1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Nicky Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Dearest mother, I have received your care 6 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: package of pickled fox thumbs and fresh squirrel oil. The 7 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: posse of Cowboys inches closer Friday Scouts have yet to 8 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: see them, but can smell their barbecue. And here they're whooping. 9 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: We continue to drill and prepare focused. Andrew. Nothing says 10 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: big game like pickled fox thumbs and fresh squirrel oil. 11 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: And that's what the Cowboys encounter on Sunday at noon, 12 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Dallas time against the Indianapolis Colts. And welcome to Talking Cowboys. 13 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Nothing better than Captain Andrew Luck, is it? Captain Captain 14 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck? Texas off here? That was just for you, Mick, 15 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: not colonel or no, No, he's he's a captain. Yeah, 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: he's a captain in this. It's exactly right. Soldier cult, 17 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: simple man, simple man, marching. Yeah, Captain Andrew Luck. How 18 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: many times you think he gets asked about that? Oh, 19 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: I bet a lot. He's been a what round for 20 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: a while. It's just been four years since the Cowboys 21 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: played Captain Andrew. Yeah, it has Colts and so we 22 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: can clinched the division. Last time you played this the 23 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: same way forty two to seven. In fact, that it 24 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: was Hasselbeck who finished that game. Luck. Yeah, it was 25 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: a gone after it was a beating that wasn't remember 26 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: that game stadium they pulled and pulled him. Yeah, they 27 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: pulled him out of the Oh that's right. Yeah, that 28 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: was a game when and I remember the linebacker Anthy Hitchins, 29 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: Anthey Hitchins was playing really well. Is like it was 30 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: a rookie year and he because Sean Lee was out 31 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Shaun Lee and they was banged up and out. Imagine that, 32 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: in fact, he was out the whole year. That you'll 33 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: get to it, Mickey, you'll get to a Scottering report 34 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: about today or but but yeah, but I remember that 35 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: because Anthon Hitchins was a pre game decision whether he 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: was going to go or not, and he could barely 37 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: like walk, And then he played that game and he 38 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: was incredible. It was total domination. That damination. It was 39 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: sure was they couldn't stop you there. Hopefully that'll be 40 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: the same thing happening this time around. Well, in the 41 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: previous time, they faced not Andrew Luck but Peyton Manning 42 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: in the Indianapolis coach their last trip to Indianapolis. They 43 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: needed Shaun Lee on that day. Yeah, just a little 44 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: bit they did. It was coming out party sort of 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: was Did does Bryant break his ankle in that game? 46 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Was on a kickoff return that we were in Indianapolis? 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: Was that the game year for yeah, rookie year that 48 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: he fractured his ankle. I want to say on a 49 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: kickoff return. I remember nothing about that game other than 50 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: that was part of the about this That was part 51 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: of the Jason Garrett interim term where they did a 52 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: really nice job for him. I mean that was sure 53 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: Kent is going to look that up for me. I 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: think brand broke his ankle that kid, And that was 55 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: against fractures ankle. That was against a pretty average Colts 56 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: team to Peyton Manning. They had Peyton Manning, but they 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: weren't very good that year. Got intercepted twice by Sean Lee, 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: one return for a touchdown. Yeah, was that it overtime? 59 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: A bunch of old man now. Yeah, I'm trying to 60 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: remind you guys of broken ankles. We're talking about overtime games, 61 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: but it might have been. It might have been. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 62 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: sure did see. That's the hard thing about you know, 63 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: when you play these quarterbacks like the Peyton Mannings and 64 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: the Drew Breeses and the Tom Bradys and stuff, you 65 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: usually tend to remember the game a little bit better 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: because you remember, oh wow, remember when where this at 67 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: the Superdome and and Damian Wilson's late on the field 68 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: and they run the wheel route and Drew Peres finds 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mean you just you remember games against 70 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: Baton Manning exactly. Remember all the remember all the Aaron 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers games. You know, you forget the other games when 72 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: guys weren't very good playing. Have you Have you found 73 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: it yet? I haven't really liked that closely. Yeah, it's 74 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: looking at more Captain Andrew luck tweets. They are the best. 75 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: You know what, though, somebody needs to put together a 76 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: latent vander Ish Twitter like that. I mean, like, wouldn't 77 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: that be funny? This is like going back in the woods. Yeah, 78 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: this wouldn't it be great? This week? Yeah? Having one 79 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: where the cowboys are making their way with their pack 80 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: of wolves to Indianapolis to take Andrew goes back to 81 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: that fake Layton character that's on local radio. That's right, Yeah, 82 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: that's simple, simple man, right right? Pretty saw it airplayed 83 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: for the first time that you'd only see the things 84 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: flying in the air were like birds, eagles and stuff. 85 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: And there's these mechanical objects that are flying in the air. 86 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: So stupid. It doesn't get better than General Andrew Luck. No, 87 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: you need to call him Captain Andrew Luck. Captain Luck. 88 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: Captain Captain Andrew Luck. Okay, so d did go over time? Yeah? Wow, 89 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: high scoring affair. I thought high scoring affairs only started 90 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: happening this year in the NFL. And who beat Peyton 91 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: Manning John Kitten John John Kitten twenty six for all 92 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: of one hundred and sixty seven yards in one touchdown? 93 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: All right, did you answer the question about Dez Bryant? 94 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: Is it showing your box score that he left the 95 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: game with him he only caught one pass fourteen years 96 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: I want to me then, Yeah, and guess who was 97 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: the who was the leading rusher to shard choice? My 98 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: man to shard choice at one hundred yards rushing against 99 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: the Colts in two thousand and ten carries for one 100 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: hundred yards and a touchdown for to Shard. I know 101 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: he was your guy and the world part. Yeah, he 102 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: was the word as a four yard Jones twenty two 103 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: carries forty three yards back. They came out in the 104 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: same year, the same draft. Felix Jones your first round pick, 105 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: and I was a much more excited about to Shard 106 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth round. You know why I like to 107 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: Shard that because of a locker rooms speech he gave 108 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: it Georgia Georgia tech of the Chan Gaily administration. Y. Yeah, yeah, 109 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, that's the kind of guys you need 110 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: on your team. Now, he's a running backs coach at 111 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: University of North Texas. Here you go. Ye. They had 112 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: they had four interceptions of Peyton Manning. Wow, Peyton Manning 113 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: had a game like that? One true? Is he not accurate? 114 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: Not accurate? Four inters? He also had three hundred and 115 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: sixty five yards passing exactly about actively right there. All right, 116 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: so you mentioned Sean Lee. We have an update on 117 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: shan Lee Mickey. It was reporting Mickey's He's on the 118 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: internet instead of limited limited Buddy, We had pads on, 119 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: he was out there practice. Yeah, that's right. This is Thursday. 