Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sillers podcast with your host. Now funk that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses, Malone. So last time we were talking, I
Speaker 1: was telling you that I was saying that I felt like, well,
Speaker 1: minus my feelings, I don't think women right are I
Speaker 1: think statutory rape is a victimless crime, right, and it's
Speaker 1: not the same women aren't. Well, that's I guess that's
Speaker 1: the question. Are women really being taking advantage of I
Speaker 1: don't think they are. I think they're making the quality
Speaker 1: decisions at that age. I think men are violating the
Speaker 1: law right. So I think men that commits statutory rape
Speaker 1: is a bit you know, weird and ship and creepy.
Speaker 1: But I don't think women are as choiceless in the matter.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's even as much as they don't
Speaker 1: know what they want. You know, what does that makes sense? Like,
Speaker 1: because when women as they get older, they still kind
Speaker 1: of want the same exact thing they start I do,
Speaker 1: forgive me. So I do think there are situations where
Speaker 1: some women are getting took advantage of young girls, but
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the majority of the conversation when
Speaker 1: it comes think that's like rape and self just well,
Speaker 1: statutory rape is weird, right because it's called like if
Speaker 1: your parents are proven, it's not really a crime. So,
Speaker 1: like we're talking about R Kelly. R Kelly got charged
Speaker 1: on the Child Pornography Act, the Federal Child Pornography Act,
Speaker 1: where if you record somebody younger than six teams in
Speaker 1: the sexual Act, that's a Child Pornography Act um. More
Speaker 1: times than not, in the United States of America, there's
Speaker 1: more states that are sixteen. Is that's the legal age
Speaker 1: of consent that you can consent to sex independently. Some
Speaker 1: states a seventeen caliph on your rs as eighteen. So
Speaker 1: when you hear the turn statutory rate, it's really rooted
Speaker 1: in your parents. You don't have you're not of legal
Speaker 1: age to consent to have sex. At seventeen. You're not
Speaker 1: of legal age to consent to have sex. I mean
Speaker 1: you you can't legally consent to have sex. So if
Speaker 1: someone has sex with you again and you didn't you know,
Speaker 1: no matter if you said O care not for me,
Speaker 1: it could be considered statutory right, That's what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: don't smoke at all. You pa'ss that thing all the wever.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was saying. Well, R Kelly, So
Speaker 1: when we're talking about R. Kelly specifically, and you you're
Speaker 1: saying he them girls are victims, you know they're not.
Speaker 1: Because I was speaking as like, being fourteen years old,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you're you don't have that mentality
Speaker 1: or the adultnesship to make those type of decisions of
Speaker 1: what you really want. Shouldn't be up there. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be out at at fourteen. You should be focusing
Speaker 1: on school. Right, But I already knew that it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I know because I'll be reading so much. Right says
Speaker 1: that every every other state has the right, um, the
Speaker 1: limit is eighteen. But in the US, um, you just
Speaker 1: there's no limit if you have your parents consent or
Speaker 1: a judicial to a period. Because most parents wouldn't consent
Speaker 1: to that. Yes they do, even the women that are
Speaker 1: even the women like I feel like the parents that
Speaker 1: do give their children over their money hungry, and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the old school. Like around my grandmother's age,
Speaker 1: I feel like they used to get their children up
Speaker 1: to older men for money reasons. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think they made money. I think genuinely that the world
Speaker 1: was you started faster, like I think our our are
Speaker 1: obviously of of you know, and I'm not a parent,
Speaker 1: so I can't really, but I think we definitely like
Speaker 1: to keep children younger today and then we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: shit about them being other countries, they do push you
Speaker 1: to grow up faster, you start working early, you start
Speaker 1: being an adult way because you already you know it's
Speaker 1: funked up, because right, it used to be women would
Speaker 1: have periods around thirteen four, two years old, all its
Speaker 1: hormones and food ship now girls, so that was literally
Speaker 1: the natural time of beginning womanhood. But obviously white folks
Speaker 1: start with the food ship ships happening way too fast.
Speaker 1: But there is a questionable desire, right that's going on
Speaker 1: right when you even let's say, like you were saying
Speaker 1: you were fourteen and some older guy was on you,
Speaker 1: right sure, which was just crazy as my age. What
Speaker 1: about the sex brothels where they're breeding children just so rich,
Speaker 1: disgusting man did have sex. I don't even know where
Speaker 1: that's it. I know it's real, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's not real. It's obviously real, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: I don't want to get that far into that crazy ship.
Speaker 1: I feel like even without a law, without a cap,
Speaker 1: there is something in me nobody needs to tell me,
Speaker 1: just like how I feel like you already have God
Speaker 1: in you. You feel you know, it feels good, you
Speaker 1: know what's what feels wrong? Like I feel like, as
Speaker 1: a man, you should know that being thirty five years old,
Speaker 1: nobody has to tell you because to me, I feel
Speaker 1: like the law is already written for the white man.
Speaker 1: This is because they're into this type of perversion and
Speaker 1: ship like that. Like, I feel like you should know
Speaker 1: that if you're thirty five years old and you see
Speaker 1: at fourteen year old girl, why why does that attrack you?
Speaker 1: Like the law says okay or not? Shouldn't it already
Speaker 1: be like to you? Like, why why are you attracted
Speaker 1: to ye? The only thing you can drack from a
Speaker 1: child is to use them, abuse them and whole. But
Speaker 1: it's different, it's different. This is a child. He's only
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not disagreeing, but again, you're you're asking
Speaker 1: a question to somebody that I cannot understand why somebody
Speaker 1: would date somebody eighteen right, But but we were talking
Speaker 1: about it last time, right in force some backup in
Speaker 1: the spot Hill Joey west Side l A Giants of course,
Speaker 1: my co host Asia red Pete on Hiatus to Date,
Speaker 1: feel me no challenge the local um in the spot
Speaker 1: like that. What I'm saying is I agree with you
Speaker 1: in his mind. I think his mind is the mind
Speaker 1: that's messed up. The difference is when we're talking about
Speaker 1: a fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year old woman's mind,
Speaker 1: I don't think their mind is messed up. That's the
Speaker 1: point I'm saying to you. They're making the same choice
Speaker 1: they will make. No, no, no, I get what you're saying,
Speaker 1: because us even at at you're still looking for that
Speaker 1: same exact thing that you were looking for when you
Speaker 1: were that age. Now the man the difference is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is your child, So you're just looking you
Speaker 1: know at your surroundings. Are people that you older women
Speaker 1: that you see you looking at them to trying to
Speaker 1: find your way. You don't really know yet. You're still
Speaker 1: learning this world, so you really don't know exactly what
Speaker 1: it is that you want. And if you have a
Speaker 1: parent or a guardian or someone that's looking over the
Speaker 1: right way, you wouldn't go in that direction, but that's
Speaker 1: not true or Kelly situation. That's my point. The parents
Speaker 1: literally okay, so let's let's be honest, right, yeah they
Speaker 1: were looking. Yeah it was not but like I said,
Speaker 1: some of them do that in other countries to their children.
Speaker 1: Right now, y'all looking at women, right, rid, you got
Speaker 1: a daughter, brid you got a daughter to right, you
Speaker 1: have a son, so you don't know, I mean you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah you got a daughter, don't have one? And
Speaker 1: if you did, would you allow you? This is not
Speaker 1: even this is not realistic. IM not saying it's okay.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the man. I think men are
Speaker 1: messed up. I think men vicariously so men try to
Speaker 1: live through young women. That's how they feel like they're
Speaker 1: holding onto their youth. It's weird and creepy. It's not
Speaker 1: worth being young that much. I mean, I guess the
Speaker 1: thought of avoiding death is where they think it lies.
Speaker 1: Another way to do it though, but it's not actually
Speaker 1: going to work at all, And you really think about
Speaker 1: you're not really holding it. Yeah, but it's not it's
Speaker 1: not it's not that it's it's it's all kind of
Speaker 1: like an are you saying that as females were so
Speaker 1: mature that we know at a young age what we want.
