WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Magic Sword

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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<v Speaker 3>And I am Joe McCormick. And today on Weird House Cinema,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to be talking about the nineteen sixty two

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<v Speaker 3>fantasy adventure The Magic Sword starring Basil Rathbone, directed by

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<v Speaker 3>bert I. Gordon, the director of another film we've covered

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<v Speaker 3>on Weird House Cinema at least one other. Gordon was

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<v Speaker 3>the director of Attack of the Puppet People. Also known

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<v Speaker 3>as Mister Big Big his initials, he was well known

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<v Speaker 3>for shrinking and blowing up things in his movies, either

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<v Speaker 3>making little things big or making big things little, and

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<v Speaker 3>we get some of both in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. One of the things about The Magic Sword

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<v Speaker 2>from nineteen sixty two is that it is a special

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<v Speaker 2>effects spectacular. You're gonna there's so many special effects coming

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<v Speaker 2>at you, some of them very noticeable and and others

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<v Speaker 2>you can easily take for granted, especially today, where you

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<v Speaker 2>know various things like, for instance, the magic mirror that

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<v Speaker 2>we see in the movie. You know, it's an impressive

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<v Speaker 2>special effect, and it's it's one of just many, many

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<v Speaker 2>special effects that are used to create this magical world

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<v Speaker 2>of love and happiness, but also horror and mutilation.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Bert Eye Gordon was well known for making sort

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<v Speaker 3>of low budget, B grade movies, movies that a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people would would call hack but or in many

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<v Speaker 3>ways quite enjoyable. You know, the King Dinosaur and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that, movies that ended up on Mystery Science Theater

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<v Speaker 3>three thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>As did this one.

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually never seen that episode, but this, from what

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<v Speaker 3>I understand, is widely regarded as one of his best movies,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can see why it it has it still

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<v Speaker 3>has some of the hallmarks of his other stuff. Like

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<v Speaker 3>it has some i would say, texturally or tonally inappropriate

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<v Speaker 3>special effects that actually do look pretty good, but they

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<v Speaker 3>don't fit the vibe of the movie. Like the movie

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<v Speaker 3>is ostensibly, you know, sort of a fun, magical adventure

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<v Speaker 3>almost maybe aimed at a younger audience, aimed at kids,

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<v Speaker 3>but it also has just absolutely unnerving, almost perverse gore

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<v Speaker 3>in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would compare it in a way to Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson's King Kong in that respect. You know, moving made

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<v Speaker 2>by you know, a consumant pro somebody that also had

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<v Speaker 2>a great lot of experience with the special effects creating

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<v Speaker 2>a film that is aimed at a very wide audience,

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<v Speaker 2>very mainstream audience, but ends having some moments of just

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<v Speaker 2>extreme horror or well, I don't know. In the case

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<v Speaker 2>of The Magic Sword, it might be a bit much

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<v Speaker 2>to say extreme horror, but still are that does seem

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little out of pace with the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the picture, and seems to have been out of pace

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. I mean, there were some seemingly strong

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<v Speaker 2>reactions to this. I was reading that upon initial release

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<v Speaker 2>the British Film Board gave it an X rating. They right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>you were not having any of this. And later, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some things get adjusted and it comes out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like if you imagine Disney's The Sword

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<v Speaker 3>and the Stone, but if it included a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>close ups of nights being melted by acid and radiation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, And in that, you know, radiation

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<v Speaker 2>is a hallmark of other bird Eye Gordon pictures and

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<v Speaker 2>that element is at least visually present in this that

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's calling it radiation.

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<v Speaker 3>But another one of the things that I would single

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<v Speaker 3>out this movie for is it has some deliciously hammy

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<v Speaker 3>performances especially the ones from Estelle Wyndwood and Basil Rathbone

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<v Speaker 3>as the two main sorcerers in the movie, they are

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<v Speaker 3>hamming it up. It's some all time ham here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of other bird Eye Gordon films don't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily have as strong of human performances, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a film that really has the human special effects at

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<v Speaker 2>least in a couple of roles to match up with

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<v Speaker 2>the the the actual special effects. So yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it is a really solid, enjoyable picture, and yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>is often sided just one of Burnye Gordon's best.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm trying to think, have we done another high

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<v Speaker 3>fantasy movie on weird house with like knights and wizards

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that is the closest we've come to that, Krull.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, I mean we did Crawl. I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>you could. You could also think of another sword. You

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<v Speaker 2>can think of a thrilling, bloody sword, though that's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit different. We of course did Conquest, uh so uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I imagine I'm forgetting one or two. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we do touch in on the the epic fantasy of

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<v Speaker 2>different shades now and again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a I guess all of those have elements

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<v Speaker 3>of this, so so I would say all of the

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<v Speaker 3>weird grotesque texture aside, which makes this movie wonderful. Just

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of straight plot content, this is the most

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<v Speaker 3>down the middle high fantasy we've done, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet there are a number of just real bonkers elements

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<v Speaker 2>to it that are going to be fun to get into,

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<v Speaker 2>like just in terms of like, yeah, like the textures

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<v Speaker 2>are all sort of traditional mainstream fantasy, but some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that the screenplay does with it I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up really admiring. All right, So what would your elevator

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<v Speaker 2>pitch be for the magic sword?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Can I not do sword in the stone? But

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<v Speaker 3>with radiation melting? I guess we already said that. Let's see, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Olid, we can stick with it, stick with what works.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me try another one. Let's say George A an

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<v Speaker 3>adventurous young lad of only twenty years old fus It's

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<v Speaker 3>debatable in the movie whether he is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>understood as a child or not. At the age of twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>he falls in love with the princess without ever having

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<v Speaker 3>met her. He just like observes her through magical TVs

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<v Speaker 3>of various sorts. Then she is kidnapped by a wizard

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<v Speaker 3>and he must come to her rescue and brave seven

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<v Speaker 3>perils and curses along the way, and it's gonna be gross.

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<v Speaker 2>The curses are all amazing. The titular magic sword is

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<v Speaker 2>probably the fakest looking thing in the whole picture. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it is kind of weird that, like, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>selling point. And the poster says the most incredible weapon

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<v Speaker 2>ever wielded.

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<v Speaker 3>So funny because yeah, it does not look incredible. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the least good props and effects in the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks very flimsy, very plastic. It's the sword is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of lame.

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<v Speaker 2>Its special power is set manipulation, and it fails halfway

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<v Speaker 2>through the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that is funny. It has the power to

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<v Speaker 3>open doors. Wow. But you know what I do like.

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<v Speaker 3>I like a version of the sword that completely misrepresents

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<v Speaker 3>what it's like in the movie. The I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>either the Italian or the Spanish poster for the movie

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<v Speaker 3>La Spada Magica that makes the sword look really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's glowing. I don't think it ever really

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<v Speaker 2>glows like this. And you also have a great image,

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<v Speaker 2>a great drawing of Basil Rathbone has Lodak in the background,

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<v Speaker 2>looming large.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, should we do some trailer audio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do that trailer audio.

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<v Speaker 4>I am Sir George, possessor of a magic saw, my his powers.

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<v Speaker 4>I will lead you on the sun great adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>Each one might hear the leon.

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<v Speaker 4>Together we will go where no man has ever gone,

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<v Speaker 4>into the land of terror itself, where the superman of

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<v Speaker 4>evil is king. Let no man race my seven cousins

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<v Speaker 4>and reached the dragons. Together we will dare the demon

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<v Speaker 4>of the green Flame. See the white hot face of

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<v Speaker 4>the fiery rock. Enter the mammoth cave that closes behind you,

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<v Speaker 4>where humans are trapped and tombed. Brave the volcanic inferno

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<v Speaker 4>of the boiling crater. See the miracle of the magic Sword.

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<v Speaker 4>Battle the gigantic ogre.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 4>You will be thrilled to the hill by the magic sword.

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<v Speaker 4>None like it since the world began two thousand year

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<v Speaker 4>old legend Hollywood waited until now to tell the Magic Sword.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So you might be wondering at this point, well,

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<v Speaker 2>where can I watch the magic Sword? Well, it is,

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<v Speaker 2>at first glance, widely available. You know you can. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find the mst through K version. I think Riff

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<v Speaker 2>Tracks did a version of it. You know, usual caveats

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<v Speaker 2>on on riff content. You know, it's like it can

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of fun and so forth, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>are going to lose some scenes, especially in the MST

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<v Speaker 2>three K episodes. And I have to say, even though

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<v Speaker 2>this one looks like it's streaming everywhere, I initially like

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<v Speaker 2>marked it to stream on a on a prime channel.

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<v Speaker 2>I went and queued it up, started watching it terrible quality.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up having to watch it kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>last minute. I found a YouTube stream that was in

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<v Speaker 2>higher death and so I have to say my main

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<v Speaker 2>recommendation for watching The Magic Sword is make sure you

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<v Speaker 2>watch it in as good a quality as possible, because again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a special effects film, and if you watch

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<v Speaker 2>it in high depth, it looks really nice, has some

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful colors and textures to it, and that's just lost

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<v Speaker 2>in the grated version. I would recommend grabbing it on

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<v Speaker 2>physical media. Kale Studio Classics put it out on Blu Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably the way to watch it. If

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<v Speaker 2>you can find an official stream that's good quality, great,

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<v Speaker 2>but it looks like a lot of them are not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, there are a lot of kreuddy rips

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<v Speaker 3>out there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's get into the cast and crew here,

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<v Speaker 2>or some of the highlights of the cast and crew.

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<v Speaker 2>As usual, we can't highlight everybody that made the picture happen,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, starting at the top, Bird Eye Gordon, director, producer,

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<v Speaker 2>story credit, special visual effects, along with his wife, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>and he lived nineteen twenty two through twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>the legendary mister Big, as we've been saying, an icon

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen fifties B cinema. His earliest credit is producer

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<v Speaker 2>on fifty four Serpent Island, and he moved on into

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<v Speaker 2>the director's chair and the writing chair with his follow up,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five's King Dinosaur. We talked about him a greater

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<v Speaker 2>length than our episode on the fifty eight film Attack

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<v Speaker 2>of the Puppet People. Other films of note include the

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<v Speaker 2>amazing Collossal Man from nineteen fifty seven that I think

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<v Speaker 2>we absolutely will do if we get a proper release

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<v Speaker 2>of it and I can watch it in decent quality

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<v Speaker 2>Earth Versus a Spider from fifty eight, Village of the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants from sixty five, an Empire of the Ants from

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<v Speaker 2>seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Did we ever figure out what's going on with the

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<v Speaker 3>rights to Amazing Colossal Man, Like why is there not

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<v Speaker 3>a good Blu Ray of that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the answer I checked in. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>checked in recently on it either, so it's entirely possible

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<v Speaker 2>something's been announced and I haven't missed it. I try

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<v Speaker 2>and pay attention to the various channels and so forth

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<v Speaker 2>that would announce this sort of thing, but sometimes it

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<v Speaker 2>slips through. I have no idea, Like Amazing Colossal Man

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<v Speaker 2>is such a tremendously fun movie that it needs to

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<v Speaker 2>have a proper Blu Ray release, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's holding that back. Far lesser films are getting elaborate

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<v Speaker 2>Blu Ray releases.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed, And I do want to emphasize again I sort

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<v Speaker 3>of said this up top, but despite Bird Eye Gordon's

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<v Speaker 3>reputation and the dullness of some of his other movies,

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<v Speaker 3>this one is I would say this is a well

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<v Speaker 3>made film like it just it's got energy. It just

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<v Speaker 3>zips right along, and it's fun even if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>in it. For the weirdness of the texture is the

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<v Speaker 3>way that we are. I think you're probably not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be bored by this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the plot moves right along, and yeah, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to give credit. Screenplay credit to Bernard see Schoenfeld, who

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<v Speaker 2>lived nineteen oh seven through nineteen ninety American screenwriter. His

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<v Speaker 2>first screen credit state back to nineteen forty four's Phantom Lady.

