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Speaker 1: Please don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio living the

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Speaker 1: dream once again here on a fully loaded sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are here in

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios of VJ. It has been

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Speaker 2: a Fourth of July weekend. That's a great part about

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Speaker 2: having the Fourth of July on a Friday. So you've

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Speaker 2: been enjoying the entire weekend out there celebrating our great country.

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Speaker 2: How is your Fourth of July holiday?

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Speaker 3: My fourth of July holiday was outstanding. I took my

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So you know, my wife took pictures and videos that us.

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Speaker 3: He had a life vests on and we started off.

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Speaker 3: He walks down into the pool. He's good with that,

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Speaker 3: but once he can't fill his feet is when he

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Speaker 2: No, people don't know this. Your son is twenty three y.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let Steve play you like that, bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let him, do you like that?

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Speaker 2: So no, my son's five five years old. Oh but

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Speaker 2: and you met him a few weeks he came in here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you man.

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Speaker 3: At one point I got them on my back and

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Speaker 3: then we swim all the way out to the ten

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Speaker 3: he kind of forgot that he couldn't touch the body.

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Speaker 3: It was just it was just one of those damn moments.

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Speaker 3: It was fourth of July. I grilled a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: So it was it was a great holiday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's you know, it's my birthday and no

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Speaker 2: one knows this about the fourth of July. Being born

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Speaker 2: it's the only holiday. It's actually Independence Day, but no

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Speaker 2: I mean, outside of maybe Cinco Demayo that where you

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Speaker 2: July is one of those holidays where no one says

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Speaker 3: So how was that hat sharing having a birthday? Because

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Speaker 3: so yeah, so we tell him Mary Birthday because we

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Speaker 3: have to do both.

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Speaker 2: Yea, we have to celebrate. How was that having a

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Speaker 2: birthday was a big holiday hundred years ago? The great

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Speaker 2: thing was fireworks were more prevalent in those days. Now

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Speaker 2: of course when you're a little kid, you're like, wow,

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Speaker 2: I mean they're really celebrating my birthday. I mean, that

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Speaker 2: wasn't about you, Steve. But then as I grew older,

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Speaker 2: the thing about working in our industry is you find

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Speaker 2: every holiday. So you work Thanksgiving, your work Christmas. You

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Speaker 2: The Fourth of July is no exception. And I did

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Speaker 2: It was a wonderful day. So hope everybody out there

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Speaker 2: is enjoying their Fourth of July weekday and God bless

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Speaker 2: our country. All right, So we got a lot to

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Speaker 2: Morosi is going to join us a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: I was at the Dodgers game Wednesday. This was the

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Speaker 2: night that Kershaw got his three thousand career strikeout. Fortunately

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Speaker 2: So I didn't get that eyewitness. It turned out to

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Speaker 2: be a lot of drama out there. Where were you you?

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Speaker 2: Where were you? Where'd you go?

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Speaker 3: You to go get a Dodger dog or something and

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Speaker 2: Of fried here, where'd you go?

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Speaker 2: I was hoping that he would get it done early

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Speaker 3: Anytime you get a bibblehead, I just think, listen, you

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Speaker 2: What it is. So JP is going to be joining us.

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Speaker 2: And then we got a special guest, good friend of yours.

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Speaker 2: Three time NBA champion with three different franchises, Danny Green

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Speaker 2: is going to be joining us coming up in our

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Speaker 2: next hour.

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Speaker 3: Tar hill Man, my guy man. I always loved Daily

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Speaker 3: Green followed him in college and high school. When he

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Speaker 3: who played point guard at Carolina win the Bob Coozie

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Speaker 3: Award his sophomore year, which goes to the best point

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Speaker 3: guard in the nation.

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Speaker 2: Was All American.

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Speaker 3: He's on that team with Zeller, Harrison Barnes, Reggie Bullok,

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Speaker 3: They're up with three minutes to go eight, but they

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Speaker 3: comes back. That's the Mario Chalmers. That's the Super Mario

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Speaker 2: I was there in San Antonio because UCLA was there.

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Speaker 5: That year or so.

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Speaker 2: And then a quick story so the next year when

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Speaker 2: Danny won the national championship in nine with hands Bro

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Speaker 2: and that whole team. It's like Detroit. I was. It

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Speaker 2: was my first year doing the Monday through Friday national

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Speaker 2: show here in Fox Sports Radio with Chris Myers. This

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Speaker 2: is classic. It's one of those one of those stories.

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Speaker 2: So my boss Don Martin at the time, we had

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Speaker 2: reason me and I basically I've done so many final

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Speaker 2: I get a call from Don Martin. My man, we

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Speaker 2: Like it was not That team was loaded. But that

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Speaker 3: That's why they all came back because they were like okay,

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Speaker 3: Carolina teams. People don't talk about life, especially as far

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Speaker 3: I could think about UNLV or Duke in the early

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Speaker 2: Let's just well I just put them in a championship game.

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Speaker 2: Radio wise, my first Final four was the next year

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis when that came back with the undefeated record

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Speaker 2: and they it was stolen in that Duke game. But

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Speaker 2: called for two late fouls that found them out of

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Speaker 2: not want Tark to win back to back. Nch respectful

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Speaker 2: A lot a lot of people don't know how good

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Speaker 2: Greg Anthony was. Thank you, Damn Hunt Stacy. I mean

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Speaker 2: they were a loaded team. George Jachells had replaced David

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Speaker 2: Greg Anthony was love and especially you know with you know,

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Speaker 2: He was was no he thank you, he was. He

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Speaker 2: The Warriors were an older team, you know, I just

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Speaker 2: You know, you remember me, I was like, should I

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Speaker 2: look and I'm with you. I mean, if halla Burton

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Speaker 2: over that game. Took over that game, scotos, No, I'm not,

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Speaker 2: but we'll leave it. But where are the Pacers right now?

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Speaker 2: Obviously you lose your big man, as you know, Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: Are they still in the conversation?

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Speaker 3: I just want I didn't want to come on, Aaron,

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Speaker 2: The owner, from all.

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Speaker 3: luxury tax. The owner just does not want to pay,

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Speaker 3: The Warriors owners kept paying the luxury tax over and

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Speaker 3: over and over and over, and their deal was, if

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Speaker 3: hanging banners, we can give a darn about that luxury

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Speaker 3: the long term. This is not a sprint. This is

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Speaker 3: we don't have our guy next year, so we'll just

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Speaker 3: center that was very intrigral, was the longest tenured pacer

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Speaker 3: for ten years. The guy that broke down when they

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Speaker 3: He's been through ups and down. Stuff The city says,

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Speaker 2: For a decade.

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Speaker 3: I finally get to the Eastern Conference finals. I finally

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Speaker 3: Monsey's clippers.

433
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Speaker 2: You got a spot for me there to go along

434
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Speaker 2: side Gianna's. Yep, come on up. Here's the pen sign,

435
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 2: all right? The Janna situation, all right? So you know

436
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 2: the Lillard I mean, I feel good for Damian Lillard,

437
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 2: so do I You know he never wanted to be there.

438
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna be paid guaranteed the next five seasons twenty

439
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 2: two point five million dollars Bobby bud I mean it's exactly.

440
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean, they just they even it out. They were able,

441
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 2: you know, so it's it's it's a hit, but it's

442
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 2: not a critical hit. Twenty two point five million a

443
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 2: year for the next five years guarantee for Lillard as

444
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 2: he rehabs decides whether or not he wants to play again,

445
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 2: that's going to be up to him. But this whole

446
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 2: deal came down to the idea that we've got to

447
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 2: do something to impress upon Yannis after getting bounced three

448
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 2: straight years in the first round of the playoffs that

449
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 2: we're serious and wanted to keep him and try to

450
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 2: build the team around him. We'll get to the you know,

451
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 2: the Lucas situation the Lakers very similar later in the show.

452
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 2: But this is where they're at. I mean, we both

453
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Speaker 2: have assumed that Jannis is going to demandage Rake get

454
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Speaker 2: out of there. We speculated about Miami. There are a

455
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Speaker 2: lot of different places Jannis could end up. He's still

456
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Speaker 2: one of the absolute leap players in the country in

457
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Speaker 2: the NBA. He's on the books for fifty seven million,

458
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 2: sixty two million the following year, and then he gets

459
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: his player option. So you've got to get him signed.

460
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Speaker 2: This is the same thing with Luca with the Lakers.

461
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: You gotta get Yanni's signed long term. If you're the

462
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks, do you think they did enough getting a

463
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: quality guy a Miles Turner replacing a player they're doubtful

464
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 2: that he would ever play against, certainly at the level

465
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Speaker 2: we're used to in Damian Lillard. Is that enough to

466
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Speaker 2: impress upon Yannis to stay in Milwaukee.

467
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so at all, Because when you

468
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Speaker 3: make a trade because you lose a guy, when you

469
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Speaker 3: sign a guy because you lose a guy, the first

470
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: thing I want to look at is, Okay, did you

471
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Speaker 3: improve yourself or did you just kind of stay at

472
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 3: the water level or did you even kind of drop

473
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Speaker 3: your nose below the water level where now you got

474
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Speaker 3: to put a snorkel on.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

476
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Speaker 3: I don't think MOUs Turner is it's better for them

477
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Speaker 3: than brook Lopez. I thought Brook Lopez is. He's a

478
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 3: better defender. Brook Lopez has been an All NBA defensive guy.

479
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 3: He's made All defensive teams. He shoots the three just

480
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: like Mouse Turner does. It's almost the same guy, except

481
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Speaker 3: for Miles takes a lot of bad a little, a

482
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Speaker 3: little yeah, But y'ah, Yannis don't care about age. I

483
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 3: just need somebody that's gonna help me win. I don't

484
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: care if they're fifty five or fifteen. I just need

485
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Speaker 3: somebody that's gonna help me win. Both those guys got

486
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Speaker 3: enough experience. So dange thing is like, can you produce

487
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 3: on the court? I thought the Bucks, and I still

488
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Speaker 3: say this if like you're saying, okay, they gotta get

489
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Speaker 3: Yani sign If it's any question, I would have been

490
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: picked up the phone and called the MAVs, and I

491
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Speaker 3: said this when they found that the MAVs got the

492
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Speaker 3: first pick. If I'm the Bucks, I call the MAVs

493
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Speaker 3: and I say, can we have that number one pick?

494
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: Because if you lose Jannie, you gotta start over anyway.

495
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,959
Speaker 3: Why not start over with Cooper flagging a number one

496
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 3: overall pick? Trade Giannis get a bunch of ages because

497
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to reset anyway.

498
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Speaker 2: So think about this.

499
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Speaker 3: If Yannis asks for a trade next week, it doesn't

500
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Speaker 3: matter that you saw Miles Turner, it has no effect

501
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Speaker 3: at all. But if you have moved Jannis and he

502
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: got the number one pick from Dallas, you think Dallas

503
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Speaker 3: would have said, Oh, yeah, we don't want to add

504
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: Jannis to Kyrie. It's eight Come on, Like, I just

505
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Speaker 3: I just think this thing is far gone. That doesn't

506
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: mean he's not gonna play for him this year, Steve,

507
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: but I think if he does, it'll be more kind

508
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: of Okay, let me show face, Let me show up

509
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: and be and be a good guy, because I'm gonna

510
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: say it publicly in a month or so that I

511
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: want to be traded. But let me show up and

512
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: let me play. But I just think he might be

513
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 3: mentally checked out? Why would you stay? And Doc Rivers

514
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: is still the head coach?

515
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: That's all I need to know, all right, So Boston out, yes,

516
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: Indiana out, yes, Milwaukee up in the air with the

517
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: honest situation. So who should we be looking at to

518
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: win the Eastern Conference? One team that just hired a

519
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 2: new coach is in the conversation, or were until they

520
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: hired that coach. But first let's find out what is

521
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Speaker 2: trending right now. Monsei is here. So how is your

522
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: Fourth of July weekend going?

523
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Speaker 8: Uh?

524
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Speaker 7: It's boring. I mean I didn't hear anything.

525
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Speaker 8: I worked on fourth of July and then I played

526
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Speaker 8: resident Emil all night.

527
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Speaker 7: So I don't.

528
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Speaker 2: You didn't get no barbie, nobody gave you a play.

529
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Speaker 3: You ain't get no mac and cheese, no baked bees,

530
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Speaker 3: no potatoes, no barbecue.

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Speaker 8: Enough for half that I don't even want, right the

532
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 8: things you just said, No, I don't.

533
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Speaker 7: But I like potatoes out. What did you say?

534
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Speaker 2: Potato? Did you know? Guys? Did you know? Guys? In

535
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: this country, potato salad is the number one food eating

536
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Speaker 2: on the fourth of July.

537
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Speaker 8: So I never understood potato salad or anything like that.

538
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Speaker 2: It depends on what kind of potato.

539
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Speaker 8: You have that outside and it's cold, and it's hot,

540
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 8: and it's mayonnaise.

541
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Speaker 3: Oh you keep it cold now, Now hold up, wherever

542
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: leave a potato salad outside you need.

543
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Speaker 8: You're bringing it back and forth on the fridge, because

544
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 8: when you know, when you have your food all out.

545
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: You found out absolutely, you let everybody know. Hey, guys,

546
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: don't let it take in the sun.

547
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Speaker 3: If you want potato salad coast flaw, it's in the fridge.

548
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And it's different.

549
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: Times you got southern potatoes out, you got must of

550
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Speaker 3: potato salad.

551
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Speaker 2: Relative. So when you see that, when you see the

552
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Speaker 2: potato salad bowl, and it's bubbling from the heat outside.

553
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Speaker 8: I don't even need it to be I don't need

554
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Speaker 8: it to be warm. I just it looks not good.

555
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 8: I could have mac and cheese any day. It doesn't

556
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 8: have to be fourth of July.

557
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 7: Gab it any day, So you know what I mean.

558
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 8: I so it's been fine, but like I'm over fireworks

559
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Speaker 8: at four in the morning.

560
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Speaker 7: I see exit fireworks any day.

561
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Speaker 2: Guys, Guys, I don't know everybody listening out there for days.

562
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: I just see or do we have more fireworks going

563
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: off this weekend than I've ever heard? I mean, I

564
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: went out froight because I worked TV Friday, was walking

565
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: in the Hollywood area. I thought it was gunshot like

566
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: the rapid fire it was, and it was a constant.

567
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 7: Why why are we still doing this?

568
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I get why it bothers people, but it's just something

570
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Speaker 3: I just always bother the pets. You're gonna do It's true,

571
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 3: they're gonna, but they're gonna do it this one night.

572
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 2: Just try to try to get through. It's not one

573
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: night around here. Was I heard it last night?

574
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Speaker 7: That's for sure?

575
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: Zone out by so calling resident evil? Yeah, I said,

576
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: solid cola.

577
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 7: Oh you know I'm trying to get better. I'm not

578
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 7: very good. It's up setting, all right.

579
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Speaker 8: Let's check in on baseball here, guys. The Red Sox

580
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 8: are shutting out the Nationals for zero. Top of the

581
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Speaker 8: third inning, Trevor Story with a two run shot, extending

582
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 8: Boston's lead. Mike Trout with a home run puts the

583
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Speaker 8: Angels on the scoreboard first. They're edging the Blue Jays

584
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Speaker 8: one zero top of the fourth inning. The Marlins losing

585
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Speaker 8: at home to the Brewers to zero. Bottom of the

586
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Speaker 8: fourth Austin Wells with the home run has put the

587
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Speaker 8: Yankees on the scoreboard first. In the Subway series against

588
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Speaker 8: the Mets, one zero is the score after three innings.

