is he gonna is he gonna be able 569 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: to live up to this incredible hype? It's so much 570 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: pressure on him. Um, I've never seen an athlete handle 571 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: that kind of pressure with that kind of grace and 572 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: dignity and uh, you know, always always had a one 573 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: liner at the ready to to sort of divert some 574 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: of the you know, some of the pressure that he 575 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: was going through. But you're right, he had some of 576 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: those moments, some of those uh you knows. I looked 577 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: every once in a while, not so much nowadays, but 578 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: there used to be a period of time there where 579 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: you'd see the Year of the Yeah, that documentary that 580 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: they made, and uh, it's it's always cool to to 581 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: sort of look back at that and see some of 582 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: those really interesting times that we went through that first 583 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: matchup with shack Uh. There was such a build up. 584 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: It was back then. David Carr I remember going over, 585 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: he was there far shoot around, he was that that 586 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: day was was just an amazing spectacle whatever people there 587 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: for that shoot around. What about Colin Parne? How did 588 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: he come into the fray and along those lines, you 589 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: went through an education process with the local media. How 590 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: did you get educated on how to handle Yeah, I 591 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: remember things as basically as you don't call him ming, 592 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: you call him yeah, it's not a last name, or 593 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: and then the traditional sense all of that stuff. His 594 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: name was always wrong on the score on the stats sheets, 595 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: it was it was wrong. Like the first two years 596 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: or so of his playing, there were there was always 597 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: problems with the with the system putting putting that stuff in. 598 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, Uh, he was an amazing player 599 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: in that he you know, he would do two, three, 600 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: four media sessions to every one that every other player 601 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: would do right, because he would do he would do 602 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: something in Mandarin. Then he would you know, so he'd 603 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: have his group of usually what six seven eighth members 604 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: of the of the Chinese media that would be there 605 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: as beat writers, but then he would do the locals 606 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: and then you know, if that was a shoot around, 607 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: then there's also be pre game and then post game. 608 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: It was and for him, you know, just always classy, 609 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: always again, regardless if he had a great game or 610 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: not a great game, Um just always handled It was 611 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: such class and was such a pleasure to deal with. 612 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: But he really he did from my perspective, like he 613 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: was prepared for that. You know, he was prepared for 614 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: that stage. And when he first got there, I was nervous. 615 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: I remember being there at the at the airport looking 616 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: at him walking through this thing and seeing just tons 617 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: of every news outlet in Houston and others that had 618 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: flown in to get that first shot of him coming 619 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: through the airport, and I just thought to myself, is 620 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: he going to be up for this challenge? And he 621 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: was so so upboard, you know, so up for it. 622 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: He was just Nelson. They're obviously different planets, but yet 623 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: seeming in the same solar system. So how did your 624 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: experience in dealing with Yow and helping Yoo get accustomed 625 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: everything in Houston and you dealing with that, how did 626 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: that help you When Tom Brady becomes a quarterback down 627 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: in Tampa. Like I said, we know they're different. Tom's 628 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: not doing an interview in Mandarin, but we know obviously 629 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: what goes with Tom and the national and local acclaim 630 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: that goes with him. How did that help you having 631 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: dealt with Yow, did that help you at all with Tom? 632 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: Just kind of that experience that you had something to 633 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: draw him when you were dealing with him. Absolutely, I 634 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: think so. You know, it's it's in thing I jok 635 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: around with some of my friends sometimes that I'm almost 636 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: like the Forrest Gump of sports pr guys. Uh I 637 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: you know I was. I was on the UH. I 638 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: was the Buccaneers when like Warren Sapp was drafted and 639 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: Derek Brook you're some of our Hall of famers. But 640 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: then I go to the PJA Tour and Tiger Woods 641 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: is white hot and he is