1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome, 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: things are happening. We're on every day from one until 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: four o'clock, and after four o'clock every day we post 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: the podcast so you can listen to the whole show 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: every day, even if you're not always available when we're 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: on live. So one to four on the KFI and 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: streaming on the iHeart app, and after four o'clock the 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: podcast John Cobelt Show on demand also on the iHeart app. 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: And Today's day where you are going to want to 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: be around as much as you can. Next hour, two o'clock, 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: we're going to have the La Fire Chief himI Moore. 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: Now we only have him on for ten minutes, and 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: he's doing a media tour mostly television interviews, but we 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: got him, we got a slot, and so at about 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: two o'clock or so, next hour, Chief Himimore on the 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: phone and we'll talk to him about all that's going on. 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if he has a particular announcement that 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: he wants to make, what kind of what, why he 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: wants to spread the word in so many places in 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: a short period of time, But we will we will 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: find out coming up in an hour, so be listening 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: right at two o'clock and shortly thereafter. Haimi Moore, the 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: LA Fire Chief, I'll be talking to him live and 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: one of the big stories and this broke late on 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: Friday regarding fire fighting here in Los Angeles. CBS News 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: CBS two had a report and we're going to play 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: you the report and it's about at over five minutes long. 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: It's it's really important because shockingly, CBS LA obtained public 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: records to show that more than well last year, they 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: got records showing that more than one hundred LA Fire 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: Department trucks and engines and ambulances had been out of 33 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: service and a need of repair. And it looks like 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: we have even fewer trucks and engines and ambulance is 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: available than last year. But the total numbers as of 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: last month, December twenty twenty five, the total numbers were 37 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: lower than the numbers in January twenty twenty five. Fewer 38 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: fire trucks, fewer engines, and fewer ambulances. And it looks 39 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: like there's a five percent drop in these categories. So 40 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: about two months ago, Home Moore was sworn in as 41 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: the new fire chief. Let's play to get things rolling. 42 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: The CBS two report with Jeff Win. 43 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: Just crazy hotspots everywhere. As the Palacies fire burned out 44 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: of control under hurricane force wins, some people chose to 45 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: stay and fight. 46 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: Your house is still standing, so is fine. 47 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: Court. 48 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: Wagner picked up garden hoses to take a stand against 49 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: the flames himself. I had all hoses running at every 50 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: house here, six hoses running two of that house, one two, three, 51 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: four seven total. Why did you choose to pick up 52 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: your garden holes? 53 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: We're on our own. 54 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: Last year, we obtained public records that showed more than 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: one hundred Lacit Fire Department trucks, engines, and ambulances had 56 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: been out of service and needing repair through a records request. 57 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: We recently got new data on the department's fleet. On 58 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: January seventh of last year, the day that Palisades fire 59 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: broke out, there were two hundred fifty two fire engines 60 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: and trucks or heavy apparatus available to respond to calls, 61 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: and two hundred seventeen ambulances in the total fleet. But 62 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: according to LAFD data last month, the heavy apparatus count 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: was down to two forty and ambulances two oh seven, 64 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,279 Speaker 3: drops of nearly five percent in both categories. 65 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: I may need more. 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: In November, Jimmie Moore was sworn in as the new 67 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: head of the departments following leadership changes brought on by 68 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: the handling of the Palace Stades. Fire More acknowledges the 69 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: department needs more equipment. Bud says he has to manage 70 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: within his means while the city faces a budget crisis 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: following one of the deadliest and most destructive wildfires in 72 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: California history. The department says it has received three new 73 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: fire engines, with three more expected to arrive in the 74 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: next few weeks. We wanted to ask the chief. 75 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 5: Why right now fire engine is about a two year 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: weight when we order a fire engine. 