1 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Week twelve is here and it begins with an AFC 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: North battle in Cleveland. Russell Wilson, Miles Garrett, Steve Weich. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: You can only choose one to join our show tonight, 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: so vote now. 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Just kidding, It'll be Steve. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: The Harvaw Brothers square off once again on Monday night. 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Winner gets an upper hand in the AFC playoff chase. Also, 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: they get their report card on the family fridge, which 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: I think is a nice touch. And we got an 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: NFC East battle to look forward to on Sunday. Will 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys bounce back or will Jayden Daniels get back 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: on track instead? Why am I asking myself all these 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: rhetorical questions when I could have my friends answer instead. 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders. It is a full house 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: here on a Thursday, alongside Ian Rappaport and Judy Battista, 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Mike Garofolo, I am Tom Pelaicero. We also heard from 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Giants quarterback slash practice squad walk through safety Daniel Jones 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: earlier today for the first time since he was benched 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: in favor of Tommy DeVito. We will get to that. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: We will get to all those big games coming up 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: in week twelve, but it does start on the lake 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: front tonight it is Browns and Steelers right there that stadium. Actually, 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm always breaking down the graphics for NFL on Prime. 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Maybe they're listening. That city actually is right behind the stadium. 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: This is geographically correct. The course of Steve White knows 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: that as somebody who's already standing on the field in Cleveland, 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: I assume that he can hear me. He took off 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the earmuffs, which I appreciate. Despite the wind, it's the snow. 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Gimme the scene here, Steve, for what looks like maybe 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: our first wintry mixed game of the twenty twenty four season. 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, Tom, you nailed it, Okay. 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: So your thermstat may say it's thirty five degrees, with 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: the wind chill says it's about twenty five. Those temps 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: are expected to hold through the game with wind coming 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: and going between twenty and thirty miles an hour. Some 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: people like to say it's football weather. I'm more akin 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: to playing in domes and climbate control. But we are 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 3: in Cleveland. But these conditions will probably take away from 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: the passing game that we know both of these teams like. 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: But it'll led to the running game style, which we 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: know is AFC North, which brings us to a story 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: within the story. This is the first time that the 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: Steelers and Brown's running back Nick Chubb will meet since 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: Week two last year when Chubb was running the ball 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: near the goal line and took a low shot from 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: Steelers safety Minka Fitzpatrick which tore several ligaments in Chubb's 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: knee and took him out for the rest of the season. Now, 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: Chubbs made an incredible rehab and initially people were saying 49 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: that was a dirty hit, but Chubb said it was not. 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: And I spoke to Fitzpatrick this week about Chubbs saying 51 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: it wasn't a dirty hit, and Mika Fitzpatrick said, first off, 52 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: Chubb's a player I admire, but a person I admire 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: more for him understanding and him knowing I did not 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: intensely try to hurt him or anybody else because there 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: was so much negative stuff said in the media which 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: made him a dirty player. He said, that's not the case, 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: and he loves the fact that Chubb stood up and 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: said that was not a dirty play. 59 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: The fact Steve that Nick Chubb is standing up literally 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: at this point is a medical miracle because that was 61 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: a very severe injury. As you said, he's playing tonight. 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: You know the crowd's going to respond when he runs 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: out on that field. Thank you very much, Steve. We'll 64 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: catch up with you again in a little bit. Has 65 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: not been a good season for the brown so far, 66 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: but has been a really good start for the Pittsburgh Steelers, 67 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: who currently sit as the number three seed. If the 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: playoffs began today spoiler alert, they do not. We do 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: have a week twelve game though, between Pittsburgh and Cleveland 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: as the Steelers try to extend their winning strinks since 71 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson went into the starting lineup, Judy, the AFC 72 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: North has been competitive, at least at the top. The 73 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Bengals struggled with finishing games, the Browns have struggled across 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: the board. But every week right now for the Steelers 75 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: there's something on the line as they try to keep 76 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: that hold on the top spot in the division and 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: a home path through the playoffs. 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they have a shot at the number 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 4: one seed still, they've got. It's a very quirky schedule 80 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 4: they have. They have seven games left, five of them 81 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: are division games, and the other ones are Eagles and Chiefs, 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: so definitely not an easy slate. Everything is on the 83 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 4: line for them every week. And I think what's going 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: to be so interesting to see tonight and going forward 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: is can they rev up that offense because we know 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: they beat the Baltimore Ravens, but they did it with 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 4: field goals. They could not get into the end zone. 88 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 4: The Steelers are averaging just two offensive touchdowns per game. 89 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: That is the fewest among any team in the NFL 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: that has a winning record, And just for comparison's sake, 91 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions averaged four offensive touchdowns per game, so 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: they are way behind. 93 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: And while they can. 94 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: Do it because defense has been stellar, it is a 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: top five scoring defense, the question is would that be 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 4: sustainable as they push deeper into December and then into 97 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: January into the playoffs or are they going to have 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: to get into the end zone. Don't forget part of 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: the reason Mike Tomlin made the switch to Russell Wilson 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: was because he wanted more of a downfield passing attack, 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: more explosive plays. They didn't get it last week against 102 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 4: the Ravens. Can they get it tonight against the Browns? 103 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: Bad weather, it certainly would suggest that the Steelers will 104 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: be able to run on the Browns a little bit 105 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: more too. 106 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not looking at this game for that in 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: large part because every time I've covered a Steelers Thursday game, 108 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: they have emphasized the run as much as possible. Short 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: week they fashion themselves as a physical team with a 110 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: physical I would say running back dul but it might 111 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: be a trio with Cordero Patterson, so they usually lean 112 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: that way on short weeks. Anyway, add in the weather, yeah, 113 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a bunch of Najie Harris, 114 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: Jalen Warren, and some Cordnero Patterson, and I believe I 115 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: believe you may see some more Justin Fields. We saw 116 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: him at the end of the game in that slide 117 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: that he had there was a yard short and then 118 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: he signaled first down, which was unfortunate. They were able 119 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: to get the first down anyway, But I think tonight 120 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: might be the night you see what they had in 121 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: mind with Justin Fields when they had a package of 122 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: play ready for him to go. Remember he tweaked that 123 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: hamstring had a little bit recently. I think you might 124 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: see more tonight, especially with this weather. And see what 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: he can do in space and get those defenders slipping around. Possibly. 