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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about

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Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. A.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I am still just riding so high

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Speaker 1: from our first ever I Choose Me Live event. The

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Speaker 1: day was so awesome. It was filled with so many

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Speaker 1: incredible conversations and now guess what, I Am going to

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Speaker 1: share them with you here on the podcast, so it

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Speaker 1: will be like you were there with us. Today, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about our conversation on menopause, a topic

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Speaker 1: none of us should be afraid to talk about. On

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Speaker 1: this panel, we have the OSCAR nominated actress and author

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Speaker 1: of Dare I Say It? Naomi Watts, author and producer

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Speaker 1: of the documentary The M Factor Shredding the Silence on Menopause,

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Speaker 1: Tamson Fidal, and President of the UCLA Health Faculty Practice Group,

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Speaker 1: doctor Eve Glacier. But before we get into that incredible

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Speaker 1: panel I Choose to talk about menopause, I want to

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Speaker 1: thank some of our sponsors, Real Quick, UCLA Health, leaders

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Speaker 1: in Exceptional Healthcare, and my lovely friend Laura Geller of

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now let's dive into the panel.

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Speaker 3: So our next panel.

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Speaker 4: Is just another set of incredible powerhouse women. Truly, these

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Speaker 4: women have not even paused for a moment in their

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Speaker 4: go get them careers, because right now what they are

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Speaker 4: doing is some incredible work all about menopause, to release

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Speaker 4: the stigma surrounding menopause. And so, if you'll please help me,

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Speaker 4: welcome our next panel. I choose to talk about menopause.

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Speaker 4: So whoo yeah, right, I know we need this, we

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Speaker 4: need this. So starting with the first one on our panel,

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Speaker 4: Academy Award nominated actress, entrepreneur and author of the.

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Speaker 4: You Gotta get It if you don't have It called

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Speaker 4: Dare I say it? Everything I wish I'd known about menopause,

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Speaker 4: Naomi Watts.

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Speaker 5: Good, all right.

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Speaker 4: And next the president of the UCLA Health Faculty Practice Group,

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Speaker 4: Doctor E.

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Speaker 6: Beaser O, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you a hob.

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Speaker 4: Incredible documentary The M Factor, Shredding the Silence on Menopause.

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Speaker 4: Tamson Final Tamson, Who I Love beautiful? Welcome, Welcome, ladies,

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Speaker 4: this is a conversation that is so necessary. I'm sad

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Speaker 4: I have to listen to it backstage, but I will

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Speaker 4: be there with all of you, and I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, ladies for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is it, This is the moment. Menopause is

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Speaker 1: coming out, and so it's about time, right, we've lived

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Speaker 1: in this sort of secrecy. My mom never talked about

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Speaker 1: menopause to me. I don't think maybe you have the

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Speaker 1: same experience. But now my kids just know what it is.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. They're ready for it. I mean not.

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Speaker 1: Ready for it, but they know it's a part of life.

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Speaker 1: We're all going to go through it, so why not

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Speaker 1: talk about it? And you are using your platform in

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Speaker 1: such a beautiful way. We've all loved you and your

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Speaker 2: Why hi, everyone?

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Speaker 7: Basically because I was thirty six and trying to get pregnant.

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Speaker 7: the blood results suggested that I was quote unquote close

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Speaker 7: out of the office in pieces. And to your point

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Speaker 7: That she said that she was forty five and it

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Speaker 7: So I was like, why didn't you tell me more

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Speaker 2: So done with it?

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Speaker 1: Why do you think it is that now is the

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Speaker 2: Doctor Eve Glacier, So happier here.

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Speaker 3: I mean now should have been yesterday, as we all know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think thanks to you know, amazing platforms,

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Speaker 3: And I think we've waiting for this for a long time.

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Speaker 3: This also has amazing ramifications for clinical research, for amazing books,

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Speaker 2: It's Hamson, You've done something.

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Speaker 1: You created the first ever documentary about menopause. What a

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Speaker 1: trave laser guys, I mean, tell us why you decided

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, we kept having the conversation among ourselves.

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Speaker 8: And I was a journalist for thirty years and the

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Speaker 8: And I've listened to these stories over and over again

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Speaker 8: And I thought, we got to start putting this together.

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Speaker 8: And we set out to do that, and we got

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and we said, well, we're going to do it ourselves.

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Speaker 8: So we set out and we said, all right, we'll try,

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Speaker 8: And then PBS said, you know what, we're going to

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Speaker 6: And so that's where it started. But I have to say, it's.

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Speaker 8: Really been the women that have taken this and made

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Speaker 1: Yes, doctor Eve, I'm so happy to have you here.