you know the thing 642 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: back in when you're talking about nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, um. 643 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: And then I go to the NBA and I've got yaoming, 644 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: and then I end up back in the NFL with 645 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. So every one of those experiences you learn 646 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: from and you draw from. UM. There was definitely, you know, 647 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: the one thing in the NBA. I think sometimes you can, 648 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, not every single day is a big news 649 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: day in the NBA. There, especially at the beginning of 650 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: the season, that kind of you know, the NFL's in 651 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: full swing and you're really just trying to get your 652 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: footing until certain time of the season and then that 653 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: becomes the NBA part of the sports schedule. In the NFL, 654 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: every single day can become something big in the off season, 655 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: and you know, you can be on vacation and there's 656 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: a big news day. Um, just past Sunday, I was 657 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: on my couch and all the sudden, Alan mar Pett 658 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: was retiring and for us, that's a big that's a 659 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: big news day. So you know, I learned a lot 660 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: from the Yoo experience because you know, it put us 661 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: on center stage everywhere we went every day. So that 662 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: kind of prepared me for dealing with something like to 663 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Tom Brady can make news anywhere he is, 664 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, news correct, correct? Tampa Bay Vice president of 665 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: Communications Nelson Louise with us also Rockets former Rockets director 666 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: of media Relations. All Right, so Tracy McGrady, he wasn't 667 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: in the top seventy five, that's ridiculous. I think my opinion, 668 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you worked with him the guy. I know 669 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs didn't go as well as we needed them too, 670 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: but my gosh, one of the greatest players I've ever seen. Absolutely, 671 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: he was phenomenal. And I think that, uh, you you 672 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: almost just took it for granted how great he was 673 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: at times. I think the injuries for him, you know, 674 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: the back injuries that he was dealing with, and uh 675 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: he was he was struggling through at least at the 676 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: end of his career when I was with him there, 677 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: I think that was you know, that definitely hurt him overall, 678 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: but just a great player. And I had loved my 679 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: time with Terrison McGrady. That that time when when Yao 680 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: and Tracy were together, um was some of my favorite 681 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: career time that I've that I've had. It was, you know, 682 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: just a phenomenal play. I never forget the what was 683 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: it third thirteen points and uh that thing was amazing, 684 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: you know. I look at that and and just think 685 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: to myself when we had the twenty two game winning streak, 686 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: um where Yao was out for a while and Tracy 687 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: was out for a while. But this this group of 688 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: guys that we had Shane and all these guys. It 689 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: was just it was a really cool time. It was 690 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: really fun. You know, when I look back at those times, 691 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: I always smile. Now, so was your last year at 692 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: the Rockets twenty thirteen? Okay, so let's start the third 693 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: component in there with Yea and Tracy of run our Test, 694 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: who I think it was still Yes, how did that 695 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: change things? What you what's that volatile young man was 696 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: starting into the mix? Right? Yeah, it's funny. I was obviously, 697 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: as you could imagine, as the PR guy, quite a 698 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: bit concerned. Uh just you know, we were, you know, 699 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I was still pretty fresh in a lot of people's 700 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: minds what had happened, and you know, previous to uh, 701 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: to his arrival in Houston. And I'll tell you Ron, 702 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: actually he was different. For sure, he was. He was 703 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: a different kind of cat. But honestly, I had a 704 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: good relationship with him, and UM pretty much kept it 705 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: on the fairway as much as we could with him. 706 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: And you know, for the most part, there weren't hopefully 707 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, I don't that I know of anywhere, not 708 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: too many crazy stories that uh they came out and um, 709 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 1: but again, he was another big piece to the puzzle 710 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: for US. UM And you know, we had to Kim 711 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: Bay who was amazing to you talk about another one 712 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: of my favorite athletes to work with. Um He was 713 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: just and just an amazing humanitarian and just I think 714 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Yao learned a lot from to Kim