589
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 8: Byron Buxton has hit a home run for the Twins.

590
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Speaker 8: They're up on the raise one zero bottom with the

591
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Speaker 8: second inning about to start in Minnesota, while the Orioles

592
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 8: completed a three game sweep of the Braves, winning today

593
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 8: two to one. Jackson Holiday Holiday with the two run shot.

594
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 8: At Wimbledon, Carlos Alcaaz in his fourth round match, he

595
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 8: lost his first set in a tiebreak, but one of

596
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 8: his second set six games to three. Taylor Fritz American

597
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 8: and five seed he's headed to the quarterfinals. In NFL News, Dallas,

598
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 8: Cowboys wide receiver Cavante Turpin was arrested this morning for

599
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 8: a weapon and marijuana charges. His bond was listed at

600
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Speaker 8: five hundred dollars. I'm gonna say he's gonna be fine.

601
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Speaker 8: Later today. That Goon Kakov Gold Cup final between US

602
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 8: and Mexico seven Eastern on Fox TV back and.

603
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that the rest of the show. Yes, nice,

604
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: let's go boys. You say, let's go go USA, I

605
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: mean only should win, right they own in Mexico. Recent

606
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: I know, Thank you, mon See. We'll check in with

607
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: you a little bit later on once again, Harbin and

608
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Husky here in the Fox Sports radio studios. So one

609
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: of our we have the perfect picks, which are coming

610
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Speaker 2: up in the next hour. And one of the ones

611
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: we had a few weeks ago was the over under

612
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: on how long it would take for the Knicks to

613
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: hire a coach. Last week we're still speculating. Yeah, I mean,

614
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: this thing went on and on predictably. I mean again,

615
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: knee jerk reaction to get rid of TIBs makes no

616
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: sense after getting him to the Eastern Conference finals for

617
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: the first time. In twenty five years. And so we're

618
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: going over the cannons. Remember I was talking about Van Gundy,

619
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: and you know, I knew he wasn't gonna hire, but

620
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: you know, I'm thinking, like, it's got to be someone

621
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Speaker 2: that understands New York. And then you hire Mike Brown.

622
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just like, come on again, Mike Brown

623
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Speaker 2: when he came to the Lakers, nice guy was not

624
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 2: cut out for the LA market. Cleveland. Fine, you know

625
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: that'll work for a Mike Brown. LA was too much

626
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: for him, and New York will be too much for him.

627
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 2: Because again, it's not like he's taken over some twenty

628
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: four and fifty eight team trying to find their way.

629
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Speaker 2: He's taking over a team that made it to the

630
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference finals. And with Boston down and Indiana down,

631
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of people that's saying, all right, now,

632
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: this is the time for the Knicks to get to

633
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals for the first time since nineteen ninety nine.

634
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: So if Mike Brown didn't know already, that's the mindset

635
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: of the Knicks fans. We felt like we's gone as

636
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: far as we go. With TIBs. Celtics are out of

637
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: the way Pacers are out of the way, so all

638
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: you just get us to the finals. Mike Brown is

639
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: not the right guy to deal with the pressures he's

640
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: gonna be under with high expectations for the New York Knicks.

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00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: And this what makes the TIBs firing even worse because

642
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: you had Jeff Van Gunny.

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Speaker 2: Alright, cool, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

645
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: I didn't like it, but all right, everybody got their

646
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: own guy. But I thought you got Boonholzer out there.

647
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: You have Mike Malone, and you have Vogel, and those

648
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Speaker 3: are the three guys I'm looking at. Said, Okay, these

649
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: guys have had to handle big markets. They've had to

650
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: handle big time superstars. Even though Joe Kitsch is a

651
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: quiet superstarits you still got to handle it. You don't

652
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: see the guy's got some type of an ego. You're wrong, Okay,

653
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: all these guys do. And you had an opportunity to

654
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: bring somebody and in Vogel. Vogo had to deal with

655
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: the bubble, Vogo had to deal with Lebron, Vogo had

656
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: to deal with La like Vogo and now and he

657
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: was coming from Indiana, right, He's coming.

658
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: From a very small, easy gold market.

659
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: That fits a guy like Rick Carlisle perfectly, and he

660
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: was able to get it done, to handle it. And

661
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: you go out and you hire a guy that now

662
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: makes the firing look even worse. It's the same analogy

663
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: I used as far as losing Lopez for the books

664
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: and then bringing in Miles Turner. Did you get better

665
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: if you took a pole? Who's the better coach? Mike

666
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: Brown or Thibodeau? I guarantee you it maybe fifty one

667
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: to forty nine, I don't care, but I guarantee you

668
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: Tim's is gonna win that pole. So, in my opinion,

669
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: you hired a guy who's not as good as the

670
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: coach you fired. That makes the firing' even worse. It

671
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: makes you look even worse. But what do we expect, Steve?

672
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: It's the Nickelboxers the whole point.

673
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: And also Mike Brown knows because they are very public

674
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: about reaching out the coaches that were employed by other

675
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: teams and got turned down by all of them to

676
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: do interviews. You know it's Mike Brown. What was I

677
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: the fifth choice? The sixth choice word? No down, He's

678
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: like the ninth or tenth because those are the names.

679
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: Just we know about exactly.

680
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure when they sit in an office and body

681
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: cell phones is out and there's no social media being

682
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: no live streams being done, there's a live about twenty guys.

683
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: His name wasn't on it. So again, when Mike Brown

684
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: walks into that Knicks locker room, they're looking at him

685
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: like he's not gonna inspire this, this, this, and again

686
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: you said, all right, this is the Knicks. This why

687
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: sororiganizations are perennially coming up short because of their overall management.

688
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: All right, so.

689
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: Quick, curveball though, you bring in Mike Brown, the big

690
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: swerve of all of this could possibly believe and you said,

691
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: we'll get to it later.

692
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: But who they might be trying to make.

693
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: A move for, well, who has a connection and it

694
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: would be so clutch to plant this, Hey hire him?

695
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you see where I'm going though, right, just

696
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: just curveball you conspiracy there, you know how you and

697
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: I do. Again, we'll get into the little Brown thing

698
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: in depth a little bit later, but let's stay this,

699
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: stay here for a second, yes, sir, okay, So let's

700
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: just say, because we know this, the Lakers right now

701
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: with Lebron and we'll get into more depth on this.

702
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: But they're not going to publicly say we're trying to

703
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: trade Lebron, but they're listening. People know. I think that's

704
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: because he has an expiring deal. Okay, it's a fifty

705
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: two point six million dollar expiring deal, so it's one

706
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: of those deals where Okay, So if you're the New

707
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: York Knicks, this is the problem obviously the Lakers have

708
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: in trying to trade Lebron is that he's under contract

709
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: for just one year. How much capital are you going

710
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: to give up to get a forty one year old

711
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Lebron James for one season? Unless you think like a

712
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: team like the Knicks won a championship since nineteen seventy three.

713
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 7: If you were to.

714
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 2: Ask Nick fans this question, you bring in Lebron, you

715
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: win a championship this year, and then you will suck

716
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: for the next ten to fifteen years like we've sucked

717
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: for fifty years. Ye yes, I will take it, take

718
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: it to win a championship. So if you do have

719
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: that mindset, especially in the East, when the only team

720
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: really left standing right now is Cleveland, and Cleveland did

721
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: not prove themselves in the postseason. So you look at

722
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: who else, Boston, no Pacers, know who else?

723
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a little better. Orland will be

724
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: a little better, but they're not a contenter. The Pistols

725
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: would be a little better, but they're not a contenter.

726
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: I'm just being real, they're not contenters. They'll be better.

727
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give you a little time to think

728
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: about this. I'm gonna think about this. What would the

729
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Knicks offer? Oh, to make a deal easy to get

730
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: Lebron And by the way, Lebron technically has a no trade.

731
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: He would welcome the Knicks in a heartbeat. He knows

732
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: going to the Eastern Conference. Look at the landscape as

733
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: we'd laid it out, it's like a sure ticket to

734
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. But what exactly do they have to

735
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: give up? And it would be enough to actually derail

736
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Speaker 2: the Knicks. I mean, if you give up two much?

737
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

738
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739
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,400
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740
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,640
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741
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,399
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742
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: Harvin Husky Fox Sports Sunday. Here in the Fox Sports

743
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Speaker 2: Radio studios. All right, it's good.

744
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: Right.

745
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: So VJ brought up the point about the Mike Brown,

746
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: and I was looking at a different angle because again

747
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: I got to know Brike Brown a little bit when

748
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: he coached the Lakers, and he was just overwhelmed. Remember

749
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: he was fired five games into his second ear five games.

750
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: I mean, who gets fired after five games of a season,

751
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: But he got fired five games into his second ear

752
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: as the coach of the Lakers because he wasn't up

753
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 2: for the job, just wasn't good. Yeah, period, all right,

754
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: So why would the Knicks and you all of a

755
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: sudden brought up his coach back in the day. Remember

756
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: the first one for Lebron to the finals and seven

757
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: as coach was Mike Brown. Mike Brown. Okay, So now

758
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: going into the break, we've talked about making a trade,

759
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the Knicks roster and I'm like, wow,

760
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: this is this is a laid out a lot to have.

761
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: So the way NBA trades work, it's got to be

762
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: sally for salary. And again they'll put a certain price

763
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: tag on draft picks. But if you're the Lakers right now,

764
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: you're trying to build some depth around Luca right right.

765
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: So if I were to say, all right, you get

766
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: Britta Lebron and I hand you Cal Bridges. Yep, Josh

767
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: hart he has to be in it. He's the first name.

768
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: And I'll throw in salary wise and again Bridges has

769
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 2: an expiring deal. Hearts under contract for a couple of years,

770
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: and then I'll throw in uh, Mitchell Robinson another expiring contract.

771
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 2: Those three contracts add up to about fifty six millions,

772
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: so they offset the salary of Lebron this year. You

773
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: don't even have to do draft picks. So you get

774
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: a couple of expiring contracts. If you're little Lakers and

775
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: you get a guy, you won. Anyway, we know they

776
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: wont Josh Hart. Everyone loves Josh Harten he was a Laker.

777
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: They could get Josh Hart back. So add those three

778
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: guys to what they already have on the Laker roster

779
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: right now. Now, all of a sudden, you start looking

780
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: at Wow, Okay, so they got a little more depth.

781
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: It's not a championship caliber team. Now for the next

782
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: you still have Karl Anthony Towns, I still have Jalen Brunson,

783
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: you have an Anobi, and you have Lebron. James is

784
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: that enough with a few other pieces, minor pieces to

785
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: get the Knicks over the hump and come out of

786
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference to get to the NBA Finals.

787
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because of the way that the Eastern Conference is

788
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: constructed right now. And that's why I'm taking the conspiracy

789
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: theory road on this because it just makes sense. And

790
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: even though I'm not a Lebron James guy at all,

791
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: the one thing I've always said since I've been in

792
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: this business, he is one of the most calculated, smartest

793
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: pro athletes we've ever seen. Whether you like it or not,

794
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 3: that's just the fact this thing just feels so orchestrated

795
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 3: from behind the curtain weeks ago. Because number one, again,

796
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: why would you hire Mike Brown? It makes no sense

797
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: unless Lebron will now come out. Once he founds out

798
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: the Lakers do want to move him and say, well, yeah,

799
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: I want to trade anyway.

800
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: So it doesn't make it look like he's being traded.

801
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: It makes it look like he's been he wants out

802
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: because it's always got to look a certain way with him.

803
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: And then you and I go through to listen, we

804
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: look at this. Josh Hart's definitely the first name you

805
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: got to get out of there and then bridges expiring contract,

806
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: and like you said, Thrown Robinson, Hey that gives the

807
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: Lakers a backup big man because they did just get

808
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: DeAndre Ayton, which I'm not a huge on, but hey,

809
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: it's a seven foot kid that can you know if

810
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: he gets his head together.

811
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: I defended him in Phoenix Guys on Radio, and I

812
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 2: defended him in in Phoenix. The problem again with DeAndre

813
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: Aiden is simply this. He is one of those He

814
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: has averaged double doubles all seven years in the NBA,

815
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: but his best year was his second year in Phoenix exactly.

816
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: And then you start doing the analytics and you realize

817
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: that the numbers are deceiving. It's cute. The problem for

818
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: eight and the Lakers is because they got him for

819
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: the right price tag. But if he does have a

820
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: breakout year, he'll opt out right and you're gonna have

821
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: to pay so yeah. But and if he doesn't pan out,

822
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: then you're stuck with him for two years exactly. So

823
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: it's really a lose lose. I understand there was no

824
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: other big man on the board, so you got to

825
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: hope that somehow they can finago unless they win a

826
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 2: championship this year. But if you can add this kind

827
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: of depth, you know, to a Ruie and Austin reason

828
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: the guys that they have, he had a bridge. It's

829
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: a hard rotteney how.

830
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: You might get a fifty win team because we always

831
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: know how to league fluctuates right, like Phoenix is done right.

832
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: They've moved on from the rank. They put some young

833
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: pieces around Booker through the draft for free agency, but.

834
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: That's not a team.

835
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: I think that's that's even ready to be middle of

836
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: the row. We still don't know what the Golden State

837
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: Warrior would be. They still trying to make a move

838
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: here and there. You keep hearing about Young it's his

839
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: name thrown up there. But if you do look back

840
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: to your original question, it would that be enough for

841
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: the Nickobakas to do something in the East? It should, right,

842
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: that's the correct answer, now will it be? Because at

843
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 3: the end of the day, Lebron is still forty gonna

844
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: be forty one, okay. Carl Anthony Towns to me, I

845
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: don't like him as much as most people do because

846
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: I don't like what seven footers can bang inside. But

847
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: they decide to shoot more threes then banging inside the

848
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: next again, more high efficient field goals, getting fouled more times,

849
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: going to the free throw more, which means you could

850
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: probably add four to five more points to your PPG

851
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: every single year if you play that way. But he

852
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: chooses to shoot the three more then banging the post,

853
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: so he's kind of not my guy. But what you

854
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: do give up at heart is the heart and soul

855
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: of your team, and that counts for a lot. And

856
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: do you want to bring on the show and just

857
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: the weight that comes with Lebron to the eight and

858
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: thing really quick?

859
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: If you do have a coach that knows how to

860
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: coach him?

861
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: New York, do you have a coach that Lebron just

862
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: knows he can flat out completely one hund control. That's

863
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: what it feels like to me. It's not Mike Brown

864
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: can handle Lebron. Is Mike Brown just knows how to

865
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 3: wither to Lebron and let Lebron do him.

866
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 2: That's what it was before.

867
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: I don't think that's good change now, but it works

868
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: to get him there because Lebron wants to be somewhere

869
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: where I got control.

870
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: Why are we dismissing Cleveland because sixty three win? When

871
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 2: we all stars on this team with Mitchell, Garland and Mobiley,

872
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: you got DeAndre Hunter, Jared. I mean, this is not

873
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: a championship player. They look at this team as the

874
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: OKC of.

875
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: The They're not Donovan. Mitchell's a good player, he's just

876
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: not a championship player. And he's their best guy. So

877
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: your best guy's not a championship player.

878
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: That's a problem. This Nucleus is going to be around

879
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: for a couple more years. They're gonna have a couple

880
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: of chances here with this team to see if they

881
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 2: can get over the hump. We'll see if that works

882
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: down the road. Hey, Danny Green is gonna be joining

883
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: us in the next hour, three time NBA champion. This

884
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Wellio, rolling along here on another busy

885
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: sports Sunday. This is Fox Sports Sunday, and once again

886
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: we are in the Fox Sports Radio studios. A three

887
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: time NBA champion, National champion in North Carolina, Danny Green

888
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: is going to be joining us, coming up here in

889
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: about sixteen minutes. Checking in with him. Also, John Paul

890
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: Morosi will be joining us on the one o'clock hour,

891
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: and then of course later on in this hour, we're

892
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 2: gonna have the perfect picks. Last week, a stunned VJ.

