1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: What's Up Everybody? DJ Buck Back with you, Buck. 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: I was debating on this because we both listened to 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of podcasts. I think that I'm the only 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: one left who introduces the people at the top of 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: the podcast. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: Do I need to start? 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Do I need to just say hey, what's up? And 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: then get started? I mean, I just kind of after 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: how many years have we've been doing this. We've been 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: doing this for over a decade, and I realized I 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: think I'm the only person. I think they know if 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: they're listening to Move the Sticks, who we are, what 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: we're doing. 15 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's such a hang that, like you kind 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: of feel compelled that maybe we have new listeners. Maybe 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: this is the first time that someone is listening in 18 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: and we're trying to keep them so they know who 19 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: the voices are, Like, Hey, okay, this name goes with 20 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: this voice, et cetera, et cetera. 21 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: If you're watching on video, do you just make sure? Yeah? 22 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: I mean I think you still should probably just like 23 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: from a. 24 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Prose, I just say, hey, what's up. We're back with 25 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: you Buck, what's going on? 26 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 3: Then? 27 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: They immediately know next voice is Bucky the previous. 28 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: One maybe, Yeah, I mean it's it's it's tagged. 29 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: I mean we can look, we can experiment with a 30 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: couple of different openings and just got to see what 31 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: the people like. 32 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe get some feedback on on Twitter on that, 33 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: let us know. If I just feel like I'm the 34 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: only one left, I'm like, what am I doing? I 35 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: gotta stop doing this Today. We've got a we got 36 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: a fun one. We're gonna go through some of the 37 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: shakeup that's t happening around the league over the weekend. 38 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: What a fun weekend with the NFL news breaking and 39 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: then latest mock draft which I posted on social that 40 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I was debating chaos and buck that's the route that 41 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: I went. So we'll get into the mock draft in 42 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: just a moment. But hey, Fields thoughts. 43 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: Uh DJ, I'm I'm gonna say this, and you know, here, 44 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: here's the thing. Right before we even talked about the 45 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: Fields thing, and maybe I'm two into social media, everything 46 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: has become either love. 47 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Or oh yeah, there's no middle ground, no nuances. 48 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: There's there's no middle ground, there's no nuance, there's no 49 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: I would say, maybe be an understanding of why this 50 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: move could be what it is for me, I would 51 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: say from the Pittsburgh Still a side man, it doesn't 52 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 3: get any better than this. You give up a conditional 53 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: six round pick in twenty twenty five to get a 54 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: first round talent. Regardless of what we think about him 55 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: as a player, he's regarded as a first round talent. 56 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: Ron Wolf used to say, if someone is Al Davis, 57 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: you say this. 58 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: If someone is. 59 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: Drafted in the first round, you or it to the 60 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: organization to kick the tires, because maybe a change of scenery, 61 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: a new coaching staff, a new voice can unlock the 62 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: talent that pretty much everyone would universally say was worthy 63 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: of being in the first round. For him to go 64 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh at the costs to be able to put 65 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: him in a situation where he sits behind Russell Wilson. 66 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: If you're the Pittsburgh Still, this is a year to 67 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: see and imagine what he could be, What could he 68 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: be as maybe the heir apparent to Russell Wilson. 69 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: There. 70 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: If you like it, then you find a way to 71 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: continue on with it. If you don't, it doesn't cost 72 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: you anything. But the piss Burg Steelers had been able 73 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: to do. And I think we've talked about this. They've 74 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: been able to stock file their quarterback room with similar 75 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: athletes with similar games. Their offense never has to change 76 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: depending on if QB one is in or QB two 77 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: is in. From a system standpoint, I believe this is 78 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: the perfect system, not only for Russell Wilson, but for 79 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: justin fields. 80 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: One that is ground dependent. 81 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna run the football, We're gonna play action, we 82 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: have playmakers on the perimeter where we push it down 83 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: the field. 84 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: And then we're gonna lean on that defense. 85 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: I would say for both of those guys, pitchcount needs 86 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: to be thirty five or fewer if we're playing the 87 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: style of game that we want to play, thirty five 88 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: or fewer pass attempts. To me, for the Steelers, it's 89 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: a nice move because it has the potential to solve 90 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: an issue down the line every day we're going to 91 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: have to address in the draft anyway, once they determined 92 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: that Kenny Pikett wasn't their guy. 93 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it from the Steelers side of things. 94 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: To me, I think let's look at it through Russell 95 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: Wilson's lens. I think it's a great combination where he 96 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: has a team that believes in him. Right, they wanted him, 97 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: they named him the starter, they brought him in, They're 98 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna let him be himself. So you've got the confidence 99 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: of knowing they do believe in me. They brought me 100 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: here for a reason, right, So you've got that. But 101 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: I also have somebody pushing me, you know. Hey, that 102 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: being said, I know that I'm their guy. I know 103 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: they want me to take this thing and run with 104 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: it this year. But I got to be ready to go. 105 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: I got to show up in shape. I got to 106 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: show up ready to roll. I'm trying to resurrect my legacy, 107 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: and now I got to fend off a young first 108 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: round pick behind me. I think there's motivation there in 109 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: a lot of different forms for Russell Wilson to show 110 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: up and be ready to roll. I think that's a 111 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: good thing from that standpoint from Pittsburgh. And I know 112 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: I think a cowherder. Somebody had said, you know, if 113 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm Justin Fields, I would have wanted to go somewhere 114 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: with more of an offensive identity to help me out, 115 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't agree with that. I think 116 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Justin Field's the style in which he plays. He's three 117 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: years in the league. He is to some degree established 118 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: is what he is, and he fits his game fits 119 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: better with a run game and a defensive minded coach 120 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: and then let him go make plays. I don't think, 121 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, like the Shanahan's Like Shanahan experimented, he drafted 122 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, and he was like, I'm going to change 123 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: what I do. And then he said, why I've been 124 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: successful doing it this one way. Why am I trying 125 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: to do it a different way. I just get a 126 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: point guard back there and we'll just pitch it all 127 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: over the yard. I don't think Field's going to one 128 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: of those guys would have been the right move. 129 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: So I think, and I might I stole this from 130 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: you because we had this conversation. We talked about what 131 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: has always won in Pittsburgh, going all the way back 132 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: to yesteryear with being Roethlisberger whatever. It has always been defense, 133 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: running game, quarterback magic. Now the magic that we talk 134 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: about going back to Ben Roethlisberger, that magic was extending plays, 135 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: making things happen out of the structure of the offense. 136 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: It was only when Ben Roethlisberger became an older player 137 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: and lost some of the athleticism did he become more 138 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: of an on time rhythm player. But the recipe for 139 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: the Steelers from wayback has been defense, run. 140 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: Game, quarterback, matchic Well, Russell Wilson. 141 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: Quarterback magic, thirty nine game winning drives, thirty one fourth 142 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: quarter comebacks. The magic for Russell Wilson is if the 143 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: game is in hanging in the balance in the last 144 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: two minutes, Russell Wilson knows knows how to close out 145 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: the deal. The magic for Justin Fields is the improvisational 146 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: stuff that he brings, the run stuff. Say what you 147 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: want about Justin Fields, and this is why I can't 148 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: say that he's a bus You don't rush for twenty 149 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: two almost twenty three hundred yards, have a thousand yard 150 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: rushing season and consider that quarterback to be a throwaway. Yes, 151 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: it's a passing league, but we have seen teams win 152 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: where a quarterback can run. Look no further than the 153 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: rival the Baltimore Ravens when Lamar Jackson jumped in as 154 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: the quarterback and ran the Ravens into the postseason. So 155 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: there's a blueprint that the Pittsburgh Stellers can follow. If 156 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: Justin Filds has limitations in the passing eight that you 157 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: can't correct. He can run it during his prime to 158 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: help them. So for me, it makes perfect sense because 159 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: it fits the identity of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 160 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: It works. 161 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: And the last thing I will say that two things. One, 162 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: When Justin Fields was interviewed shortly after being drafted by 163 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears, they asked him, who did you pad 164 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: in your game after? He said, When I was a 165 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: younger player, I used to patter my game after Cam Newton. 166 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: As I gotten older, I think my game falls in 167 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: line with Russell Wilson ding Dong. So every day I 168 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: now get to bring a quarterback who gets a chance 169 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: to look at his muse. He gets to look at 170 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: the guy that he wants to be, And the biggest 171 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: knocks that people will have on Russell Wilson will be this. 172 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: People like, oh, his personality, this and that or whatever. 173 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: DJ then not many guys that throw twenty six touchdowns 174 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: and have eight interceptions. His production last year was better 175 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: than the room that the Pittsburgh Steelers had. So if 176 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: Justin Filds gets an opportunity to learn behind Russell Wilson, 177 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: where A how can I manage the game? How can 178 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: I take care of the ball. How can I insert 179 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: my athleticism when needed? He's going to be a much 180 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: better player down the line. That's why I agree with it. 181 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: And then finally, Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin has shown that 182 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: he can take different personalities at the quarterback position and 183 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: work with him. Ben Rother's different than Mason Rudolph, who's 184 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: different than Joshua Dobbs, who's different than Kenny Pickett. 185 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: He's worked with all those guys. 186 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: He has a unique ability to allow guys to be 187 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: themselves while playing within the framework of the team. 188 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: I think it's good for him. 189 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: And so from the Pittsburgh vantage point, man, this is 190 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: look man, this is. 191 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: Low risk, high reward if it works out for the Bears. 192 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: It's a little different because not what everyone on the 193 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 3: outside thought that they would get, and maybe those expectations 194 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: were lofty, but once the quarterback market kind of crystallized, 195 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: when Mac Jones, the first round pick, goes for a 196 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: six rounder, you know you're not getting much. We'll talk 197 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: about Trey Lance whatever a. You can't compare similar deals 198 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 3: because it's different. Mag Jones going for mag Jones going 199 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: for a six round pick. That to me kind of 200 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: set the stage for what Justin Fields was eventually going 201 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: to go for. 202 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Trey Lance got traded a year before, so 203 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: there's more years before you get to a fifth year 204 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: option decision, which means he has more value that fifth 205 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: year option. What happened, what killed him? And I should 206 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: have done a better job of explaining this and seeing 207 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: this coming, and that the Sam Donald wasn't wasn't the 208 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: wasn't the north star for the compensation. That was the 209 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: warning sign for the compensation. Sam Donald got you a 210 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: two to four and a six. They immediately had to 211 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: pick up his fifth year option. It blew up and 212 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the teams around the league looked at 213 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: that and said, I'm not going to trade for a 214 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: quarterback where I have to make a decision on his 215 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: fifth year option site unseen without him being in my 216 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: building and commit what is a very large number to 217 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: someone like that who hasn't worked out in their previous place. 