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<v Speaker 3>Podcast Episode two Welcome back, Welcome back. Thank you guys

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<v Speaker 3>for tuning into episode one. Continue to let us know

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<v Speaker 3>your feedback. But we appreciate you guys, But we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get right into it. It's a second week, second episode,

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<v Speaker 3>So Troy when we started.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start at the end, let's started to propose, and

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<v Speaker 4>then the government shutdown, the longest shut down in the

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<v Speaker 4>history of the United the United States, thirty five days,

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<v Speaker 4>eight hundred thousand federal workers without pay, lost to paychecks.

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<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a terrible story, just the testimony to hear

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<v Speaker 4>some of some of these federal workers losing out on

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that they couldn't pay bills, the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>they couldn't afford food. I mean, you saw these stories,

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<v Speaker 4>countless stories on the news in the recent weeks, and

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<v Speaker 4>it rose our attention as to something that we've heard before.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was one of the lines that jay Z.

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<v Speaker 4>Said, in anticipation for precipitation, staped chicks for a rainy day,

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<v Speaker 4>and that rainy day could be anything. It could be

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<v Speaker 4>a government shut down, it could be a loss of

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<v Speaker 4>a job, it could be a death in a family.

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<v Speaker 4>So those rainy days we have to prepare for. And

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<v Speaker 4>what better way to talk about that than you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with our financial advisor about that what things we could

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<v Speaker 4>put in place to plan for these rainy days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's a real world example.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you said that, jay Z's line is it's classic

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<v Speaker 3>for a few different reasons. But I know we quote

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<v Speaker 3>jay Z a lot, but he says a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>good things if you actually take the time to listen.

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<v Speaker 3>When he said in anticipation for precipitations, chips for a

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<v Speaker 3>rainy day, what he's really saying is that you got

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<v Speaker 3>to put some money away, right at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, You got to put some money away in

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<v Speaker 3>case of these type of situations. But it really highlights

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<v Speaker 3>a broad a point where a lot a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately in America, you know, live paycheck to paycheck, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So what happens that the danger in that is that

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<v Speaker 3>when that paycheck stops, you're screwed, right, for lack of

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<v Speaker 3>a better word. So you know, you saw a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of government employees on food lines and they couldn't eat properly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they was, they couldn't pay their rent, they

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't do anything. And that really comes down to that

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't have money saved, right. And one of the things,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's hard to save money if you live

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<v Speaker 3>paycheck to paycheck because the money that you get is

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<v Speaker 3>the money that you're spending, right, So how do you

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<v Speaker 3>ever save money if you don't have enough money to

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<v Speaker 3>actually save and it's.

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<v Speaker 5>No fault of their own right. A lot of Americans

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<v Speaker 5>are in that position.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we can't say that because each individual situation is different.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it is some as fall right, Sometimes it's not

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<v Speaker 3>there fora sometimes it is therefore, because you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>might spend money on frivolous things, or you might not

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<v Speaker 3>you know, pay yourself first, you might not budget.

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<v Speaker 2>So can't we can't just say that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying in that term.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying in terms of they did a job right,

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<v Speaker 4>they worked through this shutdown and did not get paid

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<v Speaker 4>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>The government shutdowns is a lesson in the government shutdown,

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<v Speaker 3>so because you can't rely on anything really right. So

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<v Speaker 3>the government shutdown was something that was just in the news.

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<v Speaker 3>But people lose their jobs every day for a variety

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<v Speaker 3>of different reasons, and so that that could be their

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<v Speaker 3>government shutdown. This was just something that affected a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people. But it speaks to a broader sense of

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<v Speaker 3>being prepared, right, because this is something that could happen

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<v Speaker 3>to anybody, whether you're a government employee or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially in one of the lessons that obviously we just

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<v Speaker 4>said prepare for that rainy day, but also having one

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<v Speaker 4>stream of cash.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, right, once that one stream is.

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<v Speaker 2>Done exactly, that's that's yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's one of the one of the books that

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<v Speaker 3>one of the first finance books that I read when

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<v Speaker 3>I was probably like eighteen years old, was multiple streams

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<v Speaker 3>of income. And really what the book was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>was having multiple streams of income, right for just this reason.

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<v Speaker 3>They say the average million that has between I think

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<v Speaker 3>four to seven streams of income because they understand that

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<v Speaker 3>if one thing falls apart, they need something else to

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<v Speaker 3>fall back on.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, there's a lot of different lessons that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we can learn from in this unfortunate situation for government shutdown.