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<v Speaker 2>His other credits include fifty eight The Space Children. That

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<v Speaker 2>was one directed by Jack Arnold, who've talked about on

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<v Speaker 2>the show before, and he did a lot of TV work,

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<v Speaker 2>including sixteen episodes of Alfred Hitchcock Presents, and one episode

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<v Speaker 2>of The twilight Zone from Agnes with Love about a

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<v Speaker 2>computer technician who begins to take advice from a computer

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<v Speaker 2>that he has fallen in love with.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, is that the original Twilight Zone? Oh that's original?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I should stress that because I know there

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<v Speaker 2>have been like thirty or four different iterations of the

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<v Speaker 2>twilight Zone at this point. This was original Twilight Zone

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<v Speaker 2>and also original Alphad Hitchcock Presents, because there were at

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<v Speaker 2>least two different versions of that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I didn't realize they were doing fall in

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<v Speaker 3>love with the computer stories back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean the various sci fi writers

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<v Speaker 2>and horror writers of the time, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff was. It still holds up today, at least

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<v Speaker 2>from a plot and script standpoint. Yeah, so yeah, on

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<v Speaker 2>the whole, I love the weird energy and the interwoven

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<v Speaker 2>schemes in this picture. We'll get into all that again.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on a lot of the textures of traditional

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<v Speaker 2>old timey fantasy films and likely swashbuckling fantasies as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just not that up on But the plotting

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<v Speaker 2>feels pretty fresh and at times really bonkers.

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<v Speaker 3>It does bring just like warm jets of zaniness that

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<v Speaker 3>just keep coming in anew. There are multiple things in

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<v Speaker 3>the movie that, you know, I almost kind of wonder

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<v Speaker 3>if they were actually in the script, or if it

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<v Speaker 3>was in the original draft of the script, or if

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<v Speaker 3>it was just like bird Eye Gordon Floor Gordon saying

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<v Speaker 3>we can do this kind of effect. What if we

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<v Speaker 3>had some people trapped in a tiny cage, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what if we had this or that and they just

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to show it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So here it is. Yeah, and this is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who figured out how to weave all that together into

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<v Speaker 2>a coherent plot, because yeah, it has like all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things, like it seems like he maybe had a

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<v Speaker 2>checklist to work with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we've already done the attack of the puppet people.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just put some puppet people in.

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<v Speaker 2>There, people giants of some sort. Yeah, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into the cast here. As we mentioned, oh, we

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<v Speaker 2>have the wonderful Basil Rathbone in this playing the evil

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<v Speaker 2>and vain wizard Lodac. We talked about Rathbone before. He

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<v Speaker 2>lived eighteen ninety two through nineteen sixty seven, South African

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<v Speaker 2>born English actor with a very long history on stage

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<v Speaker 2>and screen. He popped up in sixty six is Queen

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<v Speaker 2>of Blood, but I have to say, yeah, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>was in it, but very forgettable because he It's difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to compare that Basil Rathbone to this Basil Rathbone because

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<v Speaker 2>we get like full powered, you know, hamming it up

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<v Speaker 2>Basil Rathbone in this picture, and what we saw in

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of Blood was a lot more subdued.

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<v Speaker 3>I truly did not remember he was in that. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember Dennis Hopper more than him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't think rath I think ratt was

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<v Speaker 2>one of those pictures where Rathbone did his stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>like one or two days. He's just an ultimately very

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<v Speaker 2>small role in the picture. But in this, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he's in almost every scene.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in some scenes he's not in in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, his energy resonates through the picture. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get in all the details, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He started appearing in films during the early twenties, often

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<v Speaker 2>in Swashbuckler's always you know, Buckling that swash. He stayed

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<v Speaker 2>active on stage, won a Tony Award in nineteen forty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was nominated for two Oscars I Believe nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine's If I Were King and a nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven adaptation of Romeo and Juliet. He also had a

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<v Speaker 2>big footprint in horror and detective series. He played Sherlock

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<v Speaker 2>Holmes multiple times, and he played Baron von Wolf in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty nine Son of Frankenstein, the third Universal Frankenstein film,

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<v Speaker 2>with Carloff and Bella Legosi.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Rathbone was sort of on the second

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<v Speaker 3>tier of the great horror stars. If you have like

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<v Speaker 3>Karloff and Legosi at the very top, that the level

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<v Speaker 3>under that is where Rathbone hangs out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So yeah, tremendous talent, and again we get to

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<v Speaker 2>see him firing on all cylinders in this picture. Very

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<v Speaker 2>energetic performance, just captivating. And also, you know something that

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<v Speaker 2>I think is always admirable when you have an actor

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<v Speaker 2>of this caliber is that he does seem to bring

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<v Speaker 2>a little extra out of the other players in their

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<v Speaker 2>shared scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, in every scene he's in, it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like the other actors are having fun with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I would say some of the most fun

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<v Speaker 2>we have is when you have has interactions with our

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<v Speaker 2>next actor, and that's Estelle Wynwood, who plays Sybil, the

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<v Speaker 2>which foster mother of our hero, Sir George.

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<v Speaker 3>She has her own kind of excellent handiness. So Rathbones

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<v Speaker 3>Hamminess is, Yeah, like you said, he's this arrogant, vain,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, pompous wizard who's who's just like can't stand

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<v Speaker 3>to have his ego pricked. Meanwhile, Stelle Winwood's sorceress is

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<v Speaker 3>she's like very checked out. She's almost like half of

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<v Speaker 3>her brain is not on this plane of existence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, she's been raising this twenty year old boy

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<v Speaker 2>all by herself, and she doesn't get a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>help from the chimpanzee or the the conjoining twins or

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<v Speaker 2>two headed I'm not sure exactly what's going on with

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<v Speaker 2>that character. But these these folks are not helping her

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<v Speaker 2>out a lot around the house. And clearly, as we'll

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<v Speaker 2>discuss Sir George, it's is a lot to handle. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so she she can't have she doesn't have her head

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<v Speaker 2>in her scheme all the time. And it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's also established early on, like she's not the best

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<v Speaker 2>witch or wizard in the world. You know, Lodak is

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<v Speaker 2>a towering figure and she rates you know, a good

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<v Speaker 2>bit down the list. But still she's a good witch ultimately.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's not afraid to get her hands a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Dirty, that's right. Well, unlike Lodak, she has the power

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<v Speaker 3>of love in her corner.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. So. Stelle Winwood lived eighteen eighty three through

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty four English actress of stage, screen and TV,

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<v Speaker 2>who had a very long and celebrated history career here

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<v Speaker 2>in the US. She made her Broadway debut in nineteen sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>In her first film roles in the early nineteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 2>but some of her biggest, most memorable films were from

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<v Speaker 2>the fifties and sixties, including nineteen fifty nine's Darby O'Gill

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<v Speaker 2>and the Little People. She plays the mom of the

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<v Speaker 2>town bully pony, who of course gets into at least

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of punch ups with Sean Connery. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen that. It's it's tremendous fun. I mean, Stell was

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<v Speaker 2>great in it, and then everyone else is great, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just a really fun, you know, old timey

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<v Speaker 2>Irish fantasy film.

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<v Speaker 3>You've brought it up before as the I think in

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<v Speaker 3>the context of being a pre Bond Sean Connery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I highly recommend it. It's great Saint Patrick's

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<v Speaker 2>Day viewing in my opinion, or at least you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up watching it on Saint Patrick's.

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<v Speaker 3>Day anyway, Okay, I'll have to see it sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>But Winwood was also in nineteen sixty four's Dead Ringer,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven's Camelot as well as the producers both two

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<v Speaker 2>huge films in sixty seven, and her final film role

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<v Speaker 2>was in nineteen seventy six, is Murdered by Death. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, when it comes down to interactions between Sybil

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<v Speaker 2>and Lodac, they're so much fun. Even when they're not

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<v Speaker 2>actually in the same space at the same time. They

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<v Speaker 2>have a wonderfully spicy interaction just via closed circuit magic

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<v Speaker 2>mirror at one point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, despite the fact that, I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a silly movie and it's hard to get too wrapped

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<v Speaker 3>up in the you know, in the battle of good

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<v Speaker 3>and evil in the plot here. But nevertheless, I did

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<v Speaker 3>find her defeat of Lodak at the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>movie very satisfying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, all right, let's move on to Sir George,

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<v Speaker 2>who again Sybil has been raising as her foster son,

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<v Speaker 2>played by Gary Lockwood born nineteen thirty seven. Former stuntman

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<v Speaker 2>and stand in for Anthony Perkins. He's probably best remembered

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<v Speaker 2>as doctor Frank Poole in nineteen sixty eight two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and one A Space Odyssey. You know, we've talked before

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<v Speaker 2>about actors from two thousand and one A Space Odyssey

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like classing up the joint in pictures. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that in Gorgo right. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't quite get the same effect with Lockwood's presence here.

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<v Speaker 2>This one man he plays he plays a real goober,

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<v Speaker 2>a lovable goober, and a young boy of twenty He

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<v Speaker 2>was actually I think twenty four to twenty five filmed old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there are other weird We'll get into some

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:07.480
<v Speaker 2>of the other weird aspects about his character. What sort

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<v Speaker 2>of home environment he has here in this Witch's Layer.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's weird, but it's kind of sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's sweet. He's sweet anyway. Lockwood had a

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<v Speaker 2>memorable guest role in the third episode of Star Trek,

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<v Speaker 2>the original Star Trek, the episode where No Man Has

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<v Speaker 2>Gone Before from nineteen sixty six. I believe he's a

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.199
<v Speaker 2>crew member who gets possessed by an alien force. His

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<v Speaker 2>other credits include sixty one Splendor in the Grass, the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty three Elvis movie It Happened at the World's Fair,

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.680
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty nine's Model Shop, in nineteen ninety five's Night

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.400
<v Speaker 2>of the Scarecrow, also in the nineteen sixty one Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>movie Wild in the Country.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, what happened at the World's Fair?