893
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: Husky found out that what he had thought was a

894
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: narrow lead over yours truly was in deficit. Did you

895
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: there's a theme for this week?

896
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: Well?

897
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: Then he asked for a full explanation. Chris, I showed

898
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: him the sheet. We showed him the spreadsheet. It's all good.

899
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: I would listen.

900
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 3: I'm not tripping, like I said Colby in the fourth quarter, man,

901
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: I like comeback, so give me the bar. Plenty of time,

902
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: we got plenty of take. I'm not worried about it

903
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: when football startsn't clean up.

904
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: Speaking of football, because we're gonna have some basketball talk

905
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: coming up here. But speaking of football, we have the

906
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game now in our sights. Wait we

907
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: are now, if I'm doing the math right, twenty five

908
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: days away? Yep, twenty five days away. As we get

909
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: some And by the way, did you watch the original

910
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 2: Quarterback series?

911
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 3: Because they got it coming back right now of course,

912
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: Quarterback and Receiver. I watched those episodes over and over again.

913
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: I like getting into the mind man. When I when

914
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: I cover games, my questions to the athletes are always

915
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: I want to get like I don't ask how in

916
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: the third quarter on that play where you called like,

917
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: there's so many people just gonna ask that question. I always, hey,

918
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: can you take us through the mentality the thought process.

919
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: Of boom boom boom boom boom, boom boom.

920
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: That's how I impose my questions because I think that's

921
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: what fans want.

922
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: What were you thinking?

923
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 3: Not what you did. I saw what you did. What's

924
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: the mindset? And I think that's that's how I ask

925
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 3: my question. So I watched that stuff over and over again.

926
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: I know people get annoyed when I mentioned my rad

927
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: of years. But the thing about the thing about working

928
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: for the Raiders and working for a team, which was

929
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: really my goal coming out of college. You know, I

930
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: went to UCLA, had been sports editor of the Daily Bruin.

931
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: I had two options. Newspaper work, which is very prevalent

932
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: still in that time, which most of my contemporaries did.

933
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: But I wanted to work public relations for a professional

934
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: sports team, you know, because I could write and that

935
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: was sort of my background. And I interview with the Dodgers,

936
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: I interviewed with the Angels, I interview with the Rams.

937
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: The Rams almost hired me, like it was sort of like,

938
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: we're about to hire you, and then there was a

939
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: twist in the organization that fell through, and then I

940
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: ended up being hired by a team that had just

941
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: come to LA, the Raiders coming off a Super Bowl win.

942
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: I hated the Raiders as a kid. I mean, I

943
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: was like, you know, but the thing about working for

944
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: a team, and I had four and a half years

945
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: working for the Raiders, is that opportunity to see players

946
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: just as people. Yes, okay, so you're watching the whole

947
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: process week after week during the season, during the offseason,

948
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: and you just get to know the guys, obviously in

949
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: a personal level. Most of these guys are still friends

950
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: of mine all these years.

951
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: You know.

952
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: I remember I was at a front you know, Marcus

953
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: All and I became very close and we were at

954
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: some event this maybe I don't know, five years ago,

955
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 2: six years ago together and Doctor j was at this event.

956
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: Marcus was there hosting this event, right, and so Marcus

957
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: walks up to Doctor Jay, who I had met forty

958
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: years before. I knew he went and remember the Marcus

959
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: introduced and that he goes, yeah, Steve used to work

960
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: with me with the Raiders. That's how he introduced to me.

961
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm like thinking, like I work with you and the Raiders.

962
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: Let's see, you were the superstar and I was like

963
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: that little behind the scenes guy. But it was a

964
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: golden opportunity. That's why I love shows like Quarterback because

965
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: it really does take you behind the scenes and remind

966
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: you that these guys have a life beyond just what

967
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 2: they do on the football field. And you don't think

968
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: about that as a fan. You just think about, all right,

969
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: I see the guy in the field, and you know

970
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: the rest of the noise. So that's something I'm always

971
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: grateful for, that opportunity to just get to know these

972
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: guys and you know the highs and lows that they

973
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: go through during the course of a season during a career.

974
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: My favorite thing was after games. The difference in the

975
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: locker rooms after losses and wins is when you can

976
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: really get the vibe and really get that I would listen.

977
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: I was so blessed to do it this past year

978
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: for the Rams and the Chargers, and I didn't miss

979
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: a game. I was the last guy. I would just

980
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: hang around. Man, I was the last guy leaving. I'm done,

981
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: my question everybody, All the networks are gone, all the

982
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: camera and all the whole people. Man, I'm standing there,

983
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm talking to Justin Herbert, I'm talking to McVeigh. Jim

984
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: Harball walked by me one Sunday and he goes, Hey,

985
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: how you doing VJ. And you know I feel about

986
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: Harball Michigan, Dude, I was like I was. I was

987
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: like a little girl meeting Usher as a thirteen year old.

988
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: Like Jim Harball like.

989
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: Knows who I like.

990
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: Hold on, Jim Harball from Michigan knows who I am.

991
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: Like that, and you get that vibe.

992
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: But after losses, you know he still talks, but it's

993
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: a different hullo. It's a different feeling. You see guys

994
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: get out of there quicker. You see, it's just a vibe.

995
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: And then going to the practices, you see who gets

996
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: there early, you see who leaves late. So when you

997
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: see late in the fourth quarter a guy make a

998
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 3: play when you know he's tired as hell, he's played

999
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: ninety percent of the snaps on his side of.

1000
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: The ball, but still gets there to make that play.

1001
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: Until you think about Wednesday, when you were at practice

1002
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: and when everybody else was gone and the sun was

1003
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: set and they had to cut the lights on. He

1004
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: was still running gashers, all right, he was still out there. Yeah,

1005
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: someone was still doing something. And to see that translate

1006
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: to a Sunday, just your respect for that person and

1007
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: just the knowledge you get just goes you know, it

1008
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: just goes up.

1009
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: It goes through the roof, the amount of energy and

1010
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: work that goes in every single week week prepared to

1011
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: play for one game. We had a Monday night game

1012
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: when I worked for the Raiders in Seattle that we

1013
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: lost thirty seven and nothing. So that's a long flight.

1014
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: Off said, that's not a good flight home. So we're

1015
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: on the charter home and mister Davis was walking the aisles.

1016
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: Now the players are basically in the back the rest

1017
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: of us, and every time he'd walked by me, I

1018
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: gnawed off like I was asleep. You know, I just

1019
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 2: I just did not want him to stars. You want

1020
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: to hear quick stories. So we had we had a

1021
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: game in Kansas City. It was it was where it

1022
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: was our second game of the eighty five season. We

1023
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: had opened up at home against the Jets, blow him

1024
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: out thirty one nothing. Then we have a Thursday game

1025
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: in Kansas City and we weren't ready and we got

1026
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: blown out in the second half and from Arrowhead to

1027
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: the airport, so I kept forty five minute ride. So

1028
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: one of my jobs was we had usually four buses

1029
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: that would leave the stadium to go back to the airport,

1030
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: and my job was to be on the last bus

1031
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: to make sure we don't accidentally leave anybody behind. Mister

1032
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: Davis would normally be on the first bus. So as

1033
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: we're about to unload with the fourth bus and Marcus

1034
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: Allen and I are literally sitting next to each other

1035
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: on this last bus, I hear this wait and I

1036
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: look out here comes mister Davis. I'm like, oh no,

1037
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: So he was about to leave the owner, so he

1038
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: had left, he had, I don't know, talking to people.

1039
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: So the second heg obviously got on this bus after

1040
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: an ugly loss, dead silence on the bus. So the

1041
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: only place for him to sit it was like a

1042
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: side bench in the front of the bus. Was I

1043
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: was sitting with al Davis on my left and Marcus

1044
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: Allen on my right, and I'm in the middle. So

1045
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: we have this ride. It's dead silent right along, and

1046
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, mister Davis looks to his right.

1047
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, not even there, Like I don't exist. He's

1048
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: looking over at Marcus and he says, what the bleep

1049
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: happened out there? And he didn't say bleep? I know

1050
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: because he loved the effort right and without his And

1051
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there. Marcus looks over and he goes,

1052
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: we lost. And I'm thinking, answer, answer, that's bad. He goes,

1053
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 2: we lost, and and al did not say another word.

1054
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: I could literally feel to keep generating off of him. See,

1055
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: these are the type of things you don't understand.

1056
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: But I mean by Marcus out because coach, like, honestly.

1057
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: What do you what do you want? What do you

1058
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: want me to thank you? What do you want me

1059
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 2: to say? Marcus? We lost? We lost? Law?

1060
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: And See, that's the difference between that era in today's era,

1061
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 3: because the fact is this, at the end of the day,

1062
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: did you win or lose the game? Did you win

1063
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: or lose the Yet we can all come up with

1064
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: our own narratives and our own.

1065
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: Variables as to why.

1066
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, do you have

1067
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: an additional number in the win column or do you

1068
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: have an additional number in the lost column?

1069
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: Period? And if you, I guess I was just win, baby,

1070
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 2: just win. There are no style points in the NFL,

1071
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: no at all. It's it's a black and white situation.

1072
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: You win, you lose, you lose. You win or you lose.

1073
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: Did you make the kick or miss it? And you

1074
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 2: make turn the page immediately? Oh next week? Yeah?

1075
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: Oh you. I mean even if you win, Well, here's

1076
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: the thing. When you win, you actually have.

1077
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: To work harder. Yeah.

1078
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: Well, I mean again, you're going to get a team

1079
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: that knows you're coming in off of a win.

1080
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: You don't even have time to think about it. You

1081
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: gotta get ready for the next, next game, next game,

1082
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: and Bill, Bill Belichick, we're moving on. So, I mean,

1083
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: it was that that's the kind of behind the scenes

1084
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: stuff that you get to see, and I wish everyone

1085
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: had that opportunity if you're a die hard, you know,

1086
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: and just sort of wonder about these guys. And again

1087
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: we're talking about this show Quarterback, and it sort of

1088
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: turns your heels back the curtain a little bit and

1089
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: you give a little idea. And I thought with the

1090
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: first series there, you know, with Mahomes and Kirk, Cousins

1091
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: and Mariota, they had a nice mix a guy's three

1092
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: different sort of levels of their lives. And their career. Yeah,

1093
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 2: so I thought. So this year they have what they

1094
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: have golf and they have Josh Allen.

1095
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 3: I think Josh Allen is it because he just got married,

1096
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: so that would be a good one to have there.

1097
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: What quarterback did for me, I still don't like Him'm

1098
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: not a fan. He's great, but I don't like him.

1099
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan just as what it is. It

1100
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 3: made me respect Pat Mahomes a whole lot more than

1101
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: you red Man. He works so damn hard and I

1102
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 3: will never allow anyone in my presence to see him

1103
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: make one of those magical plays and go, oh, that's luck. Oh,

1104
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: actually it's not, because he actually trains. Where he stands

1105
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: on the bowlsoe ball and he holds a broomstick in

1106
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: one hand and leans to the left and repeatedly throws

1107
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: a football like no, no. He does this while standing

1108
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: on the bozo ball, not standing flat footed like he's

1109
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 3: all ready to. So that's working core, that's working calf,

1110
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 3: that's working, that's working everything. And so when you see him,

1111
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: so when I see that, I go, yeah, he trains it.

1112
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: That's not luck, guys. He trains to do that. It's

1113
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: like shooting a thousand jumpers a day. Kobe braings to

1114
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: always say I've done this in practice and all my

1115
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: own so many times that when it comes to the game,

1116
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if you're standing right there. I've done

1117
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: this move, got to that spot and shot this shot

1118
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: a thousand times this summer, and I did that all

1119
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: over the floor, So I shot at ten thousand shots.

1120
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: You think this one shot on January fourteenth and Toronto

1121
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: is gonna scare me?

1122
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: Dude, I've shot this shot a thousand times over the

1123
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: last four months. Please, because you work at it. He

1124
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: why love pass off the fact that again he's training

1125
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: for what he needs to do on the football field.

1126
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 2: He's not training to flex in mirror. No, No, that's

1127
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: not what he's talking about. What do I need to

1128
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: work on so I can get that extra step or

1129
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: extra move, make us throw at a certain angle that

1130
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: could be the difference between winning and losing the game.

1131
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 3: Functional training is what we call it in personal training

1132
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 3: business sacimon functions training.

1133
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we'll switch gears.

1134
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: Get back to all this NBA news. Who better to

1135
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: break it down than the man that played the game

1136
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: at the highest level. A three time NBA champion with

1137
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: three different franchises, Danny Green will join us. This is

1138
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Harmon and Husky. I hope you're enjoying

1139
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: her Fourth of July a weekend. Once again. We're having

1140
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: a great time out here in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1141
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yes, sirs always and we got a special

1142
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 3: guest right now, man On Harmon and Husky. This gentleman

1143
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite tar heels of all time.

1144
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: He is a three time NBHA being for three different franchise.

1145
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: He's also in All Defensive Player two back in twenty sixteen,

1146
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. We crossed pass covering the Lakers this past

1147
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: year at Crypto and you know, it's just it's a

1148
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: joy to bring on former NBA champion, My man, mister

1149
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: Danny Green.

1150
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: What's going on, Danny?

1151
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: Not much, man Hew, you guys doing now?

1152
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: Thank you for making time for us, myself and then

1153
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 3: our co host Steve Hartman here man.

1154
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: So let's let's get right to it, Danny Green.

1155
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: Right now, we're sitting in the free agency pull right now,

1156
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: coming off for fourth of July weekend. A lot of

1157
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: moves be made. First question, I'll throw to you, what

1158
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: move do you think impacts the league the fastest that's

1159
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: been made so far in the free agency this year.

1160
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you see the seventeen trade, first of history

1161
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 4: to get Kevin Durant to Houston. So I think he'll

1162
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 4: impact the league pretty you know, quickly, or impact Houston

1163
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 4: pretty quickly. But I like what a lot of teams

1164
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: have done, like what Atlanta has done. I like what

1165
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 4: the Troy has done, And the Ani made a couple

1166
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: small moveses recently they lost some Miles Turner. I like

1167
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 4: what Denver did if they can keep valence units to

1168
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 4: stay over here. But yeah, man, there was some really

1169
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: good moveses off season by those teams, mainly Detroit and Atlanta.

1170
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: Dallas got the number one pick, but the tray Atlanta

1171
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: made some really good moves outside of Houston, all.

1172
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: Right, Danny, Steve Harvin here. First of all, I was

1173
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: there when you win your national championship at the Ford

1174
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: Field in two thousand and nine. I was there for

1175
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, side by side Sean Farnan and I

1176
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 2: were sitting courtside for your demolition of Michigan State that day.

1177
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: By the way, I saw magic outside the Arena. He

1178
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: was very disappointed at his spartan. Could I ask you

1179
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: quick question again, You're a three time NBA champion. Compare

1180
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: winning a national championship at North Carolina as opposed to

1181
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: winning an NBA championship. Give us a comparison, because not

1182
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: everyone has that opportunity to win both a national Championionship

1183
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: and an NBA championshipped. How are they the same? How

1184
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: are they different?