Speaker 1: I think you keep that's the point I'm saying the
Speaker 1: government so like, like speaking for myself. When I was
Speaker 1: in middle age, in high school, teenage, yeah, I knew
Speaker 1: that I wanted an older guy because I knew I
Speaker 1: was going to be provided for. I didn't date guys
Speaker 1: my age. Yeah, and that's pretty much the truth. I
Speaker 1: knew what I wanted at a young age. My sister
Speaker 1: told me. My sister told me. She said, the guys
Speaker 1: my age and the older guys want the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: The only difference is the older guys have a car
Speaker 1: and some money. And I'm not saying it's okay for
Speaker 1: the guy, like I'm not fighting against the law. The
Speaker 1: law is the law for a reason. I genuinely think
Speaker 1: women are gonna make bad decisions. They hold life as
Speaker 1: a child, and so as a child be years old,
Speaker 1: that was a bad decision. No, But I think that's
Speaker 1: you the consistent decision you'll make. I think we wosponsibility.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made that to be my pregnant. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been like the kidnapper was coming up or
Speaker 1: a little kids with candy or somebody and the kid
Speaker 1: ain't exactly. But I don't I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: really exactly. I don't know if that's that's what you
Speaker 1: just said. That was a great analogy. Yeah, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna attract women with money their whole life. It's attractive.
Speaker 1: So like Sylvia at fourteen, Sylvia at twenty four, Sylvia
Speaker 1: at thirty four, Sylvia at forty four, is gonna always
Speaker 1: be attracted to money. Now at fourteen, did she know
Speaker 1: what really money looked like? No, all she knows is
Speaker 1: somebody to have more money than fourteen year old a girl,
Speaker 1: four to ye old girl. But she's still attracted to money.
Speaker 1: She's still attracted to, you know, finances we're not talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly the situation that I was putting. Had I had
Speaker 1: a stable, I wouldn't have tried to find it in
Speaker 1: a older adult. Even right now, as in the dog,
Speaker 1: you still look for me to take care of you
Speaker 1: because I've already built my personality starting so young where
Speaker 1: it's already there. Say it right now, hopes to find
Speaker 1: a manner take care of her. I don't know. I want.
Speaker 1: My goals in life is to be very, very independent
Speaker 1: and not need anyone for ship. I don't want that's
Speaker 1: but that's not dating for a potential because I want
Speaker 1: to build somebody up and I just want to be
Speaker 1: built up and appreciate. It's not the fact that I
Speaker 1: need there that's It's not that I need someone to
Speaker 1: do this because before I even had someone, I've always
Speaker 1: been care of myself. I have my own apartment, like,
Speaker 1: so I don't need it. This is what I've been
Speaker 1: want because I definitely don't want to work a nine
Speaker 1: five and have a little bit of nothing and really
Speaker 1: getting by. Yeah, why not to do it? I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not Again, these are finishing you complaints from each side.
Speaker 1: Of course, you want somebody to say you just home. Listen.
Speaker 1: You just don't like the terminology because it makes you
Speaker 1: feel helpless. But it doesn't mean yes. But I know
Speaker 1: you like the terminology bothers you because it makes you
Speaker 1: feel like you're helpless. That's not true. It really is somebody.
Speaker 1: You ought to think when somebody asked to marry you.
Speaker 1: For the most part, and I was explaining this to Joy,
Speaker 1: if you ask to marry somebody, you're pretty much asking
Speaker 1: a woman to let me take care of you for
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. I want to. But when
Speaker 1: they try to say but they just change me and
Speaker 1: tell me that this is right and this is wrong,
Speaker 1: like let me beat me, let me say what I
Speaker 1: want to say and do. There's no it's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to consider, like if what you're saying is
Speaker 1: right or wrong? And if do you tell your kids
Speaker 1: what to do? Not really like to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to crush her spirit, and like
Speaker 1: whatever she naturally has inside her, I want to magnify it.
Speaker 1: Like she's very confident right now, so I want to
Speaker 1: keep that. And why I feel like, why are you
Speaker 1: that way? Because I felt like I wasn't as confident
Speaker 1: as she is. You know, she looked at herself and
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, yes, you know. I don't want
Speaker 1: to kill that. But sometimes she she thinks she's too
Speaker 1: grown and she could do what I do, and I
Speaker 1: have to put her in her place. But why because
Speaker 1: she cannot do what I Why because she's a child.
Speaker 1: She literally can do everything you can do. I mean
Speaker 1: from that perspective, yes, of course, technically how she can
Speaker 1: do She's not even thinking about that that's not even drugs. Like,
Speaker 1: but but I'm saying to you, you know, the opportunity
Speaker 1: so obviously not a ten year old child, right, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be thinking about sick. You're not even but
Speaker 1: it's putting their face on all plas. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: don't matter. Like once you start having administruations and puberty,
Speaker 1: the innate desire to procreate coming to play, Like even
Speaker 1: if you don't pay attention, you start feeling is weird.
Speaker 1: That's why men start jagging off real Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I just brushed up against it. But that's my point.
Speaker 1: We were talking about that earlier when this has happened,
Speaker 1: that the food is sucking shut up, and it's forcing
Speaker 1: it earlier. So I'm not I'm not necessarily referring to
Speaker 1: that seven years old you're like fully develop walking around
Speaker 1: here with assent titties. It's the hormones that yeah, the kids.
Speaker 1: So no, what I'm saying on that level is I
Speaker 1: think you make this so now is it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: against the law. Yes, you know, I think men at
Speaker 1: a certain place, Um, I don't have to have a
Speaker 1: kid to not agree with that law. I mean, like
Speaker 1: like I don't have to have a kid to agree
Speaker 1: with the law. I understand the concept of the law
Speaker 1: as a man thirty five years old is looking at
Speaker 1: somebody for a team, no matter how developed she is.
Speaker 1: Soon she started talking to realize she's sucking for Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't care about them. But again, something inside of
Speaker 1: a man that's thirty five, if you're okay with that.
Speaker 1: And there's some men who really love women at fourteen. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I used to Guys used to
Speaker 1: sit outside of my junior high school in their cars
Speaker 1: waiting on us to get out of school. And they
Speaker 1: were all adults. So that's just weird, right, And and
Speaker 1: I know guys like that, But I think what I've
Speaker 1: got from those older dudes that I remember they were
Speaker 1: trying to live like, So I think this is what
Speaker 1: I think I could be being judgmental. Forgive me to
Speaker 1: all the dudes out there that's doing this, even though
Speaker 1: you're a little weird. Though I'm not trying to judge you,
Speaker 1: but I genuinely think your penis is small, right, So
Speaker 1: you're like you're trying to get something fresh or something
Speaker 1: I don't like understand why, Yes, they control the older ones, Yes,
Speaker 1: work when you deal with a older what you want
Speaker 1: to get baby? Right? So you have you ever heard
Speaker 1: a woman you can control? Joey, But it's not if
Speaker 1: you wanted to manipulate every woman all the time. Have
Speaker 1: you can no manipulate every last woman that's been in
Speaker 1: your life if you wanted to truly manipulate them and controlled. Yes,
Speaker 1: if it's just listen, if it's no whole bar, so
Speaker 1: you have no conscious idea of worrying about what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Every woman can be controlled by me, not every woman.
Speaker 1: I've never been tamed in my life. But that's that's
Speaker 1: the point, right, And I got you early. So now
Speaker 1: you feel like you you don't want to be you
Speaker 1: you I will not, I will not. But that's again
Speaker 1: that's because every woman, but that only you're not being
Speaker 1: tamed now, how you think in your mind and not
Speaker 1: in my mind? I know for sure? Yes, huh? I
Speaker 1: think you know you can't because if somebody can manipulate you,
Speaker 1: you're being Yeah, she's been manipulated multiple time. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: a kid is younger, you can't do it now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's different because now you're not. Now you won't
Speaker 1: even let love happen because at the some place you
Speaker 1: think somebody always trying to manipulae. So then that's not
Speaker 1: the same. You just traumatize. You're not telling whatever it is,
Speaker 1: I cannot be you tell me yourself like you tell
Speaker 1: me yourself. You're like, I'll show this nig nigga, Like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to marry you. That nigga. You think
Speaker 1: you nigga trying to take advantage of me. Ni what
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna be opening my door? You think
Speaker 1: you will be opening my door for me forever. Nigga, Me,
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna change. Ye're gonna change ship. You'll marry
Speaker 1: me and put me in the house. Who do you
Speaker 1: think you're playing with? Nigga, I'm gonna listen to you.