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<v Speaker 3>And another thing to point out is that unfortunately, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these workers were African American, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And it highlights even a broader problem in the country,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the wealth gap.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So we talked about the way I talked about the

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<v Speaker 3>wealth gap before, but I don't think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people don't fully understand how bad the wealth gap is.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have country like in a sense, it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>let's yes, people are living to paycheck to paycheck, but

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<v Speaker 4>let's start dealing with some of the root causes. Why

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<v Speaker 4>are we living paycheck to paycheck?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>So, the New York Times had an article where they

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<v Speaker 3>had a few research study that showed the average black

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<v Speaker 3>families networth or seventeen hundred dollars, the average Latino family

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<v Speaker 3>networth was nineteen hundred dollars, and the average white families

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<v Speaker 3>networth was one hundred and sixteen thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>But even in the statement, I remember you telling me

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<v Speaker 4>this over the summer, and I was even I was

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<v Speaker 4>a bit cof you.

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<v Speaker 5>I was taking them back, and then when.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought about it, I'm like, oh, okay, wait, somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>net worth is more than somebody's rent or less than

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<v Speaker 4>somebody's rent.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 4>But to understand it is to understand what networth is

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<v Speaker 4>and what goes into that and how that's even accumulated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so networth, Yeah, networth is assets minus liabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of time we hear like celebrity networths,

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<v Speaker 3>And you said, like, people might see a celebrity and

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<v Speaker 3>that networth is ten million dollars, right, but they think

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<v Speaker 3>that that person has ten million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>In the fact, we heard we heard Charlotte Matne say, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I go to a celebritynetwork dot com and it says

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<v Speaker 4>I'm working. He said, I'm worth twenty one million. I

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<v Speaker 4>do not have twenty million dollars exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So networth is your assets minus your liabilities. Your assets

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<v Speaker 3>is something like your home, if you have investments, retirement,

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<v Speaker 3>that's an asset, right. Your liability is something that you're

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<v Speaker 3>spending money on, so your debt, so if you have

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<v Speaker 3>credit card debt, your mortgage, all that stuff. So a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times people have negative networks, right because if

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<v Speaker 3>you have if you have one thousand dollars in savers

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<v Speaker 3>and you got five thousand dollars in credit card debt,

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<v Speaker 3>now you have a negative networth for four thousand dollars, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what it comes down to. That's what that's

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<v Speaker 3>how they measure networths in America. The reason why there

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<v Speaker 3>is a lot of different reasons why the wealth gapage.

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<v Speaker 4>So that number again one hundred and sixteen thousand to

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen hundred, you said seventeen hundred, seventeen hundred, So that

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<v Speaker 4>huge disparity.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the interesting the interesting thing about that is that

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<v Speaker 3>the wealth gap now in America is actually larger than

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<v Speaker 3>it was in nineteen ninety in South Africa. So for

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<v Speaker 3>people that don't fully understand the history behind that, South

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<v Speaker 3>Africa used to have a political system called apartheid, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and apartheid was legal discrimination based on race, whereas if

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<v Speaker 3>you were black, you wasn't allowed to own a home,

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<v Speaker 3>you wasn't allowed to start a business, you wasn't allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to have a farm. So they was legally it was

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<v Speaker 3>illegal discrimination.

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<v Speaker 5>That it was legal, and we've seen similar things like

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<v Speaker 5>that here, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that was legal. Like a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>that were done here were under the veil of laws

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<v Speaker 3>put in place but to make it harder and they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of masket. But South Africa that they had no apology,

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<v Speaker 3>like this is what we're going with. So the wealth

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<v Speaker 3>gap is worse now than it was in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 3>in South Africa. That says a lot, right, So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think people fully understand the ramifications of that. But

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<v Speaker 3>one of the real world effects is what we see

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<v Speaker 3>the government workers. Right, So these a lot of times

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<v Speaker 3>we have negative network so we have very small networks.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we're putting these situations where we lose our job,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a crisis. One week can make it a crisis

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<v Speaker 3>one month, you can mipe be on the street. That's real,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what. So this is something that we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about saving, investing, pay yourself first. It's not just something

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<v Speaker 3>that we just talk about. This is something that it

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<v Speaker 3>really matters in real world scenario and a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>different factors how people Because people a lot of times

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<v Speaker 3>they say like, well, what makes up a person's network,

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<v Speaker 3>or like how do you determine the net worth?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the number one way is home equity.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so there's a few different ways, but there's three