Bay um And 715 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: and just sort of you know, his life after basketball, 716 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: you can see he's done a lot of humanitarian things 717 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: and he kind of had stayed in the mix on 718 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But but back to ron our tests, 719 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: he was he was a fun guy to deal with. 720 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: Um And And again, I mean we you know, we 721 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: never got much further than like a second round the playoffs, 722 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: but it was really um you know, it was it 723 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: was a really cool time, like I said, to be 724 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: with those guys. If ya doesn't get hurt against the 725 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Lakers in round two, who knows what happens. Rights that 726 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: might have been the most crushing blow because that happened 727 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: during our radio show and the news dropped and I 728 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: just remember, like for ten minutes, we didn't we didn't 729 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: even know what to say. We just kind of mumbled. 730 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: Sean Pendergast and I were doing the show again. We 731 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: just mumbled at each other, mumbled like we had chance, 732 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 1: we could have done this, This could have been us 733 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: and then he gets hurt. It was all right, Lovey Smith. 734 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: We've lived with him for a year now as a 735 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Now he's the head coach of the Houston Texans. 736 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about working with him? And 737 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: Tampa Bank got nothing but great things to say about 738 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith. I really enjoyed, uh, you know, my my 739 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: unfortunately brief period of time to work with him. The 740 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: second time. Um. I was actually with Lovey when he 741 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: was on Tony Dungee staff with the Buccaneers back in 742 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: the you know, in the mid nineties before I uh, 743 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: but Lovey was you know, I think you guys are 744 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: gonna have a very good coach that's going to really 745 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: get everything put together, um and give you guys a 746 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: chance every every week. He's he's really for me, you know, 747 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: as a pr person when you're working, you know, there's 748 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: certain things that we've got to ask of our coaches. 749 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: He was always good with the media. He was always 750 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: doing what, you know, what you need him to do. 751 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: You need someone that has that presence in that sort. 752 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, when Lovey Smith walks in the room, you 753 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: know it. You know, his presence is there, and um, 754 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: I think you guys, you know, you ended up with 755 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: a really good coach and you're gonna you're gonna you're 756 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: gonna reap the benefits here. Yeah, quite the personality at quarterback, 757 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: but you also quite the personality a head coach. What's 758 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: BA like to deal with? Bruce arians the head coach 759 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: of the Bucks. He is super cool. I mean, there's 760 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: there's really no other way to put it. He's just 761 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: the coolest cat out there. He he really is, um, 762 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: very low key. Uh. When it comes to the media game, 763 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: he gets it. I mean there's there's times and I'm 764 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: trying to catch up to him, like, okay, coach just 765 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: did this interview. I didn't realize that was that was happening. 766 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's got so many friends in the media, 767 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: but he's he's really you know, for us, during this 768 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: last couple of years, it's been exceptional. Right, Like we 769 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: went from a team that was just sort of out 770 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: there as one of thirty two to all of a sudden, 771 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: the last two years really had the spotlight on us, 772 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: and so many requests that come in and so many 773 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: things that you have to ask of your head coach 774 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: and just he's amazing to work with, Amazing to work with. Nelson, 775 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being one of us. We appreciate it. 776 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely loved having an opportunity to sit down with you 777 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: guys for a few minutes. All right, Johnny. I knew 778 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: that Nelson Louise on the marquee by himself. The name 779 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: might not really ring too many bells, but all his 780 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: experience with Lovey smith yow ming in Houston, winning the 781 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the Bucks, Tom Brady handling Tiger Woods, 782 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: or part of the PGA contingent that did in the 783 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: late nineties early ohs, really interesting stuff from him. Really 784 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: fun to catch up with Nelson. He was with the 785 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: Rockets when I first got here in two thousand and 786 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: seven and could not have been more accommodating, could not 787 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: have been more fun to work with. When he went 788 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: to Tampa, I didn't