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Speaker 3: Think, first and foremost women are coming in and they're

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Speaker 3: saying that they feel lonely. And I'm sure that you

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Speaker 3: feel reassured that what they're going through is normal, right,

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Speaker 3: and that have been having that expectation. But at the

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that I don't know, I feel

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Speaker 1: like there's a whole resurgence of the feminine, divine energy,

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Speaker 1: thank God, But do you think that the things that

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Speaker 7: Your girlfriends were talking about it all the time.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's amazing how once that door was opened

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Speaker 2: And it makes total sense.

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Speaker 7: We have come together as women at every point in

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Speaker 7: That was left off the chain of storytelling or story

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Speaker 7: it's been opened up, it's created and ease, and I

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Speaker 2: You know, have you found that speech? H Janson?

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Speaker 8: I was going to say that, I think it's become

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Speaker 8: Every time my husband goes Are you bringing it up

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Speaker 8: Why do we talk about this all the time when

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Speaker 6: Because they want to be able to share this with somebody.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we should have the menopost parties.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that we should have our own menopause party.

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Speaker 3: Well, in to Naomi's point too, I mean, we would

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Speaker 3: never separate puberty right from being a woman, so why

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Speaker 3: that continuum of being a woman, you know, thinking about

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Speaker 3: is really important. We should be celebrating it all along.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about research and access to funding.

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Speaker 2: For that research.

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Speaker 1: Things are starting to change, things are starting to go

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Speaker 8: You know, we definitely have a long way to go,

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Speaker 8: nothing derails that.

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Speaker 8: I always go to doctor Lisa Mosconi, the neuroscientists that

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Speaker 8: So that's exciting to me. I think, you know where

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Speaker 6: To do hormone therapy.

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Speaker 1: It's so much different now when we're talking about things

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Speaker 2: What about hot flashes?

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Speaker 7: I didn't know that dry skin was menopause related. I

443
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 7: also ticked on, you know, every medical form I had

444
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 7: each time I started a new job.

445
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: As actors, we have to do.

446
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 7: That night sweats, night sweats, night sweat every single time

447
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 7: for years, and it went completely you.

448
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: Know, unnoticed.

449
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 7: They were like, oh, are you allergic to something, or

450
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 7: are you stressed or you know, use a fan? Yeah,

451
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 7: just yeah, and it was no one connected the dots.

452
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 7: So to your point about feeling like you're losing yourself,

453
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 7: the perimenopause stage, I would say is the worst part.

454
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 7: And then when you get to menopause, you feel yourself again.

455
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 7: You feel like you're getting yourself back because things are

456
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 7: stabilized because of these unpredictable shifts of hormones rising and falling.

457
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: And that is a good moment.

458
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 7: And I think that's when you're like, you really start sharing,

459
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 7: the community strengthens around you, and you're more willing.

460
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: To talk about it.

461
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 7: It's the isolation, and half the soul is being able

462
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 7: to talk, owning what it is that you're going through

463
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 7: and getting help because I think it comes.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's that age when we talked about it earlier,

465
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Speaker 1: when you start to feel invisible or disregarded by society

466
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: and then you have this roller coaster that's so kind

467
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: of gray for a lot of us, and then it

468
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: just further sends you into that sort of isolation and

469
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: pulling away from learning more and communicating more and sharing more.

470
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: So again, like what you women are doing to spread

471
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Speaker 1: awareness using your platforms, that is vi to everybody succeeding

472
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: in life, you know, And that is a new thing

473
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: that's developed recently, and I just think it's so wonderful

474
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: and if anybody doesn't like it, they can just go

475
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: somewhere else.

476
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: I love that part.

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Speaker 8: I will also say this, I think that we as

478
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 8: women have been afraid to age because of what society

479
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 8: has done, so this also comes at that time. Some

480
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 8: of the other symptoms like brain fog make you feel

481
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 8: like you just like can't keep up, and I think

482
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Speaker 8: that that causes a lot of fear. But to know

483
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 8: that there are solutions, to know that you're not alone

484
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 8: dealing with that, I think that that makes you feel

485
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 8: not so isolated because it is that isolation and in

486
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 8: fear of talking about it, I think that is really difficult.

487
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Speaker 6: It was difficult for me to overcome.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about brain fog. I have it all the time,

489
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: all the time. And for a long time I thought, Okay,

490
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: I have a bad memory to begin with, so that

491
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: maybe that's just what's happening. But then it was just

492
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: so obvious. It's not my memory. It's literally my brain

493
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: just goes flat. And I thought there was something wrong

494
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: with me. I thought that maybe I was going to

495
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: develop dementia. I thought I was like having early Alzheimer's

496
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: or Halfheimer's as I like to call it.

497
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: But what is the brain fog all about, doctor Eve?

498
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: I mean, they're still researching this, but a lot of

499
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: this is this amazing power of estrogen. And you know,

500
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Speaker 3: Tamson and Nami please chime in, but a lot of

501
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: it is the estrogen really affects the connectivity, you know,

502
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: really the synapses talking to each other in the brain.