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<v Speaker 3>ways for the average America. There's three ways that a

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<v Speaker 3>person will measure them network or what makes up a

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<v Speaker 3>person's network, and that's home value, right, And that's also

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<v Speaker 3>retirement accounts because that's so most people their investments that

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<v Speaker 3>they have is in a retirement account like a four

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<v Speaker 3>to one kit at a job. And then it's inheritance

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<v Speaker 3>that they might get from passing a relative or parent

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<v Speaker 3>whoever leaves them inheritance. So the problem in our community,

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<v Speaker 3>African American community, black community, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 3>is that we lack in all three right, A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of times we don't own the place that we live in.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're renting, so we can never have that as

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<v Speaker 2>a value.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't fully fund or don't fully understand our retirement,

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<v Speaker 3>so we don't put enough money into that, so later

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<v Speaker 3>on down your line, you don't have a nest egg

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<v Speaker 3>saved to your retirement. And the biggest way, the most

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<v Speaker 3>effective way to leave an inheritance is life insurance. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times we don't have insurance, right, so not

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<v Speaker 3>only when we die, are we not leaving somebody monny,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're leaving them debt they actually have to pay,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's actually hurting them when we die. And you

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<v Speaker 3>got to go to your religious organization and asks people

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<v Speaker 3>to donate and do different things. So that's three ways

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<v Speaker 3>right there that we fall behind and that that affects us.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as talking about the network, so all of

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<v Speaker 3>it ties in. All of this stuff ties in. We

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<v Speaker 3>talk about a lot of that. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about a different suff on this podcast as the weeks

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<v Speaker 3>goes on, and even as this episode goes on, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's important to talk about real world situations and real

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<v Speaker 3>world problems that affect the average person, not just a

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<v Speaker 3>celebrity or not just you know, a CEO of a company.

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<v Speaker 3>But the average working people, because that's the majority of

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<v Speaker 3>the people, right. So these are real world problems that

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<v Speaker 3>are affecting us, affecting our community, and affecting the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Not just our communities, it's affecting the whole nation. So

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<v Speaker 3>the wealth gap is something that should concern everybody, whether

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<v Speaker 3>you're a black cousin. I want to get this clear too,

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<v Speaker 3>because the message of financial literacy is for the whole world,

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<v Speaker 3>is for mankind, right. It's not limited to one race

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<v Speaker 3>of people, but the struggles of any race of people

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<v Speaker 3>should affect every race of people, right, So the struggles

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<v Speaker 3>of black people in America is bigger than just black

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<v Speaker 3>people's problem. It spills over into every other community, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's everybody's. Everybody should be alarmed by this statistic, and

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<v Speaker 3>everybody needs to play a part and improving the conditions.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of it starts with education, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of it starts with education. So even like

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<v Speaker 3>teaching with the kids with the school and learning about

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<v Speaker 3>finances and learning about what the four to one k

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<v Speaker 3>is and learning, a lot of this stuff starts with education.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why we're here as well. The properly as.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember one of the most important lessons you did

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<v Speaker 4>with our summer program was you talked about the federal

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<v Speaker 4>spending and you saw how much we spent on defense

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<v Speaker 4>and how much we spend on education. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>you pose a question, what would it look like if

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<v Speaker 4>the roles were reversed, right, what if we spent more

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<v Speaker 4>on education.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we spend like thirty percent of the budget something.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't quote me this around that like thirty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the budget the national budget goes to defense, the military,

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<v Speaker 3>were like four percent goes to education.

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<v Speaker 5>Is even less.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, okay, what you know. That's a that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's telling right there. We spend thirty on protecting I

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<v Speaker 3>guess you want to call it protecting our borders and

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<v Speaker 3>fighting wars overseas and the military and the Navy. You

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<v Speaker 3>know it's important, but we spend four percent on education.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, telling, right, And so like when our students saw that,

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<v Speaker 4>they were like dumbfounded by it. But I said, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is one of the messages we conveyed

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<v Speaker 4>to them. It's like, look, if you want to see

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<v Speaker 4>these things change, then you got to fight for these things.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to fight for them. But you're the next generation.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta fight for them as well. So that's important, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, so yeah, so that right, okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the government shutdown.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's very interesting that the shutdown has has ended

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<v Speaker 4>at this time of the year because you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>is a.

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<v Speaker 5>Busy travel time.

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<v Speaker 4>The busiest airport in the country, Hartfield Jackson in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>saw workers calling out at an all time rate. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>these these people were furloughed, they were working without pay.