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me, nigga, you're gonna take out
Speaker 1: the trash heavy week? Do you think you slick? He's
Speaker 1: like himself out the trash. They meet me and it's
Speaker 1: a motherfucker man, he said lovely when he gets to us,
Speaker 1: I get I like, yeah, but that's but that's what
Speaker 1: does You went through something? Yea so so so then
Speaker 1: you actually making me you're making me reconsider my thought
Speaker 1: because at a certain place. If it harms you, then
Speaker 1: you do become a victim. So if you're harmed by
Speaker 1: what happened with you choosing that, you know the older
Speaker 1: guy right with your fourteen year old brain, and it
Speaker 1: it's harmed you, right, because that's what you're saying, it's harmed.
Speaker 1: You didn't there is a victim. Most fourteen year olds
Speaker 1: are harmed, That's what I'm saying. So I didn't know
Speaker 1: you was harmed. So that's dope to find out. That's
Speaker 1: that's a really good thing, you know. That's the that's
Speaker 1: the trauma. That's something. Trauma is something that will make
Speaker 1: you have your guards up. Of course, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's crazy. So but do you like so
Speaker 1: do you only like today older men? Now? No? Because God,
Speaker 1: she's been Dave forever and it's like, okay, and I
Speaker 1: met him in junior high school. She won't let that
Speaker 1: nigga love him. You think you're sticking you borm me
Speaker 1: these flowers, nothing gonna happen. Yeah, okay, So he's like
Speaker 1: he always telled me, like when you get too close
Speaker 1: or get to love you, w I kind pull away
Speaker 1: And like why you just won't let me love you
Speaker 1: like you can't love me, weird like kind of like.
Speaker 1: And I've been with him for years, I lived together.
Speaker 1: It's like, but when it's too like, it's just I
Speaker 1: don't know inside, I just get real uncomfortable and I'll
Speaker 1: go to the I gotta go do this. You know
Speaker 1: what's funny is that's crazy. Van. He's dealt with it.
Speaker 1: Van and Charlotte Maagne you like Dave and I'll be
Speaker 1: on it. But you need a therapist. I've had plenty.
Speaker 1: You need more because it's not a bad thing because
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a but it's not a bad
Speaker 1: it's not it's not what it means because there's unresolved
Speaker 1: things up. There's unresolved things. I'm telling you you you
Speaker 1: really I've had you know what it is. And maybe
Speaker 1: if I had a therapist that was black and no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to be a real thing. Of them has
Speaker 1: been like white. So I'm like, you can't possibly understand.
Speaker 1: You don't even let the therapist. Do you think you shouldn't?
Speaker 1: You're trying to fix my problems, not like that. But
Speaker 1: if you're if you're racist, you just assume I talked
Speaker 1: to older men because I was younger. There's nowhere a
Speaker 1: white person can teach me or tell me anything because
Speaker 1: you're not coming from how you're thinking. You're just going
Speaker 1: by the book, so you don't understand my life. So
Speaker 1: you can't tell that's a black person. I could take
Speaker 1: it from someone who it's like, ah, I feel like
Speaker 1: they can talk to another addict because they've been there
Speaker 1: and they sure you know what I mean. But someone
Speaker 1: who's never you don't you never even experienced. No, I
Speaker 1: respect if you if you respect experience, I get it,
Speaker 1: and that's important. So no, so so you do you
Speaker 1: might need that because like, yeah, you yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1: That's tough. I never that's funny. That sucked me up.
Speaker 1: That literally sucked me up because I never realized that
Speaker 1: if it harms you, it's different because I don't think
Speaker 1: the girls I knew maybe they are harmed, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know they was harmed because they just keep going
Speaker 1: on with life. And I'm like, because you gotta remember,
Speaker 1: like we're in high school. This girl's fift c t R.
Speaker 1: Agent that ain't giving us no play. That's talking to
Speaker 1: the dudes with the carrs, that McDonald's value the car
Speaker 1: they valued the card to do with the money, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I always thought it was weird because I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I was twenty four, I had a low rider
Speaker 1: and some money. The last place I was looking for
Speaker 1: broads is at high school. And I don't think we
Speaker 1: value the car. I think it's the maturity level of
Speaker 1: the older guy and like him taking care of you.
Speaker 1: That's what I though he's using because but it's not
Speaker 1: even just the static. It represents what he's doing. What
Speaker 1: would she see? I understand, no, but but it's literally
Speaker 1: you also get somewhere with less sweat and work, so's
Speaker 1: there's a reality to it, and that's what I guess
Speaker 1: I was talking. I don't even think it's necessarily about
Speaker 1: the work. It's just you're already in a position to
Speaker 1: where you don't have much, you know, Like well, for me,
Speaker 1: let me speak for me. Let's being in a group
Speaker 1: home and going from foster care to foster care. I
Speaker 1: don't have my mom and have my dad, and I
Speaker 1: don't have nothing, you know, And then you see all
Speaker 1: these other people, you know, they got to their parents
Speaker 1: to take care of them, and you you're without, So
Speaker 1: then you start looking okay, well I need to get
Speaker 1: older man like that hasn't because I want to be
Speaker 1: you know, comfortable in my life too, because right now
Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable. So you start looking for stuff like
Speaker 1: outside of like at school, like I don't want these
Speaker 1: guys who don't have anything you can't take. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: can't take me nowhere, they can't buy me something, and
Speaker 1: I'm over, I'm walking around with holes in my shoes
Speaker 1: or look at dragon. Did you notice that it was
Speaker 1: older man attracted to you? Just that one like it
Speaker 1: was like, oh it was many. So you saying that
Speaker 1: I dated. I'm just saying even when I would tell
Speaker 1: guys like older guys that I was fourteen fifteen? Did
Speaker 1: you have a lie about your age? I didn't have to.
Speaker 1: Did you ever I had a man tell me to
Speaker 1: lie and say I was eighteen around his friends and stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, did you ever lie to a man? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I have. I did about I would say about like
Speaker 1: a guy that I knew that he wouldn't have messed
Speaker 1: with me because he knew I was younger. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you a quite like y'all all pretty much?
Speaker 1: I would have think all of y'all for the most part,
Speaker 1: sept maybe sign you probably have to, But y'are all
Speaker 1: pretty much dated older men in high school because y'all
Speaker 1: probably were all I could imagine. You know, y'all are
Speaker 1: you know, nice little older older women. Now you're not
Speaker 1: the old, but I'm saying you're not a teenager. I
Speaker 1: imagine I was all decent looking, good looking teenagers. So
Speaker 1: you were fine. You know, a guy that had a
Speaker 1: little bit more than just us broke high school niggers. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: So what do you feel like when you was in
Speaker 1: high school? Like what made you look at the older
Speaker 1: guy that was breaking the law when you first met him?
Speaker 1: Like what what? What was it? For me? It was
Speaker 1: just staved was funny. Well, I mean, my son's father
Speaker 1: is four years older than me, so um, he had
Speaker 1: a car, and you know, I was going to dinner.
Speaker 1: We were going to I was going to dinner at
Speaker 1: like fifteen. You know, we can leave outside of Palm
Speaker 1: deal and I can go to the beach and I
Speaker 1: can go you know, do x y Z. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, he was more approachable, like he talked
Speaker 1: to me, like I was learning things, like you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't just like it wasn't you know, I was
Speaker 1: just really intrigued by everything he had going on. Plus
Speaker 1: he was just very um I'm always intrigued by someone
Speaker 1: that has a mind where I can learn and I
Speaker 1: can you know. And that's what it was. He was
Speaker 1: just really like putting into me. It wasn't necessarily like,
Speaker 1: oh I'm depending on him because I didn't obvious, but
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying I was putting into me
Speaker 1: wasn't for me. It was honestly, I'm keeping one hundred.
Speaker 1: When I was high school ship it was swag like
Speaker 1: I was like ship my nigging, Like you could pick
Speaker 1: me up in his wip and we're about to go
Speaker 1: have some fun. You know. It was just pretty much
Speaker 1: like y'all, but just gotta take the bus, my nigga.
