1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center Ted Cruz, The Week 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: in Review, Ben Ferguson with you, and these are the 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: top stories that you may have missed that we talked 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: about this week. First up, it was a very big 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: week in Washington, d C. Especially after my ORC has 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: failed to be impeached by the GOP. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: Will they try again and what could that look like? 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Also, the Senate immigration bill fails as well, so what 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: will be next for the White House? Plus the DOJ 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: comes out with a shocking report saying that Joe Biden 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: is basically incompetent and couldn't be charged of crimes because 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: he's just too old and can't remember anything. The fallout 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: from that will be massive, So what does the White 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: House do in response? And finally, polling shows that the 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: American people are desperate for a secure border and this 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: includes Democrats. It's the Weekend Review and it starts right now. 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: Not only is it a lie, Donald Trump's not the 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: president right now? And you look at the numbers to 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: also back up why in twenty twenty illegal border encounters 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: for four hundred thousand twenty twenty one, it jumped to 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: one million, seven hundred and thirty five thousand. Then in 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two under Biden, get it jumped to two million, 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy nine thousand, twenty twenty three, two million, 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy six thousand, and yet he wants 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: to say the only reason the border is not secure 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: is because of Donald Trump. 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: It's a lie. They're the facts to back it up. 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: But what's next. 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: Now, because well, and let me explain more why it's 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: a lie. Listen, what Biden is saying, what Schumer is saying, 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: is that we had a fabulous bipartisan agreement that would 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: have solved this problem. But then crazy Donald Trump and 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: they're telling, decided he didn't want to solve this problem, 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: and he threw a fit and said, don't pass anything 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: because I want a campaign on this. And then their 36 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: narrative continues to be and all the Republicans are sheep 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: and they just obeyed Donald Trump. And the reason this 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: failed is because because Trump ordered Republicans to oppose this. 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: That is Joe Biden's story. It is also Chuck Schumer's story. 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: It is also the story of every single Senate Democrat. 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm reading the clips and it's word for word, every 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: Senate Democrat, And you know what, it's also Mitch McConnell's story, 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: and it's the story of several other Republicans who are 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: going out and they're saying, oh, you're just following Trump's orders. Well, listen, 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: I talked to Trump frequently, but I can tell you 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: I haven't had a single conversation with Trump about this 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: issue at all. I've been leading the fight against this 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: issue from the beginning. We haven't talked about this supplemental bill, 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: but it was obvious on the merits. I looked to 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: the merits and said, does this bill solve the problem? 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: And it doesn't, but it is incredibly harmful when Republican senators, 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: many of them just they don't like Trump and they're 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 3: frustrated now and so they're lashing out, but they're lashing 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: out in a way that helps Democrats. 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: So where do we go from here? I mean, there's 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: also another defeat. People are frustrating the House side and 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: impeaching my orchist that failed. Granted it could come up 58 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: for another vote, but as of now it seems like 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: that's a failure. We have an open border that seems 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: like another failure. Is this now just going to be 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: a wide open border till election day. And that's what 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: this next election is going to be about. Hey, you 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: vote for Republicans and you'll get a secure border only. 64 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: If we have the House, Senate in the White House. 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: Look, in all likelihood, yes, Joe Biden caused this open border. 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: Joe Biden could secure it tomorrow. He did it unilaterally. 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: He didn't pass any new legislation. He didn't change the 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: law to cause this crisis. He simply defied the law. 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: He made three decisions that caused this crisis. He stopped 70 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: building the border wall, he reinstated the disastrous policy of 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: catch and release, and he ended the incredibly successful policy. 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: The agreement remained in Mexico. That's what caused this crisis. 73 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: Biden could change that tomorrow. He doesn't want to. He's 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 3: not going to now. Actually to fix this, we don't 75 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: necessarily need a Republican president, Republican House, and Republican Senate. 76 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: We just need a Republican president. If Trump were president again, 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: we would secure the border again. Why because he would 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: vigorously enforce the law. Biden is defying the law. Winning 79 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: the White House as the key to securing the border. 