realize that he was from Tampa 789 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: and b had been with Tampa earlier. But his comment 790 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: about Four's Gump was holy smokes. He was with the Rye, 791 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: He was with Lovey and Tony Dungee when they and 792 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: Warren sapping those guys when they won the Ring and 793 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: around that time in two thousand and two that he's 794 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: with PGA, and then it's just incredible to think about 795 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: all the different places he has, he's he's touched along 796 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: the way, and I can only imagine being around. Yeah. 797 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: I always thought that was such just a crazy instance 798 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: because my first time I ever went to a Rockets 799 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: game Mark as a you know, covering the team. I 800 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: remember hearing, look, we only have one seat up on 801 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: the on the row. You're gonna have to stand from 802 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: behind if you end up going with somebody, and usually 803 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: we had like two or three guys typically go I 804 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: was like, okay, why, Well, then I found out because 805 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: the whole row was like twenty seats was Asian media 806 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: from Houston, all of the world, all those seats, and 807 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the times it was at least fifty 808 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: sixty percent filled with people that were there covering. It 809 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: was unbelievable, like he said, to do all of that 810 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: and just nuts, like he said, every game was an 811 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: event because of that guy. And then you had the 812 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: Texans starting up at the same time. He mentioned David 813 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: Carr beging to shoot around or whatever it was. And 814 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: I remember meeting Yow once and I was introduced to 815 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: him as the voice of the Texans. He totally understood 816 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: what that all meant. I mean, yeah, was super sharp obviously, 817 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: and he spoke English apparently well enough early on, but 818 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: just to be sure they had the interpreter, and Nelson 819 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: mentioned I'll stop here on this one. Nelson mentioned the 820 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: movie The Year of the Yow, which I highly recommend 821 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: because that's a piece of Houston sports history right there 822 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: because you see all the media guys in the background 823 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: and everything, and it's super cool. Anyway, that was Nelson, 824 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: Johnny and I have some thoughts on the combine coming 825 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: up next. We have big guests tomorrow like Mike Keith 826 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: of the Tennessee Titans. He's the voice of the Titans. 827 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor's going to join us this week voice of 828 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: the Colts as well, and many others to visit with 829 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: you right here on Texans All Access here in Indianapolis, 830 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: NFL Scouting com by Mark Vanderma and John Harris with you. 831 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: Check out Houston Texans dot com and the Texans app 832 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: for everything about the Texans Today. Nick Cassario stuff is 833 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: up there. We had them on the show earlier and 834 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: that'll be on the Texans app soon enough, Johnny, I'm 835 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: gonna give you a question that's been thrown at me 836 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: a lot today. Other than the obvious, what are the 837 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: Texans needs? What do the Texans need to do with 838 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: the third pick in the draft? Look, you reduce it 839 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: to that kind of simplicity when you're being talked to 840 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: by media from other cities. Right, Obviously it's something we 841 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: discuss in Houston. But I don't know if we discuss 842 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: it enough. You have the third pick in the draft. 843 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: All the other stuff seems to overshadow this. You have 844 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: the number three pick in the draft. What do the 845 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: Texans need? What are you telling the out of towns. Well, 846 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people go ahead and say, well, we 847 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: know the Texans need a lot. I'm like, yeah, they're 848 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: you know when people do draft needs or like Texas 849 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: needs everything. I don't think you can go wrong with 850 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: fortifying your lines, whether it's edge guys or one particular 851 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: edge guy and Aidan Hutchinson, or going to offensive line. 852 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: I just feel like creating what Lovey Smith would like 853 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 1: to create and what Nick Kissario would like to create 854 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: as a physical football team, and I think you can 855 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: do that with a couple of the offensive linemen that 856 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: are up at the top of the draft. They're talked 857 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: about Ikey Aquantin from Ency State, have In Neo from Alabama. 