Speaker 1: And that's just what it was. Like, Oh he ha,
Speaker 1: cute girl, thank you my blue. That that that that
Speaker 1: was what it was for that, you know. But you
Speaker 1: know it's funny. I could relate to that. When I
Speaker 1: started selling crack in high school. It was like you
Speaker 1: could buy the whole the whole pizza line pizza, old pizza,
Speaker 1: like cars at school, come pick me up at school,
Speaker 1: Like okay, I'm riding with him, like he's coming. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you met you met your all the dude you
Speaker 1: was in with Grad tenth that he was about okay,
Speaker 1: so you probably didn't my first rest in peace. He
Speaker 1: was heed to me though he told me he was
Speaker 1: like nineteen. I think I was seventeen years old, and
Speaker 1: he come saying, we're gonna wait. I was eighteen to
Speaker 1: have six. Then he went to jail. But before that
Speaker 1: he told me he was really twenty four. And I
Speaker 1: was at school in the bathroom, and I was crying
Speaker 1: because I was like, you're old. Why would you lie
Speaker 1: to me? Like you took my choice away? Oh so
Speaker 1: you gave some busy too. I was in love already
Speaker 1: by the time the truth was coming out. But you
Speaker 1: thought you wouldn't give no play at seventeen, and I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about it. My mom was very sheltering.
Speaker 1: So so you was rebelling, you had you? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was he could only come see me at school while
Speaker 1: I was that track practice and stuff, and then I
Speaker 1: was there how to go home? That makes sense? And
Speaker 1: yours is fourteen and thirty five. That nigga is crazy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think Nick crazy, but that nature he
Speaker 1: had a low rider. He was in a low rider.
Speaker 1: She got an a minute so he would take you places,
Speaker 1: the one that made you lie about your eighteen saying
Speaker 1: I was eighteen around his friends. He was a crip.
Speaker 1: I was when I was tell me no more. I
Speaker 1: ran away from the group home and I stayed with
Speaker 1: him for a year and after that, I just felt
Speaker 1: like I told him. I was like, I'm just tired,
Speaker 1: like I want to go to school, like I missed
Speaker 1: that being a kid, because I was like doing a yeah,
Speaker 1: I started coming out and I was just doing a
Speaker 1: no ship and I was like, um, I just a kid,
Speaker 1: and your baby is young. That's why I'm saying I
Speaker 1: don't know how somebody could talk to her. And then
Speaker 1: and to keep him, to keep me close to him.
Speaker 1: He didn't want me to go anywhere else. He was like, well,
Speaker 1: my ex wife, she has a foster home. I could
Speaker 1: set it up to where you can go there. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear. You wouldn't did it? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't did it? And she wut dial me and everything,
Speaker 1: And at some point she end up finding out that
Speaker 1: we did. Because she didn't know that. She thought that
Speaker 1: he just made me through another friend, and it was
Speaker 1: he wanted to help me out and when she found out,
Speaker 1: I cried, She cried. She she helped me and we
Speaker 1: just cried together. She was like, I'm not mad at
Speaker 1: you like she was, like she said she were taking
Speaker 1: it with like she said, you're a child. She said,
Speaker 1: he's in the wrong. And she loved me so much
Speaker 1: after that and she's still to this day, like you know,
Speaker 1: she's just and then her you know, she had kids
Speaker 1: and stuff and they let it go and they all
Speaker 1: told me, like I love you, and it was just
Speaker 1: so it was, oh he had kids with her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all stayed together. So I was, yeah, his ex wife,
Speaker 1: I went. It was a lot. It's a lot. But
Speaker 1: the dope thing is though, is that like you're not
Speaker 1: like fuck up, like you didn't go you know, be back.
Speaker 1: But that a lot of girls they go into prostitution,
Speaker 1: like they do certain things because they've already been mentally.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't want to become a statistic I was
Speaker 1: always like in my mind, like even though I was
Speaker 1: doing like little things here and there, in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not what I want to be. Like,
Speaker 1: I always wanted to find a way out of that.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to just because I look back now
Speaker 1: and all the girls I was around, I'm like they
Speaker 1: sucked up, know I got a gang of kids or
Speaker 1: just just going through it and looked rough and I
Speaker 1: was just like something to me was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to I gotta figure this out. It's something always
Speaker 1: I want more. Let me ask your honest, honest question.
Speaker 1: And this might be a weird question, but it's I
Speaker 1: just because I don't want to notice nigga. And I
Speaker 1: probably noticed nigga that's the word. But yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: the true. Do you think he loved you? Was he
Speaker 1: in love with you? We talked? I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like it at all. I think it was it was
Speaker 1: the benefit of for sexual reasons. I think it was.
Speaker 1: I don't get why wouldn't see a forty as a
Speaker 1: sexual purpose at that At that age, you're not really
Speaker 1: being combative. You're just kind of just going with the
Speaker 1: flow and you're kind of listening. You're doing whatever they're
Speaker 1: saying because you want something from him like that and this,
Speaker 1: And this is why I think it's it's something he
Speaker 1: didn't do me, Like, sure, he didn't mean get on you.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm saying, it's just now that
Speaker 1: I'm growing, I look back on it. I was like,
Speaker 1: you were in a relate, Yeah, and it was for
Speaker 1: sexual purposes only. But it's weird to me, is why
Speaker 1: the funk would he be fucking a fourteen right? What
Speaker 1: the fund do you know about sucking? And I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: you know, a teenager couldn't be good at sex, but
Speaker 1: god damn man, like if you slept with grown women,
Speaker 1: it is amazing. No, there's he's sick, That's what I'm thinking. Like,
Speaker 1: but it has to be a rapist. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why it's a rapist. He's a predator. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's why I look back at it now. I thought
Speaker 1: it was cool he was waiting for But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you what make it crazy. It has to be
Speaker 1: a turn on because of how old you are. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. And see, I don't think it's one thing
Speaker 1: because I've seen me and date younger women. Rights, I
Speaker 1: got a little young hottie, you know, I get that,
Speaker 1: But someplace it has to be like this is part
Speaker 1: of like a rapist who somebody that like my homies,
Speaker 1: you're doing a different one HOMEI got the death penalty
Speaker 1: right now, right, Um, Big two big tool was a
Speaker 1: is a handsome, big motherfucker like he not, no, he
Speaker 1: got it's just something else that something else is turning
Speaker 1: him on, you know what I'm saying. So I think
Speaker 1: at some place it is. But I do think something's
Speaker 1: wrong with me and that I prefer younger women. But
Speaker 1: I do think I really genuinely think they try to
Speaker 1: live vicariously. On one, they try to think that that
Speaker 1: keeps them young. One. I guess you get and but
Speaker 1: that's my point to it, Like, who the funk cares
Speaker 1: if it's fresh? But they do. That's to me, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying. I think it's the point that she made
Speaker 1: before that I think it's no conflict. And you you
Speaker 1: want to just train someone and do what you do
Speaker 1: and live like an outlaw. Then you have people they're
Speaker 1: gonna molest their niece, their nephew, they're gonna lest everybody.
Speaker 1: They have people who are into young people, but they're
Speaker 1: not gonna to touch their own kids. Like it's just
Speaker 1: it's awful. What about self telling me? So the guy
Speaker 1: when he was in high school, the older guy, So,
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, I diated a guy.
Speaker 1: It was almost similar to my sister's situation. I actually
Speaker 1: got kicked out of my foster home because the wife
Speaker 1: called my foster parents. Um, I loved him, like, you know,
Speaker 1: he had a cutlast and he was actually a drug dealer,
Speaker 1: and I sip my yeah, I put a nurse in
Speaker 1: my and I actually used to like sit in the
Speaker 1: car while he was doing his job selling. I had
Speaker 1: no idea. I was so naive, but I did lie
Speaker 1: about my age. I was sixteen and I said I
Speaker 1: was eighteen, but like three months later I told the truth.
Speaker 1: He didn't care. It was we were already you know,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But yeah, I got kicked out because
Speaker 1: of him. I never even knew he was married. Like
Speaker 1: she called my foster parents. Why did she find your
Speaker 1: foster parents? I guess because I called him. I was
Speaker 1: calling his phone. He wasn't answering, and then I got
Speaker 1: kicked out. So how old was he? He was like yeah,
Speaker 1: but he had a cool little color. Yeah, I just remember, yeah, actually,
Speaker 1: and he provided Like my mom always said, you got wooed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got. And that's why I guess. That was my
Speaker 1: initial point before Sylvia pretty much broke my whole ship down.