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: Now with a Republican Senate in House, we can do more, 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: we can be more effective. But you ask what's next, Well, listen, 82 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: what's next. Tomorrow We're going to vote on this supplemental 83 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: with the bad border provisions that's going to fail. What 84 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: we're anticipating will happen next is Schumer is going to 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: go back to the supplemental that has Ukraine and has 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: Israel and has Taiwan and does nothing on the border. 87 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: That's what he tried initially that we blocked in the fall, 88 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: and I don't know what will happen. I'm going to 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: oppose it because what I said before, I still believe 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm not going to vote for this bill until we 91 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: actually secure our border. When I said it, unlike Republican leadership, 92 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: I wasn't just reading talking points. I actually believe that 93 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 3: securing the border is the existential national security threat facing 94 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: the UNI States right now, and we should use the 95 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: leverage that the Democrats desperately want on Ukraine to try 96 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: to get it done. So I think our view should be, 97 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: if you want Ukraine funding, attach it to HR two 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: and you'll get your funding. But Schumer's going to take 99 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: up Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, he's probably going to begin tomorrow, 100 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: and I don't know what will happen, but I think 101 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 3: there is a very real possibility that a significant number 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: of Republicans vote for that, that they care so much 103 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: about the Ukraine funding, they're going to say, we try 104 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: it on the border, we failed, Now let's fund Ukraine. 105 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: If they get nine votes, which I think is probably 106 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: pretty likely, they'll get sixty, which is what it takes 107 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: to pass the Senate. And so I think there's a 108 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: reasonable prospect that a supplemental bill that funds Ukraine and 109 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: Israel and Taiwan will pass out of the Senate. But 110 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: then I think it's very likely to fail in the House. 111 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: I don't think the House will take it up. And 112 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 3: that means that McConnell and Schumer and Biden still have 113 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: a problem if they want Ukraine funding. Passing a clean 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: funding bill out of the Senate is not going to 115 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: get the job done. And so what I would urge 116 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: the House to do is take the Ukraine funding bill, 117 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: attach HR two to it, and send it back to 118 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: the Senate and keep fighting. Use the leverage we have 119 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: to say, hey, you can have this funding if you 120 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: want secure the border first, Because that matters more and 121 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: use that leverage. Look, that will not come from McConnell 122 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: and Senate Republican leadership, but I'm hopeful the Speaker and 123 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: House Republicans will hold the line. And I hope that's 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: what's next. 125 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. Let's 128 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: talk about the politics now of this, because you and 129 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: I witnessed it for the first time in history. We've 130 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: played it for everybody listening. The White House Press Corps 131 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: turning on him, this is something he's never experienced. In fact, 132 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: I want to play for you just an example of 133 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: how quick CNN turned on him. You would have thought 134 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: they were talking about Donald Trump, except they were talking 135 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: about Joe Biden. 136 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: Take a listen to this from CNN. 137 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: Ultimately, what Robert Hurt says in this report is essentially 138 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: the technical elements of a crime. It appears Robert Hurst 139 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: saying we're met. But what he ends up doing is 140 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: looking at the soft factors. And you're allowed to do that. 141 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: You have to do that as a prosecutor. And he 142 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: takes into consideration things like what he says, and maybe 143 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: this is overstated, maybe not on leave that to the 144 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: political folks, but he says, essentially, Joe Biden would have 145 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: created a sympathetic picture in front of a jury. He 146 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: had memory issues, he had age issues, and that goes 147 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: into did he was he able to form the mental 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: intent here? 149 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: That's CNN and they weren't done there. They also then 150 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: went on to say that Joe Biden was an essence 151 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: a liar at his press conference. 152 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: Here's this. 153 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: That is what blew my mind about Joe Biden's statement SEP. 154 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: Two major things he just out right contradicts or is 155 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: contradicted by. However you look at this this report, there 156 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: are two things he said that are completely the opposite 157 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: of what Robert Hurr found. And who do you believe 158 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: is up to? I guess the individual consumer. First, Joe 159 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: Biden says, I did not act wilfully. Wilfully just means 160 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: voluntarily intentionally. Well, the second sentence of this whole summary 161 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: says President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials. The 162 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: facts in here show it was wilful. He knew, he 163 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: talked about it. And the second thing he says is 164 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: I did not disclose classified documents to my ghostwriter. 