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 3>What was it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know. I meant to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to my aunt to who's an expert on all these

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Elvis movies, and ask her about these two and find

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<v Speaker 2>out if these are good ones or not. I had

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<v Speaker 2>not heard of either of them, but I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>the chance to reach out to her, So I have

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up the thread on that in listener mail.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna choose to believe the Elvis movie It

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<v Speaker 3>Happened at the World's Fair is about the HH Holmes murders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure that's it. All right, we have we've

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<v Speaker 2>been talking about Sir George. Of course he's gonna he's

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.920
<v Speaker 2>fallen in love with the princess. The princess is Princess Elaine,

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<v Speaker 2>played by Anne Hilm born nineteen thirty eight. Her biggest

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<v Speaker 2>film was probably the nineteen sixty two Elvis movie again,

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<v Speaker 2>follow that Dream, And I cannot tell you what the

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 2>dream in question is, but this is a movie about

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<v Speaker 2>following it. She's also in the nineteen sixty nine horror

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 2>film Nightmare in Wax, starring Cameron Mitchell as the mad

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<v Speaker 2>wax Master. This one I have seen. This is how

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<v Speaker 2>my movie viewing history tends to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we talked about this one in our episode

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<v Speaker 3>on wax. Well, we did an episode on like the

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<v Speaker 3>science of wax, but then also talked about wax horror movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is one that fels very grimy and sweaty.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember a lot of close ups of Cameron Mitchell's

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 2>face looking kind of sweaty.

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:07.679
<v Speaker 3>He's got an eye patch in it.

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the one where he has an eye patch.

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Not the best Wax movie, but still very much an

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 2>important entry in the wax Master franchise.

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.959
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to beat Vincent Price's House of Wax.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the absolute best.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, maybe we should save this for later, but I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to say it now so I don't forget.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we should do a compare and contrast

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<v Speaker 3>on Vincent Price versus Basil Wrathbone, because I feel like

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 3>they have a lot of qualities but also some hard

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 3>to define differences that are nevertheless important.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, well, yeah, I feel like Vincent Price was better

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 2>at conveying kind of like the the internal mechanisms of

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>his scheming, you know, whereas wrath Bone, especially in this

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<v Speaker 2>there is a sense that he's he's not considering you

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 2>much at all. Like his enemies, He's very dismissive of

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>their abilities, you know. That's his level of vanity and arrogance,

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 2>at least as he plays it up in this character.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like in you know, certainly Vincent Price

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<v Speaker 2>could play some vain and evil characters but there was

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<v Speaker 2>always a sense that no, he wasn't he wasn't underestimating

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 2>you per se. He was thinking long and hard about

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 2>your various strengths and weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's right. Yeah, that's very astute. I would

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 3>say if Vincent Price had been in this role, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you would have played it a little bit colder

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<v Speaker 3>and would you would have seen him taking the stock

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<v Speaker 3>of George and his allies more than just kind of,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, batting at them like a gnat that's bothering him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he would have seen Sybil as more of a

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<v Speaker 2>rival and not as an ant. He seems to see

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<v Speaker 2>everyone as just mere pieces on the chessboard.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but hey, Basil Rathbone is not the only bad

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 3>guy in this movie. We actually get multiple Hammi villains.

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 2>That's right. We have Sir Brandon, who is a romantic

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 2>rival for the princess's heart and a seemingly brave knight

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 2>at first, but we get a series of twists that

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<v Speaker 2>reveal that no, he's not here to make friends, he's

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 2>not here to play fair. He'll do whatever it takes.

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 2>He's here to kick you in the acid, Yes, kick

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 2>you in the button, make you fall on the Acid,

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<v Speaker 2>played by Liam Sullivan, who lived nineteen twenty three through

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, very very fun character, and the

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 2>performance here provides I think, a nice dry counterpoint to Lodac.

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, like you're not gonna have You can't have

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>two villains that are going for that level of hammed

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 2>up villainry. This is the right level for your secondary villain.

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess you're right about that. I did identify

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 3>him also as a hammy performance, but it's in a

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<v Speaker 3>different way than Basil Rathbone, not at the same level,

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.640
<v Speaker 3>and it has a different quality. It's more kind of sneering.

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 3>It has a sneering, snidely whiplashiness to it.

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, still solid villain for sure. Sullivan was an

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>American actor of TV and film. I'd say mostly TV.

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 2>He did episodes of Star Trek Original, Twilight Zone, Original

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Man from Uncle, and his film credits include sixty Five's

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>That Darn Cat, eighty four is What Waits Below, and

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty six film Wisdom all Right. The next

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>character is credited as Mignonette. I don't remember if they

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<v Speaker 2>call her this in the film. She's a seducer, a witch.

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>We find out some sort of a hag creature.

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 3>The false magical mask of a witch that is used

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 3>to seduce a knight who is French. And they explain

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 3>this in the plot. They're like, well, he's French, you know,

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 3>so he's into pretty ladies. So she is the pretty

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 3>lady form of the evil witch who wants to bite

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>his neck and I don't know, drink his blood maybe,

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure.

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Blood blood there for sure. Yeah, And she falls into

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>some of the other schemes of Lodak as we see.

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>But she's played by Nielle de Metz born nineteen thirty eight,

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.959
<v Speaker 2>French born actress who worked in American film and television.

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<v Speaker 2>She appeared in nineteen fifty nine's Return of the Fly,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, if you haven't seen, you might remember

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>from the Misfits song, and she had a small part

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>in Blake edwards nineteen sixty eight film The Party. Mostly

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 2>active in the sixties and seventies, she was nominated for

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 2>an Emmy for a special guest part on The Man

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>from Uncle in nineteen sixty four.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe I've seen Return of the Fly. Does

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<v Speaker 3>she become a fly?

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just I haven't seen it either,

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 2>have just seen stills in which a fly headed man

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 2>is approaching her and she is screaming. Well, so, I

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 2>don't know if she's like the main heroine of the

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 2>picture or if she's just like an early victim. I'm

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 2>not entirely certain, but there are a number of stills

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>of her in the picture.

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Nobody likes to get cornered by a flyhead guy at

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>a party?

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely not all right? And then finally, the score

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>is by Richard Markowitz, who lived nineteen twenty six through

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety four. Emmy nominated composer best known for his

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>work on such TV shows as Murder. She wrote Mission Impossible,

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 2>though I knew do need to stress that he did

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>not write the theme music for either of these series.

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>He's the father of singer Kate Markowitz, who also worked

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>as a backup singer for such artists as James Taylor,

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Randy Newman, Katie Lang, and Warren Zevon. Her two thousand

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and three solo album was Map of the World. But

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>as far as as Richard Markowitz's work goes, there are

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of places in this score that are very traditional

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 2>highlighting either like the sweeping mainstream drama of the thing

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 2>or some nutty high jinks, nutty magical hijinks. But it

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>also gets weird and I believe electronic at times. There's

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>some nice suspense in a later cave scene, and there's

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>this wonderful Sibylis cooking sequence that features an absolutely bonkers

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 2>track full of bleeps and bloops and monster croaking. It's fabulous.

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a nice mix of things. So in the

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 3>traditional end, we've got the you know, the King of

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the Castle horns bump bump, bump, bump bump kind of stuff,

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 3>and then we've also, yeah, in the funny scenes, we've

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 3>got plenty of doom do Doom do doom. But I

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 3>know what you're talking about with the experimental moments. Yeah,

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 3>I liked those parts.

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Well let's jump into the plot of

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the Magic Sword.

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.479
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well after the credits. The credits just are

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 3>pretty straightforward. They're like red credits playing over a painted

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>backdrop that looks like Saint George slaying the Dragon, which

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 3>I suppose is loosely the inspiration for this movie, but

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I would place emphasis on loosely. The action opens with

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 3>a shot of a witch's layer So there's a bubbling

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>cauldron and a table with a polished human skull as

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 3>a centerpiece, and it's all saturated in red light. This

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 3>movie really likes the red gel lights, especially in Sibyl's

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 3>sort of fortress of magic.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, she has so many red gels going in there.

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like a dark ring. You would think, yeah, she's

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 2>developing an Eastern Kodak film in there or something.

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 3>So we pan up and we meet Estelle Winwood as

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Sybil the Sorceress. She's wearing kind of a sorceress dress

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 3>with like the big dangly open sleeves, and she's got

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 3>jewels around her neck and all that. She looks very magical,

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and she's talking to herself. She says, he's gone again.

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 3>What good is my sorcery if I can't help my

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 3>own boy? Answer me someone? So like, who's there to answer? Well,

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 3>we're going to pant around the room and see. First

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 3>of all, we've got a chimpanzee dressed in a red

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 3>tunic and a leather belt who's sitting at a chair

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 3>at the dinner table here. He has no input, He's

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 3>just sitting there scratching his head. And then Sybil says,

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 3>he's not fooling me. I know where he is. He's

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 3>at the magic pool again. Now commenting on that, we

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 3>suddenly hear from Sybil's other I don't know, like her

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 3>coworker or friend or help her here, which is a

0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 3>two headed man who's two heads say simultaneous lee, love

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>is his curse. He is in love?

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I noticed about the two headed man here

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 3>is that the way that the two heads here they

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 3>behave in a way that sort of defeats the purpose

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 3>of imagining this, this creature with two heads, because they

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 3>always say the exact same thing at the exact same

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 3>time in unison.

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well, I assume that they've just worked together

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>for a very long time and it just had to

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 2>They had had to come together in agreeance on a

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>number of things here, because we don't know the origin

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>of this character or characters, I mean, she might have

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>made them through her sorcery at some point or another.

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Sybil says, yes, I've tried to cure him of

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 3>this love? Why have I failed? Am I losing my

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 3>skill as a sorceress? Doesn't my witchcraft cure snake bites

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>chill Blaines, carbuncles, pink eye, hangnails, and unhappy memories. And

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to imagine who is coming to sibyls like

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 3>red Witch Cave and the chimpanzee and saying I have

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>pink eye.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the movie kind of like cut to

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the chimp when she said pink eye, and it was

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>like implyed that, like this chimp is just can pink

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>eye like crazy, like every week having to cure this

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>chimp with pink eye.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 3>But her two headed friend here assures her, yes, her

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 3>powers are still strong, so why can't she cure her

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 3>son George of his love infection. She sort of argues

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 3>with the two headed guy about this that they say

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 3>George is a man and he's human, so you know

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>he's going to fall in love, but she says he

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 3>is not a man. He is only twenty years old,

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 3>which means he is still a child. She obviously does

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 3>not approve of his decision to grow up. At first,

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand what this whole thing about, like her

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 3>repeatedly asserting that a twenty year old is a child.

