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Speaker 1: Am I the ahole for sleeping with the fiance of

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Speaker 1: the girl who my ex boyfriend cheated on me with?

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Speaker 2: Beyonce of the girl who my ex boyfriend cheated me on.

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Speaker 3: That nice work, Sophia, thank you, A user says.

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Speaker 1: My ex and I met when I was twenty, but

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Speaker 1: we were only friends until I started dating two and

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Speaker 1: a half years ago. I found out last year that

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Speaker 1: my ex had been cheating on me for basically our

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Speaker 1: whole relationship with a girl he met through a mutual friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, whole relationship? Why are you in a relationship?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing? Buddy?

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Speaker 1: I broke things off after I found out and told

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Speaker 1: the girl's fiance about the affair. He ended up breaking

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Speaker 1: off their engagement after he found out, and she seemed

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Speaker 1: nonchalant about it until she realized that my ex's money

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Speaker 1: wasn't actually his. My grandma left me a lot when

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Speaker 1: she passed back in twenty nineteen, and my ex had

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Speaker 1: been flaunted around the things I had gifted him throughout

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Speaker 1: our relationship to.

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Speaker 2: Her whoa even even.

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Speaker 1: Going so far as to claim that the house had

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Speaker 1: the antique car my grandpa left for me in his will.

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Speaker 4: Were my exes so when I see you in the

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Speaker 4: comments put an I see you in the comments, see

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Speaker 4: you in the common and uh, you know what we're

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Speaker 4: gonna do. I'm going to pause it right here, and uh,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and break it down for myself and

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Speaker 4: everyone else.

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Speaker 3: Do you do you pop quiz? Do you feel like

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Speaker 3: you fully understand?

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Speaker 5: Give?

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Speaker 3: Give it to me and the people? What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So OPI was dating a guy, finds out he's

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Speaker 2: been cheating on her the whole time, the whole relationship,

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Speaker 2: and so she's like, what the heck, and so she

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Speaker 2: does a little snooping. She finds out that the girl

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Speaker 2: that her ex boyfriend was cheating on her with has

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Speaker 2: a fiance, and so she goes and text that fiance says, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I just found out that your girlfriend slash fiance has

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Speaker 2: been cheating on you with my boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: Got you.

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Speaker 1: It's two couples, two couples and the the the other

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Speaker 1: two people are cheating together.

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Speaker 2: The couple's cheating.

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Speaker 1: There we go and he's like flaunting ops, yeah, nice things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the boyfriend was like to this. This other girl

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm super rich, I've got you know,

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Speaker 2: I got this house in my name, I got put

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Speaker 2: they belong to OPI broke it down.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: We have seen this so many times, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: what do you expect to happen? Do you expect that

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Speaker 1: you will magically acquire all of these things?

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Speaker 6: Know?

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Speaker 2: They just expect that it'll be too late by then

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Speaker 3: Out, like uh uh, like they love me for me,

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Speaker 3: die young and leave a pretty corpse type vibes like

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Speaker 3: I know that this is not gonna work. Laddin, Aladdin,

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Speaker 3: because he was he tending to intended to be rich, right.

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Speaker 2: And then his whole plan was she'll love me for

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Speaker 2: me and that works. That actually is a bad that's

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Speaker 3: Yes, lie to your.

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Speaker 1: Partner, lie to them about your money and it's gonna

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Aladdin, there you go, so should be to be duped.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: So it's not thank you for that break down. By

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Speaker 1: the way, It's not something I'm proud of now now

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Speaker 1: that I think back to it. But I did allow

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Speaker 1: After he ghosted me for her, I didn't officially give

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Speaker 1: I was for my ex who didn't even give an

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: I was really.

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Speaker 1: Upset and asked him if you'd be willing to meet

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Speaker 2: Oh, putting ic in the comments.

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Speaker 1: I I see you, but I don't know if I

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Speaker 2: You don't see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so I will spoil. Yeah you should,

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Speaker 1: I yes, yes, I'll be surprised. I want to pull

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Speaker 1: really quick. I know we we often we say like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're going through something, you know, go

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Speaker 1: to therapy, couple's counseling like get some get some professional

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Speaker 1: mental health help before calling it quits. That is many

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Speaker 1: times the solution we come to. I kind of feel like, op,

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Speaker 1: he should uh what should oh he do? Leave or

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Speaker 2: Stay too long?

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Speaker 1: He has proved over and over and over again, and

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Speaker 1: like I feel like I feel like in this specific scenario,

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Speaker 1: that's just a like an inn for him to be

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Speaker 1: able to like weasel his way in. Whereas like you've

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Speaker 1: already like kind of like like like it's like this, right,

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Speaker 1: he showed his true colors by cheating repeatedly and literally

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he could just come to the table and

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Speaker 3: lie and be like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, the thing is he doesn't want to come

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Speaker 2: to the table. He Okay, this is analogy analogize. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's a person your boyfriend. He's throwing eggs at you. Yep,

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Speaker 2: he throws eggs at you every day.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then he says, give me money. Why would you

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Speaker 2: keep giving a man who keeps throwing eggs at you money?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 1: That is a classic John analogy right there. Sofia and

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Speaker 1: I am freaking proud of you and.