120 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: Was there was the first problem? I've already gone by Wednesday. Yeah, yeah, 121 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. It may feel good, bad and indifferent 122 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: about that whole thing. The fact that he was practicing, 123 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: I think is a very good that's good. Yeah, feel 124 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: any way about that one, Mick. I still want to 125 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: see um if they're really gonna play him after one 126 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: padded practice, play him as far as in the game, 127 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: dress him in this game? Yes, yes, Was he the 128 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: only one in pads? Tavon Austin was what do you mean? 129 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: Everybody else was just had their jerseys on and they 130 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: put him in pass He probably went out there. I 131 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: mean I would be with it here. I wouldn't be 132 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: surprised if you know Sean Lee's reputation, that he would 133 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: be the only one out there without. But it's not raining, 134 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: and he was out there in full uniform. I think 135 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: if he practices all week, that's a good sign. But 136 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: I think they've put themselves in position where, yes, you 137 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: need to go and win this game and go ahead 138 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and wrap up this division. But if he's not, then 139 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: you don't push it this week, especially given the fact 140 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: that he's is the second time he's hurt this thing? Yea, 141 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: how many times has he come back? And then when 142 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: does he play? Then next week? I mean saying, if 143 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: there's any doubt, if they be clinched it, how many 144 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: weeks has he missed since the Tennessee six and he 145 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: didn't play the whole Tennessee game? Yeah, six weeks got 146 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: to play? Don't don't we get to play? Got to play, 147 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: but she got to be ready to play? Wow, from 148 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: a physical standpoint, And I think they'll they'll make that. 149 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: They'll make that decision because if he gets enough work, 150 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: don't you don't you? I don't think you save him 151 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: just to save him. I'm not saying that. I'm saying, 152 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: if there's any doubt, don't think anybody was accusing you 153 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: of that. No, I don't mean that, and I no, no, 154 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, And I don't mean if there's any doubt. 155 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: Even if there's no doubt. Sometimes they don't put guys 156 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: out right away. But if they feel like he's ready 157 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: to go, then all right, Because we've gotten we've gotten 158 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: fan questions saying, well, why don't you just bubble wrap him? 159 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Because you're probably gonna make the playoffs. Sure, don't you 160 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: want the third seed? That's what I'm saying you need 161 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: to do. You need to try to win games right now? Yeah, 162 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: you haven't won anything. No, Um, what are the chances 163 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: of the Bears losing two? Then? I don't mean to 164 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: derail the Bears, I mean make it Bears talk. But 165 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: what's their schedule again? Green Bay sat Minnesota for those 166 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: last two and they're three and three in road games 167 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, I kind of see where Mickey's not 168 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: kind of I'm with Nicky on this. I'm going I'm 169 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: trying to get the third seed. I'm trying to. But 170 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: but am I gonna lose the Am I gonna lose 171 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: the war? Because I'm trying to win a battle. But 172 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: they're not. They're not shutting it down for the Tampa 173 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: Bay game. I mean, even if they win this week, 174 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: they're not shutting it down. They're going to keep it going, 175 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: and they'll shut it down the last week. I mean, 176 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: that's what those which beat up like a bye week 177 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: before the playoffs. Those guys just asked me should Young 178 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: in Philadelphias I has to go with their backup quarterback 179 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: and Washington's got this and this, should they just shut 180 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: everybody down the rest of the way. And I'm going 181 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: they hadn't won anything yet. Yeah, but even okay, but 182 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: if we're getting ahead of ourselves here, and let's say 183 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: they win Sunday, they are not going to rest people 184 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: for two straight weeks prior to I mean, you got 185 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: to keep this thing going. I mean, I just can't 186 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: back raight of injuries. There was a rust factor to me, 187 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: right exactly in that Green Bay game two weeks off 188 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: before that, right, yeah, basically you got the they didn't 189 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: play anybody against the Eagles that final game of your 190 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: major players, and then you had to buy because you 191 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: were the number one seed. And then so you basically 192 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: didn't play a game for two weeks and nothing kicked 193 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: in until the second half of right right, hell behind. 194 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: And the most is, if I if everything said and 195 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: done in that last game, I'll give him the second 196 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: half off, I'm playing Zeke might sit in them. Yeah, okay, 197 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: if you go Zeke, who else you had a last said, yeah, 198 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: you sit Martin. I mean, I'm just I'm not trying 199 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: to I'm just trying to think his team has played 200 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: playoff games since Week eight I think about it. They 201 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: have played a playoff game since Week eight. You've got 202 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: yourself in position to win this division now, But at 203 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: what expense do you do you? I mean, I I'm 204 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: with you, guys, keep playing. I've said it earlier. The 205 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: teams that have had to battle through to get in 206 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs are usually the teams that are best prepared 207 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. This team has had to battle. But 208 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: can you afford to play without Zach Martin, you know, 209 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs? Or can you afford to play without 210 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott? No? Nope, So is you know when you 211 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: start to draw the line of Okay, he doesn't play, 212 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't play. Well? Who else? Yeah? Who else? That's 213 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: my Yeah? Do you sit? You sit Lawrence, Tyron Smith's 214 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: had something, You sit vanderi Ish, Yeah, you know, you sit, 215 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, you sit Byron Jones? You know? When do 216 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: you where do you draw the line? The other part 217 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: of that is you don't have enough players to play 218 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: a game if you sit too many guys. Well, that's true, 219 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: and somebody puts their hand up in the air and goes, uh, coach, 220 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: howcome I gotta play? Because everybody here at December thirteenth, 221 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: has something right now, nobody's one hundreds. So that's that's 222 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: Will said. I mean, the injury report is you know what, 223 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: ten guys, but it's there's somebody's got something, some bruise. 224 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: It's funny how magical the injury report turns into nobody 225 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: when you get in the playoffs. Super Bowl week, everybody, yeah, 226 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: super Bowl is like nobody. Think he was a pool reporter. 227 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: He'll tell you here, Mickey report injuries, No injuries today. 228 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: Everybody practiced. And when you get in the playoffs, everybody 229 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: wants to be on deck. They don't want to. They 230 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: don't want That's why guys like Austin and those they're pushing. 231 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: They're pushing to be a part of something like that, 232 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, being a playoff game. You know he told 233 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: us yesterday with his groin injury, I think he said 234 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: torn off the bone and he could have had surgery, 235 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: but he had risk surgery last year. He didn't want 236 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: to do that again. It was hell. I was told 237 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: it was very similar to what Terrence Newman took place 238 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: with Terrence S. Newman. Remember Newman didn't have surgery, right, 239 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: Mo Claiborne did, and it really didn't get back ever 240 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: got back, and so that's why they were leaning towards 241 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: no surgery. Yeah, when I think the dude in Philadelphia 242 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: wanted to do surgery. Yeah, when he went and saw 243 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: the specialist, that's true. Good memory there from from which 244 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: I think I remember it was like, if you go 245 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: see him, you better bring your overnight bag because you're 246 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: having surgery. Yeah. Yeah, he's a he's a fixer. Guys 247 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: in philly's a fixerx he's a fixer. So the guys 248 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: in Washington can't do anything with what's going on with there. 249 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't mean to derail the show there, no, um, 250 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: but Washington is what's another mass Johnson? No another another 251 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: or staff infection or something going real. Yeah, Darius, guys, 252 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: he's got something wrong with He had to go in 253 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: and do something again to his knee because an infection. 