218 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm not giving you that much compensation. That's too much 219 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: risk for me to take on. This is more than 220 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: likely going to be a one year rental. The fifth 221 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: year options not going to be picked up, which leads 222 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: me to the other point. Of this, Well, there's a 223 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: lot of layers to it. From the Chicago side of things, 224 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: this was the market. They should have got more, they didn't. Okay, 225 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: this is what the market was. This is what it is. 226 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: They had no option here. They had to get this done. 227 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: And people say, well, if you held him, if you 228 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: held him and then got into training camp and someone 229 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: got hurt, maybe the pick would be better. At the 230 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: end of the day, he would still be on a 231 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: one year contract, a team would not have a fifth 232 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: year option. What is the ceiling for that your starter 233 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: goes down? First of all, a lot of these teams 234 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: had options to go get him as their backup right 235 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: now and didn't want to do it. So if you're 236 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: talking about what is the value increase, Okay, you went 237 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: from a six, it turns into a four. I would 238 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: say the ceiling would be a three. So maybe if 239 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: you held on to him till training camp, you upgrade 240 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: from a fourth round pick to a third round pick. 241 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: And what was the cost of that. The cost is 242 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: that you made Caleb Williams walk into a chaotic environment 243 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: where you have a potentially have a split locker room 244 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: as he enters into the NFL. When the whole organization's 245 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: future hinges on that one guy. That is not a 246 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: smart business move. 247 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: You do not do that. 248 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: You roll out the red carpet and you can see 249 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: it by what they've done. DeAndre Swift, come on in, 250 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, come on in, Gerald Everett. I believe it 251 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: signed him as well. We're going to load this thing 252 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: up and we're going to see that Caleb Williams gets 253 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: off to a great start. We are going to clear 254 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: the brush for him. We're not going to have any 255 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: distractions that that would be, in my opinion, would be 256 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: idiotic and malpractice as a general manager if you had 257 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Justin Fields on the roster when you bring Caleb Williams 258 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: into the building. 259 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: So though that completely makes sense from a business standpoint, like, hey, 260 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: I want to set it up. I want to make 261 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: sure that my quarterback Kaleer Williams has the best opportunity 262 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: to succeed. The other part of this is DJ as 263 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: much as we want to make this about the business 264 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: and about like a winning to trade and everyone believes 265 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 3: that the league is transactional, it's really transformational be us. 266 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,239 Speaker 2: It's a relationship business. 267 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: Justin Fields did a lot of good stuff in Chicago 268 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: for that staff, for the general manager, the president of 269 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: universally lost in the building and because of what he did, 270 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: because look, he had to deal with the slings and 271 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: arrows the entire year. 272 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: People speculated are you going to be here or not? 273 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: And I would say he was a consummate professional in 274 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: terms of how you handle it, the performance that he 275 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: put on the field, what he was able to do, 276 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: all those things. 277 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: He ingratiated himself to the locker room. 278 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: Listen to how his teammates like just revere him as 279 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: a player and as a dude. When you have that 280 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: DJ sometimes you take the l on the trade to 281 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: do right by that, because it's not only how you 282 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: treat justin fields, it's how the locker room looks at 283 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: how you treated him. Because they treated him with class 284 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: and dignity and respect, allowing him to go to a 285 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: situation that's best for him, the rest of the locker 286 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: room can be like, hey, we may or may not disagree, 287 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: but man, Ryan Poles did right by him. I can 288 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: get down with that kind of like relationship. I'm okay 289 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: with that. That matters more than the other stuff. So yeah, 290 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: you might have lost around value or whatever, but I 291 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: think what they did is they did right by Fields, 292 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: and they did right by the locker room, and I 293 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 3: think it pays it forward. 294 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: As this team continues to make moves. 295 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 3: Maybe they become a more attractive spot just because of 296 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 3: the way that they treated Justin Fields. 297 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: You brought up a great point, and I want to 298 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: make sure that that doesn't get confused with what I'm 299 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: saying on this Fields did everything right. And because he 300 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: did everything right, he's beloved in that building, which means 301 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: he has sponsors, he has people that want him to 302 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: be the guy because they love the guy, they respect 303 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: his work ethic, they respect what he's endured there. I'm 304 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: not putting any of that on Fields. I'm saying, as 305 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: a team builder, you don't want a divided group. You 306 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: don't want loyalties divided. And by doing this now, as 307 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: opposed to you could say, well we could at least 308 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: take it to the draft. Okay, well, now you're going 309 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: to give this team one week to get it out 310 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: of their minds that Justin Field is not our guy. 311 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: And now this new guy, I have one week to 312 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: get my mind there. You want more runway than that man, 313 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: You do this now, and the guys. You even see 314 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: some of the tweets like, hey, business is business. You 315 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: know we love them. Now you have the whole time, 316 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: I can, I can now, I'm coomfortable with the fact 317 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: of who this is. There's been time, cooling off period 318 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: or what have you. And you're happy for Justin he 319 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: and now but we have our new guy coming in 320 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: and it's one hundred percent of us are going to 321 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: be behind the new guy because we've had all this 322 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: time to get. 323 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: Used to it. 324 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: DJ that's such an important thing. And look, Ryan Poe's 325 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: dealt with it head on by making a move. Now 326 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: we have a look a moff over a mouth to 327 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: talk about it. We can get comfortable the guys that 328 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: are coming into the building and able to start off 329 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: season workouts. Everyone knows, Okay, look, we know Justin's not here. 330 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: Is lockers clean, We don't have to deal with that. 331 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: We know someone's coming in. It gives the team and 332 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: opportunities do we get excited about the possibility of what 333 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams could bring and it makes sense everyone is 334 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: comfortable in those and and now that that business is done, 335 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: it is about looking for It's about building team to 336 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: make sure that Kayler Williams is comfortable. The next line 337 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: of business, they have to figure out who is going 338 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: to be the right backup quarterback for them? Is it 339 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: whoever you already have on the roster? Do you need 340 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: to bring somebody in to me? That's what it's about. 