Speaker 1: I realized she's a victim, ruined us. You can't hold
Speaker 1: you now, you funked it up. Let this nigga, love you.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for you and n trying to love her.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to shake his hand, like, man, keep
Speaker 1: on trying you get I don't even know you. I
Speaker 1: thought you were just as they got to climb that
Speaker 1: motherfucker for a year. I'm getting softer though over there,
Speaker 1: like a little older. I was like, yes, it's softening
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Yeah, that's tough. That's uncomfortable. Um
Speaker 1: like from not trusting to trying to you know, my dude.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, dude, you hey, I'll be like, okay, baby,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So I'm trying to be more like because
Speaker 1: I'm usually like what what do you mean? Like, like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? What do you mean anything? I'm
Speaker 1: just being combative. Yeah, but that's just your birth ride
Speaker 1: as one. Like Red. We just talking about that the
Speaker 1: other podcast where she just decided she wouldn't make place
Speaker 1: to place tomorrow. Don't y'all don't know how to exist
Speaker 1: without conflict and not in a bad conflict, Like I
Speaker 1: know it sounds like such a horrible term, but simple
Speaker 1: things right that you just you just have to you
Speaker 1: have to make everything like exactly. A great relationship is
Speaker 1: like a fairs wheel that women try to turn into
Speaker 1: a roller. We need to do something that happen. What
Speaker 1: you're talking about, it's the it's the tone, is the
Speaker 1: body language is everything, because that's what showed me. So
Speaker 1: it's the tone. It's how you it's not what you're saying,
Speaker 1: it's how you're saying. And I used to be like,
Speaker 1: but I think genuinely none of that matters. It all matters,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. Women's just birth, fright, They just
Speaker 1: and I know it sounds like i'll be talking ship,
Speaker 1: but I'm seriously, I've study women like I pay attention
Speaker 1: to them. They literally have to have a sense of
Speaker 1: conflict right where it's like I don't like my hair,
Speaker 1: I don't like my nails, but I don't like my skin.
Speaker 1: I don't like this, I don't like That's just what
Speaker 1: women do. Well, that's not our fault. Then, no, I agree,
Speaker 1: it's not your funk. It's you're born into this ship
Speaker 1: and then you listen. Then you come into this world
Speaker 1: and they make it worse because they got all kind
Speaker 1: of silly. What's funny is I think your worst mistake
Speaker 1: is listening to each other. Y'all give each other the
Speaker 1: worst advice ever where you know what that's true. Un
Speaker 1: y'all give each other horrible advice. Something don't telling a
Speaker 1: little true? Like yeah, you naturally on the woman's side,
Speaker 1: like you become not everybody I know it ain't all
Speaker 1: y'all we want to do it in front of everybody else,
Speaker 1: but like you're you're wrong for that because we see
Speaker 1: it on the internet or day sha right now, bad
Speaker 1: women advice. I'm not gonna do it in front of
Speaker 1: everybody else but her. I'm gonna tell you. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: not like everybody else, Like, no, I'm not. I'm not obviously,
Speaker 1: that's that's the cript code of conduct. You stand up
Speaker 1: for your partner, whether you wrong. Right that other ship
Speaker 1: you're talk about notta corda. I don't know what's wrong something,
Speaker 1: you know what conduct? I'm not. First off, when I
Speaker 1: turned to thirty five, that was firing. Yeah, that's crazy
Speaker 1: to somebody at thirty. I'm thirty five years on talking
Speaker 1: to somebody. Remember God, I would die orrow Bridge at me.
Speaker 1: I know if I had to take care of forteo
Speaker 1: year old kid, I would jump off a bridge. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna data? But I'm not going to do that
Speaker 1: because you know what that's did everybody dope. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm gonna breathe. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that's sick as much as what
Speaker 1: is wrong. I don't know why what you want with
Speaker 1: somebody's but that's what You're right. It is sick because
Speaker 1: I can't you know what makes it sick. I can't
Speaker 1: rationalize it, and I'm good at rationalize to the point
Speaker 1: where you really think it's a problem, has a problem.
Speaker 1: I feel like that is illegal to have you go
Speaker 1: to jail is a motherfucker and you never and you
Speaker 1: never told on them though, but imagine how many family
Speaker 1: members that people have to know that they're messing with
Speaker 1: these young kids and they don't know they're not telling anybody.
Speaker 1: They can't look like if they come ask me, now,
Speaker 1: like you ever think like you think that make is
Speaker 1: still on that same ship? Now? Yes, yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he is. Yes, until something how you feel about people?
Speaker 1: Feel like y'all wrong for not telling on these niggas.
Speaker 1: Well in that time, like even today though, because they
Speaker 1: didn't say, y'all the problem not telling you know, it
Speaker 1: did not matter if he might still he's still going
Speaker 1: it already. Think I'm a gangstaff this age, like snitching,
Speaker 1: Like that's not even in my mind whether he's wrong
Speaker 1: or right, Like I'm not even thinking of that wouldn't
Speaker 1: be snitching. But she was just ending the relationship at
Speaker 1: that time, Like you still you didn't see anything wrong
Speaker 1: with dating him at that time. You just ended the relationship.
Speaker 1: I think I am grown in my mind, like I'm grown.
Speaker 1: It's yourself. Hi, I'm the only one I go to school.
Speaker 1: Everyone like, oh, you're the little t a. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to school here. I'm wearing hills. You know.
Speaker 1: It was always like one or two girls like that.
Speaker 1: It was actually Dad, I actually David the girl I
Speaker 1: actually dated. I actually dated that girl in high school.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, but she's trying to give me some puss.
Speaker 1: And it was the scares day of my life because
Speaker 1: she was like so far ahead of me. She end
Speaker 1: up going to jail for like a murder years Like
Speaker 1: she was dating some other nigga that murdered something. And
Speaker 1: he didn't get away with it. They was crazy. It
Speaker 1: was a big story. It was at the Sign of
Speaker 1: Monica Pier. It was a German tourist. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember, because y'all kind of close enough, but
Speaker 1: it was on the news and he had this camera
Speaker 1: and they always showed him the slow motion. They were
Speaker 1: trying to rob this man with a camera, like he
Speaker 1: was a tourist and they was trying to rob him,
Speaker 1: and I guess he didn't speak English, and the nigger
Speaker 1: tripped out, gunning down and she was a driver. So
Speaker 1: she goes to jail for fifteen years for this ship.
Speaker 1: She stopped talking to me and was talking to this
Speaker 1: nigger like, and it's funny because we always come in
Speaker 1: and crying, but like, who's trying to robber tourists? I'm
Speaker 1: selling water over here, real gallons. But yeah, I was
Speaker 1: dating that girl in high school and she was way
Speaker 1: ahead of me. She was like, I was already selling drugs.
Speaker 1: I was already getting shot at, carrying guns, driving. But
Speaker 1: I wasn't like sexually there. I wouldn't even have a sex.
Speaker 1: So she was super duper. What's funny is I didn't
Speaker 1: talk nowhere as much as I talked today, and I
Speaker 1: don't like talking now, so you know what, but I've
Speaker 1: noticed that that's a that's a thing consensus. I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: I just once you start talking, yeah I can't. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you everything. I gotta know enjoy talking until
Speaker 1: I enjoy talking. I know because people tell me that
Speaker 1: people really think I enjoyed talking. I actually that's my
Speaker 1: problem as a productive sale. I feel irresponsible by not
Speaker 1: telling you something you're asking me, or what I think, like,
Speaker 1: I feel irresponsible, and then everything that I've read about
Speaker 1: it or went or experience or thought about it starts
Speaker 1: to come out like I feel like it has to.
Speaker 1: I hate doing podcasts. I did this podcast because Charlotte
Speaker 1: magn was on me, like, yo, you should do a podcast. No,
Speaker 1: I hate it. I mean, I'm grateful now, but I
Speaker 1: still don't like it's not my thing. I like it
Speaker 1: becomes a job because you have to really enjoy talking,
Speaker 1: like I hate to enjoy talking till there. It feels
Speaker 1: like man, because you'll start having conversations like we're having
Speaker 1: this conversation right, nobody's providing insight, Nobody like how you
Speaker 1: just explained to me? Like yeah, gee, while I went
Speaker 1: through this, and this is how it makes me feel. Now,
Speaker 1: It's like, oh that makes sense. Most people are not
Speaker 1: trying to make sense. They're just talking more just talking.
