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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, look at us back in studio. What's up everyone?

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Speaker 3: It is the thirteenth of June. It's a Monday, twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, and it's time for Morning Combat. Can't hear

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Speaker 3: that's no big deal. But we'll do what we can.

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Speaker 3: Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell, we are your host, and I

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Speaker 3: gotta say, I guess I guess you're the King of

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Speaker 3: Connecticut again.

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Speaker 2: Huh, Unfortunately I am. I mean, what a dramatic turn

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Speaker 2: of events from my state. On Saturday night in Singapore

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Speaker 2: in the main event.

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Speaker 3: Wow, surely was UFC two seventy five is what we're

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Speaker 3: going to be getting to a lot here. What an

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Speaker 3: incredible event. I know, I know we didn't have a

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Speaker 3: lot of fan fare. We were kind of sleeping on it,

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Speaker 3: but it turned out to be one of the best.

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Speaker 2: Basically, we're like, hey, it's three fights and a bunch

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Speaker 2: of other stuff, but that bunch of other stuff was

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Speaker 2: awesome in the three fights. We're pretty damn compelling in

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Speaker 3: And there will be an extra credit today. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: There is this well merch one point oh shirt and

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Speaker 2: doing that? Now? You're doing all right? Right, you're doing

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Speaker 2: all right? Look yeah, looking young?

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Speaker 3: And I gotta say, though, you got to say you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What was our favorite barber's name?

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Speaker 3: He's very good. I would like to see him again.

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Speaker 3: And you'll have a whole lot of time over we're here.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot to get to today. We're gonna do,

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Speaker 3: of course, UFC two seventy five, plus there's some boxing news.

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Speaker 3: International Boxing Hall of Fame inducted a lot of people yesterday,

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Speaker 3: including we're not limited to former UFC Women's bands andweight

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Speaker 3: champion Holly Holm. Did you see the pictures of home Monk? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: she's been in the weight room, my lord. She was

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Speaker 3: in good shape. So we'll talk a little bit about

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Speaker 3: that as well. Plus have you seen the ship and

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Speaker 3: dms from Donks BC? Your weekend otherwise was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: We saw you on Showbox on Friday night. By the way,

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Speaker 3: the min event totally delivered.

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Speaker 2: Very good. That was. That was a fun fight. It

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Speaker 2: have there in Verona, New York. You had Hall of

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Speaker 2: but uh, you know, the thing is, Luke, You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't really know what the thing is, but I'm here.

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Speaker 3: How many Hall of famers did you talk to? And

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Speaker 2: Kathy Douva, That's about it.

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Speaker 3: Is Kathy Duva. Was she married to Lou Duva.

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Speaker 2: No, that was her father in law. She was married

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Speaker 2: long lines of memorabilia. Guys even asking me for autographs. Luke,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think they looked like they were like, you know,

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Speaker 3: comedian and a great television host, was wearing this version

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Speaker 2: Just didn't wasn't in the car.

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Speaker 4: No, I certainly want but that's all right, you're ready

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Speaker 2: But I really enjoyed this card. Saturday. What a wow.

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Speaker 3: I had a terrible Saturday, not like like the life

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Speaker 3: shall we? Topic number one? Let's just start with the

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Speaker 3: main event. UFC two seventy five's main event was incredible.

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Speaker 3: Yuri Prahatchka defeats Glover to Shia, although he came so

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Speaker 5: It was a It was a it was a wild

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Speaker 2: Two entering the final round. It really could have come

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Speaker 3: It's here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Glover by one point on two and

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Speaker 2: This was some bizarre, amazing shit that we saw that.

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Speaker 3: That's just not going to be the history between Glover

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Speaker 2: This is the type of fight that makes recreates or

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 2: It's just one of those you know, It's like, I

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Speaker 3: It bears more resemblance to that first Hunt and Bigfoot

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Speaker 2: It had almost a tight home, constant reversal and dramatic

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Speaker 2: think it's better than my favorite fight of all time

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Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't seen a.

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Speaker 2: Was it so great? Yes? Was it historically significant in

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Speaker 2: But does it warrant seeing it come back? Part two?

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Speaker 2: Right away? Right now? Glover wants it. I've been in

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Speaker 2: when this fight was announced again, we all had the oh,

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Speaker 2: This performance in defeat, by the way, in defeat where

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Speaker 2: I think you really do, Luke, it was that great.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're abusing it.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask the questions, see how you would answered.

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Speaker 2: I think he just outlasted Glover.

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Speaker 3: I think that's right.

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Speaker 2: I mean five rounds at that hillatious pace, with that

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Speaker 2: But damn did YERI Prohotska Because we had those questions

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Speaker 2: He showed out on the ground. He wouldn't say that

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Speaker 2: Seventeen straight wins from Pravadska. And by the way, you

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Speaker 2: names on his pre UFC run that kind of opened

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00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,159
Speaker 2: your eye and surprise you. But what if I had

434
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,040
Speaker 2: told you, Luke, and by the way, it's his ten

435
00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,239
Speaker 2: fight knockout streak ended he got a stop pitch. By

436
00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,560
Speaker 2: the way, what if I had told you that before

437
00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,440
Speaker 2: this fight that Glover to Share would get full mount

438
00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 2: two or three times and open a gnarly cut above

439
00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,280
Speaker 2: the eye of eerie that you would think, oh, this

440
00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,240
Speaker 2: fight's not gonna last another minute. And then what if

441
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,520
Speaker 2: I told you on the flip side that uh, and

442
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,040
Speaker 2: that Yuri would still win by the way, on that

443
00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,480
Speaker 2: what if I told you on the flip side that

444
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,159
Speaker 2: Glover would uh you know, get banged around, knocked down

445
00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,920
Speaker 2: a few times, get his nose busted, yet beyond the

446
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,880
Speaker 2: way to winning the fight in the final minute. I mean,

447
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 2: just it's just.

448
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,520
Speaker 3: And also, like, dude, usually when Glover gets mount, it's

449
00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 3: game over. Oh right, God, Usually he moves to mount

450
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:21,800
Speaker 3: and that's a rat.

451
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,680
Speaker 2: He rains punches down there, accurate there short, he doesn't.

452
00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,680
Speaker 3: Have you noticed, Like this fight wasn't necessarily the best

453
00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,879
Speaker 3: demonstration of that, although that last reversal that yar he

454
00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,040
Speaker 3: got was by pushing off the fence. Yes, but if

455
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 3: he has mount in typically typically if he has mount

456
00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,720
Speaker 3: in like open space, bro, it's a rap because either

457
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,800
Speaker 3: he's gonna pound on you from there his balance in

458
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,400
Speaker 3: mount is extraordinary, or they roll he gets to choke

459
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,439
Speaker 3: from the back. He can finish them there. Either, Dude,

460
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,359
Speaker 3: how many times now did he get mount but then

461
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 3: had the back of Prahadjhka and still couldn't put him away.

462
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,119
Speaker 2: And Glover's two most dominant rounds, I believe they were

463
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 2: two and three, and I have to go back and check.

464
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 3: All three judges give him one and two, and then

465
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,360
Speaker 3: one judge gave him round four.

466
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 2: The two rounds in question here, I can't remember which

467
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 2: ones they were, but he I know one of them

468
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 2: was round two. He ended it on his back, getting

469
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,640
Speaker 2: elbowed in the face with the eerie on top of him.

470
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 2: So it's like, at any moment in this fight when

471
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,119
Speaker 2: you thought you knew the direction it was going, it

472
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,400
Speaker 2: always had another twist and turn for you. And again

473
00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 2: that it's you know, two of the for now at

474
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 2: least two of the less marketable names at the moment

475
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,639
Speaker 2: in the UFC, in a pay per view card in Singapore.

476
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 2: Yet they just absolutely commanded the attention of the combat

477
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,880
Speaker 2: sports world and did that. I want to ask you now,

478
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 2: and it's something that we teased last week, what is

479
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 2: Yuri Prahatzka's you know, fan favorite must see potential now

480
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 2: after this? Because you would have to argue he might

481
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 2: have the perfect you know, video game persona, action movie

482
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 2: villain persona here with the style that goes after it.

483
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 2: He's sort of a crossover like casual fans dream, is

484
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 2: he not?

485
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 3: He is? The Only thing is if you're going to

486
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 3: be champion, obviously you have the win to keep it.

487
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 3: But to really be a breakthrough star in MMA. There

488
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 3: are a couple of exceptions to this, and then there's

489
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 3: definitely exceptions as someone becomes something else and then turns

490
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 3: into what I'm about to say. But typically, typically if

491
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 3: you really want to be a star on the UFC,

492
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 3: you've got to consistently win. Now, you could be someone

493
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 3: who consistently won, and then you can get to a

494
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 3: later stage of your career where you can be like

495
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 3: a Diaz, where yes, winning is significantly important, but you

496
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 3: can kind of fudge that a little bit. I don't

497
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 3: think Yeary is there. He's twenty nine years old, he

498
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 3: just won the belt. He's got to win. He's got

499
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 3: to win pretty significantly if he wants to be that

500
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: what you're talking about, which is that breakthrough start to

501
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 3: the next because people aren't intrigued by him. His style

502
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 3: is not really exciting, but he's got that weird mop

503
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,959
Speaker 3: on top, and he's big dude. He was huge standing

504
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 3: next to Glover when they faced off. I think it

505
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 3: was either Bes being or Cormeier was talking about Jesus Christ.

506
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 3: He looked like he was almost in another way class.

507
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 3: He was so big and dude, Glover is not a

508
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 3: small guy. We had him on the couch. He's a

509
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 3: large dude. So I think there's a lot of potential there.

510
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: But if he doesn't clean up the other parts of

511
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 3: his game, and we should talk about this in just

512
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 3: a second, I think he's gonna have problems. Namely, here's

513
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 3: what I want to bring up. The fifth round, the

514
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 3: guillotine jump from Glover. Now he was able to overcome

515
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 3: it by virtue of getting back to the mountain.

516
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 2: That was the beginning of the end.

517
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: That was such a problem. Here's my read on that

518
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: on Saturday night. Let me let me think of it.

519
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: The big key change to Glover. He did it in

520
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 3: the Blahovic fight, and he did it in this fight

521
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: with after the first minute of the first round, so

522
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 3: about four minutes left in the first round, he goes

523
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 3: for a takedown against it, did it against Bluhovich, did

524
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 3: it against YEARI, and it was wise right. We said

525
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: his game hasn't like dramatically changed or improved. It was

526
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 3: just refocused around the ground game.

527
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 2: Right.

528
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 3: He rocks Yeeri a bunch of times on the feet

529
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 3: and then jumps keillotine, and I was like, what are

530
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 3: you doing? But I thought about this, what do you

531
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 3: think he has so recentered his approach on grappling Like

532
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: the old Glover would have just gone and buried him

533
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 3: with the hands. We've seen it before, But I think

534
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: he has changed his perspective so much that he just

535
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 3: almost instinctually decided to make it a kind of ground affair,

536
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: thinking he would win. And my point is, I do

537
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: think that shifting to grappling on balance has been a

538
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 3: net win. But here's the part of that net win

539
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: that doesn't show up. In other words, this is this

540
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 3: is this is the that shift is great, but it

541
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: does come at a cost, and it cost him.

542
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: Right. It works until it works until it stops working,

543
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: and it stopped working in that moment, and it made

544
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: him look bad. It made him look like a strategic misplacement.

545
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 2: Same with you know again being the BJJ guy and

546
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: then you get tapped up by this by the striker.

547
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 2: But the fight at that point was so crazy and

548
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: I want to back up a little bit. You know

549
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 2: something that Glover told us on that couch is, you know,

550
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: back in the day, and I think he was referencing

551
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: the Rumble Johnson knock out lost he would come in

552
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: a straight line and really rely on as boxing. He

553
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: had yet to sort of make that adjustment to put

554
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: the focus back on his fundamentals on the ground. But

555
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: how good was Glover's defense for at least the first

556
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 2: two plus rounds. I mean, you know, he's got a

557
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: He's got an next heavyweight boxer for Nelli Felise Senior

558
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: in his corner and his constant head movement and covering up.

559
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: He just barely blocked so many big bombs. But then

560
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: when the fight got like real batshit crazy, he just

561
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: stopped using defense. Dude, he I mean, if he would

562
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: have won this fight, you know, they would have they

563
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: could have made a Pulpunion statute for him because it

564
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: would have been that ridiculous. He took hollacious, stiff, short

565
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 2: punches and just kept coming back. I mean he like,

566
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: how much did he pour out? How much? The Glover

567
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: to Show.

568
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 3: Books were asking like why did he tap? I tend

569
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 3: to think that, like, here's the thing, Glover knows this.

570
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: When I'm about to say Glover knows, anybody who's trained

571
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 3: for a significant amount of time would be like, yeah,

572
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: of course when you're in that position in turtle. In mma.

573
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: Let's say that was in the first thirty seconds of

574
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 3: the first round. What do you think Glover would have done? Dude,

575
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: He would have gotten into his hands and his feet

576
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: and he would have scrambled either for an underhook or

577
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 3: standing get his back along the fence. He would have

578
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: done something to not be static in that position. But

579
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 3: he was static in that position. And I think he

580
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 3: was static, yes, in part because he was beat up.

581
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: I think he was static in that position because he

582
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: was tired, and I think when the choke finally came on.

583
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: The reason why you need to control the rest of

584
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: the body is because they can move, they can scramble,

585
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: so it can be hard to get the choke. We've

586
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: seen no hook rear naked chokes. But the reason why

587
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: control is important is they always say a position before

588
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 3: submission for that reason. If you had someone super fresh

589
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: and you go for a no hook rear naked choke

590
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 3: and he didn't even have the back, it almost did

591
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: it from the side for crying out loud. There's a

592
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: good chance they're going to scramble out of it. It's gonna

593
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: be hard to keep I think he had nothing left. Absolutely,

594
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: I think he had a handle. And I don't say

595
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: that for Jordan of the want to be very clear.

596
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: I think he gave everything he had and the dude

597
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: Yerie just had one little piece more and that was

598
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: all that means.

599
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: If YEARI wasn't the real deal. There were many many

600
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: parts in that fight that he could have been over common.

601
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: So to see Yeeri come through that is just amazing.

602
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: But I fear that Glover poured everything out. I fear

603
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 2: that that, you know, that that's the end of him.

604
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: It was good to see him.

605
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: Say he also made that miscalculation. It wasn't just that

606
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: that miscalculation cop and.

607
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: Pace they fought out just a stupid pace by the

608
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 2: end of it. But you know, to see Glover afterwards

609
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: be like that, I look forty two. No, I'm going

610
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: to keep fighting. He very well can keep fighting, I mean,

611
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: and you can. I mean, look some of the things

612
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: he got he got through in this fight to reverse

613
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 2: his position and reverse the momentum. I remember saying myself

614
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: like this might be the best version of him ever.

615
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: That's what dude.

616
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: He's like, he's so much better now than he was

617
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: at thirty five, in the midst of his original walk

618
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: to the title against John you know, in that run

619
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: he's I mean, you know, he didn't necessarily look this

620
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: great even four or five fights ago. Whatever he did

621
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: to clean up everything right, to make his game more efficient,

622
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: to change the way he trains, to everything, I mean,

623
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: it is just it's a perfect storm something.

624
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: You know.

625
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: It's rare that it happens in combat sports for somebody

626
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: to kind of put it together this late and find

627
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: the best of themselves at this age. But not only

628
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: was that the best of him for the most part

629
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: throughout that fight. How much more can he do, Luke,

630
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: because because would he retired were the win if you know,

631
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: if he got that win, would if he were retired

632
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: b the anything.

633
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I think he'd probably still feel

634
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: the same, like I felt pretty good. To your point,

635
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: Do you tell me which rise to a title shot

636
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: is better? From the UFC he beat Kyle Kingsbury, He

637
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: submissioned his arm triangle. By the way, how about that

638
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: arm triangle he nearly got as well, Dude Glover. Glover

639
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: pulled out like all the greatest Glover hits, the move

640
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: to him mount, the punishment from out the head and

641
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: arm triangle, all the things he's known for. Still couldn't

642
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 3: get it done. So he beat Kyle Kingsbury, Fabio Maldonado,

643
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: I would say, a fairly diminished quick rampage Jackson via

644
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: decision James Tahuna, and then he tk O'Bryan Bader. Okay,

645
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: now that's a pretty good run. That's actually a very

646
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: good run.

647
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: And then he had built a second run until the

648
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: Rumble knockout right, uh sort of.

649
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: He beat Ovid StatET, Prue, Patrick Cummins, then were shot.

650
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: Then he lost to Anthony Ubble Johnson. Then it was

651
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: up and down for a while, but then he beat Roberson,

652
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: Kute Lava Krilov, then Smith, then Santos, then Blahovich and

653
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: again He's doing that at a much later age with

654
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: more advanced fighters relative to what they were back at

655
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: the time which he was doing it. It's fucking impressive, dude, Glover,

656
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 3: to share a you know, dude, he was staying here.

657
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: He said it sort of very simply like I train

658
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: a lot of jiu jitsu because I love it. Dude.

659
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: It has paid off, and he has paid off dramatically.

660
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: Excuse me, gona get this straight. Are they in your

661
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 2: ear about it? No? No, I could just feel it

662
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: bubbling up. I don't want you know, we always we

663
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: have soundish, so I don't want to make the people upset.

664
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I forgot where I was going to

665
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: go there with Glover, but you know, it was very

666
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: prosate the run to the title, but you know what

667
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 2: he was all to see him. I can't believe at

668
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: this age that he can have that. You know, he

669
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: got rocked against Maheta but figured it out and came back.

670
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: That's almost becoming part of his like strategy and like

671
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's like how long can that last? Well, dude,

672
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: Like he took that damage incredibly well in this fight, Luke, Dude,

673
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm looking at them, but seriously, like he was rocked,

674
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: he was bloodied, he was knocked down. It never looked

675
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: like he was close to going though, Like it was

676
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: really a next level? Was that there all along and

677
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: he just never had to use it? Luke, whow.

678
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 3: He may have had a great night, It's hard to say.

679
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 3: I mean he did have a great now, but I mean, like,

680
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: relatively speaking, there is I don't know, that's a great question.

681
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: I haven't really thought too much about that. I don't know.

682
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: But I'm looking at the numbers for this fight and

683
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: it was just absolutely bonkers. Five takedowns in this fight.

684
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: How about this? Two submission attempts. Feels like there was more,

685
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: but they counted as too. Six reversals, six reversals, a

686
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: total of about not quite a little under five hundred

687
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: strikes thrown at each other. Dude, You're just not going

688
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: to see a stat line like that for a fight

689
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: this significant, which with two fighters relatively speaking, this advanced

690
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: in the UFC. Maybe ever, it's extremely rare, and it's

691
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: like a bantamweight stat line, right, that's what it feels.

692
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: I cannot believe Prasco is able to constantly reverse them

693
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: on the ground. I cannot believe that. Will this fight

694
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: make the Hall of Fame under there the way they do?

695
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Because here's the thing. If I think they

696
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: were looking for a reason to put Glover in anyway,

697
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: because he's been a company man and he's okay, but.

698
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: Let's draw that line. If you get in for a

699
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: fight you're not in the Hall of Fame. I know

700
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: that that's a blurred line. And people say, oh, there's

701
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: UFC Hall of Famer Diego Sanchez. I'm not saying Diego

702
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: Stanchaz couldn't make the Hall of Fame. I'm saying he's

703
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: not in just because of that fight against Gil.

704
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if I agree with that. I mean,

705
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 3: if they if they give you a jacket and the.

706
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: Ceremony, they put you in for the fight you co authored.

707
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: They didn't put you in for your career. That's what

708
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

709
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: That's a different way of getting into the Hall of Fame.

710
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: Or you're saying if you get in under a fight,

711
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: it's the same thing as being in as.

712
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's the same thing, but I

713
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't deny them their place.

714
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, this is a Hall of Fame. Plus, here's

715
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: the thing.

716
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't like you know, for example, Kep Swanson and

717
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: the Korean Superboy Phenomenal fight for all the reasons that

718
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: it's going to go in that this was for a title,

719
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: This was for a this was this was the headline

720
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 3: of a pay per view. This is a little bit

721
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: more significant and also did it really felt like not

722
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: quite changing of the guard, but you had this guy

723
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: who represented this long standing era of MMA against this new,

724
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: upstart era of MMA, and neither is a perfect fit

725
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: for the old age or the new coming of age.

726
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 3: They're not exactly the perfect avatars for that. But it

727
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: did feel a little bit like the push and the

728
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: tension between the old guard and the new guard happening there.

729
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: You were talking about Yeri's potential and his popularity future.

730
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: Do you like the Tony Ferguson comparison? A lot of

731
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: people make it? Really why not?

732
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Tony's game is different, He's He's just a

733
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: little bit different and unique in terms of his weird

734
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: persona and the willingness to take on pain and almost

735
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: loving it and all that.

736
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: What do you see as the comparison. It's not that

737
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: I made it. I just see a lot of people

738
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: make it.

739
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean, nearly to me is his own unique sort

740
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: of like mythical cartoon figure come to life, and he's

741
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: an all or nothing slugger who yeah, maybe he needs

742
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: to alter that a bit, but got really damn far

743
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: with that, actually won a championship at the highest levels.

