WEBVTT - Pigeons & Pink Slips 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:09.440 Hi, Chris, Hey, Chris, how's it going. Let me tell 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.480 you some pigeons. 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.720 I've been there. I felt like I was in New York. Yeah, 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:16.240 I'm out there fighting pigeons. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:17.799 What's going on? 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.960 I get back. I went for a walk this morning. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.200 I had plenty of time to get ready for the recordings. 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.279 I sat on the couch. I'm going through the show 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.240 notes that uh uh, Maddie said to me, going to 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.120 make sure I know what's going on. And I hate 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.120 this noise in the background. I hear like a little 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.000 like a little rustle. I'm like, I get up. I 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.199 walk around the kitchen island and there's a pigeon on 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:42.200 the floor, just chilling. Kitchen pigeon, a live pigeon inside 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.320 in the kitchen, right by the washing machine. And I'm 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.360 like what, And then I must have said something, because 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.599 then just went wow. I just jumped in the and 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.320 started flying across the kitchen. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.120 Oh, I don't like birds. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:56.600 How did it get in though? 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.440 That's what I'm trying to figure out. I'm like, it 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.720 ain't coming with me because I didn't it at all. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.160 It was it was already chilling in the kitchen before 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:05.639 I got here. It was it making a snack. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.479 It was there when you woke up and you didn't 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:08.320 notice it. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.320 It was it was in there watching TV. It was 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.560 all watching Netflix. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.559 Living in the even noticed you had a roommate. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.320 Yes, yeah, Ellie, did you catch did you catch that? 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.720 B and Chris they lived together, though he tried for 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.440 the shoot that y'all moved in together. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.240 It's a living arrangement. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:31.560 Business out there. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.280 Throw all my bites in the streets. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.319 And I already came up on a previous episode. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.199 You kind of said it, Chris, I just wasn't gonna 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:38.040 double down on it. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.520 Well, that makes me look like immature, but it does. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.160 Really somebody here has a higher maturity level. I'm not 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:46.640 gonna point in what you want to be here it is, 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.080 but you really tell me. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.200 Ellie talks about like civic action and stuff, and I'm 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.880 just like, wow, I need to like really button up. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.760 I'm like, I voted in a recent election, one of 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:04.680 those small matter. It was the county executive. So George 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.440 Latimer was the county executive for Westchester where I live, 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.440 and he it's kind of unfortunate. So Jamal Bowman, do 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.160 you know that name him? 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:12.679 Yes? 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.760 He was a yes, but he lost his election to 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.280 George Latimer, who was our He's a more moderate, still 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:23.320 a Democrat. But Latimer went up against Jamal Bowman, who 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:28.280 had made some lightly anti Israel, like had had basically 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.919 been not anti Israel but pro Palestine, and had made 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:36.919 some remarks about obviously the the ongoing crisis over there 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.680 and like, and you know, I think Brennan ambition as 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.720 a whole, like we've always supported like a peaceful resolution 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.560 and ceasefire all of that. But anyway, Jamal Bowman he got, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.160 he lost his seat. He basically sacrificed himself. He's like, well, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:51.919 I'm not gonna not stay with Palestine. I'm going to 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.919 say some things even though his district is heavily Jewish 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.160 in Yonkers, and like were he anyway, So he lost 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.600 his seat to George Latimer, which then opened up a 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.320 spot for the county executive in my in my county, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.360 and like that's what I mean by these local elections. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.200 It still has a huge impact on you know, how 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.320 things are run, different policies and stuff. So and the 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:16.280 turnout was abysmal for this little small election. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.200 I don't get it, because I don't understand how you 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.640 don't know that when you turn out and droves for 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.320 a presidential election that has very little impact on your 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.600 daily life, and you ignore the ones that are highly 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.320 localized that have a massive impact on your daily life. 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:30.920 Maybe I mean, they just don't teach civics in schools. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.720 I guess I just don't get it. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.080 It's also like the lack of local news. I mean 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.280 it's there's not like before you would have like your 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.520 paper of record for your town, your city, you know whatever. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.560 In Georgia that was always the Atlanta Journal Constitution a lot. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.960 You'd read the AJAC next year, New York Times next 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.440 to your journal and all that, and like there's so 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.720 much there's no there's not these like prominent local voices 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.400 that people pay attention to. And now everyone's on the 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.120 freaking internet. And if you can't it's back to your 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.800 point about money, Like I think I saw one sad 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:06.320 little sign for homeboy who was going up against the 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.520 conservative candidate for this seat, one little paper sign, like 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.520 on the way to daycare one day, and it's like, 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.760 there's not a lot of money in these races, and 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.080 if you ain't got the money, it's just it takes 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.440 so much money and that's why a billionaire was able 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:25.599 to buy the White House and did and uh, it's 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.080 just it's infuriating. But that does remind me what I 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:30.960 wanted to kick off the show with, which I did 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.600 not put in my show notes. It's all good because 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.840 I forgot too, but I wanted to start brown ambition 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.520 this week at the Brown table by asking y'all, I 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.640 just need you to send me just five bullet points. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.719 What did y'all do last week? And is your spot 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.600 here at the Brown table in Jeopardy Like I don't know. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:50.880 Hey, look, I can tell you none of the other 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.760 people fighting pigeons. I can tell you that successfully fighting pigeons. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.960 I mean maybe on next week's email to save your 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.360 seat you can include that. But like technical, this is 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.279 a new week, So like last week, what did you do? 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:02.880 Five things? 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.400 Let's go in retrospect, not at Corentin. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.400 You know one thing I would do is you know 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.799 I'm like an old married lady. Is because my mom 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.320 yesterday I was talking to her on the phone and 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.880 she was like, Mandy. I was texting Enrique about this 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.160 whole like elon Musk email that he needs to send 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.000 five bullet points of what he did last week, and 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.800 I this is my husband, right she texted him on Saturday, 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.400 and I'm like, oh, yeah, I haven't even talked to 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.039 him about this at this point, Like I'm at the 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.159 grocery store and I'm like, oh, so, what did he say? 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.360 Is he going to do it? His agency? He works 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.279 under the Department of Justice, which is obviously a huge thing. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.560 And so they've been told right now, like, don't respond 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:45.600 to that email. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:46.000 Or I saw that. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.840 They've been multiple agencies have been telling them ignore the email. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.520 But like, I wouldn't ignore it. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.960 I don't know, man, because that's tell me job, that's 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:56.640 your job on that. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.200 I don't think they should ignore it because honestly, those 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.440 people who are like his boss and stuff, he's like, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.000 oh he's a day And I'm like, yeah, baby, you 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.240 don't understand. They have no power anymore. The power is 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.400 in the hands of Musk and his doge people. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:11.120 You know. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.960 That's I personally would not trust an agency over like 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:16.839 the folks on the top, because they can fire the 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:17.640 entire agency. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:18.560 They've been doing that. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.240 Have you not been seeing them fire entire cohorts of 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.200 teams of people like that? That's a gamble, girl. You well, 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.120 your mom talk to him. Now, you gotta talk to him. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.559 If we're just surviving. That's the funny thing, is like, yeah, 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.720 when you have small kids, it's just hilarious. How yes 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.760 we're all like I see the news and stuff, but 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.200 like the for us, the day to day emergencies are 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.479 like did you pack the snacks the extra snacks? And 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.919 we have diapers in the diaper bag? And are their wipes? 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.120 And like which kid is screaming? And it's crazy. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.640 You have to like survive bedtime routines, girl, I. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.560 Truly, and you have to like plan if we don't 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.680 have morning coffee in the morning together like at seven am, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.960 just to like and and we have like a hug 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.240 and a kiss and just like a cup of coffee. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.440 I mean that maybe the last time I connect with 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.960 him until like the next morning, because that's how insane 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:10.520 it is. Sometimes. Well that got sad and af. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.680 There's a lot of moms of littles out there listening 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.320 like damn Okay, at least I know it ain't just 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.160 me because the first few years too, so it's listening 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:20.240 real af very raw. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.680 Oh thanks y'all. All right, Well Chris, would you what 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.360 would you do? If that if you got that email. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.360 It's hard because I get why people are saying, don't respond, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.440 because like, you don't want to give validity to someone 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.080 who's not even like who. No one elected you, no 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.080 one told you that this is your role now to 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.200 make all these decisions. You who are you? You nobody 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.480 to be making these choices for all these other people. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.400 So I get it. But at the same time, I 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.080 see what you're now. They're saying too. It's like you 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.560 don't want to give them an excuse because they are 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.120 just at any point, it's just letting people go, and 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.320 it's it's it's so okay. I don't know. Maybe I 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.160 would write them down and be like, let me just 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.480 ask a couple of people what they're doing, and maybe 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.040 we like a unified things. I mean, they can't fire 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.680 the whole they can't hire fire that everybody got to 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.960 keep us because these these foods to go. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.520 But they can just fire everybody and then like hire 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:06.480 some of them, hire. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:06.960 Two or three people. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.480 Bet right, that's sure they are doing it. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.080 I'm texting him right now. Did you send your email? Also, 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.240 we should be using the signal app for this signal 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:16.160 is like encrypted. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.000 Yeah, true, Hey, don't be putting that in check in 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.360 your and your eye messages. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.000 At this point, I'm losing track of doesn't it feel 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.640 like when you read the news now, it's just like 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.160 drinking water from a fire hose. Yeah, Or I feel 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.680 like brending where I'm just like hanging on to a 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.960 light pole and a hurricane, like those memes of like 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.439 weather people, whether men and women, who are out there 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.360 telling them whether and it's like mile you know, winds 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.120 are one hundred and fifty miles per hour and they're 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.679 just like hanging on for dear life to a like 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.840 a stop sign. Like that's how I feel. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.600 No, it's yeah, it's the meme of the little cartoon 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:48.880 on fire and he's like. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:50.360 It's okay, everything's okay. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.520 That's burning, like quite literally a couple weeks ago, everything 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.480 is burning. It's just that I just don't understand how 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.480 people are gonna go about life acting like everything's okay 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.400 and normal. So many people are and I'm like these 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:03.800 federal workers, like, first. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:08.839 Of all, the country is thrilled, true, although. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.120 I haven't seen quite a bit of stuff in my 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.200 feet of the people who voted that way, being very 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.200 upset right now, because they didn't think this was going 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:16.840 to happen either. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.640 They personally are being affected, their families being affected, their 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.800 loved ones, and they're like, this is not what I 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.040 voted for. This is not so. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.000 And when I see them, I'm like, oh, a tiny violin. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.880 But I am seeing a lot of that. Maybe it's 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.760 targeting me on my social. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.440 I think social to make us feel a little bit better, 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.280 but I don't feel better. I feel sill. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:38.880 Man. That's what it's meant to do. It's meant to overwhelm, right. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.760 It's like the game plan is to put out so 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.240 much happening at once, so you can't really focus, so 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.640 you just tune out and just don't pay attention at all. 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.520 Right, And like I you know, a tiny part of 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.400 me is always trying to be contrarian, Like, okay, what 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.520 if I'm just looking for confirmation bias of my own 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.960 ideas and thoughts and beliefs. Right, So, if I was 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.320 in charge of trying to clean up and let's be honest, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.600 bureaucracy tends to get really big and lots of unnecessary 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.320 positions in government for sure, Yes, but what would be 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.480 my plan of attack? It wouldn't be to fire everyone 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.560 and start getting everyone to do it would be like 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.439 maybe last in first out, maybe like like I don't know, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.880 I would figure out a way to yes, reduce because 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.600 I don't understand that needs to happen. But the way, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.080 the tactics, the strategy, the methodology that you're using is 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.920 ridiculous and it's so like near to impossible to justify. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.360 So I think that that's the problem that I'm having 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:29.960 with it. I'm not up here trying to say they 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.520 shouldn't be doing this and this is horrific. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.680 It needs to stop, Like, let's all be honest. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.680 There are plenty of government jobs that people go they 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.640 sit at their desk, they shop on Amazon all day, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.440 or they work from home and don't do much and 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.040 they get paid a government benefit, a government salary with 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.560 good government benefits. So that does need to be addressed, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.600 but not in this fashion though. I just feel like 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.760 it's the way they're doing it that's just wrong and 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:51.760 that it's tasteless. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.160 He showed us exactly. He showed all of us at 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.480 Twitter when he went in. It was the exact same thing. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:02.080 Fire thousands, hire some. It's all very confusing, but at 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.880 the end of the day, there's no recourse. I mean, 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.640 like they can do it. It is what it is. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.120 And I think that this is the strategy that I can't. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.760 I just can't. Everyone saw everyone who voted for them, 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.720 like they said this, they said they were going to 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.240 do this, and that is what they've done. So yeah, 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.599 I really have like negative patients for anyone who is 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.600 shocked by this. And I'm just like, well, you know, 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.120 for me, when I wake up and I think about 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.920 brown ambition and the promise that I've made to our 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:27.880 to be a fan, to be like that voice of 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.839 hope and inspiration and like let's keep pushing forward. Woo. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.560 Sometimes it's I mean it's not always the easiest thing. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.000 But I was just thinking about, like if you've been 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.960 let go by one of these agencies, I mean, the 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.679 thousands of y'all that have been let go and are 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.360 hitting the job market at a really difficult time. I 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.200 was just wondering, like if we could chat a little 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.240 bit about for them, you know, like what would you say, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:53.760 because they got bills. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.600 To pay, The bills don't stop even when the Jicks 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.680 stop the paychecks. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.000 I you know, I would say, like be on LinkedIn. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.439 I mean, I know that it is exhausting and you're 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.800 not in an emotional state of being where you can 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.920 be positively doing that. But if you need to take 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.360 a day or two to just like cry, disconnect, vent, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.320 write down your frustrations, call your BFF, and like just rant, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:16.840 do all those things. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:18.920 But once you're done with that. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.760 Like dedicate time to it, and then like get your 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.240 battery pack fully charged, because you gotta go. Like at 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:25.760 the end of the day, you have to go, go, go, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.439 Like I'm picturing the little energizer bunny right, Like, you 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.720 don't stop, like you have to. You have to be 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.640 on LinkedIn, you have to be reaching out to your network. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.480 It to be texting everybody that you're close to, Like 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.240 if you hear of anything, send it my way. This 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.319 is the position that I'm in, you know, but I'm 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.480 in positive spirits and i feel like I'm ready for something. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.760 I'm ready for my next move. Because when people see that. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.920 That's a demonstration of your character, of your resilience, and 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.719 that's the type of person they're gonna want to put 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.760 on when an opportunity does come to their email in 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.240 box or to their desk. So it is a little 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.319 frustrating because you're sort of being asked to be everything 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.439 all at once. But I do think you definitely want 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.480 to address the negative emotional aspect of it, like cry 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.480 it out, do what you gotta do, go outside and scream, 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.520 throw plates, I don't know, do what you have to do. 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.080 But then come back and like snap into it. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.000 Because you have people in your family and in your 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:11.080 home depending on you. 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.680 You, you know you need to keep it going. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.920 And then don't be ashamed to take like a smaller 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.320 part time role or to do some ten ninety nine 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.199 contractor work in the meantime, bro like that holds us down. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.240 Like I will tell you I've gotten in. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.880 Certain situations where ten ninety nine little contractor jobs that 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.560 I've done have held me down when I was not 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.120 full time employed. And you know, granted that was for 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.000 me maybe a fourth five month period of time, so 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:33.800 it wasn't extended. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.920 But those are the things that I think, Yeah, you 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:36.880 got to be prepared to do. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.480 One thing that sometimes takes people that I've talked to 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.520 a long time to do is like look up your 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.920 unemployment benefits by your state level and immediately apply even 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.199 before I think it's like each week sometimes you have 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.280 to apply for unemployment benefits to like get on that 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.120 track so you have some money coming in hopefully, especially 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.000 because it doesn't seem like a lot of workers have 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:00.640 gotten their separance payments yet finding cam Unity and other 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.760 people who have been let go. I know, for my husband, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.160 his offer was rescinded by an agency that he was 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:10.040 supposed to start with in the new year. Yeah, that's terrible. 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.040 Nearly two decades of civil service and he is not 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.640 a worker who just sits on his ass. Another one 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.839 of his colleagues was also in the same boat, and 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.720 like talking to them took the sting out of it. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.680 You know, it's almost like by opening up about what 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.920 you're going through and doesn't have to be a public 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.080 LinkedIn post, but just like an email to your network, 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.160 you know, just to privately, sort of privately tell them 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.200 what's happening so that they can support you and like 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:40.640 make you feel better. But it's it's it's really a 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.360 noock to even if you know it's part of this 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.000 like crazy political you know, power play move, it's still 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.440 not to the confidence like to your oh. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.240 For sure, in the case of your husband, where like 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.520 it's not that he didn't get it he. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.000 Got it and then he took it back. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.680 Like that is some other psychological emotional layers too, because 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.640 like it was mine, I earned it, I got it, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.080 I was given the offer, and that's this whole other thing. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.600 But I agree having some like having somebody companieser rate 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.160 with is so important. Yes it's frustrating, Yes it's emotionally draining, 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.160 But if you're actively looking for work, you have to 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:14.920 actively do it. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:16.760 You can't be like, I've been looking for work for 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.600 you know, six weeks, and I'm like, okay, how many 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.760 how many LinkedIn messages have you sent? How many? You know? 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.960 Did you sign up for LinkedIn Premium for free for 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.840 a trial so you could blast a bunch of people? 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.120 What have you actually done in these six weeks rather 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.520 than just say I've been open to work. Being open 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.360 to work doesn't mean you're actively taking the steps to 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.840 find and secure position or make a connection with someone 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:35.720 who can hook you up. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:37.840 And I mean, Mandy, you may you probably know this 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:39.680 better than I do. But from what I've been hearing 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.480 from people too, it's like a lot of it is 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.120 like you gots just like leaning your network. You can 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.120 be a little more unconventional about how you're broaching it 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.800 down because with all these tools ail tools out there 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.160 are weed out resumes even if you are qualified, they're 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.840 spitting people out. And it's been a lot of people 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.520 who've may reach out to those people they know with 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.040 their network who have been able to have more success 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:58.920 just because it's just so hard out there. We have 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.600 so many other people looking for work and it's like, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.840 not even a guarantee you're qualified, you'll get through. You 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.600 got to get a little more creative, which is more 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.520 work and it's harder, but it's like you have to 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.080 do it, which is just like, you know, I hate 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.320 having to help people. Yeah, you just got to do 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.080 work even harder to find a job than you would 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:13.760 have had to before. But it's kind of turning into 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:14.120 that now. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.800 But that I think when it comes to jobs, that 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.200 it's just like accepting the reality that's a really tough 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.360 job market. It may take you months. The average amount 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.200 of time someone's looking for a job now is six 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.160 months in America. The Department of Labor tracks that, and 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.120 so that's a long time. And you're gonna need a 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.200 system and a process and almost like treat your looking 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:34.960 for nine to five like a nine to five in 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.840 a way, and it's a huge but it's the mental 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.840 game too, and it's the mindset. And I think where 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.840 you can fall into depression and lethargy and like really 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.960 filling down is when you when you give in to 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.160 those feelings of like it's not fair, it shouldn't be 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:57.440 this way. You know, everything is terrible. It is like 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.600 drinking water through a fire hose. You turn on the news, 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.720 it's all pressing. And to really build resilience, you have 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.159 to build like that mental resilience to be able to 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.240 say I accept the way that things are and I 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.960 will keep taking a step forward. And I had the 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.320 saying that I use a lot, which is that there's 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.439 a version of me a year from now who's already 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.399