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<v Speaker 4>I think ten percent of the TSA called out, which,

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<v Speaker 4>in turn, right, you're fighting for national security or you

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to open the government until you have money

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<v Speaker 4>for a wall, but the people who work at your

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<v Speaker 4>airports are calling out, which is a national security emergency

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<v Speaker 4>in itself.

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<v Speaker 5>So I can imagine what the mayor of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>Who who is the mayor of the obviously the city

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<v Speaker 4>with the largest airport, what she's thinking at a time

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<v Speaker 4>like this when she has a huge event that's about

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<v Speaker 4>to happen in her city in the next week or so.

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<v Speaker 4>So with that, you know, so we're going to super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't we don't talk about the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we start talking some super Bowl. Let's just get

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<v Speaker 3>this clear. We're not taking a stance on super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>either way. If you choose to watch the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>not no problem with that. If you choose not to

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<v Speaker 3>watch the super Bowl, have no problem with that. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not endorsing the super Bowl or we're not even bashing.

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<v Speaker 2>The super Bowl. Everybody has a right to do what

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<v Speaker 2>they want and to make their own decisions. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, that's a hot topic right now with

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Kaepernick. Can you know, of course we support.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, But like all things in life, we can learn

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<v Speaker 3>from the business side of what's going on in the

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl. And one of the biggest aspects of the super.

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<v Speaker 5>Bowl outside of the game, outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the game is super Bowl ads.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, right, So yeah, let's talk about that because marketing

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<v Speaker 3>is something that I always had a passion for and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that business, any business that you're in, marketing

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<v Speaker 3>is important plays a part no matter what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to find a way to market yourself and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of different ways that you can market yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>But studying the Super Bowl marketing is an interesting case study.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when we looked at it, it was pretty astonishing.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw a few things and we're going to get

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<v Speaker 4>into that of how marketing is changing and how it

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<v Speaker 4>looks on a large scale. So the Super Bowl obviously

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<v Speaker 4>is the most watched single sporting event in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>Last year it average one hundred and thirteen million viewers,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, which was actually a dcline from twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>when they had one hundred and fourteen million, which was

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<v Speaker 4>an all time record. I think the Patriots versus Seahawks

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<v Speaker 4>was the game, but one hundred and thirteen million viewers.

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<v Speaker 4>So obviously, marketing teams and firms know that this is

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<v Speaker 4>the time where we can get the largest amount of

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<v Speaker 4>people concentrated on one thing. It's a live event, which

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<v Speaker 4>means you can't fast forward through it.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have to sit through the commercials.

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<v Speaker 4>So what has happened over time is people have spent

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<v Speaker 4>large amounts of money to get their ads on during

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<v Speaker 4>the commercial breaks of the Super Bowl. In two thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>the average costs for Super Bowl commercial was two million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Right last year, the commercials were going for five point five.

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<v Speaker 2>Million sixty seconds thirty thirty for a thirty second clip.

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<v Speaker 3>So five all right, So five point five million for

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<v Speaker 3>a thirty second.

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<v Speaker 4>And not that that doesn't include the cost of making

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<v Speaker 4>the ad. So sometimes you have these over the top

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<v Speaker 4>commercials with movie stars and all types of explosives and stunts.

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<v Speaker 5>On top of paying those people, you got to pay

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<v Speaker 5>just to put it on TV networks.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so is it worth it?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see so we can we can talk about a

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<v Speaker 4>few companies that have done this model, and yeah, it

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<v Speaker 4>has worked for some of them. I obviously Budweiser's has

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<v Speaker 4>been doing this for multiple of years.

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<v Speaker 5>They're probably the king of the two book commercials.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this year they bought eight slots sor right,

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<v Speaker 4>So if they bought eight slots and five five million

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<v Speaker 4>you talking about forty million dollars just on commercials. The

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<v Speaker 4>reeols will be doing their same thing. So those companies

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<v Speaker 4>obviously household names, we know them.

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<v Speaker 5>Then you have companies like.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Daddy, game changer.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to talk about Daddy a little bit game changer.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so Go Daddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Go Daddy probably has the one of the best marketing

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<v Speaker 3>campaign for Super Bowl history.

