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Speaker 1: you some pigeons.

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Speaker 2: I've been there. I felt like I was in New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm out there fighting pigeons.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: I get back. I went for a walk this morning.

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Speaker 2: I had plenty of time to get ready for the recordings.

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Speaker 2: I sat on the couch. I'm going through the show

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Speaker 2: notes that uh uh, Maddie said to me, going to

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Speaker 2: make sure I know what's going on. And I hate

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Speaker 2: this noise in the background. I hear like a little

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Speaker 2: like what, And then I must have said something, because

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Speaker 2: then just went wow. I just jumped in the and

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't like birds.

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Speaker 3: How did it get in though?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to figure out. I'm like, it

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Speaker 2: ain't coming with me because I didn't it at all.

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Speaker 2: It was it was already chilling in the kitchen before

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Speaker 2: I got here. It was it making a snack.

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Speaker 1: It was there when you woke up and you didn't

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Speaker 2: It was it was in there watching TV. It was

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Speaker 3: Living in the even noticed you had a roommate.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Ellie, did you catch did you catch that?

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Speaker 1: B and Chris they lived together, though he tried for

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Speaker 1: the shoot that y'all moved in together.

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Speaker 3: It's a living arrangement.

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Speaker 1: Business out there.

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Speaker 2: Throw all my bites in the streets.

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Speaker 1: And I already came up on a previous episode.

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Speaker 3: You kind of said it, Chris, I just wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: Well, that makes me look like immature, but it does.

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Speaker 2: Really somebody here has a higher maturity level. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna point in what you want to be here it is,

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Speaker 2: but you really tell me.

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Speaker 1: Ellie talks about like civic action and stuff, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, wow, I need to like really button up.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I voted in a recent election, one of

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Speaker 1: those small matter. It was the county executive. So George

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Speaker 1: you know that name him?

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Speaker 1: He was a yes, but he lost his election to

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Speaker 1: had made some lightly anti Israel, like had had basically

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Speaker 1: and like that's what I mean by these local elections.

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Speaker 4: I don't get it, because I don't understand how you

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Speaker 4: don't know that when you turn out and droves for

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Speaker 4: a presidential election that has very little impact on your

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Speaker 3: Maybe I mean, they just don't teach civics in schools.

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Speaker 3: I guess I just don't get it.

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Speaker 1: It's also like the lack of local news. I mean

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Speaker 1: In Georgia that was always the Atlanta Journal Constitution a lot.

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Speaker 1: You'd read the AJAC next year, New York Times next

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Speaker 1: I forgot too, but I wanted to start brown ambition

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Speaker 1: this week at the Brown table by asking y'all, I

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Speaker 1: just need you to send me just five bullet points.

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Speaker 1: What did y'all do last week? And is your spot

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, I can tell you none of the other

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe on next week's email to save your

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Speaker 1: a new week, So like last week, what did you do?

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Speaker 1: Five things?

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Speaker 3: Let's go in retrospect, not at Corentin.

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Speaker 1: You know one thing I would do is you know

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Speaker 1: I'm like an old married lady. Is because my mom

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Speaker 1: I this is my husband, right she texted him on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: under the Department of Justice, which is obviously a huge thing.

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Speaker 1: And so they've been told right now, like, don't respond

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Speaker 3: Or I saw that.

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Speaker 4: They've been multiple agencies have been telling them ignore the email.

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Speaker 1: But like, I wouldn't ignore it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, because that's tell me job, that's

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Speaker 1: I don't think they should ignore it because honestly, those

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Speaker 1: don't understand. They have no power anymore. The power is

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Speaker 4: That's I personally would not trust an agency over like

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Speaker 3: They've been doing that.

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Speaker 4: Have you not been seeing them fire entire cohorts of

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Speaker 4: your mom talk to him. Now, you gotta talk to him.

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Speaker 1: If we're just surviving. That's the funny thing, is like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: You have to like survive bedtime routines, girl, I.

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Speaker 1: Truly, and you have to like plan if we don't

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of moms of littles out there listening

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks y'all. All right, Well Chris, would you what

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Speaker 2: It's hard because I get why people are saying, don't respond,

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Speaker 2: because like, you don't want to give validity to someone

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Speaker 2: to be making these choices for all these other people.

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Speaker 2: So I get it. But at the same time, I

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Speaker 1: But they can just fire everybody and then like hire

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Speaker 2: Bet right, that's sure they are doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm texting him right now. Did you send your email? Also,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, true, Hey, don't be putting that in check in

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm losing track of doesn't it feel

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Speaker 3: It's okay, everything's okay.

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Speaker 4: That's burning, like quite literally a couple weeks ago, everything

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen quite a bit of stuff in my

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Speaker 3: They personally are being affected, their families being affected, their

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Speaker 3: voted for. This is not so.

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Speaker 4: And when I see them, I'm like, oh, a tiny violin.

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Speaker 4: But I am seeing a lot of that. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: I think social to make us feel a little bit better,

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Speaker 1: but I don't feel better. I feel sill.

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Speaker 2: Man. That's what it's meant to do. It's meant to overwhelm, right.

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Speaker 1: to me that they would cancel her show's and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just want to I want to acknowledge what an

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Speaker 1: incredible legacy she's leaving behind. She has one more show.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna air the twenty fifth, I believe, so by

440
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Speaker 1: the time this comes out, it's already going to be passed.