126 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you could really see him speed up the 127 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 6: game by and obviously the first down signal was hilarious 128 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 6: and unfortunate, but you really could see him speed up 129 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 6: the game. Could certainly see that making a huge difference 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 6: against the Cleveland Browns. I want to talk about the 131 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 6: Browns though, because you know, Kevin Stefanski addressed some rumors 132 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 6: or noise or I honestly don't even know what when 133 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 6: he was asked this week about his job security and 134 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 6: kind of put that to the side and really didn't 135 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 6: want to discuss it. This seems wild to me. He 136 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 6: is the reigning coach of the Year, and not only that, 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 6: he also had previously one coach of the year. He 138 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 6: is a two time coach of the Year. Kevin Stefanski 139 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 6: did not forget how to coach football, just had an 140 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 6: unfortunate performance, including the fact that Deshaun Watson had you know, 141 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 6: certainly the worst year of his career and then got injured. 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 6: And you know, obviously the same last year. This is 143 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 6: the same Kevin Stefanski who led a team with Joe 144 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 6: Flacco as the starting quarterback to the playoffs. Kevin Stefanski, 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 6: to my knowledge, based on everything I know, is not 146 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 6: going anywhere. I assume people will still be asking it 147 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 6: has been an unfortunate season. 148 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: They don't have the results they wanted. 149 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 6: But I would be beyond stunned if Kevin Stefanski was 150 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 6: not the Browns coach next year. 151 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: A lot of decisions for the Browns to make into 152 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: the offseason, including what exactly to do a quarterback. At 153 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the time that Deshaun Watson still is in the early 154 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: stages of his recovery from a torn achilles and is 155 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: due ninety two million dollars fully guaranteed over the next 156 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: couple of seasons, Giants have some of the same decisions 157 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: to make, although one with Daniel Jones will not actually 158 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: cost them an additional penny. They can cut ties with 159 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones after this season. As for now, well, he's 160 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: either third or fourth on the depth chart, depending on 161 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: how you look at No, he wasn't actually playing safety 162 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: in practice, but he was doing what third and four 163 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: string quarterbacks and other guys do, which is standing out 164 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: there throwing a penny on being a crash test dummy 165 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: as the offense runs plays around you Tommy Devido taking 166 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: over as a starting quarterback, and even though Dane Jones 167 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: is still on the roster, it sure felt like today 168 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: as he spoke to reporters, he was saying goodbye. 169 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 7: Ye right, let's see. 170 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 8: The opportunity to play for the New York Giants was 171 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 8: truly a dream come true. I'm extremely grateful to the 172 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 8: Mayor and Tisch families for the chance to play here. 173 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: The Giants are truly a first class organization. 174 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 8: And I have nothing but genuine respect and appreciation for 175 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 8: the people who have built it and who helped carry 176 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 8: on that tradition. 177 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: I've met so many special. 178 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 8: People and created relationships that will truly last a lifetime. 179 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: Thank you to all my teammates. 180 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 8: Coaches that I've done so much for me these past 181 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 8: six years. There have been some great times, but of 182 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 8: course we all wish there have been more of those. 183 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 8: I take full responsibility for my part and not bringing 184 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 8: more wins. No one wanted to win those win more 185 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 8: games worse than me, and I gave everything I had 186 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 8: on the field and in my preparation. Of course, this 187 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 8: season has been disappointing for all, and of course I 188 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 8: wish I could have done more. I'm one hundred percent 189 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 8: accountable for my part. I did not play well. I 190 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 8: did not play well enough, consistently enough to help the 191 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 8: team get the results. The reality of the NFL is 192 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 8: it's hard to win games. It requires consistent performance from 193 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 8: everyone involved. We didn't do that well enough, so the 194 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 8: idea to change something happens, and I understand. I love 195 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 8: the game, I love being part of a team. I'm 196 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 8: excited for the next opportunity. I know that there's a 197 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 8: lot of good football in front of me, and I'm 198 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 8: excited about that. To all the fans, I have deep 199 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 8: respect and appreciation for your passion for the Giants. The 200 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 8: fans are a huge part of what makes play for 201 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 8: the Giants so special. 202 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. 203 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones flat line to the end, including when somebody 204 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: got stabbed ten feet away there about a minute into 205 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: that video. Judy, it's a classy move by Daniel Jones. 206 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: I can't think of a lot of similar types of 207 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: statements under these circumstances here, and he said a lot 208 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: of it himself. It just wasn't good enough. The Giants 209 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: felt like they had to make a change, and now 210 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones era effectively is over. 211 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: In New York. 212 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: It was kind of hard to watch, and actually it 213 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 4: was not flat lined all the way through, because later 214 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 4: on he was asked about the support he's received from 215 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: his teammates, and he got a little emotional talking about that, 216 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: his appreciation for his teammates, amongent the other things that 217 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 4: he said, he said that the injury guarantee was discussed 218 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: when he was told that he was being benched, and 219 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 4: he also said that there had been conversations between his 220 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: agent and general manager Joe Shane. It sounded like about 221 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: a potential contract adjustment because he wanted to keep playing. 222 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: You know, the injury guarantee is obviously hanging over this 223 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: entire thing. He said multiple times he wants to be 224 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: on the field, he wants to play. It's obviously not 225 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 4: going to be that way. This certainly sounded like a farewell. 226 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: He handled it incredibly well. But because we have so 227 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: much time left in the season, this is going to 228 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: be an incredibly awkward However many weeks it is seven weeks, 229 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: he's going to be, you know, doing what we saw 230 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: him do today, which was in a red jersey at 231 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 4: the install, lined up as a safety. I mean, it 232 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: happens this is what backups do. It even happens with 233 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: backup quarterbacks. It's just startling when it is the guy that, 234 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: for so long the Giants thought was going to be 235 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: their franchise quarterback doing it. 236 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that kind of scenario. Oh sorry, I my bad. 237 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 6: Please, yeah, you can wait your day. No, it's always 238 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 6: awkward and weird. And we've done this a couple of 239 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 6: different times. I think when Deshaun Watson had his thing 240 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 6: where he was with the Texans but basically did not 241 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 6: play the entire year, at some point it was kind 242 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 6: of moved over to the rehab field. 243 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: They really do wonder for the New York. 244 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 6: Giants what the solution ends up being here. First of all, 245 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 6: if the goal is you know, obviously they needed to 246 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 6: get better as a football team, which is why they 247 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 6: are not starting Daniel Jones, watch is why they are 248 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 6: starting Tommy DeVito. But if you hope he does not 249 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 6: get injured, that twenty three million dollars guaranteed for injury 250 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 6: hangs over you. He can also get injured in practice. 