77 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: He also says some of the fire engines and trucks 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: in the department's aging fleet are so old original parts 79 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: are impossible to find. 80 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 5: We're putting about forty on the average, forty thousand miles 81 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 5: a year on a fire engine. The average person drives 82 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 5: fourteen thousand miles a year. 83 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 3: The union that represents firefighters says the problem is evident 84 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: at this fire station bay in South Lay and many 85 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: others because of previous department cuts. 86 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 6: Usually, so what we'd have is we'd have the fire 87 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 6: truck that would be parked here that's gone we last 88 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 6: in twenty ten, and behind this engine, we'd have another 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 6: engine that supports the truck. And so we're missing to 90 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 6: those apparatuses and we only have one right now. 91 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 3: The department report to the Fire Commission data just days 92 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: before the Paliciaes fires said the overall response time of 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: LAFD resources has increased from six minutes fifty one seconds 94 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen to seven minutes fifty three seconds in 95 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. That's about twice the four minute standard 96 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: set by the National Fire Protection Association. The union says 97 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: LAFD staffing is about half the size the department needs 98 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: to keep LA safe. Chief More is looking at bringing 99 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: in more fast response vehicles, which don't have a two 100 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: year weight like a fire engine. They can be delivered 101 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: in four to six months. He believes they can help 102 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: improve response times on small fires and medical calls, and 103 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: they're less costly than a large fire engine, which is 104 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: staffed four members. Frvs have to by doing so, do 105 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: we impact the coverage by having fewer human beings, boots. 106 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: On the ground, yes and no. 107 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: Having an FRV there allows us the flexibility to get 108 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 5: a resource on scene. However, an FRV in some cases 109 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 5: does not take the place of a fire engine, and 110 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 5: it does not take the place of a truck. 111 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: A major reason so many apparatus are out of service 112 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: is the fire department has had a shortage of mechanics 113 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 3: for years. Since the Palisades fire, seventeen positions have been 114 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: authorized for hire. One automotive supervisor position has been filled, 115 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 3: but zero mechanics so far. 116 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 5: I think there's a big demand for mechanics out there 117 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 5: and there's a shortage of mechanics. 118 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: This is councilwoman at Tracy Park who represents the palis 119 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: Ades walking through the monochromatic wasteland of the fire on 120 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: January eighth of last year. One year later, we asked 121 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: her about the apparatus count better today than we were 122 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: a year ago. 123 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: I don't feel that we are really any better prepared 124 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: today on. 125 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: The mechanics shortage. She says, we may need to reform 126 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: the city charter, which makes hiring key positions so slow. 127 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: It's a leftover product from the nineteen six season. We 128 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: have got to move to more online systems. We have 129 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: got to increase efficiencies. 130 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: The department says it typically takes about eight to ten 131 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: months to fill positions like mechanics. Your house is standing, 132 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 3: your neighbor's houses are standing, yep, But are they livable? 133 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: No? 134 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: A lot of toxic smoke poali states Fire survivor Court 135 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: Wagner says, the shortages of equipment and staff will have 136 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: a lasting impact on rebuilding. Here, what's the psychological impact 137 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: of those numbers. 138 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: You want to leave? 139 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: The psychological impact is you still have no faith in 140 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: the governing bodies. Mayor Karen Bass's office declined our request 141 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: for an interview, instead emailing a statement that reads in 142 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: part of Mayor Bass proposed and secured one hundred and 143 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: twenty million dollars in funding authorization for engines, trucks and 144 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: other apparatus during fiscal year twenty four twenty five and 145 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: fiscal year twenty five twenty six. In the meantime, the 146 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: Firefighters Union will start a signature gathering campaign this month 147 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: to get a half cent sales tax ballot measure on 148 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: the November ballot. The money would raise funds to go 149 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: towards new trucks, engines, and fire stations. 150 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: All right, And that is Jeff Win for CBS two 151 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles. The shocking report is that there 152 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: are fewer fire trucks, fire engines, and ambulances as part 153 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: of the LA Fire Department fleet now than there was 154 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: a year ago the day of the fire. 155 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe. 156 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,359 Speaker 2: Part of the problem is that there's been a consolidation 157 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: of fire manufacturers fire truck manufacturers, and there is a 158 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: really long wait to get a new fire truck. I'm 159 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: gonna explain what has happened. There was a lot of 160 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: corporate merging going on and there just aren't that many 161 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: places to go to get a not that many companies 162 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: that construct fire trucks and what they do do it 163 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: takes a long time. So we'll get into that, and then, 164 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: like I said, two o'clock, next hour, we're gonna have 165 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: the new fire chief. Hi Mei moron. We've got a 166 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: short time, short window. He's doing a whole media tour 167 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: one by one. We'll have him on at about two o'clock. 