165 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: Page three says that he did that. 166 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: He says, mister Biden shared information, including some classified information 167 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: from those notebooks. 168 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Senator I watched that on CNN and I said, holy crap. 169 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: They're turning on him, and this is the end of 170 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's presidency as we know it. They're trying to 171 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: offload him in real time because of this report, saying 172 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: here it is, let's take him out. 173 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, this is a mass problem, and it's not 174 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: a problem that goes away in a day or two, 175 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: or a week or a month. This is a problem 176 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: that continues every day Joe Biden remains in the presidency. 177 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: I'll also point out something else, which is this report 178 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: implicitly exonerates Donald Trump, which is an enormous problem for 179 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: Biden as well, because look, one of their big marquee 180 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: cases against Trump. Now they're prosecuting him for damn near everything, 181 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: including late library books, but one of their marquee cases 182 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: is that Trump possessed classified documents in mar Laga. And 183 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: let me read again from the report. This is what 184 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: they say about Biden. Quote. Contemporary evidence suggests that when 185 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: mister Biden left office in twenty seventeen, he believed he 186 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: was allowed to keep the notebooks in his home. In 187 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: a recorded conversation with his ghostwriter in April twenty seventeen, 188 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: mister Biden explained that, despite his staff views to the contrary, 189 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: he did not think he was required to turn in 190 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: his note cards to the National Archives, where they were 191 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: stored a skiff, and he had not wanted to do so. 192 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: At trial, he would argue plausibly that he thought the 193 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: same thing about his notebooks. If this is what mister 194 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: Biden thought, we believe he was mistaken about what the 195 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: law permits. But this view finds some support in historical practice. 196 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: The clearest example is President Reagan, who left the White 197 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: House in nineteen eighty nine with eight years worth of 198 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: handwritten diaries, which he appears to have kept in his 199 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: California home, even though they contained top secret information. During 200 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: criminal litigation involving a former Reagan administration official in nineteen 201 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: eighty nine and ninety, the Department of Justice stated in 202 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: public court filings that the quote currently classified diaries were 203 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: mister Reagan's quote, personal records. Yet we know of no 204 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: steps that apartment or other agencies took to investigate mister 205 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: Reagan for handling, mishandling classified information or to retrieve or 206 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: secure his diaries. Most juror errors would likely find evidence 207 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: of this precedent and mister Biden's claimed reliance on it, 208 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: which we expect would be admitted at trial, to be 209 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: compelling evidence that mister Biden did not act wilfully, as 210 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: with the marked classified documents. Because the evidence is not 211 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: sufficient to convict mister Biden for wilfully retaining the notebooks, 212 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: we decline prosecution. Now that entire passage, you could write 213 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: word for word and simply replace the word Biden with Trump, 214 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: and it would be a major defense for Trump. And 215 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: this incoherence, the Department of Justice is going to have 216 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: a nightmare because I promise you Trump's defense lawyers are 217 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: going to quote that back at them and say, you 218 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: know what, the Department of Justice was right and if 219 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: they were right about Biden. By the way, on this podcast, 220 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: we walk through had the oracle president was president after 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: president after president had kept documents, including President Reagan, including 222 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: President Obama, including President Clinton. We walked through the history. 223 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: That's what the Department of Justice just concluded is their 224 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: reason not to prosecute Biden, and the obvious screaming question is, well, 225 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: then why do you go after the opposing party other 226 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: than because you are politically trying to stop the voters 227 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: from voting for the other guy. 228 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: You go back to politics of this for a second. 229 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: And I can only imagine how stressed out White House 230 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: staff is tonight. I'm sure you agree with me. At 231 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning right now as. 232 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 3: You are, they're all awake. 233 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: Nobody is at all awake. 234 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're probably at the White House still. They 235 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: lost Democrats today, and they lost the media today, and 236 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: now it's got to feel like you're either inside the 237 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: inner circle of Team Biden to prop him up and 238 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: protect him, and now the Democrats seem to be circling 239 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: the wagon. In your opinion, is this the beginning of 240 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: the end of the Biden presidency? Do you think he 241 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: actually makes it to election day because he's going to 242 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: dig in That was clear from the press conference tonight. 243 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: But it looks like and this could change. 