441
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Speaker 1: But I'm sad.

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Speaker 3: You know, she's amazing, She's such a powerhouse.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny because I looked into it and I

444
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Speaker 4: was like, why is this happening? And everything that I've

445
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Speaker 4: read that that it has nothing to do with her specifically,

446
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 4: but that they're trying to make shifts that could lead

447
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Speaker 4: to higher ratings across the board.

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Speaker 1: They always are. Usually it means let's fire the black ladies.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know. But then that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, right, they're just trying to get

451
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Speaker 4: rid of her. And then when I looked at what's

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Speaker 4: replacing her, it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Simone Sander's, right, Smon Sander's.

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Speaker 4: Thomson's and yeah, and then I think Alicia Menandez and

455
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Speaker 4: and then some another guy something.

456
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Speaker 1: Your memory is like, I'm jealous.

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Speaker 3: I've literally read it.

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Speaker 4: But oh, I recognize Lisa Menandez because I did go

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Speaker 4: to a conference where she spoke, and I do respect

460
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Speaker 4: her a lot, and small Sandra's just incredible. I read

461
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Speaker 4: her book, which you know, I just I do think

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Speaker 4: it's interesting that they're just positioning this as multiple voices

463
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Speaker 4: and some diverse rather than one black woman's voice. And

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Speaker 4: that is what I noticed about the shift.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it did appear to me. I think

466
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Speaker 1: that third, the guy whose name we don't remember, he's

467
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Speaker 1: more of like a conservative slash moderate kind of voice. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: I think he's actually a Republican if I'm not wrong,

469
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Speaker 1: which I don't mind that. It's not about for me

470
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Speaker 1: that they're you know, I like the multiple I mean clearly,

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Speaker 1: that's what I did with Brown Ambition. I was like,

472
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Speaker 1: I want more than just me, I want more than

473
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Speaker 1: just two voices. Let's add it, you know, two and three.

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Speaker 1: And I love that approach. I think, you know, we

475
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Speaker 1: should be open to different opinions. But Joy is just

476
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Speaker 1: such an icon and her voice has just been I

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Speaker 1: don't know. She's just one of those people that something

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Speaker 1: big happens, like Kama, like it's the nomination. You know,

479
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Speaker 1: these even during Trump's inaugural, that whole like that whole week,

480
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Speaker 1: you just want to like turn to these voices to

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Speaker 1: find comfort into, like you know here, I mean not

482
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Speaker 1: that she was always giving comfort because it was a

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Speaker 1: lot of straight talk. It was a lot of like

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 4: You know, they had expanded her show to be a

486
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Speaker 4: panel that included her would be.

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Speaker 1: I bet they gave her that option. I doubt she

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Speaker 1: took it because for her to step down, yeah, I

489
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Speaker 1: think it was more of a pride thing.

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Speaker 4: You have to step down, but step down is better

491
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Speaker 4: than a step away. I think we want access to

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Speaker 4: her voice and her she's so powerful.

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Speaker 2: But I guess hard get it.

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Speaker 4: She's probably like, no, I can go somewhere else and

495
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Speaker 4: grow rather than you shrinking my you know what, my impact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you feel like they've lost confidence in you

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden. That like it probably probably makes

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Speaker 2: you just want to say, you know what, I'll just

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Speaker 2: do something else. I'll go somewhere else. We're on one

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Speaker 2: and not where you're going to try to push me

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Speaker 2: to the side.

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Speaker 3: I feel that.

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Speaker 2: But at this see something they're saying that they're trying

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Speaker 2: to push towards like a younger demographic. But I'm like

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Speaker 2: it may sit bec I don't think has the draw

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Speaker 2: they think it is to bring in young people, making.

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Speaker 3: Young panelists if you want, if you want to target

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Speaker 3: a young audience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm someone too, like I got rid of

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Speaker 2: cable over there.

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Speaker 1: People are not watching TV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people not watching it turns its turning on their TV,

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Speaker 2: clicking the little click to get to the No, that's

514
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Speaker 2: not happening anymore.

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Speaker 4: So that the row MSNBC clips on YouTube shorts like

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Speaker 4: if they if.

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Speaker 1: That that's where I watched my clips. I don't watch

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Speaker 1: a full thing of I can't take it. First of all,

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Speaker 1: it's too much to have these news channels on all

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Speaker 1: the time. But yeah, clips right, and the joking people.

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Speaker 1: I think we're just not consuming news in the same way.

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Speaker 1: Like it's not like a think like my parents just

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Speaker 1: have the news on all day in the background.

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Speaker 2: Like we're like it's horrific. I don't want to sit

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Speaker 2: there and listen to this all day long. Give me

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Speaker 2: a bolt, carve out a window. I'll take it a

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Speaker 2: little bit and then I'm cutting it off.

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Speaker 4: But it's also a shift to the technology, Like we

529
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Speaker 4: don't really use TVs that much anymore, Like I know

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Speaker 4: most homes probably have them, but they don't.

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Speaker 3: They just like collecting us.

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Speaker 4: Like most people watch stuff on Netflix on their on

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Speaker 4: their laptop or they'll connect it, you know, through HTMI

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Speaker 4: to their TV screen or have a smart TV to

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Speaker 4: stream on the TV. So I just think the fact

536
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Speaker 4: is that people are looking at stuff on the Internet,

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Speaker 4: not on television networks, and so that's really the shift.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's not like I don't mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's to blame Americans for not turning on.