168 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 169 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 7: six forty. 170 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: We are going to have LA Fire chief, Hi, me Moron. 171 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: At two o'clock, we have a short interview. He's doing 172 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: a media tour, and we have a window at about 173 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: two o'clock or shortly thereafter, himI Moore, the LA Fire Chief, 174 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: on the phone, so you'd be listening to that. And 175 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: we just played the CBS two report by Jeff Winn 176 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: on Los Angeles. We've got five percent fewer fire trucks, 177 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: fire engines, and five percent fewer ambulances than we did 178 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: on January seventh, the day of the fire. So twelve 179 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: months later, we have less less equipment to put out 180 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: the fire, to put out all the fires. And you 181 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: made wonder because actually you didn't know this, just looked 182 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: it up. What is the difference between fire engines and 183 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: fire trucks? 184 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: Do you know? 185 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 8: I do not know? 186 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm going to tell you. Fire engines 187 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: are for fire suppression. They have a water tank and 188 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: a pump, and they carry fire hoses. A fire truck 189 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: that's like a ladder truck, and that's for rescue and access. 190 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: They have an aerial ladder or a platform to access 191 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: high rise buildings. They have ground ladders. They have ventilation 192 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: tools like axes and saws to bust things open. They 193 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: have limited or in some cases no water tank. So 194 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: that's the difference between a fire engine which carries the 195 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: water and the pump and the hoses, and a fire truck, 196 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: which has ladders and ventilation tools. 197 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 9: And then John, I was asking you this off the air, 198 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 9: but maybe somebody has the answer. So you know, my 199 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 9: dad was taken to the er on New Year's Day, 200 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 9: so we called nine to one one paramedics came as 201 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 9: well as a fire truck. Why why do we need 202 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 9: a fire truck to come when a paramedics an ambulance 203 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 9: is coming. 204 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: And I've seen that frequently. I've seen fire trucks show 205 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: up with an ambulance. 206 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 8: And there's no fire. 207 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: They're doing a health check on an elderly person and. 208 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 9: There's no rescue. So we don't need a fire truck 209 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 9: or a fire engine. So I'm just I'm I'm truly, 210 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 9: I don't know. 211 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 8: I know that there's an answer to that, obviously, and it's. 212 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: An important question because they put so many miles on 213 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: fire trucks every year. 214 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they put, according. 215 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: To LA, forty thousand miles a year they put on 216 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: the fire trucks and here in La. You know, we 217 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 2: have thousands and thousands of bumfires, and so they're constantly 218 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: in motion putting out all the fires that the vagrants 219 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: set intentionally or unintentionally, anything from the propane grills to 220 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: the arsonists who were let out of prison and now 221 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: are living out in the streets and they're starting fires 222 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: just for fun and just the you know, the general 223 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: mayhem that their bad behavior creates. According to this story, 224 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: and this is from the New York Times, there are 225 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: not that many fire trucks being manufactured anymore, and they 226 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: center the story on the lack of fire trucks and 227 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: fire engines here in La on January seventh, the lack 228 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: of mechanics to keep them in service. But the New 229 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: York Times rights there was a deeper problem. For years, 230 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: the fire truck industry has been ratcheting up prices on 231 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: new rigs and failing to meet delivery dates of those 232 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: that were ordered. Some departments are waiting years for replacement vehicles, 233 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: and in the meantime, they're hunting all over the internet 234 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: for spare parts. Spare parts aren't available, and we have 235 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: no mechanics. Even if we found the parts, we have 236 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: no mechanics to put in the parts. It looks like 237 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: Wall Street executives, people in private equity firms led an 238 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: aggressive consolidation of the industry. You had larger companies buying 239 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: up smaller companies looking to streamline efficiency, and none of 240 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: that happened. It's amazing how many times that Wall Street 241 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: executives and private equity executives ruin industries. And if there's 242 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: one industry you don't want ruined, it's the fire truck industr. 