341 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: Who is going to be if you're let to go 342 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: this route, who's going to be the mentor or who's 343 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: going to be the nice guy to assist Kayler Williams 344 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: in his development as he gets ready to be a 345 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: rookie starter. 346 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 347 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: No, it's a good point and something to keep an 348 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: eye on. All right, we want heavy on that because 349 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: it was huge news and no question. We mentioned Keenan 350 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Allen that trade taking place as well to help support 351 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: what we assume will be Kayleb Williams there with the 352 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: number one overall pick the Jets. They signed Tyrant Smith, 353 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: which is going to get us to an interesting, uh 354 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: interesting move in my mock draft. I'll just tease it 355 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: like that. Let's take a quick break, we'll come back 356 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: and we'll jump into that mock right after this. All right, Buck, 357 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: I told you at the top, I debated of whether 358 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: just to kind of go chalky. I normally don't do 359 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: trades and mock drafts till the very end. 360 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: But but what fun is that? 361 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: What fun is that, Let's go, Let's go for the chaos, 362 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: Let's begin the conversation. 363 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: Let's have some of these things. 364 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: Because as much as we've gotten comfortable seeing the I 365 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: would say, the chalk mock draft where everyone puts the 366 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: same through you guys at the top of the board, 367 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: they go in the same order, and those things, we 368 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: don't know if that's how teams really feel. So let's 369 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: let's switch it up a little bit. 370 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I decided to have a little fun here, So 371 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: we started off Caleb Williams first, the Chicago Bears. Not 372 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: a surprise there. If you've listened to the early part 373 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: of the podcast, you know what we're thinking there. Drake 374 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: May to Washington again. I keep saying, Drake May or 375 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels here to me. The trade of Sam Howell 376 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: actually pointed me more in the direction of Drake May. 377 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: So that's the dots that I'm connecting. They're like best ends. 378 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: It would have been awkward to have both those guys 379 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: in the room together competing for that job, so I 380 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: took it as I took it as that as a 381 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: sign of Drake, not as a sign of Jaden. Maybe 382 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: that's flawed logic, but that's how I looked at it. 383 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: No, I just think they went to see golf together 384 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 3: somewhere on a private jet like Drake and Stann Powell. 385 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: That absolutely would have been weird. It had been like 386 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: going in reverse. So I can see that that makes sense. 387 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: So there I've got at the three quarterbacks, Caleb Williams, Drake, 388 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: made Jayden Daniels. Now the Minnesota Vikings make that trade 389 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: to get an extra first round pick. 390 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: Why did they do that? Right? 391 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean you could say, well, they want to just 392 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: sit at eleven and take a quarterback and whoever falls, 393 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: and then twenty three maybe they get another starter. Maybe 394 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: that twenty three, maybe they're going to trade that for 395 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: the corner from Kansas City. You know, maybe that's for sneed. 396 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: To me, it looks like a trade up for a quarterback, 397 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: and I think they're going to effort. I think they're 398 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: going to try like crazy. I think the connection with 399 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: them and Drake may we've referenced it on here before. 400 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: There are many and that makes a lot of sense. 401 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that they can get there for the 402 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: first three picks. So if they can't get there, you're like, well, 403 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to sit here at eleven and get 404 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: the fifth quarterback. I want at least guaranteed that I 405 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: get my fourth quarterback. So I had them trading. I 406 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: had them going from eleven to four, which was a 407 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: swap of some picks. Let me give you what that 408 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: look like here, because I actually put in the uh 409 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: two numbers. 410 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: Look at you doing the research, like you're not doing 411 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: regular this thing. You're not even doing regular mock stuff. 412 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: You're not just making it up, like I don't know 413 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: whatever it takes to get there. But yeah, we just 414 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: go move Minnesota four. 415 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: So this is what it was. You're Arizona. Arizona gives 416 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: up pick four, pick ninety and one thirty eight. So 417 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: four ninety one thirty eight. I think that's what like 418 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: a three in a what a five or something? And 419 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: then they get back eleven and twenty three. That's what 420 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: the chart says. So now Arizona you're left. Remember they 421 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: still have picked twenty seven, So they now have picked eleven, 422 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: twenty three, and twenty seven for a team and a 423 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: rebuild obviously would have looked great to have Marvin Harrison there. 424 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: They could easily stick and pick. We've done that a 425 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: bunch of these mock but why not let's have some fun. 426 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: They make the trade. Minnesota comes up and takes JJ 427 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: McCarthy with the fourth pick. Buck ooh DJ quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, 428 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks. 429 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you've upset the alpa Quarte a little 430 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: bit because we've talked about these quarterbacks and it's always 431 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: been the big three, but now you're putting JJ McCarthy 432 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: in with the big four. It coincides with Lance Z 433 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: going on Twitter yesterday and absolutely telling people that, hey, 434 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: you better get comfortable JJ McCarthy being mentioned with these 435 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: guys because he might be in the top three when in. 436 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Love in the streets, there's a lot of streets for 437 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. 438 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: And so JJ McCarthy gets into the conversation. Now we 439 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: have four quarterbacks come. 440 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: Off off the board right away. That would make for 441 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: great TV. 442 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: And look, it's reasonable to expect that because the need 443 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: at quarterback this year is so much different than in 444 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: previous years. These teams that we're talking about the top 445 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: of the board, I mean they almost need to drop 446 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 3: the quarter just to be able to put the ball 447 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: down and play when it comes to Week. 448 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: One, no doubt. Now we get crazy. So we've had 449 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: one trade and then I just got in a crazy 450 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: mood and said, you know what, let's go back to 451 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: back trades. This will anger Charger fans. I call the games. 