251 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 6: It's not likely, but it is possible. You don't want 252 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 6: that to happen, So you do wonder if at some 253 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 6: point the Giants, Wall say, all right, like, can we 254 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 6: come up with a solution that works well for everyone? 255 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 6: Is it something where he ends up staying away, which 256 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 6: is what happened with Derek Carr and the Las Vegas Raiders. 257 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 6: Is somehow a release Maybe if he decides to adjust 258 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 6: this contract, you wonder if someone would claim him or not. 259 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 6: Maybe he goes to waivers and then ends up signing 260 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 6: somewhere else. Potentially, There's a lot of options here. But 261 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 6: to me, the thought of him going through practice reps, 262 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 6: Mike playing safety or whatever, just kind of standing there 263 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 6: awkwardly and being there knowing that he's not going to 264 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: be there next year, it all seems a little too 265 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 6: odd to continue. So we'll see what decision the Giants 266 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 6: and Daniel Jones's agents decided to make. 267 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: Well, the practice see the injury guarantee covers him against 268 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: an injury during the game but also during the week 269 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: as well. Very unlikely for a quarterback, but it's happened. 270 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: I mean, Deshaun Watson tore a ACL in practice his 271 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: rookie season, so it can happen. So you got him 272 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: with the media watching him and standing around. But I 273 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: do appreciate that he came out that gave that statement, 274 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: but also fielded questions as well, Like you could have 275 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: just read the statement and walked off. We've seen that before. 276 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: I think Tony Romo did that when Dak Prescott took over. 277 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: So the fact that he fielded questions. You know, Daniel 278 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: Jones has been a stand up guy since he's been 279 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: been here with the Giants, and today was another example 280 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: of that. But it's also about showing the next team, 281 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: because he may have to be a number two coming 282 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: in with his showing the next team that he can 283 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: handle that kind of a situation, even if it's incredibly 284 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: awkward like this current situation. So that's a part of 285 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: it for Daniel Jones. I feel for the guy. He's 286 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: a good guy. He's got his way of doing things. 287 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 2: You know, we could have said, well, he could have 288 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: shown more emotion. I know Brian Dables said he liked 289 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: when he saw that a couple of weeks ago. He's 290 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: got a way of doing things that's natural to him, 291 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: but there is emotion deep down there, and he showed 292 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,479 Speaker 2: it today. You're right, Judy. Toward the end of his press. 293 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: Conference, Giants and Tommy DeVito taking on the Bucks this week, 294 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: Tampa team will be rested coming off there by Giants 295 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: team just trying in some way to get a little 296 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: positive momentum at a time that they're still mathematically alive 297 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: forty nine ers more than alive in the wide open 298 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: NFC West Division, but trying to get back on track themselves. 299 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Their quarterback, Rock Party, officially listed as limited in practice 300 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. He's been dealing with soreness in his throwing shoulder. 301 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan said it's not of high concern. My understanding, 302 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: and I've said this all week, is that this is 303 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: nothing that should impact Rock Party in terms of his 304 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: availability for a big game on Sunday at lambeau Field. 305 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: In other news, the NFL issued a security alert to 306 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: team security directors in the players Union Wednesday about organized 307 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: and skilled criminals that are increasingly targeting the homes of 308 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: professional athletes, including recent burglaries of Chief Stars Patrick Mahomes 309 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: and Travis Kelcey. Sources say the FBI is investigating the 310 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: crime wave as international organized crime. The alert issued on 311 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Wednesday by NFL Security offered a number of recommendations, including 312 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: not posting in real time on social media, installing security 313 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: systems and keeping valuables out of playing sight, which frankly 314 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: is good advice for all of us as well. 315 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: Week twelve kicks off with an absolute AFC North showdown, 316 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: a classic rivalry Brown's Steelers. It looks like Cleveland is 317 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: on fire there. I'm not really sure the skylines on fire. 318 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh's on fire. Can't wait for the game though. An 319 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: awful lot on the line for the Pittsburgh Steelers, who 320 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: are still in position for the number one seed in 321 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: the AFC, and there of course one of the architects 322 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Dan Rooney. The book is a 323 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 4: different way to win. Dan Rooney's story from the Super 324 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: Bowl to the Rooney Rule, written by his son Jim Rooney, 325 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: who we are very lucky to have joining us on 326 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: the Insiders tonight. Jim, thank you so much. I was 327 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: lucky to work with you early on in this project. 328 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: But one of the cool things about the audiobook, which 329 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: has just been released this week, is that you talked 330 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: to a whole lot of people for their recollections. Players, commissioners, 331 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: all kinds of people who crosspaths with your dad in 332 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: all the facets of his life. Give me some of 333 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: your favorite recollections that you uncovered in those interviews. 334 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 9: Juty, thanks, and it was such a pleasure to get 335 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 9: to work with you. You were part of the interviews, so 336 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 9: you get to hear Judy on this book. But there's 337 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 9: great interviews with Commissioner A Goodell, which I think folks 338 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 9: will really enjoy. Former Commissioner Tagliaboo, Bill Kauer, and Mike 339 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 9: Tomlin are both on, as well as so many Steeler greats. 340 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 9: You know, I have a great conversation with Rocky Blier 341 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 9: and him coming back from Vietnam and the way my 342 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 9: father kind of helped him move back into the NFL. 343 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 9: I have a great conversation with you know, Hall of 344 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 9: Famer Mel Blunt and Mel's experience at an HBCU, being 345 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 9: on HBCU campus in the heart of the Civil rights era. 346 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 9: And then the one that's that's you know, really my favorite, 347 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 9: not that those weren't all great, but you know, I 348 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 9: talked to Franco before he passed away, and you see 349 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 9: the picture of Franco behind me, and Franco Harris was 350 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 9: just such an important person in Steeler history and football history, 351 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 9: and I shared with him some memories from my family's experience, 352 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 9: because not only did the immaculate reception change the Steelers, 353 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 9: but it really changed the trajectory family. 354 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 4: I'd love to hear more about that story from Franco Harris. 355 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: I know you talked to a number of players, but 356 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: tell me more about what Franco had to say. 357 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, so, Franco and I really talked about that whole 358 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 9: his rookie season, you know, which before that, the Steelers 359 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 9: weren't very good. You know, Joe Green always says before Franco, 360 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 9: the Steelers couldn't win anything. And ever since Franco, the 361 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 9: Steelers haven't stopped winning. And I think that's true. And 362 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 9: you know that that that moment just meant so much. 363 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 9: It was such a such a change. I was talking 364 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 9: to my brother Dan, who had just listened to the 365 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 9: book and he listened to the Franco interview, and he said, 366 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 9: I remember that time between when he crossed the goal 367 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 9: line and the refs then had to go back, and 368 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 9: it was, you know, some people call it the beginning 369 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 9: of instant replay. They went to the booth and they 370 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 9: called the ref upstairs and Art McNally said, call what 371 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 9: you saw, and they came back and put their their 372 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 9: hands up, and he said it was almost like magic. 