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<v Speaker 5>Right when they've been hit a miss, they started with they.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit Okay, So go Daddy's interesting for a few different levels, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because before Super Bowl, at least I didn't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Daddy was right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they started their first Super Bowl add in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three overnight. Everybody knew who they were,

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<v Speaker 3>so anybody that's not familiar with Go Daddy there. They

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<v Speaker 3>host websites, so they had an add in two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and five that was banned. At least half of it

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<v Speaker 3>was banned. Pretty much it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost a half naked yeah woman. It was like a

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<v Speaker 3>half naked woman in front of Congress and a shirt

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<v Speaker 3>kept falling off. It was crazy. I actually watched to

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<v Speaker 3>add on YouTube. And but the interesting thing about it

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<v Speaker 3>is that they had to know that that was never.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to get approved.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, it was worth the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's worth the risk.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's even more so it's like they say, any

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<v Speaker 3>publicity is good publicity. Right, So now you have a

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<v Speaker 3>company who because when your ad is banned, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's still on so on the internet, it's still on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's media saying that the ad got banned, so

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<v Speaker 3>that everybody wants to see what got banned. What it

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<v Speaker 3>is like, It's like a movie that is banned from

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<v Speaker 3>TV or banned from the movie theater. Everybody's gonna want

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<v Speaker 3>to go see what that movie is about, because why

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<v Speaker 3>has it been so go daddy, And so I say

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<v Speaker 3>this to say it had nothing to do with actually

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<v Speaker 3>website hosting, right, but it worked, right, they became a

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<v Speaker 3>household name overnight, and then they followed up you want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about the bar RAFAELI.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So they do the two thousand and five campaign

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<v Speaker 4>with the congressional hearing.

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<v Speaker 5>Then they make an important move.

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<v Speaker 4>They get a sponsor, right, so they get somebody that

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<v Speaker 4>is going to endorse their company.

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<v Speaker 5>They take Danik K Patrick, whoge at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Dannik Patrick. For anybody that doesn't know, a legendary NASCAR

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<v Speaker 3>driver who is a woman, and that's very rare in NASCAR.

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<v Speaker 3>So she I don't know if she's if she's still

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<v Speaker 3>involved with NASCAR but I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think she retired.

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<v Speaker 4>She's now the fiancee to Aaron Rodgers, is she yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so she becomes the face of GoDaddy. So they still

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<v Speaker 4>run the Super Bowl campaigns. But then, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty thirteen, they have the Perfect Match campaign where

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<v Speaker 4>they have the super mal bariality kiss this kid who's

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a nerd and again has nothing to

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<v Speaker 4>do with the website hosting, is just the imagery that sells,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like this becomes the most popular commercial. So

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<v Speaker 4>from that, the next day after the super Bowl, they

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<v Speaker 4>watched their website gain increase on certain which is they

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<v Speaker 4>get ten thousand new customers, thirty five percent increase of

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<v Speaker 4>the mobile use of mobile use.

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 2>They had their best day of their best day ever

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 2>after that, and it wasn't.

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Just a kiss. It was like it was like thirty

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 3>to the whole commercial with them kissing. It was very

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 3>awkward situation to watch. Barbrafieli is a is a Victoria

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Secret model, right, and it was this guy. He was like,

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.399
<v Speaker 3>he's like an actor, but he always plays like the nerd,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 3>the geek type dude. So they just randomly start making

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 3>out for thirty seconds and that's the ad.

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:35.199
<v Speaker 5>That's it.

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 3>Literally within hours, Go Daddy's website. Spike's crazy. And like

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 3>you said, the next day they hosting one up forty

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 3>five percent, Domain one up forty percent, New mobile thirty

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.479
<v Speaker 3>five percent. They added ten thousand customers. They literally had

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.959
<v Speaker 3>their best day ever after that ad, which had nothing

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 3>to do with anything.

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 2>It really had nothing to do with anything.

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 5>It was just a kissing ad.

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>They had a supermodel kissing a nerd.

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, brilliant.

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.959
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So like that works, and then they run some

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 4>more ads and then up until twenty sixteen, they realized like,

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 4>all right, they.

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 5>Don't need it, we don't need it anymore. We're gonna stop.

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 3>They made they made their money already, they made their

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 3>notoriety and they left.

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so then from that it's a success.

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 4>But then you got companies like Wix, which is another

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 4>hosting like a website similar to gold Daddy, that decides

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 4>to put this over the top campaign.

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 5>They hire Gal Gadol.

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 4>She is a superwoman, a wonder woman. I said superwoman.

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 4>She's a wonder woman. So that had just came out.