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Speaker 3: The news all day every day.

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Speaker 4: It's just that we don't have TVs on running all

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Speaker 4: day every day like we used to. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: remind parents used to do the same thing they used

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Speaker 4: to have when Telemundo on all day on the at home.

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Speaker 4: But it's just not a thing like anymore. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: No, they're not really shifting with the times. And the

547
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Speaker 2: thing is like you you got to pivot, and these

548
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Speaker 2: traditional media networks like they still are hold on. Obviously

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Speaker 2: they're not gonna give up cable because there's still people

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Speaker 2: have it, but they're not really smoothly making that transition

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Speaker 2: into like a digital streaming service. I know, like on

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Speaker 2: Max they have a few news and networks that are

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Speaker 2: streaming there, but it's not really prevalent. Like I don't

554
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Speaker 2: think Netflix really has an option. No, I don't think

555
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Speaker 2: anyone's going on Peacock where they're looking for stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: I might be over there.

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Speaker 1: I think Netflix. I feel like these streaming services, like

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Speaker 1: live TV is a huge you know, you've seen like

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Speaker 1: Netflix do more live events. Netflix just stream the SAG Awards,

560
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Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here thinking, oh, I can't watch the SAgs.

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Speaker 1: I don't have abciously, I don't have regular show, but

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Speaker 1: it was it was streaming on Netflix. I could have,

563
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Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's the time I was going

564
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Speaker 1: to sleep really anyway. But I feel like there are

565
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Speaker 1: these live events. I mean, it started with the Love

566
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Speaker 1: Is Blind reunion show that was a sh show, and

567
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Speaker 1: it was like all was that the one? It was

568
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: all glitchy to start with, but then beyond sample was

569
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Speaker 1: a big test for the sample. I mean, I'm not

570
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Speaker 1: worried for Joy because I feel like she's an icon

571
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Speaker 1: shall always have a space. It's another example of like

572
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Speaker 1: why we can't trust even the you know, you'd think,

573
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Speaker 1: I'MSNBC is so liberal and progressive and stuff, but at

574
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's a business, and businesses

575
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Speaker 1: are going to business and with this like fire hose

576
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Speaker 1: of information that we're getting, especially in like in terms

577
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Speaker 1: of layoffs and stuff, I think you'll see other CEOs

578
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Speaker 1: and like company leaders take advantage of this time of

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Speaker 1: chaos and just start cutting people out. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: I think DEI has been obviously impacted by everything happening

581
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Speaker 1: with Trump, and you'll see you'll see more like shake

582
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Speaker 1: ups and stuff to come. And it's just another signal

583
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Speaker 1: how powerful your own personal brand has to be and

584
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Speaker 1: how we should always be no. Joy like it's going

585
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Speaker 1: to have a million contacts people who want to come

586
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: out for her for the win with Black Women Network

587
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: literally hosted an emergency call last night and supportive in

588
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Speaker 1: suppport of Joy, And it's just another like, Yeah, it's

589
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: a good reminder to just like keep that network that

590
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Speaker 1: you have, your friends, your colleagues, your peers, keep their

591
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Speaker 1: support and like keep your networks tapped into what's going on.

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Speaker 1: With you, because they'll be the ones, like you said,

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Speaker 1: youan Ellie who can open those doors to opportunities in

594
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Speaker 1: a way that yeah, not many others can. In fact,

595
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Speaker 1: if that happens, it's giving. It's giving, you know, financially,

596
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: get your together. It's time to be paying off your debt.

597
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Speaker 1: It's time to be saving, it's time to be investing.

598
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: It's time to be and investing in your own self.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a time. I honestly feel like it's

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Speaker 1: a time for us to be entrepreneurial as people of color,

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Speaker 1: as marginalized communities, like building businesses, like creating our own

602
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Speaker 1: sources of wealth. I feel like there's this we can

603
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Speaker 1: we have. That's that's a form of resistance, is a

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Speaker 1: form of survival. Even it's just like build your own

605
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Speaker 1: because we see how fallible our systems are to wealth

606
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Speaker 1: and white superiority and the majority, and like it's that's

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Speaker 1: the that's what's given me a bit of optimism is like, Okay,

608
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Speaker 1: well we can't fix that, Chris, you with us?

609
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Speaker 2: What happened?

610
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Speaker 1: All right? Your face went, You're frozen.

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Speaker 3: I'm just sitting real switch off, No, I hear you.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Mandy I do.

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Speaker 4: I will point out I know that there's so much

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Speaker 4: pressure for everybody to go out there and start their

615
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Speaker 4: own thing and do their own thing because we can't

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Speaker 4: depend on anybody. But I know I also recognize there's

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Speaker 4: people out there who are like, I'm so tired of

618
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Speaker 4: being pushed towards entrepreneurship. It doesn't call me, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: speak to me, it's not me. In my bones, I

620
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Speaker 4: know that I am not going to be an entrepreneur

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Speaker 4: and I'm not interested in that, and that's okay. But

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Speaker 4: I would say, go find your people who are are

623
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Speaker 4: those visionaries, those entrepreneurs, and help them build You don't

624
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Speaker 4: have to build that law.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Not for someone who is launching,

626
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Speaker 1: like no, absolutely, one hundred percent. I don't want y'all

627
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Speaker 1: to be doing this from a place of fear. I