373 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 9: It went through the whole town, went through this region, 374 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 9: and like I said, it went through our family. You know, 375 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 9: it was a moment of change for all of us 376 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 9: when when the you know, the ref put his hands 377 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 9: up and said that play was legitimate. 378 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 10: All right. 379 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: You also talked to two commissioners, Goodell and Tagli. But 380 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: your father had an enormous impact on the NFL. He 381 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: was involved in labor negotiations multiple times. There's a great 382 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: scene in the book about him and Gene Upshaw sitting 383 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: at your kitchen table at your home talking about labor issues. 384 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: And obviously he was very involved in diversity efforts. When 385 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: you talk to the two commissioners who were very close 386 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: to him, where did they think he had the biggest 387 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: impact on the league? 388 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 9: Certainly labor was something that each talked about and that 389 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 9: you know, it was really a forty year span. So 390 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 9: my father was at the first meeting between players and 391 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 9: owners in nineteen fifty seven when he was twenty seven 392 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 9: years old, I think, and he was at the table 393 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 9: in nineteen ninety three when they were in front of 394 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 9: Jude Jarrol Larson and if you will, the final deal. 395 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 9: What is the basis of our labor agreement today? Where 396 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 9: you have free agency, you have a salary cap, you 397 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 9: have all these mechanisms that allow players to have some 398 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 9: movement that they never had before, and it allows teams 399 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 9: to have some type of competitive balance. They talk about 400 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 9: my father's negotiating style throughout that entire time, and that 401 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 9: he did some things that were very simple but were 402 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 9: critical to getting these deal deals done, but that he 403 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 9: was able to really convey this sense of trust between 404 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 9: owners and players, which not a whole lot of other 405 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 9: folks were able to convey during those pretty difficult negotiations 406 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 9: that went on again for many, many years. 407 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 4: Obviously, your father's name is on the Rooney Rule, and 408 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 4: be still talking an awful lot about the Runey Rule 409 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: every January seems to dominate our conversations. You talk to 410 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: a number of people who were involved, civil rights attorneys, 411 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: sports laws, uh, sports laws specialists. I wonder where they 412 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: feel the Rooney Rule is now. It's been tweaked since 413 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: it was first put in. Where the Runey Rule is 414 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: now and where it might need to go next. 415 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, Judy, and your coverage of the rule is also important. 416 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 9: You know, that this to have us where we are 417 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 9: and to have us push forward required you know, pressure 418 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 9: from a whole different set of angles and and folks. 419 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 9: So you know, the civil rights folks talked about that. 420 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 9: You know, there were some precedents for the Rooney Rule, 421 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 9: which is a concept called the diverse slate concept, where 422 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 9: you're you're ensuring that in the hiring process or at 423 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 9: least in the interview process, that there's inclusion of minority candidates, 424 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 9: and that had had come from industry. The NFL tweaked 425 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 9: it to include that you ensure that there's at least 426 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 9: one minority candidate. Now we're at beyond one for several reasons, 427 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 9: but that there originally there was at least one minority 428 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 9: candidate in the final candidate pool, and that has really 429 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 9: driven you know, it hasn't been perfect, but I think 430 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 9: in many ways it was the keystone to get everyone 431 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 9: to start saying, Okay, we have to do something more 432 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 9: than talking about this problem. And now you see, you know, 433 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 9: we had it. At the beginning of the season, we 434 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 9: had a high water mark of nine minority coaches. You 435 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 9: have a significant increase in terms of coordinators, particularly defensive coordinators, 436 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 9: special teams coaches. You now have women coaches at a 437 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 9: rate that you never had before. You have minority and 438 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 9: women referees on field. The general manager job has increased 439 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 9: to eleven. So over and over again, you see some 440 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 9: really good progress. But as you've been part of this 441 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 9: conversation and the experts have also said, you know, I 442 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 9: think there's still a pretty big concern when we look 443 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 9: at the offensive coordinator position, and I think going forward, 444 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 9: that's something we're all going to have to, you know, 445 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 9: make sure we keep an eye on and address at 446 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 9: some point, because that is the most common feeder path 447 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 9: to becoming a head coach. 448 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: All right, before we let you go, I've got to 449 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: ask you one question about the twenty twenty four version 450 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously, Mike Tomlin has had quite 451 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: a season. You're eight and two. He switched quarterbacks in 452 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 4: the middle of the season. It was questioned pretty widely. 453 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 4: I know you talked to Mike Tomlin also as part 454 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: of the audiobook. What do you make of the current 455 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 4: version of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 456 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 9: Well, I think, you know, my brother art Omar, Mike, 457 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 9: I think they do a fantastic job them making good decisions, 458 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 9: is not something that surprises me. They've been doing it 459 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 9: for a long long time, and you know, I feel 460 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 9: good about where we're at. You know, football doesn't get 461 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 9: serious to after Thanksgiving, so we'll see you know where 462 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 9: we are a couple of weeks from now. But you 463 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 9: got to feel good about going in into this time 464 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 9: of the year with this type of record. 465 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: Jim, thank you so much for joining us. Lots of 466 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 4: luck with the audiobook version of A Different Way to 467 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: Win Dan Rooney's story. It's a great story. Thank you 468 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: so much for joining us, Jim. And when we return, 469 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 4: we will have more on TNF Steelers versus Brown's classic 470 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: update on the rivalry. 471 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 6: There we go, get that field ready. There's that elf 472 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 6: hanging out in the field as the Browns get set 473 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 6: to play these Steelers in a rivalry game that I 474 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 6: cannot get enough of. Hopefully tonight the records don't really 475 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 6: matter and we get to see an excellent game and 476 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: let's talk a little more about it. Let's welcome back 477 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 6: our good friend Steve. Why Steve looking very cold? They're 478 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 6: also Baldy and Mark Ross. So I want to start 479 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 6: with Mark because we saw last week a couple justin 480 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 6: Field's plays. There was some electricity there, there was some 481 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 6: premature first down signaling, and it look it was I 482 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 6: think it was the kind of thing. Actually, I'll start 483 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 6: with weishare not Mark, She's gonna start with Weisch. There 484 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 6: was the kind of thing that I think we'd like 485 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 6: to see more of. How much more do you think 486 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 6: we are going to see that? 487 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: Steve well Ian, We could absolutely see it because look, 488 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 3: the weather could be an issue tonight. 