503
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: It's very real. And you know, Nami, when you were

504
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 3: just saying about once you kind of go through it

505
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 3: and emerge. A lot of times people do notice that

506
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: the brain fog has dissipated once menopause has set in,

507
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: you know, so once the per menopause has completed.

508
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt so happy when my doctor told me

509
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: I was in the menopause and not in the perimenopause,

510
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: and I felt like, oh, thank god.

511
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: That's over. You've arrived.

512
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: It gets a lot better for anybody who's in perry.

513
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: Go right in there to the menopause. You'll you'll be

514
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: happy you did. And talk about it to your daughters.

515
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you have daughters. Who do you have You

516
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: don't have children, right, but you have a three and

517
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: you have a daughter and a son. Correct, what is

518
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: the conversation like for you? Because I'm curious too with

519
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: my three daughters, like.

520
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: How how are you?

521
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 7: I have a a little another little thing in the book.

522
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 7: When I started planning the book, and I also created

523
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 7: a company called Stripes.

524
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: Beauty, which.

525
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 7: Is about hydration from scalp to vent.

526
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we need hydration. Yes, we definitely need hydration.

527
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm wearing full Monty right now.

528
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: By the way. Yes, you guys got to try Stripes. Yeah,

529
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: this is amazing, so thank you. Yes. People love the fragrance.

530
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 7: So they heard me speaking about menopause ad nauseum for

531
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 7: years and I.

532
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: Thought, oh, I wonder what they know? You know? And

533
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: I say, I asked them both.

534
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 7: One of them said, isn't it when old ladies die?

535
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 7: I said, no, Okay, next, Oh, isn't it when you

536
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 7: wet the bed, mummy, Because clearly I'd had a night

537
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 7: sweat and you know, crept into bed and that was

538
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 7: that was that.

539
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: So it just goes to show you.

540
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 7: And I started saying, well, this is why the conversation

541
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 7: should come in the in the sex said in fifth

542
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 7: grade or sixth grade, whenever it is. This is the

543
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 7: beginning of a woman's hormonal journey. All these things can

544
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 7: happen in between, and then this is the book end

545
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 7: to that. But it's not the end. It's just a

546
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 7: different chapter. From there on. We're in a nice other

547
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 7: place that is very freeing, and it's quite yeah, liberating

548
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 7: to not have your hormones driving decisions.

549
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: I want to tell you you it's so true. I

550
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 1: thought I got a handle on things. Perrymenopause came in

551
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: with the emotional roller coaster, so that wasn't very fun.

552
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: But I want to.

553
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Talk to you about the sex because what so the

554
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: lobido drops during Perry or during full on menopause.

555
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: Does it get better? Is it going to get better?

556
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: I think everything is going to be messing for default

557
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: to optimism, But yes, the libido does drop and libido

558
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: drops for men as well, so irrespective of who your

559
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: of who your partner is. You know, Tamson, you alluded

560
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: to this too. I think just with aging, there's so

561
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: many negative connotations about aging and competition, about sex right

562
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: and being sexy. But this, to me, and anyway, this

563
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: is I think what you're talking about is, you know,

564
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: it's the lubrication, lubrication, lubrication, but also communication, communication, communication,

565
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: So yes, things drop, but they drop and they change

566
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: and they evolve. And again I think that's an ongoing conversation.

567
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: But yes, you know, biologically the estrogen drops, testosterone drops,

568
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: so that's definitely something we just see biologically with aging.

569
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 7: Did you guys read that New York Times article women

570
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 7: are having the best sex of course?

571
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, women are having the best sex win

572
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: at this stage.

573
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: In their lives and they're fifty like backstage.

574
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 7: How funny.

575
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: So it gets better, It does get better.

576
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, to your point, educate, communicate, lubricate.

577
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: Everything is, yes, possible.

578
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 7: You just got to get organized, You got to get

579
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 7: a handle on things.

580
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. And our children, our daughters, our sons, are they

581
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: see us thriving? I mean you what are your daughters

582
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: see they have to see you thriving.

583
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: They I mean, I can't speak for them, but they

584
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: are in awe of me, like because they, yeah, they

585
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: saw me growing up as this girl on TV, you know,

586
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: the it girl or whatever, and now they've seen me

587
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: through all my ups and all my downs. They've seen

588
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: me rise and fall. But they I've loved that they've

589
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: gotten to see all those parts of me, even the

590
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: parts that have been embarrassing and that I maybe wish

591
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: I hadn't showed them, But I am so glad that

592
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: I was very open and honest with them, so that

593
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: they know what is in store for them and they

594
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: know they can handle anything so important. Tamson, what do

595
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: you do to stay feeling sexy during menopause?

596
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 6: During menopause?

597
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 8: You know, I didn't feel sexy during Perry, that's for sure.