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.719
<v Speaker 3>But I think it's because she is an immortal sorceress

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 3>who is I think she says four hundred and twenty

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>years old, So compared to that lifespan, it's like, oh, yeah,

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 3>he is a child.

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he should not get the keys to the

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>car until he's like at least sixty five.

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.479
<v Speaker 3>So meanwhile, we go to meet George at the magic

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>pool that Sybil was talking about. So he's leaning over

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 3>the water's edge, the water's bubbling, and he starts begging,

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 3>begging the water to show him the princess. So first

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 3>we see a castle, and then we cut inside the

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>castle to the throne room, where like the whole court,

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 3>the king is sitting there on the throne holding his scepter,

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 3>wearing his crown, and then everybody in the court is

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 3>gathered and they're just watching a belly dancer perform. Yeah,

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>nothing going. Princess is not there. Everybody's just like a

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 3>good show.

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Good. I mean, he apparently spends a lot of time

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>just watching, spying on the castle so that he can

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 2>see the princess that he's in love with. Yeah, this

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>is our first hint at like the idea that George's

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.479
<v Speaker 2>whole upbringing is just weird, Like he's he's grown up

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 2>in this magical crypt. He has access to all of this,

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, privacy defying, magical pools and mirrors and so forth,

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and then gets fixated on people he's never met.

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 3>That's right, and the privacy violations get worse because he's like,

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 3>all right, she's not in the throne room. Show me

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 3>the pond in the palace garden where yep, that is

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 3>where she is. In fact, she's bathing in the pond

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 3>there with her lady in waiting, hanging out and like, dude,

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 3>respect the princess's privacy please, But you know he's just watching. Yeah, yeah,

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 3>so this is Princess Helene. She gets out and starts

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>talking to her lady in waiting, and she's talking about

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 3>how she's upset with her situation in life. She's like,

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, even though I'm a princess, I'm unhappy because

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not allowed to fall in love. Essentially, she can't

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 3>even speak to a man, she can't meet people or

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 3>talk to them. She's sort of like kept away apart

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 3>from the world in a tower. And she tells her

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 3>lady in waiting, quote, you can do whatever you please,

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.919
<v Speaker 3>fall in love, fall out again, a squire one day,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a stable boy the next, and the lady in waiting

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 3>does not take offense to this. She's like, it's the

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 3>cost of being a princess. But suddenly a voice calls out. Oh,

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 3>it's like a ghostly, otherworldly voice. It says Princess Helene.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And she looks around and then sees the kind of

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 3>insubstantial figure moving toward her. It's like the figure of

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 3>a lady with a green veil over her head, some

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of fairy like queen. And this lady is coming

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.439
<v Speaker 3>toward her, and she says, Princess, I'm going to take

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 3>care of you, and then her eyes flash green and

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we ever see this lady again. Do

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 3>we have no idea who she is?

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean presumably it is some sort of agent

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>of Lodac, but not someone that is named or featured later.

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 2>This is also a great scene where the ghost is

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.240
<v Speaker 2>coming right at the camera, right out at the audience.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>And there are a number of moments like this in

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.320
<v Speaker 2>the picture, because again, this is all about special effects.

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 2>It's about thrilling the audience and so Bert's come and

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 2>ride at you.

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.480
<v Speaker 3>This movie would have been a great candidate for three D.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm kind of glad it's not three D

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 3>because I enjoy it in the two D format, but

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 3>it has a lot of stuff coming at you. Could

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 3>have been a three D option for sure. So anyway,

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:23.879
<v Speaker 3>George witnesses this magical fairy abduction of the princess through

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.280
<v Speaker 3>his magical spy pool. He jumps up and he shouts Helene.

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Then he runs back home to Sybil and explains that

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 3>the princess is in danger and he's got to go

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 3>rescue her at once. But Sybil is very dismissive of this.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Her points are the following, You're only a boy, You're

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 3>not old enough to be in love. You can't be

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.240
<v Speaker 3>in love with somebody you only saw in a magic

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 3>pool and have never met. That's a good point, and

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 3>also just basically, like I love is silly. But I

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 3>guess they're like, well, we'll get some more information. So

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 3>she takes George over to her magic mirror, which is

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 3>yet another long range magical surveillance device. And this sad

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 3>me wondering, wait, why did George have to go use

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>the magic pool if they've got magic mirror at home?

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, I guess it's like sometimes you know, you

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>have like two TVs in the household, you know, perhaps

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 2>so the dad can watch football and the kids can

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 2>watch cartoons. It's like she has witching stuff she needs

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 2>to do. She can't have George in the way spying

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 2>on princesses the whole time.

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 3>She's got to call into her sorceress Zoom meetings. Yeah,

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 3>so Sybil tunes into Throne Room TV and she sees

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 3>the King, presumably done with his belly dancing session. He's

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 3>talking to his court about his daughter's disappearance. Now in

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 3>the scene, we're going to meet a couple of other

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 3>major characters, Sir Branton and Lodak. Sir Branton we meet first.

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 3>He is this haughty, arrogant, goateed knight wearing a blue

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 3>tunic with a blazing sun emblem over the top of

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 3>his mail, and he explains to the King that Princess

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Helene cannot be found anywhere. And while they're in the

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 3>middle of discussing what to do, suddenly a palace guard

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 3>enters the throne room escorting Basil Wrathbone. Basil Wrathbone here

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 3>is dressed in a black sorcerer's robe with a golden

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 3>dagger at his belt. He's got a giant jewel encrusted

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 3>pendant on his chest. He's wearing a red and silver

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 3>cloak with almost Santa CLAUSI implications. He's also wearing some

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of wound cloth head covering. I don't know if

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 3>this technically is a turban or is supposed to be

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 3>a turban, or if it's something else. Everything he's wearing

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 3>pretty much has gold trim on it, and he just

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 3>looks really smug.

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, very smug, very colorful. Yeah, it's a fabulous

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 2>presentation and just absolute confidence oozing off of them. Here.

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 3>The guard is like, we found him skulking on the

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 3>castle grounds. He won't speak, and Sir says there are

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 3>means to make him speak. So I love that Branton

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 3>is going straight to suggesting torture with no information whatsoever

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 3>on the sky. But also, look at him. This guy

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 3>is going to speak. You can look at him and

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 3>know he's about to speak. You don't need to worry

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:17.720
<v Speaker 3>about him not speaking.

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Also, I'm gonna have to ding the script here, or

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 2>at least the way the script was performed, because this

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 2>is not a character that has ever skulked in his life.

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>This is no sculptor. I think you mean to say

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 2>vainly awaiting his audience with the king.

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you skulking, I think requires a down a downturned

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 3>angle of the head, like you know, the head is

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 3>sort of down, but this guy's chin has never even

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 3>like been parallel with the ground. Right. So Basil raises

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 3>his arms up. He stirs up some kind of magic.

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 3>The lights go dim, thunder cracks, and he says, your

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>most serene majesty, you can call off the search the princess.

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Your daughter is in my castle under lock and he

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 3>So the king demands to know who this sorcerer is,

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 3>and he answers Loadak. So they know who this is.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 3>They know him by reputation. He is a bad sorcerer.

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's not Lodak the Great, the terrible. Just all

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 2>you need to know is Lodak. It's great branding.

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but I imagine I always imagine

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Lodak's name when I heard it here as an acronym,

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 3>like it's all capital letters. I don't know what it

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 3>stands for.

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, lord of damnation, and I don't know. Pick

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 2>a sea word and you got it, I think.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.280
<v Speaker 3>So they ask him, you know, why did you kidnap

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 3>the princess, and Lodak says, this is the quote. The

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 3>answer is very simple. Your father executed my sister for

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 3>witchcraft when she was only eighteen years old. I have

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 3>waited until your daughter reached that age so that my

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 3>dragon could relish the flesh of the princess. I don't

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 3>know if that's very simple. It's moderately simple. I guess.

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 3>So Lodak has a dragon. He's going to feed the

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 3>princess to the dragon to get revenge on the king's family,

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 3>or so, he says.

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I don't even know if we should believe him.

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 2>This never comes up again. He doesn't seem to be

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 2>dwelling on this too much, and Lodak doesn't seem like

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 2>a sentimental type.

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it seems like if some king executed his sister

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 3>for witchcraft, he'd be like, shouldn't have gotten caught. But

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 3>in reaction to this, Sir Branton, he's coming out hot.

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 3>He says, I'm not afraid of some warm eatn sorcerer.

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 3>I'll come straight to your castle and rescue the princess.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 3>But then Lodak warns them all. He says, look, it's

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.959
<v Speaker 3>not hard to find my castle. It's right down the road.

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>It's a week's journey from here, but between here and

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 3>there you'll have to face Lodak's original recipe of seven

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 3>signature curses. No one has ever passed through all seven

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>curses and survived. Then he explains that his dragon is

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 3>going to eat the princess in seven days time, and

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 3>he starts to show himself the door by the way

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 3>he like. He turns and starts walking toward the door,

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 3>toward the camera with his arms just raised up in

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 3>the air, and then suddenly he changes course and then

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 3>turns into a crow and flies away. That had me

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 3>laughing out loud.

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:09.760
<v Speaker 2>It's so showy, it's wonderful.

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Also, right after this that I did a still frame.

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 3>You can look out here Rob the King and Sir Branton,

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 3>they have this look on their face, just like okay,

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 3>but anyway, Sir Brandon, he's still saying he's going to

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 3>save Helene. He says he does not care about the

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 3>seven curses. For Helene, he would face seventy curses, and

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 3>the King promises him that if he succeeds, he will

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 3>receive half of his wealth and the princess's hand in marriage. Meanwhile,

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 3>back in the Witch hole. George and Sybil have been

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 3>watching all this in the magic mirror. I kind of

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 3>forgot about them while the scene was going on, but

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I guess we've been watching what they are watching. And

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.399
<v Speaker 3>George is not happy. He's mad. He does not want

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Sir Branton to save Helene. He does not want Sir

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Branton to marry Helene. He's the one who loves her,

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 3>even though than never met. So he begs Sybil to

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 3>let him go rescue the princess, and Sybil is like, nonsense,

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 3>you are only a child. So here we're about to

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 3>get some backstory. First of all, we learned that three

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 3>hundred years ago, Sybil's father and brother were eaten by

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 3>Lodak's dragon, and they were excellent sorcerers, so Lodak is

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 3>far too dangerous for them to face. She says, I

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 3>fear him almost as much as I hate him. And

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 3>after all, while Sybil is a sorceress who is hundreds

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 3>of years old, George is a mortal and still a child.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.319
<v Speaker 3>And we're also told that this is not framed as

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 3>a revelation. It's just more like, as you know, George,

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 3>when you were only a week old, your royal parents

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 3>died of the plague, and then I took you in

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and raised you as my own son. And we learned

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 3>that Sybil has been a kind and loving mother to George,

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.399
<v Speaker 3>but being an ancient sorceress, she doesn't get him because

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.399
<v Speaker 3>he's mortal, so she doesn't really understand that humans are

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 3>not children at the age of twenty.