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 4>They get her, she's one of an A list actress

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 4>and they see no Spike in fact, their numbers don't

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 4>do anything. And what the Super Bowl ad did was

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 4>get traffic to their site, but customers didn't buy anything, right,

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.679
<v Speaker 4>So that's you paid four million dollars five million dollars

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 4>and all you got was traffic. Whereas we've seen other

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 4>strategies that have been working in recent time of how to.

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Make marketing well, the game the marketing game has changed absolutely, right,

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Like the old fashioned way of marketing is to get

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 3>in a magazine or get on TV and have an ad,

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 3>but that's changed now social media.

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Social media has changed the game. Social media is changed,

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 4>specifically the influences.

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Power of influencers, power of them, power of influences. I

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 3>like to do case studies a lot. Like anybody follow

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 3>me on Instagram, I like. I like case studies because

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm just I just think it's interesting to examine different

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 3>business models and how people work. So one of the

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 3>things that is interesting to me is a fashion over. Right,

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure everybody has heard of Fashion Over. But

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 3>if you haven't heard of Fashion Over, it's a clothing

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 3>clothing brand. They have actually have men's line.

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 5>Now they have a men's fashion over.

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 3>They used to just be straight women so fashion Over

0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 3>is interesting as a case study for a few different reasons.

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 3>But all right, so let's do the backstory on fashion Over.

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 3>So fashion Over actually starts in two thousand and six.

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh right, So the owner of Richard Shedding I think

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 3>his name is, he opened the store in California and

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 3>more in California two thousand and six, right, and it

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 3>was regular store and then you know it wasn't doing anything.

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Within the last three years, fashion over has exploded. So

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.479
<v Speaker 3>in twenty thirteen they opened. They have their website. They

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 3>started their website in twenty thirteen, and write it when

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 3>they start their website. They started with Instagram. This is

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 3>like the earlier days. Twenty eleven, I think Instagram becomes

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 3>like popping, popping, But twenty thirteen is when they got on.

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 3>They were early adapters into Instagram. Right, So here's the

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 3>brilliant here's the brilliant thing that fashion Ova did. So

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 3>they started at the top down, meaning they got a

0:27:55.880 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 3>few a lists, very big name social media influences and

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 3>they pay them. Right, So they had Kylie Jenner, Courtney

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 3>car Chloe Kardashian right, and Cardi B a couple others.

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 3>So they got a list influences, right, they paid them

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 3>and they made fashion over blow up, right, because it's

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 3>like if they're wearing it, if they're endorsing it, it

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>means something.

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 3>But the thing about fashion Ova that people don't realize

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 3>is that they actually have an army of influencers. So

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Fashionova actually works with anywhere from three to five thousand influences, right,

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of them, most of them don't get paid.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Most of them don't get paid. They get free merch

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 3>That's how they get paid.

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Because if you think.

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 3>About fashion Over, if you really look at Fashionova, they

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 3>weren't with anybody like you might see somebody with ten

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 3>thousand followers, another person with one hundred thousand followers, somebody

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 3>were foxed out and they all through fashion Over like

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 3>as it looks like an ad, right, Like I'm just

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 3>having my fashion Ova jeans for what the it was

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 3>that they made it. They made it like almost a

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.719
<v Speaker 3>privilege to promote their brand. Because once they had Courtney,

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Chloe Kardashian and Cardi B and everybody else wearing it,

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 3>that was a list. Now everybody that's aspiring to be

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 3>there wants to put on fashional and.

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 5>To that credit.

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 4>They their thing is like, hey, we'll make the celebrity

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 4>look affordable. So they've taken that model, that model, and

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 4>they've just expanded on it.

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 5>Right, So they've gotten these influencers, they've made the clothes.

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 4>That they like and to women and men, now will

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 4>a tea will say like this, these clothes fit amazing well.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 3>And the thing about that is that so they make

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 3>a thousand items a week, but they have an interesting

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 3>model because they don't they use nine hundred different producers

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 3>to make their clothes in La and China, So they

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 3>have nine hundred different menu factorers in La and China

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 3>making a thousand pieces a week for them. They put

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 3>it out and it goes straight to Instagram. So it's

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 3>constant new content and it's constant new product. So the

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 3>turnover is crazy. But they actually have over three billion

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 3>Instagram impressions every single month because like I said, they

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 3>have three thousand of five thousand influencers that are promoting

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>fashion ovah, even though most of them aren't getting paid.

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Because like I said, the most brilliant thing that they

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 3>did was actually make it a privilege to promote their friends.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 3>You should be seen in our clothes exactly.