244 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: But as of one am right now, it looks like 245 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: Democrats are saying it's official, we are not going to 246 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: support Joe Biden in this president to run any longer. 247 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: We got to figure out how to offload him. 248 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: Look, I think the odds remain very low that he 249 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: steps down before the end of his term. I think 250 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: as long as he is able to stand vertically and 251 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: not fall over, he is going to finish out this year. 252 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: That being said, as I said at the beginning of 253 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: this pod, I think the odds that the Democrats push 254 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: him aside and replace it with Michelle Obama about sixty 255 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: five to thirty five. Or put it in another way, 256 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: it's about two to one. Now more likely than not 257 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: that the Democrats decide this guy cannot be our nominee 258 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: in November. 259 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: One other question I do want to ask you, does 260 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: this change the way that Republicans investigate Joe Biden knowing 261 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: that the DOJ is now basically said, you can't charge 262 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: this guy with anything, or we're not going to charge 263 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: this guy with anything. If they wouldn't do it now, 264 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: why would they change that logic moving forward? How does 265 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: that change the way that James Comer and Jim Jordan 266 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: are doing their investigations And should it change the way 267 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: they're doing their investigations at all? 268 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: It shouldn't, and I don't think it will, And as 269 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: we've discussed at great length on this podcast, the evidence 270 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: of Joe Biden's corruption, of his deliberately selling favors from 271 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: the Vice President of the United States to foreign oligarchs, 272 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: to Russian oligarch's, Ukrainian oligarchs, Chinese communists for millions and 273 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: millions of dollars, that evidence is very significant, and it 274 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: is repeated evidence not only of doing so, but doing 275 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: so willfully, doing so deliberately, and then aggressively covering it 276 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: up and lying about it. And I think we will 277 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: see the House continue to lay out that evidence and 278 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: to lay it out at great length. And I would 279 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: point out Number one, an immediate step for that potentially 280 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: is impeaching Joe Biden, and the Department of Justice doesn't 281 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: get a vote on whether or not to impeach Joe Biden. 282 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: But number two, whether or not whether or not Biden 283 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: gets prosecuted for bribery is ultimately not going to be 284 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: a question decided by this Department of Justice. The chances 285 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: that Merrick Garland brings charges are zero points zero zero percent. 286 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: He is acting, and he has acted his entire tenure 287 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: like a political operative who works for the DNC so 288 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland's not going to do it. And indeed, there 289 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: is considerable evidence underscored by two irs whistleblowers who are 290 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: career employees and Democrats, that Merrick Garland actively lied to 291 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: Congress under oath, committed felonies, and obstructed justice. So with 292 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: or without this report, this DOJ was never going to 293 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: prosecute Joe Biden. That being said, if the House continues 294 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: to lay out the evidence and we have an Apartment 295 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: of Justice that is not controlled by Joe Biden, if 296 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: there's a Trump Department of Justice, and there is real 297 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: evidence a bribery and corruption of Joe Biden and Hunter 298 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: Biden and the extended Biden family, I think the possibility 299 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,239 Speaker 3: of a prosecution is real and significant. 300 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: One other question, and this is something that I think 301 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: so many Americans want to know. When you see this 302 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: report that just came out, and you see the cognitive 303 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: decline and what they're stating in this report there, you 304 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: got to ask this question, who is running this country 305 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: right now? Because if it is as bad as this 306 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: special prosecutor is saying, it is behind closed doors, and 307 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: we know how this media has propped him up and 308 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: protected him, and we know how the White House is 309 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: limited as schedule. He sleeps in the morning. He works 310 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: usually between I think they said what noon and four. 311 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: He's not doing big events. He's getting the name of 312 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: leaders wrong now and when there who's alive and who's 313 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: dead now on a regular basis. That's happened three times 314 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: in the last three days. Who is running the country? 315 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: Senator? And does that concern you as well? 316 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: So I can tell you I get asked that question regularly. 317 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: I got asked that question tonight. Every week someone asks 318 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: me who's running the White House? Who's running the government? 319 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: The honest answer, and this is really scary. 