744
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: So no, I kind of look at him as his

745
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: own thing. And that's why I think he has a

746
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: chance to be everyone's favorite fighter after this. How I mean, look,

747
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: while people came in with the romanticism and love for

748
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Glover and dude, he want us over on the couch.

749
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: Believe me, I love me some Glover to share a

750
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: you have to exit this going. Not only do I

751
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: want to see ery Prohatska again, but like how much

752
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: does the merch cost? You know what I mean? Like?

753
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Can I have a party at my house next time

754
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: he fights? Like, I think he has a shot to

755
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: become that type of dude, and not necessarily like an

756
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Artorogdiars or something like that, but because again he's his

757
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: own unique sort of force and character. But dude, if

758
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: they were selling jerseys like this is the NBA, I

759
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 2: think his jersey sales are spiking after this. Leave.

760
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: Uh who do you favor in the rematch yary? I'm interesting.

761
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna ask Glover to do that a

762
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: second time? You're gonna ask him to do it on

763
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: that same level a second time. I don't know.

764
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: Glover's capable of some pretty smart adjustments.

765
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Glover, but Glover was in full mount multiple times and

766
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: nearly had Yurian submissions and it didn't work. And I

767
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: get every fighter is in its own sort of separate

768
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: chapter and story. Could Glover win a rematter of course,

769
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: but you gotta favor the younger fighter who just outlasted him,

770
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: proved he could take all the threats, got taken down,

771
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: no problem, got his eye cut open really bad, no problem, dude.

772
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: Year dude, Yeeri Prahotzka's style, as we talked about, is

773
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: so willing to take on damage that there's going to

774
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: be a short life for his prime, for his top level,

775
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: top of the mountain prime. But he's there, and I

776
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: don't know who's going to beat him. It's one of

777
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: those things where it's like anyone could beat him because

778
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: he takes big chances. But now that we know that

779
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: he has that type of backbone cardio ability to get

780
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: out of bad situations on the ground against an expert. Seriously, dude,

781
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: all of this refurbished to one hundred and five pound division,

782
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't know who's going to beat him.

783
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: So one interesting point, and then I want I want

784
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: to ask you a question about it, like one of

785
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: the things that's going to make you actually, how popular

786
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: could it be? One thing I didn't mention. I'd like

787
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: to bring it up now he actually has something of

788
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: a good style to be popular. What do I mean?

789
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: It's one thing when you have just overwhelming damage and force,

790
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 3: like what Anderson Silva did when he announced himself to

791
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: UFC fans by beating Chris Leeban. Obviously if people who

792
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: were familiar with in Pride weren't as surprised, but that was,

793
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: you know, one way. Traffic can also build a star,

794
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: Ronda Rausi, for example. But some of the people that

795
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: become the most lovable and can become sustaining stars are

796
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: the ones that get hit a little bit, right They

797
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: the defense allows the fight. That'll actually say the lack

798
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: of defense allows the fight to be otherwise more exciting

799
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: than it would. Plus he has dynamic offense behind that. Right.

800
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: If you can get hit a little bit and then

801
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: hit a lot, that actually makes for a pretty compelling product.

802
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. Can you think of

803
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: anyone in boxing who is kind of like RII know

804
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: Eur is his own man, but what I mean to

805
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: say is has the capacity to be durable, got hit

806
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: a noticeable amount, maybe not as much as YERI, but

807
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: got hit a noticeable amount, but had resilience and dynamic

808
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: firepower back. Somebody that really stands out for that.

809
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think somebody. So somebody that style makes

810
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: them a little bit vulnerable. They're maybe not masters that

811
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: traditional technique in perfection, yet we're able to get to

812
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: the absolute highest level because of their the strengths they

813
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: do have. I don't I don't again, I don't think

814
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 2: there's a perfect comparison in this case. I think that

815
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: makes him super unique and could he be a star, absolutely,

816
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: and could anybody beat him? Yes, with the recklessness like

817
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: I said, but look, if he's gonna as long as

818
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: he can stay on the top of this mountain, it's

819
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: gonna be hard to beat him. Gaff and our Air

820
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: saying Michelle Padata is somewhat comparable in that in that regard.

821
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: If he's not a champion, no, he's not. Man he

822
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: has changed the style significantly over time.

823
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 2: And so does this Senttel any kind of debate as

824
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: who is the best two hundred and five pound fighter

825
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: in the world right now?

826
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: Because I don't think that it does.

827
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: Because he did beat them cough. Now, granted you know

828
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: back what twenty fifteen or something else.

829
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: Oh you mean, I'm sorry, you mean like globally. Yeah,

830
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: do you know. I'd be curious to see what Cory

831
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: Anderson could do because the takedown vulnerabilities man, dude Glover

832
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: was having a lot of success with him, a lot

833
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: of success or obviously earlier than a little bit later,

834
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: but even later he was able to get him as well.

835
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: Corey Anderson is phenomenal from half Guard. He has good,

836
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: accurate ground and pound. He has a vicious gasnak. But

837
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: here's the problem, Corey Anderson, I don't think he has

838
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: a batch in, but I don't know if he has

839
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 3: the very best one I've ever seen. And again, for

840
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: all the fucking damage that year he takes, his capacity

841
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: to dish it out and then persevere and presence of

842
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: mind is remarkable, truly remarkable. I think the big I

843
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: think the big question for me going forward to me

844
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: when I asked about like who would win the rematch?

845
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: I really want to see what this does to your restyle. Yeah,

846
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: because I think he can reign for a little while

847
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: even with what he's got, but if he doesn't change

848
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: whatever the ultimate upside is. And however, long it's going

849
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: to be that will be shortened by virtual change.

850
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: Is Glover's punch resistance going to be compromised to some

851
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: degree if they do a remach comparative to what he

852
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: showed the first one? I think it has. It has

853
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: to age grind. I mean, it's just in these cases,

854
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: when it's that close, you gotta go with the younger

855
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: lion who's coming on for the most part. So I

856
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: think it's deserving. I hope they match it next. Who

857
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: who do you think gets the next shot?

858
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: A lot of people were asking me about, like, how

859
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: was is he against Yerie?

860
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: I had a bunch that's becoming a lot of people

861
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: tweeting at us.

862
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: It never even occurred to me to think about that.

863
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: I was just I mean, I'm not to say it's

864
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: not a relevant question. I suppose that it is. It

865
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: just wasn't where my mind was. I was thinking more like,

866
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: how is your going to do against potentially on Calia

867
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: if that's one of the matchups they end up making,

868
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: or potentially Anthony Smith if they go that way, depending

869
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: on right.

870
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: Because we were sort of when we talked ahead of

871
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: this fight as to who should get the next one,

872
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: we were saying the same thing. If I'm Calia or

873
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: Smith looked great against one another, if who's.

874
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: Rackets fighting, he got injured, so that was out.

875
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's kind of out of it now. I'm

876
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 2: wondering now that you bring up that Izzy point, if

877
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: the decision is not to go directly into a Glover

878
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: rematch and save it a bit. If Izzy gets by

879
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: Cannoneer without issue.

880
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 3: Oh, Bellhovich would be the other one.

881
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh Blokhovich is knocking on that door, and he was

882
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: in the crowd and they had some words, and we'll

883
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: see that and have you seen this shit? Great point.

884
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: You could go Belhovich next, and I don't think anyone's

885
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: going to argue, especially since they did kind of have

886
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: some jawing there. But the promotion does like to go big,

887
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: given what is he's done at light heavyweight, given that

888
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: he fought Blakhovich went and he did challenge for the

889
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: two of five title very well, but learn some lessons

890
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: of how he has to change not do you think

891
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: the fight should be next? Do you think the promotion

892
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: would want Izzy if he gets through cannon Air next

893
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: to cut the line again? He might?

894
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 3: They might. I mean, here's the thing like this was

895
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: my initial reaction on Saturday and night. Tell me if

896
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: you disagree. My initial reaction was on the feet, on

897
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: the feet, I think, is he lights him on fire?

898
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: But on fire?

899
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, is he's so.

900
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: The reason why? Yes, But here's why I want to count.

901
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 3: He's gonna be faster.

902
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: But here's why I want to counter that on the

903
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: feet were just be clear, we're just talking about on

904
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: the feet against you all. Ramerow. When Romero landed that

905
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: kick in round one, which was like the only strike

906
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: that really landed in that first round of that weird fight, dude,

907
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: is he didn't like that? You know? And I think

908
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 2: that that didn't take a lot of damage. That's right, right,

909
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: So the threat of Yeari's unpredictability like Yoel who does

910
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: the same kind of you know mirrors.

911
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: Oh could it slow him down and make him a

912
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: little more reserved?

913
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: It completely slowed him down? All right?

914
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: Fair points, So let me doal back a little.

915
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: Bit so I can't see him just picking apart YEARI

916
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: because YEARI has eight eight. No, because Yuri presents a

917
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: stance that you can't loosely do that too, because he's

918
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: right in your face he's got his chin out, but

919
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: he's also right there.

920
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: You ever seen fight, I'm just curious.

921
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Okay, dude, but I saw Romero freeze him by landing

922
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: one strike.

923
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Romero is entirely out, Dude, Romero.

924
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: Has Now we're at two five against one of the

925
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: most dangerous knockout guys in the game.

926
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: Romero never almost This has changed a little bit. But

927
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: in that fight and in that era of when he

928
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: was fighting, it was at that stage I should say, Uh,

929
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: it was one way and one way. He was super defensive,

930
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: super defensive, and then would have offense after that. He

931
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: doesn't mix it, dude, Yari mixes the shit out of him.

932
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: It's a completely different fighter. I get your point. I

933
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: do agree a little bit. I Like I said, I'll

934
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: dial back a little bit, which is to say, do

935
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 3: I think that is he could be reserved enough to

936
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: not have fully dynamic offense out of concern for the reach,

937
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: the explosion, the power. Yes, but in terms of who

938
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: would land more and who would land more significally, I

939
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: would heavily favre right.

940
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: But think about it, when is he can get in

941
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: the flow state against someone level of a Vittore or

942
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: a Paulo coast that's different. Then he's just putting it

943
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: on you. I don't know if he ever fully gets

944
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: into that spot against against Yeri, or at least it's

945
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: going to take a while for him to become comfortable

946
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: because he's really got to take that power.

947
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: And see here's here's the one challenge I would say

948
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: for Izzy is the size of Yuri.

949
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he is enormous.

950
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: He is so big, and so if a guy like

951
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: Belokovich can show that the weight class difference is significant,

952
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: you can. I mean, if Yuri had a more takedown

953
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 3: oriented game, which is going to say that he would

954
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: always get the takedown, but he could slow it down,

955
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: he could do damage there. And again he's unpredictable in

956
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: those spaces. Who knows what he's coming with like he

957
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: did against Reyes. That to me is the very interesting

958
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: and challenging part. At distance, I'm gonna just sort of

959
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: lean towards Izzy, but all the other variables are hard

960
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: to account I.

961
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: Think they go on next Luke, I really do.

962
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's probably the right I think usually

963
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: after Uncle I have beat Santos, but kind of.

964
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: And you're not asking Glover to rush back into this

965
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: after that type of fun.

966
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: No, he needs some time off. He earned it, he

967
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: earned it, He earned it. All right, Let's move on

968
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: to the second fight on the card. That was just

969
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't as incredible, but pretty relevant, pretty important. Valentina

970
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: Chevchenko retains her Flyway title by defeating Tyler Santos via

971
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: I think it was split decision. Okay, BC, how'd you

972
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: score it? Number one? And what is the biggest story

973
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 3: from this fight?

974
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: Okay? I think the biggest story isn't the scoring. That's

975
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: the second biggest story. I scored at three rounds to

976
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: two for Valentina, and the key swing round there is

977
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: round two. Get I get when you're watching a fight

978
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: like this and you see her do very little offensively

979
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: in the first three rounds, and you see her in

980
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: rounds one and two in particular on her back, naturally

981
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 2: you're like, well, Tyler Santos dictated the terms of this fight.

982
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: But this is something I got caught into at times,

983
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: bringing a boxing scoring mentality into the MMA game. Luke,

984
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: we know it's about damage at the end of the day.

985
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: So when we're going with that way, round two cannot

986
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: be for Tyler Santos I'm sorry, Valentina got the best

987
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: of it on the feet. When Valentino was down, she

988
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 2: was way more active from the bottom, landing strikes over

989
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: her head during the choke attempts, and she briefly had

990
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: a triangle choke on. So there was a submission threat there,

991
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: Santos was, so you can get me on the terms.

992
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: I heard it both ways, but so you know, when

993
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: you're in this point in round two, you took me

994
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 2: off track there. What I'm trying to say is, oh,

995
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: and Tyler was so inactive that God had actually stood

996
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: her up after warning multiple times. So round one, so

997
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: there's one judge that gave it forty nine forty six

998
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: and right away ahead, right away, Luke, when you hear

999
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: forty nine to forty six, you go, oh, okay, you

1000
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: know the champ got the wrong you know it is

1001
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: hers song. You're right, yeah, the you know, how could

1002
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: you do it four to one? But let's be fair,

1003
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: even round one, which I scored to Tyler, but it

1004
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: was a lot closer than people realized. Luke, you don't

1005
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: get credit for taking someone down and doing nothing. You

1006
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: don't get over credit for that. I want to and

1007
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: I don't think she was offensive at all in those

1008
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: two rounds for the most part.

1009
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm telling you, skeptical hippo.

1010
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So I scored round one for her, but I

1011
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 2: could see where a judge could be watching that under

1012
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: the actual letters of the law of how the scoring

1013
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: is written, and say, you know what, I give her

1014
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: round one two, but I gave it three rounds to two.

1015
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: Because I gave Valentine a round two. I'd urge you

1016
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: to watch round two, knowing how the rules actually are,

1017
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: and score that for Santos Luke. She did nothing with

1018
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: the position at all. So let's credit Valentina for rallying.

1019
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: But what do I think is the biggest story in

1020
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: this fight that Valentina is a superhero, but she's human

1021
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: and even people like me need to slow the roll

1022
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: a bit in the right matchup, as we saw somebody

1023
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: with physicality like Jennifer Maya had who had certain levels

1024
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: of success, taken Valentina down. Wasn't able to turn that

1025
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: into offense like Tylia wasn't. But if you're big, you

1026
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: can take on damage. And let's give Santo's credit that

1027
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: head button round three, which I do believe changed the

1028
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: tenor of this fight. It forced Santos into a survival

1029
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: mode for at least another round and a half. I

1030
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: do think that had but broke her order robone. So

1031
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: she had to be crazy tough to put on that performance.

1032
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: And let's give her credit. She took Valentina down and

1033
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: humanized her. Luke, there is a hole in Valentina's game.

1034
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: As much as we love her offensive wrestling against andrage,

1035
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: to completely neutralize her now, that is two opponents who

1036
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: opened up a potential lane to victory and in this

1037
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: case made it way too close for comfort. Valentina So

1038
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: to the letter of the law, I believe she wanted it,

1039
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: to the letter of the law. Two of the three

1040
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: judges believed she wanted it, despite people at home, and

1041
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: I get why, saying they thought it was Santos. But

1042
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: I didn't love how nonchalant Valentino was after the fact.

1043
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: How very Aldo versus Korean zombie.

1044
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, how like, you know, how else would you score it? Now,

1045
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: she didn't say that, And I'm not saying that there's

1046
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: not some mixture of like nerves, you know, like relief

1047
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: that she didn't get the loss, mixed with embarrassment. I

1048
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on, but she was very much like, oh, yeah,

1049
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: I did what I had to do and I won

1050
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: the fight. No, that was very very close with the

1051
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: other fighter having an argument to victory, the other fighter

1052
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: winning one of three scorecards, when in reality ability to ability, Luke,

1053
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they were that close. When Valentina had

1054
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: to put her foot on the gas and put it

1055
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: on her offensively, she was able to do that. She

1056
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: was she exposed to some degree compared to the letter

1057
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: of perfection that we're comparing her to. Yes, she was

1058
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: exposed a little bit and came back.

1059
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: Down to earth.

1060
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Luke.

1061
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at the scorecards here. The only scorecard all

1062
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 3: three judges gave Santos was round three. Yes, uh, David,

1063
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: let the bee again. I don't have my glasses. I apologize.

1064
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: He gave the first three rounds to Santos, the last

1065
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 3: two to Valentina. Clemens, I think it's Werner. But Werner

1066
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: he is a very good judge. He gave four. That's

1067
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: the forty nine to forty six. So all the folks

1068
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: being like, oh, how can the judges do it? I

1069
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: would argue, the very best of the three gave it

1070
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: forty nine.

1071
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: And again we watched round one. That's that's also in

1072
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: consideration as a flip flop.

1073
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Howard Hughes gave rounds one in three

1074
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 3: to Santos, which is justified I think in my view,

1075
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: and then rounds two, four, and five. So let me

1076
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: say a couple of things here. I totally agree with

1077
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: you about listen. I saw something kind of interesting when

1078
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: her face was broken, and I remember that they let

1079
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: her go out for the fourth round. I tweeted. I

1080
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: was like, at the end of the fourth because at

1081
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: that point it was swell xbox she and she looked

1082
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: like she had been stung by a bee or something.

1083
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: She I'm surprised she finished the fight.

1084
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 3: I'm serious.

1085
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: So because she looked she looked like she was ready

1086
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: to quit. And I don't mean that in the disparaging way.

1087
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: I mean like she had a broken eye.

1088
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: Would it literally looked like she was doing this? Yes,

1089
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: like the whole time she couldn't do anything like popeye

1090
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 3: out there something.

1091
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: But she also didn't get taken advantage of it. And

1092
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: this was a Valentina rallying, so Santo's So is it

1093
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: did Santos over at chieve on toughness or did Valentina

1094
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: come back down to earth her a little bit of bold.

1095
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: I think, little bit of both. I think the thing

1096
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: I was gonna say was for me. The UFC has

1097
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: a job to promote fighters, and they promote them a

1098
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: certain way. And Chief Chenko has had a few wins,

1099
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: like the amazing win of her eye and then the

1100
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: arm bar of pain, and there's been some other ones

1101
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 3: as well that have been dramatic and important and impactful,

1102
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: and they have turned her into something that she's not.

1103
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: What I mean by that is they've tried to present

1104
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 3: her as like a superhero. She's perfect, she's a knockout machine.

1105
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: Well she's not perfect, and she's not a knockout machine.

1106
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: She is an incredibly talented, deserving champion, but she's a

1107
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 3: human being. And there's been a little bit of buying

1108
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: into the mythology that people have sold her.

1109
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: I've been begging that, Drummond. I got to you can

1110
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: take my sticks to it, and here's a great yeah,

1111
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna bang with my hands now, gotta.

1112
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: Be the deaf leopard with I'm sorry you set it

1113
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: up for me. It was what it was. But the

1114
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 3: point I wanted to make me see is I saw

1115
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: something that fans do a lot, which was at the

1116
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 3: end of the fourth round. By the way, how about

1117
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: that ringside physician being like, yeah, she could see? Fuck it.

1118
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: I was like, remind me to never get metal Portuguese.

1119
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: I think he was just so he literally looked at

1120
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: and he goes, can you see? What is she going

1121
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: to say for it? She's like, yeah, I can see. Meanwhile,

1122
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, can't you see? Yeah, I can see.

1123
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, fuck it, let it roll.

1124
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: But the point I.

1125
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Wanted to make was I saw some I tweeted being like, dude,

1126
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: that was really worried for her health because if you

1127
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: get it broken, it can infect your eyesight permanently. Rememberabilly

1128
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 3: Joe Saunders after he got hit with the Canelo shot

1129
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: and they had to go into the They had to

1130
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: pull the eyeball out at the doctor's for a surgery,

1131
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 3: reconstruct the inside of the socket, then put the eye

1132
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 3: back in and it changed everything. Do that will change

1133
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: your career, It could change your quality of life. And

1134
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: I was saying to myself, like Jesus Christ, this is

1135
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: really dangerous. And I saw people being like, oh, it'd

1136
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: be a shame if this fight was stopped. No, it

1137
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: was a shame that the fight continued. Actually, I credit

1138
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: Santos and her toughness. I believe in that, and I

1139
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: understand her team's perspective as well, being like she literally

1140
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 3: might never get here again. I understand that. But from

1141
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: a medical standpoint, you got to treat these guys not

1142
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: as superheroes, not as invincible machines. They are humans. They

1143
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: have frail and fragile biology and we have to take

1144
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 3: that in to consideration, and also they're imperfect creatures. But

1145
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: here's what I want to say. I actually think the

1146
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: forty nine to forty six scorecard is entirely justifiable based

1147
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: on the current scoring criteria. I also believe that forty

1148
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: eight forty seven for Chef Tanko was or I should

1149
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: say two rounds for Santos is justifiable if and by

1150
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: the way, did you see what Chefchenko said afterwards? We

1151
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: always talk about how these fighters and these coaches and

1152
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: these managers and these luminaries as commentators never seem to

1153
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 3: know the scoring criteria. But when she was asked about

1154
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: Joe Rogans, well just been fairness up to you see

1155
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 3: that clipping question though, Oh where were you talking?

1156
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: To Algebin where Joe, Yeah, where Joe was like, I

1157
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: know all these changes.