1185
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 4: They're very different. But you know, I don't want to

1186
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: discredit either one of them. Both of them are very

1187
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 4: extremely hard to do. I think you need a little

1188
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 4: more luck on your side when it comes to winning

1189
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: a national championship than it is the NBA Championship. But

1190
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 4: I think the NBA Championship it's harder to do, mainly

1191
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 4: because it's one game elimination. You know, you got to

1192
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 4: be healthy through the whole month of March. Same with

1193
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: the playoffs. You have to be healthy. But usually the

1194
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 4: cream of the crop, you know, the cream rides to

1195
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: the top when it comes to the playoffs. The better

1196
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 4: teams usually win a lot of times in NCAA tournament,

1197
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 4: that's not the case. You have one bad night on

1198
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 4: a Sunday or Thursday or a Saturday, and you can

1199
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: lose to a you know, a sixteen seed. So it's

1200
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 4: a little bit harder to do. But hard describing the words,

1201
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 4: hard to put it into perspective, and harder to say

1202
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: which one is you know that much better than the other.

1203
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 4: So I think it's just you need a little more

1204
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 4: luck when it comes in tournament, and I think and

1205
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 4: the playoffs in the NBA, I think it's a little

1206
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 4: bit tougher, uh to do to be the team four

1207
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 4: times and do that for rounds.

1208
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: Daddy, you're a guy that stayed relatively healthy when you

1209
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 3: were at Carolina and then you know me man connected

1210
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: with my netfw knd of Marshall. Thank you very much

1211
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: as always for the old nine National championship.

1212
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: Brother, you will always be always being my heart and

1213
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: so man.

1214
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: But there there's an epidemic going on the NBA with

1215
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: these torn achilles, eight of them this year alone. Being

1216
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 3: a former player, being a guy that you know, like

1217
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: I said, you're relatively state and healthy, they want to

1218
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: shorting games. You're hearing a lot of people, Draymond Green,

1219
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: Lebron You're in people saying a lot of stuff right

1220
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: now just from your opinion, though, what's going on?

1221
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: Is it a lack of training, Danny.

1222
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 3: Is it a lack of practice because you you removed

1223
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 3: from the game now dude, dude, the guy's not practice

1224
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: enough and now you're trying to put your body out here.

1225
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 3: Just your opinion. What do you think is the problem

1226
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: and do you think it can be fixed? As far

1227
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 3: as this achilles epidemic going on.

1228
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: One hundred percent could be fixed. Obviously now people more

1229
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 4: aware of it, so I think trainers are more aware

1230
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 4: of focusing on those parts of the bodies right, making

1231
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: sure the cavs achilles is strengthen, making sure you're lifting.

1232
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 4: And I think more superstars are more aware of it

1233
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 4: as well, like all right, you know, I probably need

1234
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 4: to make sure I stay on top of this. A

1235
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: more player, not a superstars, but more players. But it

1236
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 4: could be a combination of both, man like it might be.

1237
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: You know, people are saying the shoes, some people are

1238
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 4: saying it's not I don't think it's the shoes and

1239
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: low tops. I think it's a lack of it could

1240
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 4: be conditioning or too much conditioning. But I think your

1241
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 4: body is conditioned to what you put it through and

1242
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 4: what you're used to, and I think that's probably maybe

1243
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 4: could be lack of practice. You know, the guys back

1244
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: in the day did more up and down in practice,

1245
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 4: so it could have helped in that aspect, but who knows.

1246
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: More importantly, I think it's just the right recovery and

1247
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: the right of strength and condition and off season and

1248
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: during the season, and maybe some guys aren't on tubes.

1249
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: Everybody's body is different, right, so you just never know.

1250
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 4: But as of right now, I think it's it's another

1251
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 4: thing that people is brought to the forefront and everybody's

1252
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 4: aware of it, and I think it's will get better.

1253
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: Danny, I have to ask you because this is something

1254
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 2: not only I'm curious about, but my younger son, who

1255
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: is a diehard Laker fan, wants to know the answer

1256
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: because in twenty twenty, you guys win the championship. You

1257
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: and KCP were the starting backcourt for that entire run

1258
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: in the postseason, and then it just seemed like they

1259
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: were hell bent on dismantling that team after winning a championships.

1260
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you, And.

1261
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: So my question is why were the Lakers so anxious

1262
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: to break up a team that had just won a championship,

1263
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 2: and if you had held that team together, is it

1264
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: conceivable that the Lakers would be in a much better

1265
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: situation right now?

1266
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 4: I don't know about right now because I was five

1267
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 4: years ago. I think the team still would be different

1268
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 4: from that point to right now. I don't know if

1269
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 4: they were hell bent on it, but I think we know.

1270
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 4: For me from when I was moved, I understood the situation.

1271
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: You know, they were trying to get somebody to bront him.

1272
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 4: That brought her and Schroeder which said it made sense,

1273
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: So I got it. I understand the business out of it.

1274
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: I think they felt like we needed some changes because

1275
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: some of the things weren't working or some things weren't

1276
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 4: going smoothly. Do I think we could have gotten back? Yes,

1277
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: I think we definite wud have gotten back to the finals.

1278
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 4: If we just stayed together for another year or two,

1279
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: two more years, I think we would have got back

1280
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 4: and probably at least one one more maybe, But it

1281
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 4: all depended on if Adca healthy. You know, I think

1282
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 4: they were really good teams still with a D. Then

1283
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: he's got hurt the next year against Phoenix, But who's

1284
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 4: to say he wouldn't be healthy? If you have Jabelle McGee,

1285
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: Dwight Howard there where he doesn't have to play the

1286
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 4: five as much, right, so, you know, who knows. There's

1287
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 4: a lot of what if, It's a lot of this

1288
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: or that. But yeah, I think we were a good team.

1289
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: I think we could have they could have at least

1290
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 4: won one more and got to the finals at least

1291
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 4: one other time. So but yeah, I don't know if

1292
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 4: they were hell bent on it, and I don't know

1293
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 4: if they'd be better off today. But I do think

1294
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 4: some trades and I think everybody can agree that that

1295
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 4: didn't make sense, it didn't work out, and that happens

1296
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: in every organization.

1297
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: Right Fox Sports Sunday Hartman and Husky.

1298
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: Right now we have one three time former NBA champion,

1299
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: North Carolina Tario champion also to Danny Green.

1300
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 2: Danny Enough layups Man. We like to cause little trouble

1301
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: here on the radio.

1302
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes some of the questions ask no, but seriously, man,

1303
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 3: just to simply put Opening Night, October twenty twenty five,

1304
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: Lebron James is wearing a Laker uniform or he is

1305
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: wearing one of the other thirty one team uniforms.

1306
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: He's wearing a Lake uniform. He ain't going nowhere man.

1307
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 4: Him and BROWNI are. They're very comfortable and you know,

1308
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: in the organization, and he's making fifty three million. I

1309
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 4: don't see them waving that or buying that out and

1310
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: do that. Just sounds crazy for Lebron James to be

1311
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: waved about out the whole sentence.

1312
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: What about trade? What about traded Danny?

1313
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 4: I don't see that happening either. This is hard for

1314
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 4: a team to trade.

1315
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: For hold on, hold on, hold on, Danny, Danny, Danny.

1316
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: J and I already have the trade. We already got

1317
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: the trade that we want to run this by you.

1318
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: So we were curious. We were curious why the Knicks

1319
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: would hire Mike Brown except for the fact that Mike

1320
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: Brown used to be Lebron's coach, and then we have

1321
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: a deal wouldn't involve it's actually a salary for salary trade.

1322
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: You trade Lebron to the Knicks for Josh Hart, the

1323
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: Cal Bridges who has an expiring deal, Mitchell Robinson has

1324
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: an expiring deal. Deal done. The Lakers get Bridges Heart,

1325
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: who they really want. We know they want Josh Hart

1326
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: and Robinson, and Lebron goes and he joins Towns and Annobe.

1327
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: Obviously Brunson there in New York. The East is wide open.

1328
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: He wants to win a championship.

1329
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 4: The mckel bridge extension.

1330
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: No, no, he's got an expiring contract. Man, he's going

1331
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: to be a free agent.

1332
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 4: A three year extension.

1333
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: We missed that. Do we miss that? Danny?

1334
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 4: Either way, if you're the Knicks, why would you Why would.

1335
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: You do that? Because you're the Knicks because by the way, uh.

1336
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 4: The Lebron is great, but the window is even shorter now,

1337
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 4: you know, like you It's the reason why I said

1338
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 4: it's hard to make a trade for him, not that

1339
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: he's not worth it, it's just it's a high risk

1340
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 4: for a short period of time. You have to win

1341
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 4: a championship in the next two.

1342
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: Year or two No, one year, one year. That's a

1343
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: whole what's the thing, Danny? Get The Knicks had a

1344
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: wonner championship since Richard Nixon was president. Okay, so if

1345
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: you were to tell Knicks fans, look, we're going to

1346
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: bring in for Lebron for one year. You know, the

1347
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: Celtics are down, the Pacers are down with the injuriesbelievable,

1348
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: Milwaukee's up in the air. We don't know the honest situation.

1349
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 4: Sure you won you think you don't know if this

1350
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 4: is about it's going to hold up for the whole year.

1351
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 4: So that's a lot of risks to put it in

1352
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 4: all your eggs into one year at Lebron at forty

1353
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 4: one years old. And I think he's very good, but

1354
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 4: you're losing a lot of your young cores, a lot

1355
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 4: of your depths which you barely even had to begin with.

1356
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 4: So you're giving up Michael Bridges, Josh Hart and then

1357
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 4: who else?

1358
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: Robinson Robinson just a salary, a throwing though, just be

1359
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: throwing though.

1360
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 3: But I think the Lakers would want one that's a

1361
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: backup big man to go with Jackson Hayes and to

1362
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 3: go DeAndre.

1363
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they want Mitchell Robinson to go with Luke of course.

1364
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: So that's a lot of pieces to give up to

1365
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 4: get to the Lakers. If I'm the Lakers, yeah, I'll

1366
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: probably take that. But if I'm the next it's like,

1367
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 4: all right, we got one player, got red of three.

1368
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 4: We were already lacking depths, So you're gonna fire Mike

1369
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 4: Brown for the same thing he did with Tids and

1370
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: playing only six man rotation. I don't know, man, that's

1371
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: a that's a tough tough self for me. If I'm

1372
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 4: the Knicks.

1373
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: Hey, it's a trade, uh, my partner and I came

1374
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: up with here because I just think I'm a conspiracy guy.

1375
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes, Man, you hire Mike Brown, Okay, his name was.

1376
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: Not even being mentioned, and you had other guys out there, Bunahozer,

1377
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 3: Mike Malone and Vogel who have all won championships, who've

1378
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: all handled this era of players as head coaches, done

1379
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 3: well and have handled superstars.

1380
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: But you hire Mike Brown. He had to be well

1381
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: for thirteenth on the list from all the names we heard,

1382
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: and then you start to hear John Staley was ahead

1383
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: of him, right, Don Staley's name popped up before Mike Brown.

1384
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: But that they didn't have many options. Everybody was not

1385
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 4: the people they wanted is not available. That's why you

1386
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 4: don't fire a coach unless you have something.

1387
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: Already in the back exactly good or better.

1388
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 4: They didn't have that, so they fired TIBs and they

1389
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 4: were looking for back and plant see if other guys

1390
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 4: let go. But it didn't happen. So ultimately and it

1391
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 4: sucks for Mikey, but they end up settling, which I

1392
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 4: think is a good settlement because Mike, I think it's

1393
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: a great coach. But I don't think that's the reason

1394
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 4: why you got them to get Lebron. I don't think

1395
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 4: that helps any And are you guys Knicks fans, because

1396
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: I just don't.

1397
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: Know what We're trying to put the pieces together, Danny else,

1398
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: something doesn't smell right, so we're trying to figure out.

1399
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: We're just trying to start so man, because they don't

1400
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: smell right, Danny, you and I.

1401
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 4: You and I have talked, bro, like I feel you

1402
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 4: I could see other places. But the nixt I don't know,

1403
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 4: said to give up all those seasons, get Bron and

1404
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 4: Browny James. Yeah, people want to watch and sell tickets

1405
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 4: and everything like that. But forty one, we don't know

1406
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 4: if he's gonna be healthy the whole season, which I mean,

1407
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 4: he's proven everybody around every year, and it's a lot

1408
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 4: a lot of eggs in one basket for one year

1409
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 4: because if you don't win this year, you're done for

1410
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: the next and so you can rebuild again, which who

1411
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 4: knows how long that's gonna be.

1412
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, great point man, great robuta we'll get back

1413
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 3: at it, Danny Green. I listen, brother, you know I

1414
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: got love for you, man, God, but I appreciate you

1415
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 3: so much. Sate all the convo at the Laker guns Man,

1416
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: thanks for coming on Hartman and Husk on Fox Sports Radio.

1417
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 4: We're great appreciate you guys. Man.

1418
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: Let's take it easy, all right, Danny, great stuff, love it,

1419
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: love it, love it. Well, you know, I think we

1420
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: got right. We're trying to convince everybody on this run here.

1421
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: But again, I get back to this. If you're a

1422
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: next fan and you're saying, all right, we only get

1423
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: it for one year, all right, it's going to be

1424
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: enough to at least get us to the NBA finals

1425
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: that year, and of course they would take that and

1426
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: fifty years since they won, plus Lee would go crazy.

1427
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now?

1428
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: Are you buying into what we're selling. No, she's never done,

1429
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: not at all.

1430
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 7: Lebron cannot go to another team. He cannot possibly go.

1431
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: He's going though to the cat. I'm calling it right now.

1432
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: They're gonna trade him. He will not when they suit

1433
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: up for twenty twenty five open a night would not

1434
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: be I don't got that.

1435
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 7: Oh, No, he'll start because of Bronny. He's not. He

1436
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 7: may be traded throughout the season, but he'll start the

1437
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 7: season as a Laker. He cannot go to the next him.

1438
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: Being traded during the season would be even worse.

1439
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: It's being traded now.

1440
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 7: He would decide that, Like, he's not he's not leaving

1441
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 7: right now. Why would he leave the Lakers?

1442
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: First of all, when she says Cleveland, Cleveland does have

1443
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: more pieces to move and you talk about an all

1444
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: star backcourt, the young big guy Lebron comes home, right,

1445
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: that's the chan the king champion comes home.

1446
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 4: I got it.

1447
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 8: He can't possibly go to another team water down your

1448
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 8: career more, my guy.

1449
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: You know what, he can't go to another team but

1450
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,479
Speaker 2: the Cats.

1451
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 7: Oh, yes, that's what. That's right. You know what I'm saying.

1452
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: Like from a standpoint, it's New yr York. Can you

1453
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: imagine if you won a championship in one year in

1454
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 2: New York but he's not.

1455
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 7: I don't think that's what New York is missing Lebron

1456
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 7: James to win. I don't think that's what the missing.

1457
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 7: What are they what are they going to give up to.

1458
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 5: Bridges and.

1459
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 7: Then you lose some of your best defenders.

1460
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: But you still have your big three that you currently

1461
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: have plus Lebron.

1462
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, but who's defending.

1463
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 8: Who's defending at the end in the seven game series,

1464
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 8: Your your legs are exhausted, which is what we saw

1465
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 8: with the Knicks.

1466
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: Which is how Sims coaches, which is Brown's not going

1467
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: to coach that way. I don't know. I know, he's

1468
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: supposedly a defensive coach, right right, he's a defensive guy.

1469
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 8: I just think if Lebron went to another team and

1470
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 8: then there is no success, you're you're literally like, we're

1471
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 8: gonna remember the end of his career and it's not great,

1472
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 8: you know, going to Cleveland.

1473
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: Right now, there's nobody left from when he was in Cleveland.