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, he's a difficult age right now. But

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, it I think there's a lot

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>of evidence to support the idea that Sybil has just

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 2>had to do a lot of guess work in how

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 2>to raise a boy, a mortal boy like he seems

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>like maybe he hasn't been as exposed to like other kids,

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 2>growing up into a wider world. He's had maybe a

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 2>little bit too much access to magical items, and she's,

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 2>as we'll see, you know, kind of spoiled him a

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 2>bit too. So again it makes for this George ends

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 2>up being this very weird hero in this picture because

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, he doesn't have the same sort of origin

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>story introjectory that you would expect of your Dragon Slayer character.

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 2>He's lived a very privileged in many ways upbringing, but

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>also a very there's been a lot of deprivation in

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.399
<v Speaker 2>his upbringing, it seems. Yeah.

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Also, this is where we get the scene where

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 3>he's really he's moping. He's upset because of you know,

0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 3>her denials here, and then she tries to cheer him

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 3>up by turning into a panther. But she doesn't do anything.

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 3>It's not like she turns into a panther and I

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 3>don't know, like spins plates on her head or something.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 3>She just is a panther. And then she's not.

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>That should be enough.

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I can't do that, That's true. I can't either. What

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 3>am I gainsaying this for? Yeah, okay, she turns into

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 3>a panther and doesn't do anything, But that's that's pretty impressive.

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 3>But he says, mother, not that trick again, Like she's

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:33.360
<v Speaker 3>like blowing raspberries on his belly or something. Anyway, this

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:37.879
<v Speaker 3>leads Sybil to take George on a She like takes

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.839
<v Speaker 3>him down into a kind of dungeon to show him

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 3>the birthday presence she's going to give him next year

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 3>when he turns twenty one. And these presents include a

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 3>magical white stallion called Bayard that is faster than any

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 3>horse on earth, a magical suit of armor that cannot

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 3>be pierced by any weapon, and a magic sword that

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 3>has a name. I was trying to hear what I

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 3>think it's called Escalon, which that sounds right, okay. Escalon

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 3>defies all swords in battle, neutralizes black magic, and it

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 3>can open or close any door, portcullis, or portal with

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 3>a touch.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 2>So basically, she's like, George, you're gonna be a level

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 2>one character, but I have three legendary magical items for you.

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 2>That's just right out of the gate. You're going to

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 2>totally destroy these cobonts.

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a level one fighter with the with the

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Saber of Doors, I guess. Yeah. Oh. Also, George just

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 3>starts like groaning with pleasure when he holds the magic sword.

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 3>He's like, Oh, it feels like it's part of my

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 3>own body. Also in the room, she just happens to

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 3>mention these are not presented as part of his birthday presence.

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, oh, yeah, those six night statues there

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 3>against the wall, these are the six most valiant knights

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 3>in the world, which were turned to stone by Sybil's brother,

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 3>which makes me wonder, Wait a minute, was Sibil's brother

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:07.879
<v Speaker 3>a good sorcerer? Or a bad one.

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, Yeah, it sounds like maybe he was the

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 2>bad sort, because these are six noble knights that were

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 2>evidently defeated, imprisoned, you know, made eternal servants of this

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Witchcraft family. Yeah. I think there's a lot to suggest

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>that this is not a beneficial fate that was bestowed

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 2>upon them.

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 3>But here George comes up with a clever trick. He

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:38.800
<v Speaker 3>manages to trick Sibyl into going down into an enchanted

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 3>sub basement to I don't know what he did, just

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 3>to go down there and look at it, I guess.

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 3>And then as soon as she goes down ahead of him,

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 3>he taps the stone trapdoor of the access to this

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 3>basement and it closes behind her, trapping her inside. Now

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 3>he's free to go save the princess.

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said, barries his mama so that he can

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 2>god and pursue his love.

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Seems kind of cruel, Yeah, But also they do. I

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 3>feel like they drop a few things to emphasize that, like, oh,

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 3>she is an immortal sorceress, so it's not like she's

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 3>gonna die of thirst down there or anything. But she

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 3>still doesn't like it.

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, you scamp.

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 3>So he then uses his sword to unfreeze the knights

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 3>because I guess they were frozen by black magic. And

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 3>we're going to meet all the knights in the next scene.

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 3>But they wake up, and then there's one with a

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 3>French accent who is like, oh, thank you. But here

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 3>we go straight to a scene another scene in the

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 3>throne room room of the castle, where at the beginning

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 3>of the scene it's just like a repeat of what

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 3>we already saw, like Sir Branton is promising to rescue

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 3>the princess, but at this point he kneels in front

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 3>of the king he makes this solemn vow to rescue her,

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 3>and the king is like, hmm, that's a strange ring

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 3>with a picture of a dragon on it. Sir Branton, Well,

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 3>let's not pay any attention to that. They are interrupted

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 3>by George, who is now calling himself Sir George. He

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>barges into the throne room. He's dressed in his magical armor,

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.759
<v Speaker 3>he's got his magical sword, and he is accompanied by

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 3>his six unfrozen cave men lawyer knights, and they all

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.720
<v Speaker 3>introduce themselves and show off their accents. So we've got

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:22.240
<v Speaker 3>and they're they're each like from a country of Europe.

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 3>So the strange thing about this is it's not set

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.240
<v Speaker 3>in like an alternate land. It's not you know, Middle

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Earth or something. It seems to be set in Christian

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Europe in Earth. So we have Sir Denis of France,

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 3>they say, Dennis. I don't know if that would be

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Deni in real life, but Sir Denis of France, Sir

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Pedro of Spain, Sir Patrick of Ireland, Sir Anthony of Italy,

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Sir James of Scotland, and Sir Ulrich of Germany, and

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 3>they all sort of like say a hello in their accents.

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 3>The German Knights. Sir Ulrich said he looks at the

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:57.719
<v Speaker 3>king and he's like mine Kaiser.

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's actually the voice of Paul Freese, the noted

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 2>voice actor who worked on such things as The Bullwinkle Show,

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 2>The Last Unicorn and just tons of of of various

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 2>animated shows of old like he was in you know,

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 2>The Return of the King, The Flight of Dragons, you know,

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the Frosty Snowman specials and so forth.

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:21.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh I did not know.

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's a he's a frequent name and all

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 2>of those.

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, here we get some conflict because Sir George is

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.359
<v Speaker 3>he shows up, he stands next to Sir Branton. He's like, yeah,

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm also going to save the princess, and I'm also

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.440
<v Speaker 3>going to marry her. And Sir Branton doesn't like this.

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 3>He tries to fight George. George doesn't want to draw

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 3>his sword, so Branton strikes first, but just ends up

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 3>shattering his sword on George's magical armor. And eventually the

0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 3>King he's he literally says, I like these knights. So

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 3>he decides, well, they're all going to have to go

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 3>save the princess together. They'll have to work together, George,

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 3>the six Knights, and the scheming creep Branton.

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The King sort of reminds them here that, like,

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 2>actually the important thing is saving her from the wizard.

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 2>We're getting a little sidetracked in the whole, like who

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 2>should get to marry her things? Yeah.

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Meanwhile, at Lodak's castle, we are going to check

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 3>in with the princess. Now, Princess Helene is being taken

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 3>to her cell and there she meets a couple of

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 3>other princesses who are sisters. And this scene sort of

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 3>suggests that Lodak is running like a full time princess

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:42.319
<v Speaker 3>dragon feeding operation. Like he's processing incoming princesses on a

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 3>bi weekly basis, so he always has some princesses in

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 3>the hopper when he feeds the ones that have already

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 3>been there to the to the dragon. So I think

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 3>he's like seasoning them in the dungeon while the dragon

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 3>eats the ones that have been there already.

0:51:57.640 --> 0:51:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it also makes me wonder are there attached

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:03.879
<v Speaker 2>skins for these princesses as well that result in some

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 2>sort of revenue income or magical item income. Yeah, it

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 2>seems like a big operation because this is not some

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 2>dusty old sorcerer. This man has a fabulous wardrobe, He

0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:19.240
<v Speaker 2>has a big cut castle to upkeep, He has various

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 2>pets and curses to take care of. You know, you

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 2>gotta stay busy to keep that afloat.

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 3>It is indicated that that he asks for ransom. He

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:31.360
<v Speaker 3>doesn't for Princess Helene because he says that she is

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 3>a special case. But what we're led to believe is

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 3>that normally, yeah, he's got princesses coming in all the time,

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:39.319
<v Speaker 3>and he gets there, he gets their king fathers to

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 3>pay money. So these princesses think that they're going to

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 3>be fine because their father will pay the ransom required

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to save them. Unfortunately, Lodac says their father did not

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 3>pay up, and instead he sent a company of knights

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 3>to rescue them, and the knights all died facing his

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:59.359
<v Speaker 3>seven curses. I have questions about this, like would there

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:03.799
<v Speaker 3>be an enough princesses to sustain this kind of operation indefinitely?

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Like how does Loadak not exhaust the supply of princesses

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 3>at this rate?

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe he's working internationally. We don't know, Like

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 2>he's just in Christian Europe, Medieval Europe at this point,

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 2>but maybe he's also jetting off to uh and to

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, to East Asia. At times he's heading he's

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 2>heading to Africa, South America, like he's got a full,

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 2>full global operation going here. Maybe he franchises.

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if sometimes like he can't get a princess

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 3>and it's just like this week, I had to feed

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:40.800
<v Speaker 3>my dragon an earl. Anyway, he tried a basil rathbone,

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:43.439
<v Speaker 3>tries to make Helene watch the other princesses being fed

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:45.759
<v Speaker 3>to the dragon, but she won't look, and we don't

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 3>get to see the monster yet. So then Lodak explains, Hey,

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, there are some Knights who are coming to

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 3>rescue you, but don't worry, they will fail. First of all,

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 3>he says, Sir Branton is coming, and she seems not

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 3>excited by this prospect, so I guess she doesn't like him.

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I'd like to be saved, but.

0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Not a big fan of Sir Brant.

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Here.