628
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: want it to be I want people to find their inspiration,

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Speaker 1: Like I wake up excited to like make this show

630
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Speaker 1: and to build Brown Ambition into like a multi channel

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Speaker 1: media brand, and I want other people to join me

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Speaker 1: on that journey. And it's like we have to open

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Speaker 1: up the door and we're gonna hear actually be a

634
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Speaker 1: fan and there's all there's many different ways to like

635
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Speaker 1: build our own and to to to build our own

636
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Speaker 1: sources of wealth. It doesn't have to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: to your point y on Ellie dropping everything and going

638
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Speaker 1: to like build a bakery or buy some vending machines

639
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Speaker 1: or a trucking business.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I just I want to say that because I just

642
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 4: feel like I just spent some time with college students

643
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: and they told me that they feel so much pressure

644
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Speaker 4: to like become a millionaire by twenty one and like

645
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Speaker 4: being make your own schedule, don't let you know.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, don't be that noise.

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Speaker 1: That's because we're all out here trying to say in

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Speaker 1: sound bites you why, that's the truth of a Kid's

649
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: like everybody's trying to push in a sound bite or

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Speaker 1: in a social media clip or in a headline, but

651
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: like you're just hearing the same and people's attention spans.

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Speaker 1: It's like we need more books and long form content.

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Speaker 1: People need the full comprehensive picture behind that.

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Speaker 3: We just like need to make room for nuance.

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Speaker 1: Nelly, can you do speaking engagements or no?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did want to speak engagements.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany had asked me and for like some people that

658
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Speaker 1: I recommended, like if she gets something and she can't

659
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Speaker 1: do it, and she's like, I didn't think you, Nellie

660
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Speaker 1: could take paid speaking gigs. Okay, good, okay, I don't

661
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Speaker 1: want to block your blessings.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Christy.

663
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Speaker 1: Your name didn't come up.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I was just acting like they

665
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Speaker 2: had nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 1: I with me, what is going on with you?

667
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: Didn't need the comment didn't need the commentary from you

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00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: on that on that topic. But you know, I figured

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Speaker 2: it wasn't applying to me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't mention you. What is other than pigeons? How

671
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Speaker 1: is that stuff? How's your career.

672
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Speaker 2: Going going on?

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Speaker 1: Over there?

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Speaker 2: It's going well. I was. I did some more stuff

675
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Speaker 2: with fuse who me and you Ellie didn't work with.

676
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Speaker 2: So I was down in La back in Wait on

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, right before the week before

678
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I was down there doing it. So I

679
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Speaker 2: did a couple of shoots there and that. But so

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Speaker 2: far it's been fun something news. I'm out of the box.

681
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Speaker 2: So uh yeah, yeah, doing that and then I'm trying

682
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Speaker 2: to m I did and I couldn't. I couldn't come

683
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Speaker 2: here and say, no, I know you're gonna look at

684
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Speaker 2: me crazy.

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Speaker 1: How do you make money because y'a elle, you're like

686
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Speaker 1: primarily with next gen PF, but then you have your

687
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Speaker 1: extra stuff on the side, right, and your book is

688
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: your own business, right, like that's your own thing. I loved,

689
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: Just like the multiple incomes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anything that's in the school system, yeah, no.

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Speaker 3: For me, it's like four or five different income streams.

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00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: So if it's in schools attending p if it's advocacy,

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Speaker 4: it's Mission twenty thirty fund, which is a separate job,

694
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Speaker 4: separate check, separate email inbox, then.

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Speaker 3: It's missed off.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll see for speaking and for books and mind

697
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Speaker 4: your Money books dot Com for any speaking engagements related

698
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Speaker 4: to the book and book sales. So it's it's like

699
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Speaker 4: four at least or five different incomes streams, which is

700
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Speaker 4: I think truly what it has to be in order

701
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Speaker 4: for you to be successful these days, because just trying

702
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: to do one thing over and over're going really well

703
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: lucky if you get that. But I just knew that

704
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Speaker 4: setup was going to be much harder to pull off.

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Speaker 1: Chris. I think you and I have talked about not

706
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Speaker 1: just trying to get into the money or ask like

707
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: gotcha questions? Always?

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Speaker 2: I got your question Ryanlle's getting these nice, beautiful questions, like, Chris,

709
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: so what's going over the relationship? Where where's your money

710
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: coming from? Can we can we lighten up on me

711
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: a little bit? I don't want you to get more emails. Okay,

712
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna be get some more emails about how you drink.

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Speaker 4: We got a nice one coming up for you, Chris,

714
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Speaker 4: We got a nice one up next.

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Speaker 1: You know you don't come up lunching the emails anymore.

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Speaker 1: You also haven't been on the show in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But no, you and I spoke, we did our high

718
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: last summer, and I think you were talking about like

719
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: what's next for popcorn Finance, and like where you want

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Speaker 1: to go next, and so like how are you strategically

721
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Speaker 1: looking at how your business is laid out? And for

722
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Speaker 1: BA fam too. I think it'll be interesting to hear

723
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Speaker 1: your approach to it. So, because you're a serious dude,

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00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: and I take you very seriously.

725
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah that no one believes that you know what I'd say.

726
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: I look, I'm not as strategic of a person as you,

727
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: And really I actually look up to both of you

728
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: and how well you strategize and plan and think ahead.