320 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: I don't know. 321 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: I genuinely don't know. I have a theory. I think 322 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: it is Barack Obama, but I can't prove that. I 323 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: don't know that to be a fact. It's just that 324 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: that there are various data points, including the fact that 325 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: Obama remained in DC, something no president in modern times 326 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: is done. He's regularly in d C. He's regularly holding court, 327 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: he's meeting with Democrats, he's meeting with members of the 328 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 3: administration at his house. And so I think it is 329 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: likely Obama, but I can't prove that. I just know 330 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: it's not Joe Biden. So it is some combination of 331 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: Obama and other senior White House officials and people like 332 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and AOC. But the candid 333 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: answer is I have no idea. 334 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 335 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 336 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: down the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 337 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 338 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: story number three of the week you may have missed. 339 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: So then, how did leadership get this so wrong? 340 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: Because the American people in the polling specifically on the 341 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: border crisis was overwhelmingly in the side of conservatives and 342 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: what we've been calling for, what we've been advocating for 343 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: and for genuinely securing the border. 344 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: In fact, it played even more. 345 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: Into the Hans the Republican Party after you had this 346 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: fight between Texas and cutting the razor wire and the 347 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: boarder and the myiorchists and what's happening with the Biden administry, 348 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: and the polling shows that the American people are not 349 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden on this issue. Yea, how could they 350 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: not see that? How could Mitch McConnell not see. 351 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: That because Mitch McConnell. What he cares about is Ukraine funding. 352 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: He has said repeatedly it is the most important thing 353 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: in the country to fund the war in Ukraine. 354 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: And so does he believe that or is there something 355 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes politically? 356 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: I think he believes it. I have no reason to 357 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: doubt his sincerity in saying that. But he is passionate 358 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: about it. And when it comes to the border, look, 359 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: would he like to secure the border shore? Would he 360 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: vote for something to secure the border shore? But it's 361 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: not a driving priority for him. If it doesn't happen, well, okay, 362 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: that's unfortunate, but it's not. It wasn't his objective in 363 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: this whole thing. And so here's the fundamental challenge. And listen, 364 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: this bill was negotiated by James Langford, Republican from Oklahoma, 365 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: by Chris Murphy, an extremely liberal left wing Democrat from Connecticut, 366 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: and by Kirsten Cinema, a liberal to somewhat moderate Democrat 367 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: slash independent from Arizona. And Lankford. Langford's a really good 368 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 3: guy and Langford has been just just gone through a 369 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: buzzsaw on this And basically what happened is leadership pushed 370 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: him out on a limb and then saw the limb 371 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: off behind him, and he's been getting pounded. But here 372 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: was the problem for Langford, and Langford was just followed 373 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: orders and did what leadership asked him to do. And 374 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 3: here was the problem. There were two mandates that were 375 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: non negotiable. Chuck Schumer's mandate effectively was we will not 376 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: secure the border. We won't agree to anything that is 377 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: effective securing the border. That was Chuck Schumer's non negotiable. 378 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell's mandate, his non negotiable was we must must 379 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: get a deal because what he cares about is Ukraine funding. 380 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: So Langford was essentially told do whatever you can to 381 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: get a deal from Schumer. But no, oh is not 382 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: an answer. You must agree to what Schumer wants. And 383 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: so Langford spent hundreds thousands of hours negotiating with Chris Murphy, 384 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: which I do not envy the guy. That was not fun. 385 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: But he was operating from a position that McConnell wouldn't 386 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: let him say no. McConnell's instructions were get a deal. 387 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: So when you ask James, well, why are these terms 388 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: so bad? Why aren't there better. He says, well, that's 389 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: all the Democrats would agree to. Yeah, like, it's real simple. 390 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: If you want the Ukraine funding, pass HR two and 391 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: you got to be prepared to walk away. Now. I 392 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: don't know what they would have done if that happened, 393 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: but we will never know because McConnell's immediate response when 394 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: Schumer said no, no, no, we won't do HR two is well, okay, 395 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: well then we'll do whatever you want. And it's even 396 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: worse than that. This was an incredibly misguided strategy. But 397 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: I want you to listen to McConnell at a press 398 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: conference today after our lunch to give a listen. 399 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 5: Leader McConnell, Leader mcconom You know, Senator Schumer says that 400 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 5: he worked extensively with you on this package. What do 401 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: you say to your colleagues who said that you miswrite 402 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: your conference in helping to craft this border for this this. 403 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 6: I followed the instructions of our conference who were insisting 404 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 6: that we tackled this in October. I mean, it's actually 405 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 6: our side that wanted to tackle the border issue. We 406 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 6: started it obviously with a Democratic president and a Democratic senator. 