Speaker 1: Let me just say something crazy that's stupid as fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like if I said, it's a lot of like Kevin
Speaker 1: Samuels out here reaching because it's no real like Kevin
Speaker 1: Samuels take takes a bad rap. Because Kevin Samuels became
Speaker 1: he was really protecting the average black man in America.
Speaker 1: Like it sounds like he was an anti woman, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He was saying. His whole thesis was like,
Speaker 1: how is this guy who makes thirty tho dollars a
Speaker 1: year good enough? That's a fairy. Somebody should be standing
Speaker 1: up for that person. This is fucking American niggas with
Speaker 1: slaves two hundred years ago, slaves. Then they've been hanging.
Speaker 1: They've been hanging nig and so off. Nigga didn't figured
Speaker 1: out his life and got him a joy to pay.
Speaker 1: How were you saying that's undesigned? Most people don't have
Speaker 1: most people are without. It's only a small percentage that
Speaker 1: didn't have it. Again, so again, so again, Kevin Sammy,
Speaker 1: that's really what he was. So he would just tell people.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, why, I think I deserved a lot
Speaker 1: of truth and what he was saying and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying the way. You know, we can all argue his methods.
Speaker 1: He was going too hard on women. He was doing this,
Speaker 1: but I think but it became a business at this
Speaker 1: point too, so he knew that. So he capitalized off
Speaker 1: of it when once he went viold at one time,
Speaker 1: you know, it turned into a business to where it
Speaker 1: was entertainment and he was you know, he started being
Speaker 1: real like funny and you know, crack jokes, even having
Speaker 1: bagging sessions. His character starts to come up, yeah, and
Speaker 1: some women has some cold jokes for him. He told
Speaker 1: that lay every say, she looked like DJ quick, Yes,
Speaker 1: and she hit him And then you tell me that,
Speaker 1: So let me ask yourself. So we needed that, like
Speaker 1: this is what it is. I'm stopped being behind a bush.
Speaker 1: This is so should it be against the law? Read
Speaker 1: for somebody four years old to talk to somebody like
Speaker 1: so should it be against the law for somebody forty
Speaker 1: years old to talk to somebody eighteen years old? Yeah?
Speaker 1: If you're eighteen and the man is let's say, fifty,
Speaker 1: should it be against the law, Like when does it?
Speaker 1: I don't think eighteen is capable like those the right
Speaker 1: those are just you know what I'm saying, like numbers
Speaker 1: that was putty here, But men, silly. I don't think
Speaker 1: that an eighteen year old is ready to talk to
Speaker 1: a forty year old. So I did. I talked to
Speaker 1: a crip and the cutlass. I was nine. I was nineteen,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't my boyfriend. He was popping blood. He
Speaker 1: was man. He was like the o G. He came through.
Speaker 1: I went, I was visiting my cousin, and um, he
Speaker 1: was like the hottest thing. But he kind of just
Speaker 1: swooped me up. It was just kind of like okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I would be with him in his car,
Speaker 1: was all swooped up and everything. But I knew, like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is not my man. You know. He kept on
Speaker 1: saying that you're gonna be my girl. No I'm not,
Speaker 1: but we're having fun. I knew enough to know, like, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but he was in his light though it's
Speaker 1: cool to shine in his life. Actually I didn't even
Speaker 1: have sex with him, but I still let him do
Speaker 1: things to me. So because I I just didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't have sex with him, but I did have a
Speaker 1: boyfriend someone I was dealing with that was thirty and
Speaker 1: I was nineteen. So yeah, I like older. I do
Speaker 1: like older. Man. I was shoving it up with it
Speaker 1: and I was like, as soon as you start talking
Speaker 1: to my swater, god, I'll be Okay. I was nineteen.
Speaker 1: But so should it be against the law for man, like,
Speaker 1: is the statutory law? Is the statutory law read like outdated?
Speaker 1: Should it be changed more and start being more of
Speaker 1: I think it should be more, um fuck like, because
Speaker 1: some girls are just more matured than others. Like, It's
Speaker 1: just I think it just really just depends on the situation.
Speaker 1: Like I was grown. I was grown at eighteen, but
Speaker 1: I looked back and I'm like, damn I was. I
Speaker 1: wasn't really yeah, like I wasn't ready for all that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So some women, some girls,
Speaker 1: they are I'm like eighteen. To properate, I think it
Speaker 1: should be um twenty four the legal age four because
Speaker 1: you out on this podcast. Okay, so for a forty
Speaker 1: year old you're saying for a four, I'm saying to
Speaker 1: make the decision, period, to make the decision period have sex.
Speaker 1: So that means you could choose whoever you want. What
Speaker 1: age should that be? Ye, So Y're okay with a
Speaker 1: forty year old sleep when somebody you're to me? Depending
Speaker 1: on the eight that's my point. So the thing about
Speaker 1: like the guy of these and laws and right is
Speaker 1: you have to have a baseline. So eighteen is the
Speaker 1: you're with high school, you're in college, you're doing grown ship,
Speaker 1: you're an adult when you're still duing high high school. No,
Speaker 1: you should have eight You're you can be on your own.
Speaker 1: You're you know what I mean. You're out your parents house,
Speaker 1: you're at college, you're staying on the dorm. You're grown,
Speaker 1: You're you can do whatever you want to do. What
Speaker 1: about you, Britt? The legal age and sin is still cool?
Speaker 1: Here a team? Or shouldn't be a longer? Damn? I
Speaker 1: would say no, maybe twenty one because I just feel like, listen,
Speaker 1: the reason why, Okay, I had sex and I didn't
Speaker 1: even want to have really have sex. That's the co
Speaker 1: part about it. I had sex because my friends was
Speaker 1: having sex. I lost my virginity at seventeen, and that's
Speaker 1: crazy because in junior high I used to act like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't the virgin to look cool. It was like really,
Speaker 1: I was really I was six because I was heard
Speaker 1: again like yeah, I felt like I was like the
Speaker 1: last of the dying bree like everybody was sucking and
Speaker 1: I was just like damn, like wow, and I had
Speaker 1: put my hown for like what am I holding up
Speaker 1: for putting pressure? No, because he was sucking everybody else.
Speaker 1: That's why you get hold out. He was really like
Speaker 1: one ever like with me, like the girls came up
Speaker 1: to me or nothing. But I used to hear about
Speaker 1: like that they go to kickbacks of like that he
Speaker 1: was working on these girls, but he never sucked me.
Speaker 1: But he all everybody knew that was my boyfriend, so
Speaker 1: that was the cold part about it. But all these
Speaker 1: bitches would be sucking on him. So finally, it's crazy
Speaker 1: I end up having sex with him after we broke up.
Speaker 1: Dumb ship ever, That's why I see, because I shouldn't
Speaker 1: even be because I didn't even care for that ship
Speaker 1: I was have. I was cool with just kicking in,
Speaker 1: and then when I had I was like, this is
Speaker 1: what the funk this was? And I didn't have sex
Speaker 1: after that for until too, like to two years later
Speaker 1: like later sex you just like you still wasn't tripping.
Speaker 1: I just was. I just it wasn't. I wasn't wasn't
Speaker 1: like something. I was like, damn, I need to get
Speaker 1: that again. And like I said, we were broken up.
Speaker 1: It was us. I did it just to get out
Speaker 1: the way and I was comfortable with him. That's what
Speaker 1: the fun it was. Bottom line. You have to see
Speaker 1: what the rave, what it was about. And when I
Speaker 1: after I got it. Sorry you still my blue, I
Speaker 1: love you to death, but you know that just wasn't sure.
Speaker 1: The legal is in California, it's eighteen. Now are you
Speaker 1: still good with that legal age of consent? Or should
Speaker 1: it be older or younger? I just think it depends.
Speaker 1: Can't it can't. It can't depend. Like I'm asking you,
Speaker 1: you have to choose an age. No, No, what would
Speaker 1: be the age? Yeah, I would definitely say, um, mid twenties.
Speaker 1: That's not bad Sylvia legal age eighteen has been Just
Speaker 1: let you know how what you learn when you get older,
Speaker 1: like oh, Ship, we don't know Ship, why that's why
Speaker 1: you would think that you can remember when you was
Speaker 1: like I was still the idiot. I mean, no, you
Speaker 1: gotta put it just turn it up and turn it up.