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:10.320
<v Speaker 3>But there's also somebody coming named Sir George, and despite

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:13.239
<v Speaker 3>having never met him and not knowing who who he is,

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 3>she's like, oh, George sounds cool.

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and his main main attraction being that he's not

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Sir Branton.

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess, oh, that's a good point. Maybe she's just

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 3>excited that it's anybody but Sir Branton. So Lodak is like, well,

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll show you the young fool. And then once again

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 3>we tune into Magical Remote Surveillance TV. So, like on

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 3>a screen on the wall, Lodak shows George Branton and

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 3>the other Nights approaching the First Curse. What is the

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 3>first Curse? Well, you know what, I really like the

0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 3>set and the landscape they set up here. It is

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 3>quite creepy. So they go into this this landscape of

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:53.040
<v Speaker 3>strangely shaped trees that at first I was like, what

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 3>are we looking at? It almost looks like trees that

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 3>have been pulled up out of the ground and you

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:01.800
<v Speaker 3>can see the whole root structure around in this pyramid

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 3>shaped kind of structure. But no, I don't think that's

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 3>what it is. I think it's actually supposed to be

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:11.239
<v Speaker 3>trees that have been knocked over in some way at

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 3>like ten feet up off the ground. But I gotta

0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 3>give him credit. I really like this set. It does

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 3>make me feel uneasy what lives here? And then we

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 3>find out it's an ogre. It's a big old ogre

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:27.360
<v Speaker 3>that starts trying to smash the knights, And I also

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:31.320
<v Speaker 3>the ogre design. It's gross looking, it's creepy.

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this monster has like that. Obviously this is going

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 2>to be something akin to amazing Colossal Man, but yeah,

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 2>in terms of just being this giant humanoid. But yeah,

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:47.360
<v Speaker 2>also has this kind of like were wolfy wolfman quality

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 2>to it, and also seems I don't know, I ended

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 2>up feeling more sorry for this creature than anything because

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't really do much. He just kind of stands

0:55:56.640 --> 0:56:01.200
<v Speaker 2>there and howls while Knights attempt he's got like.

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 3>One thing that looked creepy to me about him is

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 3>that it's like he's got different kinds of teeth in

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 3>his mouth, So they're not just like a row of

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 3>sharp teeth. It's like he has teeth from three different

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 3>kinds of creatures all in the same mouth.

0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:16.879
<v Speaker 2>This may also be the character I've read. I think

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Michael Weldon points out that Richard Keel is in this

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 2>movie but is completely uncredited. This would seem to be

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 2>the role you would have him in if you had

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:28.040
<v Speaker 2>an uncredited Richard Keel.

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I wonder, But I know what you're saying about feeling

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 3>sad for the creature, because it almost does seem like

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 3>he's just trying to hang out in this little blasted

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 3>landscape here, and then these things come in and start

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 3>poking at him with spears.

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I know what's happening. Yeah, he didn't ask

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to be the first curse maybe, I mean, that's the thing.

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 2>He's somebody who is cursed.

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true. So there's a long battle scene. George

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 3>eventually defeats the Ogre by galloping in circles around him

0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.879
<v Speaker 3>on his magically fast horse, and the Ogre is trying

0:56:59.920 --> 0:57:02.359
<v Speaker 3>to like follow him in order to crush him, but

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:04.880
<v Speaker 3>round he goes round around in circles, and then the

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Ogre becomes dizzy and falls over, and then George pokes

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:09.320
<v Speaker 3>him in the heart with his sword.

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Can't be that satisfying of the victory, honestly.

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh, and some of the Knights are killed here. So

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Sir Ulrich and Sir Pedro are killed by the Ogre

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 3>and they have a little funeral for them and show

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 3>them being buried, and Sir Brandon skips the funeral he's

0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 3>scouting ahead. Meanwhile, there are just like some scenes in

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 3>the castle where Helene is running around. She like sneaks

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 3>out of her cell and is running around getting scared

0:57:32.720 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 3>by various things, one of which is shrunken people inside

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 3>a cage. There's like dull sized people in a little

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 3>cage saying help us, help us, like attack of the

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:47.120
<v Speaker 3>puppet people. Yeah, a Lodax castle also has like these

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 3>like blue ghules and guys with conical heads, and people

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 3>in plague doctor like bird masks, and just various people

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 3>being scary.

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but mostly cone heads. There a lot of coneheads.

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 3>So on the road the Knights travel on to the

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:05.560
<v Speaker 3>next curse, which is a vile, misty swamp full of

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 3>bubbling acid pools. In this swamp, the Knights become separated

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 3>from one another and Sir Anthony falls into a bubbling

0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 3>acid pool. George tries to go save him, and Branton

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 3>intentionally knocks George into the pool. Somehow, George doesn't realize

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 3>this later. I don't know if he thinks it was

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 3>an accident or he doesn't realize somebody kicked him. I'm

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 3>not sure.

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:30.360
<v Speaker 2>But the result is pretty gruesome because we don't get

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 2>You might expect it from a movie like this. You

0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 2>might expect it to be like that high school biology

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 2>classroom skeleton rising to the surface. No, what we get

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:40.400
<v Speaker 2>is is a big grimmer.

0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 3>It's like a skull with very bleached white, gritted teeth,

0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 3>and then where the flesh would be over the skull

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:51.440
<v Speaker 3>is just like bubble gum has been stretched over the bone.

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 2>But the bubblegum that's had all the flavor chewed out

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's a nasty looking And it happens like

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 3>immediately Anthony's He's like swimming in the pool, going and

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.600
<v Speaker 3>being like help, help, and then it cuts away and

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 3>then cuts back and now he's just the skull.

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Done for fatality.

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.800
<v Speaker 3>But George survives the acid pool. I think because of

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 3>his magical armor. I assume that's the reason.

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's indestructible on this stuff. Now.

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, back at the witch Hut, Sybil finally escapes the basement.

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:26.200
<v Speaker 3>She realized owing her her friends there in the witchholder

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:30.880
<v Speaker 3>like playing chess, and she realizes George is in danger,

0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 3>so she decides she has to intervene to save him.

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:38.160
<v Speaker 3>But first she's gonna watch him on magic TV. So

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 3>we see her watching in the magic mirror. The camp

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 3>of the Knights after Anthony also has died, So now

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 3>there are only three of the other Knights left, I think,

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Sir James of Scotland, Sir Patrick of Ireland, and Sir

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Denis of France. And at the camp, Sir Branton is

0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 3>giving a speech trying to convince the other Knights to

0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 3>abandon the journey. He's like, go home, you, you don't

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.800
<v Speaker 3>have to risk your lives anymore. But the other Knights refuse,

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 3>and Sir Patrick mocks him. He says his tongue is

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:12.400
<v Speaker 3>like the honey from a clover patch. Is that an expression?

1:00:12.440 --> 1:00:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard that.

1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I've only ever heard it in this movie.

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:19.720
<v Speaker 3>So while the other night's sleep, Sir Branton sneaks off

1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:22.680
<v Speaker 3>alone to a house in the countryside, all for an

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<v Speaker 3>illicit rendezvous with Loadak. So here we get a big twist.

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<v Speaker 3>Turns out they have been conspiring together from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that ring with a dragon on it that Sir

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<v Speaker 3>Branton had and the King noticed and then nobody said

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<v Speaker 3>anything about. So it works like this. Lodak lost his

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<v Speaker 3>magic ring a while back. Sir Branton found it. Lodak

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<v Speaker 3>wants the ring back, but he can't take it because

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<v Speaker 3>the ring protects itself against being taken by force. So

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<v Speaker 3>they make a deal. In exchange for the return of

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<v Speaker 3>the ring, Lodak will help Sir Branton win the hand

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<v Speaker 3>of Princess Helene and the reward of half of the

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<v Speaker 3>King's kingdom for her rescue. So he would do that

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<v Speaker 3>by staging this abduction and then allowing Sir Branton to

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<v Speaker 3>bring her back.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Yeah, a nice side scheme to everything here.

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<v Speaker 2>The plot dickens.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a good twist and but clearly the party.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I like about it is that they're not

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<v Speaker 3>just cleanly in league like the parties involved here distrust

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<v Speaker 3>one another. They are both snakes, and they're both wondering,

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<v Speaker 3>how will the other one try to betray me? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, either one will stab the other one in the

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<v Speaker 2>back once they have what they want.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and then suddenly, while they're talking, Lodak is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Sir Denis of France is coming, you know he So

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<v Speaker 3>Sir Denis noticed Branton leaving the camp early in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>and he followed him to investigate. While everybody else is sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>Lodak detects he's coming, but don't worry. He has a plan.

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<v Speaker 3>It's some kind of horrible love trap, Like he sees

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<v Speaker 3>Sir Denis coming and then he's like, ah, he's a

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<v Speaker 3>Frenchman and so I will get him with a pretty woman.

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<v Speaker 3>So suddenly, a while Dennis is approaching this house that

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<v Speaker 3>he's trying to investigate, just like a pretty lady just

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<v Speaker 3>wanders onto the screen singing Freira Shaka, and Sir Dennis

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<v Speaker 3>is like, there can't be anything suspicious about this. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's just like monto more, I'm in love. He is

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<v Speaker 3>successfully catfished by magic. I guess you would call this witchfished.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he's like they're just sitting there smooching, and

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<v Speaker 3>then suddenly she transforms into a witch and tries to

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<v Speaker 3>bite his neck. And the witch has like the witch

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<v Speaker 3>is creepy looking, she's got like one eye melting off

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<v Speaker 3>of her head. She tries to bite him in the neck,

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<v Speaker 3>but Sir George comes to the rescue. Dennis is saved

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<v Speaker 3>because George does something like with his magic shield and

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<v Speaker 3>it like emits light that scares the witch and makes

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<v Speaker 3>her vaporize. Oh and then I like how Dennis is

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<v Speaker 3>He just fully plays into the Lodax assumed seo type

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<v Speaker 3>here when he's talking to George, He's like, yeah, Lodak

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<v Speaker 3>got me. He must have known I was French.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean it's enough to make you wonder are

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<v Speaker 2>these knights even real? Were they really captured knights or

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<v Speaker 2>were they just made by sorcery and therefore based on

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<v Speaker 2>just broad stereotypes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny. Yeah. Oh, and then there's a confrontation where

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<v Speaker 3>George and Dennis go into the house to see Sir Branton,

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<v Speaker 3>but Branton lies his way out of it. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>also after they leave, there's a funny scene where the

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<v Speaker 3>witch like they have a performance review the witch does

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<v Speaker 3>with Lodak, and she's like, I almost killed him.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried, but you know that's not gonna cut it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does he do? Bam, turns her into a spider.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So how far into the curses are we now, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>This is a good question.

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<v Speaker 3>I sort of got confused trying to count the curses.