243 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: Street. But that's what's happened. 244 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: One company backed by a private equity firm cut its 245 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: own manufacturing lines and some of this is like business gobbledygut, 246 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: a streamlining strategy, and they saw a backlog of fire 247 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: engine orders so many the value of these backed up 248 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: orders billions of dollars. So what's the streamlining here? What's 249 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: the efficiency? So they're fire departments big and small all 250 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: over the country that are frustrated because they can't get 251 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: a new fire truck delivered, and then the costs keep rising, 252 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: and of course you have the jackasses, the absolute jackasses 253 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: who run city governments, who would rather give the money 254 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: away to illegal aliens and criminals and homeless people. Then 255 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: spend it on a fire truck to put out the 256 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: fire in a residential area like the Palisades, And that's 257 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: the truth. 258 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: They make a choice every year. 259 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: Who are you going to give the money to truck 260 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: so a place like the Palisades doesn't get destroyed? Or 261 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: how about the holy trinity illegal aliens and criminals and 262 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: homeless people. 263 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: Edward Kelly is the. 264 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: General president of the International Association of Firefighters, and he 265 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: says it started with the pandemic and supply chain problems, 266 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: manufacturing delays. But now these companies are monopolizing fire truck 267 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: and ambulance manufacturing because they kept merging and merging. It 268 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: used to be back in as recently as the nineties, 269 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: there were small local fire truck manufacturers that built dozens 270 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: or hundreds of trucks a year. But some of the 271 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: companies started to struggle, so Wall Street investment firms bought 272 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:53,119 Speaker 2: them up for low prices, combined them. There is one company, 273 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: American Industrial Partners. It's a private equity firm, and you know, 274 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: private equity firms collect in large amounts of investor money 275 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: from many different contributors, and they brought up fire truck companies, ambulances, 276 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: they make fire trucks, ambulances, school buses, and other municipal vehicles, 277 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: and they combined everything into a company called REV Group 278 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: and took it public. Seeing all these executives probably made 279 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: a big windfall, and they promised to make the company 280 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: more efficient and more profitable. In fact, Timothy Sullivan, was 281 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: the REV Group's chief executive, told analysts at the time 282 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: that the companies had four to five percent profit margins. 283 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: Now we're going to get them above ten percent, and 284 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: other companies were doing the same thing around the country. 285 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: Rev Group kept buying up more truck makers like Spartan Ferrera, 286 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: but found they couldn't streamline the efficiencies and it has uh. 287 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: They're still got a great pop profit margin, but they're 288 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: not manufacturing many fire trucks, which I think in Jeff 289 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: Wynn's story, LA officials said, we were supposed to get 290 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: three new ones this year, so the manufacturing system has 291 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: slowed to almost nothing. Of course, we underfunded the fire 292 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: department for decades so that the money could and when 293 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: I say they fund homeless people, I'm telling you it's 294 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: just mostly pumped into nonprofits, and then the people who 295 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: run the nonprofit steal the money. That's the truth. That's 296 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: probably what I should say. It doesn't go for the 297 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: homeless people, It doesn't go for the poor, it doesn't 298 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: go for even the illegal alien groups. It goes to 299 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: the nonprofits who claimed to service these groups, but they're 300 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: running off with bags of money like they just robbed 301 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: a bank. All right, we got we have more coming up, 302 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: and the fire chief for Los Angeles, himI Moore, is 303 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: going to be on with us just after two o'clock. 304 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: We got a short window to speak with him. 305 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am. 306 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: Six forty on every day from one to four after 307 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: four o'clock. 308 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show on demand Moistline for Friday. Get ready 309 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 2: eight seven seven Moist eighty six. You hear something that 310 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: makes you crazy, call immediately eight seven seven Moist eighty 311 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: six and maybe we'll play back your message your contribution 312 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: on Friday. Also use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. 