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Speaker 3: I freaking love it. Would more John analogies on the

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Speaker 3: pot on the show fun. They're so fun. Just make

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Speaker 3: up literally anything that is what I'm you get it,

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Speaker 3: you get it. He is a kind of relate.

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Speaker 2: Also, just Becausada said that my Aladdin reference was a

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Speaker 2: bad analogy. I disagree. That was a very good analogy.

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Speaker 3: I will back you up on this one because I

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be on your side for any argument for

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Speaker 5: the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that, I will admit that kind of won me

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Speaker 1: ten years and they liked each other for most of

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Speaker 1: the time they were friends, but he wasn't looking for

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Speaker 1: a relationship because he was focusing on school. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is just means of weaseling his way in.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: No, wait, hold up, hold on, hold up. This is

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Speaker 2: for Claire. For clarity, This is not Opie's boyfriend. This

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Speaker 2: is Opie's boyfriend's affair partner's fiance.

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Speaker 3: This is sorry, sorry.

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Speaker 2: This is these two people are talking now, so cheaters,

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Speaker 2: these two people are talking.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there we go. Okay, let me read that back again.

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Speaker 1: He also confided in me about his relationship with his ex.

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Speaker 1: They'd known each other for ten years and they liked

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Speaker 1: focusing on school. He had decided to give them a

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Speaker 1: a swoop me off my feet type move right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a love bombing.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is oh love bombing.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps she dropped everything to take care of him, help

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Speaker 3: Oh, he probably doesn't like that. He told me in

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Speaker 3: detail about how he'd never felt so loved and cared for.

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Speaker 3: How how after she'd done that for him, he decided

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Speaker 3: that she was the one that if it wasn't love.

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Speaker 3: Then love wasn't real.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, that is some horrendous foreshadowing.

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Speaker 3: My friends.

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Speaker 1: Figuring out that she was cheating for the last two

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Speaker 1: having doubts about him, having doubts about him. Wow, what

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Speaker 1: am I thirteen years old?

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Speaker 2: I know you were gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: I know you are going to do that.

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Speaker 1: You you literally you literally I could you laughed, Anna,

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Speaker 3: No, I was this is Sophia.

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Speaker 2: No, I wasn't. That's so true. I didn't say anything,

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't going to say anything. And then Riley, no, yes,

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Speaker 3: I literally went like this and you laugh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you put the camera on me, buddy. That you

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Speaker 2: don't put the camera on me, buddy.

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Speaker 5: Hi, anyway, you knew the second it was put on

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Speaker 3: Anyways, we also always thought it's okay. Anyways, back to

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Speaker 3: the story, So, she'd been trying he'd been trying to

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Speaker 1: Ah, I felt like a monster hearing their love story

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Speaker 1: and then realizing that they didn't get their happy ending

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Speaker 1: because of my ex and and I messed with my head.

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Speaker 3: We continue to talk from time to time.

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Speaker 2: She because of my ex and I and that messed

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Speaker 2: with their head? Is she blaming herself as well?

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Speaker 1: I felt like I'm maybe I felt like a monster

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Speaker 1: hearing their love story and then realizing that they didn't

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Speaker 1: get their happy ending because of my ex and I,

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Speaker 1: and that messed with my head.

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Speaker 3: Because because.

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Speaker 2: Because and I messed with my.

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Speaker 1: But do you get it, I mean because of my accident. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because they were you know, they happened. They they were intertwined,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the destiny of their fate because I missed.

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Speaker 3: With their heads. Yes, it was pure.

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Speaker 1: It was an unfortunate happenstance. But Op, He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just sucked that we were the ones involved in

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Speaker 1: like unraveling it. But it was gonna be it really was. Yeah, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I honestly.

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Speaker 3: I think if Op, if anything, so much blame on herself, so.

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Speaker 1: Much blame on herself, and if anything, he should feel

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Speaker 1: good that she helped reveal the tru's stinkiness and help

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Speaker 3: Oh both.

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Speaker 2: They're both like so in their exes lives and like

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's are pining for getting back together.

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Speaker 3: And I just so it's not the move chat tell me,

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Speaker 3: Whoa this guy? You know of these two people? This guy.

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Speaker 5: I was just doing this.

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Speaker 3: Number one in the world, the world. Gotta love it.

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Speaker 2: This is girls other girls. Fiance who she got back

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Speaker 5: John, you'd be one side and then Sophia be the.

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Speaker 2: Other car okay, okay, okay, your op and.

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Speaker 3: With hands, op with hand?

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Speaker 5: What like one person? One person?

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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. Okay, open hands are

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out was this guy a

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Speaker 2: There we go, okay, yes, so fiance got back together?

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Speaker 3: Ye turkey focus, this is a critical mission.

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Speaker 2: Fiance got back together with cheater girl after she already cheated, uh,

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Speaker 3: The cheaters are cheating together again. All right, here we got.

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Speaker 1: We got there, did that, cleared up, We drank a

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Speaker 2: Okay, to be clear, this is Opie, Yeah, and the fiance.