452 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: I understand what they want. I appreciate what they want, 453 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: and I could even say I want the same thing. 454 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: I would love for them to be sitting here with 455 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: the fifth pick. The top four picks are all quarterbacks. 456 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: You've got your choice of whiteouts to replace Keenan Allen 457 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: and Mike Williams that have just left. You could sit 458 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: right here and take Marvin Harrison Junior and you've got 459 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: a number one dude. And I can get on board 460 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: with that. However, I look at how Jim Harbaugh thinks 461 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: and how he believes in building a football team, and 462 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: you build the foundation before you build anything else. And 463 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: all we've heard from Greg Roman getting hired, from Jim 464 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's press conference, from Joe Ortiz's comments, we are going 465 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: to protect Justin Herbert and we are going to run 466 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: the football much better than it's been run here. So 467 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: with that being said, you see a couple the wideouts 468 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: go out the door. I look at this draft as 469 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: very deep at wide receiver, so I think they can 470 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: be saying, man, we would love to have Marvin Harrison 471 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: junior here, but there are a lot of whiteouts in 472 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: this draft, and we're going to build the foundation first. 473 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: And the phone just rang and it's Joe Ortiz, one 474 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: of his best friends and Joe Douglas from the New 475 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: York Jets, work together for twenty years, and he's all in. 476 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has signed thirty three year old Tyron Smith 477 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: Morgan Moses older tackle. On the other side, they went 478 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: out and got John Simpson to play guard. Now you 479 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: can say, maybe this is a house of cards with 480 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: the age of these offensive linemen, but this is a 481 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: forty year old quarterback. They are all in to win 482 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: one in the next two years, so why not be bold? 483 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: And do you think that they would have any issues 484 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: parting with next year's second round pick, which would be 485 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: the cost. So you go from ten to five as 486 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: the Jets, you trade next year's second round pick. They 487 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: don't have a second round pick this year because that 488 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: was Rogers Steele, and the Jets go up and they 489 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: pair their wide receiver Garrett Wilson with his former teammate 490 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: and Marvin Harrison Junior with the fifth pick. 491 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: Okay, we don't have sound effects on the pot, but 492 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: that would be like how it works, everything going off. 493 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: Here's why it would be a sensible move for the 494 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: New York Jests. If you're Roberts Sola and Joe Douglas, 495 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 3: you know this is it. I don't really care about 496 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: what happened this year. I'm gonna go call pushing in. 497 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: We got all the older guys on the offensive line. 498 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm hanging on a forty year old quarterback in Aaron Rodgers. 499 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: If I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna go out with 500 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: guns of blazing. Let's see if we can just put 501 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: it together. Because if I bring in a young offensive tackle, 502 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: there's no guarantee that he's going to play at a 503 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: high level. 504 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: We take Tymern Smith. 505 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: Let's get another playmaker to go opposite Garrett Wilson so 506 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: they can't contend consistently double team Garrett Wilson, and let's 507 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: see if we can just light up the score Wark defensively. 508 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: We're good and they're good. They're good offensively. We gotta 509 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 3: be able to manufacture it. And so if I am 510 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 3: Joe Douglas, I don't care because after this year, I'm 511 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: gonna have to reset it anyway. Just given the age 512 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: of my best players, I might as well go all 513 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: out see if I can put together the best offense 514 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: to give us a chance to get to the postseason. 515 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: So you'd have Breese Hall in the backfield, you'd have 516 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, you'd have Marvin Harrison Junior. You're cooking with 517 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: gas a little bit in terms of the the athleticism 518 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: of your skilled dudes. 519 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: And if you can stay healthy enough up front, just 520 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: up front, if they can just look just keeping forrches 521 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: in front of Aaron Brods and allow him just to 522 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: deal from the pocket, you know he'll make the offense. 523 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: Right, He's done it for years in Green Bay. 524 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: You give him to playmakers Wilson and Harrison, they'll find 525 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: a way to score points, all right. 526 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: So there's the shock and awe portion of the draft. 527 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: I'll pick up the speed here the giants who I 528 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: could see, you know, they could be in a position 529 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: to get up to four, which would be a better 530 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: could be a better landing spot there if you're the Cardinals, 531 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: because you don't only have to go back to six. 532 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: So I would keep an eye on that. But this one, 533 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: I have him staying there, taking Elik Neighbors, who I 534 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: posted the other posted the other day that I thought 535 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: he could end up being the first wide out taking 536 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me. I've talked to a couple of 537 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: teams and they're you know, they're sky high on Malik Neighbors. 538 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: Rightfully so because of how explosive he is. I have 539 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Joe Alt the tackle going to the Tennessee Titans. Big 540 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: need there. The Atlanta Falcons, they've taken care of the 541 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: offense with Kirk Cousins and some of their additions on 542 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Dallas Turner makes a lot 543 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: of sense there. Chicago, how about this one. I've got 544 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: them going Kayleb Williams at one. We know all the 545 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: players they've brought in. You've got DJ Moore, you've got 546 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. But Buck, how many times have we seen 547 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: it in history when you put your you know what's 548 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: on the line and you make a bold decision at quarterback, 549 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: which we can say how old it was. They moved 550 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: on from justin fields. They've committed to Kayleb Williams. They've 551 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: built this thing up and you can say, Okay, the defense, 552 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: we could use an addresser, but you know what, why 553 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: not just go get one more? Dude? I want to 554 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: ensure that this rookie quarterback plays well. And Romadonza's stearing 555 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: me right in the face. How about that trio of 556 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: wide outs for him to throw to. 557 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: Okay, it's great, It wouldn't be unprecedented because I think 558 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 3: about the Cincinnati bing was and what they were able 559 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: to do around Joe Burrow, Jamar. 