598
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 8: And I was just starting to date my now husband,

599
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 8: so I had all those ups and downs and roller

600
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 8: coasters and period they came out of nowhere and I'd

601
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 8: like run into a bathroom, So I didn't feel very sexy.

602
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: Then.

603
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 8: I feel like now I really do communicate and he's

604
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 8: heard more than he ever wants to hear about menopause

605
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 8: and everything in between but yeah, I'm really open and

606
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 8: honest about it. I have, you know, incorporated things, and

607
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 8: I think even surprise him sometimes.

608
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 6: And you know, I when I.

609
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: Take out loub He's like what what? Oh?

610
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: What?

611
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 8: So you know, I'm not shy about anything anymore. And

612
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 8: I think I used to be. I think I used

613
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 8: to communicate. I'd be like, you know what to do right,

614
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 8: like you know, anybody, any partner. And I think now

615
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 8: that I really do talk through it all. And I

616
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 8: also think my sexy though, or in my head anyway,

617
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 8: comes from feeling just more confident in who I am

618
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 8: now during this time and knowing what I will tolerate

619
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 8: and what I won't and what makes me really feel

620
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 8: good about myself inside. And I don't know, I wake

621
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 8: up every day right now really excited about the day

622
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 8: and the message and what we're doing.

623
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 6: So that kind of makes me feel sexy.

624
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: You should have really excited.

625
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: You should feel excited you're doing I'm going to be

626
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: a part of it to it.

627
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 2: Yes, you're doing a forum situation. Can you tell us

628
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: about it because it's going to be amazing.

629
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 8: Well, you're talking about a party, so I was till

630
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 8: it's about a pause party. I wanted to do something

631
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 8: to celebrate the women that came out for the documentary,

632
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 8: and I know March is a women's month. So we're

633
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 8: going to throw the world's Hottest Menopause Party on March

634
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 8: first in Vegas. It's free, Vegas, very virtually free. Yeah,

635
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 8: it's gonna be in Vegas and so but everyone can

636
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 8: come in. And we want to make sure women around

637
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 8: the world have access to the information for free, because

638
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 8: I think that's just super super important.

639
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 6: So that's what we're going to do March first.

640
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 8: We're gonna have a lot of experts there, a lot

641
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 8: of familiar faces there, and so I'm real excited about it.

642
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 8: I wanted a women to be able to celebrate this time,

643
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 8: not fear it. And everyone said, you're calling it a

644
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 8: menopause party, and I said, yeah, it's kind of a party.

645
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 6: I think.

646
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 8: I think that's where we are now. We need to

647
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 8: celebrate this time. So that's what that's what we're doing, Mars.

648
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: Using all of your journalistic yes stabilities, because you're so fabulous.

649
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm super super excited.

650
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 8: I We're going to have monitors all over the place

651
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 8: that women can screen in and ask questions and get information,

652
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 8: because I just think that's the only way we're going

653
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 8: to get this word out there. And I hope, you know,

654
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 8: we have young women coming in, and I hope they

655
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 8: see their moms coming in. So yeah, I'm really excited

656
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 8: about it. I'm excited about it.

657
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean too.

658
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Speaker 1: I think it would be a great time to do

659
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Speaker 1: a little Q and A if you guys are open

660
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: to it. I hope that you all have questions, because

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Speaker 1: I know I did and do Amy, Sugarman, I see

662
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Speaker 1: you have a microphone.

663
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Speaker 3: Is this the thing on?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 12: I have questions. First of all, all the ladies wearing

666
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 12: blankets are not in menopause because it is.

667
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Speaker 1: Well always Sometimes you're really hot and then instantly it changes.

668
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: To your freezing.

669
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Speaker 3: Not for me, okay, always hot.

670
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Speaker 6: Who has a question?

671
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: Don't be shy, don't be shy.

672
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Speaker 12: What's your name?

673
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: Hi, Nancy, I'm coming, I'm coming. I'm coming. Careful your foot, Amy.

674
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 12: I know I broke my ankle, but I'm fine. Now, Nancy,

675
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 12: where are you from?

676
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Speaker 6: I'm Orange County? What is your question?

677
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 5: So I'm wondering about the length of this lovely transition.

678
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Speaker 2: I'm fifty five.

679
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: I think I'm over the hump, but I still have

680
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 5: the ragye moments, and so I'm just wondering about.

681
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Speaker 6: Typically how long it is.

682
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: I asked my mom.

683
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 5: And my sister and they're like, oh, like seven years.

684
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Speaker 2: So I don't know, dogt your eve.

685
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Speaker 6: I mean, how long is this last?

686
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 13: Start?

687
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: But please chime in the perimenopause, which often begins with

688
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 3: the regular periods, hot flashes, difficulties sleeping, you can see

689
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: how it often overlaps with other things and other challenges

690
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: in our life, but sometimes even five to seven years

691
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: before the period actually stops. And you know, we don't

692
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: have a lab test per se. It's really you know,

693
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 3: your you go to your doctor and you say, I

694
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: haven't had a period for twelve months without spotting, without

695
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: any irregularity. So five to seven years.