858 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: Neil and a Quanta are three and four respectively in 859 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: Harrison one hundred. I think that highly of them. I 860 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: think the other thing also is just playmakers. I mean 861 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: who makes plays? And I love Coyle. Hamilton's number one 862 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: the Harrison one hundred. I would love to see him 863 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: in Houston. But if you're able to bring Justin reidback 864 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: and you have Jo coming back, then maybe that's not 865 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: as high priority need as it is to fortify the 866 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: offensive line. And obviously George Warhops coming in as the 867 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: offensive line coach, how Hunter is the assistant line coach. 868 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: And I got to feel and they want to they 869 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: want to move people off the ball. Now Coach said 870 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: it with us. Yeah, Look, you're not gonna knock guys 871 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: four five yards off the ball if your play exactly. 872 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: But you've got to be able to be in the fight, 873 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: latch drive and attempt to just get some movement and 874 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: stay on those blocks to allow your running backs to 875 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: make some move But if you do that, then you've 876 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 1: you've got a couple guys up front that are people 877 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: movers that can create space displace people. And Evan Neil 878 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: and Ikey Aquant And I know people have asked me, well, okay, 879 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: they're both tackles, right, so what does that mean about 880 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: Laramy Tunsel? And honestly, I'm like, honestly, I don't really care. 881 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: Evan Neil play guard his first year at Alabama and 882 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: Aky Aquanau for a long time heading into twenty twenty one, 883 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: was thought, too, well, he'll move to guard. I don't 884 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: think he is. I think he's a tackle. But if 885 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: you had to move Ikey into guard, you could do 886 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: that too. And then you've got a line with Tunsel 887 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: Howard and Ikey Tunsel Howard and Evan Neil. Now you 888 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: got the makings of something really darn good at that 889 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: particular point. So I think they get big. I would 890 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: love Kyle Hamilton, but if they're able to do something 891 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: in free agency of the safety position, then then maybe Hamilton. 892 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: Maybe Hamilton's not there. It's a high pick for a safety, 893 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: That's the thing, and that's what we have to stop doing. 894 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: And that is calling a guy a safety, calling a 895 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: guy a tight end. How much does that particular player impact. Yes, 896 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: safety is his position, right, it's his true position, but 897 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: there's so many other things he can do, Like what 898 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: position to Tyrann Mathew play? What does he play? Does 899 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: he play safety? Does he play nickel? Does he play 900 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: all of them? I think if you have position versatility 901 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: and you could play all of them extremely well, which 902 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: I think Kyle Hamilton can do, he's more than a safety. 903 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: But you can't put all those different slashes when you 904 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: put it into you know, the Harris one hundred because 905 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: a haf and a many get really mad at me 906 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: for that. So you got to pick a Yeah, so 907 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: you got to pick a position. Safety. Well, you look 908 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: at tight end and you're like, how many different tight 909 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: ends have we seen over the years? What type of 910 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: you know? Gronk, Brevin Jordan, and Steven Anderson all play 911 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: the same quote unquote position of tight end, right, but 912 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: they're all three totally different guys. So I think the 913 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: same can be said in some sense for a safety 914 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: because the safety could be asked to do a lot 915 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: of different things. And the same with Neil and a Quantu. 916 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: They can play kut back, well, they could play guard. 917 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: So you've got some position versatility with that, they're just 918 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: freaking monsters. And as far as Hamilton goes dude six 919 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: three two twenty one and runs like the wind and 920 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: hits like a mack truck. I mean that's almost as 921 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: big as a linebacker in today's game. Why would you 922 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: not want that team? Yeah, well look I'll take them all. 923 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yes, I'll take them all, Alex. 924 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that's an option though, but we'll see 925 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: what happens. Combine coverage continues on Wednesday on Houston Texans 926 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: dot com as Lovey Smith will be live at one 927 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: thirty and you'll see them on the website, Facebook, Twitter, 928 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: wherever you want to watch them, and we'll have them 929 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: on Texans All Access as well and exclusive visit with 930 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: the head coach of your Texans. Thank you everyone for 931 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: being a part of tonight's show. Have a great evening 932 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: and go Texans.