254 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: Alex Smith and Alex Smith. Something's going on. I'm not 255 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: I'm not one two. Maybe they're not going to Walter 256 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Reed Hospital. There's not one to question infections. Yeah, maybe 257 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: he's been down that road. No, I'm just hey, I 258 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: trust love, I love doctors, nurses, I love everybody. I mean, 259 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: but that's unusual. What's going on there? But yeah, I 260 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: thought you met with the quarterback situation. No, which, by 261 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: the way, they're gonna start Johnson. Yeah, Josh Johnson. The 262 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: last time he started, Yes, he started one game since 263 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: twenty ten. Yeah, it was against the Cowboys back here, 264 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: one game since twenty ten, and he was playing last 265 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: week Madden. He was playing Madden. What did you hear 266 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: what he said? He was trying to get to know 267 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: his team and he was watching the Madden Yeah, but 268 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: he was last week. He was a member of one 269 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: of the franchises in the Alliance of American Football play 270 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: in the spring. He got drafted for them, Yeah, Memphis team. Yeah, Singletaryea. Yeah, 271 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: there you go. And so he was, uh, and then 272 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: he gets a call last Tuesday or whenever from the 273 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: Redskins and he was playing in a game Sunday And 274 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: now he's starting this week, right Yeah? Wow? Is he 275 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: the one who was a John Gruden draft pick in 276 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: Tampa or is that a different player he was? He 277 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: was a Hardball I believe he's hard University of San 278 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: Diego and he went to San Francisco Harball. Yeah, he 279 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: probably played for Hardball San Diego. Man did he did. Yeah, 280 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: so that's how he knew him. Yeah, tough break for 281 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Washington this year. Don't feel bad for them, I'm not. 282 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's I can go. I could go 283 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: one of two ways for you. You know, you know, 284 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: back on Sean Lee for just a second. You know, 285 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: you look at his games played this year, which was 286 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: the opener against Carolina, and then he played against the 287 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: Giants and Seattle, So the first three games, okay, then 288 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: he was out until the Washington game Week seven and 289 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: bye week, and then Tennessee went out early third quarter 290 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: of that game after not playing a lot in the 291 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: first half of that game, and so you wonder, So 292 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: it was three games injured, one and a half games injured. 293 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing on him is not 294 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: he's probably he's not going to be one hundred. You 295 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't think, okay, probably maybe the rest of his life. 296 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: Is he physically as healthy as he's gonna be, right, 297 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: and so so I think the big question is what 298 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: are the percentages of him re injuring it? And you 299 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: don't want him to reinjure it. And if that's the case, 300 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: then you feel great about what you got right but 301 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: the other guys, right, I mean, let's you know, if 302 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: if if these if these trainers and doctors are saying it, 303 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: he's healthy enough to practice and try and play in 304 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: this game. That's all you need to know, right, They're 305 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: not going to put hurt players out there to practice 306 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: and you know everybody's banged up. Yeah, Rob's absolutely right 307 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: about that. But you you've got to you know what, 308 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: you're now six weeks, six weeks and I want to 309 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: and I know guys are different, but it's it's that 310 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: they they've they've they've I think that they've to me, 311 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: it's like that they've been really cautious with this thing 312 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: over to the point. I mean, it's they're really trying 313 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: to get him back. See, I want to I'd like 314 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: to know. Was it was it just a a deal 315 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: in training camp where a precautionary thing, or was he 316 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: dealing with something in training camp and that's why he 317 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: wasn't able to do anything. He was dealing with something. Yeah, 318 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: it's OTA's the mini camps they were trying to were 319 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: a lot of guys they weren't doing anything with and 320 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I he's got to be frustrated 321 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: he's got, he's got to be frustrated, but you know, 322 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: it would be nice to see him be able of 323 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: the play here the last month of the season and 324 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. You know, I mean, I'm not saying 325 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: anything you guys don't already know. You know what I'm not. 326 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at this from an injury standpoint, because 327 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: if he's out there now practicing, he's fine. He's fine, 328 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: they're not hurt in the field. Now he's telling you 329 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: that is his body ready to play football with one 330 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: padded practice, right, that's the question. And you don't want 331 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: to send somebody out there at you know, because today's 332 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: his shells Friday, no no pads. Is he ready to 333 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: play a game and throw his body in there? And 334 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: that's kind of where I was going. If you get 335 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: through this whole week and he still feels good and 336 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: you get up to game time and he's ready, then cool. 337 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: But it's been six weeks and it is something that 338 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: again it goes all the way back to training camp. 339 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: I am trying to kind of look at the big 340 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: picture too and say this has happened twice, let's not 341 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: push it just to get to this game. When the 342 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: odds are in your favor to win this division at 343 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: some point in the next three weeks until you want 344 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: him in the playoffs available. Yeah, but Brian's right. If 345 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: he's on the field, he's obviously at a point where 346 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: he can practice and be in position upon Yeah, I'm 347 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: with you, Rob, I just, I just I don't know. 348 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of caught between. I want to 349 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: see him play. I want to see him play, and 350 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: I know the trainers are putting him out there because 351 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: he's healthy enough to participate in practice. But I'm also 352 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: thinking it's Sean Lee. And Sean Lee has gone through 353 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: this before where he hasn't had he's had time off 354 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: and he's had to come back and play. Now. Earlier 355 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: the year it wasn't successful, you know. But I think 356 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: that they've just allowed enough time here too. I'm anxious 357 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: to see if this works out. I don't think they 358 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: play any sort of what's the word I'm looking for. 359 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: I think this thing comes down to a trainer decision, 360 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: and it should it should. I think that's the should. 361 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: If they say, hey, no problem whatsoever, Yeah, go yes. 362 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: But if they say, you know what, I think he 363 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: needs another week just to make sure, then no, See, 364 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: that's the hard decision they're going to have to make 365 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: as a group because they don't and it's just sound. 