560 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: Chase on the boyd T. 561 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 3: Higgins, three big time playmakers to allow Joe Burrow to 562 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 3: do what he does best, which is playing fast break basketball. 563 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: And Kaylen Williams. 564 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: You have a similar player in terms of how they 565 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: want to play, not stylistically, but how. 566 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: They want to play. 567 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: You want to put the ball in the hands of 568 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 3: Kavia Williams. You don't want him to be the guy 569 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: that's handing it off all the time. You want to 570 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: throw it and the only way that you're gonna be 571 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: able to throw it effectively is you got to have 572 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: guys that can win one on ones. That trio that 573 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: you talk about trotting out with the Bears with rome 574 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 3: A Duneese joining Ken and Allen DJ Moore, good luck 575 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: trying to figure out who's going to double team and 576 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: who's gonna leave isolate. 577 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: And those are all the other thing about those three guys, 578 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: they're all incredibly smart players, so very smart. They've got 579 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: outstanding hands. So you talk about having dependability reliability around 580 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: a young quarterback, I think that would be a fun 581 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: trifecta there for the Chicago Bears and then the Chargers 582 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: go back to ten again. The fans will be upset. 583 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: But Talisi Fuaga, that feels like a foundational piece to me, 584 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: and he would be you know, you could slot him 585 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: in at right guard year one. He kicks out to 586 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: right tackle, then you know that's his position. He's a 587 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: right tackle. But you've got your tackle set now, I 588 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: would imagine, especially with some of the savings that they 589 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: had with the keenan Allen thing, I believe I'm pretty 590 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: sure that Slaters do for an extension like you can 591 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: do that deal now, so I would imagine that's coming 592 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: before too long. You could have your bookend set up 593 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: for Justin Herbert for the next decade with those two guys, 594 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: and that feels more like, Hey, we can we can 595 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: build this strength up. We're gonna be able to run 596 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: the ball. We're gonna protect Justin and wide receivers. Hey, 597 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: we know we need him. But there's a lot more 598 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: picks in this draft. And I've also added a second 599 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: rounder next year, which if the Jets for some reason imploded, 600 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: might be a pretty good pick. 601 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: For anyone who is wondering why the Charges wouldn't add 602 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: more firepower around Justin Herbert. Just remember Jim Harboughead Andrew 603 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: Luck at his best, and what did they do with 604 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 3: the football that stand. They ran the ball and allowed 605 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: the game to be very easy for Andrew Luck. He 606 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: is going to take a similar path with Justin Herbert. 607 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: Just because you have a franchise caliber, any league caliber quarterback, 608 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you wanted to at forty times a game. 609 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: It is about bouncing out making the game easy for 610 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, so his effectiveness and efficiency goes up. That's 611 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: why an offensive tackle at this point makes a lot 612 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: of sense for the Charge. 613 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: I would also remind people too that I know he 614 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: missed some time last year, but Josh Palmer is a 615 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: really good player, and he's another one I would think 616 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: they would probably have a chance to get extended here 617 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: with some of the newfound money they have there. All Right, 618 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: so there's a top ten. Shook it up a little bit. 619 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Now we get I'll go a little faster here. As 620 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: we go through a pick eleven, I've got the Arizona Cardinals. 621 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: After trading down from four, they get Jared Verse address 622 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: that defensive front. That's why I went that direction. The 623 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. I went brock Bowers here, and I know 624 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: that's not a big need for them. They have guys, 625 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: they have some solid tight ends, Greg Dolcic being a 626 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: young one that's talented. 627 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 2: There. 628 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: The reason I went with that Buck is I thought 629 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: about the playbook in the offense run by Sean Payton. 630 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: Think about the offense running through Michael Thomas in the slot. 631 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: Think about all the balls he was able to catch, 632 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: the matchups they're able to find. Brock Bowers has a 633 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: te next to his name, But I'm running the exact 634 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: same plays as I ran with Mike Thomas, and I'm 635 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: running them with Brock Bauers split out in the slot 636 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: right there. 637 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if den Broncos are really compromised when it 638 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: comes to the money due to the Russell Wilson situation. 639 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: They may have to play differently. They may have to 640 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: line up in twelve personnel. They don't have the White 641 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: House to be able to do all the stuff that 642 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: he used to do in New Orleans. It may give 643 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: them a different way to play, to allow Jared Stinham 644 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: to play really well, maybe a little more conservative, a 645 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: little more I would say, maybe old school. 646 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: You can put rock powers in the backfield and pitch 647 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: it to him if you want to as well. I 648 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: mean you can use them as it. I mean, you 649 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: lose them, that lead blocker in the backfield, you can 650 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: do a lot of creative stuff with that dude. 651 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a big time player, man, He's one 652 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: of the best players. We talked about him being a 653 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: top five player in this draft. We're just basing on 654 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 3: talent and potential. He's worthy of being in that conversation. 655 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: If he goes to the Broncos at twelve is a 656 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: great value for them, and it gives Sean Payton a 657 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: lot of flexibility in terms of how he wants to 658 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: set up his offense. 659 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: All right, Pick thirteen. Here we go, the Raiders select 660 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix Junior. I don't feel like the Gardner Minshew 661 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: move as a long term one buck. I feel like 662 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: that is a cover. I think gives you a little 663 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: draft cover there. If you want to take a quarterback, 664 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: you don't have people trying to jump in front of 665 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: you because you've got Aidan O'Connell, you've got Gardner Minshew. 