489 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: I mean it's already changed. 490 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: The snow's already changed about four directions in the minute 491 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: I was waiting for that toss. So it is about 492 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: twenty five degrees with the wind chill. The wind is everywhere. 493 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: There's going to be snow coming down. And we know 494 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: the Steelers want to run the football, even though Russ 495 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: likes to throw the moon bombs. He's got things going 496 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: with George Pickens. So I spoke with running back Jalen 497 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: Warren and he said he thinks the running game is 498 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: going to continue to get better because with Russ, because 499 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: they've got so much more. 500 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: To learn with him. 501 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: But you add in justin fields, and we know Arthur Smith, 502 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: who loves to do kind of options stuff in the 503 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: run game. He's got packages for Justin Fields and he 504 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 3: can implement. And remember he's playing a Browns team, guys 505 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: that last week got torn apart by the Saints multi 506 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: purpose tight end quarterback Taysom Hill. Justin Fields could be 507 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: used in some of those gimmick type packages to exploit 508 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: the defense that again got fooled a lot against the 509 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: Saints last week by not your traditional type of quarterback, you. 510 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: Know, Steve. 511 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 10: The Steelers are one of those teams with a really 512 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 10: good record that's run first. They run the ball fifty 513 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 10: four percent of the time, and so the packages are important. 514 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 10: As we see Justin Fields developed, but honestly, it starts 515 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 10: up front. And the Steelers drafted three offensive linemen in 516 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 10: this draft. Two of them are starting right now. Zach Fraser. 517 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 10: I nickname him Matt Fraser because he's a state wrestling 518 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 10: champion and he takes everybody to the mat. It's just 519 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 10: a wrestling match. And then Mason McCormick, their fourth round 520 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 10: pick out of South Dakota State. Both those kids are 521 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 10: starting inside and they played really well together. They move 522 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 10: the line of scrimmage. 523 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: They wear you down. 524 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 10: They ran the ball very well, especially once Bro Kwan 525 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 10: Smith went out of the game last week. But you 526 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 10: watch Zach Fraser here there he is like take him 527 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 10: to the mat. He's not getting holding calls. It's all legal. 528 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 10: He's just like one of those wrestlers, you know, honestly, 529 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 10: Mark that they just understand leverage, they understand balance, They 530 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 10: have great feet, and I can't get enough of watching 531 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 10: a kid. I thought for the first month of the 532 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 10: season he might have been the best offensive player. Now 533 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 10: McCormick is coming on, and I think together in tandem, 534 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 10: they really kind of solidified the run game because they 535 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 10: get movement at the point of attack. 536 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 11: Well, Baldy, you know that's fairy guys. I thought you 537 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 11: want to get a little Joe Frasier in there too, 538 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 11: with Zach knocking guys out at the line of scrimmage. 539 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 11: But you know, for the Stealers, I think despite all 540 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 11: of the in and out of the quarterbacks, starting with 541 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 11: Fields and now Russell Wilson, we're really essentially seeing the 542 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 11: same Steelers team we've seen for years, which the defense 543 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 11: has to dominate and opportunistic with the special teams and 544 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 11: make some plays here and there with the offense, and 545 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 11: really it's been Russell Wilson. 546 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: With the deep balls. 547 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 11: The big question is how sustainable is that? And I 548 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 11: think Steve you pointed out maybe playing justin fields a 549 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 11: little more. This may be a little bit of an 550 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 11: audition for Mike Tomlin and Arthur Smith and the offense 551 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 11: for not just for tonight, but when they have to 552 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 11: play the Buffaloes and Kansas City's and Baltimore again, of 553 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 11: what can be the best version of our offense and 554 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 11: what can we throw at these teams. That's been different 555 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 11: in the years past, where it really is a slong 556 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 11: fest with our offense and we have to really make 557 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 11: things happen at the end with our d and special teams. 558 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 11: So I think this could be a little mix again, 559 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 11: matching with Russell and fields to see, okay, once playoff 560 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 11: times hit, once we hit these these big teams, the 561 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 11: better teams, can we beat them playing like this? And 562 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 11: how can we outscheme them with these two guys in there? 563 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 10: Fellows, Mark, let me just jump in he real quick. 564 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 10: You're in Cleveland. I remember playing a game on a 565 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 10: Monday night Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Remember how big it was. 566 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 10: Baseball infield is still there. I'm playing right guard. We're 567 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 10: in a TV timeout. We're backed up in our end zone, Steve, 568 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 10: and out of know where, these dog bones start coming 569 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 10: like they're just like whaling dog bones into our huddle, 570 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 10: and I thought, this is the greatest moment in Monday 571 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 10: night football history for me. I started picking up the bones, 572 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 10: just eating them in the huddle, going, okay, you want 573 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 10: to throw me dog, I'll eat those dog bones and 574 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 10: we'll beat you in your stadium. And that that just 575 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 10: brings back really fun good memories there, Steve. 576 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 6: You know, I'm just glad that there are two people 577 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 6: in this segment that have randomly eaaten dog bones. I 578 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: was curious to see what it tasted like when we 579 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 6: had a dog, actually we had two dogs. 580 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: Took a bite. 581 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 5: Actually not bad. 582 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 6: Could use a little more flavor, maybe some sauce. Not 583 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 6: the worst thing I've. 584 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 11: Ever had in my life, guys. 585 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 6: Not Hey, you guys are missing out. But that's okay. 586 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 6: Thank you for hanging out with us, Appreciate ate it 587 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 6: as always. Go eat some dog bones. 588 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: Okay, guys, up, let's go. How's how's a sign that 589 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: you win? 590 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: Right there? 591 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 12: Big time win? 592 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 13: And uh you never flinched, you never even never even stumbled. 593 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 13: I mean, uh, defense, played our best when our best 594 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 13: was needed. Okay, turn our best when our best was needed. 595 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 13: That's okay, play our best when our best was This 596 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 13: could be one of the best high fives ever. 597 00:30:47,160 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 12: Give each other high five, last sang, I want to say, 598 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 12: and then uh, then just go go join the heck 599 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 12: out of this is man. 600 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 13: Nobody flinched just because they got the momentum didn't mean 601 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 13: we didn't mean they had it. We got it back. No, 602 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 13: nothing can happen in that stadium that can that can 603 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 13: take us out of our game, because I'm. 604 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 14: Telling you, I'm telling you I've seen this before. We 605 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 14: get the right guys at the right time. You feel it, 606 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 14: don't you. 607 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: Why a lot to take in from that video. I'm 608 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: personally still sitting here thinking about Ian, just thinking it'd 609 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: be fun to eat a dog bone. I don't know 610 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: what happened in that segment. Jeffrey Toda is with us now, 611 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: along with Brian Baldinger Jeffrey third time. Now that the 612 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: Harbaugh brothers have faced each other in the NFL, Jim 613 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: remains winless. Small sample size, but how much cividoal does 614 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: that factor into this match? 