366 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: They don't know that because Sean Lee does not have 367 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: a great history of coming back after injury. It's something 368 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: else happens. So now you have that When is enough time? 369 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: Is seven weeks enough time on this injury? Also, there's 370 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: eight weeks enough time on this injury and the type 371 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 1: of injury it is, and the type of injury it 372 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: is a soft tissue. It's not a bone or something 373 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: that's healed. Yes, it's something that can be pulled. Again, 374 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: look at the Philadelphia had to deal with Sproles. I 375 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: mean he missed most of the year, you know with this, 376 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: And hey, I trust the trainers and the doctors here, 377 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: I really really do. I just when do you know 378 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: about Shaun Lee? When do you know? Unless he plays, 379 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: when do you know? I think they know. Now it's 380 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: a matter of is he ready to play football not? 381 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: His hamstrings are ready to be football. That's better, that's 382 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: ready to play foot well, said Mickey and wrap up 383 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: the discussion on Sean Lee his snap counts in the 384 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 1: games he has played in this season because a lot 385 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: of people are concerned, Oh, you can't take snaps away 386 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: from Layton Vanderish fifty nine snaps against Carolina, forty one 387 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: against the Giants, thirty six against Seattle, then after coming 388 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: back against Washington thirty eight snaps, and then seventeen against 389 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: Tennessee before he left early in the third quarters. He's 390 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: on pace for another thirty five snap. Yeah. There, So 391 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: that's why they wauned him in the past, but they 392 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: had one before he missed was an injury. He didn't 393 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: finish the game before the Tennessee the first time in 394 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: the Seattle game. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, we continue and 395 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: take your calls here on talking Cowboys and just how 396 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: hot is this Indianapolis team the Cowboys are going up 397 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: against when we come back. Has been helping Cowboys fans 398 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: seat better since nineteen seventy two. He said, they don't 399 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: miss a moment on the field. 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Yeah, well you have 450 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: all that stuff laying there now they've moved a thought 451 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: stuff off the little end table over there. Well what 452 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: are we gonna do about that? And making us walk 453 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: out that door and raise some hell? At ten going 454 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: to how are you? Douglass? He's kind of in charge 455 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: him and Canner and charges rolled them under the bus. Yes, hey, 456 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: Kent is hard at work. He's taken the call from 457 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: Jim in California, who's first up on Talking Cowboys. Hello Jim, 458 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: good morning, Bob, how are you? I'm good? And I'm Bill? 459 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: Oh Bill, sorry, Billings. I could see him how to 460 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: say that? How Mickey and Rob are laughing right now? 461 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: Well they should be. I made him Joe and Jeff's healthy. 462 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: Let him play five to ten snaps in the first game, 463 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: and know that we're trying to get them ready for 464 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I was looking at Indianapolis and the 465 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: first thing that jumped out at me was how their 466 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: defense is so similar to the Cowboys same scheme. Now 467 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: was hoping that maybe you guys could go around and 468 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: compare the defense to the defense unit by unit, and 469 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: who do you like on us? Maybe make an all 470 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: star team between the two defenses. Yeah, we compare. I 471 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: think that would be fun. Thanks guys, All right, thanks Joe. 472 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: I want Ricky to start nothing against anybody named Bob. 473 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: It was you know it South, Like there's a Bob 474 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: Jones Park and I can tell people that's Bill Jones Park. 475 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the joke win. It's like, oh yeah, 476 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna play against four guys named Bob. You know, 477 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys are better than the secondary when I 478 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: look at when I look at the two teams, so 479 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: I really wouldn't. I would take Malik Hooker as a 480 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: free safety on this team. But as far as anybody 481 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: else there, I think the Cowboys will have the advantage there. 482 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: I think if you look at linebacker the you know, 483 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: Matt Adams and Anthony Walker and Leonard Date Leonard Davis is, 484 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: let's gonna be Darius Leonard. I've got this now I'm 485 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: missing missing up names too. I hope he's not as 486 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: big as Yeah, exactly, Darius Leonard, I think is. I 487 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: think he could definitely play on this football to YEA. 488 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: So well, let's say you had Darius Leonard, Layton vander 489 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: esh and Jalen Smith. Yeah and they got they got 490 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard playing the week linebacker. So yeah, that would be. 491 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: So let's say Ebra Flews had um, Jalen Smith, Layton 492 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: Vanderish and Darius Leonard. How would he employ those three linebackers. 493 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Because you got two the top 494 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: tacklers in the league, you know you had to Leonard. 495 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: I could start. Leonard is as every bit as good 496 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: as Layton, vander esh is. Hey. Bill Polian obviously a 497 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame GM, and he keeps still keeps very 498 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: close tabs on what's going on in Indianapolis since he 499 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: was there for years. He I've heard him the other 500 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: day talking about Darius Leonard. Yeah, and he he fell 501 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: a little little short of going ahead and already putting 502 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: him in the Hall of Fame. But he was talking, well, 503 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: the Colts don't have a lot of members in their 504 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: Ring of Honor Hall of Fame. I think it's Chris 505 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: Hinton and Jim Harball and I get the couple of 506 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: wide receivers are probably up there. But yeah, this guy's 507 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: well on his way that way. This is this guy's 508 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: a special player. Much like Layton vanders You want to 509 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: see if you if you've seen Layton vandersch play all year, 510 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: this is what Darius Leonard is. Same type of player. 511 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: Run hit, never come off the field. Uh, plays well 512 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: in pass coverage, you know everything you want in a linebacker, range, physicality, 513 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: all that. Is this the same type of guy. Would 514 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: you take the Hot Boys over their defensive front. I'll 515 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: tell you what though, I think I would. And that's 516 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: where you know I think that to me, if you 517 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: look at across the line with Autry, Hunt, Woods and Shred, 518 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: I I you know I would. I would think that 519 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: that I would take the Cowboys and what they and 520 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: but not to say like say they're they're they're a 521 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: team that the way they they get pressure, it's the 522 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: same way the Cowboys do. They do They'll blitz with 523 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: the slots. They'll blitz with the linebackers. They'll try and 524 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: create some mismatches up front with some twist games things 525 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: that they want to do. And I've talked about Margus Hunt, 526 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: who they got from the Cincinnati Bengals. It's like a 527 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: six meter he remember from SMU Build, probably six seven guy, 528 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: and he plays as a defensive tackle and they put 529 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: him in the middle, and it's kind of like with 530 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: David Irving. You know, you push the middle, you get 531 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: your hands up, you not passes down, and you create 532 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: He's not the athlete of a David Irving, but that's 533 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: I would take the Hot Boys over this crew. I 534 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: would take their linebacker for sure, and I would take 535 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I would take Hooker as my free safety. Or one 536 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: other question on Darius Leonard, because I mean, you look 537 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: at his stat line and in twelve starts, he's got 538 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: an interception, he's got a disaccording to Pro Football Reference, 539 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five tackles. They probably got him 540 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: for a lot more on from their coaches film. Anyway, 541 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: let's find out and seven sacks, eleven tackles for loss, 542 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: four force fumbles, right for a will linebacker in that 543 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: scheme to have seven sacks, so how are they using it? 544 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: They're obviously the Russian team. Russian. Yeah. There, It's very 545 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: similar to what you see with like with with how 546 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys used Jalen Smith. You know, you attack the pocket. 