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<v Speaker 3>So the ogre is the first curse, and the swamp

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<v Speaker 3>with the acid pools, I think that's the second curse.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're at least two.

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<v Speaker 3>In third curse is I think the witch who looks

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<v Speaker 3>like a French lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so that would mean we're ready for four

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<v Speaker 2>at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>But when when I think about the rest of it,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't add up. I'm like, what are the seven curses?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the next one is definitely a doozy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my lord? Yeah, okay, So at this point I

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<v Speaker 3>think somehow Sir James of Scotland and Sir Dennis of

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<v Speaker 3>France like, go ahead to investigate what's down the road,

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<v Speaker 3>and that leaves Sir George, Sir Branton and Sir Patrick

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<v Speaker 3>of Ireland and the three of them they they they're

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<v Speaker 3>approaching their their comrades. But the comrades who went ahead

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<v Speaker 3>are now just like melted. They're horribly irradiated, covered in blisters.

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<v Speaker 3>Their hair is gone, their skin is like peeling away

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<v Speaker 3>like old wallpaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's disgusting, absolutely disgusting. You see them in like a cave,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, staring into this yellow spiral and they're shirtless

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<v Speaker 3>and their hair is gone. And then they turn and

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<v Speaker 3>look into the camera and they're all messed up, partially melted,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you see their like silhouettes coming over a

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<v Speaker 3>hilltop and then they just disappear. It's like they turn

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<v Speaker 3>to dust.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in a way, almost like a decade appropriate version

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<v Speaker 2>of the Robocot melt scene, you know, because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>they're coming right at us. They look horrible, they look

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<v Speaker 2>in pain. And it's this moment especially where I can think,

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<v Speaker 2>I can rationalize. It's like, Okay, I could see where

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<v Speaker 2>some sensors might have had a problem with the tonal

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<v Speaker 2>inconsistency of this film. One second, it's a chimpanzee playing chess,

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<v Speaker 2>and then later on it's this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, can't you just imagine Sir Branton here in ray

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<v Speaker 3>wise fashion and being like, don't touch me in yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, So those nights. They're gone melted, blasted by

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<v Speaker 3>whatever that the yellow spiral thing was. Now somewhere in

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<v Speaker 3>here this may actually have already happened, or it's somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>in here that there's a whole scene where Sybil back

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<v Speaker 3>at home, is trying to intervene to help George. She

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<v Speaker 3>wants to like brew up a potion and do a

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<v Speaker 3>spell that will help him somehow, but she ends up

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<v Speaker 3>having the exact opposite of her intended effect, and she

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<v Speaker 3>accidentally disables his magic powers instead.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the sibyl is cooking scene that I referenced earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>And even though it doesn't pay off for her, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still a fabulous sequence because again, the music just gets

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<v Speaker 2>super weird. You got those red gels, and yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>just cooking away and I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could tell she's improvising, like she she doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>remember the recipe, so she's you know, it's like she's

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<v Speaker 3>playing a solo here, making it up as she goes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well I think I need the ear of a rabbit.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she doesn't have the recipe in front of her,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't have everything prepared, but oh man, her cauldron

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<v Speaker 2>is an upturned monster skull.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love everything about this sequence, even if it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really pay off the way she's hoping it will.

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<v Speaker 3>So after this, Sir Branton leads George and Sir Patrick Ireland,

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<v Speaker 3>the last of the six Nights, into a cave and

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<v Speaker 3>then he like leads him into the cave I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of like taunts them somehow and makes them

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<v Speaker 3>follow him, and then they go into the cave and

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<v Speaker 3>then he leaves the cave and it the door of

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<v Speaker 3>the cave closes behind him, so they're trapped inside. And

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<v Speaker 3>then these weird green mask ghosts come out. They're like

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<v Speaker 3>floating in the air and wailing, and one of the

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<v Speaker 3>ghosts kills Sir Patrick sort of just by flying into

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<v Speaker 3>his face and then seeping into him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's kind of a hard to follow sequence,

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<v Speaker 2>but the ghosts are creepy, the music is good. The

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<v Speaker 2>ghost kind of looked like shrunken heads, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>also like masks. So uh, yeah, it mostly works. It does.

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<v Speaker 3>The one thing that works less well is that the

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<v Speaker 3>tone of what follows. So Sir Patrick dies and he

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<v Speaker 3>can be heard violently screaming George help me. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>really painful to hear ragged screaming desperate. But then a

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<v Speaker 3>ghost face flies into the wall of the cave and

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<v Speaker 3>a door opens to the outside, so like they were

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<v Speaker 3>trapped inside. Oh and George had tried to use his

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<v Speaker 3>sword to open the door because it's supposed to open

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<v Speaker 3>any doors, but it has been deactivated from afar by Sybil,

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<v Speaker 3>so that didn't work. And so yeah, this ghost face

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<v Speaker 3>flies into the wall, the wall opens up yet again,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the voice of Sir Patrick, still screaming in

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<v Speaker 3>exactly the same way, says George.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the wall. Yeah, and yeah, it's hard to follow

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what has happened here, and which character is it

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<v Speaker 2>that then tells us in a bit here and explains that, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>well it's Patrick's faith.

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<v Speaker 3>That yeah, Lodak explains it. Actually, So George escapes the

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<v Speaker 3>cave because of whatever that was, the like face flying

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<v Speaker 3>into the wall and the screaming voices door it opened.

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<v Speaker 3>George gets out. There's this lingering shot of Sir Patrick's

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<v Speaker 3>dead body in the cave as the wall closes behind

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<v Speaker 3>George on his way out. Then we see once again

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<v Speaker 3>somebody watching magic remote TV Loadak and Sir Branton are

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<v Speaker 3>looking upon a magic fire scheming, and Sir Branton says,

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<v Speaker 3>was it magic? Loadak says, no, not magic. Sir Branton says,

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<v Speaker 3>then how did George escape. Loadak says, I think, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>something stronger than magic, the power of Patrick's faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, where does that come from? We have not

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<v Speaker 2>There's been nothing to establish that Patrick was particularly religious.

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<v Speaker 2>All we know is that he is Irish and he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't even like call out to God or Jesus or

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<v Speaker 2>anything during that final encounter, Like that alone would have

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<v Speaker 2>been if he was like Jesus Christ, save our hero

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<v Speaker 2>or something anything, But no, it's it's just apparently his

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<v Speaker 2>faith was strong enough that God intervened.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, I agree with all of that very strange,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it's funny that Lodak acknowledges that his

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<v Speaker 3>powers are helpless in the face of like prayer, so

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<v Speaker 3>his enemies would just like pray to God to defeat

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<v Speaker 3>him they could win.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he's kind of like, well, God only gets

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<v Speaker 2>involved directly on rare occasions, so it's gonna happen every

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<v Speaker 2>now and then, but not to the extent that it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to actually derail my plans here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So anyway, this seems to be the last of

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<v Speaker 3>the seven curses somehow, or maybe there's one still at

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<v Speaker 3>the castle something like. George gallops up to.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, we're past five here this don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are the others. George gallops to the castle on

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<v Speaker 3>his white horse, and as he wanders through the deserted courtyard,

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<v Speaker 3>a heavy wooden door creaks open by itself to allow

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<v Speaker 3>him inside. And Lodak and Branton they know he's here.

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<v Speaker 3>They're watching as he heads towards helene cell, and Lodak says,

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry about it, Sir Branton, It'll all work out

1:11:20.520 --> 1:11:23.840
<v Speaker 3>just fine. So George gets to Helene's cell, he greets her.

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<v Speaker 3>Helene says, George, Oh, I must be dreaming, but you are,

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<v Speaker 3>George or is this just more of Lodak's magic? And

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<v Speaker 3>he I guess he has to be like, Hi, you

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<v Speaker 3>know I've been spying on you in the magic pool

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<v Speaker 3>for years but we have not met. But she is

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<v Speaker 3>happy to see him, and there's some type of parody here,

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<v Speaker 3>because she says Lodak has been showing her visions of

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<v Speaker 3>him just to torture her. So they like both only

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<v Speaker 3>know one another from magical remote surveillance, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>the first time either one has seen the other in person.

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<v Speaker 3>They start smooching. Of course there's kissing there, and what

1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:05.519
<v Speaker 3>about Sir Branton? Who cares? So they try to sneak out,

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<v Speaker 3>but just as they are able to reach the front door,

1:12:08.600 --> 1:12:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Lodak springs a trap. His weird minions magically materialized in

1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:16.880
<v Speaker 3>front of the exit, and George and Helene are caught.

1:12:17.640 --> 1:12:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Sir Branton's treachery is revealed. Branton, thinking that the deal

1:12:21.960 --> 1:12:25.400
<v Speaker 3>has been finished, gives the magical ring back to Lodak,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Helene says she will happily leave with Sir Branton. Huh,

1:12:30.000 --> 1:12:32.320
<v Speaker 3>I thought she didn't really like him. Why was she

1:12:32.439 --> 1:12:34.080
<v Speaker 3>so happy to go with him? I mean, I guess

1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:35.680
<v Speaker 3>it would kind of make sense, you'd be happy to

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<v Speaker 3>leave with anybody. But you know, it's surprising to the viewer.

1:12:39.920 --> 1:12:42.360
<v Speaker 3>But guess what, it's another double cross. We sort of

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<v Speaker 3>saw this coming, didn't we. You can't trust Lodak captured

1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:49.720
<v Speaker 3>well in this production still that I drug rob or

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<v Speaker 3>so Sir Branton is like embracing Helene and she it's

1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:55.960
<v Speaker 3>the witch double cross again.

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<v Speaker 2>Hagged again, but he's not going to get off that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, of course, no, Loadak says, did you think I

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<v Speaker 3>did you really think I'd keep my word once I

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<v Speaker 3>had the ring? And Brandon seems genuinely shocked and betrayed.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you notice like it's weird, how like surprised he

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<v Speaker 3>seems by this?

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<v Speaker 2>But I made a deal with an evil wizard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like we already even talked about this, Like

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<v Speaker 3>how does he I don't know, but Sir Branton says

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<v Speaker 3>she belongs to me. We made a bargain, and Lodak says,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't bargain with mortals. I destroy them. And then

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<v Speaker 3>we get the magical destruction of Branton. What does Lodak

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<v Speaker 3>do to him? Does he summon an ogre to crush

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<v Speaker 3>him like a grape? Does he create another heat tornado

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<v Speaker 3>to melt his flesh away?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>He transforms Sir Branton into a mounted head on the wall,

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<v Speaker 3>like a stuffed deer head at a hunting lodge.