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 5>Fashional. So we've seen influence get paid before.

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 4>And one of the big stories of the past couple

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 4>of weeks has been Fire Festival on Netflix. And for

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 4>those who don't know what the Fire Festival documentary is about,

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 4>it it's about a man, Billy McFarland and Jo Rule

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 4>have an idea now on service to the idea makes

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 4>a lot of sense. It's fire dot Com is supposed

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 4>to be a site that bridges booking agencies and artists, right, so.

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 5>No longer do you have to have the miliment.

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 4>I think Billy in the documentary says he had to

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 4>pay somebody to talk to Ja Rule. Didn't have to

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 4>pay another guy to talk to Ja Rule. And so

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 4>he said, you know what, rather than going this method,

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 4>let's just cut the middle man out and let's create

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 4>something where I can talk directly to the artists, have

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 4>their schedule and say can I book you on a service?

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 5>Great idea.

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a great idea to promote the site,

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 4>they decide to create a festival, hence the title Fire Festival,

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.479
<v Speaker 4>which would which was supposed to be uh sort of

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 4>like a Coachella, but on a deserted island an island

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 4>that that he said he had owned in the Bahamas.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 3>So they wanted they want so they want to throw

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 3>a music festival in the Bahamas to promote the app.

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that's what that's what they want. That's what they

0:31:58.840 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and they figured so they were smart about it.

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 4>They said, listen, rather, we'll get some marketing teams, but

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 4>the biggest way to promote something now is through Instagram.

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 4>Just like you said with a fashion over, the best

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 4>way to do it, let's go through influencers. So they

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 4>have ten supermodels, like Top of the Mine, supermodel Shanelli

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Monits one of them.

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 5>Bella Indide was one of them.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 4>And they said, you know what, can you just put

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 4>up this orange burnt square as the logo for what

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 4>we're about to do? Right and every day at this time,

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 4>can you put it up? And they do it and

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 4>it gains traction. They hashtag at the fire festival, and

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 4>then they do something really smart, right, they say, Hey,

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 4>who's the most popular person at the time or one

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 4>of the most popular persons or families at the time. Kardashians,

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 4>and they reach out to Kendall Jenner and tell her, listen,

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 4>we're going to give you two hundred fifty thousand dollars

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 4>if you could just say you're coming to the Fire

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Festival to promote it.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>So they paid.

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 3>They paid Kendle Jenner two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>to put a post up. Just suppose I'm excited about

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Fire festival.

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 4>Right right, she does it, and I mean, the tickets

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 4>sell out within ten hours. They sell out so fast

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 4>that they have to start making other accommodations like listen, I.

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 5>Know you got the tickets for the festival. Here's the

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 5>VIP passes.

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Then they'll sellout and they realize that they don't really

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 4>have the money.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 5>To do this. Then they have to start coming up

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 5>with other ideas. Now you got a.

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 4>VIP bracelet, and it's a whole saga. It's an unfortunate

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 4>story because the idea on the surface of the app

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 4>was great.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 5>The execution of the festival horrible.

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people were devastated and affected by it,

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 4>and it is a complete box. They ruined the entire thing,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 4>like people were showing up, they were sleeping in tense.

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 5>It was terrible.

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 4>And from that lawsuits start coming out, right, so they

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 4>start trying to sue Billy McFarland rule is called in

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 4>a lawsuit, and then Kendall Janner gets caught in a lawsuit,

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 4>and that's when it becomes interesting because people were saying, Hey,

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 4>we booked our tickets with the hopes that you were

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 4>going to be there. That's the only reason we did it.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 4>So like, if he's guilty of something, so were you

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 4>because you promoted it. And all the other supermodels who

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 4>were part of it also get that lawsuit, and it

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 4>sparked something that is really really evident, really key in

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 4>the way that Instagram does things. Now from that we

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 4>get the hashtag ad right, so she's not found guilty

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 4>at the time of anythrowingdoing, but going forward, Instagram says, look,

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.879
<v Speaker 4>if you're going to promote something and you don't want

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 4>to be held liable for it, you must tell us

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 4>that this is an AD.

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 3>I hold that us an add because the interesting thing

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 3>with that is that so in twenty twelve, high an

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 3>idea for a fashion blog. I was there, right, And

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 3>the reason why I had the idea for the fashion

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 3>blog is because I was following a fashion blog on Instagram,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 3>fashion page on Instagram, and I noticed that they were

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.800
<v Speaker 3>putting up ads without it actually making it seem like

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 3>it was an AD. And I'm like, this is brilliant

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 3>because what they were doing is that there was like

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 3>a look book, so they will put like different looks

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 3>up and then every like five posts they would have

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 3>like let's say a woman would a dress and they

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 3>were like, it would just be like a regular AD,

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and then they would say like where you can get.