313 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: Coming up shortly after two o'clock, we're going to have 314 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: himI Moore on. himI Moore is the LA Fire Chief 315 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: and he's talking to media today. He's got a list 316 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: of short interview scheduled, and we're on the list, and 317 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: our slot is shortly after two o'clock, so I would 318 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: make sure you're there right at the top. Listen to 319 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: Debra's news, and then we'll be following up a little 320 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: bit later with Jimi Moore. 321 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: All right, the LA Fire chief. Now, Rob Bonta. 322 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 5: Is that. 323 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: Mini me of Gavin Newsom. Have you ever seen the 324 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: two of them stand next to each other. He's the 325 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: attorney general and he's like a smaller version, but he's 326 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: got the same slip backed hair and greasy demeanor. And 327 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: he's another one that has absolutely no interest in California 328 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: taxpayers at all. But he wanted to run for governor. 329 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: Now he announced today that he's not running for governor. 330 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: And this is the second time in the last few 331 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: months that he changed his mind and announced he's not running. 332 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: Attorney General is often a launching pad to becoming governor. 333 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: It's actually, I would think a better launching pad than 334 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: being lieutenant governor because lieutenant governors don't do anything. And 335 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: you could see, you know what we got with Newsom? 336 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: And who is the other lieutenant governor that made the 337 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: jump in the past, Oh, great Davis, another loser Yeah, 338 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: Lieutenant governors are generally losers. They run for that office 339 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: so they can sit around and do nothing for maybe 340 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: eight years, but sometimes they become governor anyway. But I 341 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: think an attorney general, you know, being the top law 342 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: enforcement agent in a state, is that That's that to me? 343 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: You know, if you had somebody good as a better 344 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: launching pad, I'd rather have the top crime fighter in 345 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: the state than the top guy who sits on his 346 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: ass for eight years. But Rob Bonta, it's a horrible 347 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: attorney general because he doesn't do anything for the California taxpayers. 348 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: All he does is file lawsuits against Trump and it 349 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: complains about greedy corporations. 350 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: But when it comes to all the fraud in this. 351 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: State public officials and nonprofits stealing our tax money, Banta 352 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: does nothing about it. Let me let me talk about 353 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: his in and out nature running for governor. He was 354 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 2: thinking about it last year, then decided he's not going 355 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: to run, and then he said he was thinking about 356 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: it again, and today decided he was not going to run. 357 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: He also got involved. 358 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: With a scandal in Oakland, and he had spent a 359 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: half a million dollars of campaign money on lawyers because 360 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: there was an FBI case investigating the recalled mayor of Oakland, 361 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: Sheng Foul. Sheng Fou was charged with bribery. Somehow Bunta 362 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: was involved in this case enough they had to blow 363 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: a half million dollars in lawyers. You ever do that, 364 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: You ever have to spend a half million dollars of 365 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: lawyers in a some kind of corruption case. And then 366 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: he's claiming he didn't do anything wrong and had to 367 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: do with two guys named Andy and David Dwang, two brothers, 368 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: and they were bribing Foul. It was some contract situation. 369 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: Bonta had gotten one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in 370 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: campaign donations which he had to return, and the dwog 371 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: said they were close to Bonta and Banta's wife who's 372 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: in the Assembly. Bonta said, no, no, we're not close. 373 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: But then the dog started posting photos of them online 374 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: socializing together. So that has a really bad odor coming 375 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: out of that. 376 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: Huh. 377 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: But here's the thing in the In Bonta's statement, he says, 378 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: the up pouring of encouragement from supporters, friends and family 379 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: to jump in the governor's race has sharpened my focus 380 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: and reminded me how grateful I am to work with 381 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: so many who care so deeply. But my resolve is firm. 382 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: Our fight against corp agreed and attacks from Washington require 383 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: a leader with battle tested experience. 384 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: In the courtroom. 385 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: Let me tell you he's filed, on average this year, 386 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: one lawsuit every week since Trump went back into office, 387 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: one lawsuit against Trump every week, over forty of them, 388 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: maybe fifty of them. 389 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: And that's all he does. 390 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: There are no investigations, there are no lawsuits. 391 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: When you look at the two billion. 392 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: Dollars that Karen Bass lost that was supposed to fund 393 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: the homeless, she can't explain where the money went. Shouldn't 394 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: the state attorney general investigate the mayor? 