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Speaker 1: He apologize and told me that it was a mistake

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Speaker 3: Did you replace that or yeah? A huge place? I

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Speaker 1: I went in last week to check with my doctor

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Speaker 1: I see you, I see you.

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Speaker 3: Uh that I used to help with my PCOS. What

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Speaker 5: What does that mean? Girl?

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Speaker 2: Sis. Thank you assists in your uterus and it can

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Speaker 1: I went in last week to check with my doctor

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Speaker 1: quick relevant comment. Lost Arm says, God, you're all idiots. Also,

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Speaker 1: that's not what revenge Spicy Sleep is deleted said, yes

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Speaker 3: Ouch Jesus picking picking Technically for him it is oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Where are we? Where we you know, getting all like technical?

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly why are we getting Actually.

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Speaker 2: That's not what that means?

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Speaker 3: What? So we have an update coming up.

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Speaker 2: But let's also I'd like to introduce our players. So

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Speaker 2: and so they just slept together and now they might

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Speaker 5: That's a whole family.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, Okay, this is the baby.

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Speaker 2: Well here the cheaters.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so which are also intertwined. They are did they

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Speaker 1: Ope knows she is now pregnant with this guy the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what should what should OPI do? Tell him? Yea

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Speaker 1: I don't want to seem like I'm being like attention

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Speaker 3: Would be. It would be attention seeking.

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Speaker 3: I really want to get in contact you to tell you.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You are both low key entitled and required to know

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Speaker 1: Part of those consequences are knowing of said consequence.

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Speaker 2: So true, I agree, you agree to present.

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Speaker 1: There we go, and the people think to also agree

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Speaker 1: fifteen months later, woo post baby, let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: I'm hungry boy, so.

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Speaker 2: Just got to grumble in my stomach.

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Speaker 5: Right, we should just stop and go get a bite

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Speaker 3: Obsessed date wants to buy my love bigig.

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Speaker 1: So a lot has happened since my original post I

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Speaker 1: Everyone has the right to their own bodies. My parents

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Speaker 2: Whoa how old is op.

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 3: Twenty six?

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Speaker 2: Female twenty six and they're disowning her over having a baby?

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Speaker 2: That's so messed up?

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Speaker 3: The equal give me my grain.

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Speaker 2: Migraines, I got a migrant right here.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I hand get very well.

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Speaker 2: I actually I do have a migraine. Oh it like

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Speaker 1: My parents are very upset with me, and my whole

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Speaker 1: at his place, but when I told him why, he

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Speaker 1: agreed to talk to Finally, the Dad let me know

446
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: that he'd officially ended with his X and wanted to

447
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: go no contact with me because I was another tie

448
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: to his past with her, which I think is I

449
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: think he should have communicated that.

450
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you should communicated. Yeah, you gotta talk, maam.

451
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 3: That's true. That's a good point.

452
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: But he was willing to try and figure out a

453
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Speaker 1: co parenting plan with me if I agreed to do

454
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Speaker 1: a paternity test first.

455
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: That yeah, which is also fair.

456
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Speaker 2: Fair.

457
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: I of course felt a bit bad about the paternity

458
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: test part, but agreed to it since we both.

459
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: Had they didn't really know each other before.

460
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah they didn't know each other?

461
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally, since we both had only been acquaintances

462
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: that bonded over trauma.

463
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got a trauma bond. Everything.

464
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: Everything was honestly easy cruising until I started to spot

465
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: around the twenty six week mark. My obg yn explained

466
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: that while spotting is normal while pregnant, mine was heavier

467
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: and my blood sugar slash blood pressure also both worried

468
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: them because of my just thank you, justational diabetes and

469
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: preclamsy a risk.

470
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Speaker 3: I am unaware of what those are.

471
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Well, just station period is like the.

472
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Speaker 1: Period chat scottis chat and and we also have a

473
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Speaker 1: producer that has access to but like I feel like

474
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Speaker 1: chat know.

475
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: Yes, is that because I know gestation has to do

476
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Speaker 2: with like pregnancy time periods. So I'm assuming that it

477
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Speaker 2: maybe like when you're pregnant you can get some form

478
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Speaker 2: of diabetes.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that is my total guess.

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Speaker 1: It's a type of diabees that occurs during pregnancy. Great,

481
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: great guess when a person is without diabetes develops high

482
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Speaker 1: high blood sugar levels.

483
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: It's caused by.

484
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Speaker 1: Hormones produced use during pregnancy that make less effective.

485
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Speaker 2: I'm literally a genius.

486
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, nice, nice job.

487
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: And then preclampsia occurs primarily in first pregnancy. At Riley

488
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Speaker 1: also you rush that, dude, I was just like, it

489
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: occurs Precampsit occurs primarily in first pregnancies. A woman who

490
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: had preclampsy in a previous pregnancy is seven times more

491
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Speaker 1: likely to develop preclampsy and a lego pregnancy.

492
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Speaker 3: Can we see pre.

493
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: Clamp Yeah, preclampsia.

494
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: Blood pressure issue, blood pressure issue. Okay, thank you nice.

495
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: That was someone else, like I said, the red neck amazon.