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<v Speaker 2>And the effect is pretty funny here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it does look funny. In fact, I don't I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not even sure it's not just the actor sticking his

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<v Speaker 3>head through a hole in the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Been it might have been that simple, or it might

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<v Speaker 2>have been some you know, some optical special effects that

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<v Speaker 2>especially to a modern view, or you know, we're liable

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<v Speaker 2>to miss because we take that sort of thing for granted. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, back at home, we see more of Sybil trying

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<v Speaker 3>to help George. She is trying to remember the words

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<v Speaker 3>to a spell that she knows she could use to

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<v Speaker 3>save George and defeat Lodak, but she can't remember the words.

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<v Speaker 3>She knows, like, there's like a number of lines and

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<v Speaker 3>they all rhyme with sack, I think, but you can't

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<v Speaker 3>remember the last word in the last line. Turns out

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<v Speaker 3>it is attack.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>The last line when she finally does remember it later,

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<v Speaker 3>it's help my son to attack. It seems like that'd

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<v Speaker 3>be kind of obvious, but magic's complicated, It's true. She

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<v Speaker 3>decides to transform into a bird and fly to Lodak's castle,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's going to figure out the spell on the way.

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<v Speaker 3>So at Lodak's castle, Lodak brings Helene to a dungeon

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<v Speaker 3>room where George is shirtless and tied to a rack,

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<v Speaker 3>and he he's, uh, this part's creepy. Yeah, He's like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 3>show me what young mortals in love dude to bid

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<v Speaker 3>farewell before they die. So I think he just wants

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<v Speaker 3>to watch them make out a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and and and mock them. But he's like

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<v Speaker 2>two feet away from them, maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, standing right there, and they're they're smooching, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, m how tender. Uh yeah, but too bad,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's it's too late for love now. Now

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna die. Uh. So they both say they love

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<v Speaker 3>each other, and George is the plan is he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to watch through the window as Helene has fed

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<v Speaker 3>to the dragon, much like she was supposed to watch

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<v Speaker 3>as the other princesses were fed to the dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, have we had the part where Lodak and Sybil

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<v Speaker 2>have their final zoom conference with each other and he

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<v Speaker 2>destroys her mirror. We may we may have skipped over

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<v Speaker 2>that by one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. I think I forgot to mention that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's it's wonderfully spicy because like it's like Zdak

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<v Speaker 2>calls in on the magic mirror and he's like, hmm, Sybil,

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking old, and I just stop to a really

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<v Speaker 2>toxic start between these two and they kind of talk

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<v Speaker 2>trash to each other, and then he destroys her mirror

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, you're not getting interfere with my plants.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, but Lodack's in for a surprise. So we get

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<v Speaker 3>a scene of Lodac's minions preparing a feast, and one

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<v Speaker 3>of them is supposed to go get the cage of

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<v Speaker 3>shrunken people like the puppet people to put in the stew.

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<v Speaker 3>But he drops the cage and they escape, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a repeat of attack of the Puppet People. It's literally

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<v Speaker 3>like the shrunken people get out and start like setting

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<v Speaker 3>up traps and wreaking havoc within the room.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice they condensed all of that into a short

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<v Speaker 2>segment in a much better film. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the puppet people, for some reason, they break

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<v Speaker 3>into George's cell and they bring him his magic sword

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<v Speaker 3>and they use it to cut the ropes that are

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<v Speaker 3>binding our hero. They set him free. George thanks them.

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<v Speaker 3>He tells them that even though the sword has lost

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<v Speaker 3>its magic, it's still a which.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like an escalator, you know, it breaks down,

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<v Speaker 2>nish Hedberg pointed out, still stares. That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the dragon is coming to eat Helene and

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<v Speaker 3>she's you know, like tied up there for the dragon

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<v Speaker 3>to eat. She's screaming in terror. And you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, This dragon looks surprisingly good. I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>actually shockingly good. For a Bert Eye Gordon movie. This is,

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<v Speaker 3>without doubt the best looking special effect I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 3>from mister Big.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely looks looks amazing. You know, obviously you see it

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<v Speaker 2>in motion. You know that it's an effect, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it is very well done, and it's shooting flames.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks dangerous and wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So it's like a big two headed dragon breathing fire.

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<v Speaker 3>It has frills on its head heads. And George comes

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<v Speaker 3>in on his horse. He's trying to save Helene, squaring

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<v Speaker 3>off against the dragon with his lance. And then Sybil arrives.

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<v Speaker 3>She she like parks next to Lodak, who is looking

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<v Speaker 3>down from above on a parapet, and Lodak says, Sybil,

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<v Speaker 3>come to watch your boy die. But Sybil, she's busy

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<v Speaker 3>trying to remember the next line of the spell to

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<v Speaker 3>restore George's magic. I gotta say in the performance here,

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<v Speaker 3>she does not seem to have the appropriate sense of urgency.

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<v Speaker 3>She's still just doing her kind of absent minded, only

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<v Speaker 3>half present, you know what was that next line? But

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<v Speaker 3>eventually she does come up, she doesn't just remember it.

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<v Speaker 3>Lodak cues her, you know. Lodak sees that George's magical

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<v Speaker 3>weapons are not working against the dragon, and Lodak says

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<v Speaker 3>he's even lost the power to attack. And then Sibyl's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the word attack. Give my boy the power to attack,

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<v Speaker 3>and so now I guess he's powered up once again.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and then while Lodak is distracted, Sybil steals Lodak's ring.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, yep, yep. I'm a little foggy on how

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<v Speaker 2>it works though, because we were told earlier you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be taken by force, but I guess it can be

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<v Speaker 2>slipped off while you're looking the other way. Too much

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<v Speaker 2>wizard grease on your fingers there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Loadak doesn't consider himself defeated yet. She takes his ring,

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<v Speaker 3>but he says they will still die. I curse you,

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<v Speaker 3>curse upon curse, and so George, Oh, here's how the

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<v Speaker 3>math works out. Now that I'm remembering it, I think

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<v Speaker 3>the dragon itself is the sixth the curse. And then

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<v Speaker 3>Lodak explains that the seventh curse is himself is Lodak.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fitting. That's fitting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So Lodak seems ready to blast out some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of killing magic, but then, in a fantastic payoff to

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<v Speaker 3>what seemed like a really pointless setup that we were

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<v Speaker 3>even making fun of earlier, Sybil turns into a panther

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<v Speaker 3>and mauls Lodak, killing him. It's George's favorite trick when

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<v Speaker 3>he was a boy.

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<v Speaker 2>And now it's paid off once more. It's great and

1:19:52.479 --> 1:19:54.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a great moment when Sybil gets her come up

1:19:54.520 --> 1:19:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and see her because again Lodak has not considered her

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<v Speaker 2>threat at all the entire time, and now she she

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<v Speaker 2>has completely defeated him. For George, I get, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>George is the hero. I get. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Sybil's the hero.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Sybil does most of the work, like she

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<v Speaker 3>enchants all of the items that allow George to defeat

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<v Speaker 3>these monsters and stuff. I would say the most the

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<v Speaker 3>craftiest thing that George does of his own accord is

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<v Speaker 3>actually when he tricks Sybil into going in the basement

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<v Speaker 3>at the beginning and traps her there and his it

1:20:27.200 --> 1:20:29.720
<v Speaker 3>is and most of his equipment does the.

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<v Speaker 2>Rest yeah, which again she supplied.

1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:36.000
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, okay, so all is all is restored, All

1:20:36.040 --> 1:20:37.960
<v Speaker 3>is happy now, and we go back to the castle

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<v Speaker 3>where the king is and Helene and George of return

1:20:41.360 --> 1:20:43.720
<v Speaker 3>and it seems like the king approves of George now,

1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:47.080
<v Speaker 3>so of course they're going to get married somehow. The

1:20:47.120 --> 1:20:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Six Nights are alive again. They just are shown walking

1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:53.160
<v Speaker 3>into the throne room. I don't think there's any explanation

1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:57.120
<v Speaker 3>of how they're not dead. Did you pick up anything there?

1:20:57.479 --> 1:20:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I kind of I was thinking about this and I

1:20:59.439 --> 1:21:01.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I guess it's because you know, Sybil's

1:21:01.160 --> 1:21:05.559
<v Speaker 2>brother whenever he froze them, like he made them his

1:21:05.880 --> 1:21:09.040
<v Speaker 2>sorceress slaves forever. So it's like, you guys are not

1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:11.200
<v Speaker 2>getting out of this just because you died horribly in

1:21:11.240 --> 1:21:14.920
<v Speaker 2>this quest. Like no, no, no, Sybil. You belong to

1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Sybil forever and you have to serve her son or

1:21:18.160 --> 1:21:20.559
<v Speaker 2>whoever happens to have the reins here.

1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:23.439
<v Speaker 3>It's like a Warlock pact. It's like, yeah, if you die,

1:21:23.560 --> 1:21:25.799
<v Speaker 3>you still you go to your you're in a Vernas,

1:21:25.880 --> 1:21:29.160
<v Speaker 3>and you still have to serve the warlock. The patron.

1:21:29.600 --> 1:21:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they still seem upbeat about it, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they have any choice in the matter.

1:21:33.160 --> 1:21:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, who's complaining. We get to hear all those wonderful

1:21:35.439 --> 1:21:39.519
<v Speaker 3>accents again. And and then Sybil is also hanging out

1:21:39.520 --> 1:21:41.880
<v Speaker 3>in the throne room. I guess she's like the court sorceress.

1:21:41.960 --> 1:21:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Now she's gonna she's gonna heal the king's pink eye.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's that's as about as happy an

1:21:49.760 --> 1:21:51.120
<v Speaker 3>ending as one could ask for.

1:21:51.520 --> 1:21:55.000
<v Speaker 2>It's really the rise of Sybil too, because she's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>basically be running the place I was not super impressed

1:21:57.760 --> 1:22:01.280
<v Speaker 2>by the king. Uh, Sybil is totally ruling this kingdom.

1:22:01.320 --> 1:22:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Now there's a huge power vacuum left by the death

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<v Speaker 2>of Lodak. So yeah, this is the reign of Sybil

1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:07.800
<v Speaker 2>day one.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that. The king's previous most decisive moments

1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:15.000
<v Speaker 3>were things like I like these nights.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, more belly dancing please. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I pledge fealty to Lady Sybil. It may she

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<v Speaker 3>rain for ten million years.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Well this one was a really fun one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I encourage everyone out there to see this one. If

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<v Speaker 2>if you were a fan of the old MA St

1:22:33.320 --> 1:22:36.200
<v Speaker 2>three k version or the newer Riff tracks. Yeah, do that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great film to enjoy rift, but it also

1:22:39.640 --> 1:22:41.920
<v Speaker 2>more than stands up on its own and again, if

1:22:41.960 --> 1:22:43.640
<v Speaker 2>you do seek it out to watch it, watch it

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<v Speaker 2>in the best quality you can get your hands on.

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