729
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get better at that. So for me,

730
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: my business is like it's the podcast makes up a

731
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Speaker 2: portion of it. It's more so like this is how

732
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Speaker 2: I connect with people. This is what gets my name

733
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Speaker 2: out there, is how people find me. Other work I

734
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Speaker 2: do is I do. I've been working with Trueliant Credit

735
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Speaker 2: Union out in North Carolina for the past three years.

736
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: So I host a seriously called money Bursts, So I

737
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Speaker 2: do basically similar I do with the podcast, but like

738
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: more video format. So I do like educational stuff for

739
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: them personal find it's not a flops.

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Speaker 1: Back of your all state Polo shirts.

741
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Speaker 2: You talking about it in the beginning of this very

742
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: bright blue shirt where.

743
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Like a Polo branded shirt short.

744
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: Oh god, and they're like, yeah, you can drop that.

745
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: I say, okay, I think that's a good move for

746
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: move to me wearing my own shirts. But no, that's

747
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: been really fun. They've been like you're super easy to work.

748
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: Whilce I do that. I still do some consulting work.

749
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: So I used to be a financial analyst. I would

750
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: do like revenue analysis, and so I still do that

751
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: from time to time. I'll do you know, we have

752
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: a few hours here and there on that, and then

753
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: you know, just I do some do some speaking, I

754
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: do some brand work and things like that. Stuff I'm

755
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: doing with Fuse now and a million stories. So yeah,

756
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a like I was saying, you

757
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: got the.

758
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Speaker 1: Men's Health thing, You're a contributing writer at Men's Health.

759
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: Completely forgot how I do that. I write article it is,

760
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: so I probably do like four to five articles a

761
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: year for them. So once every other month I do

762
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: an article for them. Yeah, So you gotta you gotta

763
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: be peace mailing it. You gotta be you gotta be

764
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: spreading it out because at any point one thing can disappear.

765
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: You don't want to be like left just holding the bag, like,

766
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: oh wow, I don't know what's going on now that part.

767
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, income streams in twenty twenty five. Yeah, well, I

768
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: won't just put y'all in the hot seat. I'll share too,

769
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: because that's one of the things that I have my

770
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: accountability buddy that I meet with like once every couple

771
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: of weeks. And at the beginning of the year, we

772
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Speaker 1: made a goal to like basically dig into our dusty

773
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Speaker 1: closet of like digital product services, you know, things that

774
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: were just like on our websites that we had offered

775
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: and kind of forgot about webinars and stuff and instead

776
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: of creating new stuff, like try to repurpose and actually

777
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: like tell people about stuff that already exists, Yeah, that

778
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: they could take advantage of now Glass or you know

779
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: remember the app fish Bowl, Yeah, yeah, Glass bought them.

780
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: There's alls like an anonymous an anonymous like company advice,

781
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: like professional advice kind of thing where you could be anonymous.

782
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: You can post questions like a Reddit thread kind of

783
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: thing on what's going on with you. And they have

784
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: all these different bowls and the bowls are like different

785
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: themes like negotiation and career pivoting and men in tech,

786
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: women in tech whatever. I guess men in Tech is

787
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: just called the tech Bowl. And but anyway, so I

788
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Glassdoor is like has influencers come on and like create

789
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: content for their bowls, And honestly I love Glass store bowls.

790
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: Like if y'all now it's now it's like the that's

791
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: been branded Glassdoor, but it used to be Fishbowl. So

792
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: if y'all are not on fish Bowl, the engagement is high.

793
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: People are really there to help and to like provide

794
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: you can put any kind of question. I mean, definitely

795
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: send your questions to Brown Ambition, But like if you

796
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: want to engage, I'm I'm having fun, all right, Okay,

797
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: Well we lost a lot of time to Chris's pigeon expedition,

798
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: so we're gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it was tough. Look I'm still here. I survived.

800
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: You might need to get a tetnis shot or like some.

801
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: I know everything that pigeon touch.

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00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: All right, fan will be right back with Brown Boost

803
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Speaker 1: Brown Break. Stay tuned a and we're back. It's time

804
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: for Brown Boost, Brown Break, y'all, Nellie, Chris, I don't

805
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: got to tell y'all what a brown booster or break is.

806
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: You got anything you want to share, shout out that's exciting,

807
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: you can boost or anything you want to. I mean, Chris,

808
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: you can't break your pigeon because that's you've already talked

809
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: about it.

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00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: That's a boost right there. That was an adventure. I

811
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: didn't even need to drink coffee. I'm awake now stop.

812
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: I can go first if y'all want to think there,

813
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: all right, I have a double boost one I want

814
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: to I don't think anyone's talked about this very much,

815
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: but can we just acknowledge black Captain America's movie is out.

816
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm not a Marvel person, but I am an an

817
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Mackie stand and I just want him to have

818
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: all the success he deserves. And I don't know, Chris,

819
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: have you seen it? You're a dude.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen it. I've been there. I went there

821
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: and saw it at Imax. I gotta say, look, Marvel,

822
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: they've been a little bit of a dip movie that

823
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: been as great. But look, the movie got a lot

824
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: of hate for obvious reasons. We all know why. People

825
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: have internet movie got to hate Captain America. We all

826
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Speaker 2: know why.

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Speaker 1: With anti Yeah.

828
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Speaker 2: It was getting like before it even came out.