696
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Speaker 2: Ish, that's that's. Oh we have another question.

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00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, bunch down here.

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Speaker 12: Lorraine's up there too, so we're going to take care

699
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 12: of people up up above too. I'll do one right

700
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Speaker 12: here and then we'll go to you, Lorraine.

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Speaker 3: What's your name?

702
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 14: Hi? My name is Julie and I'm from Denver. I'm

703
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Speaker 14: also fifty five and I feel like I've been in

704
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Speaker 14: perimenoposter about ten years but I'm also a breast cancer survivor,

705
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 14: and just I've tried all of the Western medicine options

706
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 14: and I cannot find anything the brain fog night sweats.

707
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 14: It's just I don't know any suggestions other than estrogen

708
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 14: because I can't do the past.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's important to talk about it holistically.

710
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: And sometimes when I think about the word holistically, I

711
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: think it's just Eastern medicine. But you talk about the

712
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: fact that it's embracing all the modalities.

713
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: It is absolutely and again Naomi and Tamson should chime in.

714
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Speaker 3: First of all, I'm sorry for everything you're going through,

715
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Speaker 3: and I have. I just had a patient yesterday who's

716
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: enduring the same thing, like really difficult symptoms and then

717
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: doesn't have certain, you know, modalities available. Vioza, which is

718
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: a neuro kind I don't know if you have tried that,

719
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 3: but it's a NK three receptor receptor antagonist and it's

720
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: just been FDA approved, so that that's non hormonal and

721
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: it targets the thermoregulator center in the brain. That's a

722
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: game changer for hot flashes. That's the newest one, I

723
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: would say, And in terms of help in terms of

724
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: help with that. I will say also, there's some work

725
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: done at U C l A. It's uh, the brand

726
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: name is Cleoatra, so that's not UCLA, but there is

727
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 3: a brand where there is an estrogen that doesn't bind

728
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: to the estrogen receptors in the breast, and so that

729
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 3: is something that's coming to market very soon. So again

730
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: getting the benefit of hormone you know, therapies, but without

731
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Speaker 3: the risk to the breast tissue.

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Speaker 12: Let's go up above, Lorraine.

733
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Speaker 2: Who do you have.

734
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Speaker 3: Jenny Landyline?

735
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Speaker 2: Oh hi, Jenny.

736
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 10: I am a coutume designer. I was lucky enough to

737
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 10: dress Jenny on nine or two one zero. Thank you

738
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 10: for this form.

739
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Speaker 2: It's been so.

740
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Speaker 10: Amazing today coming Oh my gosh, I'm so excited somebody

741
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 10: with an IUD. An IUD changed my life with endometriosis.

742
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 10: But now I feel like I'm having all the stuff

743
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 10: going on and the period is or not having a

744
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 10: period is not a signal. So what are your suggestions

745
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 10: on I've asked doctors, They're like, oh, you're a full menopause,

746
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 10: and then they gave me estrogen cream and then I

747
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 10: had a full period and got all my cramps back.

748
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 10: So maybe someone that's had experience with an IUD. The

749
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Speaker 10: symptoms aren't because usually with an IUD you don't get

750
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Speaker 10: your period.

751
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't get. So you're saying it's

752
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: hard to tell. It's hard to tell.

753
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: Am I just old and tired? Or is a brain fog?

754
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Right?

755
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 10: Am I just cramping because I got gas?

756
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 6: Or is a brain you know what I mean?

757
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: Like all the things.

758
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 6: That go along.

759
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Speaker 10: Well, you guys are saying the symptoms with an IUD.

760
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Speaker 10: I think there's a lot of things you can't tell

761
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Speaker 10: because it does stop the period for some people.

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Speaker 2: I can't answer that.

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Speaker 10: I don't know any medical because I've been to three

764
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Speaker 10: to you often.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll definitely take a try. I mean, it

766
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 3: is so hard when there's so many variables, and I

767
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: just want to kind of start with you know, you

768
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: did mention holistic, and I did want to mention as

769
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Speaker 3: well that what's so also hard about this perimenopause menopause

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Speaker 3: time is that often and I'll get to your question too,

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00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: is that right? We feel tired, we have difficulties sleeping,

772
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: we have anxiety. This also coincides with times in our

773
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: lives where our parents are sick where you know, we

774
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: have career changes, relationship changes, you know, we're tired, So

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00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: a lot of it can be conflated with the IUD.

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00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have a copper or plastic.

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00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: You don't have to tell me now, but I would

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Speaker 3: I would remove the variable. I think it's very very

779
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 3: hard to sort of start you know, too many different

780
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: things because then you're like, well, which one actually made

781
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: the difference? So if you from here you look twenty five.