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>The dress from.

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 3>Most people didn't really fully understand what was being done,

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 3>but when I saw it, I saw I said, Okay,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 3>they're paying her to put this up and it's camouflaged

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>as a regular post, but it's actually an AD, so

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 3>that it sounds simple now because we're used to seeing that,

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 3>but in twenty twelve that wasn't normal.

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 4>I think after that then they started putting the little

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 4>tags when you pushed the button on the dress, then

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 4>it would tell you where to get it from.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I think that came later later, so but that's what

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<v Speaker 3>Kendall Jenner was and essentially that's what she did, right

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<v Speaker 3>because she said, I'm so excited, I can't wait for Firefest.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really an AD, but it's not really an AD

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<v Speaker 3>right because it's like, okay to the people that's viewing it.

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<v Speaker 3>They like, if she's saying she's excited, it has to

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<v Speaker 3>be it got to be something. This has to be

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know she got paid a quarter million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>to say I'm so excited for this.

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<v Speaker 2>So now the federal government changes the law.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is why today you see either at the

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 3>top of the post it says paid advertisement or in

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 3>the actual caption it has hashtag AD because now you

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<v Speaker 3>have to have full transparency and to say this is

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<v Speaker 3>an AD because it was a very great life. If

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 3>you see a commercial on TV, you know it's an AD,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you see a print on you know it's

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<v Speaker 3>an AD. But if you see somebody's Instagram Paige, you

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<v Speaker 3>might not know it's an ADD or.

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<v Speaker 5>Not right, So you get a bunch of things.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the fire Festval, it was the herbal Teas,

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<v Speaker 4>it was the waste trainers, like there.

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<v Speaker 3>Was verbal te verbal t's and wayte trainers like game Changer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like those things were just popping up and it

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<v Speaker 4>was like like, oh, okay, yeah, we knew that all along,

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<v Speaker 4>but like now you have to say it. And then

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<v Speaker 4>from that Facebook and Instagram, like wait, these regular everyday

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 4>people are putting up ads. Now, we're gonna stop putting

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<v Speaker 4>up ads in your posts. So like now when you

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 4>go through your Instagram, there's ads everywhere. Every like every

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 4>four posts is an ad, right, And that starts from Hey,

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 4>if they're gonna do it, we're gonna make money too.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's how they monitor, that's how they monetize the

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<v Speaker 2>social media.

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<v Speaker 4>Were gonna figure this out. We figured it out. People

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<v Speaker 4>figured it out first. You're making money, no, no, we

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 4>gotta make money too.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that was always the plan with social

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 3>media to add because that's the only way you can

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<v Speaker 3>really make money off of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I taught a class about that, where they're selling your attention.

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<v Speaker 3>So you bring your attention to social media and based

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<v Speaker 3>off of that is free. But nothing in this world

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<v Speaker 3>is free. So you're paying for it with your time

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<v Speaker 3>and they're selling your time to company.

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<v Speaker 4>Valuable asset of your time you can't get but most

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 4>that's the most like you can't get that back.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Okay, all right, So yeah, we touched on

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of different things this episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Final word, Yeah, final word.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to make it clear that even though

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<v Speaker 4>that the government shut down has ended, it's only temporarily,

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<v Speaker 4>like the President said, in three weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>If he doesn't, there's no compromise. The government could be

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<v Speaker 5>shut down again, So people.

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<v Speaker 4>Should really take heed to that, and some of the

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<v Speaker 4>things you said earlier obviously would definitely be beneficial. But

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<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of things that are on the

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<v Speaker 4>line if we get shut down again.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't rely on the government.

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<v Speaker 4>They could write so federal courts could run out of

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<v Speaker 4>operating money to run the daily business. Food programs are

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<v Speaker 4>in jeopardy of shutting down free lunch programs for schools.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of things online if we get

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<v Speaker 4>locked down again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, So we'll ended with jay Z's line again.

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<v Speaker 3>Just want that to sink in and anticipation for precipitation,

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<v Speaker 3>stacked chips for a rainy day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important.

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<v Speaker 3>It's important people, So once again, thank you for joint

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<v Speaker 3>We will see you guys next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace.

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