829
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Speaker 3: Really was primarily the platform where people were hating on it.

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00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: And y'all know why.

831
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all know why.

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Speaker 1: It's a woke Marvel movie.

833
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Is not what it is, of course, but it was.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, like, look, is it the best movie

835
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Speaker 2: I've ever seen? No, of course that i'd expect you

836
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: to be. But it was fun. I had a good time,

837
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: had great action scenes. You had Anthony mackin there, you

838
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: had Harrison Ford. It was I thought they that for

839
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: Marvel and not having to put out a movie in

840
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Speaker 2: about a year a little over year. It was. It

841
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: was solid. I had a good time.

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00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: Good well, I just I want to acknowledge that, and

843
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: also I really needed something fun to listen to. So

844
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Speaker 1: I turned on I got the Libby appout.

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00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would been using that for years.

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Speaker 1: Oh you have Okay, I was late to the Libby party.

847
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: But it's like the library app. You have a library

848
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: card and then your library I guess because a certain

849
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: number of loans you can get for audio books, so

850
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: it can be hard to get newer titles. I had to.

851
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: I was on the wait list for Keiki Palmer's book

852
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Master of Me, but I decided to listen to Jennifer Lewis's.

853
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: You know, Jennifer Lewis from Blackish, Yeah, the mother, the

854
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: Mother of Black Hollywood exactly. She's so phenomenal. But the

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00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: best thing is her book She reads them herself, and

856
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: it's like getting as it's a free ticket to a

857
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: one way Broadway show with Jennifer Lewis, so her.

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Speaker 4: Specifically, yes, and yes, both of them, but Keky's so young.

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00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Jennifer's just got so much history, you know, I love

860
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: Keky's books for other reasons, but Jennifer is just like,

861
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: it's so funny and she's just she talks her ship

862
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: and I love it. So I wanted to boost her book,

863
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: her second memoir, Walking in My Joy. It's a fun listen.

864
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: And if you haven't, go back and listened to her

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00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: first book, The Mother of Black Hollywood, because it's also huh.

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Speaker 1: Warry Is.

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Speaker 3: Got to read them both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, for Libby too, you know, because they're

869
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Speaker 2: known for the way time because obviously libraries they got

870
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: to pay for all those books there they're loaning out.

871
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: But you can have multiple library cars, just so you know.

872
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: I just picked up my San Francisco library car because

873
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: I live in San Francisco now, so I got like three.

874
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: I got my Long Beach library car from when I

875
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Speaker 2: lived there. I got my LA Public Library, I got

876
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: my San Francisco.

877
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: You have my mom's Saint Louis library car.

878
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 4: Chances ripple your chances. I'm not mad at that strategy.

879
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 4: I didn't think about that.

880
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: Sorry, well I can go next.

881
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: I'll do the I'll do a brown break, which is

882
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: that I got so many dms the last week of

883
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: February with people freaking out about the stock market. The

884
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 4: news headlines were like, it's the worst day in stock

885
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 4: market history for twenty twenty five, which is literally sixty

886
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: days in Like, so you mean to tell me the

887
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 4: last the worst performance in the stock market in the

888
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: past sixty days, and you're freaking out, ready to wipe

889
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: out your accounts. Like I had to talk people off

890
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: the ledge.

891
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: I had to talk to people. There were people like

892
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: what do we do? Like, I just don't understand.

893
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: And so for me as a brown break because it's

894
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: so frustrating that like, no matter how I feel that

895
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: we're constantly putting out so much educational content, so much

896
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 4: education content like out there, right, And I'll say again

897
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 4: and again and again again, this is normal. The stock

898
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: market will go down. This is a normal part. If

899
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: you're in it for the long haul, you don't pay

900
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: attention to these drops. They're going to happen. They're natural.

901
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 4: It's just normal, right, Like, and then I get people

902
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: sending me, you know, nine hundred and twenty seven billion

903
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: dollars was wiped out from the stock market today worth

904
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: day of twenty twenty five.

905
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: What do I do? What do you think about this?

906
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: And it's just like, oh my gosh, it's I think

907
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: the same thing that I thought the last time you

908
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: asked me. Like it's just so frustrating to be like

909
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 4: saying the same broken record, you know, again and again

910
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 4: with the same thing.

911
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: Baby girl, you chose personal finance and wait, I know,

912
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: but you just gotta say, all we do is say

913
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: the same shit one hundred different ways from Sunday.

914
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: That's so true. And you know what, it's a good reminder.

915
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: It's a good reminder for me that like sometimes I'll

916
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: be like, already made ten videos about that, make an

917
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: eleventh because you never can, like, you know, it seems

918
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: to me like I'm being a dead horse. But no,

919
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: like people really need to hear it again and again

920
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: and again. And so you know, somebody had asked, like

921
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: explain it to me. I just don't understand, and so

922
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: what I sent her a message and I'm going to

923
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 4: make this into a real because I just feel like

924
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: other people probably are also confused about it. But like

925
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 4: she didn't understand how nine hundred and twenty seven million

926
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Speaker 4: dollars could just disappear. Not I said million billion would

927
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: a beat How nine hundred and twenty seven billion dollars

928
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: could just disappear.

929
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: And so then I explained it through real estate.