1474
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: Probably it's like a new team anyway.

1475
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 7: It's just like him leaving the Lakers admits that he

1476
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 7: that this was a failure. The minute he leaves the Lakers,

1477
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 7: you admit this experiment was a failure.

1478
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: But he also like, look, he's a very smart guy.

1479
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 2: Do I have a better chance going with this Laker

1480
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: team to the NBA Finals or going to Cleveland or

1481
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: New York in the East and getting to the NBA Finals?

1482
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 7: Of course, But why did he leave the East in

1483
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 7: the first place because.

1484
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 3: He wanted to come and he wanted to come to

1485
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 3: La wanted to come to l A and e raise Kobe.

1486
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 3: So you can get into the God conversation with Jordan.

1487
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 3: I always said that from day one, because you could

1488
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: have came to Sound with the Clippers and actually think

1489
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 3: about it. But I'm just saying, just think about it hypothetically,

1490
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: say he didn't.

1491
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: Want to bubble with lebron as the Clippers, right, anybody

1492
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: had all the other business of that franchise forever.

1493
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 3: Now of course if you went here, guess what's just

1494
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 3: another Lakers?

1495
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:54,919
Speaker 2: Was just hear what exactly?

1496
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Speaker 7: I totally agree with that. As from that, what I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: like the minute he leaves, it admits to failure.

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Speaker 8: Right, So that's why I don't think he doesn't start

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 8: the season as a Laker and then if things don't

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Speaker 8: go well, then he's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Did And that's what I think. That's why that's why

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01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: I think that Josh Monsey, she has a whole show

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01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: coming up with care Man.

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Speaker 7: That's all good. It's a good conversation.

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01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: I like talking.

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01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,480
Speaker 7: It is a good conversation.

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01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 8: This week Dan and I had a show, and we

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01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 8: did a low Watch twenty twenty five and so watch,

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01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 8: and we even had drop like a political like.

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 7: Low Watch twenty twenty five, and we just.

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01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 8: Started like diving into the social media because we don't

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Speaker 8: know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 7: It's just fun.

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Speaker 3: It's fun.

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: It's fun out there.

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 3: They're they're talking about moving them, guys, I'm telling you,

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: and I'm sure business wise they're talking about move Look.

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01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I know the Lakers want to move him.

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 2: The Lakers absolutely, I agree with you on that totally.

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 8: I just don't Lebron's gonna be like, well the minute

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01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 8: you move me insat to admit that this was a mistake.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 8: The Red Sox are up on the Nationals four to two,

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Speaker 8: top of the seventh inning.

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Speaker 7: Call Schwarber, with an RBI double, has tied the game for.

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Speaker 8: The Phillies against the Reds one one bottom of the seventh.

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01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 8: It's been back and forth between the Angels and the

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 8: Blue Jays Toronto back on top three to two, bottom

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Speaker 8: of the sixth inning. The Brewers have a three to

1531
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 8: one lead over the Marlins in Miami. It is the

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01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 8: top of the ninth inning and all rise because Aaron

1533
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 8: Judge has hit his thirty third homer of the season.

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01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 7: Yankees trying to avoid a three game sweep by the Mets.

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01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 8: Right now they are up five to two bottom of

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Speaker 8: the sixth inning. Mets to have a man on first

1537
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 8: and second and they have all their outs for this one.

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Speaker 8: The Raiser edging the Twins two to one bottom of

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 8: the fifth Rockies on the scoreboard first against the White

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01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 8: Sox one zero, bottom of the second inning, and the

1541
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 8: Orioles did complete a three game sweep of the Braids

1542
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 8: two to one. At Wimbledon, Carlos Algaz in his fourth

1543
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 8: round match, he lost his first set in a tiebreak,

1544
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 8: but won the next two sets and right now he

1545
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 8: is up four sets to two, while fellow American and

1546
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 8: five seed tailor Fritz not fellow American are fellow American

1547
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 8: five seed tailor Fritz is headed to the quarterfinals.

1548
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 7: And in NFL news, Dallas Cowboys wide.

1549
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 8: Receiver Cavante Turpin was arrested this morning for a weapon

1550
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 8: and marijuana charges.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Monsey, thank you very

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 2: much again, Harbin Huski. The Fox Sports radio studios, don't

1553
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: forget to check out Fox Sports Radios YouTube channel a

1554
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1556
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Speaker 2: access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. All right,

1559
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: it is that time here we are precise profitables over

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Speaker 2: under a half a flagrant gentlemen, are your perfet picks?

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Speaker 2: All right? So we have perfet picks. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be a two segment. Obviously, we have a short segment.

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 2: We'll finish this on the other side. Chris, how are

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01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 2: you man ready for perfet picks? Well, I am kind

1565
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: of ripped up a little bit.

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Speaker 9: It has been a weird weekend for me, partly from

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01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 9: lack of sleep, partly from some personal stuff. Either way,

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 9: though we are on the next perfect picks is my

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01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 9: throat is kind of raspy. We're still waiting for that

1570
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 9: to find out. Novak Djokovic, I didn't realize you plays

1571
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 9: tomorrow for round four? Does leave only two on the board?

1572
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 9: You guys split days until the NBA suspends my league

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01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 9: Beasley four and a half, Steve, you win that on

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01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 9: the on the over they still haven't done anything about that.

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01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: And VJU take USA Costa Rica.

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 9: USA ended up going way over one and a half

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 9: goals against Costa Rica. They're in that Gold Cup final

1578
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 9: and May it's USA Mexico again. How things change the

1579
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 9: more they stay to say, leaving the current count at

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 9: fifteen to eleven.

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: So we will keep catching up on this.

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01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 9: I do find it interesting that I'm seeing some reports

1583
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 9: that we might end up seeing shder Sanders starting to

1584
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 9: court the CFL, that you know once again that they

1585
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 9: might not make it out of Brown's camp just thrown

1586
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 9: us back.

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01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 2: To the original CFL. Yeah wow, yeah, is he going

1588
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 2: to make it out of camp?

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 9: It's a valid question about I think there's just so

1590
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 9: much noise around the Cleveland Browns right now you never

1591
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 9: know what's.

1592
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 2: And they're also trying to get the city to pay

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01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: for a new stadium, which is.

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 9: Black's weird looks weird. I don't like these new stadiums.

1595
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 9: I don't like this entire look anyway, let's get one

1596
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 9: off the ground. There is a theme today, there's a

1597
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 9: theme today with picks. But we're gonna do the theme

1598
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 9: on the other side. What we will do for the

1599
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 9: first one and really I feel bad giving this ye

1600
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 9: before we go to break. But Fox Sports just put

1601
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 9: out their top ten quarterbacks going into the twenty twenty

1602
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 9: five list after we had been having a conversation as

1603
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 9: I saw this stuff. But maaw, who was at number

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 9: one right right VJ? Number one over Patrick Mahomes was

1605
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 9: Josh Allen. Yes, I don't know how much I want

1606
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 9: to agree with that. I think Josh Allen is very

1607
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 9: good Bills. Since we're doing our NFL futures, eleven and

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01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 9: a half wins is your season total. I feel like

1609
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 9: every year we look at the Bills, it's like, oh, yeah,

1610
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 9: this is the year they're going to take a step back,

1611
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 9: and then surprise, surprise, still good.

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01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 2: In the rest of the AFC East is still trash.

1613
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: All right, So right now, since VJ is trailing overall, cheat,

1614
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: I would like to give you the option. Would you

1615
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: like me to go first or would you like to

1616
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: go first on the over runner on Josh ap the Bills?

1617
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: No matter what it's up to you, man, I'm gonna

1618
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 2: go first though. All right, this is the year the

1619
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills are gonna win a Super Bowl? Oh god,

1620
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: so eleven and a half this is gonna be playing

1621
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: in that woefully weekske Smember, I got Miami with what

1622
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: six wins this year, so lucky to win. You win Dallas? Yeah,

1623
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: I did, Dallas doing it all the Bills this year.

1624
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: Bills will probably win thirteen fourteen games at least this

1625
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: year playing in that week division. So way over, easily over.

1626
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: Eleven and a half for the Buffalo Bills A tough one.

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 3: Eleven and a half, boy, man, that's Vegas really trying

1628
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 3: to suck to you into some bets.

1629
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: Ten and a half. I don't take the over, but

1630
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: eleven and a half now I need him to be

1631
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: twelve and five. AFC is tough, man. It's not about

1632
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: their division. AFC is just tough. Honestly.

1633
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 3: I think Air is going to do a pretty good

1634
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 3: job with that just defense. I don't know what their

1635
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 3: offense will be, but I know their defense will stop

1636
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 3: some people this year.

1637
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: Saying with the Patriots.

1638
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 3: People love the Patriots, pecially the guys sitting to my

1639
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 3: left here who was raving for the Patriots, but now

1640
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 3: they're try So he's got the Dolphins for four or

1641
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: five wins, all right, you know, give me, give me

1642
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 3: buff Buffalo is still bufflong. I'm gonna try to do

1643
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 3: reverse psychology with myself right here, so I'll take the over.

1644
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 3: I won't I won't explain the reverse psychology, but I'm

1645
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: playing with my own brain.

1646
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: Here, give me the over. Finally, curse the theme begins,

1647
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: the Curse of the Cat Kings. Oh okay, that's a

1648
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: little tease for you. Coming up with more perfet picks

1649
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Sunday, Harbor and Husky Here Fox

1650
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We continue on with the Perfet the precise,

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01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 2: profitable over under a half a flagrant. Are your perfect picks?

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01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 5: Right?

1653
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 9: As I said, We've got a themes, the restless one

1654
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 9: which is Curse of the Cat People. Taking from Tom Selleck,

1655
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 9: who on was I always remember an interview with him

1656
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 9: when he was being tapped for Blue Bloods. They wanted

1657
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 9: to wear a Yankees had kind of like you know,

1658
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 9: Magnum key I with a Tiger's cap and he had

1659
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 9: a Detroit Tiger's logo sewn in the back because he

1660
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 9: wanted to avoid the Curse of the Cap people. We

1661
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 9: had a similar situation Cleveland this week where JK. Simmons

1662
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 9: throughout the first pitch. On June twenty six. He was

1663
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 9: wearing a Cleveland Guardians jersey, but someone caught a picture

1664
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 9: of it and underneath it was a Detroit Tigers shirt.

1665
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 2: Wosh JK.

1666
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 9: Simmons is a Detroit fan. Since that time, the Guardians

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01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 9: have not won a single game. Oh and eight, I believe,

1668
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 9: although right now they're up one nothing on said Tigers.

1669
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 9: So we'll start there before going over to the other

1670
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 9: person who has disrespected both Cleveland and Detroit this week.

1671
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 9: So just make this quick on the Guardians over under

1672
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 9: wins before next week three and a half. They have

1673
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 9: seven games before we come back and get close to

1674
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 9: the All Star break.

1675
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: I gotta take a look at their schedule. I just

1676
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: had it up. I should have kept it up.

1677
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 5: That is.

1678
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: That's okay right now? The Tigers too long, second and third,

1679
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: So all right, so we're including today's game.

1680
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 9: You have this one game of Detroit three against Houston,

1681
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 9: four against the White Sox.

1682
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, over three four and three against Houston four,

1683
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: all on the road.

1684
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 9: And yeah, so that that fourth one against the White

1685
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 9: Sox one counts. This is during our time on air.

1686
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 9: But yeah, so three is Chicago three Houston, this game

1687
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 9: in Detroit.

1688
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm counting three and a half wins. I probably set

1689
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 2: this too high you.

1690
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 3: Did, but I'll take the over because I think they'll

1691
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 3: hold on basis loaded bottom of the eighth. So I'm

1692
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: liking what I'm saying here at two outs until somebody

1693
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 3: hits a grounder, is right.

1694
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 2: You know that is a tough number. I mean, obviously,

1695
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: Houston White Sox.

1696
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 4: Are not.

1697
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you're going on, I'll take the under here.

1698
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: I'll take the under here. So there there, they're on

1699
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: a those die. We hope I can get today's game,

1700
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: so I'll go over. All right. So we've got a

1701
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 2: bit of a kerfuffle happening in the w n B.

1702
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 9: A Caitlin Clark's been out of the Fever lineup, but

1703
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 9: a bigger story in that the w NBA recently announced

1704
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 9: they're going to be going to Detroit and Cleveland, and

1705
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 9: Sophie Cunningham of the Indian and Indiana Fever got herself

1706
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 9: in a little bit of hot water, saying her words

1707
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 9: were taken of context. I don't feel so uh, just

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 9: kind of saying no, you know, I'm not sure she

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01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 9: really wants to go to Detroit or Cleveland. She would

1710
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 9: rather go to Nashville or Kansas City, which very interesting

1711
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 9: choices there. So this is gonna be a bit of

1712
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 9: a cross promote sport promotion. I know it's up in

1713
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 9: the air. I know it's malleable. Tigers also play on

1714
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 9: seven on July ninth against Tampa, while the Fever play

1715
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 9: the Valkyries on July ninth. So Sophie Cunningham over under

1716
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 9: on points. The over under is the combined run from

1717
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 9: Detroit and Tampa. Last three games for Sophie Cunningham was

1718
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 9: two points, four points thirteen.

1719
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 3: Over under also two In her comments, they weren't taken

1720
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: out of context. She could she could kill with that.

1721
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 3: She actually sounded like she was crying and complaining. And

1722
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 3: she also mentioned about the market. No, it was it

1723
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 3: was all about like, we know what you want.

1724
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 2: Now now you're putting other teams in our market, is

1725
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: what she said.

1726
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 9: Also too, it is the combined runs of the July

1727
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 9: ninth Detroit and Tampa baseball game over under.

1728
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 3: What's the number that's that's whatever they score. Oh, she

1729
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 3: has been extremely hot cold, so that's why I like that.

1730
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 3: So over under they have more point more runs than

1731
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 3: she scores. Yes, both teams runs Oh that's a good one, man.

1732
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: See, you don't take a stab with that one. I'll

1733
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 2: be honest with you. I I have no idea what

1734
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 2: we're talking about right now. I mean, I am completely

1735
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: clueless of just about everything Chris has been saying for

1736
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: the last two minutes. I don't even know what we're

1737
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: talking about here. I know you got those you got

1738
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: too many, too many of those cupcakes here. I mean

1739
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 2: I was like, what, what where are we here? This

1740
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: was a little a little bit what we normally have.

1741
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: One more NFL future. Why don't you think about it?

1742
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: Because okay, I need to. I need to sit down

1743
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 2: with you and really understand what it is.

1744
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 9: Let's talk this over in the rate they got about

1745
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 9: twenty seconds hard, I have an NFL future on the

1746
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 9: other side.

1747
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 2: Okay, get this all right, we'll do that. Okay, I

1748
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 2: got to figure that out, and job Baul BARROSI will

1749
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 2: join it as well. It sounds intriguing, Chris, it really does.

1750
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: But I want to make sure I know what you're

1751
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: talking about before I make the prediction. This is Fox

1752
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, I enjoying the wrap up of our fourth

1753
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: of July weekend with our edition here of this Fox

1754
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Once again, we're in the Fox Sports right studios.

1755
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: John Balmossi is going to be joining us coming up

1756
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: here in about twenty minutes. Big day in baseball. We're

1757
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 2: going to get a lot covered there. But first we

1758
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 2: got to continue on with the Perfet picks. And during

1759
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: the break I was finally given a breakdown of what

1760
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: we were talking about before the updated and now I

1761
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 2: understand you, well, now I understand, so now I can

1762
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: make an educated guess. So again we'll talking about Sophie

1763
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: Cunningham of the Indiana Fever, and she made these controversial

1764
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: comments about expansion the WNBA to, among other places, the

1765
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 2: city of Detroit. And her argument was, why would you

1766
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: expand in a city that no one wants to play it?