Speaker 1: There you go there you alright, Si, Si? You tell
Speaker 1: me Joe you got a daughter, so alread you know,
Speaker 1: I can imagine that she chiefing to say. I mean,
Speaker 1: at this point, it's it's been it's been this this
Speaker 1: whole time, So I'm kind of just like accepted for
Speaker 1: what it is. So are y'all good? But but but
Speaker 1: but are you saying, like if my daughter eighteen and
Speaker 1: the nigga walk in and she would nigga like forty,
Speaker 1: that's different. You're not noting that. You're not You're not
Speaker 1: supposed to. But eighteen is cool because it's been like that.
Speaker 1: It ain't about to change. So are y'all okay with
Speaker 1: all legal ages? Because says per State overall, like Nevada's sixteen,
Speaker 1: they should base it on the man and is he stable? Um?
Speaker 1: Is he worked? You gotta do all this for you
Speaker 1: to get some pussy? Car? Are you gonna take care
Speaker 1: of her? That's hilarious? You know what I actually set
Speaker 1: Silk is like super get But I respect that because
Speaker 1: I genuinely feel the same way. If you fucking you
Speaker 1: must feet to marry you. Yeah, that's how I felt,
Speaker 1: Like how much do you really want They don't want
Speaker 1: to marry you, They just want you to and give
Speaker 1: not get off man's best friend. Yeah, but do. But
Speaker 1: let's say if Silkie was built right like I'm skins,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So let's say Sylvia was built like a
Speaker 1: grown lady at her age at fourteen, she has been
Speaker 1: like Titty's as you knoww these these hormone cow kids
Speaker 1: grow up right? See? So so is it so at
Speaker 1: that point, let me ask your question, that's your daughter
Speaker 1: dress like a baby? Still? Yeah? I try to Sylvia
Speaker 1: addresses like me. Sylvia dressed, she was probably dressed like
Speaker 1: more close to said like Sylvia, she shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: out there like that. Yeah, but her situation. But that's
Speaker 1: why she said. But that's why she makes a great
Speaker 1: point saying your parents would been whooping your ass, because
Speaker 1: there there are some girls that that's not most of
Speaker 1: the cases. Most of the cases are closer to somebody's
Speaker 1: not there right. Um, It's it's a tough thing, man.
Speaker 1: It's tough only because it's like my initial point when
Speaker 1: we first started talking about this was first off there
Speaker 1: there so statutory rape can't be victimless at this point,
Speaker 1: if you're a victim. You're hurt by it, I mean,
Speaker 1: and nothing bad happened to you. Just realized like damn,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made that decision. Yeah, and I made
Speaker 1: a lot of bad choices doing it too, because I
Speaker 1: was also selling drugs for him. So it was that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was right, it's a I can
Speaker 1: make her pretty much. No harm came, like, no, he
Speaker 1: didn't put his hands or have me in like those
Speaker 1: type the situations. Just it's bad. And he probably wasn't
Speaker 1: even giving you a lot. It was just your fourteen.
Speaker 1: So that little bit was like, yeah, this is it,
Speaker 1: this is it wasn't up to the points, so I
Speaker 1: stopped it around I'm guessing about seventeen because I got
Speaker 1: so close to his like his daughters my foster mom
Speaker 1: talk on her mom and then they just start feeling weird,
Speaker 1: like because I started getting so like they're calling me sister,
Speaker 1: I'm calling her mom. How would you guys see each
Speaker 1: other when you was living. I just go over to
Speaker 1: his house. And then one of my foster mom's cousins
Speaker 1: saw him me getting off the bus on eighty ninth
Speaker 1: and Western guy, I said, I said, I mean, it
Speaker 1: ain't about meal that I don't care if he go
Speaker 1: to jail. Fuck, not like I wouldn't tell him because
Speaker 1: I'm not even to y'all just saying. It's just damn,
Speaker 1: we just make the community just looking. I thought, I'm
Speaker 1: just telling me this dope. You just say nobody knows.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows. But it's just it's bothering me because it's
Speaker 1: like it's so close to home, because you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you know you you're not giving too
Speaker 1: much information, but it's it's bothering me. So no, Sylvie
Speaker 1: is bothering me because that's so close to home. And
Speaker 1: I hate to see people that I might have grew
Speaker 1: up looking up to seeing value in the fourteen year
Speaker 1: old girl at thirty something. I didn't see value in
Speaker 1: the fourteen year old girl when I was fourteen, When
Speaker 1: I was of age to think of four year old
Speaker 1: girl was cool, I didn't see it then. So but
Speaker 1: again that's why I really tried to always be open
Speaker 1: minded and thought like, people don't really understand that I'm
Speaker 1: really careful because I understand how different it could be.
Speaker 1: So but that's just crazy. I mean. And so the
Speaker 1: guy you met when you was young, silky he was
Speaker 1: you were six teams thirty two. But y'all was together
Speaker 1: as much as somebody cheating on the wife could be together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did heat so he never So what happened once he
Speaker 1: figured out? So you got so you got kicked out?
Speaker 1: But what happened when you figured out he had a wife?
Speaker 1: Did y'all talk after that? I was devastated. I know.
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to him until like a month later.
Speaker 1: I moved into another foster home, and then I was
Speaker 1: thinking about him, and I was like, fuck, I'm a
Speaker 1: call him, and his wife answered and I would just
Speaker 1: hang up on her, and I was just sick for
Speaker 1: like weeks. So you thought, then you thought, that's a
Speaker 1: good part about being six team. Just because you get
Speaker 1: grown twenty six, you'd be like you mother, thirty, you're
Speaker 1: about to kill yourself. You know, are thinking about time
Speaker 1: when you were you start thinking by time wasted. Gotta
Speaker 1: gave you Mike, I gave you my best teenage years
Speaker 1: about her pride, Well, y'all got Mike t women got
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson talking about now y'all like him in I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know where that comes from. I
Speaker 1: don't wipe them up. And I'm gonna tell you a
Speaker 1: real story for the part. When I was thirty two,
Speaker 1: I was messing with this girl I was twenty one
Speaker 1: and so sexually it was okay. So really her age
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with sex because it really wasn't
Speaker 1: about that. It was really some whole other if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it the being. She was kind of short
Speaker 1: and really petitza. It was like the things I could
Speaker 1: spin around. I know, I'm just gonna keep you the
Speaker 1: be since we're keeping it the being. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: keeping honest. You weren't too far from midgic. She looked
Speaker 1: like a midgic to me. She was weird right, And
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just being honest. Like I was really
Speaker 1: on some six ship sexual pleasures which I never thought
Speaker 1: could exist, you know what I mean, Like like that,
Speaker 1: This is why I always turned down three stings and fours,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't want to see how sick
Speaker 1: I don't want to see how sick of a person
Speaker 1: night because once you tried, and if you like it,
Speaker 1: and then I'm and I'm good at saying not even
Speaker 1: because I liked it. But it was like I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie, so having sense with it was not really
Speaker 1: driven by her age, but I remember how much I
Speaker 1: couldn't stand her as a human being, your nerves. I
Speaker 1: hated her. Damn you hear that bitch. I hated and
Speaker 1: I've never hated women have. I hated her like whenever
Speaker 1: she would talk, I hated her talking you just a
Speaker 1: little ship, a problem you had. I wasn't with her.
Speaker 1: We were just messing around for like ninety days. But
Speaker 1: I hated her. Why because she was twenty one and
Speaker 1: talked like she was one. I cannot stand ignorant people.
Speaker 1: I gonna say stupid because they're not a cable. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you the honest truth. She would just have the
Speaker 1: the most dumbest opinions about ship. And see, my problem
Speaker 1: is as an adult, right, I'm you gotta think, right.