615 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 15: Well, Jim was asked that question earlier this week, and 616 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 15: he downplayed it, saying he loves his brother, He's proud 617 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 15: of his brother, but you know, this eats at him. 618 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 15: I think even somebody referenced that John felt he had 619 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 15: a leg up winning that Super Bowl. 620 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: Back in twenty twelve. 621 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 15: But there's so much familiarity within this team with the 622 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 15: Chargers and the team they're about to faith with the Ravens, 623 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 15: not just the brothers, but just you're talking about the 624 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 15: running backs like Jak Dobbins, sab Words who played with 625 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 15: the Ravens, and Hayden Hirsch, the two coordinators, Jesse mentor 626 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 15: Greg Roman, they spend time with the Ravens, and so 627 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 15: that's really going to be a unique part of this game. 628 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 15: And the Ravens recognize us as well. They know it's 629 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 15: going to be a tough challenge. They know that Chargers 630 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 15: are built in the same image as them. Two notes 631 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 15: remember here at Baldy. One is that the parents are 632 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 15: spending Thanksgiving at the sister's house this year, and also 633 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 15: that it's the wedding anniversary for the parrots on Monday night. 634 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 15: To this day means a lot to the whole family. 635 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: Baldy, You were at that Ravens game last week against 636 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers. How to Lamar in company get back on 637 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: track against Jesse Minter's defense with the season's been one 638 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: of the NFL's best. 639 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 10: Well, they saw a really good defense in Pittsburgh last week. 640 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 10: They're going to see the best defense as far as 641 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 10: points giving up against the Chargers. And you know what 642 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 10: you get is you get really great coverage right now 643 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 10: combined with good pass rush. And so you're looking at 644 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 10: a couple of rookies, Cam Hart on one side, Tar 645 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 10: Heep still on the other side, with Christin Fulton. I mean, 646 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 10: those two rookies still in heart their fifth round picks, 647 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 10: but they don't look like it right now. They play 648 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 10: the ball in the air really well. So I thought 649 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 10: where Lamar's struggled a little bit last week is when 650 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 10: Lamar is usually great when he starts scrambling, and now 651 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 10: it's sort of the scrambled drill takes over. I thought 652 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 10: that Pittsburgh last week really plastered the receiver as well, 653 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 10: and they took Zave Flower out of the game, and 654 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 10: so look, the Chargers have the capability of doing similar things. 655 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 10: And so it remains to be seen right now if Lamar. 656 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 10: If he gets under pressure like he was last week 657 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 10: and he gets out, can he find those receivers down 658 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 10: the field and make those creative plays that were used 659 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 10: to seeing because the Chargers aren't giving those up. They, 660 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 10: like Jim Harball said right there in that postgame you 661 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 10: know speech of his, they gave up some points to 662 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 10: Cincinnati last week for the first time, but they really 663 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 10: beared down in the fourth quarter and they stopped Joe 664 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 10: Burrow in that Bengals offense series after series and kept 665 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 10: him out of the end zone, which gave him a 666 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 10: chance to win that at the very end. 667 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Baldy. 668 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 15: The Ravens are very impressed with the Chargers defense, and 669 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 15: a lot of respect is there. They talk about just 670 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 15: the depth of talent there, how active they are in 671 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 15: that front, and they recognized Joey Bosa, Killo Matt the 672 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 15: damage they can do, what Derwin James can do on 673 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 15: the back end as well. And when full back Patrick 674 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 15: mccarr was asked about how this offense can rebound from 675 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 15: what happened in Pittsburgh, he said, they just have to 676 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 15: get back to the little details, doing the things that 677 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 15: really helped them be great. You're talking about a team 678 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 15: that had three turnovers against Pittsburgh and they had six 679 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 15: all year going to that game. They had twelve penalties. 680 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 15: They did not use Derrick Henry in the same way. 681 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 15: So I think you're going to see a much different 682 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 15: mindset and they know, you know, Josh Johnson, their backup quarterback, 683 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 15: broke them down during your practice this week. He said, 684 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 15: every game going forward is a playoff game, and that's 685 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 15: how they're going to approach this game. 686 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Baldy, thank you very much. We will speak with 687 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: both of you again very soon. Coming up after this, 688 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: Jayde Daniels and the Commanders got off to a hot 689 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Start's been a little bumpy here in recent weeks. So 690 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: what does Jade Daniels think right now about going up 691 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: against Micah Parsons and a Cowboys defense that you know 692 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: is hungry for a win. We'll hear from Jane Daniels 693 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: and our Jamee Slater next on the Insider. 694 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 2: Seahawks have some adversity they're dealing with it that bomb 695 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: cyclone that hit out there in the Seattle area. They 696 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: have no power. They've got generators going, but the generators 697 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 2: not providing as much power as normally got no hot waters. 698 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 2: You know, Smith talking to the media today said you 699 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 2: got a man up. There's no sauna either. So look, 700 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 2: they've got some adversity, but they also understand that there's 701 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 2: a lot of folks in that area also dealing with 702 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: no power. So they're doing what they can as they 703 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: get ready for the Cardinals in the game for potentially 704 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: first place in the NFC West, depending on how things 705 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 2: shake out. The Cowboys are not in first place, nowhere 706 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: near it. In fact, five straight losses with the Dak 707 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: Prescott injury just adding to the issues. Cooper Rush remains 708 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: the starter. Here is Mike McCarthy on Rush in the 709 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: entire Cowboys. 710 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 7: Team, Well, you never know how resilient they're going to be, 711 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 7: because I mean, you have to go through the fight 712 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 7: to find that out. And I think these guys are, 713 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 7: particularly the locker room most importantly, have just really stayed 714 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 7: the course just with all the different moving parts. So 715 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 7: I've been I've been very impressed with their with their 716 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 7: workout that and ability just to stay after it. 717 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, on the other end of this game, how about 718 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: the Commanders. Big faves against the Cowboys in this game 719 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: because Jade and Daniels in this upstart Commander's team, which 720 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: that start has been stunted the last couple of games, 721 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: but looking to get back on track, and Jayde and 722 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 2: Daniels knowing in order to deliver the pass, you got 723 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: to make sure I see right there, there's pass rushers 724 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 2: that can get on you, like Mica Parsons. 