782
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: But if you are paramenopasal, I would consider maybe taking

783
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: out the IUD if you're actually bleeding through, because that

784
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: shouldn't happen, and the creams shouldn't. Neoli and I were

785
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: just talking. The creams shouldn't give you a full period either. Yes, yeah,

786
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: so that sounds that does sound more like you know, perimenopause.

787
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Speaker 3: And even with the IUD, it's it's really more of

788
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: a mechanical barrier. So he has a tiny bit of

789
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: progesterone sometimes, but you still might need you know, the

790
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: hormone therapy as well, if if that's something that you're

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Speaker 3: a candidate for.

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Speaker 12: Definitely, who has a question down here?

793
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Speaker 1: I love all these questions. You are so brave. This

794
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: is what it's all about.

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Speaker 9: Hi, I'm Lorena. Oh, I'm Lori enough from San Francisco.

796
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Speaker 9: I'm a massage therapist, so going back to the holistic

797
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 9: and I'm also do hr tea myself. It doesn't have

798
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Speaker 9: to be one thing or the other. They can compliment

799
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Speaker 9: each other. So that's really important to remember.

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Speaker 2: Earlier today there.

801
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Speaker 9: Was a talk about PCOS with one of the speakers.

802
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 9: Do you have you seen any additional severity and symptoms

803
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 9: for someone that already has PCOS and then going through

804
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 9: the perimenopause stage.

805
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: I have not. I don't know in your experience, you know,

806
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: speaking so many women, I have, I have not.

807
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 12: Actually, Loreene, what's happening up there?

808
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 2: We have somebody with a really good question.

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00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 12: Hi.

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Speaker 15: My name is Jamie and I'm fifty nine years old

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Speaker 15: and I'm from Santa Monica, California. My question is I

812
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 15: didn't have when I went through menopause, I didn't have

813
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 15: any symptoms, so I didn't find the need to start

814
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 15: homer replacement.

815
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: So now in my.

816
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 15: Later fifties, is it too late to get any of

817
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 15: the benefits of aging and the reduction of aging because

818
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 15: I don't look twenty five. Would that help me. Now

819
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 15: at this point in my life.

820
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 7: I feel like this is a doctor about you.

821
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: Try you can easily play one.

822
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm definitely yeah for that.

823
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: It is not too late, but I really encourage you

824
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: to have the conversation with your provider. It's not too late.

825
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 3: But what you do bring up and I wouldn't mind

826
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: opening up the conversation about this, which is is the

827
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: aging aspect, so you know, the even the you know,

828
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: we've even moved away from hormone replacement because we're really

829
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: not replacing anything right, nothing is broken or failing right

830
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: or faulty, but it's you know, it's hormone therapy. So yes,

831
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 3: there could be some therapeutic benefits. Absolutely, so you might

832
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: not might not have had so far right, really disruptive

833
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: hot flashes, difficulties sleeping, but it could be that over

834
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: time you do experience what we call the genito urinary

835
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: syndrome of menopause. Used to be vaginal atrophy, but we're

836
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: getting rid of that patriarchal language.

837
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: I'm good, you.

838
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: Don't shrink here, and so that's where for example, vaginal

839
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: estrogen might help. And sometimes I would you know, suggest

840
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: the conversation. Sometimes getting ahead of that you know, is

841
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: it would be really beneficial because it's not just the

842
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: plumpness of your vagina. There's also predisposition to urinary tract infections.

843
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: The tissue of the vagina gets very, very fragile.

844
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 7: And that's pretty safe for everyone, right, because it doesn't

845
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 7: go through the bloodstream.

846
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: That's right, I'll come over here.

847
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 12: Did we talk about how the anxiety is a disaster

848
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 12: during menopause?

849
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: We should address that.

850
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Speaker 12: I think, yeah, I think Jenny knew I was having

851
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 12: it just by looking at me, like, did.

852
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 6: That happen to all of you?

853
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: Yes? Hard, yes, yes.

854
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 7: And I think for me it was born out of

855
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 7: disrupted sleep. For me, if I couldn't get my sleep

856
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 7: under control, it was basically a non starter. I had

857
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 7: to I have to have sleep, I can't work, and

858
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 7: you know, like remember dialogue or you know, there's all

859
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 7: kinds of things that it can lead to. Anxiety, lack

860
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 7: of confidence, memory blips, depression, mood swings. You know, if

861
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 7: you don't sleep right that, yeah, it's just going to

862
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 7: lead to too many things. So certainly for me that's

863
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 7: a gare again where HRT helped me. The progesterone calms

864
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 7: me down at night. I also do other things holistically speaking,

865
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 7: just in lifestyle things. I exercise as much as I can.

866
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 7: I eat healthily. I do a wine down at the

867
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 7: end of the night. I take a bath if I can,

868
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 7: you know, just to bring down the anxiety.