666 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: You paid a decent amount of money too. Maybe they're 667 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: not a quarterback team. Maybe we don't need to get 668 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: in front of the Raiders if we want a guy 669 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: and then bam, here they go Michael Pennix. 670 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: Oh right now, you upset the apple cart. 671 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: You've upset to alple card because no one has talked 672 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: about Michael Pennis. We've gone the last month without people 673 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: talking about Michael Pennix in a Raiders' uniform. Here's where 674 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: it works, and you have to understand the history of 675 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: the Raiders. The Raiders are a run heavy, push the 676 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: ball down the field team, going all the way back 677 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: to the great days of the late Al Davis. 678 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: They want to run it, they want to throw it 679 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: over the top of the defense. DJ. I think you 680 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: would agree with me. 681 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a better deep ball throw 682 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: in this draft than Michael Pennis. 683 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: When you watch the Washington. 684 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: Huskies play all year, it was bombs away and if 685 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: he is protected, he can spend it like the best 686 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: of them. The issue that you have with the four 687 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: season in season ending injuries and he doesn't necessarily have 688 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: the mobility of the athleticism of the other guys. But 689 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: if they build a forces in front of there are 690 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: few guys that can attack by Michael Pennis cam from 691 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: the pocket. 692 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what That was a fun one to me. 693 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be a fun fit. I also 694 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: let me pull up the numbers here. I was gonna 695 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: pull this one up. Let's see, Well, he had he 696 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: had a conference championship game there right, which was against Oregon, 697 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: and he was a thirty four to thirty one win. 698 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: He threw for three hundred and nineteen yards, completed sixty 699 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: nine percent of his passes. Not a bad day there. 700 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: So he has a little experience playing that building. Maybe 701 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: Mark Davis was there to watch that and took it 702 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: in and enjoyed it. But that was a fun one there. 703 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Now we keep it rolling here. Olo Faishanu. Look, it 704 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: hasn't worked out for Penning at left tackle for the Saints. 705 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: They need to get one of Fashanu, who is a 706 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: true left tackle. Quinyon Mitchell. He is the first corner 707 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: to go off the board here to the Colts, Troy 708 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Fatanu the Seattle Seahawks, which, by the way, I think 709 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: there's teams that look at him and say he could 710 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: be a center. He's played left, he's played left tackle, 711 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: played it well, he's got really long arms. He would 712 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: slot in at guard for Seattle. But keep an eye 713 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: on him maybe as somebody that could end up being 714 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: a center eventually. Terran Arnold to your Jags, go ahead. 715 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive cording it also knows him well. 716 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: Remember yeah, Grab came over from there. 717 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: Grub cames over, knows them well. So that certainly can 718 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: ask some value to. 719 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: It, no question, Terryan Arnold to your Jags. They get 720 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: someone who can play any of the spots there in 721 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: the secondary. You get JC Latham, big tackle to the Bengals. 722 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: Leatu Latu to the Rams. Again, I don't know. I 723 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: haven't heard yet on the medicals with him how he 724 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: came through the combine. But a legitimate pass rusher there 725 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: on the edge. Everybody I think is going to see 726 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald left and they're going to think, okay, they 727 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: go defensive tackle here. Remember Kobe Turner played really well 728 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: for them last year as a rookie, was in the 729 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: mix for the Rookie of the Year, so they're okay. Inside, 730 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: I think get another edge rusher would be big Pittsburgh 731 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: at twenty again, you make the quarterback decisions. I think 732 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: this is a pick to help the quarterback. You bookend 733 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Geiton here with last year's first round pick and 734 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: Broderick Jones. 735 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: So look really interesting. The Pittsburgh still is going to 736 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: get another tackle. You see what Broderick Jones was able 737 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: to do. And remember they took it slow with Broderick 738 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: Jones in terms of putting him in the lineup, but 739 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: he certainly helped them. They getting back to running the football. 740 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: Guidan is an intriguing athlete. Raw a little bit, but 741 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: he has a lot of potential. And then going back 742 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: to your rams, big a lot two coming off the edge, 743 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: the rams are gonna have to be able to generate 744 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: pass rush and a different thing before you just so 745 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: dependent on Aaron Donald to kind of set it up. 746 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: But remember you talk about their young guys Stephanie and 747 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: Bryan Young. Steppanen also being a player. Having someone opposite 748 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: him should help them be able to get after. 749 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: I had no doubt. Graham Barton to the Dolphins can play. 750 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: Really any of the five spots on that offensive line 751 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: would fill one of those interior spots. The Eagles need 752 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: a corner. Nate Wiggins. It was a little bit polarizing, 753 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: but man, he's again four to two speed. He's really 754 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: a good cover guy. You know, we've talked about him before. 755 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: I just want to see him be a little more 756 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: urgent when it comes to playing the run. Brian Thomas 757 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Junior to the Cardinals. I'm gonna rip for these next 758 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: few picks. I want to go back to the Cardinals. 759 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: Jackson Powers Johnson a big center to the Cowboys. Think 760 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: about Frederick back in the day picked in this area 761 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: of the first round, which was a big hit for 762 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys for all those years. Marius Mims a big 763 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: tackle to Green Bay. Darius Robinson a very athletic, versatile 764 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. He goes to the Bucks, and then Byron Murphy, 765 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: a DT goes to the Cardinals. So the Cardinals traded 766 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: out of four, they got eleven and twenty three. They 767 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: owned twenty seven already, so they come out of the 768 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: first round. Mind you, Buck, you've got a defensive head coach, right, 769 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: So you've got a defensive head coach who had to 770 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: watch a very talent deprived group last year. And now 771 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: you get to watch this and say, Okay, I've got 772 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Jared Verse coming off the edge. I've got Byron Murphy 773 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: lining up next to him. I've arguably the best interior 774 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: rusher and the best outside rusher in the draft class. 775 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: I've added to my mix, and at the cost of 776 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: giving up Marvin Harrison Junior at four. But in a 777 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 1: deep wide receiver draft, I got Brian Thomas Junior, who 778 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: is dynamic and explosive at twenty three. 779 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of more gifted pass catchers in the draft. Look, 780 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: we've seen this. 781 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: Look, it hasn't been a lock that the number one 782 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: receiver in the last couple of drafts has been the guy. Like, 783 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: who's to say that Brian Thomas can give you like 784 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 3: significant production. But you talk about rebuilding this defense. Manti 785 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: Austen for being able to get Jared Verse and Brian 786 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: Murphy to upgrade a defense that has to compete against 787 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: some stellar teams in the NFC West. 788 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: I kind of like the moves, Yeah, no doubt. So 789 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: there's what we have there. Going to the Cardinals, we 790 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: finish up the mock draft. I've got Johnny Newton going 791 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: to the Bills. I've got kool Aid and McKinstry the 792 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: corner going to the Lions. I've got Cooper dejene going 793 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: to the Ravens. What a Ravens pick, right, A really talented, 794 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: versatile player. 795 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: Love Iowa players, look. 796 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: And they always have. Yeah, think about Linderbaum, you go 797 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: all the way back to Marshall Yonda. They've had a 798 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: They've had. 799 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: A nice ge Geno Stone, Geno Stones another one. 800 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 2: I mean, they've had a lot of successful Iowa guys. 801 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: I've got the Niners that it can chop Robinson edge rusher, 802 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: and I know, look, I know they brought in Floyd, 803 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: but again you roll them through there with Chris Caserk, 804 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: you get another rusher to throw into the mix. And 805 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: I've got Casey uh taking ad Ni Mitchell, who I think, 806 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: talent wise, is as talented as anybody in this entire class. 807 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, super talented playmaker the Ken City Chiefs. Obviously you 808 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 3: want to upgrade the wide receiver Gord. They let mvs go. 809 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: They bring in Hollywood Brown, they want to continue to 810 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: add around it. 811 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 2: You have Rashi Rice coming back. 812 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 3: But Ady Mitchell is look man, he's a freak show, 813 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: big time playmaker. Soft hands does a lot of good things, 814 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: particularly after the catch. You can see where stylistically he 815 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: blends in with what they're trying to do on the perimeter. 816 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 2: Like that pick. 817 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: You know you mixed it up a little bit. You 818 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 3: threw some trays in, which is not your style. We've 819 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: got some name, but let's be honest, DJ. These mock 820 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 3: drafts are supposed to be conversation starters. It's about looking 821 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: at the draft in a different dimension. It's not just hey, 822 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 3: let's pick and do these things. Let's play a little 823 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 3: chess with it. Can you make a move at the 824 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: top that allows you to do things at the bottom. 825 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: Look at what you did with the Cardinals, Look at 826 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 3: the moves that you made with some of the other things. 827 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 3: When it came to the Jets and the charge of swapping. 828 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: It's a conversation starter. I can't wait for it to 829 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 3: hit the Twitter streets because the buzz, the buzz will 830 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 3: be out there for sure. 831 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way mentions off, that's the. 832 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: Look. 833 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: It's fun. I saw somebody, somebody replied when I said 834 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: that I was going to choose chaos, They said that 835 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: it was gonna I was going to risk my credibility 836 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: with a mock draft not being realistic. I wanted so 837 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: bad to write them back. Go hey, Poul, Like, no 838 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: mock draft ever written is realistic. Okay, No, we don't 839 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: know what all thirty two teams are going to do. 840 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: Nobody on this planet knows. People in those buildings don't 841 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: know what they're going to do at this point in time. 842 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: It's about trying to logically find scenarios that could exist, 843 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: in exploring those and having those conversations. That's what mock 844 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: drafts are for, and that's why they do. Is like 845 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: that this is clickbait. I'm like, dude, I could put 846 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: I could put the names of thirty two farm animals 847 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: in a mock draft and it would get clicks. You 848 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: don't need to do anything for clickbait. With mock drafts, 849 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: they are going to get attention. They're going to get 850 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: clicks no matter who you put in those, so that's 851 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: not the purpose. The purpose is to just explore different 852 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: scenarios and then have a discussion based off of those scenarios. 853 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: Now, it's fun, that's what these things are supposed before, 854 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 3: and as we continue to get into it, a lot 855 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 3: of what we talk about would be mock drafts. But 856 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 3: as you said it, I've said what you really think 857 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 3: about a player top fifty, what I think about a 858 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 3: player top five list, and things that we do when 859 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: we break down scout reports. These things are fun exercise, 860 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: but they're not realistic because no one is privy to 861 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 3: what all thirty two boards are like. These are what 862 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 3: we're trying to project based on what we know about 863 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 3: the people picking the players and what the teams have 864 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 3: traditionally done given their preferences for certain types of players 865 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 3: in the past. 866 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: No doubt. All Right, Well, there you go. That's it. 867 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: That's the show for today. I hope you guys have 868 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. We'll be back another episode this week. We 869 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: will have Caleb Williams pro Day on the way, so 870 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: I have a chance to break that down for you 871 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: as we get later into the week. Until then, I 872 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: hope you guys have a wonderful time, wonderful week stay safe, 873 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: enjoyed the NCAA tournament. As it's coming up, we'll see 874 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: what that looks like. Tar Hills, Buck. We feel confident 875 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: we get a one seed there. 876 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a one seed. But man, who knows? Man? 877 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 3: The tournament is the most unpredictable thing that you can find. 878 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: The pressure is different when it becomes a single elimination tournament. 879 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: Hopefully mytariis can just get through the first weekend and 880 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to play the second. 881 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: There you go. 882 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: We'll be on the lookout for the Tar Hills for Bucky. 883 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: See how those guys do as well. All right, we'll 884 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: see you next time right here on movie sticks. M