725 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 16: Mike is a game changer. Everybody knows that. Everybody sees that. 726 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 16: They move them around so he could impact the game 727 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 16: in different ways. He might move from a three technique 728 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 16: to rush is stand up, might stand straight up over 729 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 16: the center. So they move them around a lot to 730 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 16: get them on some matchups. But I mean, you got 731 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 16: to always be aware of a guy like that. You 732 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 16: only gave records wreck the game. So obviously we got 733 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 16: to go out there and identify where he's at. But 734 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 16: we got to go out there and execute our game 735 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 16: plan too. 736 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: James later coming in to join us Jane, and to 737 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: be covering the game this weekend, Mark Ross with us 738 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: as well for a front office perspective. Jane, Look, you 739 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 2: got a rookie quarterback there in Washington, but you've got 740 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: a familiar face in Dan Quinn. So what are the 741 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: Cowboys saying? About this matchup against the Commanders this week. 742 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 17: Yeah, and I'm generally excited to talk about this matchup 743 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 17: on Sunday. Some really great stuff and talking to some 744 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 17: of Jayden Daniel's teammates, but a lot of great stuff 745 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 17: about dan Quinn too, Mike. I mean, if you'll remember 746 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 17: here in Dallas in twenty twenty, one of the worst 747 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 17: defenses that Dallas had ever had. You get Dan Quinn 748 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 17: in here, and he turned it around in his three 749 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 17: years an energy guy. According to his rookie quarnerback Mike Sandscherle, 750 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 17: he said his first impression was that he was a BMF. 751 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 17: I had to ask, what did that mean? It's a 752 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 17: quote bad oh? And then you know what, I can't 753 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,479 Speaker 17: say that here a TV. 754 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 5: There you go. Wide receiver Terry. 755 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 17: McLaurin told me it's his authenticity that stands out. He 756 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 17: treats the chef downstairs, the trading staff and players all 757 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 17: the same. And he said the one thing he initially 758 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 17: remembered about Dan was him saying, quote, if you're a 759 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 17: dog ass competitor, this is a place for you. 760 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 5: He said. 761 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 17: He just sat back in his seat and smiled to 762 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 17: himself because he said he had been waiting for an 763 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 17: environment like that. I even asked Jordan Lewis about one 764 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 17: of his impressions about dan Quid, and he said every 765 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 17: week he would challenge them to be great, so great 766 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 17: that he would remember every single player's hometown and say, hey, 767 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 17: Jay Lou, you want the Detroit Free Press talking about 768 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 17: you performing on this play? He said it was just 769 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 17: those little details that always told you that his coach 770 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 17: cared about him. Now, look, Dallas is obviously trending in 771 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 17: a completely different direction these days, and we're likely not 772 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 17: going to see the Cowboys featuring two of their guards 773 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 17: out there. We're waiting to see where Tyler Smith is 774 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 17: going to en up. Will he play, will Zach Martin play? 775 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 17: And then they're also looking to be missing Jake ferguson 776 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 17: their tight end who had a concussion. So we'll get 777 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 17: an official diagnosis on those guys tomorrow and whether they play. 778 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 17: But you know, when we start talking about just really 779 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 17: this offense for the Cowboys, they're really really struggling with 780 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 17: getting the ball out some of these deeper passes. I 781 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 17: think Cooper Rush now is only four for twenty on 782 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 17: passing attempts that are ten yards or more, we went 783 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 17: and looked at Jayden Daniels this season, he's completing about 784 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 17: fifty seven percent of those. So the one thing that 785 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 17: stands out talking to both the Cowboys defensive players as 786 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 17: well as the players in the building in Washington, Mark 787 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 17: is just how confident Jaden Daniels is and more importantly 788 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 17: his preparation. What stands out to you, as someone who's 789 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 17: evaluated players in your past, about the way he's come 790 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 17: in as a rookie, Well. 791 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 11: Those first nine games he played so well, Jade, and 792 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 11: the expectations were so high that these last two he 793 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 11: wasn't terrible. 794 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 2: You know, he wasn't terrible. These last two games. 795 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 11: He played the Steelers and the Eagles arguably the two 796 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 11: of the top three four defenses in the league. 797 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 2: And yes he did struggle some, but he still was poised. 798 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 11: He still had the opportunities to make plays. And you know, 799 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 11: his poise is really the biggest asset for me, and 800 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 11: then the playmaking comes along with it. But I think 801 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 11: for Jane Daniels to get back to how he was 802 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 11: playing those first nine or even spurts these last two 803 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 11: is for the commander's offense to run the ball and 804 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 11: you know, against the Steelers they only had sixty yards 805 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 11: rushing in two point seven yards per carry. Against the Eagles, 806 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 11: they only had ninety three yards rushing, eighteen came from 807 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 11: Jayden himself and only averaged three point three yards per 808 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 11: carry rushing the ball. So I think that Commander's offense 809 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 11: really feeds off of. 810 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: That run game. 811 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 11: B Rob there missed the game against the Steelers, So 812 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 11: if they get back to running the ball and where 813 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 11: Jayden doesn't have to throw it thirty plus times per 814 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 11: game as he did the last two games, that's really 815 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 11: the best version and of their offense. And nothing really 816 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 11: to get right for that rush offense for the Commanders 817 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 11: playing the league second worst the rush defense and the 818 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 11: Cowboys giving up one hundred and fifty one yards per game. 819 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 2: Jane, all right, So Jane, last week Terry McLaren didn't 820 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: see the football very often. The Eagles Quinya and Mitchell 821 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: helping them shut him down there. We know they want 822 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 2: to get him the ball this week. So from the 823 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: Cowboys and they've struggled to limit big plays, how are 824 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 2: they going to approach this one with McLaren on the 825 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: other side. 826 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 17: Well, what will help the Cowboys is We talked to 827 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 17: de Ron Bland today, So Trayvon Diggs is getting somebody 828 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 17: over there on the opposite side at corner to help 829 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 17: him out. I feel like at times, Trayvon Diggs is, 830 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 17: you know, getting burned by the fans here because this 831 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 17: tape shows that he's not getting to one of these 832 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 17: guys in time where he's not tackling well. 833 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 5: I think a lot of times he's just trying to 834 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 5: do too much. 835 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 17: But man cover could be an issue when you're going 836 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 17: up against McLaurin, might need two players to make things 837 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 17: uncomfortable because he's trusting his quarterback and vice versa. 