547 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: It is you when when the Cowboys practice, you know, 548 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: usually with scout team, you have to hold up cards 549 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: to say, okay, this is the scheme. This is you know, 550 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys could walk in the huddle and call a 551 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: defense and on down a distance wise and call their 552 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: defense and they could run it without the cards. The 553 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: players automatically no, okay, it's it's it's overcover two. Okay, 554 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: ready break, Okay, they're getting overcovered two and they're showing 555 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: the offense. It's it's a it's similar. It's it's scary 556 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: to watch, I mean, and it's funny because Eberflus was 557 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: influenced by Rob Ryan in that administration, but now he's 558 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: a four to three guy. It's more now about with 559 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: what Ride Marinelli, what Ride Marini is doing the single 560 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: high stuff that Mickey likes to play, you know, that's 561 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: where you you know, that's where Eberflus is going. Defense 562 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: does speed speed, speed, so they have them down for 563 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five total tackles, seven sacks, eleven 564 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: tackles for losses, eight quarterback hits, an interception, four passes defense, 565 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: four forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries. So let me 566 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: ask this. When you're scheming against the defense. I understand 567 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: how you can scheme against the guys on the front right, 568 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: and I understand how you can scheme against this corner 569 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: that corner, right, How do you scheme not their system, 570 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: but how do you scheme against a linebacker like even Vanderish? 571 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: How do people say, Okay, here's how we're going to 572 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: handle Vanderish? Yeah, So how do you handle a weak 573 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: side linebacker who's not stationary? Yeah? You could be coming. Yeah, 574 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: that's the that's the problem in what you try and 575 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: do is especially in pass protection. You maybe you think about, okay, 576 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: do you set your front to his side? You know, 577 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: do you say okay, wherever he is? Do you say, 578 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: you mean, do you identify? Usually in this scheme, they 579 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: identify who the mic linebacker is. But in this case, 580 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: you maybe you identify where he is and then you 581 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: try and slide your protection. What about the running? The running? 582 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: Then you got to hope for just second level blocks, 583 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: if you get if you can, if you if you 584 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: if you could control the front with the combo blocks 585 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: and then but now it's more, it's even more imperative 586 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: to get if you're gonna do combo blocks to get 587 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: a guy to chip and then to go, and you can't. 588 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes you get, okay, secure the down lineman thousand and one, 589 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: thousand and two, and then go. It's now it's more 590 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: like chip it and go. You can't. You can't hang 591 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: there that extra count because what happens is linebackers like 592 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: vander esh and Smith, the guy at the at the Bears, 593 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: those guys all run so well that you can't hang 594 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: on down blocks, and the offensive line coaches tell you 595 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: get the down, get the down blocks first, get the 596 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: line first, and then let the back have to deal 597 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: with the linebackers. You know. That's why some of these guys, 598 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: the guy at the Rams, the guy here, they have 599 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: success because they're able to make that linebacker miss initially 600 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: and then get more yards. But you're dealing with a guy, 601 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: as you said, Mickey, that makes a ton of tackles, 602 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: kind of like having to deal with Keickley in Week one. Yeah, 603 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta make if you leave a great example, Rob, 604 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: you leave Keikle unblocked, what happens he stops you. What 605 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: should have been a seven yard game turns into uh 606 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: no gain or a minus one because you don't get 607 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: your tackle up on the second level to get him. 608 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: And that the problem in the philosophy of that scheme 609 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: is to keep that guy protected. Right, so you know him, run, 610 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: get to him, run him, run to the ball. Right, 611 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, do you run away from him, you 612 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: run at him? Well, the thing, the thing I don't 613 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: think you could just sometimes you let guys just go. 614 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: You just say, okay, he's not gonna catch the play. 615 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: This guy. You can't do that. So maybe you say, okay, 616 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you know, I'm gonna let uh one 617 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: of these outside terray is a guy that they have 618 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: Comiko touay. You know, and you know that that that 619 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: guy is. Maybe you let him run from the backside 620 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: and then go and get somebody else. You just let 621 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: your you know, you leave somebody. You really can't block everybody, 622 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: but you have to make sure you secure the guys 623 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: that are that are on the that that can hurt you. 624 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: And he definitely can hurt you. I mean it's there's 625 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: no question this game if if he goes unblocked, he'll 626 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: have just as many tackles as Vanderesh and Smith. I 627 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: mean that that's proven that you don't need a scout 628 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: to tell you that, um Danico Autry has eight sacks 629 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: in eight starts. Yeah, so he's another one. I mean again, 630 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: they move the front. This is that this is a 631 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: group that's gonna attack gaps. You know, it's it's very 632 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: similar what the Cowboys do, you know, get up the field, 633 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: attack a gap, you know, use the twist stunts. Yeah, 634 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: that's it's a it's a said it's a nice defense, 635 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: and they've done a great job because, like Rob said, 636 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of speed. They've got guys that 637 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: can run on this defense. I wonder what what's the advantage. 638 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: Is it an advantage more than an advantage for for 639 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: Eberflus to kind of know the personnel here and how 640 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: they do things offensively, or for this offense to watch 641 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: this defense on film and say, we're familiar with this. 642 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: Our defense is practice against it every day. I mean 643 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: it maybe kind of a yeah, we all stand there 644 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: in Oxnard, you know, every day, twice a day for 645 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: for a month, and they practice against that defense is 646 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: what they do. There's got to be somewhat of a 647 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: comfort level when you watch them on film, well at 648 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: least little bit a comfort level for the quarterback. You know, 649 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: think about Okay, you know it's different personnel, it's a 650 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: different you know, uniform and stuff, but it's the same 651 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: idea as the same scheme. You know, Scott Linehan could 652 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: come to this game and say, Okay, if I show 653 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: him this, this is how he's going to counter it. 654 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: This is this is how he's gonna play it, you know, 655 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: and I think that I think that helps, you know, 656 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: when they get Dak prepared this week. Okay, uh, you know, 657 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: Malik Hooker is going to be a right in the 658 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: center of the field. Okay, this is what this corner scheme. 659 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: It sees it every day, you know. So it's not 660 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: it's not something where like you're playing these old the 661 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: rob Ryan's of the world, or the old Buddy Ryans 662 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: or anybody like that that had multiple Bill Belichick that 663 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: had multiple looks and things like that. The Colts are 664 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: what they are, ye gonna I don't think they're gonna 665 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: switch up much on you. I really don't. I think 666 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: they rely on their personnel to get them stops. Do 667 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: you notice anything with this ebra flous defense that is 668 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: different from the Cowboys in terms of same being coordinator, 669 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: being more aggressive or anything. I mean, I'm looking at 670 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: a lot of players with tackles for loss. Yes, that 671 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: that that's That's kind of what we were talking about though. 