496
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Speaker 3: Okay, back to the story.

497
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Speaker 1: So, after a few nights of the dad insisting on

498
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: sleeping on my couch, I had him help me move

499
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: some of the things to his place since he lived

500
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 1: closer to the hospital. I'm thankful I decided to semi

501
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: move in with him when I did, because I went

502
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Speaker 1: into premature labor at thirty two.

503
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Speaker 3: Weeks WHOA moved in?

504
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Semi moved in like basically like yeah, I mean kind

505
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Speaker 1: of yeah, that's crazy.

506
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Speaker 2: Well so a month before.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which honestly I think is understandable given the context

508
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I don't think.

509
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: It's that crazy. You know, I moved in. If they're

510
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: expecting a baby, it's probably like I want to prepare

511
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: both of us for living together because I want to

512
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: help out with the baby.

513
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: This is maybe a classic John Bad analogy, but it's

514
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 1: kind of like give me like if I if I

515
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: maybe like broke like my leg in five places and

516
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, hey, maybe I should like live with

517
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: my parents a little bit for a bit, just so

518
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: I'm not like burdening everyone else with my like insanely

519
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: broken leg for a bit, you know, just to like

520
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: just to like get back on my feet, you know,

521
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, is your what kind of situation?

522
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Speaker 2: Though, I think it is more in the sense of

523
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 2: he is saying, I want to be around for the baby, yes, uh,

524
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: and leading up to having a child, there is a

525
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: lot of work to be done. There's a lot of

526
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: like you know, especially because she has the gestational diabetes,

527
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot of health concerns.

528
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

529
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: And so he's like, I want to because I want

530
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 2: to be there for my baby, I also have to

531
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Speaker 2: be there in the lead up to it because there's

532
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: safety issues going on.

533
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: It makes sense that was an analogy.

534
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: That was just a breaking.

535
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: Down, that was just that was just straight back. That

536
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: was just straight backs boom. But I'm very thankful to

537
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: have the dad.

538
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: Pigeon general, says John at that point, I think you

539
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: need a new leg. Were broken in.

540
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: Fine, I'm recovering anyways, my broken leg. Aside, I am

541
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: very thankful to have had the dad and his family

542
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: as my support system.

543
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: His mom would come.

544
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: His mom would come and switch out with him at

545
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: the hospital and advocated for me whenever I felt washed

546
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: out or under her unheard, which is like, I mean,

547
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: if you're at the hospital, you're like having birthing complications.

548
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: The poor mom is literally delivering his baby. Necessary to

549
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: have an advocate that is fighting for you. She helped

550
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: me both emotionally and physically. Answered by me love that.

551
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: The dad's mom also helped me work through my emotions

552
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: when all I wanted was my mom. She and my

553
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: dad have gone no contact with me.

554
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: After I decided to keep the baby. I hope you.

555
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: Get more contacts because that's just so insane. The dad's

556
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: mom was an absolute godsend also because she's a retired nurse.

557
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: She started in OB and went to the natal intensive

558
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: care unit and eventually later settled into lactation before retiring.

559
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

560
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: Wait? Go back?

561
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

562
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: She started in OBI, went to the natal intensive care

563
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: unit and eventually later settled into lactation retiring.

564
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: Well, g y n O I n to put yeah

565
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: like that.

566
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: And then intensive care unit makes sense?

567
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: Lactation, I don't know, maybe maybe like helping mothers learn

568
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: how to lactate or something like that.

569
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Speaker 1: Exter, let me look that up, averaging wolf.

570
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: Does, says breastfeeding coach.

571
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: Let's go, I am a genius breastfeeding support.

572
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so I'm a freaking genius.

573
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: There you go.

574
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: And I confirmed that, yeah, with literally zero backup knowledge

575
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: or support, which you one thousand percent did not know

576
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: the answer. God love it though. This is this is

577
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: why these two are legends. So and the dad's mom

578
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: explained things to me when we found out that my

579
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: baby had respiratory problems and a stingle umbilical artery, and

580
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: that it could have been a factor into why I

581
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: went into premature labor. She stayed with the dad and

582
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: I and so she could help me with pumping sense

583
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to produce milk, and encouraged me when

584
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: I felt like such a failure for not being able

585
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: to take care of my.

586
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: Son when he needed me most. Oh my god, that

587
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: breaks my heart.

588
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: She drove me to and from the hospital while my

589
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: son was in the natal intensive care unit because I

590
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: was healing and so mentally slash physically exhausted. I I

591
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: can imagine immediately after giving birth, you've just gone through

592
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: this insane process and then immediately like basically your baby

593
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: is in the emergency room for babies and you have

594
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: to like be engaged in that. Oh my god, this

595
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: is very scary.

596
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: But just the way that you said the babies in

597
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Speaker 2: the intensive carrying it for babies.

598
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Speaker 3: I don't know why.

599
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: This is a.

600
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: This show with journalistic think of somebody that you have

601
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Speaker 3: to specify you're it helps explain for the good people

602
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: at home. Oh my gosh, that's so funny.

603
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: All right, this is serious.