407 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 6: Our negotiators had to deal with them and James Langford 408 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 6: under those situations, did a remarkable job to pick off 409 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 6: the Border Council, which supported President Trump. Certainly underscores that 410 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 6: it was a quality product that that particular union felt 411 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 6: would make progress towards making things better. But as I 412 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: said earlier, things had changed over the last month, and 413 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: it's been made perfectly clear by the Speaker that he 414 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 6: wouldn't take it up even if we sent it to him. 415 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 6: And so I think that's probably why most of our 416 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: members think we ought to have opposition. Tomorrow. We'll see 417 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 6: and then move on with the rest of the supplement. 418 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great story center, but does it 419 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: seem to necessarily add up with reality? 420 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: Does it well? 421 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: And I want to underscore, So you're seeing half of 422 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: what was the biggest fight at lunch today, and so 423 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: I wanted you to listen to that because that's what 424 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: Mitch said at lunch. And I have a policy at 425 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: the lunches, which is I don't repeat what other senators 426 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: say at the lunch. I think they're owed some expectation 427 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 3: of privacy that we can have candid and really frank discussion. 428 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: So I don't repeat what others say, but I repeat 429 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 3: what I say, because if I said it, I have 430 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: a right to repeat it and say it elsewhere. Given 431 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: that Mitch went out and just said it to the reporters, 432 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: I can tell you that's what he said in the 433 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: room as well. And when he said it, I stood 434 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: up and I said, by the way, and you listen 435 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: to the words he just said that press conference. He said, well, gosh, 436 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: it was the Republican conference that wanted to tackle this issue. Notice, 437 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: tackle this issue. Yeah. No, we didn't want to quote 438 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: tackle this issue. We wanted to solve this issue, fix 439 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: the border. Notice he said, well, gosh, it's Democrats. So 440 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: obviously we weren't going to succeed in solving the border. 441 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: So we just had to tackle the issue and do 442 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: what the Democrats want. That's his view. But when he 443 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: made that argument, and you just listened to it, I 444 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 3: stood up immediately after him and I said, I got 445 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: to say, if Republican senators go out and repeat what 446 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: Mitch just said, it would be spectacularly harmful and it 447 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: would be a massive political favor to Chuck Schumer and 448 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: every Democrat running. And let me explain to you why, 449 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: because what Mitch argued, Notice he said, there, hey, you know, 450 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: James did a fantastic job and this bill was a 451 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: great work product. It was a terrific bill. And Mitch 452 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: was like saying, well, just say, well, the House wouldn't 453 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: pass it. I said, let me be clear. If a 454 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: bunch of Republicans go out and say this is a 455 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: terrific bill, but the House wouldn't pass it. Every Democrat 456 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: John Tester this week has already said, look, I was 457 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: ready to secure the border, but these crazy right wingers 458 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: wouldn't pass it. And their story they want to tell 459 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: is these knuckle dragging Trumpers don't actually want to secure 460 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 3: the border because we had a great bill to secure 461 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: the border, and they're so crazy they want so their 462 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: argument is that Republicans want the issue, We want a 463 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: campaign on the border rather than actually fix it. And 464 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you I yelled at my colleagues last week 465 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 3: when they were making this argument, and I said, listen 466 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: for me, I've lived this border. There is nobody in 467 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: this body who wants to solve this more than I do, 468 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: because it is a travesty that is hammering and destroying 469 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: Texas every day. But I said, listen, if a bunch 470 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: of Republicans go out and tell the story. This was 471 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 3: a great bill that would secure the border. But you know, 472 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: Trump is so crazy, we couldn't do it. But the 473 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: Speaker of the House and the House Republicans, they're so crazy, 474 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: we couldn't do it, and so it's their fault. But 475 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: we had a fabulous bill. I said, listen, you are 476 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: literally repeating Schumer's talking points for every Senate Democrat incumbent. 477 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: If you want John Tester to win, go say what 478 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 3: you just said to the reporters. If you want Shared 479 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: Brown to win, if you want every Democrat running to win, 480 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: go say that. And I said, look what you ought 481 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: to say. And I said, listen, you don't have to 482 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: throw James Langford under the bus. He's a good man. 483 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 3: But the reason this bill sucks is because the Democrats 484 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: are radical zealos who don't want to secure the border, 485 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: and so they wouldn't agree to a bill other than 486 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: a bill that sucks. And that's not a complicated message. 