1158
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: It's like, bro, this change has been around, so Obama

1159
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: was in office. The fuck you're talking about? All right?

1160
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: But the point I want to make was Chifchenko got

1161
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: out there at the PostBar press conference and was like, look,

1162
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: damage is the name of the game. She appears to

1163
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: understand what the scoring criteria is. And again, you can

1164
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: like the scoring criteria or you cannot like it, but

1165
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: if you're going to have to fight under it, it's

1166
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: best to know what it is. But here is one

1167
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: point I wanted to make BC. I believe that the

1168
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: scoring criteria as it's currently implemented, why did the Association

1169
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: of Boxing Commissions do it the way that they did

1170
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: and why did other states adopted? Because they needed a

1171
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: coherent system by which judges could make a proper evaluation

1172
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: of what was happening in a contest. They tried to

1173
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: make an assessment from a value standpoint about what they

1174
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: thought was important and what was not as important, and

1175
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: they tried to create a hierarchy around that, and I

1176
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: think that they achieved that. But this is what I

1177
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: wanted to say, BC. I think they've gone a little farm,

1178
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: all right. They have turned grappling from what the equivalent

1179
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: in grappling would be from a points based system where

1180
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: you get points for a takedown, points for a pass,

1181
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: points for a back take it, and then they went

1182
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: all the way to like sub only, where at a

1183
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: sub only tournament, literally the only thing that matters is

1184
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: to sub. Let me make a point. I don't know

1185
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: how relevant it would be in this particular fight, and

1186
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: I will agree with you. Santo's had the back for

1187
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: several rounds, but in three of those rounds she had

1188
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: single digit strike.

1189
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 2: Outstruck because dude Valentino was landing so flush over her head,

1190
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: and it actually made Santos stop trying.

1191
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: To let me depose a scenario. Let's say it's relatively

1192
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: even ish on the feet. Maybe you're the slight better

1193
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: of me, right, rock my head back one time, but

1194
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: it is relatively even. But I take you down and

1195
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: I take your back, and I don't get close with

1196
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 3: the submission. It's hardfe to land meaningful ground to pound.

1197
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: Under the current rule set, you would probably win. And

1198
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: again if the judge scored it that way, I would

1199
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: understand it. But to me, that is not the proper

1200
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: way to sign.

1201
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't like the over correction.

1202
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: We have turned grappling into sub only grappling in MMA,

1203
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: and I of course, and you can do damage with

1204
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: your fists as well, obviously, but in terms of the

1205
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: grappling part of it too, let me explain something to you.

1206
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: If I take you down, take your back, and I

1207
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: neutralize you, I have put you in a near, not only,

1208
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: but a near perfectly defensive position. I have the only

1209
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: position in all of MMA where I have asymmetry. You

1210
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: are facing one way and I have your back. That

1211
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: is in a extremely difficult thing to obtain, which I'm

1212
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: not saying you should have word the difficulty of it.

1213
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 3: But if I can put you in a situation where

1214
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: you have to survive for three minutes and you can

1215
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: meaningfully not do much. Now, granted, if you're landing those

1216
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: kinds of things, that changes it. But if I had

1217
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: risk control, let's say, and I was going for the

1218
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: throat or whatever, that should be counted more than the

1219
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: rules house. I think we have majorly over if.

1220
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: We were corrected from the land prey John Fitch era,

1221
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: where that was a style of winning and it was

1222
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: like beat that. So we've over corrected to the degree

1223
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: where it takes it away, Like if you ask me

1224
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: who would there's a tie break. There's an unofficial tie

1225
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 2: breaker when scoring in boxing, and a lot of people

1226
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: use Max Kullorman made it very public who would you

1227
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: rather be? Now? I disagree with that under the boxing terms,

1228
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: because what that means is, look, if somebody lands one

1229
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: big punch against me, but not enough to take momentum

1230
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: of the round, and I hit them with you know,

1231
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: twenty five jabs and body shots, who would I rather be? Well,

1232
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't want to get punched hard in

1233
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: the face one time, but I would rather be the

1234
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: guy who scored more often. So it doesn't always work

1235
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: in boxing because it over emphasizes damage and maybe the

1236
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: minimal landing of big shots. But looking at that, under

1237
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: this who would you rather be? Tell a Santos and

1238
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: Ron's one, two, and three. She controlled the terms by

1239
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: taking Chefchenko away from her more dominant position, which is

1240
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: on the feet, put her in terms on her back

1241
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: and uncomfortable situations, took her back to what you're saying,

1242
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 2: who would I rather be? Of course that's why everyone

1243
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: texted me and everyone's tweeting at home is like, oh

1244
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: my god, three nothing Santos, because visually it's telling you

1245
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: that person is winning the fight, but you score it

1246
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: to the letter of the law, and to your point,

1247
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: the letter of the law, and this case is wrong.

1248
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 3: It's over corrected.

1249
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: There needs to be a middle ground, just as there

1250
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: needs to be a different scoring system in the ten

1251
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: to nine boxing system that they just adopted with you

1252
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: longer rounds and different elements involved. Let me spin this

1253
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: to you, though, because I don't exactly know the complete

1254
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: rule set in MA in terms of I know in boxing,

1255
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: if it's a twelve round championship fight, once you get

1256
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: past the fourth round, the fight is official, So if

1257
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: there's an accidental fall, it would be a technical decision.

1258
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: We go to the scorecard one here after the fourth.

1259
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: After the fourth. Interesting, so in the third the I gets,

1260
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: so the I gets. Apparently the headbutts started was in

1261
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: round one that caused the eye, but it didn't show

1262
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: damage really until the end of round three. But round

1263
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: four she opened up with basically it looked like it's closed.

1264
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: That's also when Cheffchenko completely rallied. But if they had

1265
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: stopped the fight early in that round before it.

1266
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: Would have gone to the scorecards, which would have made

1267
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: it Let's see, you would have had Santo's a head

1268
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 3: on one on the other, Yeah, she would want to split.

1269
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: Santos would have want to split.

1270
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: So here's what's crazy. And I was thinking about this

1271
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: in the moment in Chef Tchenko's mind. If she really

1272
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: does know all the rules in the scoring and how

1273
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: it works, she's got to realize that she needs to

1274
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: rally back. A stoppage would fix everything, right. But if

1275
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: she batters Santo's too much and in the Kate side,

1276
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: doctor or the ref conspired to stop the fight, then

1277
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: they would go to the scorecards and it could be

1278
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 2: a situation where she could be losing. So she wants

1279
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: to have big success. She'd love to set up a finish,

1280
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: but there is a middle gray area in there where

1281
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: she could actually cause the fight to stop and cause

1282
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: herself to lose. To me, there's just something not right there.

1283
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: When you were the idea of doing everything you can

1284
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: to win could run you into a loss. It's just

1285
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: it's right. It's the way it worked out. And I

1286
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: think it's weird in that regard to maybe.

1287
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: If you're relying on your opponent to kind of do

1288
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: you a favor.

1289
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, to some degree. So that's just weird to begin

1290
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: with in hindsight, knowing that it's a broken orbbal bone

1291
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: and seeing how much Santos was compromising. By the way,

1292
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: let's give her so much credit because in round five

1293
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: she came alive again. Do you think Chefchenko kind of

1294
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: deserves some negative points for not being able to finish

1295
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: someone that compromised.

1296
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 3: I think she well, she had a foot injury, remember that,

1297
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 3: So she didn't do her her dancer. It's like Liz

1298
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: Ginka dance or whatever the fuck you pronounced it. She

1299
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: didn't do herself.

1300
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: I think it's cool.

1301
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 3: I think that's the supplement I gave you earlier. But

1302
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 3: the point I want to make was she didn't she

1303
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: wasn't able to do her dance. And I think part

1304
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: of that was actually attributed to the fact that she

1305
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: had trouble moving and she noticed she is always very

1306
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: economical with her motion. She was like standing like a

1307
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: stone in this one, and I think part of that

1308
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: was was a thing. One last note about the grap Wait.

1309
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: Wait, you're not taking anything away from from that, And.

1310
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: Like, like I never bought into the chefchenko mythology.

1311
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: But do you think she handled the adversity well, meaning

1312
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: she went into a more offensive mode.

1313
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 3: She played it she played it safe. But I don't

1314
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 3: say that. People think, all she played it safe, But oh,

1315
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: that's like that's what a coward does. No, that's what

1316
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: a rational thinking fighter who has a lot to lose.

1317
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: This was history if she beat Santo's. But she did,

1318
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: that was going to put her past Ronda Rousi for

1319
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 3: most he of defenses in women's UFC history too. That's big.

1320
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: But she didn't have major urgency in the last She

1321
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: played it.

1322
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: She played it safe. She played it safe in that sense,

1323
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't. I personally don't have an

1324
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: issue with it. But one last thing about the grappling

1325
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: that I want folks to really just absorb for a second.

1326
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: This new way of judging, which has been around for

1327
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: a little while, but I think when I say new,

1328
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 3: I mean it finally is dawning on people that judges

1329
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 3: are doing this, and then there needs to be a

1330
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: bit of a catch up. The thing that I am

1331
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: worried about is I don't exactly know what effect it's

1332
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: going to have. Once all the corners become to be

1333
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: aware of it, once all the fighters become aware of it,

1334
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: and once there's a general awareness. But this is what

1335
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: the judges are looking for. I can't say the BC.

1336
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit worried. If you're looking at this

1337
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: and you're just a fighter evaluating it, you're going to say,

1338
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: what is the value in?

1339
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: Really?

1340
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: Because grappling is hard, so it takes a lot of work,

1341
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: takes a lot of years to master. It's very very

1342
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: difficult if you're telling I mean, I could take someone's

1343
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: back and be not really close with the submission, and

1344
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 3: I can't get off that much offense because I'm somewhat locked.

1345
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: Let's say with the body triangle that this is essentially valueless,

1346
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: why would.

1347
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: You ever go through the trouble of doing that exactly?

1348
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: So here's my thing.

1349
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: The rules need to.

1350
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: Be situated in a very balanced way. If it's we're

1351
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 3: gonna call it mixed martial arts and we're gonna say

1352
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 3: grappling and wrestling is relevant, the rules have to reflect

1353
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: that that they're such incentive to use it. Because if

1354
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: we're just gonna say grappling is valueless unless you get

1355
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: a real naked choke or you can pounce someone out

1356
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: from mount There's gonna be a lot of people I

1357
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: think over time just fucking abandoning it and now you're

1358
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: gonna get much more kickboxing. I don't know if that's the.

1359
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: Right idea, to be fair, although I'm not saying UFC

1360
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: has the full control on dictating and changing these terms.

1361
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: They would rather have it that way, of course they might,

1362
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: but of course the team and value the more fights

1363
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: that are that are standing over.

1364
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 3: Okay, but look at this fight with Uri and Glover.

1365
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: It was half on the ground and half on the ground,

1366
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 3: but a lot was on the ground.

1367
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: But the most exciting part it would have been if

1368
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: this was for wrestling, would have been in the parking lot.

1369
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it was that type of fight where you

1370
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: just keep going.

1371
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 3: Lastly on this for Valentino, what is this do for you?

1372
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: In terms of a Nuna's trilogy, I.

1373
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: Think in the end, this is one of those things

1374
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: where she can survive any negative issues people take with

1375
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 2: this fight, even scoring it against her in their mind

1376
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: and feeling like she got a gift. As long as

1377
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: she stays on the road, I don't think it stops

1378
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: her from moving up to one thirty five next in

1379
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: a rematch with either Penya or a trilogy with Nuna's

1380
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: if that, if that was just the fight to make

1381
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: right now, right, you know, there's no one knocking on

1382
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: the door at one twenty five until we ever see

1383
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: Tatiana Suarez again, that, you know. I mean, she took

1384
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: care of Vondra, She's taken care of people. And you know,

1385
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: Chefchenko did mention Mishite. Of course, everyone you know, marketing wise,

1386
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: would love Mishitate to beat Lauren Murphy. That'd be a

1387
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: big fight for Chefchenko. But short of that, I don't

1388
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 2: think it actually holds her back in the end. And Luke,

1389
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, the thing I've always kind of liked about

1390
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: Scheffchenko is like she never cares about that. Like when

1391
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: carmusin the rematch was not walking forward and did nothing,

1392
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: you know, Faltina got frustrated to the point where she's

1393
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 2: just like, fuck it, we're gonna go to the finish

1394
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: line together like this, I'm not gonna take the chance

1395
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: for this absolute bullshit. I like that spirit, right, She's

1396
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: in there to win the damn fight. So I think

1397
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: that people already I kind of know that she's like that.

1398
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't think there's going to be a negative just

1399
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: a scarlet letter on her after this, you know what

1400
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1401
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either, But I do think

1402
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 3: that folks need to dial back absolutely the idea that

1403
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: she's some unbeatable monster. She's a human being who has

1404
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: a very very high level skill set, but it's got

1405
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: plenty of gaps in it, just like everyone else's does.

1406
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: You cannot be a perfect fighter. They do not exist.

1407
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: And you're seeing fighters more and more using jiu jitsu,

1408
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: combination of jiu jitsu and wrestling to do some good

1409
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: work against the.

1410
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: Elephant in the room. Elephant in the room on Valentina's

1411
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 2: great greatness. And I love Valentina, and I'm the one

1412
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: pounding that drum for her greatness. She took over a

1413
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: division that was a non division, right. You know, she

1414
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: didn't even beat the champion. Not saying that she wouldn't

1415
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: have beaten Niko Mantanu, but you know she had a

1416
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: fight you want instead. But the whole point is like

1417
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: it was sort of a broken division. They just threw together.

1418
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: She wasn't beaten world beaters for a while. Yeah, the

1419
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: consistency was there. The variety was there, but that did

1420
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: that did conspire to over and flate, you break.

1421
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 3: In the hearts of a lot of horny MMA fans,

1422
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: But that.

1423
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: Did conspire to over and fleet the like.

1424
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 3: Where she and also like the listen, the wind streak

1425
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: has been impressive. Let's be very clear what I'm saying.

1426
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: Is it looking back because you can you can look

1427
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: back at Rousey's running the same way like well, the

1428
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: other women weren't exactly on this lone.

1429
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: No, I mean I have I have. I have tremendous

1430
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: respect for the actual fighter that Valentino Shuchenko is, but

1431
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: clearly the bubble on her about this, you know, unstoppable avenger,

1432
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 3: that's got to go away. All right. Now, we're gonna

1433
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: have two topics about Joanna and j Check. We're going

1434
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 3: to get to the retirement question.

1435
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: The one question about Tyler Santos. Does she deserve a

1436
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: rematch because of how close the fight was. I would

1437
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: like to see one.

1438
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: I would like to see one a media.

1439
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: Is it that demanding for immediate or is.

1440
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: It wins at UFC two seventy six. I think there's

1441
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: part of the direction they're going to go. But Lauren

1442
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: Murphy would be the one fighting. We should tate and

1443
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: Laura Murphy already fought Valentina, so Lauren Murky, right, So

1444
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: I think if Lauren Murphy wins, which by the way,

1445
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 3: is very much in play, I think they should give

1446
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: Santos another crack. That's what I would say, thank you

1447
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: about the same.

1448
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know if I'd be that

1449
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: excited excited about it.

1450
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: Well, remember Santos was the fifth ranked fighter. They had

1451
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: to go all the way to fifth rank, but they're gonna.

1452
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: Go to six or seven and still, Okay, here's my point.

1453
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: I still think I learned that Valentine is a better fighter,

1454
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: even though again it was letter of the law that

1455
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: she won it, and I didn't necessarily love that she

1456
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: was sort of content with her performance and not trying

1457
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: harder for the finish. Yet I still feel like, in

1458
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: a different circumstance, she's going to make the adjustments and

1459
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: she's gonna win that rematch. But hey, Santo's came close.

1460
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: There's no one else in that the division. You're right,

1461
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: She's probably gonna end up getting out of the crack,

1462
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: all right, but she did nothing stand up wise. Can

1463
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: you at least a bit that who Tylia Santos did

1464
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: pretty much nothing on the feed, not much when that

1465
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: was coming in, you know, the highlight packaging.

1466
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 3: She had a few more late kicks. That was about

1467
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: I looked at the numbers on Saturday night. That was

1468
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: about it. She could, but you know that's because she

1469
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: was playing the distance game too, right, So all right,

1470
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: we have two put topics about Yanna and j check.

1471
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: One will about be about her legacy, but first and what.

1472
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: About her Instagram?

1473
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: That may be a sub topic for you, but let's

1474
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: talk first about the fight itself. So she loses, and

1475
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: in pretty spectacular fashion, Jean Whiteley, with a spinning back

1476
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: fist slash forearm, puts her lights out face first. BC

1477
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 3: is the story of the fight Jeong's clear improvement, because

1478
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: I think you would acknowledge she looked a lot better

1479
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: this time, or is the story way too many questions,

1480
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: way too much time off, just way too many other factors,

1481
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: plus the damage from the first fight weighing Yo Wanna

1482
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 3: down plus thirty five years of age.

1483
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: It's mostly the first question, but yes, there are elements

1484
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: of the second point that bleed into it. So it's

1485
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: a little bit of both. At the end, of the day.

1486
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: But don't sleep on that first point. Jong Way Lee

1487
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: came back in this fight and showed you exactly who

1488
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: the hell she is, because even though Yo Wanna did

1489
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: have the two years away and the thirty four almost

1490
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: thirty five and you know, some of the lack of

1491
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: overall evolution, which I think was ultimately the difference in

1492
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: this fight, she came in and kill her shape and

1493
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: she was willing to go out on her shield, which

1494
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: was perfect in how it kind of led into the

1495
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: surprise retirement because that's her legacy. In the end, she's

1496
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: an absolute warrior. We'll get into that in the second.

1497
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: This one was about Wailey Jong who we saw the evolution.

1498
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: Let's give her credit for bouncing back from that headkick

1499
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: first round knockout to Rose, which came immediately after the

1500
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: most vicious female fight we've ever seen, and then kind

1501
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: of had a case almost in that rematch used the

1502
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: wrestling her body is. You know, she's jacked. She's an

1503
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: absolute physical force and you saw that, and early in

1504
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: the first round against Juanna, she just kind of ragged

1505
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: out her Luke in terms of the grappling. But the

1506
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: variety now of striking to be able to break out

1507
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: that spinning backfist like that, and by the way, I

1508
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: think it did hit the back of the head. It

1509
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: hit kind of a lot as she was turning in

1510
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: And No, wouldn't really want to mention that, not that

1511
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: I think it should be illegal. So that does it

1512
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: does damage.

1513
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: She didn't target that and it was still kind of borderlinish.

1514
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: But that showed that she's dangerous, Luke, in way more

1515
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: ways than she was when when jesskon Dradge ran into

1516
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: her fist early in that fight and she kind of,

1517
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 2: you know, chocked the world and won the title. She's

1518
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: a better fighter now and she doesn't seem to be

1519
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: overly diminished her damage from the war. She's been in

1520
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: the confidence level, the shape she's in.

1521
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: Physically like she's really a beastly.

1522
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: She would be a betting favorite against Carlo Asparza right now,

1523
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: and I think it might be wider than you think, Luke.

1524
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I would I would agree

1525
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: with that day, you know what I mean? Do you

1526
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: remember that early in the first round she had one

1527
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 3: leg captured with one hand and then with pounding on

1528
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: her with the other hand. Just do you understand how

1529
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: hard it is to hold another strong person in place

1530
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: with one fucking hand, like the big knock on the

1531
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 3: first n J Check fight, because she had a couple

1532
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 3: of these, and then in the second Rose fight, was

1533
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: that Jean Whyeley had a lot of difficulty. She couldn't

1534
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 3: get the takedown, but she couldn't really do shit with

1535
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: it and the person would pop back up pretty quickly. Dude,

1536
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: how about this fight she was able to get the

1537
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 3: takedown and then maintain control and then exactly heavy on top.

1538
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: Wasn't there like a like a vicious vibe coming out

1539
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: of her. I'm not saying it was like it was

1540
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: big brother.

1541
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: It was big brother.

1542
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a revenge anger thing. In fact, you

1543
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: got to be honest, they were kind of cute all week.

1544
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: It was like they were so nice to each other

1545
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: and I'll get a kiss and even even Wayleey would

1546
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: say that and the you know in the interviews and

1547
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,959
Speaker 2: she's just been a delight to be around, Yoanna, But dude,

1548
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: did that switch? I mean, there was just a vicious

1549
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 2: efficiency to that ground game. Now you want to look

1550
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: came in great shape, But Luke, you saw the difference

1551
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: in what those two years were you want to stayed

1552
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: in shape. In those two years, she refreshed herself mentally

1553
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: all that she came in ready to go out faced.

1554
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 3: First on her scuses.

1555
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: I mean she she freaking brought it. And by the way,

1556
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: before the stoppage, she was starting to agree some moments offensively.

1557
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna agree with me that the two

1558
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: year difference, you ay used it better. But do you

1559
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: agree with you on a strategy you can It's clear

1560
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: that going from five rounds to three, she knew she

1561
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: had inflict damage. She was unable to inflict damage in

1562
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: the first fight. She was going for those for those No,

1563
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: in the first fight, she didn't really she wasn't able to.

1564
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 3: I mean it was she busted up least, she was

1565
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: bleeding everywhere, but I didn't see any any single strikes

1566
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: that were rocking her.

1567
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: I think the whole point is in a smaller window,

1568
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: she knew that damage could be the difference, and I

1569
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: think she was actually going for the knockout. Was that

1570
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: the right strategy because we've never seen this version of you.

1571
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: Wanta basically Dan Hendo and h bomb ready at every

1572
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: point and just and just absolutely.

1573
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 3: Throw these the three rounds changed her strategy.

1574
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 6: The other part two was that I thought the fight

1575
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 6: was obviously was that the right strategy as what I'm asking,

1576
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what the right strategy was in that case,

1577
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 6: because if you look at the first fight, kicking was

1578
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 6: really the predominant way she was able to land effectively.

1579
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 3: She had hands behind it through combination. But the biggest

1580
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: issue was Ajong was durable and could blitz back, so

1581
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: she had to kind of keep a little bit of

1582
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: distance and took away a lot of her leg kicks

1583
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: through the blitz. So she had to go middle and

1584
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 3: high on a lot of those. So you knew there

1585
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: had to be the rule here, and I think it wasn't.

1586
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 3: It was having some effect. They were kind of back

1587
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 3: and forth, but to your point, it wasn't getting her

1588
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 3: over the hump. It wasn't really doing anything to change

1589
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: the tenor of the fight or the round, and so

1590
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: she was getting a little bit, if not desperate, changing

1591
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: Those were punches. You didn't see her go after a lot, no,

1592
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 3: and I thought.

1593
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: Her desperation would lead to a playing for a decision,

1594
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: but completely, you're not going to touch me, circle away

1595
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: in and out, get out of there. I thought it

1596
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: was going to be a lot of darting in and

1597
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: out using her. That's why I thought she came in

1598
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: that greatest shape. I thought she was really going to

1599
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: make it attract me. It may not have been what

1600
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: the fans wanted to looking for damage in the repeat,

1601
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: but I thought she would look at this opportunity more

1602
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: as like I can get back to a title shot

1603
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: with a win. This is the way I'm going to

1604
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: neutralize it Wayley by keeping her off balance all the time.

1605
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: It was none of that. It was instead, I'm going

1606
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 2: to go through her and take her out. It's hard

1607
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: toize that because she's the one that went in there

1608
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: and did it and you saw the result. But it

1609
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: was surprising to me in that regard.

1610
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: I'll say one thing is obviously, like in the Androge fight, Yo,

1611
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: Wanta was able to stick and move, and I think

1612
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: that actually suits her really well. Talking about the track meet,

1613
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: I think I don't know if she would prefer that

1614
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: style of fight, but if she knew she had an

1615
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: opponent like that, I think she'd be probably pretty happy

1616
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: that she could use those skills here. She had to

1617
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 3: kind of try and hunt and chase and like duel

1618
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: with somebody who was more durable, more powerful, and as

1619
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 3: you saw with that final shot, so pretty clever.

1620
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: The point of me bringing that up is because she

1621
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: employed that strategy, which again I'm not going to criticize it,

1622
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: because that's who she is. She's a freaking warrior. She

1623
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 2: makes incredible fights you wanna. But that strategy opened up

1624
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: doors for her to get hit big and opened up

1625
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: doors for her to make mistakes, and it basically was

1626
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: an all or nothing approached to where she was getting

1627
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: lit up, and the difference in way these growth was

1628
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: going to be too much for that.

1629
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 3: No, I had said, I think you had agreed, maybe

1630
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 3: not on Friday or earlier last week, that I didn't

1631
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 3: know if the winner of this fight deserved a title shot. Okay,

1632
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 3: I still understand the argument that maybe they've not done

1633
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 3: enough based on what has happened in terms of the

1634
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: out of wins, but I gotta say, you finish off

1635
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: j Check like that. I got to tell you, I

1636
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: don't think I have much of.

1637
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: A problem with Jean Wiley getting I have zero problem

1638
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: at all, and especially because Carlo's got a lot to prove,

1639
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: because that fight against Rose was just not no one

1640
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: won that fight. To be fair, no one won that fight,

1641
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: So she's got a lot to prove. And now you've

1642
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: got somebody like Jeong Way Lee with history, former champion,

1643
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: who is just rising, who is coming on. I mean,

1644
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: yet she's one and two in her last three with

1645
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: the first round and KO lost. Yet she's coming on.

1646
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: She has really shown us that she's ready. This is

1647
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: just going to be another fun chapter in this incredible

1648
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: division's history, whether it's the Big Four, the Big Five,

1649
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: these five women, Rose, JJ andrage Asparza and way Lee,

1650
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, it's just one great fight after another

1651
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: that I really have no issue with the order of

1652
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: who gets these title shots or what, because I don't

1653
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: even know if anyone wins, Meaning I don't think it's

1654
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: gonna end up with one person that comes out of this.

1655
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: I think there's going to keep passing the belt, kind

1656
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: of like the light halfweight division before John Jones came around.

1657
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: And we're gonna be grateful that we have this. I mean,

1658
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: has any of these matchups let you down with these

1659
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: five against one another, No, right, they've been Some have.

1660
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: Been shorter into the sense that like you know, for example,

1661
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: King Jack's wait cut against Rose the first time kind

1662
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: of tost her, but yes, the rematch was scintillating. The

1663
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: thing I think that made a difference in the first

1664
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 3: fight now looking back, was Jeanui Lee is thirty two,

1665
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: so she was like twenty nine or thirty, depending on

1666
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 3: the dates when they first fought the when their first

1667
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: encounter happened, obviously, I think Juana was around thirty three

1668
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 3: or so. So one one was a little bit out

1669
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 3: getting out of the prime. One was smack in the

1670
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: middle of it. I think that's part of it. But

1671
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: the bigger issue was I think Jeong Wi Lee was

1672
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 3: just much more durable and maybe the damage didn't feel

1673
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: to her quite as much as you want to felt

1674
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: it in the end. So for example, when Jean came back,

1675
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 3: she looked terrible against Rose the first time and did

1676
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 3: lose in a subsequent matchup, but you could see she

1677
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: was rebuilding. There was something there. Maybe if you wanna

1678
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 3: kept going, we would actually see something similar. But the

1679
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 3: big difference was I think she took a bigger i'll

1680
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 3: say i'm mount of damage the first time and was

1681
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 3: much older, which means recovery is difficult, and I think

1682
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: that's carried more long term implications.

1683
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: Fair, fair, and just think about it, Luke, we could

1684
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: if it's Wayley versus Carla KNX would never seen that matchup.

1685
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: But we're still intrigued to get another matchup in these

1686
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: five that we're talking about. But if we end up

1687
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: in like Rose versus Whaley trilogy for the title, like crazy,

1688
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: it's insane, you know, Yoanna versus any of these ones

1689
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: in rematches or trilogies would have been crazy. She's stepping away,

1690
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: but there's still so many great matchups Andrage is not

1691
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: going anywhere, Like dude, it's gonna it's gonna keep going.

1692
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what a what an incredible uh division and run.

1693
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: But that takes us, Luke into the run that you

1694
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: want a young j checks hand.

1695
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 3: All right, So topic number four, we stayed with yu Wana,

1696
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 3: but let's focus in on her career. So as soon

1697
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 3: as the fight was over, she took her gloves off,

1698
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 3: the decision was read, and she announced to Daniel Cormier,

1699
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 3: who was being the in ring interviewer, that she has

1700
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: retired from mixed martial arts thirty five years of age

1701
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 3: thirty four. I guess she'll be thirty five soon. Yes,

1702
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 3: So let's let's get to this b C. Very simple question,

1703
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 3: but a big one. Yeah, what did she bring to

1704
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: the sport? And what is her legacy?

1705
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 2: She was a star, and I think she was, you know,

1706
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: certainly the first star of this smaller way class here

1707
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: in the women's side. You know, Rowsey was the face

1708
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: of women getting into the cage. But we soon quickly

1709
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: learned that one hundred and fifteen pounds was the division

1710
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: in the women's game, and she was the face of

1711
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 2: this longer than anyone, not just in terms of her

1712
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: star power, but in terms of her success. Is she

1713
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 2: the greatest one hundred and fifteen pound fighter of all time?

1714
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: That's going to be She's in the discussion, right, It's

1715
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 2: gonna be whose flavor you like, because they all fight

1716
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 2: each other and they all trade wins and losses. But

1717
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: she had the most substantial, longest, most meaningful reign of

1718
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: five consecutive decisions. She was She had runs where she

1719
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: was dominating, blowing people away, and then as the competition

1720
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: caught up, she put on incredible even fifty to fifty

1721
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: fights or even in some of her biggest wins, think Carolina,

1722
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: think even on Dras. You know, she really had to

1723
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: fight off some real opposition. But Luke, you know, one

1724
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 2: A of her resume is, you know, the most successful

1725
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: women's one hundred and fife pound champion of all time,

1726
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: and maybe you know after rouse, you the star of

1727
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: the lower women's weight classes for sure. But her one

1728
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: B in terms of her true legacy is she's a

1729
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 2: freaking warrior and that and it wasn't as if that

1730
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: wasn't always true, but it really took the Jung Way

1731
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 2: Leaf fight for us to start to say that, right.

1732
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: People weren't saying that before that, and now you've got

1733
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: the two Way Leaf fights and to see her like

1734
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: JJ going out like this, and you know, I'm the

1735
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: biggest JJ fan there is. Let me pour one out

1736
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: for you, Okay. It was it was tough, It was emotional.

1737
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: The speech afterwards, thanking the UFC, it was classy. She says,

1738
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: you know, I want to be a mom. Everyone can

1739
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 2: get behind that, but like she is a friggin warrior,

1740
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: So to go out this way on her face face first,

1741
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: it's actually not a negative, Luke, It's actually not like

1742
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 2: it's sort of like you know what I mean, Like

1743
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: you earned the chance to go out like that in

1744
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: a number one contenders fight in a rematch of the

1745
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: greatest female fight of all time, because that's sort of

1746
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 2: who she became. She was dominant champion for most of

1747
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: her run, and a technician and a hustler. But maybe

1748
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: it was the heart in stamina she showed against Clausea

1749
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: in the rematch that opened her eyes. But it didn't

1750
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 2: really come full bloom until that twenty twenty war against

1751
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: way Lee that we're looking at. Yes, a star and

1752
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: a champion, but one of the most elite blood and

1753
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: guts fighters at this level that we've seen. I mean,

1754
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: she is, She's got that blood Luke. You can say

1755
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 2: whatever you want about her, but you cannot ever question

1756
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 2: the toughness and the willing to come back and fight.

1757
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean that almost supersedes the success she had as

1758
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: a champion in my eyes at this point.

1759
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually have a bit of a different view,

1760
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: and it's not that I disagree, but the way I

1761
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 3: would look at it is I feel like her legacy.

1762
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: Whether she'll be the greatest Strawight ever to your points,

1763
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 3: debatable because Rose is out there, but the five title

1764
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 3: defense is By the way, I wanted to make this point.

1765
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: Listen to the company she's in. If you have five

1766
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: title defenses and I grant different eras, different weight classes, okay, fine,

1767
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 3: but here are the ones with four or less. Pat Militich,

1768
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 3: Frank Shamrock, Tyminn Woodley, Henneberrow, Chuck Ladell, Israel Adessinya, Alexander Volkanovsky, Bjpenn,

1769
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 3: Max Holloway, Steepocic, Habib, number Ga made Off, Chris Widman,

1770
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 3: Benson Henderson, Frankie Edgar came Velaski's Dominic Cruz and on

1771
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 3: and on those No, No, those four or less bro

1772
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: she even had four UFC appeared her name. I mean,

1773
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 3: come on, but dude, in all seriousness, her name in

1774
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 3: terms of title defenses supersedes those. Right Again, different weight classes,

1775
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 3: different eras. Still, that's the kind of company she's in.

1776
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: Number one, But the biggest one for me, BC is Yes,

1777
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: all the things you spoke to I would not disagree

1778
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 3: with one bit, but I actually feel like it's a

1779
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: little bit more historically significant role, which is to say,

1780
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 3: she to me is arguably one off, if not the

1781
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 3: most important female fighter post Ronda Rousey. And the reason

1782
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 3: why I would say that this is yes, Ronda had

1783
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: her other contemporaries. Holly Holm did well after her. But

1784
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: remember even when Ronda checked out after Amanda Nunas, it

1785
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: took a while for a man of Unas's popularity to

1786
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 3: take off. And Ronda and y want to kind of

1787
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: overlapped a little bit there in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

1788
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 3: but that was really when you'll want to begin to

1789
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 3: take off, you want. It didn't make her UFC debut

1790
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 3: until twenty fifteen, I believe, and it was only when

1791
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: there was a bit of a trainransition period. Yes, other

1792
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 3: female bansamweight fighters like me shitate like some other ones,

1793
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: they also carried it. I don't mean to say she

1794
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 3: is the sole, you know, statue of liberty torch out there,

1795
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 3: but I think the fans when they were looking, who

1796
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: is the next female star that we could really gravitate to,

1797
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: especially outside of that bansamweight orbit dude, that was when

1798
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: she was the boogie woman, surging through, tearing Jessica Penny's

1799
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: face up, doing those things at wigh In's. They gave

1800
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 3: her the ultimate fighter for those reasons.

1801
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: She was scared. She was scary, She had like the

1802
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: gnarly long hair.

1803
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 3: She was just sort of like as Ronda was kind

1804
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 3: of fading out of the sport, Johanna was fading or

1805
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: I should say, surging in. And I believe was very

1806
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 3: instrumental in making sure there were other stars and other

1807
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 3: divisions inside of women's MMA who fans could gravitate to

1808
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 3: it just so happens to feed him. To your point,

1809
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: she was this, you know, this.

1810
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: Like switch doctor.

1811
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: She was savage and she could strike and do what

1812
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: she did to Carlos Sparza like it wasn't just that

1813
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 3: she beat her dude, like she mugged her. And then

1814
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: following up with what she did against Jessica Peenny. That

1815
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 3: to me, that role of after Ronda kind of fades out,

1816
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 3: Oh is it just gonna be the Ronda Rousi show?

1817
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: And when she goes here was outside of her division,

1818
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: another woman could fight in a totally different way than

1819
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 3: Ronda and really proved that there was something special going on.

1820
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now now let me let me potentially be critical

1821
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: here this. You know, Yanna might be my favorite fighter seriously,

1822
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: Like I love the warrior spirit, the savagery and just

1823
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 2: the the you know, the struw. I mean, she walks

1824
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 2: around like like like you know, the shit don't smell.

1825
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 2: We know that. I'm already saying she's among the greatest

1826
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: of all time, male or female. Her five title defenses

1827
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: prove that, okay, But did she rely too much in

1828
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: the second half of her career when to be fair,

1829
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: she did lose five of her last seven fights, albeit

1830
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: most of those title fights five round wars. What have

1831
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 2: you did? She rely too much on the savagery and

1832
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: warrior spirit in the second half of her career and

1833
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: not enough on the evolution of her game because the

1834
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: major thing she lacked was was knock out ability, right.

1835
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: She always overcame that with guts, you know, killing people

1836
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: with car and just be volume technician of a volume technician,

1837
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: right like, you know, not counterpunching, just flurries in and

1838
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: out all that should Could she have been even more?

1839
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: As my real question if it had been more about

1840
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: the full evolution of her game as the people around

1841
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: her got better. She was still able to bite down

1842
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: Luke and as we saw against Wailey in the first fight,

1843
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: come as close as you can to winning back the championship.

1844
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: But could she have been even more or is it

1845
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: just sort of yeah, I mean be happy. We saw

1846
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 2: one of the greatest ever doing. I would say more

1847
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: so the latter for me.

1848
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 3: I think the issue with her well roundedness you got

1849
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 3: you know how I feel about it, Like you always

1850
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: have to ask the question, not are you well rounded?

1851
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 3: Not can you do different things outside of your A game?

1852
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: If you can your B and C game beat elite fighters,

1853
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 3: that's really the question. No, her B and C game

1854
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: cannot beat elite fighters, which.

1855
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: We saw against Valentino where once it was obvious she

1856
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be able to take control of the terms

1857
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: of that fight.

1858
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: It was over. In fairness to Valentina, she actually has

1859
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: a B and C game that can, to some extent

1860
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 3: allow her to do that a little bit better. So no,

1861
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 3: I don't I do think that is a fair criticism. Again,

1862
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 3: none of these fighters are perfect. This is going to

1863
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 3: be what it's going to be. She was transitioning over

1864
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 3: from tie boxing, so take it for what it's worth.

1865
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 3: But yes, that is something of a larger question. But

1866
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 3: like at that point it gets to like impugning her training.

1867
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how she was training. I'm going to

1868
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 3: guess she trained pretty fucking hard, and so it's just

1869
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 3: hard to learn those skills a little bit later in

1870
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: your athletic life relative to the needs of the division.

1871
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: But I'll say also, whatever she lacked, she'd be Claudia Gadelia.

1872
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 3: Kadelia had a huge advantage over her on those other

1873
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 3: portions of the game.

1874
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: Matches, that rally and their rematch like crazy crazy, I

1875
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: mean the heart that you want to show it against Caroline.

1876
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: Even though she was leading, she was taking dam She

1877
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: went to the hospital after that. I mean, she had

1878
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: to put herself into some wars and again the backbone

1879
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: always went out, and that's what made her super special.

1880
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: But even as the sport kind of evolved past her,

1881
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: she was still able to hang on, always took the

1882
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: biggest fights available. And I give her respect for not

1883
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: only taking off the two years because she realized she

1884
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 2: needed it, but using that window to negotiate herself back

1885
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: into a huge position, but then at the same time

1886
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: walking away on her own terms. You have to applaud anybody,

1887
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: because you know she could have hung on and been

1888
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: the name.

1889
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: The last thing I would want to see is her.

1890
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess she could keep going, but I

1891
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 3: always prefer, like if you're getting face planted at you know,

1892
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 3: thirty five to thirty four whatever it is, you know,

1893
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 3: after a long layoff like that, I think it's the

1894
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 3: right call. I really do. These guys are human. She

1895
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 3: wants to be a mom, she wants to have good

1896
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: quality of life. Listen, if things are beginning to go

1897
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 3: where or you're not just losing, right, but then you're

1898
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: getting and now she got stoppedgainst Rose. I understand, but

1899
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: like that was a weight cut thing. But I'm saying,

1900
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 3: if you're getting viciously stopped and you're thirty five years

1901
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: of age right around it and you've never really been

1902
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 3: stopped quite like that, for those kinds of reasons, the

1903
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 3: specific ones, I recommend doing something else. And this is

1904
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 3: perfect timing. I wanted to read some stature.

1905
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't she up there in most most time in

1906
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: the octagon in terms.

1907
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: I don't have that, Well, here's what I do have.

1908
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 3: She has ten wins, which is tied for most in

1909
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 3: straweight history. This is from MMA Junkie. She has six

1910
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 3: title fight wins, most in strawweight history. She is one

1911
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 3: of three undefeated champs in the sense that she was

1912
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 3: the only strawweight to win the belt with an undefeated record,

1913
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 3: and she's landed seventeen. I should say one thousand, seven

1914
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty four significant strikes, just third most in

1915
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 3: UFC history, speaking to the volume that she brought. Remember

1916
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 3: they used to call her Joanna Champion, Joanna Violence.

1917
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: You want a legend now, Lucaya, I saw your tweet

1918
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, no, but seriously going out on her

1919
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 2: own terms, which which means a lot to me. And

1920
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: she also kind of like, remember she was a bully

1921
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: in the first Rose Fight, and she kind of took

1922
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 2: on a villainous persona. She's kind of repaired that too

1923
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 2: over time, not that that necessarily matters, but like everyone

1924
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: respects her. You saw all the tweets, like everyone you

1925
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: know walked her off with the full respect, and that

1926
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: means something, Luke's that means more in some ways than

1927
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 2: wins losses in championship when you have that, like true

1928
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: hardcore fan core respect, and she fought for that. It

1929
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 2: was clear she fought for to She fought for us

1930
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: to look at her as the bad as she is.

1931
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: That meant more to her than anything.

1932
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 3: Yes, and it was interesting that you know she You're right,

1933
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 3: she was the bully, which people loved until she tried

1934
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: to bully someone else people also love, and then it

1935
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: kind of backfired with the results. But I think she

1936
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 3: retires today, and I'm assuming she's probably gonna stay retired.

1937
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 3: I think she retires today as something of and I

1938
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 3: say this again in a praiseworthy way, as an elder statesman,

1939
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 3: you know, as someone who's been put their arm around

1940
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 3: the game, speaking of which kovil Kaevich had a rebound

1941
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: because of her. You know, she was trying to lift

1942
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 3: everyone else around her up. And I think that will

1943
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 3: also be part of her legacy and how she has

1944
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 3: viewed long term as well, but certainly as a competitor

1945
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 3: and as a position that she occupied in that waning

1946
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 3: slash post arouse the era, one of the most important

1947
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: figures you could really point to with mixed martial arts history.

1948
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: All right, BC, that takes us lastly to a bit

1949
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 3: of a boxing round that folks are asking, what about

1950
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 3: all the other fights? Yes, we're going to record extra

1951
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: credit after this. Don't worry, all right, BC, Let's talk

1952
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 3: abot little bit of boxing. There was a big weekend

1953
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 3: for boxing. Yes, we'll talk about what you did in

1954
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 3: a minute. First things first, showtime announced. We don't have

1955
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 3: a formal announcement yet for the opponent, but August six's

1956
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 3: massive square garden. It's going to be the Aman Amanda

1957
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 3: Serrano excuse me, slash Jake Paul show. They're back August six. MSG.

1958
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 3: Your reaction interesting.

1959
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 2: I mean the MSG means something, right, this is the

1960
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 2: mech go to sort of see Jake sort of and

1961
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: dear that. You wonder what level of opponent is he

1962
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: going to get? I mean, could it be inn Anderson

1963
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: Silva or are we asking too much? Could it be

1964
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: a Tommy Fury which could hit certain markets? And I

1965
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: guess in theory could answer. You know, Jake take on

1966
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 2: a real boxer. Okay, you got a real boxer here.

1967
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to be intrigued to see who he ends

1968
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: up picking. But back in showtime, we weren't sure which

1969
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 2: direction business wise he was going to go. I love

1970
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 2: putting Amanda Toronto with him as much as we would

1971
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: all love a Katie Taylor rematch right now, and I

1972
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: hope they are building toward that. After that sort of

1973
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: modern classic where the biggest fight women's history lived up

1974
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: to expectations, You'd have to agree this could be Amanda

1975
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: Serranto's best sort of plat you know, showcase chance that

1976
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: she's had yet to sort of, you know, come back

1977
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: down and defend the titles in her own weight class

1978
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: and type and really try to build toward a second

1979
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: fight right there. So you know, the Jake thing is

1980
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: he's going to have to keep winning over reel boxing fans,

1981
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: but it's going to be interesting to see him an

1982
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 2: MSG for sure, And it's going to depend on the opponent.

1983
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: You know, how fired up we get in terms of

1984
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: how much of danger is he going to put on himself.

1985
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, if it could be an Anderson Silva,

1986
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 2: I'd be fired the heck up because no one really,

1987
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: no one really knows who wins that fight. I mean

1988
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: that that's a fight where he probably would be the

1989
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 2: betting underdog in that scenario, so we'll see.

1990
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 3: So that's makes me wonder about this whole thing. It's like,

1991
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 3: would Jake Paul Obviously he's not in control of the odds,

1992
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 3: but would he take a fight where he knew he

1993
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 3: was going to be the betting underdog, which is to

1994
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: say folks perceive that he would lose. I mean, I'm

1995
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 3: not sure what the odds were for Tyrant Woody, so

1996
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: I could be we're.

1997
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 2: Going to balance the business, right, because but this whole thing.

1998
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 3: Is betting on house money, right. The whole thing is

1999
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to find just the right guys who I

2000
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: can whoop up on.

2001
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: We're older, retired, two division smaller than right.

2002
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 3: You know. Again, there is some chatter about who it

2003
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 3: could be. We don't know yet.

2004
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Silva is forty seven, though we didn't need.

2005
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 3: To understand seven. He's forty seven. But he's obviously, you know,

2006
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: an extremely decorated and I hope he's on that shit too, right, dude,

2007
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 3: Like I would give a fuck. I couldn't possibly care

2008
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 3: less if he was on juice, wouldn't bother me even.

2009
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: But no, I don't think that is as big as

2010
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 2: the Silver fight would be. And I do think if

2011
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: Jake Paul fights Anderson Silva, you know, August six, Meds

2012
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: Square Garden, it would be a big deal. Would it

2013
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: be big enough for Jake to take that risk? Or

2014
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: is he trying to Is he trying to hold that

2015
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 2: card to in against a Diaz brother, against someone on

2016
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 2: that level.

2017
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 3: It'll be curious to see who he ends up with,

2018
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 3: and it'll be very curious to see what kind of

2019
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 3: numbers they pull. I will say, you got to give

2020
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 3: Jake credit for this, not so much with here's boxing

2021
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 3: per se for this comment, but in terms of lifting

2022
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 3: Amanda Serrano up, obviously she was just in MSG headlining

2023
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 3: against Katie Taylor. This isn't going to be in a

2024
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 3: different weight class, which kind of indicated. So if they

2025
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 3: do make the Katy Taylor rematch, it will have to

2026
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 3: be under different circumstances, probably in Ireland at a different weight.

2027
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 3: But what I was, what I'm gonna make was, dude,

2028
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: she pulled a decent crowd out there. It was Yes,

2029
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 3: the Irish were, you know, very much felt and were

2030
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: a huge presence. But you know, she has become something

2031
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 3: I think, so it is smart to put her in

2032
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: the co mana one percent and again like like, who

2033
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 3: has done more to promote a man of Serrano than

2034
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: Jake Paul But nobody, nobody. He has done a very

2035
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: good job lifting her up. So we'll have to see

2036
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 3: how the rest of the card looks. Okay, dude, what

2037
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: the fuck is going on with Edgar Berlanga. He fights

2038
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 3: Angulo and he wins, and he boxed capably. First of all,

2039
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 3: he didn't knock him out, which I want you to

2040
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: talk about number two, he bit him. How is this

2041
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 3: not a bigger shorty? You're like, well, how big a

2042
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 3: story he was? It to the point where Berlonga was

2043
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 3: actually apologizing I think today or last night, yes, on

2044
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 3: social media for it.

2045
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: So in the seventh round, uh, and Gulo like I

2046
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: think he hit Berlongo with an elbow and then threatened

2047
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: like cocked another elbow. So Berlonga's response was to try

2048
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 2: to bite his shoulder and neck, and originally and immediately

2049
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: in the ring after the fight, Berlonga was acting all

2050
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 2: tough like it's Mike Tyson and then on this badass

2051
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 2: he later took, you know, to his credit or to

2052
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: whoever forced him to do it, they walked it back.

2053
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: But the reason why that moment is significant in this

2054
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 2: Luke is to your original point, like sixteen consecutive first

2055
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: round knockouts, and he's the star, and he's hanging out

2056
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: with Fat Joe and he's facetiming all these celebrities and

2057
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: he's you know, Puerto Rican boxing needs that next star,

2058
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: that next you know, who's the next Coto Trinidad in

2059
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 2: that order. It didn't turn out to be Felix Verdejo.

2060
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: You know, right now the throne is somewhat open for that.

2061
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: So you know, Puerto Rican boxing embraced him. And it's

2062
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 2: not that he looked awful now and what four? Is

2063
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 2: it five straight decisions? Not four? But he has had

2064
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: some really you know, vulnerable moments and if you're going

2065
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: to keep pushing him as a main eventor as a

2066
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: on ESPN headliner, which they are, Luke, he's not going

2067
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: in the right direction. Do I agree that he should

2068
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 2: have won this fight?

2069
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

2070
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: I actually was impressed with some elements of his boxing

2071
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: in terms of you see that there's actual growth. But

2072
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: whether it's his fault or not, his selling card is

2073
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: that dude that knocks people out in the first round

2074
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: every time. So he didn't look like he was close

2075
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: to a knockout in this one. Not that that should

2076
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: be the full on measuring stick, but if you also

2077
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 2: didn't dazzle in the ring and you kind of looked okay,

2078
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: and on top of that, you got scoring that was

2079
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: way too wide to really justify it, So it looked like.

2080
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 3: It was almost like there was you could have I didn't.

2081
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 3: You could have given half the rounds.

2082
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,879
Speaker 2: And google it was a close fight. I thought Angulo

2083
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 2: like came up short, but like you know, it was

2084
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: a close fight. And the scores two of the three

2085
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 2: I think were just incredibly wide, which gives you that

2086
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: impression all the young prospect you know, they paid for

2087
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: the Yeah, like he never had a chance to begin with. Well,

2088
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 2: those scorecards kind of tell you that he didn't have

2089
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 2: a chance to begin with. So if it feels like

2090
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: everything is going against Brelonga right now in terms of

2091
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 2: fulfilling that unreachable, was it reachable? I don't know that

2092
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: idea that this you know, knockout king is going to

2093
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 2: take over and be the next Puerto Rican star and

2094
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: all that. He's not that dude, like they got to

2095
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 2: take him off of these main events. He's not a

2096
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: guy to be featured like this anymore. And I think

2097
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: unfortunately the I don't know if it's the celebrity he

2098
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 2: got too early mixed with what that first round knockout

2099
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: streak did for his own you know head, he wasn't

2100
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: the fighter that that knockout streak brought the attention to

2101
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: deserve like it didn't match up and now we're finding

2102
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: that out. So I think they have to be careful

2103
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: of like this kid not breaking. Look, not that he's

2104
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: shown like that, but like, you know, we saw him

2105
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 2: get dropped against the guy he shouldn't have. We saw

2106
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: him fight through injuries, and now we've seen him in

2107
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: four straight decisions where you're like where you're like, he

2108
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 2: did okay, and then you put the bite on top

2109
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: of that. People are just like f this guy. I mean, dude,

2110
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: I cannot believe how many people have turned on him

2111
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: completely after this, where they're just like, you know, journalists,

2112
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: well heed to openly tweet like I don't need to

2113
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: see him on TV and what.

2114
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 3: Do you think about? Like, also, it's hilarious an MMA

2115
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 3: where we're like, we build all these guys up to

2116
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 3: be superheroes, but boxing fans will tear a motherfucker.

2117
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: So they're trying to tear this building down, bro, like

2118
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: they're trying to.

2119
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 3: But dude, the thing is when a when a person wins,

2120
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 3: sometimes they don't always want spectacular, but you think you

2121
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 3: begin to think about who else could they fight. There's

2122
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 3: like no chatter at all about who ber Longa could

2123
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 3: fight next, because no one, no one thinks he's there. Yeah,

2124
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, you got to win. Fine, but you

2125
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 3: didn't do anything to make us like, really, wow, what

2126
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 3: words Belonga fit in? And blah blah blah blah blah.

2127
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't Again, we're not like, oh, him against Canelo,

2128
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: him against Yeah, no, no, no, we're not saying that,

2129
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: you know, all right, so over on his own, well,

2130
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: hold on, don't, don't don't Just real quick, can he

2131
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: fix this? Because I don't know, dud dude, the pressure

2132
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: was already so high to be thet out kid, and

2133
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: now the pressure is to just try to put the

2134
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: train back on the on the tracks. Yet, did you

2135
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: like anything he showed? Like? Is he improving in any

2136
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: degree to you? Because I saw a little bit, but

2137
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: it's certainly not enough.

2138
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's where I'm at. I mean, I

2139
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 3: guess it was marginally better than the last time I

2140
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: saw him, but I can't really pinpoint. Again, he's not bad.

2141
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't quite think that. But for the guy who

2142
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 3: had all of this hype as the monster, it's like.

2143
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: No, has got a good chin.

2144
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 3: He's a durable guy, and he's very defensive as well.

2145
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: Right, Like if he was gonna knock out Angoula, it

2146
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: was gonna be like, oh, shit, he got through a

2147
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: tough guy, like a guy who's at this level can

2148
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: be that hammer that the elites have to kind of

2149
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: dance around. My final question, Then we know that top

2150
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 2: rank has always noted to have the best matchmaking team

2151
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: the Hall of famers. In that match, you know, they

2152
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: always sort of know when to take the next step

2153
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 2: up or they also tend to know when to cash out.

2154
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: We're not in cash out territory yet.

2155
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 3: Right, Like, yeah, And what I mean by that is

2156
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 3: like he's also still valuable as a Puerto Rican fighter

2157
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 3: who can fight in Miami or New York City.

2158
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: I guess what I mean by that is, you know,

2159
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: when you the cash him out is saying I don't

2160
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: believe he's gonna get there. So let's put him in

2161
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 2: now against another name, you know, let's let's.

2162
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 3: Get they're gonna do that yet just yet, but it's

2163
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting. Now speaking of this, this guy didn't

2164
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 3: have a great showing, but here's the difference PC he

2165
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 3: can actually punch his ass off against you know, decent

2166
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 3: ish people. Jimei Mungia was getting slapped around a little

2167
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: bit by was it Jimmy Kelly is his name?

2168
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: Yes?

2169
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 3: But he got it done, dropping him three times in

2170
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: the fifth round. Mungia, you would agree for all of

2171
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: his problems, and I don't think Golden Boy is promoting

2172
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 3: him correctly. He can thump, he can thump.

2173
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: I question his one punch power. Really, he's so aggressive,

2174
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 2: he's so fun to watch because at first he was

2175
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: this brawler. But let's give him credit under trainer Eric Moreles,

2176
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: you're watching the evolution like there's more probably negative than

2177
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: positive to talk about this whole fight. But a lot

2178
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: of that is just why are we fighting on this

2179
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 2: level of matchmaking? And oh, by the way, why did

2180
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Jimmy Kelly of all people have like legitimate success and

2181
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: kind of rock you know Mongia early in the fight.

2182
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 2: But the reality is, like Mongy is better than this.

2183
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 2: I do think he's getting better as a boxer. I

2184
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: think it's not so much a one punch guy, but

2185
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: he's a guy who can throw really good combinations. And

2186
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: I like a lot of what he's doing. But I

2187
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: still think he's too slow for the super elite level.

2188
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 2: I still question whether Golden Boy actually truly believes in

2189
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 2: him and is willing Now they always say, look, we

2190
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: tried to make the Charlo fight. But like Luke, I

2191
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 2: hate bringing business into all of our box and discussions

2192
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 2: because if you're a fan or a new fan and

2193
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 2: you just want to be a fan for the pure

2194
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: reasons of just the fights, right because the fight's rule,

2195
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with that business shit. Well

2196
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 2: you kind of have to. Unfortunately, the way that this

2197
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: is set up and you have to look at is

2198
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 2: a fight between two people from rival sides of the

2199
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: line big enough to make and in this case Mongia

2200
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: versus Charlotte kind of isn't unless one is willing to

2201
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: let their fighter fight on a different network. Right, You're

2202
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: not gonna do a two network pay per view for that.

2203
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean you can try, but so I you know

2204
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 2: when dal La Hoya you know who by the way,

2205
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: ripped Jimmy Kelly coming in and said no one heard

2206
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 2: of him, but then tweeted after all you boxing fans

2207
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 2: should have known how good this guy is, Like just

2208
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,560
Speaker 2: just come on. I do question like, is it that

2209
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 2: they just can't make deals with big name fighters or

2210
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 2: are they not trying or does Mongia not want it?

2211
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Who?

2212
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 2: What is the who's not showing themselves?

2213
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 3: Dan Rayfield's take on this is always pretty good. He

2214
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 3: has acknowledged that there are business machinations that have prevented him,

2215
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: but he all says at end of the day, he's like, dude,

2216
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 3: how many signs off on these?

2217
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: Him?

2218
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 3: In Mungia signs off on these.

2219
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: He bears responsibility to you got to push him into

2220
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: a love Can fight, and it's probably unfortunately the Glofkin's

2221
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 2: going into a Canela fight and who knows, you know, well,

2222
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: glove Can is gonna keep fighting after that, like who knows, right,

2223
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 2: But like Mangia should have been in a in a

2224
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: fight like that where against an older guy who's gonna

2225
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 2: fight and stand in trade with you. He's not gonna

2226
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 2: get circled around an out box because you're like, okay,

2227
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 2: who does he have access to under the dezone window?

2228
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,839
Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, Demetrius Andreid. But you know Demetrius

2229
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: Andrew would do bad things to Mangia. I mean he

2230
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 2: would just dance around him with his length and just

2231
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 2: completely bamboozle him.

2232
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 3: He's not fighting all the stars either, so.

2233
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 2: I don't they can't get anybody with him.

2234
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 3: Well that's not entirely true.

2235
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 2: So now it pretty much is like Andreid has somehow.

2236
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 3: Just he's walked away from a couple of negotiating tables

2237
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 3: where he's, oh.

2238
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 2: No, he's ready to fight anyone, no one want he is. Now,

2239
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: yeah there's the debate. Yeah, well okay, all right, So

2240
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 2: the point is this, Like I like that Chris Mannox

2241
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: on the The Dezone broadcast afterwards head in a nice

2242
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 2: post fight interview and did push him with, you know, like,

2243
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: when are we going to see you against the true elite?

2244
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: Like this is not it fighting Jimmy Kelly. Is not

2245
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: it fighting old Gabrizzato and old Danny Jacobs, Like, it's

2246
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 2: not it. It's it's good that we're getting to that level,

2247
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 2: but those aren't the ones we need. So Luke, I

2248
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: do have questions. I think when he steps up to

2249
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: the level, he's going to be one of those guys

2250
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 2: who does lose. Now, it might be losing in in

2251
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: really fun action fights because he's he seems to be

2252
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 2: somebody who's about that, who wants to go in there

2253
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 2: and brawl. You know, even though he's working on his technique,

2254
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: I still have concerns that he's ever gonna win any

2255
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 2: of those elite fights.

2256
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 3: Like, I think you have a higher upside for him

2257
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 3: than BERLONGA.

2258
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, and and certainly Gia is more proven

2259
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 2: on the elite level for sure, but I do question

2260
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 2: if he actually is elite. I think, especially when he

2261
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: was in the lower weight classes, he was a kind

2262
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: of a weight bully who can just destroy people with

2263
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 2: the pressure and the punches, and he's so fun to watch.

2264
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of heart. And again fights with

2265
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 2: him against Glad, I mean, they'd be fun to watch,

2266
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: but they gotta make us believers that he can win

2267
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 2: those fights. Matchmaking wise, they haven't done that yet. They

2268
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: haven't because he struggled against Jimmy Kelly.

2269
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 3: He struggled, but there was also a question of like,

2270
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 3: how seriously does he even take this ship? To be

2271
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 3: quite honest with you, all right, BC, you were on

2272
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 3: Showtime on Friday, Showbox results. The main event was great. Yeah,

2273
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 3: jalalv I can never pronounce his last name. He could

2274
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 3: fucking box.

2275
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 2: So he's a six foot seven heavyweight. He's only twenty seven.

2276
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: He's now eleven to zero with eleven KOs. He paused

2277
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: his pro career last year to enter the Olympics in Tokyo.

2278
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 2: Won four fights, one gold medal at super heavyweight and

2279
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,560
Speaker 2: he's back in the pro game and he doesn't have

2280
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 2: one of those styles where he has to adjust from

2281
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 2: amateur to pro. He's kind of like a South Paul

2282
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 2: Vitali Clichko, only he doesn't take a lot of chances.

2283
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 2: He's defensively sound. So he was in against a Jack Mulawa.

2284
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 2: He a guy who we saw the class difference was huge,

2285
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 2: but it took until the eighth and final round for

2286
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 2: the big Oozbek to deliver that ko. Because look, if

2287
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 2: you can give him any criticism, he is a little

2288
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: bit too patient. But when he puts his combinations together

2289
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 2: and he goes after you, great, He's accurate, he's fast,

2290
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 2: he's got good footwork for that size. Like we're looking

2291
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 2: at a future title contender. I don't know, I don't

2292
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 2: know how high the ceiling is, but that was fun

2293
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 2: to see. And once he delivered the boom, as you

2294
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 2: can see in the highlights there, I mean it was

2295
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 2: absolutely the jet luke.

2296
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can move, he's got good handspeed, he's got

2297
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 3: good awareness and he stretches this fool and can you.

2298
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 2: See that that it's almost a South Batalie stuff. Because

2299
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 2: the batalitey had the kickboxing style that he converted to

2300
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: box right, so it's always was like, you know, weight

2301
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 2: on the opposite leg and sort of you know, he

2302
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 2: would always have his lead hand down. That's kind of

2303
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: how the big Oosebeck operates. But Lou de Bella, who

2304
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 2: promotes him, had been talking about him for years, and

2305
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: he had lost in the twenty sixteen Olympics to Joe

2306
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 2: Joyce in the quarterfinals, but came back even after turning

2307
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 2: pro since they changed that amateur classification role there and

2308
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 2: won gold. So let's see, let's see where it goes.

2309
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 2: Look all right?

2310
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 3: And then last but not least, bold Don King was

2311
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 3: back in action with Dubois, who won relatively easily. Anything

2312
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 3: to say about this.

2313
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: No, I mean, we didn't even preview it because it's

2314
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 2: it's for the secondary WBA heavyweight title, so it's you know,

2315
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 2: it's one of those bullshit secondary ones. But yet Daniel

2316
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 2: Dubois is a legit name, and he fought Joe Joyce

2317
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 2: in that you know, unbeaten coming and going fight.

2318
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 3: Between Jake Paul Carters.

2319
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and lost that, and because he broke his eye

2320
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 2: socket and people question his toughness, but this was a

2321
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 2: nice bounce back Trevor Bryant, who had the title. Again,

2322
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 2: this is a title that nobody looks at it really

2323
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,879
Speaker 2: being legit. Although to be fair and other weight classes,

2324
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Gervonte has the same version of this title at one

2325
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: thirty five and we don't tend to criticize that in

2326
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 2: the same level, maybe because Trevor Bryant had the belt

2327
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: in this case and not Gervonte Davis. But this was

2328
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 2: a fight should have won. He did. It was impressive

2329
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 2: by knockout. Nobody was there because Don King's promoting at

2330
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: age ninety and in South Florida is not a boxing

2331
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 2: hotbed and never has.

2332
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 3: I know that we're washed and I fully accept that.

2333
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 3: Have you seen Don King recently? Dude?

2334
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Have you seen any of his interviews in like the

2335
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 2: last two years.

2336
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 3: I saw I saw one on BT Sport.

2337
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 2: It was like it is just I mean, it's always

2338
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 2: been bizarre, but now it's like weaving historical with current

2339
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: politics and like just just weird waves coming out of there.

2340
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 3: He looks like, I mean, the cryptkeeper tails, Oh my god,

2341
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 3: he does.

2342
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 2: What was the guy's catch fase? Did he have one?

2343
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 3: I had a weird laugh. I don't remember, but I

2344
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 3: was like Jesus Christ Don King looks terrible, sure or false?

2345
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: Growing up as a teenager in the nineties met most

2346
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 2: of the time y're debating whether to watch The crypt

2347
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 2: Keeper or watch like Red Shoe Diaries on Showtime, Like

2348
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: you're basically do I want a debate boobs or Gore?

2349
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 3: Which you know was and wasn't Tails from the Crypt

2350
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 3: on HBO.

2351
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes, so it was. It was kind of always competing

2352
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 2: against each other. It's like, do I want the Gore

2353
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 2: here or do I want you know, skin Mask and

2354
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 2: Manuel six on the Showtime?

2355
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 3: All right, that is it for our top five. So

2356
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 3: with that, let's move on quickly if we can. It's

2357
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 3: time where you get to ask us questions. Yeah, it's

2358
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 3: time for dms from dogs.

2359
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: Jake, can I get a little water bottle? Please? You

2360
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 2: know I got a reef?

2361
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 3: Ye? My man, he's got cotton mouth. I can't imagine why.

2362
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 3: All right? Uh from front side, Nah, comply the fuck

2363
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 3: kind of name is that? I work at a Buffalo

2364
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 3: Wild Wings and normally we go into a two hour

2365
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 3: wait for UFC pay per views. This time we didn't

2366
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 3: even have a wait list. Yeah, because casual fans are

2367
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,560
Speaker 3: fucos even with Johanna Glover and Valentina fighting. Why do

2368
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 3: you think the casual fan didn't show up, Doe? This

2369
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 3: is not a mystery. None of those people are major

2370
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 3: pay per view draws.

2371
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 2: And it was in Singapore and it wasn't a deep

2372
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 2: card and there was like a lot conspiring against it.

2373
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 2: And also to be fair, like Jose didn't really promote

2374
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 2: it at an aggressive.

2375
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 3: Level, right, Like, well, they may have promoted it in

2376
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 3: Southeast Asia.

2377
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, actually they did by the way I

2378
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,759
Speaker 2: saw like Valentina and Tyler Santos across like caps.

2379
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I understand something. Folks who all was like, well,

2380
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 3: what does it mean that a.

2381
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 2: Fight is in Like, let's say I just wanted to

2382
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 2: just bring out Jake von Amsterdam real quick. He's getting

2383
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: he's too shy.

2384
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, hold right in all serious folks have asked like,

2385
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 3: what's the difference one of the fights in Singapore versus

2386
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 3: it's in Chicago. If it's going to air normally on

2387
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 3: pay per view time, Well, just think about it. If

2388
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 3: you have a fight in Chicago one, you're gonna have

2389
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 3: Chicago media there, plus all the other North American media

2390
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 3: is gonna you know, uh go to that you're gonna

2391
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 3: have much more assets produced, You're gonna have much more

2392
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 3: mainstream media organs feeding you pay per view news. When

2393
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 3: you put it in Singapore, it changes that polarity where

2394
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: all that is now relevant to that market with those

2395
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 3: media entities. Yes, we covered it, but it doesn't have

2396
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 3: the same pole, and so when you shift it out

2397
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 3: of North America it does change things beyond the fact

2398
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 3: that those none of those people are pay per view

2399
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 3: draws easy answer.

2400
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 2: But by the way, for whatever level UFC actually did promote,

2401
01:35:58,240 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just felt like it wasn't a

2402
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 2: round me as much as even the out of Sonia

2403
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 2: fight coming up at International Fight.

2404
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 3: Week with Max there is more effort around that.

2405
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 2: But boy, coming out of that pay per view doesn't

2406
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: look good now on paper when you look at you're like, oh, yeah,

2407
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 2: that card was benefit.

2408
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 3: The two seventy six card, you would agree is stacked.

2409
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 3: But it is possible that when two seventy six is over,

2410
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 3: two seventy five might.

2411
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 2: Have been a more entertaining event that I wouldn't call

2412
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 2: it a something in the water night, which happens every

2413
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 2: couple of years in the UFC where you're just like

2414
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 2: there's something crazy going on, but it did have more

2415
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 2: drama than any recent pay per view, especially ones that

2416
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: were much deeper I mean agreed. And this is during

2417
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: a stretch in the last year and a half two

2418
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 2: years where it's been constant drama. There's been constant big

2419
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 2: moments too, you know, all.

2420
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 3: Right from punch Drunk Pete he's a he's a regular

2421
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 3: Jack dalea Madelana, which we're going to talk about an

2422
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 3: extra credit showcase some impeccable boxing to secure a knockout

2423
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 3: victory Saturday night. In your opinion, who would you say

2424
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 3: are the top five best pure boxers has a long

2425
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 3: ask question in the UFC today.

2426
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 2: Calvin Cater, Calvin Cater, Max, Max hol Away.

2427
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 3: You know what, I don't know if he's top five.

2428
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 3: Maybe he is, maybe he's not. But I gotta tell

2429
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 3: whose game I love around boxing is Adrian Janez Yes,

2430
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 3: love his boxing MK Yeah, no, no, And I'm not

2431
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 3: saying because he watches like I legitimately love his boxing.

2432
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 3: How about Dustin Poorier, He's in there as well. Any

2433
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 3: women were not thinking of who are like good? Because

2434
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 3: Holly Holm is a boxer and she went to the

2435
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 3: National Hall of fame, which, by the way, we'll talk

2436
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 3: about the end of the show. But she doesn't really

2437
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 3: have a boxing she has a kickboxing style.

2438
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 2: Really really, You're right. Look Cyborg's boxing, especially the efficiency

2439
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 2: and really rounded out where it was just always right

2440
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 2: hand slugging in the beginning. Amanda, you got to give credit.

2441
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 2: I'm not really in a pure box more of an

2442
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 2: MMA power mode. Okay, who is a pure boxer. That's

2443
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 2: an elite female.

2444
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 3: Frankie had some good boxing, but again the takedowns really

2445
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 3: brought it to your wife. More of a kickboxer, right,

2446
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 3: But she doesn't kick a hold on though, so it's

2447
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 3: kicks a lot, dude, were talking about.

2448
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 2: Not on the When I look at her, I think

2449
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 2: more of the hands in terms of how she wins

2450
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 2: fights and how she said that.

2451
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 3: That's the main point anyone in the heavier way. You know,

2452
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 3: Glover's got some decent boxing. Oh, Glover's boxing decent boxing.

2453
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 2: John's boxing is a very good Janda defensively too, Jan

2454
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 2: is very good and uh, Frankmuir became by the end

2455
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: of his career, he really became good with the hands.

2456
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 3: He did. He did all right from Gabriel underscore m

2457
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 3: underscore Diaz. The real question is, did y'all see Brian

2458
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 3: Campbells tweet during the UFC twitter post they have on

2459
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 3: the screen during the stort of be trying. Yeah, apparently

2460
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 3: you made the broadcast.

2461
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 2: I didn't even see it, but I got texted and

2462
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 2: tweeted a lot, which is cool, you know, like, and

2463
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 2: everyone's you know, man, Dana must be pissed. Well, Dana

2464
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 2: wasn't even there wasn't Dana on like a party bus

2465
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 2: with his Yeah, so he was, uh, he was somewhere else.

2466
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm not persona on Grada with the UFC. I just

2467
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 2: happened to be the star of Dana's four minute hit job.

2468
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 2: But but I was apologized to by the right people afterwards.

2469
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 3: So it was I'll never get on screen because I

2470
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 3: know for a fact they don't really care for me

2471
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 3: that much, but they did it prove my credential. So yes,

2472
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 3: that's really all I care. You're not PG either, I mean,

2473
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 3: so what like what's don't I don't no, no, no,

2474
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 3: I don't think that they hate me, like fuck that guy.

2475
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 3: But I don't think that they like me. I think

2476
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 3: they're more like a right that could be wrong, all right?

2477
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 3: From Brantendo sixty four.

2478
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that's we love that guy. Does he work

2479
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 2: with Bispey?

2480
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 3: Think he does?

2481
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2482
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 3: Could we ever see yo wanna on the New Room

2483
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:09,839
Speaker 3: Service diaries?

2484
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 2: Uh?

2485
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 3: I don't have an interest, but maybe BC does. All right?

2486
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 2: So, first of all, of anything you've ever said, where

2487
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 2: it would it would necessitate me to be like fuck

2488
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 2: you right like you dunked?

2489
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 3: And again, can you please not operate under the assumption

2490
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 3: that I give you nothing but bad faith live the

2491
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 3: only can you please operate under the assumption that what, however,

2492
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,560
Speaker 3: however fantastical it might seem to you, I tell you

2493
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 3: the truth on you have two triggers? Were you like

2494
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 3: what just brows my mind? You could tell me I'm

2495
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 3: wrong about shit? I don't you think I'm questioning? If

2496
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 3: you think if I, if you didn't know me and

2497
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 3: I told you I served in the Marine Corps, would

2498
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 3: tell me i'mlying, motherfucker, I have my stripes. Fuck you?

2499
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 3: How about that?

2500
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 2: Your your key trick?

2501
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 3: About that?

2502
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,560
Speaker 2: I mean one time, I you know, one time you

2503
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 2: did will Smith me and we're like, keep my wife's

2504
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 2: name out of your fucking mouth.

2505
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 3: But you're real.

2506
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 2: Your real trigger is if you think I'm using humor

2507
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 2: to really try to question your integrity. Really, I'm just

2508
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 2: using humor. Louts, then you can use the point of

2509
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 2: that was, where were we going on that?

2510
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 3: Oh about service diary?

2511
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 2: Oh? I really don't think that's a genuine response for me.

2512
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 2: Like you're saying you created career and that.

2513
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 3: You could you could bully me into it, but I

2514
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 3: I would not. It would not be a priority for me.

2515
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 2: You don't think that's going to be a fun watch

2516
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 2: with the story, she has, the swagger she has.

2517
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here in your career. I've

2518
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 3: said you're not.

2519
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 2: Interested in details of some of these fights, and in

2520
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,839
Speaker 2: bouncing back like, really you're not. I'm just being genuinely

2521
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 2: you're not. No, I wish you would have taken that

2522
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 2: interview then we could Oh no, no, I tried. Then

2523
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 2: we could be doing this together.

2524
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 3: I tried. It wasn't me.

2525
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 2: Maybe would have no eye contact rule, but it was

2526
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 2: doing this together.

2527
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't. The faults not with me.

2528
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 2: It could be super fenced on the same seat. That's

2529
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 2: he over there with that spring.

2530
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 3: The fault is not with me. Let me assure you

2531
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 3: that is one hundred.

2532
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but if you can, you've forgiven John for.

2533
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 3: Don I don't care about John, all right, that's a difference.

2534
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 3: I listen, I'm not gonna say.

2535
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: You've forgiven me a few times.

2536
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 3: Well, I love you. That's the difference. I'm not going

2537
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 3: to say anything bad about you. Wanna. She deserves to

2538
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 3: have her flowers, that's all gonna say.

2539
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to get her on that couch for you.

2540
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 2: That's right. I'm gonna amaz you. I don't have much, okay.

2541
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 3: And I also made a vow after that whole thing

2542
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 3: blew up that I would never interview her ever again.

2543
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 3: So I'm going to stick to that, all right.

2544
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 2: Mike Perry? How about Mike Perry? No, really really, because

2545
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 2: that might be.

2546
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 3: I don't dislike Mike Perry at all.

2547
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 2: Do you know the stories over ninety minutes that we're

2548
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 2: gonna get that we're gonna surgically pull out of that guy.

2549
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 2: It's going to be amazing because I have a huge

2550
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 2: respect for him, like comedically and as a as an

2551
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 2: absolute badass, even though he's.

2552
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 3: That's a fair point. Yeah, Like, I'll tell you what.

2553
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what if he beats MVP, which you

2554
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 3: can say Oh that would never happen, motherfucker. Keep thinking,

2555
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,639
Speaker 3: you know, combat sports better than the MMA or combat sports. Gods,

2556
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 3: if he beats MVP, I would actually love to have

2557
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 3: him on now that you put it in my forget

2558
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 3: the m VP part of it.

2559
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 2: I'm reaching out to him as soon as the show

2560
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:58,560
Speaker 2: ends and we're getting.

2561
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,839
Speaker 3: You want to try all right. Lastly from Mikey Underscore,

2562
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 3: mow underscore, Miles.

2563
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 2: How many days could you start, producer, Mike that's Mikey worm,

2564
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 2: that's our producer.

2565
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know he had Instagram there.

2566
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 3: How many days could you guys live together in an

2567
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 3: MTV's Real World to now remember back in the DAYBC,

2568
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 3: remember back in the day, there were two competing shows.

2569
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 3: There was Real World and then there was road Rules

2570
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 3: about the same people, but yeah maybe about the same people,

2571
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 3: and then eventually intersected and eventually I just became like

2572
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 3: challenge shows, but one of them had to live in

2573
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: the most like it was. It was the shittiest that

2574
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 3: every people who got Road Rules because the MTV Real

2575
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 3: World crew got to live in like palatial states in

2576
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 3: London and San Francisco and New York. And then if

2577
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 3: you got on road rules, you had to live in

2578
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 3: a fucking RV.

2579
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 2: Yes, with like THEO Vaughn.

2580
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, would like Puck or some shit, although he

2581
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 3: was in San Francisco's what do you think? How long

2582
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 3: can we live in a palatialis stall?

2583
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 2: I will say this, if you look at the energy

2584
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 2: between us in documentaries one and two, both that were

2585
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 2: shot a couple months apart, and both that were very

2586
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 2: built upon the storyline of Luke versus BC. But you know,

2587
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 2: if that even was a rivalry, really tired of being

2588
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 2: around each other that much by like day three.

2589
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Luke, I could live with

2590
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 3: you for a while, but we would eventually fight over

2591
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 3: the like what was in the fridge?

2592
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah no, because think about it, we're in separate rooms here,

2593
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 2: like when we stay in these in the hotels on

2594
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: the road, like we're not living together. I'd give us

2595
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 2: two days.

2596
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 3: But here's the real question. How many other forty year

2597
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 3: old men could you live with? You know what I'm saying,

2598
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 3: Like when you're in your twenty What I'm pointing on

2599
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 3: us when you're twenty, having roommates is like almost not

2600
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 3: like you would you would prefer to have a single apartment,

2601
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,799
Speaker 3: but like, hey, having roommates could be fun. Yeah, at forty,

2602
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 3: I'd just rather drive my car off a bridge, Like

2603
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm not.

2604
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:37,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to live with any of you fos,

2605
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, I don't ever wish the ending of

2606
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 2: either of our marriages. And it's the most concrete important

2607
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 2: thing in my entire life by relationship with God. But

2608
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 2: could you imagine a scenario which we were both down

2609
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 2: on our luck divorce dads, and we you know, decided

2610
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 2: to get an apartment together, and then the mk dot

2611
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 2: cameras just became our life cameras. They were just always

2612
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 2: there and we just did you know, dude.

2613
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 3: We would be like the vultron of sad devorcese dad energy.

2614
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 2: Just like combining, I'd buy a convertible, you'd grow a ponytail.

2615
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:04,719
Speaker 2: We just combined.

2616
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it for our questions here. How what's

2617
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 3: time for your ship? Dude?

2618
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 2: I think we've got good ship. What is my Okay, okay,

2619
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 2: thank you? Yeah it's Mikey. Mormal just texted me. He's

2620
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 2: like already put in the request for Joanna for that couch.

2621
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about it.

2622
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 3: All right, you're gonna be solo on it.

2623
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: I can work with that. What we do every Monday,

2624
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:29,560
Speaker 2: I do and Gaff Pierre helps me out in a

2625
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 2: big way. I scolar the globe for the good and

2626
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, the highs and lows from combat

2627
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 2: sports and beyond. Luke, we call this have you seen

2628
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 2: this ship?

2629
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 3: Have you seen this species?

2630
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: All right, uh, let's start out with our you wanta

2631
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:47,520
Speaker 2: legend appreciation post. Unfortunately, Luke, this is how the legendary

2632
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 2: career ended face down. But do you agree with my

2633
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 2: sort of saying it's almost fans almost saw this violent

2634
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: ending as like a badge for for you wanna in

2635
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 2: the end.

2636
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, given the career

2637
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 3: that she's had, but also it's a badge for Jean

2638
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 3: way Lee.

2639
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 2: Just oh absolutely.

2640
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 3: We haven't talked about that, but for like Johan way Lee. Dude,

2641
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 3: she viciously knocked out Yohanna and viciously knocked out Jessica

2642
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 3: on Groge.

2643
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 2: Yes, pretty fucking impressive. Now did you see that? Oh

2644
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 2: we'll go into the second clip. By the way, you

2645
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 2: said flip that way to get out hands. Yeah, that

2646
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 2: was pretty sick. Real recognizing real behind the scenes here

2647
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 2: Luke as Valentina Chefchenko greeting former you have seen opponent

2648
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 2: and kickboxing opponent Johanna. She gave her a lot of respect.

2649
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:28,799
Speaker 2: I like to see this, Luca.

2650
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 3: Pay Yeah, and also you know how you want to

2651
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,799
Speaker 3: speak Spanish. Danny Sigurta had tweeted a video from Jocelyn Edwards,

2652
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 3: who is from Panama. She was speaking to Valentina and

2653
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 3: Spanish and they were having a moment as well. So

2654
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 3: it wasn't just this, but it was a lot of

2655
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 3: people have both for Yo Wanna and Valentina, like a

2656
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 3: look up to them kind of absolutely.

2657
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 2: Also, Luke y Wanna took one final victory lap after

2658
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 2: she passed the medicals in the fight was complete, walking

2659
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 2: to the bus as the fans gave her a standing ovation.

2660
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 2: This got emotional pretty great, along with most of JJ's

2661
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 2: interviews that she gave after the fight. Rightfully, So it

2662
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 2: was good to see her get that one leg because

2663
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 2: she I mean, you know, whether it's corn or not,

2664
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 2: I mean she she loved being a UFC fighter and

2665
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 2: loved being a star, and you genuinely saw that.

2666
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 3: Came up and you know, something of the people's champion

2667
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 3: as well. I think you know that they You know,

2668
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 3: no one hired this crew to show up here. They

2669
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 3: did this of their own volition. And so I saw

2670
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 3: her open workout before the Androge fight in Dallas, and

2671
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:27,560
Speaker 3: it was her and Androge who worked out. It was

2672
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 3: stepe A. And who did he fight? It was a JDS. Yes,

2673
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 3: and there may have another one. Let me just tell

2674
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 3: her something was in a gym out in Dallas. No

2675
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 3: one got a pop like she did with that crowd,

2676
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 3: not even close. She was far and away the biggest

2677
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 3: star of them all.

2678
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 2: Right, let's hit the proper rundown of the big moments

2679
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 2: from UFC two seventy five in Singapore. Luke, here's Dana

2680
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 2: White's reaction to the main event.

2681
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 3: Why is he purple? Or is that normal?

2682
01:46:50,960 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 2: Dare? No way, no way? Tapped about.

2683
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 3: No way, no way way?

2684
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 2: That was my look. How long would you let on

2685
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 2: that party of myself that I was celebrating Dana White

2686
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 2: the Third's twenty first birthday.

2687
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I couldn't do.

2688
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 2: I not very long, complete with very long? Is it

2689
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 2: complete with the recreation of the January sixth step ascension

2690
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 2: or no? What do you mean, do you think it'd

2691
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 2: be total like bro, you know, aggressive culture that you

2692
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 2: couldn't fit in with.

2693
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably not, not at the stage of my life.

2694
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, I'm sure you got got fired up

2695
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 2: for the constant ground reversals in Yuri prohtsca versus Glover

2696
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 2: to share.

2697
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 3: The best part was when I saw this, I'm like, oh,

2698
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,879
Speaker 3: the crowd's going to react, and sure enough.

2699
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 2: Went like sixty nine dudes. This was Glover basically saying,

2700
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 2: tell me how my asked tastes. Luke, we can clown this,

2701
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 2: but there's a reason why we clowned this. Imagine happened

2702
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 2: to be Yerie in that moment, like this is what

2703
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 2: we do with our careers.

2704
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 3: Like what the hell, dude. There's been times where, you know,

2705
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 3: if you've ever trained at all, you've definitely and I

2706
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 3: hate to say this, I'm gonna get memed for it,

2707
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 3: but there's definitely times where your face goes in places

2708
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 3: that you don't want it to go, and you have

2709
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 3: to smell things you don't want to smell. It's not awesome.

2710
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 3: You have to a martial art, yeah, you have to

2711
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 3: like really be like I love jiu jitsu and wrestling.

2712
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 3: I want to get better because I gotta smell this

2713
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 3: man's balls.

2714
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 2: Look, I mentioned former champion Yan Blokhovich was in the

2715
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,880
Speaker 2: crowd and had a little, uh mixed up dust up

2716
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 2: here with Does this get you more exciting?

2717
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 3: I said to him, I love you, I love you, Jan.

2718
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 3: Let's talk in the cage like talking.

2719
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 2: So Jan was aggressive here, seemed to be like having fun.

2720
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:36,639
Speaker 3: With it, right you look at the eyes on Yan.

2721
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, dude, that's a did he do bat sALS

2722
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 3: before this? But the fuck?

2723
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 2: Look? Would you agree that that could be a betschit

2724
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 2: crazy fight?

2725
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Now Jan is going to try and slow

2726
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 3: it down and make it less. So yes, I think

2727
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 3: Glover was actually a little bit not accommodating, but his

2728
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 3: style accommodated some of that craziness.

2729
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 2: Do you think's gonna shoot? He might? He might have

2730
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 2: a very interesting fight the faces of death, Luke. Here

2731
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 2: was YERI and Glover after this absolute classic. If we

2732
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 2: could zoom in here, I mean, so you want to

2733
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 2: be a UFC fighter, Luke, He's good.

2734
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 3: Lord, By the way, I was thinking about this too.

2735
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 3: Can you imagine how good or how much even more

2736
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,719
Speaker 3: dangerous this will be true for everyone, but especially for Yeerie.

2737
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 3: If they had like a one championship rule set where

2738
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 3: you could knee a down fighter or you could up

2739
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 3: kick a down fighter, dude, YEARI would be a nightmare

2740
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 3: on the ground.

2741
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 2: He would he be pulling out those elbows that Dan

2742
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 2: Ndo hit what's his name with that UFC one ninety

2743
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 2: nine Hector Lombard. Yeah, dude, that was just vicious. Shit, Dude,

2744
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 2: that was like you stole my money type come back

2745
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 2: right there? All right, what do you know about this

2746
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,759
Speaker 2: guy who made his UFC debut high Cry.

2747
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about this one, the.

2748
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 2: Credit stational knockout.

2749
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, watch this though. Here's the thing. Steve Garcia runs

2750
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 3: into him, change his stances, keeps his hands down. A

2751
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 3: lot of times when guys change stances, they their defense

2752
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 3: their defense doesn't follow. And the bigger part was, if

2753
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 3: you notice real closely, he never did much to He

2754
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 3: didn't faint or fake his way in. He just kind

2755
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 3: of rushed his way in and so the guy was

2756
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 3: just able to watch And.

2757
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,560
Speaker 2: That was actually more vicious than Yanna's landing because this

2758
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 2: guy actually hit face.

2759
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he bounced off the well, she bounced a little

2760
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 3: bit too it.

2761
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 2: She her arm kind of blocked it, but yeah, yeah,

2762
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 2: it's still bad.

2763
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 3: But I mean, here's the thing. I don't know how

2764
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 3: hard of a puncher. He is probably pretty good, but

2765
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 3: if you run into a punch, it's just going to

2766
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 3: magnify the power.

2767
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 2: So absolutely women's straw rates. Silvana Gomez Warez Luke got

2768
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 2: Twitter going crazy after this.

2769
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe this knockout. If you just pay attention

2770
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 3: to this, you're like, oh, it's great knockout.

2771
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, it is. It's a sick punch.

2772
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 2: Leang just walks into it, Yeah she does.

2773
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 3: She just walks into range without look, she just walks

2774
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 3: into it. She just walks into range without doing that any.

2775
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 2: Took to finish her as brutal. You don't see power

2776
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 2: like this at one fifteen shades of Androge catching Carolina

2777
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 2: with that left up.

2778
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Match, And I think, by the way, I have

2779
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 3: an in law named Silvana, so it's a sort of

2780
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 3: a small little coincidence. But like I think Gomes war

2781
01:50:56,360 --> 01:51:00,120
Speaker 3: as she's out of Argentina trains in Mexico, so I

2782
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 3: was good to see him.

2783
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 2: I mean, she has to pass through Columbia.

2784
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, although Archie team was pretty fucking far, but uh,

2785
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 3: just sort of interesting to see some of the more

2786
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 3: the Latin American development has out of what's it called

2787
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 3: entrant gym or actually no it's not quite rock Yo'll

2788
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 3: walk that back. Good to see him get good to

2789
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 3: see more development that ship.

2790
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, let's go over to a slow motion of

2791
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 2: the right hand that that just gonna measures her.

2792
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a looping bomb, gets her head

2793
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 3: off the center line and just bop. Look at that.

2794
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, all right, let's keep it going. We we

2795
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 2: had seen a brief clip of it earlier, but here's

2796
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 2: the focus on bakair Jalalov sending Jack Molawat down in

2797
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 2: the eighth and final round. It was that left hand,

2798
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 2: but then the sweeping sort of side hook, same punch

2799
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 2: Alexander Usak used to finish Tony what was his name,

2800
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 2: Luke at Bell you Tony Bell you and that in

2801
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 2: his last cruiserweight fight. Good looking shot. But Luke, did

2802
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 2: you see the ringside angle that was shot by Morning

2803
01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 2: Combat Zone Matt Ryle, who he worked who I know

2804
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 2: first of all, the first positive thing he's done for

2805
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 2: our show. Was provided this video, but he had the

2806
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 2: Brazilian nuts hanging out of his back pocket. Luke, you

2807
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 2: know it's a it's he understands what they do. Yeah,

2808
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 2: keep shooting things fucking on portrait mode, all right, Luke,

2809
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 2: Golden boy from Anaheim, California. Did you see Carlos or

2810
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 2: just like any gratuitous shot at rle we can get

2811
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 2: in upsetting unbeaten Evan Sanchez. Now it's Ortiz in the red,

2812
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 2: look at him. Just put it on, Luke.

2813
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 3: Do you mean the guy has orties written on the

2814
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 3: back of his trunks?

2815
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, the red Yeah, yeah, Oh golly, oh dude.

2816
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 3: How many motherfuckers are falling out of rings these days?

2817
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 2: Do you want the net that's the tenth Do you

2818
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 2: want the valley tudo net at the bottom a little bit?

2819
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 3: Maybe he's something like tighten up the ropes a little

2820
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:43,680
Speaker 3: bit for let's go.

2821
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 2: To the top rank undercard, Luke, it's Dakota Linger knocking

2822
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 2: out jos Way Vargas. Vargas had just gotten sent to

2823
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 2: hell by Jose Zepeda in round one. But he he

2824
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: was a fun guy to watch. But he's going to

2825
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 2: the wrong direction now, Luke. He took a beat in here.

2826
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 3: Went to the body, just covering up, hanging on the ropes.

2827
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 2: It's like, Dakota, do you have to let it linger?

2828
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 3: Do you have to?

2829
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 2: Right?

2830
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 3: I really hope you get in a car crack.

2831
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 2: Oh god, there's another ring apron finished for you.

2832
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, what the fuck is going on?

2833
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right? Look, we mentioned Edgar Berlanga taking a

2834
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 2: bite out of crime in round seven. Here's the footage.

2835
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 3: Dude, what is he doing? Yeah, that's not advisable. I mean,

2836
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 3: what the fuck is he doing? Oh my god, this'll

2837
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 3: beat BC and I greedy.

2838
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 2: He could have could he could have got disqualified?

2839
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 3: You know, straight up, he arguably should have been disqualified,

2840
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 3: which would have been I mean, you want to talk

2841
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 3: about a real decline in his stock. Yeah, got he

2842
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 3: got gifted because it's on the other side of the referee.

2843
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:42,640
Speaker 2: But Jesus South Florida, Daniel Dubois and the Don King

2844
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: main event. Here's the knockout finish against Trevor Bryan.

2845
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 3: Oh he can punch, I'll give him that.

2846
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: It was a short left hand, very short left hand.

2847
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 3: You see that there are that's like you see how

2848
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 3: may people in the audience. That's how many producers work

2849
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 3: on him right there.

2850
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 2: There are more people in studio here than there are

2851
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 2: ordering THHD on their phone by delivery. Yes, yes, oh yeah,

2852
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 2: I know.

2853
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 3: Did you see how much how much Mojong these guys

2854
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 3: were playing?

2855
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 2: We were trying to talk, uh, Luke, We're gonna talk

2856
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 2: about it to close. But the Boxing Hall of Fame,

2857
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 2: International Boxing Hall of Fame there and check out the

2858
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 2: swag from Mayweather Junior and Senior. That's a badass suit

2859
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 2: on Floyd with the star and I love that.

2860
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we couldn't pull it off, although we should, you

2861
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 3: know what, we should try to wear that if we

2862
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 3: ever get nominated for another award. We yet wear this.

2863
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 3: We couldn't pull it off, but I did see that

2864
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 3: Floyd like teared up, like it was a big deal

2865
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 3: for him.

2866
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I love to see that, Luke. Let's go to

2867
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 2: some international MMA thanks to Kaposa. It's a MC fight

2868
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 2: Night one twelve. Check out this entrance from Naraman Abasov.

2869
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 3: You news, are these guys like Cadira related or what

2870
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 3: is this? I don't know, Okay, I'm not saying that

2871
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 3: because of the day.

2872
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 2: You love the art and not the artist, Luke.

2873
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I love the art that's got. This is

2874
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 3: putting UFC to shame. I'm just saying it was like,

2875
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 3: does this end with kadirrav like high fiving someone, like

2876
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 3: where are we with?

2877
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 2: Oh? That's awesome?

2878
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 3: This is the Uzbek flag.

2879
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 2: I believe all of our producers share that stand around.

2880
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 2: They should. They should get all get RUMs and welcome

2881
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 2: me into the studio each time on air, you know.

2882
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 3: They just fart before all, right, drums they're playing.

2883
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 2: Here's a roundup of the wild and weird from combat

2884
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 2: this weekend. Who do you think would win?

2885
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 3: Dude?

2886
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: This is I mean, it's two it's it's there's two

2887
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 2: two legged men in an ass kicking conc.

2888
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 3: I mean this is like, what are we doing not

2889
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 3: on it? Like, on the one hand, on the one hand,

2890
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the guy that's like people

2891
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 3: who have some of these limitations should not be allowed

2892
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 3: to compete in sports. On the other hand, you're only

2893
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 3: putting this and have you seen this ship so you

2894
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 3: can exploit the humor of disabled people. That's really the

2895
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 3: way we're doing right.

2896
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 2: So I don't want to like, you know, did you

2897
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 2: know they want get their hand raised? Like I don't

2898
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't even care what is I don't want I

2899
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 2: don't want this. I want to go to the next slide.

2900
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 3: Okay, here is w Camalbe promoting us on TV and

2901
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 3: you're like, yo, let's watch Armless Mental each other.

2902
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 2: I just thought it was interesting. Okay, let's go over this, Luke.

2903
01:55:56,200 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 2: Celebrity bloxing blocks back. China gets worked up by Alicia Meghan.

2904
01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't know much about these two, but look at

2905
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: who the referee is, Sugarta Evans. Bro.

2906
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 3: Dude, is my hair shot?

2907
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 2: We should have paid you not to do this.

2908
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean, this is not me objectify her. This is

2909
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 3: just the reality of black. China's ass has gravitation. Did

2910
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 3: you see her in the Takashi six nine video with

2911
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 3: the sprinkles.

2912
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 2: The rest the handicapped joker that reference.

2913
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 3: The other one's wearing a thong? Was like, I need

2914
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 3: to find something that's incredibly exploitative. What do I do? Dude?

2915
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 2: Should Rashad be above this or is a paycheck of paycheck?

2916
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 3: Let me explain them to you. If someone was like,

2917
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 3: I need you to referee this and Rahad is not able,

2918
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 3: could you do it? I'd be the first guy in line.

2919
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 2: Luke there was a knockout on this undercard that looks

2920
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 2: so pro wrestling. I don't even know how to describe it.

2921
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 2: Check this out?

2922
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 3: Look?

2923
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 2: Oh god, is that Rick Flair? I mean, what is

2924
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 2: happening here? I mean? Was have you ever seen anything

2925
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 2: like that? Luke I have on a don't Yeah, let's

2926
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 2: one more time. It's great, that it's great. All right,

2927
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 2: let's go to the BKFC made event. Remember Alan Belcher, Yeah, dude,

2928
01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 2: he looks fucking jit. He's now a heavyweight. He took

2929
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 2: on Big Frank Tate who had.

2930
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 3: Belcher.

2931
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 2: So Tate had beaten Joey beltran in like thirty seconds,

2932
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 2: and now Alan Belcher comes in and takes us. Dude,

2933
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 2: look at this explosion of what is that? Sweat water? Vile?

2934
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 2: What is that?

2935
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 3: It looked like coconut milk or water or whatever.

2936
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 2: Like yogurt milk or some yogurt soda or some ship

2937
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 2: would you drink yogurt sodas?

2938
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 3: All right, more on that to come.

2939
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what came out of his body, but

2940
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 2: it was weird. All right. Hey, Family Feud had a

2941
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 2: celebrity boxing addition, and Riddick Bow was on there, which

2942
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, I don't know, but check

2943
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 2: this out, big daddy. Some guys are so lonely they'll

2944
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 2: go out on the date with their.

2945
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 3: Who Joe.

2946
01:57:55,160 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 2: Joe Mama, Dude, that's pretty badass. I didn't I didn't

2947
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 2: think he had that in and we This is not dude.

2948
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 3: I don't mind old people getting thrown off roofs and

2949
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 3: ship like you like or whatever or like you know whatever. Dude,

2950
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 3: you have shown like seven clips in a row making

2951
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 3: fun of people who were for one reason or another,

2952
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 3: that was funny.

2953
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 2: He delivered. He did a decent Steve Harvey, he was

2954
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 2: Sully Stullenberger.

2955
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 3: Dude.

2956
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 2: He landed that plane. Man, it was not it was

2957
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 2: a rough ride, but he got there. Okay, you know

2958
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Oh my god? Wow? All right, Luke Blue,

2959
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this picture from the

2960
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 2: NBA Finals.

2961
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 3: Did you get that from both of ye? Both right?

2962
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 2: ESPN's Brian Winhurst. Luke is unfortunately this is BC talking

2963
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 2: to your Yeah, this is all of us talking to

2964
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,800
Speaker 2: hot chicks at the NBA Finals. Wow. I mean I'm

2965
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 2: sure this context right.

2966
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 3: Could hey listen, this storm is coming. Could Brian Windhorse

2967
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 3: put his jacket over the State of Florida? Could that

2968
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 3: thing be bigger?

2969
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 2: Seriously, dude, you talking? I'm not okay. I know that's

2970
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 2: eyes at the jacket handicapped joke from earlier and now

2971
01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 2: seems tame. What are we doing here? Bro?

2972
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 3: You know, did I ever tell you one time what

2973
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 3: Alcer overhim did when I was on set with who

2974
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 3: was the Nick Nole? Ever tell you what he did?

2975
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 3: We don't sit with nickt your phone out?

2976
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 2: He should.

2977
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 3: So we had we had Nick noele on on the

2978
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 3: set and by the way, I love Nick.

2979
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's in there for the King of Connecticut.

2980
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually, you know, what's a fair point. I hadn't

2981
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 3: thought about that, and I remember it was over and

2982
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 3: then we were all kind of chatting. Alcer over him

2983
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 3: grabs nick noodle and like the like the arm where

2984
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 3: it's missing and did this and like looked at it.

2985
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 3: You know, I was like, Alser, I don't, I don't

2986
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 3: I love you.

2987
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that's I feel like everyone that's been

2988
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 2: on like an extended shoot with Alistair has weird.

2989
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 3: Stories like that, where then just he's super friendly. And

2990
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 3: then when I saw him in DC, he put me

2991
01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 3: in a rear neckd choke while I was waiting for

2992
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 3: my uber. I'll tell you that, I'm sitting there waiting

2993
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 3: for my uber and pitch darkness and all of a

2994
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 3: sudden cool, you know, and I was like BC and

2995
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 3: no it was alistair over and he was choking me

2996
01:59:59,000 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 3: from the bay. He was nice.

2997
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 2: I like, here's your combat sports interview of the week.

2998
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 2: I've joked up.

2999
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 3: And anybody you won't take up. People want the rest

3000
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 3: of miamiy I'll be in to stay looke.

3001
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 2: That gentleman wearing pink is made for this game, Luke.

3002
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 2: All right?

3003
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 3: Is the joke that he was crying so we have

3004
02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 3: to make fun of him? Is that the idea?

3005
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a very emotional speech.

3006
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 3: Listen as a guy who's done speeches like that, only

3007
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:37,440
Speaker 3: worse when he's been drinking. I don't let he who

3008
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 3: is without standing cast the first out.

3009
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, I also believe I belong here, Luke.

3010
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I got I'm like more like mayonnaise.

3011
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 2: I got nowhere else to go. All right, here's some

3012
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 2: quick hitters, Luke. Would you try these food concoctions? How

3013
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:55,360
Speaker 2: about yogurt soda? I genuinely hope you get shot in

3014
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 2: the face with dude, I would drink the crap out

3015
02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:58,400
Speaker 2: of it. I don't even care what's in it. That

3016
02:00:58,520 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 2: is so intriguing.

3017
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 3: I have to tell you though, like yogurty drinks or

3018
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 3: like obviously my mom's from from Lebanon, it's not specific

3019
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 3: to them, but like, the Middle East has so many

3020
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 3: yogurty drinks and they're all terrible.

3021
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 2: No, they're all good, I know.

3022
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I love Middle Eastern food. I

3023
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 3: love it. But the but the amount of yogurt drinks

3024
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 3: is over the line.

3025
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 2: You know, the best drink in the world is the

3026
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 2: generic taie iced tea that you would get like you know,

3027
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 2: your local type place around the corner. That shit's amazing.

3028
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 3: That's the best drink in the world.

3029
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 5: It is.

3030
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 2: I've been, I've been. I've been in some parts of

3031
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 2: the world.

3032
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 3: Luke okay I, I don't think you've ever left the country.

3033
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,440
Speaker 2: I have been in Doha, but I've been in Boja

3034
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 2: a lot. You know what I'm saying, Boha Boja, these.

3035
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 3: Nuts it makes sense, that doesn't even make sense. Riddick bo.

3036
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:42,560
Speaker 2: Jo, Mama, did you walk into that like pachi?

3037
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 3: I didn't walk into anything. I know you were just

3038
02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 3: making you literally go schmacks doesn't mean anything. There's no

3039
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 3: joke there, Luke. Would you try to edibles before the show?

3040
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 2: This is called a Korean corn dog. Let's zoom in here.

3041
02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 3: Korean is amazing.

3042
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:00,520
Speaker 2: This is a street vendor here, and I have to right,

3043
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 2: that's some batteries. It's probably is that is that like

3044
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 2: sweet potatoes? Maybe?

3045
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh, salt or sugar?

3046
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm old. Yeah, I'm all in.

3047
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah that is that is? Yeah? Hell yeah, thank you

3048
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 2: Korean corn dog. Would you try this, Luke. I think

3049
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 2: they call this the the methane banana.

3050
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 3: I can't believe they're white. It seems so out of

3051
02:02:31,480 --> 02:02:32,120
Speaker 3: character for them.

3052
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't try that.

3053
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I mean, if you had, I wouldn't. I

3054
02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 3: want to show this to like these like hardcore evangelicals

3055
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 3: who are like, oh, you know, evolution is not real.

3056
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, look at these primates.

3057
02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, one more? Would you try? It's not food.

3058
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 2: It's a shaving technique to trim up your beard. Maybe

3059
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:53,240
Speaker 2: get a little bit more.

3060
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 3: Uh. These guy's using like the old school lawnmower.

3061
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 2: I think that's like, is he like having a lip

3062
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 2: orgasm with that? That that's a little aggressive.

3063
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:01,720
Speaker 3: You ever see those people who are too cheap to

3064
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:04,040
Speaker 3: buy like to push more with gas and electricity, so

3065
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 3: they have just like the blades that rotate.

3066
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:07,160
Speaker 2: I lived in the house as a kid that had

3067
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 2: like a yard this big, and my dad had one

3068
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:10,200
Speaker 2: of those that was weird, you know, like you can

3069
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 2: get your foot it look like.

3070
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:12,840
Speaker 3: And I want to be clear, like all the people

3071
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 3: who are too cheaping. I have one neighbor by the

3072
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 3: way who's like two blocks down. He does this ship

3073
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 3: and I'm always like, dude, your lawn is the worst

3074
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 3: looking lawn in the neighborhood. Just put some fucking gasoline

3075
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 3: in the trimmer. And you don't.

3076
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 2: But you're the guy who your neighbors came over and

3077
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:27,640
Speaker 2: knocked on your door and were like, hey, do you

3078
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:29,040
Speaker 2: need us to help you weed wack?

3079
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 3: And okay, I was a single guy back there. It's

3080
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:32,480
Speaker 3: different now.

3081
02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, what's the best way to wake up

3082
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:39,040
Speaker 2: a drunk friend? Option one pour some Stella artois and

3083
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 2: his cochlear eye. He's still going, Look, he's still going.

3084
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 3: Please tell me a car hits.

3085
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 2: Or if your friend is bam bam tied toy VASA.

3086
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 2: Option two is you can r kelly him, Luke.

3087
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 3: Or you can't pee on you?

3088
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let on you? Or yes, oh my god, hey Touly,

3089
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 2: it's it's hardy. Yeah all right, Uh that's great, that's

3090
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:20,160
Speaker 2: that's dude.

3091
02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:24,680
Speaker 3: That is Uh. I don't I'm like legitimately frightened to

3092
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:26,720
Speaker 3: party with taytoo Voss. I would. I don't know that.

3093
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 2: I cannot with you on that. Not scorpions of the week, Luke.

3094
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about the seventies and eighties rock band.

3095
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 3: Right rockman like a rock I'll look at this fatman,

3096
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 3: look at this dumb beetle.

3097
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:44,640
Speaker 2: He thought he was big boy Chris Barnett and he

3098
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 2: turns out he wasn't.

3099
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:48,120
Speaker 3: Luca. Is that is? That is, carm I hope you

3100
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:49,680
Speaker 3: got paralyzed your piece of ship.

3101
02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 2: I actually found a worst scorpion. I hope it didn't

3102
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 2: end in death or paralysis or we can't show it.

3103
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:54,840
Speaker 2: But check this out, Luke.

3104
02:04:56,280 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 3: Oh my oh, the American football is that I like,

3105
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,880
Speaker 3: the guy who spears of is not even remotely trying

3106
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:06,840
Speaker 3: to tackle him. It's just injury, Luke.

3107
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:08,640
Speaker 2: If you had a scorpion problem in your house. You

3108
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 2: can call the bug guy. But how about the monster

3109
02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 2: the exterminator? Yeah, how about the monster in Iowa? A

3110
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:18,600
Speaker 2: new a doing Japanese bugs breay commercials. Check this out, Luke,

3111
02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 2: I hate scorpions.

3112
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 3: See fighting scorpions are just like venom. Bro. You ever

3113
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 3: seen those Japanese shows that they have like giant bugs

3114
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:36,080
Speaker 3: fight each other. I'm not into that, but praying Manton says,

3115
02:05:36,120 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 3: you can see it on YouTube, Luke. A lot of

3116
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 3: people sending me young Luke in the wild. This is

3117
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:42,400
Speaker 3: you showing up in a Bloomberg uk ad if you

3118
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:43,280
Speaker 3: got your shit together?

3119
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 2: What do you think?

3120
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 3: ABC caught Big Luke on a Moonlight Express and figures

3121
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 3: in all the pies. That's right, I'm everywhere ox you

3122
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 3: that guy's Yeah, but look look how gray I am

3123
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:53,960
Speaker 3: versus that dude.

3124
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:55,920
Speaker 2: You could fix that pretty easily.

3125
02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 3: There's nothing to fix be see. This is how your

3126
02:05:58,160 --> 02:05:59,320
Speaker 3: God intended.

3127
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 2: All right, Luke? Uh? We we show a lot of male,

3128
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 2: white male hard l's. Do we show enough females taking

3129
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:08,040
Speaker 2: hard el's.

3130
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:08,840
Speaker 3: Here we go.

3131
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,800
Speaker 2: Look I call this drunken butt to butt.

3132
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 3: Dude? Have you noticed? Is it me or is it

3133
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:18,400
Speaker 3: like fat white women have the worst balance of any

3134
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 3: creature in the world.

3135
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 2: Speaking of large women in bad balance, Luke, let's go

3136
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:22,879
Speaker 2: to the gym.

3137
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:29,600
Speaker 3: Oh lady, Oh no, dude, I oh god, yes, Oh god, dude.

3138
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 2: I see these.

3139
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:32,240
Speaker 3: Ladies and it's not just them, it's the dudes too.

3140
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 3: Try to do box jumps, which are good for you,

3141
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:39,280
Speaker 3: and all of them grossly overestimate their ups. Have you

3142
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 3: noticed that?

3143
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,160
Speaker 2: Yep, it's a constant problem. And I see dudes.

3144
02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:43,880
Speaker 3: So she The one thing I'll say in her benefit

3145
02:06:43,960 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 3: is she at least got one that's like a little

3146
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:47,520
Speaker 3: soft on the box. I see the guys who take

3147
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:49,960
Speaker 3: like the wooden ones, and then they slam their shins

3148
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:50,839
Speaker 3: into it constantly.

3149
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:54,320
Speaker 2: You ever see those older ladies who miss uh diagnose

3150
02:06:54,720 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 2: like a funhouse circular wheel? What spinning wheel got?

3151
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:05,880
Speaker 3: Big birth is about to go for a ride.

3152
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:08,440
Speaker 2: Look at her.

3153
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 3: She looks like she's doing a bad impression of great dings.

3154
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't think she got out on her own. I

3155
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 2: think they had to remove her. Look that's interesting. All right.

3156
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:20,120
Speaker 2: Let's get to the final stretch here. Let's show some

3157
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:23,320
Speaker 2: MMA fighters living regular lives out in the wild. Luke,

3158
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 2: what if Ryan Bader was one of us. Here's him

3159
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:28,120
Speaker 2: at a uh he's about to clo oh yeah that

3160
02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:30,080
Speaker 2: Pinata or anyone else.

3161
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 3: Do Ryan jesus wow damn yo, remind me not to

3162
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 3: pick up handy at Ryan Bater's yard.

3163
02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 2: Scout her deliver and uh deliverance show ct All and

3164
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 2: Wong Luke, I mean this is great you here, kid? Wow? Okay, Luke.

3165
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 2: Joey Beltran, former UFC heavyweight, sealed the deal of course

3166
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:59,560
Speaker 2: with Beltran and now sealed it over his navel. Like

3167
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 2: you have a tattoo over your navel. It doesn't say

3168
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 2: thug life. What do you think about the intention? Forget

3169
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 2: the technique because you always rip on people's nice tattoos.

3170
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:08,680
Speaker 2: How about the intention?

3171
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 3: You must be in love.

3172
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:12,400
Speaker 2: He must be in love I'm talking about Okay, that's

3173
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 2: my favorite power couple in combat sports.

3174
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 3: That that might only be true.

3175
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I chair for them more so than Brian Ortega.

3176
02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 2: And it's very close and cort Chris Widman doing some

3177
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 2: dog drills with the with some local police.

3178
02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 3: Hair Luke, I've been invited to do these every Yeah,

3179
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 3: very good reasons.

3180
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 2: You can't get the dog off of that dog is no, no,

3181
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:41,240
Speaker 2: I was like, I smelled some Maderson silver on that.

3182
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:42,280
Speaker 2: Let me, let me get in on that.

3183
02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:43,880
Speaker 3: And I like how it went for the leg. It's

3184
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:45,960
Speaker 3: like you couldn't go for his arm, which isn't his injured?

3185
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:50,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's great. I'm just saying, Luke, this is

3186
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 2: how I toughen up backstage before MK broadcast to deal

3187
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:54,720
Speaker 2: with your bullshit.

3188
02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:00,360
Speaker 3: God oh god, god.

3189
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 2: Guys an o g oh, he likes it. I think

3190
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 2: he kind of likes it.

3191
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:10,440
Speaker 3: These guys who are like I don't feel anything about testicles.

3192
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 3: They're not really bragging in the way you think you will.

3193
02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 2: And finally, Luke, this guy uh no, one needs to

3194
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 2: say who he is. He's got his title right behind him. Luke,

3195
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 2: lets zoom in on this.

3196
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 3: Can you take our picture of shirt? Can you move

3197
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 3: a little to your right?

3198
02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 2: Ainal K, I'm sure he is, Luke. Okay, they look

3199
02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:29,600
Speaker 2: happy though, I'm sure he is.

3200
02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:32,520
Speaker 3: He's got the kind of mustache that just screams an king.

3201
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the share of the week, Luke. I hope

3202
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:35,840
Speaker 2: you I hope you've seen it.

3203
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, hopefully they enjoy their yogurt soda all right,

3204
02:09:40,680 --> 02:09:42,360
Speaker 3: p See, I want to mention this before we get

3205
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 3: out of here. Boxing had a big day yesterday the

3206
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 3: International Boxing Hall of Fame. Let me explain how this works.

3207
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 3: We talked about it on Friday, but more so, well,

3208
02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:54,360
Speaker 3: there was three classes. They couldn't enter them because of COVID,

3209
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 3: so you had twenty one and then twenty two. I'm

3210
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:57,800
Speaker 3: just gonna rattle through that.

3211
02:09:57,880 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, the first classes to ever involve

3212
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:01,560
Speaker 2: women as well, So it's sort of all coming together.

3213
02:10:01,680 --> 02:10:03,840
Speaker 3: So here's who got in. I was gonna read straight down.

3214
02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 3: Miguel Coto, Roy Jones, Junior James Tony, Regina Holmich, Holly Holm,

3215
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 3: Vladimir Klitschko, Floyd Mayweather Junior, andre Ward, Leila Ali and Wolf,

3216
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:16,520
Speaker 3: Bernard Hopkins, Wine Men, Will Marquez, Shane Mosley, Marten see

3217
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 3: a riker, dude.

3218
02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 2: This is like a decade of Hall of Famers in

3219
02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:19,440
Speaker 2: one day.

3220
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 3: That's like when the Avengers meet the X Men. That

3221
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:23,240
Speaker 3: is an insane like I was.

3222
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:27,040
Speaker 2: Gonna argue because Floyd Floyd showed up. You saw that too.

3223
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:28,600
Speaker 2: He ended up giving a speech in which he was

3224
02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 2: very emotional and cried and really showed how much he

3225
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 2: freaking loves this game and how he's able now to

3226
02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 2: like relax and breathe out. Now I say that now

3227
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 2: he's still I think there's a press conference coming up

3228
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:41,760
Speaker 2: today to announce his next rison rise in exhibition. But

3229
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 2: you get the point. You know, he got to the

3230
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:46,240
Speaker 2: finish line. He did it his own way, perfection. Would

3231
02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:48,000
Speaker 2: you argue that he's the type of star and I

3232
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 2: know this was a unique circumstance. Three classes had to

3233
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:52,000
Speaker 2: go in as one because of COVID that he almost

3234
02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 2: deserves his own you know, sometimes when someone's so great,

3235
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:56,400
Speaker 2: they get their own year. They're the only ones going

3236
02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. He almost deserves that. Yet

3237
02:10:58,600 --> 02:10:59,920
Speaker 2: he had to kind of share the marquis with the

3238
02:11:00,160 --> 02:11:01,000
Speaker 2: Roy Jones.

3239
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:03,520
Speaker 3: Hockey and Roy Jones because Roy Jones was He got

3240
02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 3: interviewed by our compatriots a showtime boxing on them for

3241
02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 3: the podcast Raskin and Mulvane.

3242
02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:10,600
Speaker 2: By the way, their interview series that they did with

3243
02:11:10,640 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 2: all the Hall famers, it's a fantastic but they But

3244
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:14,800
Speaker 2: I think Raskin had asked him, like, you know, about

3245
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:16,600
Speaker 2: being a gifted fighter, and he kind of like lost

3246
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 2: his ship and what he said was did you hear

3247
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 2: what he said?

3248
02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:21,040
Speaker 3: That he wasn't just a gift fighter. He had outworked everyone,

3249
02:11:21,120 --> 02:11:23,960
Speaker 3: but he actually had said that like I'm better than

3250
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:26,160
Speaker 3: everyone else up here, and I'm like, well, Roy, I

3251
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:27,600
Speaker 3: certain have a lot of respect for you, but that's

3252
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:28,840
Speaker 3: a very bold statement to make.

3253
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:31,880
Speaker 2: Roy also rapped during his acceptance speech, which was awesome.

3254
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 2: By the way, like to have the balls, you would say,

3255
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:36,840
Speaker 2: the non self awareness, but it's also kind of balls.

3256
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:39,400
Speaker 2: Like whenever I've interviewed Roy through the years and I've

3257
02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:41,880
Speaker 2: asked him about his his rap skills, and by the way,

3258
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,680
Speaker 2: he does get respect from the standpoint of any celebrity

3259
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 2: athletes that have crossed over and legitimately tried to rap,

3260
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:49,480
Speaker 2: they've always called his stuff like timeless, Like it actually

3261
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:51,720
Speaker 2: is pretty good, you know, like it's it's the best

3262
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:53,840
Speaker 2: for the most part, although some people do like Shack

3263
02:11:54,120 --> 02:11:58,240
Speaker 2: and this early stuff. Okay, his early stuff was not bad.

3264
02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:01,120
Speaker 3: Okay, it was what it was, but Shack been entertaining also.

3265
02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 2: But to have the balls to like, let's play the

3266
02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:06,200
Speaker 2: music and then to just deliver bars during your Hall

3267
02:12:06,200 --> 02:12:09,440
Speaker 2: of Fame, like that's pretty badass. That's I mean, that

3268
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:10,200
Speaker 2: is Roy right there.

3269
02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:11,440
Speaker 3: So I'm glad he did that. You know it is

3270
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:14,120
Speaker 3: last but not least. Of course, in conjunction with this news,

3271
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:17,400
Speaker 3: andre Ward was entered into the Hall of Fame. Showtime

3272
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:21,320
Speaker 3: has a sports documentary coming out about him in early

3273
02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:23,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Now I don't have a whole lot

3274
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 3: of details about it just yet.

3275
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:27,480
Speaker 2: I believe it's a lebron James Maverick Carter.

3276
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:30,360
Speaker 3: Yes, Uninterrupted, which is the company, and.

3277
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:33,400
Speaker 2: Also it's the whole premise. Here is andre Ward in

3278
02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 2: his own words. I think I reference this a couple

3279
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 2: of days ago, and I'm kay Luke that you know,

3280
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,280
Speaker 2: he had a life that some people think they know him,

3281
02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 2: but if you really knew what he came up growing

3282
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,960
Speaker 2: up in Oakland with his parents addicted to drugs and

3283
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:45,839
Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff he's gone through. And obviously

3284
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:48,480
Speaker 2: he had such a non traditional career. Remember he sat

3285
02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 2: out in the midst of his prime like two three

3286
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:53,640
Speaker 2: years to go to court and battle his ex promoter

3287
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:56,240
Speaker 2: Dan Goosen, who by the way, posthumously was inducted into

3288
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,080
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame as well. So it was a loaded

3289
02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:01,200
Speaker 2: weekend beyond just the in ring partsicipants. But you know,

3290
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,200
Speaker 2: I like this idea in this project, not just because

3291
02:13:04,280 --> 02:13:06,840
Speaker 2: andre Ward became who he was because the show Time

3292
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:08,160
Speaker 2: in a lot of the ways. He fought five times

3293
02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:11,760
Speaker 2: on Showbox, then entered the Super six super middleweight tournament

3294
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:14,680
Speaker 2: as sort of like the wild card, you know, unproven

3295
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:17,480
Speaker 2: young name Olympic gold medalist, and then he you know,

3296
02:13:17,600 --> 02:13:20,120
Speaker 2: became a star, beating names like Carl Froch and Michael

3297
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 2: Kessler and just absolutely yeah, just absolutely dazzled through that tournament.

3298
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:27,440
Speaker 2: It's good to see him kind of come back. And

3299
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:30,000
Speaker 2: I thought his interview with Al Bernstein that aired on

3300
02:13:30,160 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 2: the Showbox broadcast on Friday. Al was part of our

3301
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 2: team and was doing a bunch of interviews, was just

3302
02:13:34,240 --> 02:13:37,240
Speaker 2: so genuine and like and you saw like like some

3303
02:13:37,320 --> 02:13:41,280
Speaker 2: people I think under right Ward because he handled his

3304
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:43,760
Speaker 2: career the way he wanted to, meaning he just walked

3305
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:45,760
Speaker 2: off at his thirty three right, you know, or maybe

3306
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 2: they'll be like yeah, or maybe they thought he had

3307
02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 2: lost the first fight to cove Lev, when I I

3308
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:51,960
Speaker 2: think that the judges got it right. And then you know,

3309
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:53,920
Speaker 2: there was also low blows that knocked out cove Lev

3310
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,040
Speaker 2: and the rematches didn't get called. So there's always reason

3311
02:13:56,080 --> 02:13:57,720
Speaker 2: for people to go, oh, you know, I hate that guy.

3312
02:13:57,800 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 2: Or whatever, or maybe they don't like that his nickname

3313
02:13:59,680 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 2: is Son of God and they think it's pretentious. Like

3314
02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:04,160
Speaker 2: whatever you think about him, he was great and he

3315
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:05,920
Speaker 2: did it on his own terms, and he could fight

3316
02:14:06,040 --> 02:14:08,920
Speaker 2: every style, and when he was active, he was always

3317
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:11,160
Speaker 2: looking to make fight the biggest guys available. He's going

3318
02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:13,800
Speaker 2: to have a weird Abib like legacy where it's really

3319
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:16,760
Speaker 2: hard to make apples and apples comparisons with him and

3320
02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:18,480
Speaker 2: other guys. It's not that we never really saw him

3321
02:14:18,520 --> 02:14:21,040
Speaker 2: tested or he didn't fight anybody. It's just that we

3322
02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:22,800
Speaker 2: would have liked for him to have almost double the

3323
02:14:22,840 --> 02:14:24,800
Speaker 2: activity if we could be greedy, right, we would want

3324
02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:27,360
Speaker 2: to see him against everybody across two divisions that was

3325
02:14:27,400 --> 02:14:30,080
Speaker 2: ever around in his era. We didn't get that. But still,

3326
02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:34,040
Speaker 2: like he's I think he's like the second youngest inductee ever.

3327
02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:36,640
Speaker 2: He's on thirty eight right now, Like you got to

3328
02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:38,080
Speaker 2: give that guy respect. I think it's going to be

3329
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:40,120
Speaker 2: a very interesting documentary to really see like how he

3330
02:14:40,240 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 2: was wired, because he was always such a poised and

3331
02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:45,760
Speaker 2: private public persona that you know, so that turned people

3332
02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:48,280
Speaker 2: away in some cases, but you know the real guy underneath.

3333
02:14:48,280 --> 02:14:49,760
Speaker 2: I always thought Andre, who was one of the best

3334
02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:52,080
Speaker 2: broadcasters in the game, by the way, is just such

3335
02:14:52,080 --> 02:14:53,640
Speaker 2: a genuine good dude, and I don't think he ever

3336
02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:56,800
Speaker 2: got a fair break from the American public when it

3337
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 2: came to boxing. I think two people found the one

3338
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:00,440
Speaker 2: thing they didn't like about him and just went with

3339
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:02,360
Speaker 2: it and kind of missed how great he really was.

3340
02:15:02,440 --> 02:15:04,120
Speaker 3: Dude, he was great. Yeah, kind of like me. When

3341
02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:04,959
Speaker 3: you talk about.

3342
02:15:07,080 --> 02:15:08,360
Speaker 2: We need each other at the end of the day,

3343
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:09,000
Speaker 2: lot's true. We do.

3344
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:11,600
Speaker 3: All right, that's just for us for today. We appreciate

3345
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:13,640
Speaker 3: you guys watching. We'll be back on Wednesday. We have

3346
02:15:13,720 --> 02:15:15,120
Speaker 3: more to shoot today. It won't be out today, but

3347
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:15,760
Speaker 3: we're gonna shoot.

3348
02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:15,960
Speaker 2: Well.

3349
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:18,320
Speaker 3: Extra credit will be out, but we have a lot

3350
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:20,600
Speaker 3: more to do today. So well, some exciting projects coming

3351
02:15:20,680 --> 02:15:22,880
Speaker 3: your way. I want to remind folks you can catch

3352
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:24,920
Speaker 3: BC on Showbox, but there's all kinds of stuff on

3353
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:26,880
Speaker 3: Showtime at belltore and other boxing and everything else that

3354
02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:29,320
Speaker 3: goes on Showtime, Showtime dot Com thirty day free trial.

3355
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:30,400
Speaker 3: You like it, you can keep it. If not, you

3356
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 3: can bounce of course, Morningcombat dot Store for all the merch.

3357
02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:35,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't think this was like a top twenty

3358
02:15:35,200 --> 02:15:35,919
Speaker 2: five episode.

3359
02:15:35,960 --> 02:15:36,640
Speaker 3: But it was a good one.

3360
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:38,360
Speaker 2: But you know that was we brought it today. We

3361
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:39,880
Speaker 2: absolutely it was good. It was really good.

3362
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:43,280
Speaker 3: Also Morningcombat at gmail dot com to reach the show

3363
02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:46,120
Speaker 3: for any reason, including Wednesday's fans ups and then Friday's

3364
02:15:46,640 --> 02:15:47,440
Speaker 3: any final thoughts.

3365
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 2: No, but thank you folks for watching us following what

3366
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:52,720
Speaker 2: we do here. We love you. Okay, we'll see you

3367
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:54,160
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas early July.

3368
02:15:54,400 --> 02:15:55,160
Speaker 3: Okay, yep.

3369
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:59,120
Speaker 2: Be well. And you know, Luke just you know, gaines, loyal,

3370
02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:00,040
Speaker 2: ex girlfriends, all.

3371
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:03,440
Speaker 3: That for Malka Showtime CBS Sports. That's Brian Campbell. I'm

3372
02:16:03,480 --> 02:16:06,320
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas. Until that next time they all of your gains,

3373
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:06,960
Speaker 3: be loyal.