604
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: Anyways, this is so serious. Okay, I really and truly

605
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: believe that I didn't fall into a deep postpartum depression

606
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: because she held me and helped me with each step

607
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: and was always so patient with me even when I

608
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: wasn't with my stuff.

609
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: So this is the fiance's mother.

610
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: This is Op's baby daddy's mama.

611
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: Because her family kind of disowned.

612
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Her exactly, she's like basically playing the role of honestly

613
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of beautiful to see. Yeah, this is great given

614
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: the circumstance. The dad's mom would constantly reminds me that

615
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: nothing was our fault and no one did anything wrong.

616
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: It's uh, it just it's just that everyone is faced

617
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: with hardships in life, and this was one that we

618
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: would work together to get through. M VP of the MOMVP,

619
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Speaker 1: MVP of the like doing my God, what an angel.

620
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: One of the most my son.

621
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Speaker 1: My son graduated from the natal intensive care unit and

622
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: came home a month after I did.

623
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Speaker 3: A month. That's that's wild.

624
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: The dad's mom visited us often and helped with him,

625
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: since the dad and I are first time parents. My

626
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: baby daddy's father joked that he felt like she and

627
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: I had the baby together and that he and the

628
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: dad were both just background characters that make guest star

629
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: appearances every now and then. Thence, the dad of my

630
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: baby was working so much in order to build more

631
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: paid time off and his mom and his mom wouldn't

632
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: bring his dad along when she'd come to visit since

633
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: she didn't want him to disturb me and the baby.

634
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: With his louds. With his loudness, my baby Daddy's father

635
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: is hard of hearing and can sometimes be unaware of

636
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: his volume, so he took no offense to it. This

637
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: is a very self aware and I like this family.

638
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: I like this family.

639
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: The dad, siblings and family members post a lot about

640
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: our son because he was the first grandchild and the

641
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: first baby in a long time. The dad's youngest cousin

642
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: is seventeen turning eighteen this year, so it's been like

643
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years since they'd had a baby in the family.

644
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: Somehow someone must have shared a photo or something, but

645
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: pictures of us reached my family and my parents demanded

646
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: I let them meet my son.

647
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

648
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: Oh hell no, no, hell no, you are disgusting.

649
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: You.

650
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: You abandon your daughter when she's in this terrifying moment

651
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: of being with.

652
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: So many health issues, doing.

653
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: With so many health issues, becoming a parent, when when, when,

654
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: when not not expecting it, and you absolutely abandon her,

655
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: and now you have the odd the audacity to come

656
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: back and demand you see their child. No, somehow, someone

657
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: the dad, the father of the child, was supportive of

658
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: whatever I chose to do and said that he'd agreed

659
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: to meet with them if that's something that I wanted.

660
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: After thinking about it for a few days, I decided

661
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk to my parents before I

662
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: let them meet my son. When we meet up to talk,

663
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: my parents were offended that I didn't bring my son

664
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: with us. You literally said, I want nothing to do

665
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: with you make up your mind, decide on a decision,

666
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: and be decisive in said decided decision.

667
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: And that's not facts. My god.

668
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: Wow.

669
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Speaker 1: Then they said some really hurtful things, and then my

670
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Speaker 1: dad started to question on when my my baby's father

671
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: was going to ask him permission for us to get

672
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: married since we didn't already, since we didn't already have

673
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: a shotgun wedding while I was pregnant.

674
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: I literally, I'm sorry. Guess what.

675
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. I want to slap

676
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: this dad in the face. Snapham Pea's dad. Waw waw

677
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: waw waw waw.

678
00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna beat him up.

679
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: I was okay with them insulting me since I'd grown

680
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: up with it and was used to it, But once

681
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: my parents put their targets on my baby's father and

682
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: his family, I became upset and decided it was time

683
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: for us to believe.

684
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 3: My parents did try to petition for legal visitating Rice. Nope.

685
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: Honestly, before this whole ordeal, I did not even know

686
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: that grandparents' rights existed.

687
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: Actually, neither did I.

688
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: We've read a couple other stories where they brought Yeah,

689
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: that was.

690
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: Brought up looks like I forgot.

691
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like the grandparents, Like the there's like a

692
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: mother who was not a good mother, and so the

693
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: grandparents took over.

694
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: I guess grandparents rights for those scenarios where grandparents aren't

695
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 3: able to take over. Yes, grandparents rice exists in all

696
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: fifty states, but they very but those specific rights very few.

697
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's visit.

698
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: Honestly, before this whole ordeal, I didn't even know there

699
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: was such a thing as grandparents rice and that that existed.

700
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: But we're denied because my son is still very young,

701
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: and because both the baby's father and I are very

702
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: much on good terms, are living in the same household,

703
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: and they couldn't find or prove that there was any

704
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: danger to our son's well being. My family did try

705
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: to reach out to us, and plus, I mean I

706
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: would maybe there's no like documented proof of this, but

707
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: I would say everything, there's got to be some sort

708
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: of documentation, like text calls something of like yo you

709
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: literally as soon as I was pregnant, you like said

710
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: you're out of the family. That right, there should be

711
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: grounds like no, if they don't want you in their life,

712
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: then be gone. My family did try to reach out

713
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: to us and claim that they were horrible people for

714
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: denying my parents their grandchild.