672 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: The slant, the front, the twist, the things like that. 673 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna take some risks. He's gonna take some risks 674 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: during the games. But it's really it's calculator. Is I 675 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: brought up Rob Ryan for a reason, right, because if 676 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: you remember the right, Yeah, if you remember the Rob 677 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: Ryan administration, though it was ten men on the field, 678 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: it was chaos. It was you know, not being where 679 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be because he was multiple and they're 680 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: sometimes it was too complicated. Sometimes you just best to 681 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: line up and play football. And he's got guys that 682 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: can line up and play football. I mean they do. 683 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: They probably the one thing I know it's different than 684 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They probably blitz more secondary guys than the 685 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: Cowboys too. You see more of slot blitz and were 686 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: saying more of it yeah, truck exactly. But I think 687 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: you're seeing you see a lot more slot blitz and 688 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: you see a lot more of their safeties attack in 689 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the pocket too. On blitzes. You know 690 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: how they play heath up when they go single high. 691 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: We don't always see heath blitz. We see heath covered more, 692 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: we don't see woods blitz. These guys are more willing 693 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: to take that that safety that they walk up and 694 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: put him in a gap. Well, they better watch out 695 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: for those cowboy tight ends if they're going to do that, 696 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: m and you better do the same to theirs. That's 697 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: exactly right. Yeah. You know, it's interesting with Chris Richard 698 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: coming in here as in the past game coordinator and 699 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: secondary coach. Of course, Ibraflus was the past game coordinator 700 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: and linebackers coach last year, but the dynamic between Richard 701 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: and Marion Nelli is compared to what Marion Nelly and 702 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: Eberflus had here in that Marion Nelly obviously is giving 703 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: more freedom to Richard as far as but I think 704 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: he also gave some freedom to abus that happened, and 705 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: I think that years before. Yeah, I think that's why 706 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: you see Eberflus is having the success that he is having. Yeah, 707 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: or you know that you look at their defense and 708 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: you say, okay, I get I see. Mattieberflus was a 709 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: hell of a football right. I really did a lot 710 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: of respect for him. They really wanted to keep him. Yeah, 711 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: it really did, you know, and he would have liked 712 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: to have stayed. But yeah, the great opportunity job is 713 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator or something to jump at it. Give 714 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: Frank Write some credit because Frank Wright could have just said, no, 715 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I'm bringing my own guy. Remember this. He Eberflus was 716 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: part of going to be a part of the Josh 717 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: McDaniels administration. And you know, and you know, Josh McDaniels 718 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: got cold feet. They basically, you know, Matt interview for 719 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: the job. Everybody like Matt and they are hired. They 720 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: hired him, and then all of a sudden, hired before 721 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: the head coach, got hired before the head coach. And 722 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: then so who does that? Yeah, but seven but it 723 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: was done. And you know, but give Frank Raig some 724 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: credit for saying, listen, I I trust with the front 725 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: office and the people tell me about this guy, and 726 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: it's it's worked out for Reich. It really really has 727 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: trained well at the University of Missouri. M I thought 728 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about Frank Reich, and I was like, wait 729 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: a second, he wasn't there. And the Colts are seven 730 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: and six and they won six of their last seven games. 731 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: They had ride in the hot street that start. Why 732 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: did they lose all those at the beginning? Oh? Why 733 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys lose three of Well I know that, but 734 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: why did they do it? Well? There? I think a 735 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: lot of their stuff had to do with the quarterback situation. 736 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: Wasn't healthy enough is what he needed to be? And 737 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: they've got that ship righted there. This will be a 738 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: This game could very well come down to the Cowboys 739 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: ability to to be able to create some type pressure 740 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: because this this offense is very much a we'll take 741 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: what we can get from you kind of and if 742 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: you play a lot of zone, they'll just be seven 743 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: yard pass, seven yard pass, seven yard pass. Yeah, that 744 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: kind of thing. So I would be I'd be very 745 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: mindful of how do you create some type of pressure. 746 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: There's people feel like that this line, you know, and 747 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: they haven't given any sex. I think Mickey said it 748 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: was sixteen yesterday They've had games where they have given 749 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: up hits. You know, they mean to give a hit 750 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: to the quarterback and you know, but this is a 751 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: different chet, a different challenge for them. I don't believe 752 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: they played a defense well with the exception or maybe 753 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans that are that are capable of getting 754 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: that type of pressure. Early in the season, they lost 755 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: to Philly by four. They lost to Houston in overtime. 756 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: They lost it decision by rich he went for a 757 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: member on his own interfield back. And then they lost 758 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: to the New York Jets. Yeah, that wasn't a good one, 759 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: all right. So dive deeper into this little winning streak 760 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: they've had. Okay, win number one in the streak, Buffalo 761 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: win number two at Oakland, win number three Jacksonville, when 762 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: number four Tennessee, if him credit there. In fact, they 763 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: blew out Tennessee thirty eight to ten. Yeah. Then at Miami, 764 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: then they lost to Jacksonville six nothing, and then they 765 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: beat Houston. They played more quality times lately, with the 766 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: possible exception of Jacksonville. Jacksonville was a strange game for 767 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: them because they turned over the football and they went 768 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: for it on fourth and one at the one. Like 769 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: I said, they tried to run a shovel pass. They 770 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: got stuffed, so they went for it. They were trying 771 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: to get it, you know, they were trying to score 772 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: six early in the game at a zero zero game 773 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: and then but they had some turns look through an interception, 774 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: bad interception in that game too, A couple of turnovers 775 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: on the Jacksonville side of the fifty. Watching that game, 776 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: so get him turn it over. I always got a 777 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: chance to except here of the cowboys turnover the ball. 778 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: He seemed to win games, which it's kind of crazy, right, 779 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: all right, we continue with more of talking cowboys in 780 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: just a moment. If you're like me and you love 781 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have a thing, then cutting the 782 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: court is scary. But then I found out I could 783 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: switch to DirecTV Now and still get the loge sports 784 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: I love. No satellite needed, no bulky hardware, no annual contract, 785 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: just that the live sports. 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Applying back to talking Cowboys, 831 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: why do I have the perfect stocking stuffer for you 832 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: for Christmas? Get Jack Black the Playmaker. You get more 833 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: of their faves and some music loud, nice, small, he's 834 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: overly loud, and you get a put him in one 835 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: of these. Uh, cowboy, can you start over? No? No, 836 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: you're going. I'm rolling. He's rolling. Yeah, And all you 837 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: have to do is go to get Jack Black dot 838 00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: com slash Cowboys and that playmaker combination comes up. You 839 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: order it, you pay ten bucks free shipping, and already 840 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: see my first order for a stocking stuffer for somebody. 841 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 1: Nobody's get Jack Black dot com. Thanks Mike, appreciate it, Mikey, Mikey. 842 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 1: I was rolling until you guys told me I was 843 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,919 Speaker 1: too loud? Opened loud? Did it? Did? I just feel 844 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: like the music was loud but solid or in making 845 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: that he gets excited people's attention. I can't come in 846 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: here with a weak voice. You know what I ran 847 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: out of my Jack Black yesterday? Oh you know which product? 