WEBVTT - Teams That Benefit From The New CBA 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.200 Besides the Lakers and the Warriors. What teams do you 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.640 think this deficits the most? And what teams do you 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.280 think this benefits the most. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.239 I think the teams that can get kind of dinged 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:23.960 by this a little bit are teams like the Celtics, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.040 the Bucks, teams that have been they've been in the 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.560 tax but they're never been at the you know, the Warriors, Clippers, 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.600 Lakers levels of the tax. So I think that's where 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.080 seventeen point five million over the tax line, that's a lot, 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.720 but it's not like crazy. Right now. I think we're 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.560 sitting with six teams above that. So we may see 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.919 those teams say, all right, we gotta let probably not 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.040 one of the star guys, but we got to move 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.080 on from one of these kind of mid mid range 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.080 salary type players just to rebalance. We have flexibility because 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:00.120 otherwise it's we're really locked into this roster. Teams that 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.120 are maybe a little older, so like Dallas is slightly 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.920 older with some parts of their roster, so like they're 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.080 in a tricky spot. The Buck's definitely older with parts 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:11.840 of their roster. They may look at it like Chris 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.840 Middleton is gonna be a free agent, and they may say, hey, 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.840 we resigned Chris Middleton to a four or five year 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.840 max deal or anything close to that. This is it. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.600 This is our team for the next you know, several years, 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.760 unless we make trades. And they may say, all right, 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.199 you know he's had injury issues. Maybe they've seen something 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.840 in his play where they're like where we'll be Okay, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:34.959 we'll go a different direction. So I think they're gonna 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.520 be different. I think the teams that benefit it's the 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.080 teams that I think have pretty promising young cores and 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.280 then can add to to those guys here while they're 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.919 still on the lower end salary wise. So I already 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.640 mentioned Oklahoma City, but our landows in that boat, Houston 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.720 and Detroit. If they can flip things, well, somebody's gonna 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.920 get Victor Webbin Yama. That's like already a huge you know, 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.520 add to your roster and you're gonna flip. The Spurs 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.520 have generally been pretty smart in those situations, so they 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.560 may be able to turn things around. So I think 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.840 those teams that have pretty good young cores that you 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.120 can see I can see that being a playoff core 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.520 in the next couple of seasons because what they have 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.960 the ability to do is go add talent to those 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.320 groups before they get super expensive and fully lock into 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.200 what they have now. So I think they're the kind 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.119 of teams that will benefit a little bit here. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.320 Even if they tried to go after a big free 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.400 agent and they didn't have the salaries to match. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.720 Yeah, I think so because they think what you're gonna 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.359 see in those like again, I keep using the Thunder 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.200 as an example here, but it's because they think they're 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.200 the best one in the league. Really good young players, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.239 pretty full roster, right. They don't have a ton of 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.880 roster holes. It's not like going into this summer they 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.480 have to fill ten roster spots. They really only have 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.280 about two or three open roster spots. They're gonna have 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.840 almost thirty million in cap space to do it with. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.200 So I think back to remember a few years ago 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.600 when Philadelphia was like, all right, it's time to start winning. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.800 They went out and they signed j Reddick to a 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.400 one year, nineteen million dollar deal. There was like, what 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.000 a ridiculous overpay for JJ Reddick. Well, Philly looked at 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.440 it and said, look, we only need like two guys. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.160 We have all this cap space. Let's give a whole 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.640 bunch of money to JJ Reddick, who proved to be 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.239 a really good fit, help them get into the postseason, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.840 and then that's how we're gonna do it. I think 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.960 you're gonna see Oklahoma City say there's one guy that 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.919 we really target, we think fits what we need, and 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.799 they'll be able to go get that guy and they 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.520 may be able to overpay him for a year or two. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.080 As long as you do it for a year or two, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.680 not the end of the world, because the NBA just 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.760 moves so quickly with the way they'll turn over rosters. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.080 As long as you're not locking into a terrible deal 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.560 for four or five years, you're gonna be fine. You'll 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.240 be able to move on from it and get out 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.720 of it quickly enough. So I think that's what you're 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.400 gonna see as teams like that do those kind of 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.600 things where it's like, all right, let's let's let's kind 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.880 of go here, and I think you're gonna see some 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.200 free agents. They're gonna look and say, oh, that team 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.160 got one Minyalla, all right, I can be the guy. Now, 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.040 me and him, we're now taking this team to the 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.240 next level and to the playoffs and all that and 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.960 a lot of these players they love nothing more than like, Hey, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.600 I'm the conquering hero who like you know, I wrote 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.280 in here and you were awful and now we're a 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.880 playoff team, you'll shower me, you know, with love, and 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.600 it's yeah, you were a part of it. But there 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.960 are other reasons too. But that's something that you know, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.360 we know, free agents love, especially if the money's basically 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.039 the same just about everywhere for them. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.360 Yeah, like a veteran contract for someone who you think 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.240 can be a table setter all while like what they 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.919 with the thunder kind of gotten Chris Paul on a 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.080 short term deal, kind of a deal. I am curious though, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.480 because this feels the most murky, and it feels the 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.960 most murky in terms of conflicts of interest potentially, but 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.400 also murky in terms of we don't really know now 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.240 players are going to be current players are going to 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:53.000 be able to invest in NBA and WNBA teams. But 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.400 from what I kind of can gather that this is 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.760 only happening through the NBA PA selected private equity firm, Like, 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.560 what are the logistics of that? 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.719 Yeah, it seems so. This is something I try not 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.800 to speak too in depth about things I don't really understand. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.240 But I did a lot of asking because I was 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.600 very confused on this because I was like, wait, so 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.479 they're gonna because the way it initially came out was 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.359 like they could get ownership stakes. And my initial question was, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.840 so if I play for the Lakers and I own 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.719 three percent of the team and they trade me to 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.960 the Rockets, what happens to my three percent? Like where 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.240 does that go? And then I think, through conversations through 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.840 subsequent reporting, my understanding is what's going to happen is 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.680 it sounds like there's going to be portions kind of 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.000 carved out of different places within the league as a 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.560 whole and within the individual teams inclusive of the WNBA 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.360 as well, where players will be able to say, hey, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.119 aportional what you're giving me in my next contract. It'll 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.800 run through the through the NBPA, who will manage it 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.000 as a collective, through whoever they choose to manage it. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.280 Probably no different than a lot of the ways are 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.640 like four oh one, k's a run and those kind 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.200 of things, But it'll be we've chosen them to run this, 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.800 and then that's where it'll be. Hey, as long as 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.680 we all keep doing what we should do. This should 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.039 be a rising tide lifts all boat situation where yeah, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.080 the teams are gonna go up in value, they're gonna 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.320 be better, but my stake in this is gonna go 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.080 up too, And I have more of a stake, and 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.560 I feel like more of a partner with the league 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.320 and with the teams as opposed to just a contract 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.760 employee where I'm just you know, all right, I'm under 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.039 contract and this is what it is, it's gonna be. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.719 We can really push this up from here. So I 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.440 think that's gonna be kind of how that works. I'm 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.960 very curious to dive deeper into that when we get 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.719 the actual CBA to understand it more fully. 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.880 I am curious too, And obviously you probably don't know, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.560 but the first thing that comes to mind, outside of 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.440 just what teams are going to be in that fund, 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.920 is it going to be every team? What happens when 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.719 teams get sold? Do they distribute that wealth across the 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.360 ownership group? But also like how that affect the WNBA. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.320 Do we see the WNBA salary cap now explode and 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.840 invest in more of these young and up and coming players. Specifically, 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.080 you're watching players like Angel Reese and Kaitlin Clark bring 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.680 in three and a half million viewers on TV. I 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.640 guarantee you Kaitlin Clark's not gonna want to get paid 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.240 Twitter and seventy thousand dollars on a super Max deal 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.800 which he makes like quadruple vet in ni own money 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:25.240 right now. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.520 Yeah, for sure. I think what we're going to see 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.800 with the WNBA, and we've we're starting to see this 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.760 happen little bits, like little incremental bits, is salaries are 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.000 going to start creeping out more. I think we're also 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.960 going to see probably expansion of the WNBA where there's 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.840 going to be new franchises because the single thing, the 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.000 biggest thing I hear is there's a ton of you know, 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.960 really good players out there that are buried on these 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.960 benches because there's so few WNBA teams in comparison. So 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.440 what happens is I think you combine those two things. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.760 And I know one of the big that they be 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.840 talking to different people within the NBA as kind of 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.680 the governing body of the WNBA, if you will. One 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.000 of the big things I've heard through them is we 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:17.240 don't want WNBA players to have to go to Russia 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.440 in the WNBA offseason to play. We want them to 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.800 play in the WNBA, them play national team commitments just 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.320 like NBA players do, and that's it. We don't want 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.960 them having to play in two professional leagues just to 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:30.840 be able to make a living. Like that's not where 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.000 they want it to be. And I think EVENTUA will 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.560 get there. And I think this is part of it. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:39.079 We've seen countless NBA players, especially more in the recent years, 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.160 come out in support of the WNBA. So I think 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.120 part of it is you're going to see them. Hey, 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.600 why they got roped into this is I'm not just 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.640 investing in the NBA. I'm investing in the WNBA, in 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.000 the game of basketball as a whole. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:57.920 Yeah, I'm curious also about the the players who are 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:04.360 now able to sign non gambling endorsement deals with sports 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.720 betting companies. Makes sense of that for me. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.280 Yeah, this was one where I saw a lot of 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.079 reaction where people were like, oh no, and it I 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.839 saw a couple people tweeting like the Tony memes from 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.400 Blue Chips, you know, of like you what do you 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.120 mean you took money? You know, and it was you know, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.439 it was only one time coach, you know, and it's 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.680 one time. And like, I think where this would be 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.640 a problem is if player X you know, tweets out, hey, 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.720 bet on me to get over twenty points tonight. That's 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.560 where it's like, oh, that's shaky, right, because then it's 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.960 because then is it going to be you know, the 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.920 gambling company says, hey, you know, we took way too 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.440 many people betting you over can you score nineteen? Just 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.480 to make sure we're all okay here, Like, that's where 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.439 it gets real messy. I think it's probably just gonna 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.120 be hey, you want to bet bet with you know, 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.880 this company, and that's just going to be the ext 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.560 That's what I think it'll be. It maybe extends into 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.160 you know, hey, you know I can't bet on the NBA, 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.800 but I love to bet on you know, uh, the 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.640 NFL or you know, well whatever it is, or you know, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.720 whatever it may be no games or whatever. Yeah, exactly. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.920 I think we're going to see things like that where 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.200 it'll be a player will be into commercials for you know, 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.439 one of the big companies, But it's not going to 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.040 be specific to like, hey, bet on my team to 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.320 win the championship or anything like that, because I think 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.319 then you run into competitive integrity issues and all sorts 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.320 of stuff. Then they don't think the NBA wants to 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:34.920 be involved in. 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.679 Yeah, I was curious about that too. Do you think 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.959 there's a possibility we start seeing these quote unquote endorsements 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:46.520 like almost like Manning cast type stuff where you've got 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.320 like a Draft Kings has a Draymond Green and a 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:55.160 Charles Barkley All Star Weekend second Screen experience, or maybe 0:10:55.200 --> 0:11:00.560 now fan duel sponsors, you know, the podcast p type 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.000 of a thing. Yeah. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.360 I think we could see definitely things like that because 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.680 I think the NBA realizes they're smart at the end 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.880 of the day, and the MBPA. There's money to be made, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.400 so let's go make more of it, right, Let's go 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.839 get our chunk of it. By Hey, if we can 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.800 increase these things, and we can do that. I mean 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.800 we're seeing in arenas all over the country, we're popping 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.920 up these you know what you know we're gambling is 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.520 legal sports books. It sounds like right on site where 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.360 it's like, hey, you can make your bets here. And 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.600 I know in the states where it's legal, there's all 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.040 sorts of stuff being pumped into you know, hey, grab 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:34.760 your phone and you'll make it bet on the game 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.320 and those kind of things. So I think we're going 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.240 to see them lean into this. I don't think it's 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.320 going to be you know, man, this is a proliferation 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.760 of a million guys, you know, go gamble. I think 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.960 it'll be probably just a little bit of a slow burn, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.240 but eventually it's gonna get there, much like it has 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.240 become over the last couple of years, where it's just 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.679 becoming more and more ingrained in the everyday life of 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:57.480 sports fans. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.320 I forgot to ask you this to circle back really 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.080 fast about the ownership element, and we'll move forward on 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:09.079 the award stuff. But is it possible with how we're 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.880 seeing the ownership stake work that a Lebron James playing 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.760 in the NBA could own an expansion team or a 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.800 part of an expansion team. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.040 Yeah, it's one of those things where right now I 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.400 don't think think that's something they're set up to do. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.840 So we're gonna see if that's where this goes. My 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.760 guess is this whole invest in the league is a 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:38.360 gateway to direct ownership stakes in teams, and I think 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.640 that maybe where this goes going forward. I mean, I 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.480 think it was I'm going way back here, and you know, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.480 a completely different environment. But when like Magic Johnson came 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.680 out of retirement, it'd give up his ownership stake in 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.960 the Lakers because he was gonna play again and those 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.600 kind of things. So that's where it becomes pieces of 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.520 things like that where I think right now, now that's 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.840 probably not They're trying to do it through this more 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.040 general investment in the league as a whole. But I 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.520 think this is the let's start here and then that'll 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.920 be the gateway too. Eventually, Hey, you want to own 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.440 a chunk of the team you're playing for, Yeah, we 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.120 can make that work, and we can figure that out. Obviously, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.360 there's gonna have to be a lot of guardrails on 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.720 that because you know, if you're tradable, if you sign 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.760 somewhere else, what if you do this, because they're not 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.040 gonna have somebody owning you know, Hey, I own three 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.960 percent of seven different teams, Like, that's not gonna happen. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.160 But we'll see where that goes. And and I think 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.520 that's a very interesting way to kind of, you know, 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.520 build a different form of engagement into the franchise as 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.120 a whole, because now you're again, you're you're not just 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.680 an employee, You're you're you're part of it, right, You're 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.520 you're part of the whole deal all the way through. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.720 Yeah, I want to talk about this because I think 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:54.240 it's under discussed. The players now in this new CBA 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.040 have to play at least sixty five games to be 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:03.080 eligible for any NBA as as well as all NBA. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.200 So who wanted this? 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:14.520 Yeah? I think this is probably one where collectively both sides, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:19.080 the NBA and MBPA heard the screaming about load management. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.440 And I think the biggest place that comes in is, 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.960 you know, I'm based out of Orlando. It's the Orlando 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.280 fan who bought tickets to see Lebron one time a 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.480 year and I played last time. I'm not playing tonight. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.800 Right in Orlando, they get a lot of guys on 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.240 back to backs because of Miami. They make the Miami 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.240 Orlando trip and they're on one end or the other, 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.960 and that's how it goes. So I think what we 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.280 see in these positions is I think a lot of 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.320 these these it just gets so loud that it was 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.720 probably a we got to do something. Now I can 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.600 tell the NBPA they've stood up and screamed from the rooftops. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.520 It's not the players. The players do not want to say, right, 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.680 if they're healthy, they generally want to play. It's the teams. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.760 And they're not saying the teams are wrong in this, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.320 but it's the teams that are mostly making these decisions. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.360 And that's that's what I think also gets lost a 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.240 little bit here is I think it's hard to right. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.600 The teams are the permanent part in your life as 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.560 a fan, right, And that's a nice way of saying 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.360 we root for laundry. But I think that's true to 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.640 an extent of like, I'm always going to root for 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.440 this team, and the players may change, so I'm not 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.920 necessarily going to attach to the player. And now I 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.280 think we're seeing different forms of fandom where some are 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.280 attaching to a player, and then player changes teams, they 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.040 follow right along with the new team. But I think 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:44.800 what's happened here is the overall load management blame has 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.120 fallen so much on the players, and I don't think 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.880 that's necessarily there now. I think what the league's trying 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.880 to do is say, hey, can we curb this because 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.520 teams are now down to somewhere between twelve and sixteen 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.560 back to backs per season, So sixty five games you 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.040 want to see all the back to backs? One half 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.600 of them, you're good, sit them out, you don't have 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.320 