1767
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: Why aren't you expanding to places like Miami and far

1768
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: more attractive cities.

1769
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 9: And obviously that doesn't mean it well in the c

1770
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 9: q WAA. You should be trying to find places. We're

1771
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 9: going these fans to show up there. And I mean, again,

1772
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 9: rich coming from Sophie Cunningham, who, if it wasn't for

1773
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 9: the presence of Kaitlyn Clark, would be playing for an

1774
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 9: audience of Cornstalks.

1775
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also when you talk about cities in Miami,

1776
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 3: there's a lot to do.

1777
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 2: Yep, there's a lot to do.

1778
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: People are not going to spend their money and waste

1779
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: their time going to a upstart, probably bad w NBA

1780
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 3: franchise game, especially this time of year where it's hot

1781
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 3: and it's sunny in the beaches, in the nightclubs, and

1782
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 3: there's a.

1783
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: Lot to do this tom of year in Miami. I

1784
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: thought it was smart not to put a w NBA

1785
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: team there just yet. Maybe in the future. But yeah,

1786
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry Nashville listened to sports and then we

1787
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: throw this up against a Tigers raised game.

1788
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just figured, rather than doing the line based

1789
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 9: on her you know, average points or something, who's going

1790
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 9: to have more, who's gonna have the higher number Sophie

1791
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 9: Cunningham points on the ninth or Tiger's raised combined.

1792
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: Guys on the ninth. Got it? Got it? Got it?

1793
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 2: I'm ready, You're ready for me? Took Okay, So I

1794
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: looked a little bit more of Sophie Cunningham, and you know,

1795
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: she's she's not much of a score at all. So

1796
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna say she's going to be the under,

1797
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: So I'm going under. Yeah, she's averaging five points a

1798
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: game if they can buy two. But yeah, but that

1799
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: game could be six to five, you know that can

1800
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 2: it could be although the way the Tigers are hitting

1801
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,879
Speaker 2: right well, they just tied up this game against the Guardians.

1802
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: By the way, there.

1803
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 9: Three of their position players all stars, all Stars starters,

1804
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 9: so you know.

1805
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, you see what Scooball did today

1806
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: school ball?

1807
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 4: What do you do?

1808
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 2: Scooball? He uh seven and he's three hits, no runs,

1809
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: eleven striker, ten striker. Yeah, this is a team I

1810
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: have dreamed for for at least ten years, is h

1811
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: He is ridiculous? At this point, they got a legitimate

1812
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: shot to win the questions. I was what they had pitching.

1813
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 3: I grew up watching like Golden Age Verlander, and Scooball

1814
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 3: is like up there with that. Anyway, since I said

1815
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 3: this was a theme, we might as well go ahead

1816
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 3: and cross one more Detroit thing off our list until

1817
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: so I can get all this Detroit out of my system.

1818
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 9: My Detroit Lions. Their win record for the season is

1819
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 9: being set up at ten and a half. We were

1820
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 9: remarking a little bit that it feels low, but we

1821
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 9: must remember A, it's probably not likely they'll win fifteen

1822
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 9: games again. Unfortunately. B they lost both their coordinators and

1823
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 9: their starting center Frank rag now retired. And I know

1824
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 9: that might not seem like much, but this is a

1825
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 9: team who's O line is the heart and soul of

1826
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 9: that team. I think a lot of people expect the

1827
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 9: Lions to kind of regress a little bit. Other teams

1828
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 9: the NFC North constantly looking sexy. Be it the Minnesota Vikings,

1829
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 9: Caleb Williams, the Chicago Bears, everyone's gassing up the Green

1830
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 9: Bay Packers. So ten and a half wins for the

1831
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 9: Detroit Lions, are we going over or under for the season, gentlemen,

1832
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 9: over still a.

1833
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 3: Very good football team. I know they lost their coordinators.

1834
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 3: Coordinators are important, but they don't play, and their toughness

1835
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 3: is what's going to carry them because they are tough

1836
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 3: football team, because the head guy is still there who's tough,

1837
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 3: and even the coordinators, they are still coaches there that.

1838
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: Were coaching under those coordinators.

1839
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 9: So you buy into Dan Campbell being this firepower because

1840
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 9: I know some people who think, like, without Ben Johnson,

1841
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 9: Dan Campbell is nothing.

1842
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 3: Well, guess what those people are just talking off of

1843
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 3: hypotheticals of what might be. I'm just going to go

1844
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 3: by the facts of what I've seen and what I've

1845
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 3: seen Dan Campbeill be able to do is take a

1846
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 3: franchise to heights that we have and not in my

1847
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 3: lifetime that I've ever seen this team that's good in

1848
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 3: my lifetime, So I'll.

1849
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 2: Stick with that.

1850
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 3: They still have a top ten quarterback, they still have

1851
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 3: a top ten receiver, they still have a top ten

1852
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 3: running back, they still have a top five defense, they

1853
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 3: still have a top ten pass rusher.

1854
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: They got The line is still take studs like this

1855
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: one of the best out there. Yeah, absolutely, they got studs.

1856
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 3: But they so dude, stop, they got studs on this

1857
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,799
Speaker 3: football team, all right, guys got the Bears.

1858
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, honestly the Bears.

1859
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying about the division, but I

1860
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 3: was one that said three teams are going to make

1861
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 3: the playoffs from this division, which.

1862
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 2: They did before last year started our preview show. But

1863
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: the Bears, give me a break. Okay, They're not giving

1864
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: away money here. When you're setting a line that looks

1865
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: obviously low, something is up. I'm taking the under. Sorry,

1866
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: Chris nothing personal. Why you take the underdog well because

1867
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: I think Jared Goff is a ticking time bomb. Really yeah,

1868
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: I think that. I don't want to wish any ill

1869
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 2: will on anybody. I love the Jared Goff story and

1870
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: what he's done with the Detroit Lions, but something tells

1871
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: me that this season is not going to go well

1872
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 2: for Jared Goff, whether he's underperforming or gets injured, something

1873
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: is going to be up with that quarterback position. So

1874
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to go under for the Lions ten and

1875
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: a half. I actually I actually agree with Steve, but

1876
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: not on the account of Jared Goff.

1877
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 3: Right, And that's what I was gonna say. It would

1878
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 3: have to be indury. He has too many weapons not

1879
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 3: to play well. You don't have that many weapons. You've

1880
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 3: never seen a team that has an MVP candidate, which

1881
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 3: he was last year map sidele quarterback with that many

1882
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 3: type of weapons not play well. Naming the quarterback in

1883
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: the history and in the last twenty five years that

1884
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 3: had that type of weaponry around him and was an

1885
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 3: MVP candidate and just for some reason couldn't get it done.

1886
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 9: That Fox Sports radio list we were talking about earlier

1887
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 9: also had Jared Goff very high, yet I saw no

1888
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 9: Number six when.

1889
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: I saw him tweet it.

1890
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: The first thing I thought about was the top ten

1891
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 3: conversation we had, and I actually saved it to my

1892
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 3: phone and then I retweeted it just in case I

1893
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 3: wanted to go back to it. Because there's a certain

1894
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 3: gentleman's name that's in that top ten and another certain

1895
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 3: gentleman's name that's not in that top ten that they

1896
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 3: put out there. We almost hit it dead on Dak's there.

1897
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels is hired, and I thought he that I

1898
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 3: think I would have him.

1899
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 9: I just wouldn't put a rookie quarterback going into his

1900
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 9: sophomore season in his past CJ Strops.

1901
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I will say this about the Lions though they

1902
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 2: have the one player that I'm most interested in. You know,

1903
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 2: every year he have Like, okay, I saw what he

1904
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: did as a rookie, like Jayden Daniels, right, like, what

1905
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 2: does he do next? Can I guess what Jamier exactly exactly?

1906
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 2: When I watched your Gibbs, I'm like, okay, I mean

1907
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: you make an argument. You know, obviously the usual suspect

1908
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Sakwon Barkley and Derrick Henry and everything, but when it

1909
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 2: comes to just running the football, this is the most

1910
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 2: exciting running back in the NFL. Not just running the football,

1911
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean he can literally every skirmish, skirmish, he won't

1912
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: have as many rushing yards on the top guys, one

1913
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: of the very few players. When he gets his hands

1914
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: on the ball, I paluk out, look out, everybody pays.

1915
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: He can just take off. You can go to the

1916
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 2: house every single time. I want to see how much

1917
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: more they use Gibbs. I'm pretty sure they're gonna put that.

1918
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 2: I love him at receiver.

1919
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 3: I love when they motion them out and they put

1920
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 3: him in the slaughtered the emotion the mount and put

1921
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 3: them out wide because you make the defense have to

1922
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 3: make a decision. Am I going to put a nickel

1923
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 3: corner to follow him? My outside.

1924
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Speaker 2: Show on Turf with Marshall falk remember his first year

1925
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 2: in Saint Louis, he had over a thousand yards both

1926
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 2: washing and receiving. Because again Mike Mart's new look. If

1927
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: I if, if I put him as a receiver, no

1928
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 2: one's gonna stay with this guy.

1929
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 3: He was at that at that time, Marshall Faulk was

1930
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: the best running back in football.

1931
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,839
Speaker 2: And then he was a tot wide receiver in football.

1932
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah forget and.

1933
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: Remember the year he goes thousand and thousand was only

1934
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 3: second time it was done. Roger Craig did it that

1935
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 3: first time, so it was only the second time in

1936
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 3: the history of the game that a thousand, thousand four

1937
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 3: running back had been done. And Marshall Falk also Peyton

1938
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 3: Manning credits Marshall fall growth.

1939
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 5: In the NFL.

1940
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 3: He goes, if I didn't have that guy standing, they said,

1941
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 3: Pey man I said, every times he would break the

1942
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 3: huddle and Marshall Funck would lean over to him and

1943
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 3: tell him what the audible two or tell him what

1944
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 3: to look at.

1945
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 2: Nobody telling you this. I got to know Marshall fuk

1946
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 2: way back in his San Diego State days, but when

1947
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 2: he came to the NFL, people will tell you you

1948
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 2: talk about a guy who's head is one hundred percent

1949
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 2: in the game and literally knows everything, everything that is Marshall,

1950
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 2: everything that was Marshall Fulk. He would do things like

1951
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: I think it was the Rams are playing that first

1952
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 2: year and they were trying to run the two minute

1953
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 2: drill and Kurt Warner made a pass to one of

1954
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 2: the receivers might have been Ozley Keenan. He goes down

1955
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 2: and he's hurt, and Marshall Falk runs over and grabs

1956
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: him to lift him up, just to stand there because

1957
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 2: we're running the clock. Just stand there because we're gonna

1958
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: spike the ball. And he smart smart, he's thinking like, okay, dude,

1959
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 2: we can't. You can't be on the ground, lifts them up,

1960
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 2: puts them down, stand there and they won that. And

1961
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 2: by the way, they won that game.

1962
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:31,879
Speaker 3: That's almost close to Mike Shanahan Super Bowl Broncos Packers

1963
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 3: Terrell Davis can't see, can't see. He's going he's got

1964
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 3: the concussions, he's got the migraines. And he goes, Coach,

1965
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 3: I can't see. He goes, well, it doesn't matter. We're

1966
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 3: not giving you the ball, but if we don't put

1967
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 3: you in, they'll never think we're gonna run it. He goes,

1968
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 3: don't worry, you're not getting the ball. But that's that's

1969
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 3: a quick thought process from a coach. That's how fast

1970
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 3: his brain is working in the most important critical point

1971
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 3: in game of your coaching life.

1972
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,600
Speaker 2: At that moment, your brain is fast enough to.

1973
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 3: Say, because most of something I'd say it is less experience,

1974
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 3: because it would be like, oh, okay, back up, no

1975
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 3: he goes, don't worry, don't worry, no, come here, come back,

1976
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 3: come here, doesn't matter, come and not give me the ball.

1977
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 3: But if I don't put you in right now, they're

1978
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 3: never believe we're going to run the football. Ye, Pete

1979
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 3: Carroll's big mistake, National Championship.

1980
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Reggie Bush on the sideline and fourth and two,

1981
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 2: fourth and so then off tackle, off tackle. The whole

1982
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 2: stadium knew what was coming. Yeah, And speaking one more,

1983
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 2: one more name to keep an eye for the Lions.

1984
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 2: This might be the year.

1985
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 9: And I know from watching them and you know the

1986
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 9: new offensive coordinator system, everything, Jamison Williams, James absolute. We

1987
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 9: saw the flashes last year and I feel like that's

1988
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 9: a deep.

1989
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 2: Threat to life. Said guys ten and a half something

1990
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 2: screwy with that line, really screwed.

1991
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 9: It's just the public perception at this point. And also

1992
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 9: I will say this, like listening to the sports book guys,

1993
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 9: the bookmakers that I know, they always have to kind

1994
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 9: of like they know Michigan pe bet on their own

1995
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 9: teams very hard. So I think they kind of need

1996
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 9: those numbers to come.

1997
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 2: In for them all right. Coming up on the other side,

1998
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 2: we're going to get back into a little baseball right now,

1999
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 2: getting close to the All Star break around Major League Baseball,

2000
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 2: our insider John Paul Morosi will join us. This is

2001
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Harvin and Husky here on this Sunday.

2002
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 2: We don't have a lot of Sundays left till we

2003
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 2: get to the NFL season, which we are absolutely looking

2004
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: forward to once again in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now,

2005
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 2: let's talk some baseball because this is this is a

2006
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 2: time to highlight Major League Baseball and our Fox Sports

2007
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Speaker 2: Radio MLB analyst, the legendary the great John Paul Morosi,

2008
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,759
Speaker 2: is joining us right now. JP. First of all, Husher

2009
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 2: fourth of July holiday weekend, going doing great.

2010
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Speaker 5: Gentlemen, Happy for the July weekend to both of you

2011
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,560
Speaker 5: and all of our listeners here. I'm here in the

2012
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 5: great state of Michigan accent. Asked yesterday to play in

2013
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 5: the alumni baseball game at my high school, so the

2014
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 5: first time I had played on that field in twenty

2015
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 5: five years. I had a great time yesterday. But guys,

2016
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 5: let's say it's about four to twenty Eastern time. I

2017
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 5: basically just finally was able to get out of bed

2018
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 5: and walk and walk across to pick up the phone.

2019
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 5: So paying I'm paying the toll today. My body said, John,

2020
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 5: you're forty three. You haven't been doing stuff like this

2021
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 5: in a while.

2022
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 4: And so I got a nice.

2023
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 5: Little reminder about starn in cleets for a couple hours.

2024
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 5: But just had a great time. I got to swim

2025
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 5: the back a little bit. And it's really cool to

2026
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 5: be able to celebrate Garber High School baseball in the

2027
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 5: great city of Essexville, Michigan.

2028
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: Well, right now, we're watching your Tigers just score six

2029
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 2: runs in the top of the tenth inning right now

2030
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 2: as they are ready to blow out the Guardians up

2031
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 2: seven to one in this game. But I was at

2032
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 2: the Dodgers game on Wednesday, which of course is the

2033
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 2: night at the Clayton kershe got the three thousandth career strikeout.

2034
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable atmosphere Dodgers Stamman, look at Dodgers White

2035
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 2: Sox and you've got a full sellout middle of the week.