715
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: You have literally know right whatsoever? Shut the f up.

716
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: But no one ever seemed to be able to make

717
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: a peep when a Baby Daddy's family would defend us

718
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: and point out that my family had been the one

719
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: to disown me and that no one cared to see

720
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: if I was okay until after I had had the

721
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: baby and everything was handled. My baby Daddy's mom and

722
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: my mom got into a verbal, almost physical altercation.

723
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: See baby Daddy's mom is a ride or die.

724
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: She's like, what's up? What's up? I don't just deliver babies.

725
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I deliver these hands rated e for everyone. Wha wha,

726
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: wha wha.

727
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: They almost got.

728
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: They got into a verbal, almost physical altercation after my

729
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: mom had made false reports to CPS and called the

730
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: police to do multiple welfare checks on us. My god,

731
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: my mom was given a warning by the police for

732
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: harassing us after one specific incident where she threw a

733
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: tantrum and caused a scene when police found nothing wrong

734
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: in the welfare check and refused to listen to her

735
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: demands to have my son temporarily taken away from us

736
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: and put in her custody for his safety. The baby

737
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: Daddy and I currently have restraining orders pending against my

738
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: parents and certain family members.

739
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: Hell yes.

740
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I decided to update is because

741
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: about two months ago, a friend of the baby daddy's

742
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: asked him out to have some drinks and.

743
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: They ran into his ex fiance. I literally completely forgot

744
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: all about the whole like cheating, like quah.

745
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: That's going on?

746
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Oh no, my god, Oh no, this is crazy.

747
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: So they ran so basically, the baby Daddy was out

748
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: out having some drinks and they ran into his ex fiance,

749
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: who later messaged him tell him that she regretted the

750
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: way that they ended and how she was very hurt

751
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: when she.

752
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: Heard they had a baby together, literally freaking back. Literally

753
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: f you. Oh my god.

754
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: There's never been so many people that I want to

755
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: say F you two in a story that I can remember,

756
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: my god, especially with it being so soon after their relationship.

757
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: Baby Daddy wouldn't talk to me about how he felt,

758
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: and when I asked him, he just brushed me off

759
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: or switched the conversation onto a topic about our son

760
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: that he knew. I noticed that my baby daddy was

761
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: pulling away from me, and how our relationship became a

762
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: bit more awkward and strained after they're running in her

763
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: message because I know he still has feelings for her,

764
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: and I am afraid.

765
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: Put him with put him with the X, put him

766
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: with d X. Sorry, opy No, this is a opie's

767
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: over here. Those are the two cheaters. You have, the

768
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: two cheaters, I don't know. I don't know which one

769
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: you picked. It is a matter of act one.

770
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 5: Woo is cheater girl, Yellow is cheeter guy.

771
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: Hodd uh, I did it? They were going to fall

772
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: in five seconds. M I hope you guys enjoyed that.

773
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: Sho b two doo.

774
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: I also noticed that the drama with my family has

775
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: made my baby Daddy and his family less patient with

776
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: me and my son oh No. During Mother's Day, I

777
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: overheard a few of his family members making comments to

778
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: my baby Daddy about me being at their family barbecue

779
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: since I was just my son's mom and not really

780
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: part of the family. Baby Daddy shrug just shrugged and

781
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: said I didn't have anyone else to spend the day with.

782
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: Oh Man. With how tense things have been, I've been

783
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: thinking about moving out and back into my place so

784
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: they're still moving living together. I didn't realize that, which

785
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: I could seem. I mean, it kind of sucks because

786
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: it could drive them further bar But maybe maybe now

787
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: that the dust has settled and they have a rhythm

788
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: of baby care, maybe they may be living separately and

789
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: having their own space could possibly be good. I don't know.

790
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: I stayed with the baby daddy at his place after

791
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: I gave birth, but now that our son is slightly

792
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: older and I am healed, I want to give the

793
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: baby daddy back some space so he can start dating

794
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: again if he wants to, and to give him back

795
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: some more bachelor time when I have our son.

796
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: I want to find a way to uh.

797
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: I want to find a way to to approach me

798
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: moving out and us making a co parenting plan without

799
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: making things more awkward or possibly ruining the relationship that

800
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: I have with the.

801
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 3: Baby daddy and his parents.

802
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't want them to feel like I'm not grateful

803
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: or anything, but I do want to go back to

804
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: work and get my life back on track so I

805
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: can provide for my portion of needs for my son

806
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: and not want to depend on his family for more

807
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: than what's appropriate. We have two quick wealth and comments

808
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: will close out with Candon Quayle says, be honest and

809
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: tell him exactly what you said here, honestly great advice,

810
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: that it's time for you to start your life back

811
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: on track and also give him his life back, that

812
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: you will always be co parents, and how special and

813
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: important his parents are do you and your son? Tell

814
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: him that you want a healthy relationship with him as

815
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: your son's father and wish him the best as he

816
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: would for you. Just be honest and find your new normal.