869
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Not eat too late, not drink too late.

870
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 7: I try not to drink too often, but I do

871
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 7: love a cocktail now and again. So those sort of

872
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 7: things adjusting your lifestyle that will help support your sleep,

873
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 7: which is going to help quality of life.

874
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: Thank you that was for me.

875
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Speaker 11: No, thank you, thank you for doing your show thing

876
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 11: here today and ask you. Thank you ladies for showing up.

877
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 11: Oh and thank you Ryan for taking me.

878
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so this is her acceptance speech.

879
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Speaker 16: I love.

880
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 11: I just vitamins or pills. I don't know what they're

881
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 11: supposed to be called. I'm summer. And I did asked

882
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 11: about hormone replacement thing because I had menopause. I don't

883
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 11: know for how many years, I don't remember, but I

884
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 11: was gonna ask Miss Watts about that and also doctor E. E. Glazer,

885
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 11: and I wanted to ask about They didn't tell me

886
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 11: about the patch.

887
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: My husband told me you.

888
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 11: Should ask for the past because he watches a lot

889
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 11: of YouTube.

890
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: So then I was like, Okay, I will ask.

891
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 11: For the pats because I just got the pills yesterday.

892
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 11: So I didn't know that you could do something with

893
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 11: the menopause. And that's my question, Like, how do I know?

894
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 11: And talk to the doctor because doctor, long story short,

895
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 11: the doctor said tried to get me not to take.

896
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: Anything at all. Female doctor.

897
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 11: Sorry anyways, but you know that was like crazy for

898
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 11: me to think, like, Okay, you want cancer, you want

899
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 11: a heart attack, you wants stroke. I'm like, well, those

900
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 11: don't sound really nice to me, but I have to try.

901
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 11: I have to try and can moderate and blah blah

902
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 11: blah blah.

903
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 8: I'm yeah, but is your question that your doctor won't

904
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 8: prescribe it to you.

905
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: She just got the pill.

906
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 12: She's just just got a pill.

907
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: But it sounds like she was dissuaded. Oh got it

908
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: from trying.

909
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 6: You know, you should address the hormone therapy.

910
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 8: But I think that you know, this is what we

911
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 8: were talking about when we said that two thousand and

912
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 8: two study that there are still a lot of doctors

913
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 8: that aren't educated about it. Some of the doctors get

914
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 8: a week a month of training in medical school, so

915
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 8: when a doctor gave you those kind of answers like

916
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 8: you're going to have a stroke or heart attack. There

917
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 8: they're using what they believe was evidence of that study,

918
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 8: which has been you know, been shown not to be

919
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 8: the case. So I'm glad that you're someplace now with

920
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 8: a doctor that's listening to you. And kudos to your husband,

921
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 8: because men need to be part of this conversation for sure.

922
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: So that's a good point.

923
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 6: That's amazing that he did that.

924
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's even better.

925
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 12: Hey, do more too, More, Lorraine, what do you have

926
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 12: up there?

927
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: Make it good?

928
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: Make it good, ladies.

929
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 15: Okay, so we have Madeline up here with a really

930
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 15: good question about supporting Hello.

931
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 16: Hey, Jenny, you look better than the ten You look

932
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 16: like you lost ten years since the ten years ago

933
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 16: I saw you last.

934
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm wondering how.

935
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 16: We can best support our moms and the wiser women

936
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 16: of the world, as the younger generations as they're going

937
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 16: through this transition that is clearly so powerful and important

938
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 16: in our one.

939
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't think I was very

940
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: supportive with my mom. I was like, I shut it down.

941
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want to hear about it. I didn't want

942
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: to know about it, I'd be like, Okay, bye. But

943
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: I think my girls, I think there's so much more

944
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: open to They know that it takes a village and

945
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: that we're all in this together, and they know that

946
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: my future is their future, and so there's such a

947
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: different level of compassion and empathy I think with this

948
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: younger generation, at least for my experience. And I'm so

949
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: grateful for that because I don't want to suffer in silence.

950
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: I don't want to feel alone in this journey, and

951
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: I want to, you know, be an example for them,

952
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: even through menopause.

953
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 12: Okay, this is I've been told this is a really

954
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 12: good one.

955
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: Make it juicy, it's the contact.

956
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: Get sexy.

957
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: Make it sexy.

958
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Hi, So my question is this. Listen.

959
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 13: I've got estradel on my face, in my vagina, I've

960
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 13: got a patch, I've got pagesterone, I've got testosterone cream,

961
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 13: I've got thy worid.

962
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: How I'm fifty seven.

963
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: How long do you have to be on this forever?

964
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 2: That's a good question I want to know too.

965
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lot of stuff.

966
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 7: I've got my obgyn in New York it's seventy and

967
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 7: she's still on it, still on it, and she's yeah,

968
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 7: strongly an advocate of it if it's safe for you.