to play, and you'll still qualify and still be eligible 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.000 for postseason awards. I think it's more of and I'm 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.360 very curious because all the reporting keeps coming with there's 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.120 conditions around it. But what are those conditions? Like what 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.840 does that mean? Is there like, well X amount of 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.000 games that the team determines the player can't play, like 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.000 those don't count. I don't know how that's gonna work, 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.080 but it's one of those things I'm very curious to see, Like, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.840 you know, what happens, and we all know there's gonna 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.000 be a massive uproar the first time somebody has a 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.160 great season but only played sixty four games, and people 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.880 are gonna absolutely lose their minds and they'll be you know, well, 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.200 they were the real MVP or they were the real 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.400 first team player. So I don't know, but I think 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.720 this was a first attempt at Hey, let's try to 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.880 get these guys on the court more often, and then 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.360 we'll see how it comes together. I kind of have 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.120 my doubts that's gonna be how it plays out. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.360 Yeah, and I saw that. I believe it was last night. 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:04.480 Kawhi Leonard only played a half because he's playing ago, Yeah, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.760 two nights ago, because he was going to play on 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.120 a back to back, so do you. And also remember 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.760 Draymond Green, he came in for one possession to be 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.680 there for Clay and then that obviously changed a lot 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.960 of things for sports Better took who took Draymond Green 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:25.360 unders because they heard whispers of this is that something 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.320 that you think is how teams or players are going 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:29.800 to try to skirt the rules. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.760 That's where I think the conditions may come in because 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.000 the league doesn't want to turn it into a circus 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.400 and a farce of like, hey, you know tonight fifteen 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.280 star players checked in or started and then they all 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.200 subbed out on the first whistle because it was just there. Now, 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.040 like Drew Holliday did it last year. The Bucks put 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.080 him in a game for I think it was like 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.640 eight seconds or whatever. He played the tip, he committed 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.440 a follow and to get out of there to earn 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.800 a bonus because he needed to hit the games played 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:01.240 threshold for his bonuses. Now that's cool on the Bucks part, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.200 because all it did was cost them a couple million 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.520 bucks that they wouldn't have to pay out otherwise. So 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.800 geel good on the Bucks for taking care of their guy. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.439 But I don't think the league and I don't think 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.960 the Players Association either wants it to turn into a 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:15.840 bunch of guys are on the core and then they're 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.159 subbed out early. But I think what you may see 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.600 is you may see, huh, why did so and so 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.240 only play fifteen minutes tonight? And that may be what 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.840 we see more of is because I think if it 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.280 becomes a whole thing where we want to make sure 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.800 player access still eligible for is you have awards, all right, 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.360 Well we can't sell them out right away because if 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.240 you play under X minutes, maybe that's one of the 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.360 conditions it doesn't count or something like that, and you're 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.639 just you know, subbed without an injury. We'll have to 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.560 see or you know, if my worry is, if you 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.960 start saying there's injury related conditions, we're gonna get back 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.800 to the old days of up back spasms. They're they're 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.560 out tonight, right, and that's that's not great either. So 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:59.199 I'm kind of withholding judgment on all this until we 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.399 see what all the details are, because it just seems 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.760 this one seems like a little there's just got to 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.600 be other stuff going on with this, because it just 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.240 seems a little too cut and dry for me to 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:10.240 be quite that simple. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.480 Yeah, I'm very sus on it because it does feel 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.040 like there's a lot of ways to get around it. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.879 I think Joel Embiid would have not made Defensive Player 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.560 of the Year twice. I think Draymond as well Steph 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.680 Curry All NBA. And do you think that this will 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:33.080 obviously change How does this help teams in some way too, 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.480 because they say to themselves, all right, well, we don't 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:40.320 have to pay Jalen Brown super max because he's not 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.560 an All NBA player, so we can resign him for X, 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.440 Y and Z instead of being hamstrung to pay him 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:47.199 forty million. 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:49.920 Well that's where it's kind of become a major problem, 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.360 and you'll have the MVPA screaming. Is if are were 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.560 in game seventy eight of the season and oh man, 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.280 he's almost there, All right, let's set him out or 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:01.879