848 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: Did you? Which one? Whatever? I do my hair with shamboo, 849 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean to send you a face. I think I 850 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: got some left, I'll put you. I think I got 851 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: some much what I need is the beard loube. I 852 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: got some. Yeah, I got some extra. Oh man, I 853 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: haven't had the beard loob. You know what you knew? 854 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: You know you got a little salt and upper thing going. 855 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: Get the larger one too. Oh yeah, i'd like that. Yeah, yeah, 856 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: it did a little last year. While Yeah, it comes 857 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: to in a bottle with one of those pumps on it. Right. 858 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: Do y'all shave in the shower? Yes? Waste a lot 859 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 1: of water doing that. If you don't shave in the shower, 860 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: I should. The reason I shave in the shower is 861 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: because of the beard loup from Jack Black. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 862 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: it's great. It is great. Just put a little on 863 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: your fingertips. Okay, show us at getting there, Mickey, I 864 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: think all right, you want to dive into the Indianapolis 865 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: Colts offense for a second. Here. The strength of this offense, 866 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: Captain Andrew luck is, they seem to be rather strong 867 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: on third down there, Brian, they are strong, and a 868 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: lot of it has to do because they get in 869 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: some situations. So I talked about with Eric Ebron great 870 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: get by them from the Detroit Lions, starting to play 871 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: much like what the Lion thought he was capable. I 872 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: think it was the tenth overall pick in that draft. 873 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 1: And and so, uh, you know, he's he's totally quarterback 874 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: friendly there. You're gonna have to figure out him. Is 875 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: it the multiple coverages that we've seen the linebackers, is 876 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: it Jeff Heath Byron Jones. We'll see all kinds of 877 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: opportunities to play him, but you have to take care 878 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: of that. Their offensive line, they've built it the right way. 879 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: They've got a couple of young rookies with Quentin Nelson, 880 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 1: one of my favorite players from last year's draft, and 881 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: then Braden Smith, who was a was a guard tackle 882 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 1: at Auburn. He's the second round pick. He's their starting 883 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: right tackle. He's done a really, really nice job. They've 884 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: been a little banged up though at the right guard spot. Uh, 885 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: with with a Glowinsky there, you know, so they you know, 886 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: we'll see how that shakes out. But their center miss 887 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 1: last week, didn't Yeah, by the way, he didn't practice yesterday. Yeah, 888 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: the center Orwinsky did not practice. Center was limited limited. Yeah, Kelly, Yeah, 889 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 1: he's center is a real good center, and t Y 890 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: Hilton didn't practice. Yeah, that sounds like they're managing him 891 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: kind of like Ze probably, Yeah, because I had him 892 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: on my fantasy team and he was questionable going into 893 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: Sunday and I had made to check on him one 894 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: Sunday morning. He was fine. He went for one hundred 895 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine yards against the Texans. Yeah, he was just 896 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: he was fine. And in fact, if you look at 897 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: his last four games, he is averaging, yeah, one hundred 898 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: forty yards receiving a game the last four games. You 899 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: have to be I could say Nicola and Diami to 900 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: death and then something over the top and that's what 901 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: they did. That had a huge play against the Texans 902 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: last week on that coming off the right side there 903 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: where he just you know, they went play action and 904 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: just launched it and he was able to run under it. 905 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: So you'll have to be ready for that. It's going 906 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: to be a receiving group that doesn't have a lot 907 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: of big names. We've kind of seen the Cowboys play 908 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: against teams that haven't had They've had one star and 909 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: then everybody else has been kind of a guy. But 910 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: it's a it's a capable group. With Ryan Grant and 911 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: then also Zach Pascal as well. And then this Rogers 912 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: is another guy, mister Rogers, mister Rogers, you got on 913 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, gotta worry a little bit about him. 914 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: But they don't run the ball all that much. It's 915 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: like a lot like the Philadelphia Eagle offense where we suck, 916 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: you know last week with the inside handoff stuff you're 917 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: not gonna get. You know, luck is going to run 918 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. He's not gonna run a lot, but 919 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: you do get the inside handoff. The balls going sideways 920 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot. They're gonna try and capture the corner and 921 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: get around the edge. Keep an eye on Nahem Hines, 922 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: who is We talked about him bunch on the Draft show. 923 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: He's from North Carolina State. He's five nine, he's one 924 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 1: hundred ninety six pounds. Probably not in every down back, 925 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: but he's a guy that Micky would like to have 926 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: in this team where you could throw the ball to him, 927 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: you can hand the ball to him. He's kind of 928 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: a jack of all trades player, young guy that really 929 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 1: has done a nice job for them of making some play. 930 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: So it's a very patient offense that will take some 931 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: shots and They've got skill guys that catch the ball well. 932 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: T Y Hilton is one of the best that I've 933 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: ever seen. And I've seen a lot of players at 934 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: widershos that could play in a small area. You talk 935 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 1: about not needing a lot of room to catch a football, 936 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: whether it's along the sidelines, whether it's the corner of 937 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: the end zone, on the pylons, wherever. This guy is 938 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: one of those best tight, tight window players that I've 939 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 1: ever seen. So Cowboys secondary is gonna have their hands 940 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: full with him, and they're gonna have their hands full 941 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: as well with Eric Ebron the tight end. Yeah, as 942 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: a red zone threat too, the guy that can you know, 943 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: touchdowns something like that. Yeah, for an offense here that 944 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: has struggled scoring and manufacturing points down there, there might 945 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,919 Speaker 1: be able to have to match that this Sunday. Yeah, 946 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: you look at Luck and coming back from the shoulder 947 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: injury last year, he is putting up numbers this year 948 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: that are as good as any in his career. He 949 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: protected and protected completion percentage is sixty eight percent, which 950 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: is the highest in his career. He's got thirty four 951 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. His career high was forty in two fourteen, 952 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: So he's on a pace too, at least equal that 953 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: his interceptions are at thirteen. He's always been more of 954 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: a high interception guy, that's true. And but as you said, 955 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: his sacks are down, just sixteen sacks, and he's had 956 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,919 Speaker 1: seasons when he's been sacked forty one times a couple 957 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: of times in his career he has. And if we 958 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: go back the last team I think he played that 959 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: gave up minimal sacks with the Saints, and the Cowboys 960 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: were able to generate some pressure off that. So if 961 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: you're if you're looking to maybe hang your hat on 962 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 1: something going into this football game, you remember what you 963 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: did against the Saints, the way you affected their receivers 964 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: they're tied end and then you were able to get 965 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 1: pressure on their quarterback that way. And against an offensive 966 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: line that's one of the better ones, one of the 967 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: better ones in the league, and this one's doing a 968 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: very good job with at least with the protection aspect 969 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: of things. All right, let's go to Brian in Florida. 