838 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 5: And it shows. I was looking at one tape against 839 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 5: the Bengals, he. 840 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 17: Had two guys tight coverage, he gets fifty five. 841 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 5: Yards in the end zone. 842 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 17: According to NFL Pro he's gave a leaky one hundred 843 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 17: and eighty five yards across twelve tight window receptions, with 844 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 17: four resulting in a touchdown, and of his six touchdowns 845 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 17: four on vertical routes, two of those going deep in 846 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 17: a twenty seven yard one to the right, get an 847 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 17: eighteen one yard to the left. I ask Gary Terry 848 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 17: if he's making a comeback and he sort of left. 849 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 17: There's a lot of humility with Terry. That's what I 850 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 17: love about him as a wide receiver. But he said, 851 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 17: look some of this stuff, we're seeing some flashes. 852 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 5: He says. 853 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 17: In the off season he really drilled down on focusing 854 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 17: on the fact that opposing defenses are playing more zones. 855 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 5: So he's cleaner at the top of his routes. 856 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 17: He's getting in and out of his brakes a lot 857 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 17: more efficiently, and he's working on his release work. But 858 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 17: Micah Parsons in them had nothing but big things to 859 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 17: say about McLaurin. They say, if there's one thing about him, 860 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 17: he's been consistent. He's a thousand yard receiver guy every year. 861 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 17: And what's remarkable about him. I had to go and 862 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 17: double check this with stat He's done this with having 863 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 17: twelve different quarterbacks over the year. 864 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 5: Now finally got one. 865 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 17: And as Micah Parson has put it, he's going to 866 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 17: get another one thousand yards this season. He'll just get 867 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 17: there quicker and faster because of who he's got throwing 868 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 17: in the ball. 869 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 2: Love it, Thank you, Jane, thank you mar Getting ready 870 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 2: for this matchup this weekend NFC East the Commanders again, 871 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 2: Big Thames against the Cowboys. 872 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 4: Judy, the Miami Dolphins are four and six. They are 873 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 4: still in the wild card mix. They're two and two 874 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 4: since Tom returned from his concussion, and they have the 875 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 4: third easiest remaining strength of schedules, So things are shaping 876 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 4: up pretty good for the Miami Dolphins. They face the 877 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 4: New England Patriots this weekend. And to discuss that, we 878 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 4: welcome in our very own Cam Wolf, who is around 879 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins as much as like Dan Marino is 880 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 4: around the Miami Dolphins. 881 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 2: Cam. 882 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 4: What are the Dolphins going to do to try to 883 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 4: spark the offense They've they've certainly looked better since two 884 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 4: a return, but they're still not where they were last 885 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 4: these and what can they do to get there? 886 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 18: Yeah, Judy, they were in a big hole to start 887 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 18: the year two and six, but last couple of wins, 888 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 18: we've seen a different level of team, and I think 889 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 18: it starts with accountability. I was at the Dolphins facility 890 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 18: this week trying to get a gauge of where they 891 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 18: are as a team, and there was a couple of 892 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 18: situations brought up to me. Raheem Moster, who had been 893 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 18: there starting running back for much of last year and 894 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 18: this year has had a lesser role because of a 895 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 18: couple of fumbles. That's a level of accountability that Mike 896 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 18: McDaniel and the team are having. David Long, who was 897 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 18: a team captain for them a starter earlier in the year, 898 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 18: was benched and then released in recent weeks due to play. 899 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 18: That's another level of accountability. This is a team that 900 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 18: had super high expectations, but I think at midseason they 901 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 18: realized that they had to look themselves in the mirror 902 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 18: and take accountability. And so I think that's what you're 903 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 18: seeing right now in this uphill swing. They still have 904 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 18: a long way to go. Tyreek Hilltoll reporters in the 905 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 18: locker room. They have no margorine for losing. They can't 906 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 18: lose any more games. They're four and six, one and 907 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 18: a half games back of the Broncos and that wildcard 908 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 18: race also looking up at the Colts, who already beat 909 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 18: them and have the tiebreakers. So there is a small 910 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 18: light that says hope and potential playoffs. But they got 911 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 18: to be really good down the stretch for this team 912 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 18: down the way. 913 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 2: All right. 914 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 4: One of their wins, though, came in Foxborough earlier in 915 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 4: the season against the Patriots. That is when Jacoby Brissette 916 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 4: was still the Patriots starting quarterback. Obviously, they have made 917 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 4: the change to do rookie Drake May, who's looked pretty 918 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 4: good as a matter of fact, since he's been starting. 919 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 4: What's he going to face from the Dolphins defense? 920 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 18: Though, Yeah, Judy, you're right, this has really been a 921 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 18: place where Miami is dominated in New England, getting back 922 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 18: to Tom Brady, especially in Miami, this has really been 923 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 18: a house of horrors for them, so to speak. But 924 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,479 Speaker 18: this is the first time the Dolphins will face Drake 925 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 18: May and the Patriots, and talking to some of the 926 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 18: Dolphins in the locker room this week, they were really 927 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 18: impressed with Drake May's proficiency really as an accurate passer. 928 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 18: He's only had five full starts, but he has really 929 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 18: high level accuracy numbers on target with his placement and 930 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 18: his running ability presents a threat for them and that's 931 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 18: something they've struggled with in the past, and so they're 932 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 18: going to give him full respect. They're not treating him 933 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 18: like a rookie that they can confuse and take advantage 934 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 18: of him. They view this as a quarterback they're gonna 935 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 18: have to face and get fits with for years and 936 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 18: years down the line. And so the one guy who's 937 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 18: really been a center point for this defense is Kalais Campbell, 938 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 18: thirty eight years old. He's playing his best ball of 939 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 18: his career. Mike McDaniel joke this week. I went to 940 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 18: high school with him. He's still playing at a huge level. 941 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 18: He has been the leader of that back end and 942 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 18: a guy who has helped this defense even in times 943 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 18: when the offense wasn't able to help the team. And 944 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 18: so they're going to continue to lean on guys like 945 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,760 Speaker 18: that on Sunday against New England. 946 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 4: They're lucky to have Kalaeis Campbell. Love Kalaeis Campbell, camp Wolf, 947 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 4: thank you very much. 948 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: Well, first he saw it on the field some we 949 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: had never witnessed before, Saquon Barkley, the spin move, reverse 950 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: hurdle move. Well, if it's in the game, I'm told 951 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be in the game. So here's Madden 952 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: so recreating it. You can now pull off this move 953 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 1: on the football field, which in rapport, I assume means 954 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: that your sons will now be attempting this on the field. 955 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 6: Should end well, I mean they attempt it all the 956 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 6: time in the house, socks on the floor here thought, No, 957 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 6: here's my thing, Judy. So for NFL players, they can 958 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 6: just kind of do whatever they want, any ridiculous thing, 959 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 6: knowing that Madden's going to take it and put it 960 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 6: to the game. This really adds kind of like a challenge, 961 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 6: like if they'll put the Saque hurdle in, what weird 962 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,919 Speaker 6: on field move is next? 963 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. 964 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anybody's topping Saque, but I 965 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 4: look forward to seeing the answer.