Speaker 1: I read, I don't drink, I don't smoke, so I
Speaker 1: read so much. I'm always gathering information. So think about
Speaker 1: the gap at that point where she's talking at a
Speaker 1: real one year old levels. To tell her that and
Speaker 1: break her down, no, I used to just look at
Speaker 1: her like she was fucking stupid. Didn't care that much
Speaker 1: to tell her she's just black. Well, you know, because
Speaker 1: I have your baby and I'm looking at her like, baby,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to you tomorrow. And what's
Speaker 1: messed up is um, I was just being honest. I'm
Speaker 1: just be honest. I'm being so I'm a bear y'all
Speaker 1: my soul, right, So what I was talking to it
Speaker 1: right because her brother was cool with me, and her
Speaker 1: brother like the type of niggu I was. I mean,
Speaker 1: so he's like, man, talked to my sister. She really
Speaker 1: want to talk to you. So that's how I started
Speaker 1: talking to her. She he knew I was like a
Speaker 1: quality guy. But I'm like, you know, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really thinking like, oh, she's twenty one, but
Speaker 1: I forgot what twenty one was like because I forgot
Speaker 1: what one was like when I was twenty one. This
Speaker 1: motherfucker's not me at one. I was still reading bullecks
Speaker 1: of ship. This motherfucker is a regular twenty one year old,
Speaker 1: worst opinions in the world, And I'll just be sitting
Speaker 1: right here like why is this girl sucking? Like why
Speaker 1: would I even like touch me? I stopped because she
Speaker 1: was like, so we still just have sex. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: we can't like no, because I don't have any intentions
Speaker 1: to do anything good with your life. Well that's right,
Speaker 1: this crazy is so that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's not even spare him because
Speaker 1: I spared myself. I literally spared myself because I just
Speaker 1: did not like her. Let's not say she wasn't she
Speaker 1: was a pretty girl, beautiful shape, great and all lad
Speaker 1: and she wasn't crazy. She was regular twenty one. But
Speaker 1: that's when I realized it was so far from me.
Speaker 1: For your mind, every once your date for the mind,
Speaker 1: Well that's probably why you can't relate to other guys,
Speaker 1: because there's no question that it's an intellect. It's an
Speaker 1: intellectual and it's a it's a desire to learn. Right,
Speaker 1: So like R Kelly, if you so I knew are
Speaker 1: I met our kad, I don't know. Because I met
Speaker 1: him and I was gonna work. I went to the
Speaker 1: studio to work with him. He was texting me he
Speaker 1: can't read the rite, yeah right, So it was always
Speaker 1: weird interacting with him. So even when I found out,
Speaker 1: you know, because you were here to is about to leave,
Speaker 1: But you know that wasn't crazy. Back then he just
Speaker 1: marrying women. And I don't know why the fun want girl?
Speaker 1: I look at every fifteen right now. It was able
Speaker 1: to happen because it was so normal. But I still
Speaker 1: think he was busting older broads. But yeah, I don't,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I think it his situation. It was
Speaker 1: any broad. So you gotta think he didn't have to
Speaker 1: do nothing to get No, he had to. Manif it's
Speaker 1: r Kelly man, you came draws down for our key.
Speaker 1: And that's why I said allow that there's a sickness
Speaker 1: there because when people say, oh, this this this high
Speaker 1: celebrity raped this girl, like no, what why would he
Speaker 1: do that? He has money, because it's not about the money,
Speaker 1: it's about power up the I can take it because
Speaker 1: I get everything I want and this is no fun
Speaker 1: no more. So therefore that it's a sickness. Now it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Yeah I know I can get it and
Speaker 1: girls to drop their draws right here right now. It's
Speaker 1: the another something to stimulate me. But but I think,
Speaker 1: so it's a sickness. It become just like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not about but I think, but but so this I'm
Speaker 1: in this with this. It's like I would never know,
Speaker 1: I told the home. I said, I would never know
Speaker 1: what a pedophile goes I've never in my life seen
Speaker 1: a four year old that's attractive, That's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I would never know what r Kelly goes through because
Speaker 1: I've never seen a fourteen year old girl that's attractive.
Speaker 1: Have I seen a fourteen ye old girl with body? Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna take a little bit more because of
Speaker 1: what's up tough for me to be attraction. And I'll
Speaker 1: see a two year but I'm like, I want to fun,
Speaker 1: Like what That's not what I'm saying. So it becomes
Speaker 1: everything else, you know, I mean, it becomes how they
Speaker 1: do certain things. That's crazy though. I just was that
Speaker 1: I knew all the girls with dad and girls like that,
Speaker 1: and I just never quite got it, but that this
Speaker 1: was really informative because I sure didn't know. But it's
Speaker 1: pretty much what I thought except that part of And
Speaker 1: I think I think every human being on this earth,
Speaker 1: no matter what I think, we all have thoughts. The
Speaker 1: thoughts are just thoughts, so act and when you act
Speaker 1: on it, then that's would make it like people have
Speaker 1: that thought and then they'll go you full throttle with
Speaker 1: that thought. You know, sometimes I'm like, I haven't thought
Speaker 1: some weird ship, not like on that level, but it's
Speaker 1: just anything any level. It's like, oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I thought as group? Yeah, like it talking about
Speaker 1: I was like that thought that I piss on the
Speaker 1: group think. You know, sometimes you just she wanted me to.
Speaker 1: I would if anything. It's hard who No, I'm not
Speaker 1: pissing because I wouldn't leand the bed with piste. But
Speaker 1: like if I was in the shower and she wanted
Speaker 1: me to piss on her, piss on it and someone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that way. I don't know. Has a guy I
Speaker 1: asked you to piss on? Hold on, hold on, hold up?
Speaker 1: Has a guy ever asked a piss on you just
Speaker 1: squared on him? They ask that? Has a girl asked
Speaker 1: you to piss on her? They say, that's pet. Has
Speaker 1: a girl asked you to piss on him? Has a
Speaker 1: guy ever asked you to piss on him? Has a guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Has he ever asked you to piss on him? Have
Speaker 1: you ever got a goat shower? I asked for one?
Speaker 1: What made you ask for one? I want to see
Speaker 1: what the ray was about? When you're just being just
Speaker 1: disgusting and freak. I haven't no ship involved or throw up.
Speaker 1: That's cool. How did he piss on you? Um? That
Speaker 1: was in a shower? Yeah, he was like like hell
Speaker 1: she said, let it just like I just wanted him
Speaker 1: to where here? No? Hell no, like real warm. That's
Speaker 1: cool because I say, because she keeping it a like
Speaker 1: I fun with me? Is that you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: We relate till that sid keep me the being. Has
Speaker 1: a guy have you, as a guy, risk to piss
Speaker 1: on you know, on him? He wanted you to? Yes,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even do that. It took a lot. It's
Speaker 1: hard on put the trash back down, just doing just
Speaker 1: doing a shower and then just so he was readily
Speaker 1: getting pissed on time. But when I was I would
Speaker 1: have been pumped up about a girl to piss on her.
Speaker 1: I'll be drinking all the water. What's that small? He said?
Speaker 1: She got to the show. Yeah that Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. No, if a girl asked me to
Speaker 1: piss on her, I be honor. Well, but it's your woman,
Speaker 1: you know now my old lady look her crazy like
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm a laughing like okay, bad, bad, No, no, bad, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not pissing on you. You might want me to
Speaker 1: hug you after you sure, yes, I think so get
Speaker 1: water all day. I'll be ready for that. She was,
Speaker 1: like like a regular, like a regular, like a groupie girl,
Speaker 1: or like a girl that just like me. I want
Speaker 1: you to piss something. I'll be just drinking water all day.
Speaker 1: I'll be ready, rich big, just getting it all right.
Speaker 1: She said, she's gonna cry that. You guys, he's gonna
Speaker 1: look at you, crazy motherfucker. You're gonna ask him to Okay,
Speaker 1: I know I should try that soon. See yeah, please right,
Speaker 1: make sure you don't don't do it, but you can't
Speaker 1: be mad that you don't hold it me like mabe,
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this, something I thought about on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Would you piss on me? And then see
Speaker 1: if he said yeah, be like damn because I want
Speaker 1: to see anything. Don't say anything about the podcast. Just
Speaker 1: like you know, I've been thinking about this. It's like
Speaker 1: a fantasy of mine because that is kind of powerful
Speaker 1: to piss on somebody. Wow, and they want you to
Speaker 1: never thought about dobody something special to it. It's a beauty.
Speaker 1: I never heard of that. What you piss the way
Speaker 1: you might go to the hospital. It is really hot. Wait,
Speaker 1: what is it? I feel like I heard like it's
Speaker 1: like I know, it's like if you get it like
Speaker 1: a sting ray or something, you pee on it. Yeah. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: So shout out to force. So thank you all again
Speaker 1: for coming through. Up I talk back, Sire Sylvia Silkie
Speaker 1: in the house, my man Joey west Side from the
Speaker 1: l A. Jihants you already know. Thank you for coming through,
Speaker 1: and me for me bred Red. We have this mother
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