817
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: I honestly think that is actually fantastic advice. Dear Parsnip says,

818
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: I think he will most likely appreciate you moving out

819
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: and things getting back to a co parenting situation. I

820
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: don't think he will take offense or feel you are ungrateful.

821
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you are doing it

822
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: to benefit him and his family. Your son is lucky

823
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: to have two parents who love him and who mutually

824
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: and who have a mutually respectful relationship.

825
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: Sophia, where do we start? I mean, where do we start? Okay,

826
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 3: let's let's let's kind of quickly go through the biggest,

827
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: most important things.

828
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: So the beginning of this story was this like cheating

829
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: triad and hooking up and everywhere. Both people being cheated

830
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: on OP and the baby daddy. OPI and the baby

831
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: daddy honestly should have should have left them a lot quicker,

832
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and gotten out and worked on themselves. I

833
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: mean it seems I'm glad. It seems like, you know,

834
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: op was definitely OPI's like, yes, I am, I am

835
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: solid in my decision of becoming a mom.

836
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: Uh.

837
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: The dad is baby daddy is here providing for his child,

838
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: being a good present father. That is working out. But

839
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: I think they would have been just in general, a

840
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: lot better off had they let go of their cheating

841
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: exes and just moved on and invested in them delves sooner. Yeah,

842
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, that's pretty much the gist

843
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: of I think what needs to be said there.

844
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: As far as moving forward, I think that who let

845
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: me let me actually shout out to this user again,

846
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: because they really really did give some pretty good advice.

847
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: I think Tom to the talk to the baby daddy,

848
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: talk to him.

849
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Candid Quail, I think literally everything that OPI expressed

850
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: like very raw and honestly just literally repeat that back

851
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: to a baby daddy and say Hey, I just wanted

852
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: to share everything I've been thinking that's been like going

853
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: on in my head and just kind of like lay

854
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: it all out there and kind of have a conversation

855
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: on how to move forward and see what you want

856
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: and all that. I think, given how he has been involved,

857
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: I think he'll probably be pretty understanding and honestly probably

858
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: maybe grateful for the space back possibly, and I think

859
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: they'll be able to come up with a pretty good

860
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: like this. There's like this is like phase two of

861
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: their co parenting plan, whereas like phase one was like

862
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: rere birth, there was like all these complications. They lived

863
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: together to like work figure out the health problems together.

864
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: OPI was obviously the person going through all of these

865
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: pregnancy challenges. She was kind of shouldering that way. Baby

866
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: Daddy was like, hey, let me, you know, live with it.

867
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: Sounded like he was also financially providing for her and

868
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: like having her stay, which like fantastic. I think, what

869
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: a I'm proud of the both of them. I'm proud

870
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: of the baby daddy for coming together and like you know,

871
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: trying to like do what he can. And I think

872
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: they I think they come together honestly express how they

873
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: feel and figure out the best plan for both parties

874
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: for co parenting moving forward.

875
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree with all of that.

876
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: Are you sure there's nothing you want to there's nothing

877
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: you want to pick apart or maybe some some areas

878
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: of improvement that guys, if you can't tell, we're just

879
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: kind of like, this is the if you're watching this episode,

880
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: this is the end of the recording day. We have

881
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: recorded back to back and no stop left. But you know,

882
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: have you not no, have you not used the bathroom?

883
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 6: No, you need to go.

884
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 5: Why did you say anything?

885
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 6: You can?

886
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 5: You can go and you have the right.

887
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: Yes, see what this button does? All right, So we're

888
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: gonna talk to camera. Kimberly Fine.

889
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Speaker 1: By the way, Kimberly Fine has been dropping absolute bars

890
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Speaker 1: in the in the in the livestream shot lately, so

891
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: I am very curious, do we have a profit? Has

892
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: has uh Kimberly been through something similar? Do we know

893
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Speaker 1: context of Oh?

894
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 5: No, she said she was in for a call and

895
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 5: we meant to call her earlier last week.

896
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: That's that's true, that's true. Yeah, yeah, but she always

897
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: has bangers. She always has bangers. So let's let's let's

898
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: get her on.

899
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Speaker 3: The horn and have a little chat. All right, here

900
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: we go a little bit of a boom boo boom

901
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 3: boom boom boom. We're calling her Hello, Hey, how you doing.

902
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Speaker 6: Good?

903
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Speaker 1: How are you amazing? One of our top top droppers

904
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: of bars is currently on the line. Ladies and gentlemen, First,

905
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: I had to ask, uh, do you have any like

906
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: similar kind of situation, either from the cheating or like

907
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: baby situation that you've seen or gone through or anything

908
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: like that.

909
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: I've had babies, but I've also I had plenty of

910
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 6: friends that have been in precarious situations with you know,

911
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 6: the families of their baby's parent.

912
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

913
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 6: This one, it just kind of stuck out, like it

914
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 6: seems like Opie's parents cutting them off with the pregnancy, yeah,

915
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 6: and then wanting to show up after the fact. It

916
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 6: seems like everything is very much operating on, you know,

917
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 6: things being a pretty picture, and then once they can't

918
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 6: help what led them to the situation that they're at,

919
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 6: they're like, okay, we still have to make it look good. Yeah.