969
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 13: Is it strongly still based on our blood work anymore?

970
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 13: Or is it just we just have to keep doing

971
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 13: it because your body's used to it.

972
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: What was the last part of the question.

973
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 13: Or is it because our bodies now reliant a little

974
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 13: bit on the.

975
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: It's it's not like it's it's reliant, but it's it's

976
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: not there. So you are infusing it with with a

977
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: certain amount of estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. That everything you mentioned,

978
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: I agree with, Naomi. I think that And again there

979
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: could be something geographic. I really want to acknowledge that,

980
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, I think being you know, by coastal, being

981
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, I mean, I like to think that,

982
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: you know, the institutions, at least that I'm familiar with,

983
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: are are much more embracing and trying to stay more

984
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: up to date. But I see Objian's constantly reassessing the

985
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: North American menopause society, looking at guidelines every day, you know,

986
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: basically tight trading to symptoms. Right, So in your I

987
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: mean that's why I would say, don't just go on

988
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: something and just stay on it for fifteen years, have

989
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: a constant assessment, constant conversation, acknowledge that you're changing, your

990
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 3: body's changing, and then you know, make little adjustments as necessary. Yeah.

991
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 13: I just wasn't sure if, like, when you got to postmenopause,

992
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 13: could you ease up or not?

993
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes you do, but sometimes I've had patients who are

994
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: on a certain dose they go down and then all

995
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 3: of a sudden they have hot flashes, you know. Again,

996
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: So it's it's a little bit of a of a

997
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: give and take.

998
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: Friends.

999
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 8: I was just going to say, I'm perimenopause's oh thank you.

1000
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 8: I was going to say, a perimenopause is not that

1001
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 8: test because your hormones are fluctuating. But if you're on testosterone,

1002
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 8: blood tests would be something smart, right.

1003
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: Just depending on which way you're giving, you're getting it.

1004
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: Yep, we have time for one one more, one last question.

1005
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: They're so good, take it.

1006
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 6: Good, make it juicy?

1007
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 12: Can we have to do dirty stuff when we're eighty?

1008
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 5: Like?

1009
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: Can you do that?

1010
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 17: Hi?

1011
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: My question is for the doctor.

1012
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 17: I'm Chrystelle and i am sixty five, so I'm way

1013
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 17: past that. But I've had a breast cancer scare already

1014
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 17: and they just said it's progesterin and estrogen fed, so

1015
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 17: replacements were out of the question. And I'm not I'm okay.

1016
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 17: I mean there's sleep disruption part of its work related.

1017
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 17: But what other options? You said there is something that's.

1018
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: Right, well, depending I mean depending on your symptoms. So

1019
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: this is to me where having the conversation and I

1020
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 3: really want to, you know, put a pitch in for

1021
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: finding that trusted provider. And they come in lots of

1022
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: different forms, so whether they're your osteopath, your nurse, your doctor,

1023
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: your therapist. But I do think that having that conversation

1024
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: because there are other options. I mean there's you know,

1025
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: amazing topicals, right and you have amazing you know, products

1026
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: on that you've developed. I think there's and I would

1027
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: talk to perhaps other patients friends who are in the

1028
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: same boat. But for example, if you're not having terrible

1029
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: hot flashes, you might not need estrogen, right, So I

1030
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: think it's really about what's bothering you, And then it's

1031
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: like we could we do that risk benefit calculus with

1032
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: you and then and then decide what's what's best. Do

1033
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: you even need anything or or not, you know, and

1034
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: what's what's best for you. And I think that's a

1035
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 3: big point of this is that it's again universal and

1036
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: we're lucky to go through it, we're lucky to be

1037
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: here to talk about it. But it's also incredibly singular.

1038
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: You know what what you go through as well, so

1039
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: you have to find what works for you.

1040
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I think it's just so important to

1041
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: never make a decision in crisis mode. So much like

1042
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: with the wildfires, when you see the fire raiging towards

1043
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: your home, have a plan in place. Same thing with menopause.

1044
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: Have a plan in place. Because it's coming, there's no

1045
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: denying it, and we want to be ready for it.

1046
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: So I think that it's.

1047
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: From listening to brave women like you and such great

1048
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: education from doctor Eve, that we can all prepare ourselves

1049
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: a little bit better and know how to take care

1050
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: of ourselves and to choose ourselves in the future or present.

1051
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: And I just want to thank you all three of

1052
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: you for being here. You're inspirational. What you've done for

1053
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: the conversation is I don't have words for how grateful

1054
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: I am for you to bring this to all of

1055
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: us and to my children, my daughters.

1056
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: So thank you for being here, thank you, thank you,

1057
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: thank you for having us. Really, let's give it up.

1058
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: Let's give it up for our marvel

1059
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: At menopause, Mavens, and thank you, Tamson Nailmi, doctor Glazer,