487 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: You don't have to say, you know, Langford is a 488 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: horrible human being. You just have to say he was 489 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 3: given an impossible task because it depends on the Democrats agreeing, 490 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: and the Democrats want open borders as long as they 491 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: want open borders, they won't agree to legislation that stops 492 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: open borders. But the infuriating thing is Mitch walked right 493 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: out and said it to the press. So he's perfectly 494 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: happy to say, hey, great bill, just crazy Republicans won't 495 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: pass it. And that's exactly what Schumer is saying as well. 496 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: The two of them, this wasn't a Langford Murphy bill. 497 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: This was a Schumer McConnell bill. This was the two 498 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: of them. And why was it Because both of them 499 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: desperately want to fund the Ukraine war and on immigration. 500 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: They just wanted to throw whatever fig leaf was necessary 501 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: on the table to give to give an excuse to 502 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 3: try to get Ukraine funding passed. 503 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that are gonna be listening. 504 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: They're gonna say, all right, well, yes, this seems like 505 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: this is a victory that we didn't have this bill 506 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: become all But there also seems to be a lot 507 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: of frustration of okay, what's next, I mean, Senator, we 508 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: we can't secure the border. That is their leverage on everything. 509 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: Biden sitting there saying, okay, fine, we'll just keep having 510 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: record number of legal immigrants come across the southern border. 511 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: You look at the numbers, uh there there that we're 512 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: breaking record after record. I go back to the basics 513 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: that Biden said in his press conference quote, the only 514 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: reason the border is not secure is Donald Trump. 515 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: We know that's a lie. 516 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: I notice notice, by the way, that's Mitch McConnell's talking 517 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: point too. If Joe Biden Mitch McConnel are saying the 518 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: same thing, why is the Republican Senate leader repeating Biden 519 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: and Schumer's talking point? That is a lie. 520 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: Not only is it a lie, Donald Trump's not the 521 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: president right now. And you look at the numbers to 522 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: also back up why it's a lie. In twenty twenty 523 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: illegal border encounters for four hundred thousand, twenty twenty one, 524 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: it jumped to one million, seven hundred and thirty five thousand. 525 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: Then in twenty twenty two under Biden again, it jumped 526 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: to two million, three hundred and seventy nine thousand twenty 527 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: twenty three, two million, four hundred in seventy six thousand, 528 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: and yet he wants to say the only reason that 529 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: border is not secure is because of Donald Trump. It's 530 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: a lie. They're the facts to back it up. But 531 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: what's next now, because. 532 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 3: Well, and let me explain more why it's a lie. Listen, 533 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 3: what Biden is saying, what Schumer is saying, is that 534 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: we had a fabulous bipartisan agreement that would have solved 535 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: this problem. But then crazy Donald Trump and they're telling, 536 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: decided he didn't want to solve this problem, and he 537 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: threw a fit and said, don't pass anything because I 538 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: want to campaign on this. And then their narrative continues 539 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: to be and all the Republicans are sheep and they 540 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: just obeyed Donald Trump. And the reason this failed is 541 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: because Trump ordered Republicans to oppose this. That is Joe 542 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: Biden's story. It is also Chuck Schumer's story. It is 543 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: also the story of every single Senate Democrat. I'm reading 544 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: the clips and it's word for word every Senate Democrat. 545 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: And you know what, it's also Mitch McConnell's story, and 546 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: it's the story of several other Republicans who are going 547 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: out and they're saying, oh, you're just following Trump's orders. Well, listen, 548 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: I talked to Trump frequently, but I can tell you 549 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: I haven't had a single conversation with Trump about this 550 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: issue at all. I've been leading the fight against this 551 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 3: issue from the beginning. We haven't talked about this supplemental bill, 552 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: but it was obvious on the merits. I looked to 553 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: the merits and said, does this bill solve the problem? 554 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: And it doesn't, but it is incredibly harmful when Republican senators, 555 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: many of them just they don't like Trump and they're 556 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: frustrated now and so they're lashing out, but they're lashing 557 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: out in a way that helps Democrats. 558 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Sentner, 559 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to dial 560 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcast 561 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 562 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: day when you listen to Verdict afterwards, I'd love to 563 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: have you as a listener to again Ben Ferguson Podcasts, 564 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.