2036
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's absolutely crazy. Well, let's put in perspective,

2037
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:18,799
Speaker 2: three thousand career strikeouts because with the changing, the evolution

2038
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 2: of the starting pitcher in Major League Baseball, I think

2039
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 2: for the worst. I mean, is Kershaw going to be

2040
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 2: the last pitcher ever to cross that threshold of three

2041
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 2: thousand career strikeouts?

2042
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 5: Ever?

2043
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 4: Is a It's a big word.

2044
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,560
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm going to always default to say that

2045
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 5: someone at some point in the future will find his

2046
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 5: way to get to it.

2047
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 4: Is it?

2048
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 5: Is it Paul Schimes, he certainly you'd have to say,

2049
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 5: has a shot at it. But the thing is, you've

2050
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 5: got to be two things, actually we'll say three things.

2051
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 5: You got to get to the big leagues at a

2052
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 5: really young age, you've got to be great, and you've

2053
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 5: got to be healthy. And those three things are really

2054
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 5: tough to do. And I think the fact that we

2055
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 5: don't really have an obvious candidate who's above two thousand

2056
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 5: strikeouts and clearly on the way there just tells us

2057
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 5: the era that we're in right now. And there are

2058
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 5: fewer pitchers in the history of the game who have

2059
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 5: three thousand strikeouts than there are hitters with three thousand hits.

2060
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 2: Hey, it's by the way, that is thirty three to twenty.

2061
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 2: It's not even close. I mean, there's ninety three hitters

2062
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 2: with three thousand hits.

2063
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not even close. So if you're if you

2064
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 5: are so, a two hundred strikeout year is a dominant year,

2065
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 5: that is, that is dominance over the full scope of

2066
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 5: the season. Okay, you have to do that for fifteen years, right,

2067
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 5: just mats to get to.

2068
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 2: Three thousands, and you're going to have to do that

2069
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 2: with reduced innings, right, I mean, I mean, forget, forget

2070
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 2: three thousand strike Do you ever think a picture is

2071
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 2: ever they have over three thousand innings pitched in a career.

2072
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 5: Well, that and that to me is maybe the even

2073
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 5: more elusive elusive number, right, I mean, we think about

2074
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:12,719
Speaker 5: if you're striking out.

2075
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 4: More than one batter per inning. Let's let's put it

2076
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 4: this way.

2077
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 5: There are way more starters who are striking out one

2078
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 5: more batter more than one batter p inting than are

2079
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 5: clearly on the path to being a perennial two hundred

2080
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 5: inning a year pitcher. That's just that's just the mathematics

2081
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 5: of things. Because it's now a very small minority of

2082
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 5: pitchers were able to get above the two hundred inning

2083
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 5: mark for a season and not just do it, but

2084
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 5: then do it consistently and do it while staying healthy.

2085
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,560
Speaker 5: San Diiel contin did it and had one of the

2086
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 5: highest innings counts we had seen in recent years.

2087
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 4: Then what happened.

2088
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 5: He got hurt and he missed the year, and now

2089
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 5: he's just kind of coming back and getting to be himself.

2090
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 5: So that's where, yeah, I say it's again the math

2091
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 5: tells you it's two hundred times fifteen, but really it's

2092
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 5: like you have to be at that level for really

2093
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 5: more like seventeen or eighteen years, because you have to

2094
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 5: realize you're probably going to miss a year plus at

2095
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 5: some point to get Tommy John. Even the guys that

2096
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 5: are very durable basically get Tommy John at some point

2097
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 5: in their journey and then there's no promise that you're

2098
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 5: going to come back and be dominant. So it's just

2099
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 5: it is a different, different time.

2100
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 4: And we've talked about this before.

2101
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 5: One of my favorite things that I've been able to

2102
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,759
Speaker 5: do and working on our Road to Cooper's Down podcast

2103
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 5: is interviewing the Hall of Famers about what it was

2104
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 5: like during their era. And I love making the point

2105
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 5: that Ferguson Jenkins five times through three hundred plus innings, yep.

2106
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 5: So the human body can do it. We can do

2107
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 5: this people, but it's just hard to do it when

2108
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 5: you're telling yourself that you've got to try to throw

2109
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 5: Max Effort or Max Vilo in the nastiest stuff ever

2110
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 5: on every pitch. That's the problem, and that's where the

2111
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 5: system breaks.

2112
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,560
Speaker 3: J They were Kershaw here because some numbers that I

2113
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 3: found that I found very interesting, because the question is

2114
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 3: how good is this guy? Right, he's the twentieth now

2115
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 3: with three thousand strikeouts, but he is only one of

2116
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 3: five guys in that top twenty that did it under

2117
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 3: twenty years. Everyone else needed twenty plus years to do it.

2118
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 3: You have c season bat there in nineteen Paedroid eighteen.

2119
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 3: My guy Max Schurzer you mentioned Fergie Jenkins right now

2120
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 3: did it in nineteen and Kershaw's in his eighteen season.

2121
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 3: Kershaw's also done it in fewer innings than any of

2122
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 3: those guys in two thousand, seven hundred and eighty seven innings.

2123
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 3: Is he up there with those names that we see

2124
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 3: ahead of him when you talk about the names that

2125
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 3: I've already mentioned, But then you got guys kind of

2126
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 3: behind him, like a Mike weusen Her, like a like

2127
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 3: a Glavin a Cy Young that's don't have the three

2128
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 3: thousand strikeouts that Kershaw has. But some people might look

2129
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 3: at some of those pictures and say, oh, well, they

2130
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 3: were better pictures than Glen Where do you Has he

2131
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 3: a top ten guy for you, top twenty guy, top

2132
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 3: How good was Kershaw?

2133
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 5: It's a very fair question. I'll say this. When you

2134
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 5: look at his adjusted ERA plus so basically what era

2135
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 5: plus means, it's a really good statistic to look at

2136
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 5: on Baseball Reference that basically indexes his era in comparison

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Speaker 5: to the other to other piers historically because it adjusts

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Speaker 5: for the various league and ballpark factors of the time

2139
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:25,640
Speaker 5: in which he pitched. Okay, so the most similar the

2140
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 5: guy that he really tracks carefully with, the most similar

2141
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 5: pitcher for him through his career and through this age

2142
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,959
Speaker 5: in the history of the game is Pedro Martinez. Kershaw

2143
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 5: is basically Pedro the Pedro of this this year they

2144
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 5: would have overlapped. Briefly, there was actually one playoff series.

2145
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 5: How about this. You go back and look at the

2146
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 5: two thousand and nine NLCS Philly's Dodgers. Both Kershaw and

2147
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 5: Pedro started games in that series, so that their careers

2148
01:39:56,360 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 5: overlapped for this brief moment in time. But basically, if

2149
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 5: you look at Baseball Reference, Pedro Martinez his numbers, they're

2150
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 5: almost exactly the same as Kershaw. So Pedro his era

2151
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 5: plus for his career is one fifty four, for Kershaw

2152
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 5: it's one fifty five, meaning Kershaw was fifty five percent

2153
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 5: better than the average pitcher during the time that he pitched,

2154
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 5: Pedro fifty four percent better. So and again we compare

2155
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 5: it for a long time. And maybe it's because Kershaw

2156
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 5: is not going to get three hundred wins and Pedro's

2157
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 5: not going to get three hundred, and Kofax didn't get

2158
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:37,600
Speaker 5: three hundred. It's that it's that extremely great peak and

2159
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 5: without maybe getting three hundred wins, but certainly in the

2160
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 5: case of Pedro and Kershaw getting more than two hundred. Now,

2161
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 5: I don't know that. I guess I wouldn't say that

2162
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 5: Kershaw was ever quite as at the absolute peak peak peak,

2163
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 5: as dominant as Kofax was for his time. But I

2164
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 5: think that the overall numbers say that he is certainly

2165
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 5: in the inner circle. And I would say comfortably when

2166
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 5: you look at especially the offense and the bats, the

2167
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 5: kersherie of the face he has been I believe, one

2168
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 5: of the ten greatest pitchers in the.

2169
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 4: History of the game.

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01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 3: And just to piggyback on that too, the comparison between

2171
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 3: Pedro and Kershaw. Pedro Martinez is one of my favorite athlete,

2172
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 3: not just baseball players, He's one of my favorite athletes

2173
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 3: of all time.

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01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 2: I think he's great on TV also too. I love him.

2175
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 3: But as I mentioned before, Kershaw innings, it took twenty

2176
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 3: eight eighty seven innings for Pedro twenty eight twenty seven

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01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 3: how much closer?

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01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: How much closer? And I did, who can you get

2179
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,719
Speaker 2: between them? And also keep it yeah, well, and also

2180
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: keep in mind, you know, since nineteen thirteen, Lowe's career

2181
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,799
Speaker 2: era with a pitcher of the least two thousand innings

2182
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 2: pitch is Clayton Kershaw. So I mean wow, So that

2183
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 2: is that? That standineteen thirteen, nineteen thirteen, So Lowe's career

2184
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: area of the least two thousand innings pitch Kershaw's number one,

2185
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 2: two point five to one. All right, the show Heyo

2186
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 2: Tawani situation. So Dodger fans can get a little frustrated

2187
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: here one inning pitch, one inning pitch, two INNI pitch

2188
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: yesterday and the second and he strikes out the side.

2189
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 2: They take him out of the game with a two

2190
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 2: nothing lead. They bring in Robleskin, the lead is gone

2191
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: uh and they end up losing again to their hated

2192
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 2: rival Astros. Are you in favor of the way the

2193
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Dodgers are treating this comeback on the mound for show? Hey, O'tani?

2194
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 2: Or are we gotten to the point of ridiculousness? Where

2195
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 2: at least come on three innings? Four innings? What's the harm?

2196
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 5: Here's here's what I have to say about it with

2197
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 5: Otani and the Dodge. And I get it that the

2198
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 5: fans want to see him pitch more. He's gone one, one,

2199
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 5: two two total total six innings pitch so far this season.

2200
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 4: They've been six of.

2201
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 5: The most closely washed innings in the history of the

2202
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 5: game because of who it is. But I get it

2203
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 5: that he is now basically over four starts accumulated what

2204
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 5: you would normally consider to be a starts worth of pitching.

2205
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 5: This is what I have to say about Otani, and

2206
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:03,759
Speaker 5: I know it's not going to be a popular answer.

2207
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 5: This situation is really only to be judged at the

2208
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 5: end of the year, when you can tell me how

2209
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 5: many innings can he pitch in October? And how good

2210
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 5: is he once he gets there? This team, while not perfect,

2211
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 5: is first place now relatively comfortably. They're going to be

2212
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. The entire idea is, I guess this.

2213
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 5: The Dodgers are supposed to be good enough that they

2214
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 5: don't really need Kershaw or they don't really need Otani

2215
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 5: to pitch them into the postseason. But he is going

2216
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 5: to be their difference maker once he gets that, once

2217
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 5: they get there, once he gets there. So that's where

2218
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 5: he is the guy that's going to avoid they hope

2219
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 5: what happened to be those opener specials that we saw

2220
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 5: them have against the Mets and the Padres where they

2221
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 5: almost lost the whole whole thing. There, to avoid those

2222
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 5: really short starts for the Dodgers in the postseason, that's

2223
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 5: what he's here to do. So if if you're gonna

2224
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 5: tell me if he's gonna throw six innings in the

2225
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 5: NLCS against the Phillies, that I'm gonna tell you, then

2226
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 5: this whole plan has worked. But if if we're still

2227
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 5: if we're getting to October and he's still stuck on

2228
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 5: three to four innings, which I don't think is gonna

2229
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 5: be the case. I think that by the way they'll

2230
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 5: be built up. This is basically, if you think about it,

2231
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 5: this is the progression that you would have normally seen

2232
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 5: on a minor league rehab situation. But he can't do

2233
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 5: that because they need him to hit, so he can't leave.

2234
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 5: So these innings would be happening if he were if

2235
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 5: he was a normal mortal person. This isn't be happening

2236
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 5: at Oklahoma City or in Great Lakes, Michigan something like that. Instead,

2237
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 5: he's got to do it while concurrently being there the agent.

2238
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 5: So for all those reasons, I'm totally fine with it,

2239
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 5: provided the progression remains on track for him to be

2240
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Speaker 5: an impactful starter over six innings or more in the postseason.

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01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 2: All right, very good. By the way, school ball is

2242
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 2: having a historic here. Could be back to back, back

2243
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 2: to back triple crowns. Unreal, unreal. Cofax did it, Lefty

2244
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 2: Grove did it. I think there was one other. Oh

2245
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 2: he was Grover Creed and Alexander only three pitchers to

2246
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 2: have back to back triple crowns leading the league and

2247
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 2: wins strikeouts in the era. All right, he is.

2248
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 5: Next level, And I tell you what people in Michigan.

2249
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 4: Obviously I live here.

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Speaker 5: They're just I was at that game, misteryd Hey, school's

2251
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 5: pitching tomorrow, and people and people just it is a

2252
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,680
Speaker 5: conversation topic now every time he's on the mound, it

2253
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 5: is it is something to behold.

2254
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 2: We needed something that is show hand, Aaron Judge.

2255
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,560
Speaker 3: Well, remember I asked you last week, where's the stories

2256
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 3: that are pulling Honestly, where's the guys that are pulling

2257
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 3: us in this season?

2258
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 4: This is it.

2259
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 5: We got some great stories. How about cal Rally? As

2260
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 5: they here we go. Okay, from now we're gonna be

2261
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 5: talking will be all All Star Game focused. A week

2262
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 5: from now, you'll have cal Rally grew up in the

2263
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 5: Carolina at the All Star Game in Atlanta. His dad's

2264
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 5: going to be throwing his home run derby pitches. That,

2265
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 5: my friend, is a great baseball story.

2266
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 2: And when he breaks eron Judges American League recor when

2267
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,719
Speaker 2: he hits a sixty third home run, you'll be talking

2268
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 2: plenty about cal Rawley. All right, great stuff, JP, Thanks

2269
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 2: so much. We'll check in with you again next week.

2270
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,679
Speaker 2: Thank you have a great week. God bless JP, my friends,

2271
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: God bless you.

2272
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:20,480
Speaker 5: Always love our conversations.

2273
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 4: Thanks so much.

2274
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,679
Speaker 2: There is the great John Paul Morosi. All right, now

2275
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending as she gets ready

2276
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 2: for her own show coming up at the top of

2277
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: the hour.

2278
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 7: Here we carry roads, that's right, and you know who's

2279
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 7: going to be anchoring for my show is.

2280
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 4: Here? Is here?

2281
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 2: So sometimes I hear Bree late night.

2282
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 8: Yes, she's been producing, and she filled in a lot

2283
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 8: this week because uh Coop was out Ben Maller's producer.

2284
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 7: So she has been She has had a bunch.

2285
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 8: Of overnights all week and she's here being a good

2286
01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 8: friend and gonna anchor for my show.

2287
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot of late night TV recently.

2288
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 2: And as soon as I, you know, finished, I turned

2289
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Of course, all of a sudden

2290
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 2: I hear a very.

2291
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, like the cheese we're ready over.

2292
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 2: Which is delicious. And I'm late to the party about

2293
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: Bree cheese, bre cheese.

2294
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 3: I went to a winery and had the chool and

2295
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 3: I was like, what is this creaminess?

2296
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:25,600
Speaker 2: What is this going on right now?

2297
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 3: What is this creaminess of this cracker with the grape

2298
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 3: and the wine and this cheese, Like, oh, that's Brie.

2299
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, where's she at? And I want to

2300
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 2: know how does she make this cheese?

2301
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 7: It's not that but breed like the cheese. That is

2302
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 7: how she likes to say it. All right, guys, let's

2303
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 7: check in on a baseball.