395 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: Now? 396 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: Remember when there was a civil lawsuit trying to figure 397 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: out where the money went. Karen Bass hired fifteen, no exaggeration, 398 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: fifteen lawyers, including eleven from one law firm, Gibson done, 399 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: and they created enough of a fuss that Bass didn't 400 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: have to testify. It was federal court, civil lawsuit, fifteen lawyers. 401 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: So something's going on there. Shouldn't Bond to be investigating Bass. Secondly, 402 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: Kevin Newsom admitted that he lost track of twenty four 403 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: billion dollars in homeless money. How's that possible? You ever 404 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: lose track at twenty four billion? Well, Newsom did same thing. 405 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: This is all nonprofit money. This is all stuff involving 406 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: kickbacks and bloated payrolls, nonprofit executives making hundreds of thousands 407 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: of dollars money just disappearing. Shouldn't Bond to be investigating 408 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: Newsom and all the homeless nonprofits? No, not doing it 409 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: in la against Bass and the homeless nonprofits. 410 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: Not doing it in Sacramento. 411 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: How about the thirty to fifty billion dollars that was 412 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: blown on fraud in the Unemployment office during the pandemic? 413 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: Rob Bonte investigating any of that? Investigating Newsome, investigating Julie Sue, 414 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: the labor secretary at the time. No, how about high 415 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: speed rail? Holy moly, high speed rail seventeen billion smackers 416 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: seventeen billion in eighteen years? No track does BoNT investigate 417 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: that they've done audits? 418 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Same thing. 419 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: Oh, we don't know where the money went. It's not 420 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: written down. It just disappears. You have tens of billions 421 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: of dollars tax money in all cases, tax money evaporating 422 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: in this state. It's the same characters behind it. It's Newsome, 423 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: it's Bass and Rob Bonta. Doesn't investigate him, but he 424 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: files suit against Trump. Trump, Who's got nothing to do 425 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: with the high speed theft, nothing to do with the 426 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: homeless money theft in Los Angeles, nothing to do with 427 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: the homeless money theft that Gavin Newsom was managing. Nothing 428 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: to do with the unemployment money and all that fraud 429 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: which was during the Biden administry. It's got nothing to 430 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: do with any of this. He gets fifty lawsuits. I 431 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 2: don't see anything for Bass and Newsom, the people running 432 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: the unemployment depart it, the people running high speed rail. 433 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: How many people should be under indictment at high speed rail? 434 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: How many nonprofit heads ought to be under indictment in 435 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 2: La and San Francisco and all the other big cities. 436 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: He doesn't investigate anybody, doesn't see anybody. But he wanted 437 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: to run for governor and only pulled out after there 438 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: was an investigation that he was somehow connected to a 439 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 2: bribery case involving the Oakland mayor. And he was so 440 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: involved he needed a half million dollars to dig out 441 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: from under it by hiring a bunch lawyers like Best 442 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: had to hire fifteen lawyers to dig herself at least 443 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: temporarily out of the homeless scandal. This is what's going 444 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: on here, all right. We got the fire chief, himI 445 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: Moore coming up after two o'clock and Dero. I got 446 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: something for you. A lot of vegans like to forage. 447 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: You know what foraging is. You walk through the fields 448 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: and you pick. 449 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 8: I thought you were going to say, fart. I don't 450 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 8: know why. 451 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: No, forage is better forage? You know, you pick stuff 452 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: out of the ground and you eat it. Yeah, it's 453 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: wild food. Well, bad news if you do that. 454 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 455 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: Shortly after Debra's news, We're going to have Heimi Moore, 456 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles fire Chief, coming on. It's a short interview. 457 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: He's doing a whole media tour. We got a window 458 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: a little bit after two o'clock and we will talk 459 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: to Haimi Moore, the LA fire Chief, coming up up 460 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: and minutes. 461 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: So, as a vegan, do you go foraging? Do you 462 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: go out in the fields. 463 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: And pick uh, you know, weeds and whatever is growing 464 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: out of the ground, herbs. 465 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 8: And I mean I have I have done that with 466 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 8: some herbs. 467 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you pick stuff out of the ground, just 468 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: eat it. 469 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 8: When I have grown at myself. 470 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all. 471 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: Right, well I know, I know, I know crazy vegans 472 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: do this stuff. You ever picked mushrooms? 473 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 9: Oh god, no, I'm worried about that. All right, