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Speaker 1: On January twelfth, two thousand and two, sixteen year old

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Speaker 1: Jefferson Parish, Louisiana, where a successful artist named Corey Miller

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Speaker 1: was slated to introduce a new hip hop group. But

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Speaker 1: before they even took the stage, a fight broke out

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Speaker 1: and Steve Thomas was fatally shot. When the police arrived,

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Speaker 1: it was allegedly rumored that Corey was involved, but when

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Speaker 1: specifically asked about Corey, none of the witnesses substantiated that

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Speaker 1: rumor until a week later, leading to his arrest, two trials,

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Speaker 1: and ultimately a non unanimous jury verdict, all of which

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Speaker 1: may well have been prejudiced by Corey's stage name C Murder.

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Speaker 1: Romful Conviction, where we've got a case out of Jefferson Parish, Louisiana,

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Speaker 1: involving a once celebrated hip hop artist, Corey Miller, also

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Speaker 1: known as C murderer. Now he and his brother's master

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Speaker 1: p and Silk the Shaker had a number of hits

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Speaker 1: collaborated with Snoop until his situation drastically changed. And here

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Speaker 1: we are twenty three years later, where he's grateful to

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Speaker 1: have the support of one of his fiercest advocates, Kim Kardashian. Kim,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me back on.

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Speaker 1: Were you a fan of Corey's music before you knew

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Speaker 1: about his case?

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Speaker 3: I definitely was.

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Speaker 2: I definitely knew about The No Limit Soldiers and I

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Speaker 2: love New Orleans. But years later, the singer Monica called

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Speaker 2: me and was like, you have to help me with

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Speaker 2: A dear friend of mine told me all about the case.

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Speaker 2: And there's like a network of us, right so it's

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Speaker 2: like you and Scott Budnick and Jessica Jackson and Aaron Haney, and.

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Speaker 3: We've been working on it for a while.

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad that we can be here to talk

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Speaker 2: about Corey's case today.

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Speaker 1: And calling in from a Louisiana penitentiary, the man himself,

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Speaker 1: Corey Miller, thank Jo Jeff and to help tell his story.

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Speaker 1: Corey's appellat attorney.

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Speaker 3: Jane Hogan, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is a Louisiana story where we've seen so

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Speaker 1: many many wrongful convictions marked by non unanimous jury verdicts,

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Speaker 1: which was a legal practice as late as twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: when they could convict you with as few as ten

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Speaker 1: that had its roots in the aftermath of the Civil War,

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Speaker 1: where the Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery unless duly convicted of

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Speaker 1: a felony. It also allowed black people to serve on

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Speaker 1: jury's and in Louisiana, even if the defense managed to

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Speaker 1: could be ignored and the person could effectively be re enslaved.

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Speaker 3: We've never learned how to have an economy that doesn't

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Speaker 3: rely on forced labor. There's so many prisons here and

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Speaker 3: that is the economy. Like you go in the middle

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Speaker 3: of Louisiana, they have nothing except like three private prisons.

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Speaker 3: It's the local employer. If you want to stop mass

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Speaker 3: least minimum wage for the labor that they perform while incarcerated,

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Speaker 3: I think that there would be a real push to

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Speaker 1: There was a twenty twenty two ballot initiative in Louisiana

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Speaker 1: but it was voted down. Yeah, but certainly before that

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Speaker 1: as well as this incident, and even before Corey's music career,

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Speaker 1: he was just another kid growing up in the New

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Speaker 4: I was raised my grandmother, my grandfather, and Big Bomb

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Speaker 4: drugs fad. That school was important. So throughout my whole

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Speaker 1: And while school was important, Corey and his brothers Percy

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Speaker 4: We became integrated in rap long time ago, listened to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good feeling. They had that much

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Speaker 4: I'm basically this steel in the walls and I just

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Speaker 1: Corey has three kids who at the time lived in

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Speaker 4: You gotta realize jeff Paris went to try to hit

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Speaker 4: There was some black people that trying to cross the

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Speaker 4: It was a breakdan lady, couple of women, couple of

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Speaker 4: was predicting the bridge any Katrina finish cross and the

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Speaker 1: Called up and I hope that story might shed some

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Speaker 1: lead detective in this case, Detective Cloger, after well they

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Speaker 3: We got Cloger's personnel record and Cloger was working in

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Speaker 3: you do hire him, he is more studed to be

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Speaker 1: It appears Jefferson Parish heard this message as more of

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Speaker 1: a horseman than a condemnation. And that brings us to

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Speaker 1: January twelfth, two thousand and two, when a sixteen year

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Speaker 4: That night of the instandent a couple of guys out

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Speaker 4: So by being in a savage audis and they know,

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Speaker 4: all we try to represent a kill of love, the

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Speaker 4: X me to get loose deal.

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Speaker 3: So he goes over to the Platinum Club in Harvey, Louisiana,

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Speaker 3: January twelve, two thousand and two, and there were by

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Speaker 4: It's really a bowler there lived the bottom and then

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Speaker 4: And so I was saying I was padded down.

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Speaker 1: And that security guard later testified that Corey was not armed,

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Speaker 1: but somehow a gun got in obviously, and as well

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Speaker 1: as sixteen year old Steve Thomas, who you know. He

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Speaker 1: probably they must have used a fake ID to get

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Speaker 4: And they say that the guy was a tran of mind.

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Speaker 4: They even created a moten saying that I had a

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Speaker 4: rep the guy that was killed. I guess they had

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Speaker 4: got somebody to stay something like that, I have a

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Speaker 4: bad repide of my life from the South, and then

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Speaker 4: talk he's going the East Coast as yo. Especially back then,

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Speaker 4: we didn't know what bad a rep it was. That

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Speaker 4: whole night, I never messed the guy that was doing

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Speaker 4: that was Folk, never had one word with him.

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Speaker 1: After all, Corey was not in this thick crowd, but

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Speaker 4: I was just in there drinking, wait for them to

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Speaker 4: tell me go up the stage introduced, then I could leave,

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Speaker 4: right so, I remember talking to a shoot girl. I

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Speaker 3: Then at some point during the night, a fight breaks

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Speaker 3: Everybody describes just kind of this group of men surrounding

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Speaker 4: I'm just as surprised that everybody else, but and so

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Speaker 3: A bunch of people flee, including Corey and his friends.

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Speaker 3: And after this shot goes off, there was a really

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Speaker 3: see murdered this, And I think that probably is what

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Speaker 1: They discovered Steve Thomas lying on his back, having been

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Speaker 3: The police seal up the doors basically with one hundred

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Speaker 4: Some of the witnesses called on that one one he'd

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Speaker 4: see the show those games like guard I'm six five

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Speaker 1: Not only was it unlikely that a successful musician would

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Speaker 1: put his career and his family at risk. But then

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Speaker 1: the description wasn't even close, and not one eyewitness named him,

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Speaker 1: and that included the security guard, the guy who had

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Speaker 3: The security guard spoke to the police that night and

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Speaker 3: of days later he gives an inculpatory statement against Corey,

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Speaker 3: and so based really on that statement alone, they locate

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Speaker 3: Corey at the House of Blues four days later. He's

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Speaker 1: Now, according to Darnell Jordan's twenty eighteen recantation, when asked

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Speaker 1: he said, if that was the case, he would have

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Speaker 1: said so on the nine to one one call. But

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Speaker 1: then he went on to say, quote, they got me

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Speaker 1: the id C murder's picture and sign it. They tricked me.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't signing the picture to id the shooter. I

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Speaker 1: signed it because they told me to. I knew they

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Speaker 1: wanted me to say Corey Miller did it because he's famous.

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Speaker 1: End quote. Nevertheless, this interaction helped them get an arrest

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Speaker 1: warrant for Corey Miller.

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Speaker 4: I actually had some kind of shape in eliteal system

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Speaker 4: at that time. I was like, oh, well, they're going

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Speaker 1: At this point, they continued to interview clubgoers. Meanwhile, they'd

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Speaker 2: Knowing that the necklace that was allegedly taken from the

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Speaker 1: DNA, And then suddenly the chain became unimportant.

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Speaker 2: I never understood why someone wouldn't want to find the

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Speaker 1: Case in point, despite the fact that every club Gore

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Speaker 1: approached in September two thousand and three. Darnell Jordan had

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Speaker 3: As the fight was happening, Darnell saw fifteen or twenty

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Speaker 1: And for this alleged account to have been an accurate

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Speaker 1: varied wildly, starting with Tanika Rankins and Eloise Matthews.

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Speaker 3: What Tanika testified to at the first trial is that

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Speaker 3: she was at the Platinum Club with Elouise Matthews. She

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Speaker 3: saw Corey verbally confront Steve. Then the fight broke out.

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Speaker 3: Corey went underneath his shirt raised his arm in Steve's direction.

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Speaker 3: She never said that she saw Corey with a gun,

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Speaker 3: but the shot was fired and Steve fell to the floor.

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Speaker 3: And then what Eloise testified too was that she had

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Speaker 1: To recap Elouise said both she and Tanika didn't see

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Speaker 4: All of the witnesses. Statements by these people are blatantly lying.

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Speaker 4: My lawyers closely examined it them.

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Speaker 1: The state's next witness, Keishawn Jones, wouldn't even look up

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Speaker 3: The second she gets off the stand, she runs up

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Speaker 1: On the record, she said she didn't directly see what

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Speaker 4: She told him that everything they have provided the age

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Speaker 3: That story of pressure from law enforcement to implicate Corey.

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Speaker 3: It's a similar story told by multiple different people that

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Speaker 1: Aisha Washington was also being detained on the material witness

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Speaker 3: And then also Corey had four witnesses testify for the

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Speaker 1: But somehow the jury chose to believe the three wildly

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Speaker 4: Being at Jeffson pay would not be placed with somebody

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Speaker 4: guilty and the eyes already you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: like discuss the with being bashing him, just siding the

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Speaker 3: And the jury returned a unanimous verdict at the first

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Speaker 3: postrial litigation of any case I've ever seen. Seven months,

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Speaker 3: thirteen different hearings. Corey's trial lawyer really did a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the allegations were that there was withholding

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Speaker 3: out that Tanique actually had felony theft convictions outstanding warrants

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Speaker 1: Which gave the appearance that she had nothing to exchange

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Speaker 3: Eloise testified that she had met with Cloger multiple times

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Speaker 3: he had said he'd do anything to help her in

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Speaker 3: Tanika that she had told Cloger that Corey didn't shoot Steve,

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Speaker 3: but Cloger wasn't interested and accused her of lying. There

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Speaker 3: She had arrests for forgery. She was recommended for a diversion,

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Speaker 1: Then Ayisha Washington and Keishaw and Jones testified about there experiences,

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Speaker 3: The judge tells Kloger, like, I want you to bring

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Speaker 3: He said, no, I destroy my file, like the night

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Speaker 3: they saw the fight. They knew that Corey wasn't involved

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Speaker 3: in it, so the judge granted Corey a new trial.

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Speaker 1: That was in April two thousand and four, when Judge

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Speaker 3: I think that she was sort of painted as the

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Speaker 4: It's still some parage. These people still sticked together. They

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Speaker 3: And then the intermediate Appellate Court in Louisiana reversed a

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Speaker 1: So after two years of appeals, Corey was released on

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Speaker 1: giving him three years with his children.

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Speaker 4: That was amazing good they didn't have to go there week.

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Speaker 4: And so I definitely hold on to Chared going home,

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Speaker 4: and those three years after brought us closer. You know,

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Speaker 1: I gotta process that myself for a minute. So during

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Speaker 3: So whenever they're questioning him about the death of his child,

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Speaker 1: According to Kenneth's twenty eighteenantation. He initially told them that

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Speaker 1: and was definitely not Corey Miller, but quote, the officers

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Speaker 1: So he gave a statement naming Corey and his charges. Yep,

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and five, Kenneth Jordan gets arrested for

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Speaker 1: So now the state moved forward to trial in two

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Speaker 4: During Waldberg the first day he fell being his coach.

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Speaker 4: So you should be all bye, you should be arrested.

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Speaker 4: You a herd choice. I want to get you convicted,

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Speaker 4: and I want to put this case on a show.

437
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 4: We kind of s that is the riforbody and then

438
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 4: anything that we try to file, whatever the DA's wanted,

439
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: ain't that whatever will be asked for us an emotion.

440
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Of fiul for that, including a critical request from his

441
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: hired attorney, who hadn't been paid in years.

442
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: At this point, Corey had been in prison since two

443
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: thousand and two hadn't been able to earn an income.

444
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 3: In April of two thousand and nine, his trial lawyer

445
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: tries to withdraw from his case and says, I've not

446
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: been paid in three years. I cannot do a second

447
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: trial for Corey. And rather than permitting trial council to withdraw,

448
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: the judge which like kind of heckles Corey and was

449
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: like I'd feel a whole heck of a lot better

450
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: if my lawyer was paid, Corey, you know I'm not

451
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: going to let you withdraw. We've got a trial date

452
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: in four months.

453
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: So without being paid the defense attorney. Instead of physically

454
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: calling Corey's alibi witnesses, he was allowed to just replay

455
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: the recording of their testimonies from the first trial, which

456
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: is not what the state did with Darnell and Kenneth.

457
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: Jordan no relation, by the way those two guys, except

458
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: perhaps for family histories that may have been intertwined with

459
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: one of the prosecutors, Roger Jordan, a powerful Louisiana white

460
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: man who also happens to share the same last name,

461
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: and it appears that their relationship was not so different

462
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: from their ancestors.

463
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: Prior to the second trial, Darnell and Kenneth do not

464
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: want to come and testify. They are arrested on material

465
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: witness warrants. They're held in communicado leading up to the trial,

466
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: and then they're brought to court in chains to testify

467
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: against Corey and Kenneth. His statement is different than even

468
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: Darnell's right, so he says that he sees the fight

469
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: and that after the fight is over and everybody walks away,

470
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: he sees Corey walk up, stand over Steven shoot him.

471
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Speaker 1: So was he standing over the body or was he

472
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: reaching underneath the pylon? It can't be both. It appears

473
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: that these inconsistencies gave at least three of the jurors

474
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Speaker 1: some really serious reservations.

475
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Speaker 3: This is the poster child for non unanimous verdicts because

476
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: it wasn't even ten to two, it was nine to three.

477
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: There were three African Americans on the jury, the rest

478
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: were white people, and there was one young black woman

479
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: on the jury who was getting attacked by the white

480
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: members of the jury. They were saying very horrible things

481
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: to her, like your mother should have aborted you. You're

482
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: just as dumb as he is. You're not doing your job.

483
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: They kept on reporting to the judge that like the

484
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 3: jurors were losing it. The young woman was so stressed

485
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 3: out she was throwing up.

486
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: The jurors came as they can't help up with her

487
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 4: dirty wild up with helgoing out.

488
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: So the judge is like, I'm going to sequester you

489
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: guys in a hotel overnight, So he does that. They

490
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: come back the next day. The abuse continues.

491
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, because they clearly must have been unsure of the outcome.

492
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: The attorneys were discussing the offered that they'd made to

493
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Corey before trial twenty years. At this point he almost

494
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: served half but still Corey maintains his innocence. And then

495
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: the jury came back with their first ten to two

496
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: vote for guilty.

497
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Speaker 3: They pull the jurors and two African Americans say not guilty.

498
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: One woman, a white lady, writes guilty under duress, and

499
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: they're like, oh no, this won't do. So then they

500
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: send everybody back and then she comes back and she's

501
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 3: changed her vote at this point from guilty under duress

502
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: to just guilty and that's enough.

503
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: Right.

504
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: Then the next day she gives an interview to The

505
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: Times picky you and and she describes the scene in

506
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: deliberations and she just says, I didn't vote guilty because

507
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: I thought the state proved its case. I voted guilty

508
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: to end deliberations because the Mama bear instinct in me

509
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: came out and I was afraid for the sanity of

510
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: this young girl.

511
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just see I just thought she was dried,

512
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: kids on the eyes and stuff like that. So I

513
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 4: know something was going on in effect, I just didn't

514
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 4: find out until later, she described a total lens going

515
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: off back. It was unsel how to go through that,

516
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: and it was unself to me. They had to be

517
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 4: found guilty by Dervis said basically put out out in

518
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: the room there. It's just hard recapping all of those

519
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: times and it just takes you back to that place.

520
00:28:43,520 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: I wouldn't wish this all my words enemy, I lost

521
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: twenty two years of my life so far of being

522
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: able to raise my kids. Tryping me because I was

523
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: not raised by my father my mother. I was giving

524
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: my grand pans and I always vowed to break that cycle.

525
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: The most important thing in the world of people was

526
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: to be a father and be up in the thout

527
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: these lives. My youngest daughter was two years old. Now

528
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: she's graduated and let you so I wasn't there for

529
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: them because of the hearts of men, political figures and discontinas,

530
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: checkers and posy.

531
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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, all the easy

532
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: on you and been trying.

533
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: To upgrade in their standards, and they just somebody like

534
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: me come along and they're just like that, We're gonna

535
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: go all out. This don't help us, It don't feel

536
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: us in our platfall. But I allowed. I did it

537
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: to change me and make my heart. I still believe

538
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 4: that if I staked go ahead a wait, and I

539
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: bet if my kids all of it was going real well,

540
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: going to college, when college being successful, I was, it

541
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: could have turned out much worse for them. And so

542
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: I hold on today. I could see the pain and

543
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: I can hear the pain what we shouldpeak, and I

544
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: know they been under the pain. It could be given

545
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: back to him, and the best thing that I could

546
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 4: do for him is give my freedom.

547
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: He had his direct appeal and then he filed for

548
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: his initial state habeas or state post conviction, and it

549
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: was timely, and that was denied without a hearing. That's

550
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: a shame because what the law says is if there's

551
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: any contested factual issue, you cannot just resolve that on

552
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: inspection of the pleadings. You have to have a hearing.

553
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of contested factual issues in this case.

554
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: So there was never a hearing on his initial timely

555
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: post conviction application.

556
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Eighteen.

557
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: Both the state's witnesses recanted. In twenty eighteen, both men

558
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: independently fully recanted their trial testimony. Both of them said,

559
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: I didn't see Corey Kenneth actually said that he saw

560
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 5: a shorter, darker skinned person, and they both described similar

561
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 5: coercion by the Sheriff's office. They both said what I

562
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 5: said at trial was not true, so the evidence against

563
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: Corey is gone.

564
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: In addition, Jane hired a crime scene reconstruction expert.

565
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: We had a crime scene reconstruction expert, and basically the

566
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: trajectory of the bullet, because it's got a slightly upward angle,

567
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: they were either on the same plane or the shooter

568
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: was standing up, Steve was laying down, and the shooter

569
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: had an unobstructive path from at least three feet away

570
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: because there was no stippling, so we know that it

571
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: came from at least three feet away. So the idea

572
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: that the shooter sticks his hand in a pile of

573
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: people fighting and shoots that clearly didn't happen, and that.

574
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Was alleged by the only person who appear in both trials,

575
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Darnell Jordan. At least Kenneth Jordan's version of events was

576
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: physically possible. Yet the post conviction filing was denied, ruling

577
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: that the recantations were suspect and not reliable. Even though

578
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: these recantations were in part supported by the crime scene

579
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: reconstruction and in total by Detective Cloger's pattern of coercion.

580
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: There's corroboration that this is kind of the pattern in

581
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: practice of what the Sheriff's office was doing in this case.

582
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: And then subsequently, in the most recent filing that we did,

583
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: we got Cloger's personnel record and within it there was

584
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: this letter from the superintendent of the New Orleans Police

585
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: Department that said, this guy has been messing up homicide

586
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: investigations in Orleans Parish. So if you do hire mb

587
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: is more stuited to be a guard at a correctional institution.

588
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Nevertheless, the motion was denied without a hearing, so.

589
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: He's never had a hearing. They've never let him come

590
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: back to court for anything, even the new evidence.

591
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: Now, around this time, there was a ballot initiative in

592
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: Louisiana and the practice of non unanimous jew verdicts. We

593
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: even did an episode about it in October twenty eighteen.

594
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: It's linked in the episode description. In fact, that was

595
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: only about a month after Kim's first appearance on this show. Thankfully,

596
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: that November, Louisiana finally did the right thing, at least

597
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: for cases going forward.

598
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: But everyone that had been convicted on that system, they

599
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: didn't retroactively let them out. Not changing laws retroactively is

600
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: something that really bothers me. I can't understand how that

601
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: makes sense to lawmakers and how people are comfortable with that.

602
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: You know the reason, Kim that's cited by the powers

603
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: that be in Louisiana that they aren't changing this law

604
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: because it would clog up the court system with all

605
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: these people who would need to come home.

606
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, isn't that the most ridiculous thing ever?

607
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: I really can't wrap my head around it.

608
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: We certainly can't either. So even though people like Corey

609
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: didn't benefit from that new law, since then, Louisiana has

610
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: passed other promising legislation.

611
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: Louisiana enacted a provision of law that is meant to

612
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: provide people like Corey Miller with a pathway to prove

613
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: their innocence and what would otherwise be considered untimely filing

614
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 3: that says they can file a factual innocence petition before

615
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: December thirty first of twenty twenty two. So that's what

616
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: we did, alleging everything, showing everything, and we didn't get

617
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: a hearing on it. What they did was the trial

618
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: judge relied on previous decisions. So he said, like, because

619
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: I made the call in twenty eighteen that Darnell and

620
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: Kennet's recantations are suspicious, I don't think that this qualifies

621
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: as evidence to support a factual innocence filing. But in

622
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: every case dealing with recantations, there's a hearing to determine

623
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: the veracity of the recantation. Darnell and Kenneth have never

624
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: been called to court to testify under oaths, like the

625
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 3: veracity of the evidence has never been tested. And we

626
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: took it to the Supreme Court and the two of

627
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: the justices voted in our favor, but we needed four

628
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: and so that avenue is closed.

629
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Speaker 1: His federal habeas was also But considering that there's literally

630
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: no evidence left that implicates Corey Miller, it's really hard

631
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: to understand how he hasn't seen relief after all these

632
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: long years.

633
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: So it's said all around the forward there was a

634
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: victim involved, and it's more than one victim. And because

635
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: I've been playing at my innocence to the day one

636
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: and I know they're just pa and I know that's

637
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 4: the state that I'm innocent, and I know that when

638
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: Dane went and visited the day knows that I'm in.

639
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: They just don't know what to do with me.

640
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 3: I have spoken several times to the District Attorney's office

641
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: and said, you know, Corey, he's not interested in spending

642
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: the rest of his life in prison trying to get exonerated.

643
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: We all offered him twenty years and he's.

644
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: Served that it's right all the judges of Street and

645
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: grant here my vote, and the das of Trade to

646
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 4: lean up my cage and give me in my freedom,

647
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: because they said I retroduced doing the right date would

648
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 4: be the wrong moved for anybody to China further than career.

649
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: Doing the right thing would be the wrong move for

650
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: anybody trying to further their career. I think that's the

651
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: best and maybe the only explanation for where Corey finds

652
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: himself today.

653
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just had every roadblock that you could

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Speaker 2: possibly imagine, and everyone screw him over every which way,

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Speaker 2: and it's just I definitely won't stop fighting for him.

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Speaker 2: That's why I want to be loud about him and

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Speaker 2: keep his case alive. Unfortunately, nothing has happened. He keeps

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Speaker 2: getting blocked at every motion, every step.

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Speaker 1: Of the way. Corey needs all the help he can get,

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Speaker 1: and I'm asking each and every one of you to

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Speaker 1: not only share his story, but also to please sign

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Speaker 1: the petition to free Corey Miller based on his actual innocence,

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Speaker 1: and beyond that, we all need to sign a petition

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Speaker 1: to apply the unanimous verdict standard retroactively in Louisiana. Both

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Speaker 1: will be linked in the episode description. Plus new evidence

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Speaker 1: is another way Corey could get back into court and

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Speaker 3: If you have any information about Corey's case, please contact me.

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Speaker 3: My email address is Jane ja and E at Hoganattorneys dot.

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Speaker 1: Com and we'll have Jane's contact info as well as

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Speaker 1: other action steps linked in the episode description. And with that,

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Speaker 1: we're going to go to closing arguments, starting with Kim,

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Speaker 1: then Jane, and then Corey will take us off into

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Speaker 1: the sunset.

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Speaker 2: If you really think about it, that your family member,

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Speaker 2: or your loved one, or your friends or someone close

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Speaker 2: to you could be in the same exact situations as

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Speaker 2: so many of these people that are locked up for life,

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Speaker 2: it really opens up my heart to just want to

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Speaker 2: help people and do whatever we can so specifically with

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Speaker 2: Corey Miller, someone who has no evidence that he was

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Speaker 2: involved in this crime. His DNA was not on the evidence,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know why our system cannot take accountability

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Speaker 2: of the wrongs and let people out that have been

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Speaker 2: proven innocent. I believe in Corey Miller one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I really want him to come home. I think he

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Speaker 2: would be such an asset to our society, and I

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Speaker 2: really hope that Louisiana strongly considers changing the law retroactively

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Speaker 2: and letting those people out, because it would change so

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Speaker 2: many people's lives and families.

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Speaker 3: I would just like to thank you for your interest

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Speaker 3: in it. I would also, of course like to thank

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Speaker 3: Kim and her team for their interest in it and

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Speaker 3: for using her platform to shed some light on this case.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is not a verdict which should inspire

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Speaker 3: confidence in the system. If you look at it, it

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Speaker 3: was a house of cards to begin with. It collapsed,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately there as a human being who is still

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Speaker 3: sitting in prison for something that he didn't do and

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Speaker 3: that there is no evidence that he did, and he

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Speaker 3: is now lost over two decades of his life to this,

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Speaker 3: and so that is an injustice it's also an injustice

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Speaker 3: of course that Steve Thomas was shot and killed. So

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of injustice here. But the one injustice

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Speaker 3: that can be remedied is record to get some relief somewhere,

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Speaker 3: and I believe that one day that will happen, and

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Speaker 3: I will continue to work on this case until hopefully

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Speaker 3: one day he can come home.

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Speaker 4: I did what everybody to get the full shore. Because

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Speaker 4: everybody is aware of everything that went on in my case,

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Speaker 4: it'd be easiest for the proper officious to make the

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Speaker 4: right decision. And I feel like he's going to be

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Speaker 4: retrocuted and carry for making the right decision and relieve,

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Speaker 4: so I'd want everybody get the story. Help. We tried

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Speaker 4: everything else that work. No matter how great find appeal

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Speaker 4: and all and how great word and in people is

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Speaker 4: ever gonna matter. I will actually die after what I've done,

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Speaker 4: but only because of jam and love me, behold and

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Speaker 4: law and release you. That's political sabotage for them, and

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Speaker 4: so I gotta keep doing what we're going right down.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's important to bring awayness to my situation

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Speaker 4: and my summer.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: I have had it, man, because I haven't had me

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Speaker 4: in twenty three years.

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