970 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: You're next up on Talking Cowboys. Hell O'Brien, Hey, good morning, guys. 971 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: Good to get get in touch with you guys again. Hey, 972 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: my question is on Tavon Austin. What's his role going 973 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: to be. I'm assuming he'll immediately become the returner of 974 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: replacing Beasley. Yeah, but with Cooper and the offense other 975 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 1: than just gadget plays bubble screens and sweeps, does he 976 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 1: have any role in the offense? How about a set? 977 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: How about your back? How about a backup running back? Yeah, 978 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: we've kind of we've kind of talked about what's been. 979 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know that Rod Smith has been a 980 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: guy that's always been. But maybe you know, this guy 981 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: has carried the ball out of the backfield, you know, 982 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 1: and maybe it maybe you find ways to if you're 983 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: going to take ezekiel at off the field a couple 984 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: of different ways a couple of times a game, why 985 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,280 Speaker 1: not hand the ball to Tavon Austin playing maybe a toss, sweep, 986 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, off tackle stuff. This guys shown some tremendous 987 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: toughness running the football for the Rams. But I think 988 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: he's your Desmond Howard, That's who I compare him to. 989 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: I'm thinking down the stretch in Green Bay. We won 990 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in ninety six. You had to have 991 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 1: a guy that could flip the field and Desmond Howard 992 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 1: was one of the great weapons to ever play. It 993 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 1: came to that, and I think that as much as 994 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 1: his defense is making people punt the football, you need 995 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: somebody can make you flip the field, and I think 996 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: he could do that. I would use him as a 997 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: running back. I would continue on with the jet sweeps, 998 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: the screens, whatever you have to do. This guy's an 999 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: explosive player. I think we saw that in the games 1000 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 1: that he did play. Yeah, that was our mail back 1001 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: question this morning was how do we use how do 1002 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 1: they use Tavon Austin And our answers to me, he's 1003 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: such a unique player and can do so many different 1004 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: things for you. The great skill set. Yeah, it's easier 1005 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: to bring a guy like that back and find a 1006 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: role for him because it's not like somebody has stepped 1007 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: in and done exactly what he can do. And as 1008 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: a receiver too, I mean I think he was only 1009 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,439 Speaker 1: getting about twenty snaps a game before he got throwing 1010 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: the ball to him down the field. Remember that some 1011 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: of the games. Yeah, he was making plays down the field. Now, 1012 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: this is another guy with speed that can help stretch 1013 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: the defense. Step along with the way Michael Gallup has 1014 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: stepped up and now put him on the field to 1015 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: Marie Cooper kind of see you know, make defenses choose 1016 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: put him inside of a Mariy Cooper if you want. Yeah, 1017 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how they use him 1018 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: now with a mari Cooper in this offense too. You know, 1019 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: you gotta get better time to yeeah and now and 1020 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: now how you how do you get him on the field? 1021 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's maybe it's like they're gonna have 1022 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: to keep all the guys, all those receivers active that 1023 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: they need because they all play. But maybe you're gonna 1024 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: have to look at some other positions. Oh you mean 1025 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: as far as sitting somebody down. Sitting somebody down, do 1026 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: you sit you know, do you sit to Joe Thomas? 1027 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: Do you sit Thompson the safety? Do you see? You know, 1028 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily it's gonna say, okay, do you 1029 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: sit Lance Lenore? Because Lance Lenore, I mean you have 1030 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: guys that don't play special teams or play a lot 1031 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: of special teams that are playing on you know, offensive 1032 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: and defensive roles. So you need special teams players and 1033 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: they might there might be a fight to not have 1034 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: to uh, uh to, there might be a fighting that 1035 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: won't allow you, will allow you not to have to 1036 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: sit uh Lance Lenore Well trying to say there, if 1037 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: you get Sean Leeback, you might not have to have Covington. 1038 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: Covington already doesn't dress. He didn't dress last week, then 1039 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: he won't dress. Yeah, he's been active. There's gonna be 1040 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: some healthy scratches here. Get ready and it might be 1041 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: might be read might be a healthy scratch, you know. Yeah, 1042 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: possibilities like that. You think about Joe Thomas could be it. 1043 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: Possibly I threw out, you know, Alan Hearns. Maybe as 1044 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: a healthy scratch. It depending on what you want to do. Thompson, 1045 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: the safety might be a healthy scratch. They're they're gonna 1046 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna come to the point now where you're gonna 1047 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 1: maybe David Irving would be the only guy that's gonna 1048 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: be a an injury guy that you have to deal 1049 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: with right now as a as a scratch. Wow, you 1050 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,919 Speaker 1: still got Swain Taco, Yeah, Swain exactly. Yeah, Tacos another 1051 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: guy that you know, Taco's gotta Taco's gotta practice better. 1052 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: It's gotta beat somebody out. Yep, He's gotta beat out Armstrong. Now, yep, yep, 1053 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: that's exactly Right's right, exactly right? All right, make you 1054 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes left here and then I 1055 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: have no idea. Tomorrow is a combined show, as Brian 1056 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: and Rob Will be on a combined show tomorrow nine am, 1057 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 1: nine am May and David Hellman. We're doing one show tomorrow, 1058 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 1: so we'll do our pay. Yeah. So, Mickey, you don't 1059 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 1: have any idea who's gonna win this game? I do not. Okay, 1060 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: you gotta pick? Are we gonna find you gotta pick? 1061 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and make my pick. You're gonna roll 1062 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 1: with your twelve game winning streak. Of course, I'm going 1063 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: to roll with my twelve game winning streak. There has 1064 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: been nothing in the last five games that would suggest 1065 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: that I should choose otherwise. Right, Mickey, Will has room 1066 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: booked in Atlanta. Well, I've got that book regardless of 1067 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are there or not, because it's on CBS 1068 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: this year, We're we're going to be there. Um, twenty 1069 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: five years ago we were in Atlanta. That's exactly right. Oh, 1070 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: there's another little prophetic comment there that twenty five years later, 1071 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to be back in Atlanta for 1072 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. There you go. And to do that, 1073 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,839 Speaker 1: they need to beat Indianapolis on Sunday. And I'm going 1074 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: twenty three sixteen a Cowboys victory. They don't have to 1075 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: get to twenty four this week. I just have to 1076 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: get to twenty. Well, I have to get to seventeen. 1077 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: What worries you the most about this game? Um? Andrew 1078 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:06,399 Speaker 1: luck does? But? Um? Pressure again or blitzing and all 1079 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: that stuff. A lot of sounds like they had a 1080 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: lot of sacks going on there, didn't they a lot 1081 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: of different sackers? Yeah? And um, you know this team, 1082 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have shown mental toughness in coming with their 1083 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: as they put it their backs against the wall. Well, 1084 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: now they are on the cusp of a division title. 1085 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: How do they deal with success? Yeah, and that's their 1086 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: mindset going into this game. Is a concern playing better 1087 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: on the road now too? Yeah, Whether I'm really worried 1088 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: about this game? Yeah, go ahead, Mickey, close us out 1089 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: with twenty six twenty three Cowboys? All right, all right, 1090 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: twenty three work last week for me. I'm gonna stick 1091 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: with it, Okay, expecting that guy to make a field goal. 1092 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: You can get to twenty six other ways. Yeah, some 1093 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: of us will talk. You sound like tomorrow you can 1094 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: miss an extra point. Join us them are please. This 1095 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 1096 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club