920
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: So insane that they that they have the audacity to

921
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: come back and think that they can see the child

922
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: after they were the ones that disowned.

923
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's that's kind of the part that I

924
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 6: have experience, and I wasn't disowned. I have a tumultuous

925
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 6: relationship with one of my parents and even got like

926
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Speaker 6: I had already gone no contact and my parents that

927
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Speaker 6: one particularly, it has only met one of my two kids. Yeah,

928
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Speaker 6: and when I had just given birth to my second one,

929
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 6: like they just you know, allowed visitors into the room,

930
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 6: like four or five of us got a mask right

931
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 6: from with a snide comment saying like, oh, thanks for

932
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 6: letting me know when they showed no interest. The only

933
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 6: reason they had even met our first child was because

934
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 6: it was convenient they got a ride.

935
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Speaker 3: Of course.

936
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Speaker 6: It just it very much had that same vibe of like, Okay,

937
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 6: this is what the situation is. I'm still going to

938
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Speaker 6: try to make it look as pretty as I can. Yeah,

939
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 6: and it seems like Opie's baby daddy, it seems like

940
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 6: he would show up regardless, but his family influence may

941
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 6: cause a bit of a hiccup. Now that all the

942
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 6: sketchy stuff like anything that could possibly throw a wrench

943
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 6: and the health of the child and all that, it

944
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 6: seems like now that that's out of the way, they're like, okay,

945
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 6: now we can throw the pretty picture away.

946
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: So what do you think Opie should do? I think

947
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: that that was honestly a major part part of the story.

948
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: So so much happened here, but that was a major

949
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: part of the store. What do you think op should

950
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: do as far as like addressing her own parents? Does

951
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: she just basically continue on the path she's on and

952
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: get a restraining order and basically do like kind of

953
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: everything in her power just to kind of get as

954
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: far away and like like no contacts as possible with

955
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Speaker 1: the parents.

956
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say no contact. If a restraining order

957
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 6: like physically seems pertinent, then yeah, do that. But also

958
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 6: one of the big issues that we had was fellow

959
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 6: family members that were still on good terms with the relative.

960
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 6: That was an issue, Yes, relaying information because he is

961
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 6: very narcissistic and like people are more or less topics

962
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 6: of conversation or like a bullet point, And the issue

963
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 6: was if they had access to any kind of update

964
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 6: or pictures or anything that makes it seem like they're present,

965
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Speaker 6: whether or not they actually are. They like to use

966
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Speaker 6: that as essentially gossip to make it seem like they're involved,

967
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 6: and that's probably the most infuriating thing is them inserting

968
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Speaker 6: themselves in a very false way. But that was that

969
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 6: was probably the biggest like aggravating factor, is like it's

970
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Speaker 6: I can come to terms with somebody not being present,

971
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 6: somebody not being involved, somebody being a tumultuous presence, but

972
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Speaker 6: I cannot be okay with or I don't know the

973
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 6: word for it, yes, anything, I'm not going to enable

974
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Speaker 6: them to give themselves a false sense of presence or

975
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 6: superiority or any of that. And that that was probably

976
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Speaker 6: the biggest issue over any threat of like a physical

977
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Speaker 6: crypt I think because I don't want the kids to

978
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 6: you know, the kids don't deserve to be made to

979
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Speaker 6: feel like this person somehow has a role in their

980
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 6: life totally that they don't recognize totally. And yeah, that's

981
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 6: that's just big.

982
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Speaker 1: Itch, yeah, or the biggest, the biggest, the biggest. Yeah,

983
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Speaker 1: I mean it's honestly such a great point that uh.

984
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Speaker 1: And honestly, something for someone in ope's position to look

985
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Speaker 1: out for or like yeah, any op or someone in

986
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Speaker 1: ope's position to look out for is like, hey, you

987
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: will you will. You might have family members that are

988
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: still in contact with you and the person you're going

989
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: no contact with and they might you know, feed information

990
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: over or like whatever else and let's like, I don't know,

991
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: do you like maybe like to try to set boundaries

992
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: or maybe cut them up just just being aware. I

993
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: think that that's really a really really good thing to

994
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: be aware of in something I'd even think about at all.

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00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: So don't really fine once once again just dropping incredible

996
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Speaker 1: insights as per usual, Thank you so much for joining

997
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Speaker 1: and sharing today on the call of course.

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Speaker 3: Have a good one bye soon bye.

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00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Well there you have, ladies and gentlemen, A great thing

1000
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: that I honestly, I was like, what else is there?

1001
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: And that honestly was a very good consideration. You know,

1002
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: if if there are family members that are in connection

1003
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: with both that could cause issues. Pinkyd this layer says,

1004
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: if they if they can violate it, if they do it,

1005
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: if they do it, they can or if they do it,

1006
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: can violate it and they can get charged. So basically

1007
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: if they write so if they like, if they basically

1008
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: do anything probably under their restraining order, like harassment, like

1009
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: oh like making false claims, Probably it's it's a high

1010
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: chance that they're violating the agreement of dead restraining order.

1011
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: Possibly probably something at least you could like go to

1012
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: go to court or or or try