930
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 4: I was like, if everybody's trying to buy your house,

931
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 4: and your house is worth one hundred thousand dollars, you

932
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 4: got so many people trying to buy it, you can

933
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: increase the price. You can sell it for five hundred thousand,

934
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 4: right because because there's so much demand, So you could

935
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Speaker 4: create four hundred thousand dollars of value by increasing the

936
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Speaker 4: price of your home. And if somebody wants it that bad,

937
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 4: they'll be willing to pay same thing. When your house

938
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Speaker 4: is not selling, you listed it, it's been listed for

939
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Speaker 4: ten months, you haven't.

940
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Speaker 3: Got one offer. Well, maybe you lower.

941
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Speaker 4: The price from one hundred thousand to ninety thousand to

942
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Speaker 4: see if you can find a buyer desperately. Then you

943
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Speaker 4: just erased quote unquote wiped out ten thousand dollars of

944
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Speaker 4: value by lowering the price.

945
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Speaker 3: Of your home. And so I explained to them that's

946
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: exactly what happens in the stock market. When you think

947
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: of a like Nike. We're if one.

948
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 4: Hundred and thirteen billion dollars, say there's a billion shares

949
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 4: of stock of Nike, that's one hundred and thirteen dollars

950
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: per share of stock. But if the price drops to

951
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: eighty dollars per share because everybody's selling it, so now

952
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: the price decreases, well, now you got to do eighty

953
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: dollars per shit per billion shares, right, and so now

954
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: you're seeing.

955
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, that means that quote unquote they went from

956
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirteen billion dollar.

957
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: Value of the company to only eighty billion dollars, and

958
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: that difference thirty three billion dollars is wiped away, right,

959
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: like quote unquote disappeared. So it's not real money. Guys,

960
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: Like I just I know it's so confusing, but I

961
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 4: just felt like when I explained it that way, like.

962
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: She was kind of like, oh, I get it.

963
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: I guess maybe connecting it to real estate, which is

964
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: something tangible that people can understand.

965
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess my break is.

966
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: A little bit of like a break with myself and

967
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: reminding myself that I just have to keep repeating some

968
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 4: of these lessons again and again in different ways.

969
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: Because hired traveling world. That's why we need each other.

970
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: That's why when I'm like, I know, that's one of

971
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: the reasons why I'm really excited with Brown ambition is

972
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: like having a content hub, like having because I'm gonna

973
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: just hire a bunch of people to write the content

974
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: that I know we need, but that I like, but

975
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: that I'm tired of writing. All right, Chris, you had

976
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: enough time.

977
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: Now, I know. I'll sit there thinking, I'm trying to

978
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, hating to pay attention and think at the

979
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: same time.

980
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: We all got a prom you.

981
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: Know, I'll give it a quick boost to my boy

982
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: Johnny the pigeon, who was in here. We were hanging

983
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: out for a bit this morning. Chris, you got, I

984
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: gave it. It's a small one, you know. He came by.

985
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: We had a little we were gonna have coffee. Bad

986
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: to kick him out because I was like, I got

987
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: a podcast to do, But you know what I'll do.

988
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: My brown boosts will be for uh. Yesterday I went

989
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: and saw all the Oscar shorts at the theater down here.

990
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: They didn't ran him back to back. It was a

991
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: five Oscar nominated short films. These are the live action ones.

992
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see the animated ones tomorrow. But they were

993
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: really good. There's some really powerful ones in there. One

994
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: that stood out there was two two I say that

995
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: was my favorite. There's one it's called Anujah. It was

996
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: done in India and it was based off of these

997
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: two girls who are working in like a basically like

998
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: a sweatshop making making clothing essentially, and there's a girl

999
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: who was like the younger sister was like really smart,

1000
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: and they were trying to make sure she got to

1001
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: the school to test to get into this boarding school.

1002
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: So it's a really really cool story, really well told.

1003
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: Uh.

1004
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: And the other one, I think, I don't know if

1005
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: you've explained it right, but it's like a it's like

1006
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: alien but it's a and then space Lean and it

1007
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: follows this couple, I'd tell it there in New York.

1008
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

1009
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: They were going down to the immigration office to apply

1010
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: for for the husband to apply for a green card

1011
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: and had a daughter together. He had lived there for

1012
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: here basically grew up in New York his whole life.

1013
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: He grew up in I think it was in the Bronx.

1014
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: And so then they get there and as he's in

1015
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: his interview, Ice shows up and they're arresting people in

1016
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: the immigration officers who are applying for their green cards.

1017
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: And it basically it was a story of this process

1018
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: and how this is happening and how common it is

1019
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: for ICE to do these raids on immigration offices as

1020
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: people in the documentary, it's it's a short film, so

1021
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: it's it's it's not like actually documentary, but it's like

1022
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: depicting these real life scenes that are going on, and

1023
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: it was it's like just in an environment where it

1024
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: now is just like powerful, sad, frustrating all the things

1025
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: to see that like that. But I think it's it's

1026
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: really well told and it's something I didn't know. I

1027
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: didn't know that was going on because it makes that

1028
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: makes no sense to do that. Why would you do that?

1029
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: So how can you trust any government agency, local, federal,

1030
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: How can you trust any any office If that's the

1031
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 4: kind of stuff happening.

1032
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: Right exactly, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be legally allowed

1033
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: to do something like that. But I'm really happy just

1034
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 2: got nominated. So it's out there and I was able

1035
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: to catch it. So if anyone out there wants to

1036
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: go sar, I don't know how you can go find it.