2304
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 8: The Subway series between the Yankees and the Mets did

2305
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 8: get interesting for a second.

2306
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 7: Yankees were AUP five zero.

2307
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 8: Mets cut the deficit to one, but the Yankees added

2308
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 8: another run.

2309
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 7: So they're up six. Ford is the bottom of the

2310
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 7: ninth inning. Yankees tried to trying to avoid the sweep.

2311
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 1: Here.

2312
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 8: The Tigers, well, they scored a lot in the tenth Innian. Yeah,

2313
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 8: they defeated the Guardians seven to two. Trek scoobls seven innings,

2314
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 8: pitch three hits, ten strikeouts, and that game is officially over.

2315
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 8: The Red Sox in the Nationals have been playing for

2316
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 8: what feels like forever, and the Red Socks are up

2317
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 8: six to three bottom of the ninth inning, about to start.

2318
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 8: The Rays up on the Twins four to two bottom.

2319
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 7: Of the eighth inning.

2320
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 8: White Sox edging the Rockies in Colorado three to two

2321
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 8: top of the fifth inning, And we move on to

2322
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 8: the games that have already wrapped up like.

2323
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,600
Speaker 7: The Orioles, who did complete a three game sweep of

2324
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 7: the Braves.

2325
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 8: Two to one was the final score, Bryson's stop with

2326
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 8: the go ahead home run, and the Phillies held on

2327
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 8: to defeat the Reds three to one. The Blue Jays

2328
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 8: etched the Angels three to two, and the Brewers defeated

2329
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 8: the Marlins.

2330
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 7: Three to one.

2331
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 8: And after a rocky start for Carlos outcraz at Wimbledon,

2332
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 8: he got it together. He's advancing to the quarterfinals, winning

2333
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 8: his fourth round match in four sets. Five seed and

2334
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 8: American Taylor Fritz is also headed to the quarterfinals. And

2335
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 8: do not forget that the Konkokom Gold Cup Final USA

2336
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 8: takes on mex Ago seven Eastern.

2337
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 7: Fox t the beach is very excited.

2338
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 2: You you say him win it.

2339
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 3: That's why when we first talked about this, when Chris

2340
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 3: and I had the over ended, we're gonna three or

2341
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 3: more points for the for the group.

2342
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,799
Speaker 2: I said, dude, they're winning the group. I like this regime.

2343
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: We're winning this whole damn thing. Hold on, I need

2344
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 2: to hear Mon say con cook, con cook, I say

2345
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 2: conca ca. You know, I'm like, yeah, conkak cap no,

2346
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 2: and I have to do television again tonight, so I'm

2347
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 2: gonna be talking about this obviously. So if I throw

2348
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: it out there, conk cook cat con cookops cutap gold Cup,

2349
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 8: And also that trade of Kevin Durant going to Houston,

2352
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 8: it's officially processed seventeen.

2353
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 7: All of that is good. Kevin Durant gave a goodbye.

2354
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 8: To Phoenix and his Twitter account saying thank you and

2355
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 8: that he's excited for Houston.

2356
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 2: So that's so overdone because the Phoenix thing was terrible.

2357
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 2: It was we had no fun there.

2358
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 7: But what is he supposed to say?

2359
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 2: Nothing?

2360
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 7: You think nothing?

2361
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:04,600
Speaker 2: Nothing but that?

2362
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 7: I mean, he's so Clere's the thing she Kevin Durant

2363
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 7: is so active in being a troll that he can't

2364
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 7: not say it.

2365
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 2: No, he can't help. Honestly, have you ever seen an

2366
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 2: athlete of that superstar level be more effected by social

2367
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 2: media than Kevin Durant Lebron James Well.

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01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 7: Because I don't think Kevin Durant's affected. Kevin Durant's funny.

2369
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 2: Yes, he is so bent out of shape. I think

2370
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 2: he did.

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01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 7: And now now his responses are like bro I'm in

2372
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 7: my mansion.

2373
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm chilling younger Durant was, but that's a piece from

2374
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 3: being from that area. I know, man, there's a certain

2375
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 3: pettiness that comes with us. So like, if you want

2376
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 3: to just keep pushing this, like okay, I'll just troll

2377
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 3: with you now. I mean, my line is, you want.

2378
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 2: Because you want some attention. So I'm gonna get the

2379
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 2: people that are trolling. They're trying to get the attention.

2380
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 2: You're giving it to them.

2381
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 7: You know, I don't have I don't have the pay

2382
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 7: to do with it, but it seems like Katie does.

2383
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 7: And if that's what he likes to do, then by

2384
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 7: all means, go ahead. Stroll back.

2385
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: By the way, when Twitter first started and we were

2386
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 2: first getting on Twitter, right and you know, I didn't

2387
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 2: really understand how how this thing works. And I got

2388
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,480
Speaker 2: some guy lighting me up about something, I mean, completely

2389
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 2: took out of context something I said on a radio show,

2390
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,640
Speaker 2: and I started to engage with this guy, and it

2391
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:26,560
Speaker 2: was it was a rabbit hole, like there was no

2392
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 2: you know, and I was like, what am I doing? Someday?

2393
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 3: Most sometimes you just you ain't got nothing else to do.

2394
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 3: Next to my line, my line is you want some attention,

2395
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 3: no problem, I'll give you something, because at the end

2396
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 3: of the day I'm still gonna go in the same

2397
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 3: studio and still do what I do.

2398
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: I just yes. So I call it hate listening.

2399
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 3: People tune in sometimes so they can pick apart what

2400
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna say. Are they watched so they can pick

2401
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 3: apart what you're going It's called hate watching. Me personally,

2402
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 3: I don't give time to nothing I don't like. If

2403
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 3: I don't like a show, I don't watch it. And

2404
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 3: that's what's weird to me. So if you want to

2405
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 3: get you want some attention, All right, bro, here we go.

2406
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 2: Let's go on the rare occasions and that I will

2407
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 2: that someone will say something on social media that will

2408
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,560
Speaker 2: least spark a response for me if I do and

2409
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 2: I try to be civil, you know. Oh and then

2410
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:21,679
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time they come back saying,

2411
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 2: oh man, you know, I really enjoy listening to you.

2412
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 2: You know, maybe you were a little out of turn today,

2413
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,759
Speaker 2: but you know I still listen. I'm like that, Steve.

2414
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 3: It's always when you say something about a team they

2415
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 3: like or player, they're like, don't agree with everything else

2416
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 3: you say.

2417
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 2: But if you attack their team or you attack their guy.

2418
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 2: How did that guy get a show? What is he doing?

2419
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 2: I'll day, We're the same as everybody out there. We

2420
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 2: all have opinions. Right once came one of the Fox

2421
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. Don't forget after the show. The podcast

2422
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:55,240
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2423
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 2: you got to check out the podcast. Just search Fox

2424
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, follow and review

2425
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2426
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 2: gets podcasts to see today's show posted right after we

2427
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: get off the air. All right, coming up on the

2428
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,559
Speaker 2: other side, we're gonna get ready for another big week,

2429
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,639
Speaker 2: yeah in the world of sports, and yes we will

2430
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 2: get a prediction from a man that knows on this

2431
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: Konkokoff final between USA and me. I'm so excited. I'm

2432
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 2: gonna go home and they left over. This is Fox

2433
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Harbin and Husky here in the Fox Sports

2434
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 2: Radio studios. Fox Sports Sunday is actually the name of

2435
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 2: this show. I want to thank all the people that

2436
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 2: make this show what it is every single week. Mon

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01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 2: See getting ready for her show right now, coming up

2438
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 2: with Carrie Rose, always doing a brilliant job, Chris after

2439
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 2: a little explanation on one of his perfet picks outstanding today, Chris,

2440
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 2: get it down to Steve to try to see I

2441
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 2: like the fact and this is something I always appreciate

2442
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 2: about Chris. He thinks outside the box. We like to

2443
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 2: think outside the box on this program. But there's sometimes

2444
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 2: you know, you sometimes you think about something it really

2445
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 2: sounds good and then you sort of put it down

2446
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 2: on paper and maybe it's not quite as good as

2447
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 2: you thought it was going to be. Maybe a little.

2448
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:24,600
Speaker 2: But you know, once you explained it to me, I

2449
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 2: figured that, yeah, it just it took a second. We

2450
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 2: won't do anything like that again. We'll get you. I

2451
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 2: don't know everything. I don't know everything about the try

2452
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 2: to keep perfect picks like very relevant to going on

2453
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 2: and NBA is relevant. But that conversation wasn't something you knew.

2454
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 2: And also it is a very slow period of the

2455
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 2: calendar right now. You know that NBA is a relevant

2456
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 2: common noise. Well, I'll explain in a second, and there

2457
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 2: are I know what you're saying, but I'll explain it.

2458
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 2: I want to acknowledge Shade because he also when you

2459
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,120
Speaker 2: when you have this time of the year, well, I

2460
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 2: said nothing. You know, well, he's trying to figure out

2461
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 2: again what he is. Notoriously a slow time of the

2462
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 2: sports year. We're still three weeks away from preseason NFL

2463
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:14,040
Speaker 2: and then we're fully engaged in football, right, you know,

2464
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 2: we got the All Star Game in baseball, but you know,

2465
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 2: come on, I mean, we'll have the trade deadline. The

2466
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 2: good thing is the NBA free agency. But guys, the

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01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 2: w NBA from a gambling standpoint, there's what point I

2468
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 2: made with Jeff Schwartz the last couple of weeks. You know,

2469
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 2: if you listen to our weekend bet MGM shows, and

2470
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:41,839
Speaker 2: I listened to a guy like Bill Crack, Coocker Murgers,

2471
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 2: you know, a long time the Crack. He's sitting there

2472
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 2: and he's breaking down w NBA. And I'm saying, this guy,

2473
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm guarantee you never talk one second of w NBA.

2474
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 2: But here's the thing Jeff Schwartz said, because I asked

2475
01:55:56,280 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 2: him about, you know, WNBA gambling versus NBA gambling, goes Steve,

2476
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 2: here's the difference. You know, the guys laying down the

2477
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 2: odds in the NBA don't miss you know, they're they're

2478
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 2: all over that stuff. They haven't caught up with the

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01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 2: w NBA. You want to make some money, listen to

2480
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 2: our plays in the w NBA. You don't make money

2481
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 2: because they haven't caught up to that yet. On the props,

2482
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 2: it's the best place. I'm telling you, the WNBA. All

2483
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 2: of college and my friends, I mean some under are

2484
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: rolling right now. See that love the liberty. All right,

2485
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 2: let's break it down then, cook con cook coff conka

2486
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 2: CoV Final between US and Mexico. Mexico uh.

2487
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 3: US favored in this match, as we should be riding

2488
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 3: a five match winning streak right now. And Chris and

2489
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 3: I both big soccer guys. I just like the regime.

2490
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 3: I like the I like the aggressiveness that they play with.

2491
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 3: I like that they don't hold back.

2492
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 2: They are an attacking style team now and they have

2493
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 2: not been that for over a decade. Us A alwy

2494
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 2: supposed to play conservative.

2495
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 8: No go go, go, go go go.

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01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 2: You got kids like Riches and Tillman. Tillman.

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01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, guys, Tillman and Luna there their

2498
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 3: next their USA's next stars. Pay attention to those names.

2499
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 3: These guys are good now. They may not be in

2500
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 3: BAPE and they may not be l mean lamal from

2501
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 3: a Spay. I get that, but these guys are good.

2502
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 3: And Luna's riding a back to back match go streak

2503
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, and Tilman's take, he's missed about four

2504
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 3: He's got three goals, already, got three goals in five

2505
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 3: and sis he's missed like four goals just I mean

2506
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 3: by a half of Okay, let me, he's going to

2507
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 3: be target when he takes his shot.

2508
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 2: Okay, next year World Cup comes to the SAH, the

2509
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 2: whole country. Obviously we get an automatic slot. It sounds

2510
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 2: like we've earned that slot every time we get to

2511
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 2: the World Cup. And I'm like everybody else, the World

2512
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 2: Cup is the biggest event, biggest every four years, no

2513
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 2: question about that. The world is watching. I got fully engaged.

2514
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 2: The first time I really got engaged in World Cup

2515
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety four. I mean I'd followed it before that,

2516
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 2: but in ninety last hours here in America exactly, and uh,

2517
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 2: I was married and newly married, and my father in

2518
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 2: law from Mexico was a huge, huge soccer fan and

2519
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 2: really got me connected. That year was a nice run

2520
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 2: for the US, and that uh got Colombia. Yeah, Colombia

2521
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 2: was got to the corse Gott in the quarters. I

2522
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 2: believe it was got to the quarters that year against Brazil.

2523
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes to Brazil, not so loster Brazil. Uh so what

2524
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 2: you're you're talking because you know we have the embarrassment

2525
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 2: of missing the World Cup, not even qualifying. What do

2526
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 2: you expect next year for the United States and the

2527
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 2: World Cup?

2528
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 3: I mean, if I wanted to go out on the limit,

2529
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 3: just be who I am. I said, we'll get out

2530
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 3: of our group. But of course I got to see

2531
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 3: who's going to be in the group. I had to

2532
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 3: put the group together. But I'm just looking at this

2533
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 3: squad and this this team that we're putting on the pitch. Now,

2534
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 3: they're younger, they're faster, they're more aggressive.

2535
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 2: Soccer. To me, football is an aggressive game. You gotta go.

2536
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 2: You gotta push, You can't sit back. You gotta go.

2537
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 3: You gotta move the ball, gotta run your set pieces,

2538
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 3: you gotta be good on corner, and you gotta have

2539
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 3: great timing and defensive blocks, not just from your netminder.

2540
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 2: You need the back guys to slide in and make a.

2541
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 3: Tack without getting a penalty in the penalty box and

2542
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 3: giving up a kick like we did. I think it

2543
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 3: was against Haiti or well just when we just took

2544
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 3: a bad penalty. You can't take those penalties in US.

2545
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 3: Ain been doing that so much and you lose those

2546
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 3: matches when you don't play that way. You get some

2547
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 3: young speed, you get the ball on the outside, move

2548
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 3: it to the inside, then get your wings and get your.

2549
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 2: Forwards flying to your striker, flying and going.

2550
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 3: Forward like they've been doing in this entire for wait

2551
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 3: a minute of every USA matching this Gold Cup, every

2552
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 3: single man, I haven't missed nothing.

2553
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 2: That's how they're playing out. That's how we're gonna bet

2554
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 2: Mexico to to one today.

2555
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 3: Gold Cup comes back to the United States of America

2556
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 3: for America today.

2557
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 2: All right, here's what frustrates me. When you're talking about

2558
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 2: a sports biggest event, which the World Cup is. Why

2559
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 2: are some of these matches actually decided by penalty kicks.

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01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 2: I don't I don't get that. I mean it, just

2561
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Speaker 2: especially when he Old clouds, I don't care if you

2562
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Speaker 2: play for three I'm I'm with you. I'm with you.

2563
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Speaker 2: I don't care. It should not come down to peeks

2564
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 2: in a World Cup match. Look at they don't, don't

2565
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Speaker 2: they change the overtime rule in the NHL. Of course

2566
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Speaker 2: they do. You play until somebody scores. What's more exciting

2567
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Speaker 2: than that? Nothing? Nothing to me. Next these goal wins

2568
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Speaker 2: as always, That's why I will play a hockey time

2569
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Speaker 2: in playoff, Oh my god, anything in sports, Yes, next

2570
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Speaker 2: goal wins. Okay, if you want to say, let's go

2571
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Speaker 2: to the one Monzi carrier getting ready to go, don't

2572
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Speaker 2: go anywhere you want to come here on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio