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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Another season, another

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Speaker 1: incredible year for the Richard Sherman Podcast. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: always joining us and hit that sub button if you knew.

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Speaker 1: Your team has a lot of hope right now, Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl aspirations all around. Mitchell, how are you feeling, Richard?

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Speaker 1: It's great to be back.

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Speaker 2: Football is almost back, my friend, and this is again

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Speaker 2: my favorite time of year, right next to the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: You know, I love me the NFL Draft, But NFL kickoff,

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Speaker 2: we got a doozy right around the corner, and we're

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Speaker 2: here at the Richard Sherman Podcast to break down you know,

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Speaker 2: this season ahead. Let's get right into it, Man, because

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Speaker 2: I know your allegiances lie heavily with that NFC West,

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Speaker 2: and for once in a long time, this NFC West

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Speaker 2: is truly anyone's game. I mean, we see the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers, They're gonna have to battle a lot of

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Speaker 2: adversity this year, rich A lot of roster changed, you know,

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Speaker 2: the LA Rams pretty darn good, the Arizona Cardinals do

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Speaker 2: they rise from the depths. And then the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: I mean a quarterback change, you know, obviously second year

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Speaker 2: under the head coach. You got to see some of

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Speaker 2: these guys live in camp. You went to San fran

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Speaker 2: you went to Seattle. Richard, talk to me, what do

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Speaker 2: you like in the NFC? Is it the forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers division? Because I like to tell you something, Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas that they're known for making odds. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you knew this or not, but they're known for

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Speaker 2: making some odds and they favor your San Francisco forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers to take this division.

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Speaker 3: Do you like that or do you like the field?

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Speaker 3: My man, Mitchell?

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Speaker 1: I feel good about the San Francisco forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: always because they have Kyle Shanahan, because they brought Purty,

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Speaker 1: because they have Christian McCaffrey, because they have Trent Williams,

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Speaker 1: Nicholas John Bosa, Fred Warner, Diamadore leonor. These are the

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Speaker 1: reasons I feel comfortable, George Kittle. The list goes on.

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Speaker 1: It seems like a who's who of the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: All Pro team. But the reason, the reason I have

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Speaker 1: Paul's Minchell, the reason I look at that ten and

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Speaker 1: but I need to squeen a little bit to see

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Speaker 1: it because of the injuries, because the injury bug has

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Speaker 1: been so ravenous through the San Francisco forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: locker room that it gives me pause and concern because

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Speaker 1: the last few years it's been contagious. And so if

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Speaker 1: you keep those guys that are mentioned healthy, I think

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Speaker 1: ten and a half eleven wins sound manageable. Those are

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Speaker 1: some of the best players in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: They make impacts week in and week out. They will

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Speaker 1: be perfectly fine. They will find the way Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: Klay Kobiak, they'll figure it out. But it's fragile. It's very, very,

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Speaker 1: very very fragile this year. When you're top heavy like that,

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Speaker 1: it's like when you see a circus act and you

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Speaker 1: see the elephant at the top and you're like, if

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Speaker 1: one thing breaks, the elephant falls Mitchell when that's a

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Speaker 1: heavy fall. So could they win the Division of forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers, No question about it. They're talented enough. They

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Speaker 1: have some of the best players in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: They have one of the best play callers, if not

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Speaker 1: the best play caller in Kyle Shanahan, a great coach,

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Speaker 1: Robert salaz Back coaching that defense they have a talented defense.

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Speaker 1: He young in the back end outside of Diamador Leonor,

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Speaker 1: but up and Stout has looked really good. He looked

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Speaker 1: incredibly feisty. He looks like he's gonna fit right in

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Speaker 1: if he's healthy. Ronaldo Green looked good last year. I

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Speaker 1: the next step this year. It's the detackle position that

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Speaker 1: leaves me really really concerned. You got the rookie CJ.

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Speaker 1: Michel Williams, the draft pick, the first round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: if he's healthy, looks to be everything they thought he

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Speaker 1: I think he'll he'll start. They've been praising him. It

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Speaker 1: looks like he'll start. They look they were actively shopping

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Speaker 1: that or what that makes will look like. On the

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Speaker 1: offensive side, they look really good, Mitchell, They look really

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Speaker 1: good as Still, that offensive line was a question mark

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Speaker 1: make me feel more comfortable. Obviously feel good about Dominice Pooney,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan has spoken spoken glowingly about this offensive line,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's to be seen. They're they're a great

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Speaker 1: the season. You got Seattle Seahawks, you got Leonard Williams,

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Speaker 1: you got pass rusher galore coming in to boy at MAFE.

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Speaker 1: So they'll be challenged right out the gate, and we'll

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Speaker 1: Because again, you pay brock Purty fifty plus million. When

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Speaker 1: I think Kyle Shanahan will use his creativity the receiving corps.

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Speaker 1: Huge question mark.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, you talk about question marks, and that's

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Speaker 2: all I hear he's saying is question marks. And that's

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Speaker 2: the story of this team right now is the question marks.

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Speaker 2: How will they be answered? Because we talked off air

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Speaker 2: this week, I mean, you look at the embarrassment of

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Speaker 2: riches this team has had over the last five years

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Speaker 2: when you were playing there, Richard he had the Forest

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Speaker 2: Buckner and Eric Armstead, you know, clogg in that middle.

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Speaker 2: Now you're relying on these relative of knowns in the middle.

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Speaker 2: What the forty nine ers have really benefited from over

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Speaker 2: the years is they've had all these all Pro and

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl players, But it was these guys that came

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Speaker 2: Gleek Green Laws, the Teleanola of Fungas you know, Diama

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Speaker 2: gonna be? Defensively is the main question mark for this

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Speaker 2: the NFC West, I don't know, man, My gut tells me, no,

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Speaker 2: I lean more towards the Rams. I lean more towards

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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, I know bulk of filers here and

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Speaker 2: but I just do not see them winning this division

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Speaker 2: without somebody, you know, somebody big, stepping up and filling

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Speaker 2: those voids. We asked all last year, how is Rock

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Speaker 2: Purty paying Brock Purty gonna affect this roster? And now

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Speaker 2: we see firsthand. I mean, you don't get the luxury

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Speaker 3: A dre green law.

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Speaker 2: Like now it's time for Kyle Shanahan to develop and

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Speaker 2: John Lynch to pluck these draft picks and insert them

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Speaker 1: Rich I.

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Speaker 2: Know you're cautious and agreeing with me. I know you are,

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Speaker 2: but like there are a lot of question marks, and

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Speaker 2: that's all I've heard from you right now.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely an inflection point. It's definitely a fork in

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Speaker 1: the road that will be define the Kyle Shanahan in

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Speaker 1: John Lynch era. And I say that knowing that they've

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Speaker 1: This has been a successful tenure by every stretch of

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Speaker 1: could have done more to address that offensive line. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: what they did has bears fruit, But I think the

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Speaker 1: He has a bright future, incredible young man who was

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Speaker 1: very versatile, dominant at times in training camp for the

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Speaker 1: not like it was because the veteran just didn't play well.

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Speaker 1: He just got beat out. That happens in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. These hungry rookies come in and they got

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Speaker 1: a point to prove, and that can't proved the point.

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Speaker 1: He should have definitely went higher in the draft. He

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Speaker 1: starting to become it's getting to that point where Rubbert

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Speaker 1: John Lynch said, he's not going to trade him, So

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna pay him. You're not gonna trade him either.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes. If I hadn't gone to training camp and

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Speaker 3: You just you just brought up a name.

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Speaker 2: I think this guy is going to break Fantasy football

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Speaker 2: But you can't turn your head at the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 2: You've got the veteran Cooper Cup. I mean, that's why

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Speaker 2: And when you ignite that mindset like you talked about,

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Speaker 2: you switch from just showing up and putting the pads

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Speaker 2: onto now showing up, putting the pads on and wanting

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Speaker 2: to win games for the guys next to you. Seattle

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Speaker 2: to me looks like a team that could surprise a

430
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Speaker 2: lot of folks this year. I know you also like

431
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Speaker 2: the La Rams, and that's why I think this is

432
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Speaker 2: going to be one of the most competitive divisions start

433
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Speaker 2: to finish in football. The La Rams are going absolutely

434
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Speaker 2: nowhere from where they've been. They are going to be

435
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Speaker 2: another dominant team ready to go. I know Matthew Stafford's

436
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: been battling the injuries, he's dealing with it, he's getting older.

437
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Speaker 2: But you add DeVante Adams, I mean you want to

438
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Speaker 2: talk about an upgrade to that offensive unit. The La

439
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Speaker 2: Rams are not just a division, you know, the potential

440
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Speaker 2: winner to me a Super Bowl contender this year. They're

441
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: very young. Defensively, They've Jared Verse, They've transitioned so well

442
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: off of Aaron Donald. They immediately at Jared Verse and

443
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: the other defensive tackle young up and coming stars in LA.

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Speaker 2: I know we talked about it, and I know you

445
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Speaker 2: don't want to go there, but would you term the

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Speaker 2: LA Rams as a favorite in this division.

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Speaker 1: It's it's tough, it's tough, It's it's close, but there's

448
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: there's still question marks in their secondary. There are things

449
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: that I gotta see happen. I gotta see things come together. Obviously,

450
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: their defensive line is really strong. Their offensive line could

451
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Speaker 1: potentially have some issues. Matthew Stafford lower back missed a

452
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Speaker 1: lot of the time in the preseason. Could be fine,

453
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Speaker 1: but if if anything happens to Matthew Stafford, everything clos

454
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Speaker 1: out the window. Everything. Not that Jimmy can't get it

455
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: done and can't be proficient, can't be efficient and take

456
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Speaker 1: this team to a super Bowl. But I think the

457
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Speaker 1: the gap between Matt Stafford and Jimmy Garoppolo in terms

458
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: of like how they changed the complexity at the games

459
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: is drastic, And not that Jimmy can't go out there

460
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Speaker 1: and run the offense professionally and and hey they got

461
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: a great run game and make get make it happen

462
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Speaker 1: and get this team that ten eleven wins and get

463
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Speaker 1: him to the playoffs. But Matthew Stafford is a special talent,

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Speaker 1: and if he's not playing, and if he's injured, the

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Speaker 1: dynamic changes. And he's got a back injury, which is

466
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Speaker 1: those things are temperamental, and he's older, and he's older.

467
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Speaker 1: You know that father time is undefeated and so but

468
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Speaker 1: I want to get back to the Seattle Seahawks because

469
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Speaker 1: I hadn't finished on them in their defense and everything,

470
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Speaker 1: and what what Because I sat here and said it

471
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Speaker 1: was a lateral move between Gino and Sam Darnold. The

472
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Speaker 1: thing that makes it different is click kobiak. The thing

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Speaker 1: that makes it a different move is this run game

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Speaker 1: and how effective it has been in the preseason, in practice,

475
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Speaker 1: and how effective it has been throughout the league. I

476
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Speaker 1: think that is what makes this totally different. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you gave Gino this same run game with this, then

478
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Speaker 1: I think Gino would have the success he had that

479
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl season, he had the year though in Petz

480
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Speaker 1: last year, but or was that the year before? Was

481
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Speaker 1: that twenty three or twenty conness crazy? But I also

482
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Speaker 1: think it benefits him to have all these people who

483
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Speaker 1: are experienced in this offense come with him and be

484
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Speaker 1: able to move into offense that he had a ton

485
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Speaker 1: of success in last year he went to a Super

486
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Speaker 1: Bowl with San Francisco as the backup to brock Party.

487
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Speaker 1: I think he has a lot of experience and those

488
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Speaker 1: things are going to help him. That run game is

489
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Speaker 1: going to help him be able to manage and not

490
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Speaker 1: have to deal with the pressure that he's dealt with before.

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Speaker 1: And this offensive line take some pressure off of them

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Speaker 1: that they've had to deal with that they had to

493
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Speaker 1: deal with last year. They have a lot of moving

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Speaker 1: parts between the right guard and center. There's a lot

495
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Speaker 1: of spots up to up up for grabs and a

496
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Speaker 1: lot of you know, three guys kind of battling for

497
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Speaker 1: for three spots. You don't know who's gonna gonna go

498
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Speaker 1: where between Alu and Jalen Sundale and Anthony Bradford, but

499
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Speaker 1: between the center and right guard spot. But they'll figure

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Speaker 1: that out. They got them all listed between center and

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Speaker 1: right guards, so I don't know who's gonna be the storder.

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Speaker 1: But defensively, I think the Seattle Seahawks are gonna surprise

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Speaker 1: a lot of people if they can stay healthy. DeMarcus

504
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a game record and I don't think he

505
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Speaker 1: got enough credit. In Dallas, everybody said, hey, when when

506
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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons isn't playing, this defense is different. But when

507
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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence wasn't playing, things really fell apart. It falls

508
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Speaker 1: us apart for for Michael Parsons, it falls apart for

509
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Speaker 1: the rest of defense. He's a great run defender, a

510
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Speaker 1: great pass rusher, an impactful player, and in this defense

511
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Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to double him at all.

512
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Speaker 1: Because you gotta worry about Leonard Williams, you gotta worry

513
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: about Byron Murphy, Jaron Reed, you gotta worry about Boye Mafe.

514
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: You got so many guys that that Derek Hall that

515
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: are impact players, that are really good pass rushers. And

516
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Speaker 1: then in the secondary you got Julian Love, the pro bowler.

517
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Speaker 1: It's a reason they paid him. They every court coach

518
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Speaker 1: in this conference speaks highly of Julian Love. When Kyle

519
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Speaker 1: Shanahan I went there, he said, hey, make sure you

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Speaker 1: tell Julian Love bro I did not know, Like, I'm

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Speaker 1: watching Julian Love like he is good. There's ridiculous how

522
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Speaker 1: good he is. I'm like, yeah, that's why I got him. Starting.

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, another guy that's impactful Spoon. Spoon is having

524
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Speaker 1: a great camp. I think he's gonna have another great year,

525
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Speaker 1: Reek Wooling contract season for him. Very motivated, gotta have

526
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Speaker 1: a great year within this scheme. You see that Ernest

527
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Speaker 1: Jones we full year in this system, Tyrese Knight full year,

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Speaker 1: full time starters that I think they're gonna pick up

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Speaker 1: where they left off. And then Nick m m Worri

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Speaker 1: the wildcard, the Swiss Army Knife. They're gonna use him

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Speaker 1: everywhere in this scheme and it's gonna be really fun

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Speaker 1: to watch. They got him in the depth tronal. I

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Speaker 1: look at depth tron, I'm like, they're not given credit

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Speaker 1: for where he is at. You could literally put him

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Speaker 1: at every as the backup to every single position pretty

536
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Speaker 1: much in his defense, and they're gonna use him like

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald used Kyle Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore. Where he's hey,

538
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: he might be at nickel, you might see him at linebacker.

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Speaker 1: You might see him look like he's at de tackle.

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Speaker 1: He might be out outside at corner, you might be

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Speaker 1: about deep. I say, you never know, And I think

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Speaker 1: that speaks to the versatility that this defense is gonna

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Speaker 1: have in this scheme. It's gonna be tough to deal with.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot of it on display in

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Speaker 1: the first week. This gotta be the first time two

546
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Speaker 1: brothers have coordinated against each other in the National Football League.

547
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to check me on that. But Klay

548
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Kubiak versus Clinton Kolbiak, that's gonna be really cool. That's

549
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: gonna be really cool. I'm sure their dad is going

550
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: to be really proud of that. But I think the

551
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Rams can can make noise. But Stafford's health is the

552
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: big question mark. And if your quarterbacks health is a

553
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: big question mark, then everything's a question mark.

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Speaker 2: And the last team we haven't touched on is Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is another team the expectations are higher

556
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Speaker 2: this year than in year's past. You got Marvin Harrison

557
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Speaker 2: Junior coming back. You know in year two, it looks

558
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Speaker 2: like he's haded a lot of muscle. We'll see if

559
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Speaker 2: he's able to get involved more. You know, this team

560
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: made a lot of changes this offseason to try to

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Speaker 2: compete in this division.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're.

563
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Speaker 2: There just yet, but Vegas has got him over under

564
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: nine and a half wins, which tells me they're right

565
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Speaker 2: on the cusp of being a playoff team. Are the

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals contenders in this division as well? Or do

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Speaker 2: you put them bottom of the totem pole.

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Speaker 1: Right now? I just.

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Speaker 2: Can we see Kyler Murray get back to where he

570
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Speaker 2: was two three years ago where he was given defenses

571
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Speaker 2: a lot of problems run with his legs. We saw it,

572
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: we saw it. You know, James Connor was a lot

573
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Speaker 2: more involved at the goal line, but two three years

574
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Speaker 2: ago you saw Kyler Murray taking over as soon as

575
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Speaker 2: they got in the red zone. This is what it's

576
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Speaker 2: gonna take, in my opinion for the Cardinals to be

577
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Speaker 2: a true threat is unleash Kyler Murray. Can he rise

578
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Speaker 2: to the occasion now that he's been in this league?

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Speaker 2: What is this year five for Kyler?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. He's he's a wild card

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Speaker 1: and you don't know what you're gonna get. Is he

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Speaker 1: gonna be healthy coming into the draft, Like he's small,

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Speaker 1: he's diminuted, demute, diminuative, and you you, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from him. So you sit there

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Speaker 1: and say, what is he gonna do? What is he

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Speaker 1: gonna do this year? I don't know. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Like what is their offensive line gonna be? I don't know.

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00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: I know James Connor has had some success, but he's

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Speaker 1: also you know, running back. You know, they eventually fall

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Speaker 1: off a cliff. So's he gonna fall off soon? I

591
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I think they have two big good receivers

592
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: and Michael Wilson Stanford Guy and Arvin Harrison Jr. I

593
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: think those two receivers, I mean having two big receivers

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Speaker 1: that he can just throw the ball up and hey

595
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: ask him to make a play. Sure, I could see

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Speaker 1: that having some success, but it's almost like they had

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00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: seems like they figured Kyler Murray out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And so if you figured him out, then I don't

599
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: know what is he doing different? What has he done

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Speaker 1: to grow? What has he done to evolve to help,

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Speaker 1: you know, change the narrative around what he did last season?

602
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: And so I think I'm gonna wait and see mode

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00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: with the Arizon the Cardinals because of Kyler Murray. Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray just he had a solid season last year. He

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00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: was he was twenty one touchdowns, eleven interceptions, but they

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00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: didn't win. They didn't win, and so that you know,

607
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it matters. That matters.

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: They were eight and nine, and I think Josh Gannon

609
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: did a good job, you know. I think he did

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Speaker 1: a great job with that defense. I think they got

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Speaker 1: a lot of veterans on that defense. I liked Will

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Speaker 1: Johnson in that draft. I think I thought he was

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Speaker 1: one of the better corners in that draft. They got

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Speaker 1: him in the second round. I like him. I obviously

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Speaker 1: Booda Baker is gonna be a factor in his defense,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. I still see them as middle

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Speaker 1: of the pack, you know what I mean, eight and nine.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him as nine and a half. I

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Speaker 1: see him as eight and nine again. And at that point,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make a decision on if Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray is the future or if they're drafting somebody for

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Speaker 1: the future, because if you keep going eight to nine, eventually, Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: you're setting yourself up for failure because you're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of pack. So it's not like you're drafting high

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Speaker 1: enough to get a potential franchise defining generational player and

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Speaker 1: you're not good enough to be like, hey, we're competing

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs where we got a chance and we know, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're doing things the right way. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: wait and see.

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Speaker 2: So who's it gonna be before we leave this division?

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Speaker 2: It sounds to me like you're you're a bit muddled.

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00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: It's it's almost like a wait and see division. But

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Speaker 2: that's not how we do things at the Richard Sherman Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Who are you taking right now? I need I need

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Speaker 2: a division winner? Courtesy of Richard Sherman.

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Speaker 1: Division winner. And so this one's tough. This one's tough.

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Speaker 1: It I I don't I don't know how Matthew Stafford's

638
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: back is gonna be throughout the whole season. And that's

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Speaker 1: gonna keep the Rams at least second for me, or

640
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Speaker 1: second to third. They're not gonna win it right now

641
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: for me. I think they if they make the playoffs

642
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: and he's healthy at the end and they're in the playoffs,

643
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna cast some noise and they're gonna cause some problems.

644
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: So I think it's between the Seattle Seaalts and the

645
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. I think the first game

646
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: will determine a lot. It's crazy because they play the

647
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: first game and then they played the last game, you know,

648
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: So that's I don't I don't know how many times

649
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: that's happened in the history of the game, but I

650
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: don't remember that happening anytime. But hmmm, it's in Seattle.

651
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: It's in Seattle. San Francisco's banged up. You got a

652
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: lot of young new receivers, you got your guys, though,

653
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: you got your all pros ah Angel. It's tough for

654
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: me to bet against them in Seattle with everything going on,

655
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: and all the injuries, and all the uncertainty, and and

656
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: and and in the d tackle situation, I got it.

657
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: I think Seattle wins the division in a tie record

658
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: wise with the San Francisco forty nine ers, but it's

659
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: gonna be a close tiebreaker. I think they both win

660
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: eleven games, and they're tied for the division, but the

661
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: edge goes to the Seattle Seahawks. That's that's what I

662
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: This is.

663
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: The this is the fine line you walk having played

664
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: for both organizations, rich Well, this is.

665
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: Not even a fine line. This is really how I'm

666
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: seeing it because I think Seattle has enough to make

667
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: the jump and to do that and win eleven games.

668
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: I also think San Francisco is talented enough to win

669
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: eleven games. Now, if they win twelve games. If San

670
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: Francisco wins thirteen games, nobody be that surprised. Now if

671
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: Seattle wins thirteen games, people will be like, oh my god,

672
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: we're so long. But I see the Seattle Seahawks a

673
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: lot better than everybody else does. And we'll see if

674
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: my if I know football in Week one and how

675
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: they do against San Francisco forty nine ers. But to

676
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: say eight and a half wins is insanity for the

677
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: team I've seen in the way they've been executing, the

678
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: way they've been working, the get if they get eight wins, Mitchell,

679
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing, and I need to stop. I

680
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: need to stop this. If they're healthy and they get

681
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: eight wins, color me dumb.

682
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to color you dumb, but I'm

683
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: gonna go against you. I'm going to be your adversary here.

684
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: I think the La Rams, I think this is their

685
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: division this year. I think Matthew Stafford does study healthy.

686
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: You couple pooking the Cool with DeVante Adams, and all

687
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know this wide receiving corp in

688
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: this offense, takes another step forward.

689
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: Then you got Kyron Williams.

690
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: Obviously you know Blake Korum's second year as well, a

691
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: good running back stable there. But the big difference maker

692
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: for me in LA is Jared Verse. As he continues

693
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: to get older and more developed, I think he's going

694
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: to strike fear in a lot of defenses that he's

695
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: going to be a guy to keep it an eye on.

696
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: Dark horse candidate for Defensive Player of the Year. You've

697
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: heard it here first, Jared Verse. Out of the LA

698
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: rams A Division, I want to talk about Richard as

699
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: we tie the knot on the NFC West. Is the

700
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: NFC North. You already know I'm rocking that Honolulu Blue

701
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: for a reason. But the big news out of the

702
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: NFC North before I go on my rant about the

703
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions and how they're going to walk away with

704
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: the division with these is the Green Bay Packers. I mean,

705
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: this team is a team I now envy. I mean,

706
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: this is a team that's going out there and taking chances.

707
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: This deal for Micah Parsons. Certainly, without a doubt, pragmatic

708
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: opinion my Detroit Lions biased aside, this Green Bay Packers

709
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: team just got a lot better overnight by adding Michael Parsons.

710
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: That comes with the flexibility they have with their cap space.

711
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean, the Green Bay Packers have orchestrated this team

712
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: so well they've they've they have not had to pay

713
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: any receivers. I mean they've been dealing with these guys

714
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: that they drafted a slew of young wideouts. They haven't

715
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: had to dab into the thirty thirty five million dollars

716
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: paydays that the Detroit Lions have had to do that,

717
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals have had to do that. You're San

718
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers, whether they like it or not

719
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: with Brandon Ayuk, have had to do. And the Green

720
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Bay Packers are sitting very very well managed from a

721
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: roster construction standpoint. They strike fearing me right now, Rich,

722
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: I gotta know how big of a plus is Micah

723
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: Parsons additions to this Green Bay Packers team.

724
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: Ooh, I'm trying to quantify for you, Minchell, please do

725
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: but it it's bad, Mitchell, It's bad. It's is it?

726
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Is it? No, it's not. It's not Lebron joining the heat.

727
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: It's not that bad for you, Mitchell, is it?

728
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: Is it? Luka doncis joining the Lakers. Let's let's talk

729
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: NBA here for a second.

730
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: Oh, let's talk NBA. No, because that's because we didn't go.

731
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: The Lakers didn't do enough with that. I'm trying to

732
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: understand a way that this impacted it so that you

733
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: understand this team is a Super Bowl contender. Now, this

734
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: was a top five defense without him. They were eight

735
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: eight eighth in sacks, tied for eight in sacks without him,

736
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: where Shaun Gary had developed into a ferocious pass rusher

737
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: without him. Now you're gonna have to Now you don't

738
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: get the double team Rashaun Garrett anymore. You hopefully double

739
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: team Michaeh Parsons, but you got other people to deal with.

740
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: And it's not like they needed Michael Parsons. This is

741
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: icing on a cake, Minchell. This is this is the topping.

742
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: This is the cherry, and this is a big, juicy

743
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: cherry on top of Green Bay, Green and Gold Sunday

744
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: that they're going to love like. He takes them over

745
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: the top. Menchell, He gives them not credibility because they

746
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: had credibility. But for example, if you take the game

747
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: we had Thursday night football in Detroit, Green Bay Packers

748
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: versus Detroit Lions. They won that game. Detroit Lions won

749
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: that game by three points. Michael Parsons, I think changes

750
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: the outcome of that game. Like that's how much of

751
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: a difference maker he is. I think he ruled when's

752
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: that game for the Detroit Lions. I don't think you

753
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: you can isol him with Penay Sewel all day and think,

754
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: oh man, this is just gonna go great. And I

755
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: also don't think you just slide to him and leave

756
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: Rashan gary to to just feast. And so I think

757
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: he changes the trajectory and the dynamic of this division.

758
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: It makes them the clear favorites in this division, and honestly,

759
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: right under, right under, because I still have question marks

760
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: about Jordan Love. I just don't know, you know, because

761
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: in big games, in huge games, he hasn't shown me

762
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: what I need to see to say, hey, he'll take

763
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: them to the Promised Land, because that's but will he

764
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: ruin it for him? I don't think, you know, maybe not,

765
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: And so that's the question mark. Now I think this defense,

766
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: I think they have a good enough defense to take

767
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: them where they need to go to win this division,

768
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: to be dominant, to really to really have impact, to

769
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: find a way to get home field advantage in the playoffs. Mitchell,

770
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: They I mean, they're with the phil Eagles right there,

771
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: but they got to prove it. That's the thing that

772
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: that differentiates them from the Philadelphia Eagles. The Philadelphia Eagles

773
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: have just won a Super Bowl, they win to multiple

774
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: super Bowls. They're proven, they're proven product. It's not speculatory.

775
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: It's not oh man, it looks good on paper. This

776
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: looks great on paper. It looks like they got a

777
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: ton better. But I think Jordan Love and how he

778
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: plays will determine how deep they can go. And that's

779
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: obviously going to be the case regardless. But this defense

780
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: is doing enough like they're they're going to be phenomenal.

781
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: If they're not top three defenses in the league, I'd

782
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: be really, really really surprised.

783
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: And to your point, I mean, you you look at

784
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: this Packers team, Jordan Love, he's only going to get better.

785
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: In my opinion that they just added Matthew Gold in

786
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: the draft. Word from him at camp is he's, you know,

787
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: definitely exceeding expectations from.

788
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: What they thought.

789
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: You already have a very good wide receiving corps, very

790
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: young wide receiving corps tight ends. You know, is the

791
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: offense going to be able to do enough to be

792
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: able to elevate them to that championship contender? Because I

793
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: think you're right. I think the Packers with the addition

794
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: of Micah Parsons, certainly have a super Bowl caliber defense. Now,

795
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: this move reminds me a lot of what the Philadelphia

796
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: Eagles did last year. They took some huge swings. They

797
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: went out and got Saquon Barkley. I mean, look how

798
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: that all paid off. You know, in years prior to that,

799
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: they went out and got aj Brown. I mean, these

800
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: are teams that are not afraid to be making huge

801
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: moves that are going to impact, you know, the direction

802
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: of the franchise for not just this year, but the

803
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: next five ten years. Micah Parsons is one of those

804
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: guys that he's going to be a relevant mainstay in

805
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: this league for the next seven eight years and I

806
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: don't think there's much debate about that. It hurts me

807
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: to my soul that he is in this NFC North

808
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: Division because I thought this division was a Detroit Lions

809
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: for the next five years with these and now it

810
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 2: gives me a little bit of pause, My friend.

811
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: It should give you Pauls because Brandon, I mean John Jacobs,

812
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: Brandon Jacobs, I don't know why, how old I am.

813
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs had thirteen hundred yards last year, fifteen touchdowns.

814
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: He's coming back. He's gonna be healthy. That run game

815
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: is as healthy as has ever been. The thing that

816
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: worries me is the two teams I just talked about,

817
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: like in Jordan Love and Packers. Fans can hate me

818
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: and feel how they want about me. But he threw

819
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: three interceptions in that game in the playoffs, in the

820
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: wild card game, they ran the ball well and they

821
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: didn't stop Saquon Barky. Sakon Barkley ran for one hundred

822
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: and nineteen yards, and you just got it worse against

823
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: a run like you lose Kenny Clark. It's not like, hey,

824
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: that's sure, you get Michael Parsons, that's phenomenal. Against the

825
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: pass they didn't. I mean, I think Jimenn Hurts had

826
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty one yards passing in the playoff

827
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: game last year. It's the run game that concerns me

828
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: going forward, and I mean the run defense. And they

829
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: were seventh last year, which is fantastic. I think it

830
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: was historical. They averaged under one hundred yards rushing a

831
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: game giving up so that was his for the It's

832
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: been a long time since the Green Bay Packers had

833
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: a run game that well. But that good. But then

834
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: you give up one hundred and nineteen in the playoffs

835
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: when you need to have it, your offense only scores

836
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: ten points, you lose that game. So when I'm talking

837
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: about Jordan Love, I'm not talking about the season he had.

838
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: He had twenty five touchdowns, eleven interceptions, But in the

839
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: playoffs multiple years, his interceptions have become an issue. It

840
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: was an issue the year before against San Francisco, when

841
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: you know it looked like they were in that game,

842
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: he got in a two minute drill through it to

843
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: the other team. I think back to back drives he

844
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: threw interceptions. If I'm not mistaken, my memory doesn't isn't

845
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: as clear as he used to be. But this defense

846
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: can give them a chance in those games. Now, maybe

847
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: it'll be different this year, and they can they can

848
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: be they can be great. They can it's gonna be

849
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fantastic. But he has to show up

850
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: in these playoff games and win them. He has to

851
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: show up and make the plays that get his team

852
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: over the top and not the plays that that get

853
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: his team sent home. And you can be as mad

854
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: as you want to, but three interceptions, no touchdowns in

855
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: the ball game, it says what it needs to say.

856
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: And then you watch Matthew Stafford play a totally different game.

857
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: Obviously conditions were different and scope, but they had a

858
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: chance to win that game at the end and out.

859
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: The Rams were as good as the Green Bay Packers

860
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: were last year, but quarterback play made the difference in

861
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: that game, and so that's going to be the case

862
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: going forward. Can he outplay these veteran great quarterbacks and

863
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: get this team who has all the talent in the

864
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: world to get to a Super Bowl to the Super Bowl?

865
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: Well to your point, and three playoff games started his career,

866
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: and remember he had a big one too, when they

867
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: took care of the Dallas Cowboys on the road with

868
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: relative ease two years ago. Jordan Love has a passer

869
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: rating at eighty three point four six hundred and seventy

870
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: eight yards, five touchdowns, five touchdowns coupled with five crucial interceptions.

871
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: Can he avoid that? Can he just be a game

872
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: manager and a leader that elevates this team offensively to

873
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: match what they are able to do defensively. This Green

874
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: Bay Packers team certainly scares me off a Detroit Lions fan.

875
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you right now, Richard, why I

876
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: believe the Detroit Lions are gonna win this NFC North again.

877
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions that they are built the right way,

878
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: and and sure they lost, they lost both of their coordinators,

879
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: but I'll take that as a huge compliment for what

880
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell has been building here. You know, they lose

881
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn who goes off to the New York Jets.

882
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: They lose Ben Johnson, the mastermind, the offensive the offensive genius,

883
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: who is now staying in division come on, man and

884
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: going to the Chicago Bears. But they got a guy

885
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: in Johnny Morton who's been part of this organization in

886
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: years past. Dan Campbell does not tread far from who

887
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: he believes in. Johnny Martin was part of this staff

888
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: prior to going to Denver the last couple of years.

889
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: He comes back, he's already said he's gonna be taking

890
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: more shots downfield. The Detroit Lions have got some absolute

891
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: juggernaut offensive weapons. Let's start offensively, Jared Goff. You all

892
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 2: know what we're gonna get with Jared Goff. You're gonna

893
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: get consummate pro the guy who's fallen into I think

894
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: the perfect state of his career. This is peak Jared

895
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: Goff right now. I don't think we're gonna see in

896
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: terms of his age, in terms of everyone around him,

897
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: his offensive weapons. Jared Goff is going to continue to

898
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: elevate this offense for Detroit Lions. I'm on Ross Saint Brown,

899
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: one of the top wide receivers and most sure handed

900
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: receivers in the NFL. He is their safety net. The

901
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: big guy here, Jamison Williams. The maturation of Jamison Williams

902
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: over his first three years in the league. Now entering

903
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: his fourth year, this is we're gonna We're gonna see

904
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: him shine and I know it's fantasy football time. I

905
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 2: see Jamison Williams firmly as a top twenty wide receiver

906
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: statistically this year in the league. He can take the

907
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: top off the off the opposing defenses, and this is

908
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: exact actly what they're gonna need to be able to

909
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: beat a team like the Green Bay Packers. Jamison Williams. Right, Richard,

910
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: if this guy can have a thousand yards, you know,

911
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: seventy catches, uh, eight touchdowns, tell me that's not feasible.

912
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean, because this guy is feasible, is very much

913
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: so prime another guy who's playing for that next contract.

914
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: And then, God love Brad Holmes. You know, they just

915
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: made a huge trade. They traded Tim Patrick, who a

916
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: lot of folks thought was going to be for sure

917
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: their number three wide receiver to get us. They were

918
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: able to move on from Tim Patrick and make some

919
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: roster tweaks, free up an extra roster spot because they

920
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: drafted a guy in Isaac Taslaw. Richard Isaac Taslah grew

921
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: up in the western side of Michigan. He went to

922
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: a small Christian school. No one knew who he was.

923
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: He went to.

924
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: Hillsdale College, which is a very very small school here

925
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: in Michigan, very small. So well, he ran the wing

926
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: tea as a quarterback and running back. You know, speak

927
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: to me, rich I'll speak to you here for a second.

928
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: And then he goes to Hillsdale and because of this

929
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 2: lovely thing they call the transfer portal, he was able

930
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: to end up at Arkansas, where he was really not

931
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: that utilized. I know Arkansas had some quarterback issues last year.

932
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: They didn't really get him a ball a ton. I

933
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: think he meted out less than forty receptions. But Brad

934
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: Holmes made a huge swing. He traded multiple picks to

935
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: move up in this year's draft. In draft Isaac Tesla

936
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: and everyone questioned it. Everybody but Richard. I don't need

937
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: to live in Detroit and be exposed to Detroit media

938
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: to see how big of an impact this guy has made.

939
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he was all over NFL's Instagram with all

940
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: the catches he was making this preseason. This is a

941
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: six foot four guy that runs a sub four four

942
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 2: forty who reminds me a lot, a lot, a lot

943
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: of Puka Nakua. If the Detroit Lions could have found

944
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: a diamond in the and Isaac t Slough and partnered

945
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: him up with Jamison Williams, with i'man Ross, Saint Brown,

946
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: with the beast that is Jamiir Gibbs, Sam Laporta, David Montgomery.

947
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: Where would you like me to stop? Because I know

948
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers added Micah Parsons, But Richard, this

949
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions team is the best youngest team in the

950
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: NFL right now. I think they've got the most players

951
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: under the age of twenty five that made the highest

952
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: ranks in NFL's top one hundred. That is offensively, and

953
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: then you look at the defensive side of the ball.

954
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna come out and say it. This

955
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: might surprise some of you guys. I think the Detroit

956
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 2: Lions are gonna have a top three defense this year.

957
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: And you get a healthy Aiden Hutchinson, you get absolute

958
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: stalwarts in the middle, Alee McNeil battling an injury. You know,

959
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: I had a terrible ACL injury. Who didn't get injured

960
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: Last year on the defense for the Lions. Thirteen defensive

961
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: players won on ir last year. I saw a crazy

962
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: stat after this, Philadelphia.

963
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 3: Eagles won the Super Bowl.

964
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: Did you know that twenty one of twenty two Day

965
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: one starters for the Philadelphia Eagles played in the Super Bowl?

966
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: Did you know it?

967
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean, because this shows you the NFL is not

968
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: just about ability, it's about durability.

969
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: It's about sustained availability.

970
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: And the main one availability Detroit unfortunately did not have

971
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: anyone available, and we saw it unfortunately when they lost

972
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: to the Commanders. But you look at this defense at

973
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: the back end, Brian Branch, Kirby Joseph. They just added

974
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: your buddy DJ Reid on the outside at corner, and

975
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: then you get a Terry On Arnold, a Meek Robertson dog. Richard,

976
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: where would you like me to stop? Because I really

977
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: firmly believe that this Detroit Lions team is well ready

978
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: to make this run. They have a gauntlet of a schedule.

979
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: If you guys have not looked at their schedule, I

980
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: believe they said it's probably goes down as one of

981
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: the hardest schedules in NFL history. They're gonna have to

982
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: battle a lot of opponents on the road, Kansas City Chiefs,

983
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, Baltimore Ravens, obviously the gauntlet of division that

984
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: we're in right now. But I'm telling you, I said,

985
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions win in twelve games, twelve and five.

986
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: Richard.

987
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: I gotta hear from you, though, man, because I know

988
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: you like the Green Bay Packers right now. But come on, man,

989
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: show me some love for my Detroit Lions.

990
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: At least, I gotta show you love to your Detroit

991
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: Lions and the Honolulu Blue Boys Metro because they are

992
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: a fantastic team, and I think Jared Golf is going

993
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: to have another good season. Obviously, their offensive line has

994
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: been I mean, along with the Philadelphia Eagles, probably one

995
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: of the best in football. The issue that I have

996
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: a health as always Taylor Decker low banged up, already

997
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: low banged up, And anytime you come into the season

998
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: with questionables, you concern, especially at all offensive blind Graham

999
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: Glasgow a little banged up, yep, and you're going to

1000
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: have to deal with pressure and what doom the season

1001
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: last year was mistakes from the quarterback position and pressure,

1002
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: like people started to get And I hadn't said this

1003
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 1: in a long time.

1004
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: I had not.

1005
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: I had not said this about Jared Goff because he

1006
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: just looked different in Detroit. I don't know if he

1007
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: went there and they injected that blue collar toughness into

1008
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: his veins, but he turned into a different quarterback. Not

1009
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: not a more effective or better talent wise, just different

1010
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: in how he responded to physicality and how he responded

1011
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: to getting hit and turn and standing up and standing

1012
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: in the pocket, standing strong. Like there were times when

1013
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: he was with the Rams that his reputation was hey,

1014
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: if you hit him. A few times, he's going to

1015
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: start to get flutter, he's gonna his feet are gonna

1016
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: get quicker, his his passes are gonna be erratic. And

1017
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: that's that's the recipe for having success.

1018
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: I feel like we need to cue the video of

1019
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 2: you knocking out Jared Goff at the one yard line

1020
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 2: during his rookie year. If you guys have not seen

1021
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: this video, please, I mean, Richard, have you hit somebody

1022
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: harder than when you hit Jared Goff and knocked them

1023
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: out of that game?

1024
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: What?

1025
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 3: Seven eight years ago?

1026
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: Love strummings chasing Duff away, flag gets strown, and Doc

1027
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 4: with a whole oh gets slammed down a bounds of

1028
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: free by Richard Sherman, knocking along his speen, but does

1029
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 4: a flag down back at the twenty eight yard line.

1030
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: No, I don't, I don't. I don't think I've ever

1031
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: hit anybody harder in my life. But but that's that's

1032
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: what happened late in the season. And also the defense

1033
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: was just so banged up, Like, let's just be honest here,

1034
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: you was still banged up. They were taking guys off

1035
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: the street literally starting them. So I'm not gonna put

1036
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: that against them, but they gave up forty five points

1037
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: to the Washington Commanders and at doing the season, three

1038
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: turnovers by Jared Golf and forty five points for the defense.

1039
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: You can't do much with that. Jared Goff still scored.

1040
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean that offense still scored thirty one points. That

1041
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: should have been be enough to win in the National

1042
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: Football League. But you don't want to run into that

1043
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: situation again and again. You talk about guys understanding how

1044
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: to affect this offense and say, hey, you got all

1045
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: these great receivers, you got this great offensive line, but

1046
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: the way we can stop this offense is hitting the

1047
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: quarterback and getting pressure on the quarterback. So that's why

1048
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers felt like it was a need

1049
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: for them to go get one of the best pass

1050
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: rushers available in the National Football League to change the

1051
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: trajectory of these games when they play the Detroit Lions. Now, again,

1052
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: is Jamiir Gibbs going to continue to evolve into one

1053
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: of the best running backs in the National Football League?

1054
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: I believe so. There are people who believe he's the

1055
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: best running back in football, and he's shown that he's

1056
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: been impactful, But how does he continue to take the

1057
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: next step and what does that look like? What does

1058
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: his defense look like? Terry on Arnold is a name

1059
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: I want to talk about. That's my dog. I sat

1060
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: there and had a great conversation with him at the draft,

1061
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: and he has really high expectations for this defense and

1062
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: how they played in the conversations and the connection and

1063
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: brotherhood that they have in that back end along with

1064
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Brian Brandt. He has really high expectations for this team.

1065
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson coming back from injury, he tried everything he

1066
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: could to get back for the playoffs last year. I

1067
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: think he takes the next step, but you got to

1068
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: stay healthy, and again that health doom them. Health is

1069
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: dooming these seams, and that's an unpredictable factor in the

1070
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: National Football League. But I thought last year was the

1071
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: year that they had to like do it because it

1072
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: was perfect scenario, and unfortunately it didn't work out for them.

1073
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: The year before like a Cinderella year, they weren't expected

1074
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: to do much and they got all the way to

1075
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship up double digits, and unfortunately it didn't

1076
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: go the way they wanted it to. What happens this

1077
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: year when everybody in the division is getting better. I

1078
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: minus the Minnesota Vikings. I think the Minnesota Vikings got worse.

1079
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think JJ McCarthy is as good as Sam Donald.

1080
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be as prepared or

1081
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: won the offense as proficiently as Sam Donald did. I

1082
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: thought that was a Cinderella season for them that they

1083
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: had to maximize, and I don't think they did. I

1084
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: think they take a step back. I think the Chicago

1085
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: Bears with Ben Johnson did a lot to solidify their

1086
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: offensive line and at least give Caleb Williams a chance

1087
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: to develop into what people think he is. And if

1088
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't, it's clear and a parent it's him and

1089
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: not the offense or the scheme or the team. It's him.

1090
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: So if he has a good season, it's like, hey,

1091
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: he just needed time, he just needed protection. If he doesn't,

1092
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't it for him. But I think they're

1093
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: going to be better. Their defense is stout, they have

1094
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: weapons on all they have Ben Johnson call into play,

1095
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: so they may be a sneaky team. This is NFC

1096
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: North Gauntlet Murderers.

1097
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: Row it sure is.

1098
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: I mean you already touched a little bit on JJ McCarthy.

1099
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: This Vikings team no one saw it coming. Last year

1100
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: fourteen to three. I mean, dude, the last game of

1101
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: the season, they were playing the Detroit Lions, both with

1102
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: two losses. Whoever won that game was going to be

1103
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 2: the number one seed in the NFC. That is absolutely

1104
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: unheard of, especially in a seventeen game schedule. Now they

1105
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: move on from Sam Donald, they get JJ McCarthy. Obviously

1106
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: he gets hurt year one beneficiary Sam Donald. I don't

1107
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: know if the McCarthy starts.

1108
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: Year one anyway.

1109
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: So Sam Donald, you know, obviously took that team to

1110
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: heights they never expected. But you got to think that

1111
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, with a year under his belt and with

1112
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson as his number one option, is going to

1113
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: have some level of success. You really see that big

1114
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: of a downfall, and if so, how much.

1115
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't don't like unproven. I don't like to go guessing.

1116
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't like to figure it out. I think they

1117
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: had a sure thing and a guy who fit their

1118
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: scheme and fit their system, and Sam Darnold I thought, hey,

1119
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: it might have been a Cinderella season, but you know,

1120
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: it's working. It was kind of like Nick Foles when

1121
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: he had that Cinderella run with the Philadelphia Eagles, they

1122
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: beat they win the Super Bowl to beat Tom and

1123
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: those boys, and then they go on and pay Carson

1124
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: Wentz all that money and they trade Nick Foles. And

1125
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: I understand you feel like Carson Wentz is the guy,

1126
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: you feel like Nick Foles isn't. But sometimes the hot

1127
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: hand just keep going, just keep going. Maybe this engine

1128
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: only works in this car, but it works incredible over

1129
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: and above expectations. So just keep that engine in the car.

1130
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: Don't sit there and be like, yeah, but we might

1131
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: have a better engine in the back, Like, no, this

1132
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: one's proven, this one's won races, like, go with this one,

1133
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: And that's the mistake. I think teams keep making it.

1134
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota vikings On the newest victim of that,

1135
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: and sure, maybe he does solid. I think Kevin O'Connell

1136
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: is arguably the best play caller in the league right now.

1137
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: So it should be open, people open, and the run

1138
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: game should be there and he should be set up

1139
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: for ultimate success. But if he doesn't, then they gave

1140
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: up Sam Donald in for a Maybe it's just the

1141
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: same thing that Jerry Jones is doing in Dallas. You

1142
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: have an all pro, three time All Pro player, and

1143
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: you say, well, we'll take two draft picks because we

1144
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: might be able to draft some all pro players in

1145
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: a couple of years.

1146
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure you will.

1147
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you, But like, how does that help

1148
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: you win? Now? And if JJ McCarthy works out and

1149
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: he becomes a pro bowler and has and they win

1150
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: thirteen games this year, I'll sit there and eat eat

1151
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: crow because I was wrong. But I don't see a

1152
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback behind that offensive line, the offensive line that

1153
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: was getting Sam Donald beat up late in the year

1154
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: in this division with a lot of really good pass

1155
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: rushers always, I don't think they're gonna go out there

1156
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: and replicate what they did last season. In every game

1157
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: he loses, They're going to start the fans and everybody

1158
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: else is gonna say, man, what Sam Donald has lost

1159
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: that game? He went fourteen and three, and the expectation

1160
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be fourteen and three for this year, but

1161
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: that is what y'all did, And so you're gonna put

1162
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: that burden of expectation on this kid. So if he

1163
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: wins seven games, Mitchell, they're gonna be calling for his head.

1164
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: Like that's the situation, that's the seat he's sitting in

1165
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: right now. And that's the point I'm trying to make.

1166
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: What I don't think he's set up for necessarily success. Addison,

1167
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Adison is gonna be out the first three games.

1168
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: They brought Adam Thielen back, Sure that'll help, but people,

1169
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: people are not gonna just let Justin Jefferson run around

1170
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: and be Scott free and be open and just hey,

1171
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna just let

1172
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: him play pitch and catch with the rookie like I

1173
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a learning curve. And during that

1174
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: learning curve, will the fans continue to support or will

1175
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: they sit there and start to be frustrated and say, hey,

1176
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: why didn't we keep Sam darl If you guys knew.

1177
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 3: It's fair?

1178
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean, but this is a coaching staff that was

1179
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: able to get it done with Sam Darnold, who was

1180
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: kicked around the league with Kirk Cousins. I mean, I

1181
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: know he's been battling injuries of recent but this team

1182
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: was able to get it done with relative castoffs. Right,

1183
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 2: So now it's JJ McCarthy's time to shine. That is

1184
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: a big, big question mark. Let's turn to the Bears

1185
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: quickly Ben Johnson right, Dan Campbell loses both corners. Ben

1186
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: Johnson's was the heaviest hit because he was considered this

1187
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: absolute dynamo offensive mastermind. Can he replicate this with the Bears?

1188
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 2: The Bears have a bundle of offensive weapons DJ Moore obviously,

1189
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: Roma Dunza. They just drafted Luther Burden and Colston Lovelin,

1190
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: who they love in Chicago.

1191
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 3: Right now, they.

1192
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: Got a mixed bag of running backs. DeAndre Swift. Maybe

1193
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: he can revitalize his career in Chicago. Are you worried

1194
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: about the Bears as a speaking from my standpoint is

1195
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: a Detroit as a friend of a Detroit Lions fan, Richard,

1196
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: I'd be worried about the Bears. I don't know about worry.

1197
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 1: You should be worried that they're not a dumpster fire

1198
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 1: that they you know, I think they had. They're gonna

1199
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: have an identity. They're building a really solid team and

1200
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a solid foundation that could have the

1201
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: potential to be a really good team because you got

1202
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: to get offensive line, you got a good defense, You'll

1203
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: have a good running game. It's gonna be based on

1204
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: how the quarterback played, and he played solid last year.

1205
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he had a lot of scrutiny,

1206
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people beating him down. He had a

1207
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: solid season last year. He had twenty touchdowns, six interceptions,

1208
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: and he was under a lot of the rest, under

1209
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. You know, made some mistakes, only

1210
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: sixty two percent completion percentage, But it wasn't as bad

1211
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: as they said. That's why I think Ben Johnson came

1212
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: in here. He thinks it's an easy fix. And we'll see.

1213
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: If he goes out there and has a great season

1214
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: and he's the guy that everybody projected him to be

1215
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: coming out of USC, you may have something to worry

1216
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: about too, and maybe they may be that team that

1217
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: they you know, they that you surprisingly split with that

1218
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: you weren't expecting to. But that's a big if. Again,

1219
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: quarterback situations, this is the the new quarterback. I mean,

1220
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: the question marks that quarterback for the Bears, question mark

1221
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: at quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. What are they going

1222
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: to do? Because that dictates how high these teams can

1223
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 1: go and how low. And I guess that's a true

1224
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: for every single team. But if Caleb Williams plays well,

1225
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: the team wins and they're a ten win team, but

1226
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: Vegas has n't met eight and a half.

1227
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: I agree with that, all right, So burning question here.

1228
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: You know, I already got the Detroit Lions. Who do

1229
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: you like in this division?

1230
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: And I don't. This is the Packers won eleven games

1231
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: with with the roster they had, and I think they've

1232
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: gotten better. I think they can win twelve or thirteen games.

1233
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: This season. The Lions went fifteen to two and unfortunately

1234
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: lost in Divisional. I think they're gonna have a hard

1235
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: time replicating that. I still got Detroit winning. I got

1236
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Detroit winning the division with Green Bay right there on

1237
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: their heels and them playing. Yeah. Yeah, I got them

1238
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 1: split in a series, but I got the Lions winning

1239
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: the division.

1240
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sound like you with the NFC West. I

1241
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: think they both finished twelve and five, and I think somehow,

1242
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: some way, the Detroit Lions won that tiebreaker and win

1243
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: the division.

1244
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: This division, the.

1245
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: NFC East, is the one I'm probably most excited to

1246
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: talk about, just based on the new news that came out.

1247
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: We cannot start with any other team other than the

1248
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys.

1249
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: Richard.

1250
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: We talked about it off air, We've talked about it

1251
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: on air, Jerry Jones.

1252
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: I just go back to Mark D'Antonio.

1253
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: Man, I'm such a Michigan State Spartan fan, and he

1254
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: had one iconic line as pertaining to Mike Hart and

1255
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: the University of Michigan Wolverines. When Mike Hart called him

1256
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 2: little brother, Mark D'Antonio went on and said, pride comes

1257
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: before the fall. Has Jerry Jones's pride gotten in the way?

1258
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, he's gotten in a way, in a big way.

1259
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those franchise defining moments

1260
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: that could have been avoided where you're drafted, well developed,

1261
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: well all pro players. You did it with Dak Prescott,

1262
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: you did it with Cedee Lamb, Trey Diggs, etc. You

1263
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: paid the guys. Tyron Smith is in there. They used

1264
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: to have offensive linemen, but now a guy who impacts.

1265
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: You watched the Philadelphia Eagles in your division go to

1266
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with one of the most ferocious pass

1267
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,919
Speaker 1: rushes terrorize one of the best quarterbacks in the National

1268
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: Football League on their way to a Super Bowl dominant

1269
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl win, and you said, hmm, yeah, I think

1270
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: we should trade away our best pass rusher because that

1271
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: seems like to the Super Bowl. It makes a lot

1272
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: of sense. I know that every other Super Bowl has

1273
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,919
Speaker 1: had something to do with defense and a dominant pass

1274
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: rusher and a dominant pass rush. Even when the San

1275
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers lose to the Kansas City Chiefs

1276
01:07:55,080 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: the year before, what was the defining play? It was

1277
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: Chris Jones pressure on Brod Purdy unblocked that if he

1278
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: if he's picked up, San Francisco wins that Super Bowl,

1279
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't he gets to a quarterback. You look at

1280
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl between the Bengals and the Rams. Oh

1281
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: my god, Jamar Chase wide open for a touchdown to

1282
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: win the game. What happens Aaron doren don ruins it.

1283
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: Like Patrick Mahomes loses to Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay

1284
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: Buccaneers both tackles out, pass rush, beat beat him, beat

1285
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: the crap out of him. Lost. So when you see

1286
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: these things happen over and over and over and over,

1287
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: and you see how the league has evolved. But you

1288
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: see the factor in the end in these big games

1289
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: is usually pass rush. Like you got the receiver quarterback

1290
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: combo cool, You have to have the franchise quarterback that

1291
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: makes it. But defensively, you have to have pass rush.

1292
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: So what you did was put your team further away

1293
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: from a Super Bowl because you didn't want to negotiate

1294
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: with an agent. So you're talking about pride comes before

1295
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: the fall. This was stupidity. This was utter nonsense because

1296
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: you can't justify this any other way. And you're like, oh,

1297
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: we got a boatload of picks for Michael. Picks don't

1298
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: mean nothing, like picks are are a bunch of fluff

1299
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: and conjunction like conjuncture, like there's nothing that those picks

1300
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: are gonna do to help you this year. And I

1301
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: saw Daz Bryant put out a tweet, Oh, we're going

1302
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: after arch Manning in a couple years. That's why we're

1303
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: stacking up pick. But what how does that help you

1304
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl? You are paying Dak Prescott sixty

1305
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: million dollars, so bringing in arch Manning is gonna make

1306
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: the difference. I don't I don't think that does it.

1307
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: Defense pass rush is what you need to be securing,

1308
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: and you just made your defense a lot worse, a

1309
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: lot worse. Not that Kenny Clark isn't a great player

1310
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: and a Pro Bowl player, and he's gonna be impactful

1311
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: at the defensive tackle position. Probably helped them stop the run,

1312
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: but now they're gonna just be able to drop back

1313
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: and pass. You got worse. I'm sure the Philadelphia Eagles,

1314
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders at New York Giants, they're cheering for Jerry Jones.

1315
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: Thank God, they couldn't have heard better news. Then you

1316
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: have traded away arguably the best player in one of

1317
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: the best players in your division, one of the best

1318
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: players on your team. And that's not like you could

1319
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: argue with somebody else, Like there's not anybody in the

1320
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: league that wouldn't say he's arguably the best player on

1321
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: their team. You're on drugs if you think otherwise. But

1322
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand how you could justify that. But

1323
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: he can't. And when this team goes what they have

1324
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: Matt eight and five, that seems accurate, maybe lower than that,

1325
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: because you got a new coach, you got a new coordinator,

1326
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: you don't have Dan Quinn on that defense anymore. Night

1327
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: there's so many things that you don't. Don't have Al

1328
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: Harris in that secondary where he's coaching these guys to

1329
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: ten picks, eleven picks, nine picks, sixes like you got

1330
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: rid of a lot of the things that made you

1331
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: great and got worse.

1332
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 2: I echo your sentiments, and we saw it when DeMarcus

1333
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: Lawrence went left town too. I mean, here's a guy

1334
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 2: who was a stalwart for this team, who spent his

1335
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 2: entire career with the Dallas Cowboys. You know they didn't

1336
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: they didn't want to pay him either. So he says

1337
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: in his parting shot when he left was I want

1338
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 2: to go to a place I can win a Super Bowl,

1339
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: and he goes to the Seattle Seahawks. You know that

1340
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: right there, the way you're treating your veterans, and Micah

1341
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: Parson's got to peek behind the curtain with the way

1342
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: they handled it with Ceedee Lamb. You know that the

1343
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 2: way that situation drug out. Jerry Jones just shooting himself

1344
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: in the foot because he watched I'm on Rocke get paid,

1345
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 2: He watched Tyreek get paid, he watched all these other

1346
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 2: guys get paid, and then he says, I gotta pay

1347
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: Cedde Lamb. If he would have just it's been proactive

1348
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 2: and signed the guy three to six months earlier, he

1349
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 2: would have saved five million dollars a year. I mean,

1350
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: you look at the aman Rod Saint Brown contract, which

1351
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: is pretty much what he could have signed CD for,

1352
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: and now Saint Brown is not even a top ten

1353
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 2: paid wide receiver.

1354
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 3: In the league.

1355
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: You know the same thing with Bosa.

1356
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,799
Speaker 2: Exactly, and you look at the same thing with Micah Parsons.

1357
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: Now he let this play out for far too long,

1358
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 2: messed around, and he found out, Richard, he found out

1359
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,480
Speaker 2: in the worst way. And to your point, those those assets,

1360
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: those draft capital, that's just a shiny object. The rycoldhar

1361
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: reality of those picks. Unless there's a monstrous injury with

1362
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers, those picks are going to be

1363
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: in the high twenties minimum. So you're trading an absolute

1364
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: game wrecker in Micah Parsons for a Pro Bowl caliber

1365
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: defensive tackle and Kenny Clark and two late round first

1366
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: picks or first round picks. That just does not make

1367
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: sense to me. For the first time in probably ten years, Richard,

1368
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: I would say I would trade places with the New

1369
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: York Giants as opposed to being the Dallas Cowboys, because

1370
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: the way they've orchestrated their roster makes a heck of

1371
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: a lot more sense to me than what they're doing

1372
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: in Dallas right now.

1373
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: It does, and I think this is low. They got

1374
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: him at six and a half wins for the Giants.

1375
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: I think the Giants can win seven eight games because

1376
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: of how their defensive line is built. More than anything,

1377
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: I think they got some issues on the offensive line.

1378
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 1: I think Russell Wilson is gonna be really solid for them.

1379
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna be better than Daniel Jones, has been no

1380
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: question about it. He's gonna help malikue neighbors have a

1381
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: great season. He's gonna help that offense to be a

1382
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: lot more effective. But I think that defense is going

1383
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: to be ferocious. That pass rush with all the guys

1384
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 1: they have, is going to Brian Burns. They got Dexter

1385
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 1: Lawrence x dex the rookie that they just drafted at Louisville,

1386
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: card Abdul Carter, like Thibodau like, that's those four on

1387
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: third down and nine Like, who wants to deal with that?

1388
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: And so not only do you get worse now again,

1389
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 1: what we talked about, a defensive line of ferocious password

1390
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: can ruin games. It can literally ruin games. They can

1391
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: ruin games for teams. So that's why I don't know

1392
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: what the Giants record is gonna be because that's a

1393
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: you gotta puncher's chance every time. Like they can literally

1394
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: go out there and in two sack, force fumbles and

1395
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: change the trajectory of any game. And you have guys

1396
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: that can get there in a flash. So I look

1397
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: forward to seeing them in action. I think they they

1398
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: they get eight to nine wins in this division. I

1399
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys and the Giants, flip I got the

1400
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 1: Giants have probably more eight and a half in my opinion.

1401
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: In the Cowboys, the left tackle Tyler Geiden is out

1402
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: for an extended amount of time with a new fracture.

1403
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: That's another huge deal. You got the philadel Eagles coming

1404
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: into town first game of the season. Then you got

1405
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: the New York Giants in this crazy pass for USh.

1406
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: You got to hope you can outscore them. And if

1407
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: you can't predict the quarterback, then you got a sixty

1408
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: million dollars quarterback thirty five million dollar receiver who can't

1409
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: get the ball. They should win that game easily, but

1410
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: you could also see a world where that pass rush

1411
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: gets home and it makes it really difficult. I think

1412
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles are gonna be who they've been this

1413
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: entire time. I mean They're gonna be consistent. They got

1414
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber roster again, they're coming off the

1415
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl win. They're so consistent. One of the best

1416
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: offensive lines in football, where the best defensive lines in football,

1417
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: and as we know, trench warfare is what wins in

1418
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: the National Football League. They still got the reigning offensive

1419
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: Player of the Year in Saquon Barkley, the reigning Madden Athlete.

1420
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: Still got Jalen Hurts. They still got all All Day,

1421
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: always Open aj Brown, They still got Davontae Smith. So

1422
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the talent is still there. All the things

1423
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: that they need are still there to make another run.

1424
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: So I expect them to win this division easily going away.

1425
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: I think the Commanders right around nine and a half

1426
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: ten wins wins if Jayden Daniels doesn't have this sophomore slump,

1427
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: if he continues to play as efficient and effective as

1428
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: he's been, and Deebo Samuel can come in and make

1429
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: an impact like he did in his earlier years in

1430
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Defensively, I think they need to take a

1431
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: step forward, But you know, I think that's tough. Bobby

1432
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: Wagner is going to continue to anchor that group, so

1433
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: I think they got nine to ten wins in them.

1434
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: I think they go to the playoffs. But I got

1435
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 1: the Eagles winning this game, I mean winning this division,

1436
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: and I think the Cowboys and Giants compete for those

1437
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,560
Speaker 1: last the three and four spots.

1438
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

1439
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: The one thing about the Commanders is like they're looking

1440
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: like they're on win now mode too. They're kind of

1441
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: operating like the Green Bay Packers, like the Philadelphia Eagles.

1442
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: They go out and get Laramie Tunzel. They go out

1443
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: and get your friend Deebo Samuel, like they have weapons.

1444
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: The one area of concern for the Commanders they really

1445
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: don't have a set running back. Austin Eckler will see

1446
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 2: how much he has left in the tank. They really

1447
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: like this to Cory Krossky Merritt, the rookie.

1448
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1449
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: But what are your expectations of Deebo, because it seems

1450
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: like everyone just kind of cast him aside, like do

1451
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 2: you think he can have a big impact with this

1452
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,919
Speaker 2: offense in Washington?

1453
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: I do. I do. Obviously, ap Adam Peters, a GM

1454
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: for the Washington Commanders, is very familiar with Deebo Samuel

1455
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: and what he can do. I think they'll use him

1456
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: in the right way. I think he'll he'll factor into

1457
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: that backfield in the run game. I think he's highly

1458
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: motivated right now. He's frustrated about everything that they dealt with.

1459
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: They did what they can to protect Jayden Daniels so

1460
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: he can get these passes off. But I think Deebo

1461
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: Samuel is wearing for a really, really good year and

1462
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: remind people of who he's been, and I think that's

1463
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: gonna be really great for the Washington Commanders.

1464
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the NFC soft. This looks like it's

1465
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: Tampa's division yet again. Vegas as them as a minus

1466
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 2: one twenty favorite to win it with the Falcons nipping

1467
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 2: at their heels, and then you know, obviously the Carolina

1468
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: Panthers making some changes. And watch out for the New

1469
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: Orleans Saints. Richard, I tell you what, man, they look

1470
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: really really good. No, they are terrible. But talk to

1471
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,440
Speaker 2: me about talk to me about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

1472
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 2: because it seems like this team has been on the cusp.

1473
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: They've been very, very competitive, they're very good defensively. You know,

1474
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: obviously Baker Mayfield, I think he's made you a fan.

1475
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he certainly has turned his career around and

1476
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: made the Tampa Bay Buccaneers something to fear. How much

1477
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: do you like Tampa in this division right now?

1478
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: I like Tampa. I like Todd Bowles and everything he

1479
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: stands for. I think this team is just a steady ship.

1480
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: They're always where they need to be. I think Mike Evans'

1481
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: career is a perfect analogy for who the Tampa Bay

1482
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 1: Buccaneers are right now and who they've been. Just a

1483
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: steady one thousand yards. No matter what is gonna rise

1484
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: in the East, it's gonna set in the West, and

1485
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: the Butts are gonna win the South. That's the way

1486
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: it's been, and I expect them to only be stronger

1487
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: this year. A Mecca Abuka has been praised a ton

1488
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: in that training camp. He seems to be everything they

1489
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: expected when they drafted him. Obviously, Chris Godwin that's been

1490
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: there for a long time and and been fantastic for

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01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: this franchise. If he can be healthy, that makes this

1492
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,560
Speaker 1: trio a very very difficult trio to deal with. For defenses.

1493
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:34,520
Speaker 1: On the other side, Todd Bowles's defense always creates incredible

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01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: issues for these teams. Won ten games last year, I

1495
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,919
Speaker 1: expect him to win ten games again this year, potentially

1496
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: eleven if they if the Panthers and Saints are as

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01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: bad as they they have been. And I don't I

1498
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: don't have a lot to say about the Falcons or

1499
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: the Panthers or Saints. They're gonna a lot of prove it,

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01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,839
Speaker 1: a lot of things they need to show Pinnicks obviously

1501
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: as the starter, and you know they're expecting big things

1502
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: out of him. Uh, Drake London is it can be

1503
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: one of the best receivers in the National Football League?

1504
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: Will they find a way to finally unlock Kyle Pitts?

1505
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: Those are the questions that they have A j Terrell

1506
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: still one of the best corners of the National Football

1507
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: League back there, he has to find his footing back.

1508
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Carolina Panthers, they got technic Millan T.

1509
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: Mac as he likes to be called. And by the

1510
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 1: end of last year, you saw Bryce. Bryce looked a

1511
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: lot better. He looked more comfortable. Uh, he looked more efficient,

1512
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: more effective, more like the the the guy they thought

1513
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: he was coming out of Alabama. The Saints, I just

1514
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: don't they named spend Spence, Sir Rattler the starter. They

1515
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: named Spencer Rattler the starter I think last week, and

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01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just unless I'm missing something. You know,

1517
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: the covers kind of bear out there in New Orleans

1518
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: right now. Obviously they got some veterans on defense with

1519
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan, uh, you know, the the talents there on defense. Offensively,

1520
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,879
Speaker 1: they got a lot of question marks. Chris Olave obviously

1521
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 1: is a bright spot on that offense. But you gotta

1522
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: you gotta understand what you're getting from quarterbacks. So I

1523
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: think the expectations are low for the Saints. That's why

1524
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: they got four and a half win total from Vegas.

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01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 3: It's gotta be tough, Richard.

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 2: I know you really can't speak to it because I

1527
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 2: feel like every single team you played for had high expectations.

1528
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 3: Going to the season.

1529
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: But if you were a season veat playing for the

1530
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints, I mean that they're they're comparing this

1531
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: quarterback room to one of the worst in NFL history.

1532
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler, as you said, is starting, like how demoralizing

1533
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 2: would it be that you talked about the Seattle Seahawks

1534
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: wanting to play for the guy next to you. It's

1535
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: gotta be tough being a wide receiver for this team,

1536
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 2: no one. I don't know if I'm gonna get a

1537
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 2: shot to catch from many many balls today.

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01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it's been tough for years, and it's tough for

1539
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: a defense to go out there understanding that you're not

1540
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: gonna have much of a chance, you're not getting a

1541
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: lot from the quarterback. I think that's a very frustrating

1542
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: space for them to be in, in a frustrating space

1543
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: for fans, and their only hope and bright brightness at

1544
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel is is to think that

1545
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: arch Manning is in the in the cards somewhere down

1546
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: the line, and you're not even sure that's gotta be

1547
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: what you know, what you think it is. You know

1548
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: it's all up for debate, But I just don't know

1549
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 1: about the Saints that I don't know what they're playing

1550
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: is going forward. The rivalries, the marching bands, the offsets,

1551
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Speaker 2: It's time to move on to the AFC, Richard. Let's

1568
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 2: start with the afcis a team that just will not

1569
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 2: go away, whether you want them to or not. The

1570
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs are are minus one to fifteen favorites

1571
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: to win again eleven and a half over under win total.

1572
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 2: And the biggest news for the off season is off field, right,

1573
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 2: it's Travis Kelcey getting engaged. I mean, I don't know

1574
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: if we needn't even need to talk about any of

1575
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 2: the teams in this division. Man, let's just talk about

1576
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: that for twenty minutes and we're good.

1577
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's rare that you lose the super

1578
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: Bowl and you still get a ring Metell and so

1579
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: it was. It was great for Taylor Swip and Travis Kelce.

1580
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: Happy for them. They look happy in every photo and

1581
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, every event they are, they seem to be

1582
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 1: two supportive partners, happy for him. You know, it's always

1583
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: loving air. It's such a weird time we live in

1584
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: where you got to follow people's personal lives and and

1585
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: comment on on them getting married. But congratulations to you, Mitchell,

1586
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 1: because you got engaged too. You get to it's a

1587
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: ring season.

1588
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I appreciate that.

1589
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate. I definitely appreciate. I followed in Travis Kelsey's footsteps.

1590
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: My man.

1591
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: You know, he motivated me, he motivated you and and

1592
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 1: and congratulates to you and and Bailey. That's freaking awesome.

1593
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 1: But I think that the Chiefs again are the classes

1594
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: this division until proven wrong. They're like, it's hard to

1595
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: bet against them after being in the super Bowl five

1596
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: of the last six years, they've been in the last three.

1597
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't I don't I'm not gonna bet against If

1598
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say somebody else's winning the AFC West,

1599
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. Yes, Rashid Rice is suspended

1600
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: for the first six games of the season with that

1601
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: factor in potentially, but again, as long as they have

1602
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Spags on

1603
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: the defense, they're gonna win eleven twelve games. They're gonna

1604
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: be in the mix at the end. I don't care

1605
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: if they have home field avenge or not. They are

1606
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: the favorites to win the AFC every single year, and

1607
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: I have them as the favorites to win AFC. I

1608
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: think this division has gotten more interesting. I think the

1609
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: Broncos best defense in football last year. They have done

1610
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: nothing to think that they've gotten any worse. Added Drake

1611
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: Green Law Toland Noah Hufanga from the San Francisco forty

1612
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: nine ers. Hugeitions, still got the same cast of characters,

1613
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 1: returning Defensive Player of the Year Pat Certain I think

1614
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna continue to be dominant. I think Drake May

1615
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: I mean Drake May, bone Knicks. I think bon Knicks

1616
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: takes the next step forward in this offense. Uh And

1617
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 1: I think they they I don't think they challenged the

1618
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: Chiefs because I'm not even going to go there. But

1619
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: I think their second I think they make the playoffs

1620
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: and I think they they give people a run for

1621
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: their money. Chargers with with Jim Harball again at won

1622
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: eleven games last year. Justin Herbert needs to win. Now

1623
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: that's it. There's people keep putting them in top ten conversations.

1624
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: He's got to win to prove that he belongs there.

1625
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep putting him in top ten conversations

1626
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: without the playoff success, without the team's success. And I

1627
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: know that the excuses are there every year. What weapons

1628
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 1: does he have? What? What about this? What about that

1629
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: we can make? This? Ain't excuses for Patrick Mahomes. A

1630
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: lot of these years, you can tell me all his

1631
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: weapons in the playoffs. Some of these years you couldn't

1632
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: tell me. Like you can't tell me you'd think that, hey,

1633
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: if we gave Justin Herbert these guys that you would

1634
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: expect him to take this team to the super Bowl.

1635
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 1: So he has to produce. I think he's in a

1636
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: great position with Jim Harball to do that.

1637
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: The big question there, and because I like the Chiefs

1638
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: or the Chargers coming into this season a lot, but

1639
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 2: then they suffer a massive injury to Rayshawn Slater in

1640
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 2: the preseason. I mean, it's just devastating, especially when you

1641
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: see how Jim Harbaugh wants to build this team in

1642
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: the trenches, and they just go and draft Joe Walt,

1643
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, and they get Rayshawn Slater, they get their

1644
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 2: book ends, and then they go and draft the Hammer

1645
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 2: and Omar and Hampton, and they bring in Najie Harris,

1646
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: and you see what they're doing. You see how they're

1647
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 2: trying to build this roster, and then in one move,

1648
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 2: Rayshawn Slater gets knocked out for the season. That's a

1649
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: crippling blow to this Chargers team. The one darkar horse

1650
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: in this division is a guy you know very well.

1651
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: That's Pete Carroll. With these Las Vegas Raiders, you know,

1652
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 2: they bring over Geno Smith, they draft Ashton Genty, which

1653
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: clearly Boise State needed. I don't know if you saw

1654
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: them getting the doors break off of them and the

1655
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 2: USF But how much is the addition of Pete Carroll

1656
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: to that franchise is gonna change the winning ways in

1657
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: Las Vegas.

1658
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna have a tremendous impact. I think

1659
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: he takes them to a winning season for the first

1660
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: time in a long time. I think he takes them

1661
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: to at least them fighting for that seventh spot wildcard

1662
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: spot in his first year. And I know people are like, hey,

1663
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: it's boring, He's run the same things for years, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

1664
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 1: It also works. It also works. It's solid. You won't

1665
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: have the volatility. You won't expect a volatility with this.

1666
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: His scheme of sound. Guys know what to do, know

1667
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: where to be. They can play fast offensively, they'll run

1668
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 1: the ball. Geno will maximize these receivers. Obviously, Jacobe Myers

1669
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: wants more money. He'll have a chance with a quarterback,

1670
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 1: probably the best quarterback he's had in a long time,

1671
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: to have his best season to earn more money. Their

1672
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: best player, brought Bowers, will will be set up for

1673
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: another career year. Obviously, matchup nightmare. You saw that in

1674
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: the game against the San Francisco forty nine ers, where

1675
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: you know they just line them up and throw fade

1676
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: balls to them. If football is easy, when you can

1677
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: do that, I think Raiders fans should be excited. I

1678
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 1: think it'll be a fun, consistent brand of football. They'll

1679
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: be in every game. I'm sure there will rarely be

1680
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: a game they're they're out of where they're down double

1681
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: digits or more. That's not Pete Carroll style. I would

1682
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: expect them to be around eight to nine wins and

1683
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: have a chance in the AFC East. There's not a

1684
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 1: lot of tough to talk about. There's the Buffalo Bills,

1685
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: reigning MVP, Josh Allen and everybody else, and everybody else

1686
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: in the Pips. I think Mike brabel will have the

1687
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: Patriots more competitive in these games. Will Drake may take

1688
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: the next step forward? Will they You know, their identity

1689
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: is obviously gonna be toughness. He's working for more of

1690
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: the Bill Belichick style of dealing with the media. It

1691
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: seems like he's pretty tough on him. They just let

1692
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: let Real Peppers go, which was a surprising move on

1693
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: a lot of fronts. But I think they'll win eight

1694
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:41,799
Speaker 1: nine games. I just don't see this division being anything

1695
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:45,919
Speaker 1: but the Buffalo Bill's winning by multiple games. The Dolphins

1696
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: have a lot of question marks. You're talking about Tarreek

1697
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: and two of the conversations, Tyreek saying he wants to

1698
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: be somewhere else at the end of the season to

1699
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: what's saying they need to regain his trust. Just things happening.

1700
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,959
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey taking shots on the way out about respecting

1701
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: his head coach and not respecting his head coach is

1702
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 1: just things not going great for them. The Jets with

1703
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, you know, they'll be tough, They'll they'll play

1704
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 1: Manda Man in the back end. What does Justin Fields

1705
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: give them? Is this his chance to have his sam

1706
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Donold moment where he revializes his career and takes it

1707
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 1: to the next level. Who knows, we'll see his Baker

1708
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,759
Speaker 1: Mayfield moment where he just hey, he takes the reins

1709
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: and he looks like the guy that they drafted coming

1710
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. We will see. Those are the

1711
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: question marks.

1712
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talent there though. Richard Garrett Wilson,

1713
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 2: the big question I have for you is it pertains

1714
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 2: to Aaron Glenn and his tenure with the New York Jets.

1715
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: Is he's tried to change, you know, the way people

1716
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,799
Speaker 2: look at the Jets. He's not dealing with the media anymore.

1717
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 2: You want to talk about some Bill Belichick esque play,

1718
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't even talk to the media. What are your

1719
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,799
Speaker 2: thoughts on that approach, because it seems like the Jets

1720
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 2: really need an identity reset and I think Aaron Glenn

1721
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 2: is trying to deliver that for him.

1722
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I don't know, because none of

1723
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: that matters until the on the field product shows it

1724
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: Like that works if you win. If you don't win,

1725
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: then you just ostracize the media. They're gonna be pissed,

1726
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 1: they're gonna talk even worse about you, and it's gonna

1727
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: make your tenure even shorter. So it could work out

1728
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: great if you're winning and people are like, yeah, he's

1729
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: all business cool, perfect, But if you're not winning, you're

1730
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to answer questions, you're gonna have to talk

1731
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: to the media, and they're going to write worse things

1732
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: about you because they're human beings and they're like, hey,

1733
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: he's being he's being addict to us. We're gonna be

1734
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: a dic to him, and that's just human nature. The

1735
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: team's not winning, I'm sure those writers in Boston couldn't

1736
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: wait to write things right Bill Belichi, bad things about

1737
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick when they were losing, and things, you know,

1738
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: we're falling a park after Tom left, like because you

1739
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: have been that way to him. These are humans, that's

1740
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. But if if they win, it's gonna

1741
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: go great. It's gonna be a different culture in New

1742
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: York and the team will follow suit.

1743
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the AFC North. There's a lot of

1744
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 2: storylines here. Vegas likes the Ravens to win it, you know,

1745
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 2: and in fact, they're a super Bowl favorite this year.

1746
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens are. They're followed closely here behind by

1747
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously Aaron Rodgers enters the fold there

1748
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: the Bengals. I mean, can this team finally reach their potential?

1749
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 2: It seems like every year we talk about how good

1750
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is, how Jamar Chase is playing. But they

1751
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: got off to a slow start last year, they got

1752
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 2: off to a slow start the year before that, and

1753
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 2: they've just been trying to play catch up. Like, who's

1754
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 2: your biggest competitor to the Ravens. Do the Bengals have

1755
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 2: an opportunity here to regrain the stronghold and potentially make

1756
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: another run at a Super Bowl appearance.

1757
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: Well, they'll be their greatest competitor in a head to

1758
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: ahead game. I think they you know, they've already proven

1759
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: that they can score on this defense and they can

1760
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: keep up. But the Bengals problem is that they're thirty

1761
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: for thirty This I got thirty for thirty ESPN because

1762
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna average thirty points to a game on offense

1763
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: and they're gonna give up thirty points a game on defense.

1764
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: That's been the story, that's been their Achilles heel. So

1765
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that Joe Burrow had one of the

1766
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: best seasons of any quarterback in the National Football League

1767
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: because your defense is so bad it ends up being

1768
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 1: a nine to eight season and you got two of

1769
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the National Football League, it doesn't

1770
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: matter because you got one of the worst defenses in

1771
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 1: the league. And unless they can change that narrative and

1772
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: their defense can give them any semblance of putting up

1773
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: a fight, they're gonna have a hard time. They're gonna

1774
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,560
Speaker 1: have a hard time winning this division or being competitive

1775
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 1: because of that. They're literally negating all the greatness that

1776
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: they have on offense with how terrible their defense is.

1777
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: So if obviously signing Trey Hendrickson is a big deal

1778
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: because he's their best player. They're gonna have to find

1779
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: a way to to get some stops on defense in

1780
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: order for me to put them in there. Vegas has

1781
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 1: them nine and a half wins. I could agree with

1782
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 1: that if they could just get some stops. Well, you

1783
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: think the Ravens win this division.

1784
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: You talked about Trey Hendrickson, and he was a storyline

1785
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 2: in this division a lot of it. And the way

1786
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 2: they did not want to pay him, they made it

1787
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 2: abundantly clear. And even when they did pay him, they

1788
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 2: just said, hey, here's an extra fourteen million dollars. We're

1789
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 2: going to bring you up to thirty million dollars for

1790
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 2: the year. We're not going to give you any long

1791
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 2: term security that he was after. Like you've already talked

1792
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 2: about this ad nauseum for the last three, four or

1793
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 2: five years. How poorly managed the Cincinnati Bengals are. They

1794
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 2: don't want to pay any of their players. That remind

1795
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: us a lot of the Dallas Cowboys, Richard, this is

1796
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 2: the best defensive player they've got. The Bengals have finished

1797
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 2: twenty fifth on defense last year season, bottom half of

1798
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 2: the league. For the fast past five years that Burrow

1799
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 2: has been in the league, Like, why do you do

1800
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 2: this to one of your best players that needs to

1801
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 2: help the most on the defensive side of the ball.

1802
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. It's insanity, I mean,

1803
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: but it's the same insanity that goes to making Jamar

1804
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: Chase play on his last year of his deal and

1805
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: then you have to pay him forty million dollars instead

1806
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 1: of just paying him the thirty five million that Justin

1807
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 1: Jefferson he wanted. I think he said he wanted one

1808
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 1: hundred thousand more than Justin Jefferson got. That's all he

1809
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: wanted was to say I wanted I got more than

1810
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. They end up paying him five million dollars

1811
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: more per year than what Justin Jefferson got because they

1812
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: wanted to stupidly wait for him to see. Well, I

1813
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: don't know what you were seeing. He's already a great receiver.

1814
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: You were seeing if he got injured or something, and

1815
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: it would be cheaper for you to pay him later.

1816
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: Ended up biting you an ass. And I think the

1817
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: same thing is true with Trey Henderson. They gave him

1818
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: more money or something moved some of his money, and

1819
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: I think gave him thirty million dollars this year, which

1820
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: is fine, but you also wasted time with your first

1821
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: round draft pick, Sjamar Stewart, and that was a stupid

1822
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 1: decision because you want him to get acclimated to the

1823
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 1: NFL game and to have all the time to be

1824
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: prepared to have the most impactful rookie season he can.

1825
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 1: But instead you're fighting over a minimal language in the

1826
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: contract and almost to the point where he goes back

1827
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: to college, and that, again, that's just not what you want,

1828
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 1: especially a guy you just drafted to change, help change,

1829
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 1: help Trey Hendrickson. So two of the most important guys

1830
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: on your defense you're pissing off. So hopefully they get

1831
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: that fixed, and Shamar Stewart is in, Trey Hendricks' is in,

1832
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 1: and maybe those two helped them solidify this defense that's

1833
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: been in the bottom half of the league for four

1834
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: of Joe burrows five years. Can the Steelers be something

1835
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,719
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers it's a question mark.

1836
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 2: Can they be something worthwhile? Because right now they're just

1837
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 2: seeing more of a storyline. I mean this, this is

1838
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 2: we talked about tipping points. Mike Toimeland's one of the

1839
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 2: best coaches in the NFL, but I think I would

1840
01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 2: have to imagine just making the playoffs is not good

1841
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 2: enough anymore. Of the Pittsburgh Steelers fan base and their

1842
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 2: ownership group, What does the addition of Aaron Rodgers really

1843
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 2: do to tip the scales more in that favor? Because

1844
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 2: to me, it seemed like Pittsburgh Steelers waited too long.

1845
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 2: They waited too long to address the quarterback. They drafted

1846
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,839
Speaker 2: Will Howard in the draft, and then they started waiting around.

1847
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: Why didn't they just resign Russell Wilson? Why didn't they

1848
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 2: re sign Justin Fields. I mean, this is a guy

1849
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 2: that was four and two before bringing back Russell last year. Instead,

1850
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 2: they turned to Aaron Rodgers, who was a bigger name

1851
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 2: in my opinion than he is a differentiator in the

1852
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 2: wing column. Do you think the Steelers can get above

1853
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: five hundred? Do you think they can get back to

1854
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs with Aaron Rodgers at the helm?

1855
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I don't know how Aaron Rodgers

1856
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: is going to play. You know, I think the last

1857
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: two years, one of them he was injured for most

1858
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: of the year. Are injured four plays into the season?

1859
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 3: Yep.

1860
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: The next year he was a erratic and not great

1861
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: not great by any stretch to imagine. So can he

1862
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,480
Speaker 1: get back to the Aaron Rodgers that won four MVPs?

1863
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think he can get

1864
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: to that ceiling anymore. But can he even get close

1865
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: to's just Pro Bowl caliber? The guy that can throw

1866
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: for three hundred be really efficient, you know, the guy

1867
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:23,440
Speaker 1: that rarely throws interceptions, that has twenty five touchdowns four interceptions?

1868
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Can he throw thirty touchdowns? What can Dk Metcalf do?

1869
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 1: They did a lot this offseason. I mean, they brought

1870
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: in Darius Slay, friend of the program. They traded for

1871
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. Cam Hayward's upset about the money because he

1872
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: sees everybody else getting their money and he's like, where's mine.

1873
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: They traded away George Pickens to the Dallas Cowboys, So

1874
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 1: how do you replace that production is DK? Because you can't.

1875
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: They're gonna double Dk Metcalf. So a lot of it

1876
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: is on Aaron Rodgers shoulders. Can he get back to

1877
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 1: the guy that we all know him to beat, which

1878
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: is one of the best quarterbacks to ever grace the

1879
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: football field. That's the big question, and I think that's

1880
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 1: what they're banking on. The reason why they didn't sign

1881
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson or Justin Fields because they felt like they

1882
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 1: saw their ceilings. They know what their ceilings are, and

1883
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 1: their ceilings aren't aren't able to get them to a

1884
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: super Bowl or even in those conversations. So can Aaron

1885
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers be better? I don't. I don't know. We don't know.

1886
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 1: We'll see. If he plays like he did last year,

1887
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that's high enough to get to Sam,

1888
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean the Pittsburgh Steelers where they want to be.

1889
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see. It's gonna be an interesting

1890
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 1: storyline or it's gonna be something to talk about. But

1891
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: if he if he doesn't play well early, it's it's

1892
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna know early, and they don't have anywhere to pivot,

1893
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna go to Will Howard in the

1894
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: middle of the season with Aaron Rodgers think, oh man,

1895
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: that's our future. Now, no, you're not. And then the

1896
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: questions about Mike Tomlan going forward, coming coming to play,

1897
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 1: do you make a change there again, like you're saying

1898
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: he's he's never had a losing season and he went

1899
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: won ten games last year and he'll find a way

1900
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: to win ten games this year, But do you get

1901
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: frustrated with that, Like the Seattle Seahawks deal with Pete

1902
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Carroll and you say, Okay, that's enough, Like we want

1903
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 1: to go a different direction. The Pittsburgh Steelers organization hasn't

1904
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 1: been one to make moves like that in their history.

1905
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 1: A lot of their coaches stay for a long time

1906
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: and coach there for a long time regardless. So I

1907
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: just don't know. I don't see them making a move.

1908
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 1: But I also if Aaron Rodgers doesn't play well, this

1909
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: season could go bad really fast. But you have a

1910
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 1: dynamic secondary with Joey Porter Jr. Darius slay In, Jalen Ramsey.

1911
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: You have a great pass us with JJ I mean TJ. Watt,

1912
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: cam Heyward, Alex high Smith. You have the pieces there

1913
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 1: to make a run, but they're gonna have to put

1914
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: it all together.

1915
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: And finally, the AFC South, this looks again like the

1916
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 2: Houston Texans division to lose. Vegas likes them a lot

1917
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 2: plus one five to win the division. Do you like

1918
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 2: the Texans? I mean, this is CJ. Stroud's third year

1919
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 2: in the league. We saw a lot of regression in

1920
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 2: his sophomore season. Do you think he gets back to

1921
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 2: his rookie ways and his winning ways.

1922
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he does. I think he does. I

1923
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: like the addition of Mick Chubb to that team. Obviously,

1924
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: with Joe Mixon miss in the first four games of

1925
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: the season, a healthy Nicocollins, I think he's a top

1926
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 1: five receiver in the National Football League if he's healthy

1927
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: and he's doing what he needs to do. But again,

1928
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 1: health is a big factor in it. They got rid

1929
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: of Laramie Tunsel. That's a I'm not sure how I

1930
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: feel about that or how that will play out in

1931
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: the long run. They still have a great pass rush

1932
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: with Danil Hunter and Will Anderson. Derek Stingley is honestly

1933
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: one of the top couple of corners of the National

1934
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:50,799
Speaker 1: Football League. Unfortunate stuff happening with Jimmy Wards, so there's

1935
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, but you still got Petrie back there, and

1936
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: you know they have enough talent. They They're in a

1937
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 1: weak division with the Colts. It seems like they're giving

1938
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: up on Anthony Richardson in starting Daniel Jones. You know,

1939
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't speak great volumes about what you could expect

1940
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: from them, But maybe Daniel Jones turns it around. Uh

1941
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 1: and has a great season. They have great weapons and

1942
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: and guys that can make plays down the field. Jacksonville

1943
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: Jaguars drafted Travis Hunter to play both sides. That'll be

1944
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 1: the storyline of the season for that team, just seeing

1945
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: what he does. But Brian Thomas already developing into one

1946
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 1: of the top receivers in the National Football League. What

1947
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: can he do? And and obviously, you know how I

1948
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:40,560
Speaker 1: feel about the quarterback in Jacksonville and Rich I love him.

1949
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 1: What's not to love. He's the best. But if he

1950
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 1: doesn't have if they don't win the win this year

1951
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: and he doesn't go to the playoffs, what did the

1952
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: conversations start to become about the quarterback? And what does

1953
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: that look like moving forward? The Titans cam Ward, what

1954
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 1: is he going to be able to do with that team?

1955
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Obviously he's showing flat during the preseason. But he's one

1956
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 1: of the most the least talked about number one picks

1957
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: in the history of the National Football League. You almost

1958
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 1: you almost talk about him like he's a third round

1959
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 1: draft pick, Like, oh yeah, yeah, they got cam Ward

1960
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft, But I don't

1961
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: think they have a tough talent around him to to

1962
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: really make a ton of noise this season. I think

1963
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 1: they surprise some people and and and win some games

1964
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. I think he's gonna be up for Rookie

1965
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: of the Year with his performances just because he's the

1966
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,719
Speaker 1: quarterback and he'll he'll put up stats and he'll start

1967
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: from day one, but not a lot, not a lot

1968
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: of things.

1969
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw two names at you because I know

1970
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 2: we got some folks that filed fantasy football. Here two

1971
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:39,759
Speaker 2: names for you guys to keep an eye on. Jalen

1972
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 2: Higgins for the Houston Taxans. He's a rookie out of

1973
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 2: Iowa State. Look Out for him. He's gonna fill He's

1974
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 2: a big receiver opposite of Nico Collins. You saw what

1975
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 2: Tank Dell was able to do there and that wide

1976
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 2: re tiver re stiver two spot. Jalen Higgins, look out

1977
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 2: for him. And then I know one of your Stanford

1978
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 2: a lumb And I'm gonna butcher his name here, Richards,

1979
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 2: help me out. Elk Ao Minor is that correct? Alimaynor

1980
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 2: Eleck Alimaanor from the Tennessee Titans has been getting a

1981
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: lot of love throughout training camp. Cam Ward is in

1982
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 2: desperate search for who's gonna be the wide receiver to

1983
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 2: throw to. Look out for both of those guys this division.

1984
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 2: While the Tennessee the Houston Texans are expected to walk

1985
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 2: away with it. It could be interesting, but that concludes

1986
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 2: our division recaps. I gotta ask you, though, man, this

1987
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 2: is our prediction time for you, Richard. We're gonna keep

1988
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 2: receipts going throughout the season. I gotta know who's gonna

1989
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 2: win the NFC, and who's gonna win the NFC, and finally,

1990
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,480
Speaker 2: who's your Super Bowl champ.

1991
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 1: NFC. You know I want to be Homer. I want

1992
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: to go with San Francisco or Seattle. I just don't

1993
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: know if this is their year this year, unless some

1994
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: drastic things happen or some young guys step up in

1995
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 1: a big way. I think the Philadelphia Eagles they're just

1996
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: too consistent, too talented on both sides of the offensive

1997
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 1: and defensive line. They have some some question marks in

1998
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 1: the secondary, but they also have Quinjon Mitchell had a

1999
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: phenomenal rookie season all the way down to the Super

2000
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 1: Bowl and played well in the playoffs. I think he

2001
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 1: continues to thrive. But I think the Philadelphia egos. It's

2002
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 1: hard to root against them inn NFC. I got them

2003
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: winning an NFC unless some drastic injury news happens to

2004
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: their major players. They still got Saquon Barkley, AJ Brown,

2005
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, et cetera, et cetera. The list goes on

2006
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson. So I just don't see a path where

2007
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 1: they they're just knocked off unless major injuries happen in

2008
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 1: some critical spots. AFC wise, it's boring to to say this,

2009
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: and it's hard to go against the Kansas City Chiefs.

2010
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: I want to I want to say Baltimore is gonna

2011
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 1: win it. I want to say the Buffalo Bill's got

2012
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 1: a chance. I want to say the Bengals are gonna

2013
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: make one of them crazy runs like they did. But

2014
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,080
Speaker 1: it's difficult for me to go against the canon The

2015
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 1: City Chiefs because even when they have a down year

2016
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 1: like they did last year and the year before, where

2017
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: you're like Patrick Mahomes came back down to Earth, they're

2018
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 1: still in the Super Bowl. You're like, oh, they don't

2019
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 1: got home field advantage, they're gonna struggle, and they're still

2020
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. You're like, man, they're beat up

2021
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs and they're still in the Super Bowl. Man,

2022
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 1: they had to move. They're all Pro guard left guard

2023
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 1: to tackle, and they're still in the Super Bowl. So

2024
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time rooting against them. They

2025
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 1: still have Spags running that defense, they have a secondary

2026
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: and guys back there making plays. They still have Chris Jones,

2027
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 1: they still have Nick Bolton. It's just hard to bet

2028
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 1: against them right now. So I got the Kansas City

2029
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles, I.

2030
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 3: Guess, And who's taking home the crown?

2031
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: I would if it goes the way it did last year,

2032
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: I would say the Philadelphia Eagles go back to back.

2033
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 2: Richard, I got the Lions playing the Bills lines coming

2034
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 2: away victorious. I know that's not going to surprise you

2035
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 2: one bit. Let's talk about our MVP candidates. Last year,

2036
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 2: Josh Allen ended up winning it over Lamar Jackson. I

2037
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 2: know you weren't necessarily thrilled with that. But who do

2038
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 2: you think is going to take home the hardware this year?

2039
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 1: I think Joe Burrow will be in the mix. I

2040
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 1: want to say, I want to say he would win it.

2041
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 1: I honestly think he had a better case than Josh Hallen.

2042
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: Last year, I thought Lamar had a way better case,

2043
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 1: one of the most efficient seasons in the history of

2044
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: the National Football League. He had one of those Aaron

2045
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers s MVP seasons but with a lot more touchdowns,

2046
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: but he didn't win it. I think it was what

2047
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: is he forty five and four something crazy like that,

2048
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 1: Like he was silly known as silly numbers, and they

2049
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 1: didn't give it to him. So I just color me.

2050
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: I hate the people they have voting for it because

2051
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're voting based objectively. You know, it's

2052
01:48:56,120 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 1: too much emotions, too much subjectivity, getting involved, too many feelings. Oh,

2053
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 1: Lamar won so many, it's josh is Stern, Like, I

2054
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 1: don't care about that. Who had the better season? Who's

2055
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 1: more valuable? You're gonna say you punish Lamar Jackson for

2056
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 1: having Derrick Henry, but he threw for forty one touchdowns,

2057
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 1: there's only four interceptions, Like, how how do you punish

2058
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: him for that? That's valuable? That those numbers are valued,

2059
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 1: And so I think it's Joe Burrow. But I think

2060
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: the same issue that he had last year is the

2061
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 1: issue who'll have this year is his team isn't good

2062
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 1: enough to give him what he needs. His team isn't

2063
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: gonna be good enough. Last year he threw for almost

2064
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: five thousand yards, forty three touchdowns, nine interceptions, one hundred

2065
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: and eight rating, but his team, his defense was too

2066
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: terrible and he didn't They didn't win every shootout that

2067
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 1: they were involved in. So ah, we're not gonna give

2068
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: it to I would love something, would love to say

2069
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 1: Bron Perdy would do it, But.

2070
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 3: What about Sam Donald?

2071
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Sam Donald could definitely I mean, if

2072
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: they if they win thirteen games. He definitely did in

2073
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: a mix. But again, he wasn't MVP candidate last year,

2074
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: and he had a phenomenal year and took his team

2075
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: to fourteen and three. So I'm saying, if they're not

2076
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 1: putting him in the MVP race when they were fourteen

2077
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: and three, I don't. I don't think you're gonna give

2078
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: it to Anthem on now him being in Seattle. Give

2079
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: me Joe Burrow.

2080
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 3: I like that one as well.

2081
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:34,719
Speaker 2: And finally, before we wrap, we gotta know who starts

2082
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 2: off Week one preseason addition, going into Week one, Richard

2083
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 2: Sherman's Top five power Ranks.

2084
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 1: Top five power Ranks National Football League we're gonna go

2085
01:50:48,560 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles won, Baltimore two, Bill's three, Kansas City four

2086
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 1: or Detroit five.

2087
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I respect it, well, Richard. That concludes it. Man,

2088
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 2: this is our regular season preview. It's been a long one,

2089
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 2: but a good one, and I'll let you sign us off.

2090
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 3: My friend.

2091
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you guys. Sorry it's been so long,

2092
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: but it's the season preview. We have to get every

2093
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 1: division in here. We appreciate you joining us. You could

2094
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us,

2095
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,840
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2096
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:33,800
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2097
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 1: and of course after game content with me and my

2098
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: guy Mitchell. Also big play Slave, See you next time.