1037
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: I saw it in the theaters, but I'm sure there's

1038
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: ways of streatment out there. So a Leen is the.

1039
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm the worst sister in America because my little brother

1040
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: makes short films and he has one premiering tonight and

1041
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: I forgot to boost.

1042
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: Wow on social now was something.

1043
00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: Man.

1044
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: The thing with short films is they are like and

1045
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: I Chris, I'm so glad that you supported too, because

1046
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: theaters will do these short fests, these like film festivals

1047
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: where it's just short films. That's the only it's literally

1048
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: the only way that their art gets seen. And I

1049
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: was asking his girlfriend. You know, she's also a producer

1050
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: and makes films and she has incredible work, and I'm like,

1051
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: so what happens when the movie's out, and like if

1052
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: does someone buy it? And then she's like, well, maybe

1053
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: a streaming platform. There's Quelly TV kW e l I,

1054
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: which focuses on underrepresented voices, so they'll buy content from

1055
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: creators and then you can watch it on QWLLY. But

1056
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: other than that, if it doesn't get an award, or

1057
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't get shortlisted for these awards, and even then,

1058
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: if a streaming network doesn't pick it up or regular network,

1059
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: then just kind of like disappears. So they're really just

1060
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: more passion projects. Yead. My little brother Alex, he's been

1061
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: on the show before, he's going to be on it

1062
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: again too, because speaking of income streams, he's a full

1063
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: time AI sales director and he does his art, his movie,

1064
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: his films on the side. But his film is a

1065
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: short film called.

1066
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 4: My God, My God, you are the worst right now,

1067
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: the sister everybody needs right here.

1068
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: I went to the premiere in New York. I was there, so.

1069
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: You should know the name you.

1070
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: Four. All I could think about was Atlanta because I

1071
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: just was looking at my boyfriend in my head, Brian

1072
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: Tare Henry, and he was in Atlanta. Anyway, this is

1073
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: like follow follow, Okay. I've never felt more seen by

1074
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: a celebrity than when Carrie Washington thought she forgot to

1075
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: thank Tyler Perry and her acceptance speech at the NAACP

1076
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: Image Awards, and then she ran across the stage to

1077
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: take over the mic for the next presenters and said,

1078
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: I forgot to thank Tyler Perry. And then the audience

1079
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: is like, you did, you did, and She's like, bye, that's.

1080
00:46:54,200 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: So freaking Can we just admire her brilliant talent, beauty.

1081
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 3: I love carry Washing.

1082
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: I'm literally like I think I would I have a

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Speaker 4: girl crush on Kerry Washington.

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Speaker 3: I just I'm just gonna say it all out. I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna say it all out. I love her more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I mean stunning. She's just so smart. She's

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Speaker 1: always been like politically active. She never kind of like

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Speaker 1: tried to get that part of herself. She was such

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Speaker 1: a Yeah, she was such a force during the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four election. And for her to also have made

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Speaker 1: this movie six Triple eight, y'all know, I'm not good

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Speaker 1: with titles.

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Speaker 3: She's well, is that you are?

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Speaker 1: Now? So why am I wielding a colored pencil?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I will say unlike Mandy, I

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Speaker 2: got I got the information for you about these films.

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Speaker 2: So you can watch Alien on Vimeo and they posted

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Speaker 2: it up there on Vimeo, and the Anuja is on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm definitely gonna check those bolt outs.

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Speaker 1: And my brother's film Thomasville, you can watch if it

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Speaker 1: comes to a theater in your you which it. It's

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. It was in Atlanta two days ago, so

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Speaker 1: you missed it. But his production company is called Pineapple Cut.

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Speaker 1: So if you google them and you go to their website,

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Speaker 1: you can get on their list and they'll let you

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Speaker 1: know when their other films are going to be premiering

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Speaker 1: in these different short festivals, and please support your local

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Speaker 1: short fest because these filmmakers are just like truly artists

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Speaker 1: and they are putting out their work and it's very inspiring.

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of him. We come a long way

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Speaker 1: since editing each other's Harry Potter fanfiction.

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Speaker 3: Say that you know, Wow, it's super short. It's under

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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. Okay, I just looked it up. I'm totally gonna.

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Speaker 1: Bookmark this alien or what was it? No, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about Thomas or Thomasville. Oh okay, yeah, he wrote it,

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Speaker 1: directed it.

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Speaker 3: Oh look at it director Alex Woodraw.

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Speaker 2: You two looks so much alike.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you really do.

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Speaker 1: We're both writers. And yeah, I'm just really proud of

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Speaker 1: he inspired me. You might see a short film by

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Speaker 1: Mandy Woodrif Santos Hey Trick.

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Speaker 2: I bet you remember the name.

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Speaker 1: He is a better person than me in many ways,

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Speaker 1: so he probably won't. But yeah, I love my brother.

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Speaker 1: It's also his birthday, Happy birthday. How do I get

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Speaker 1: the balloons to come up again?

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Speaker 3: You gotta do something with your hands.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that you did it like by mistake and then

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Speaker 4: when you were to happen, it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Is this uh okay? B A fam? All right, well

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Speaker 1: that is the show. Thank you to Chris and y'a

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Speaker 1: Nelly for joining me at the Brown Table. BA Fam,

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Speaker 1: Stay strong, stay hopeful, choose optimism every day. We love y'all,

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Speaker 1: See you next time.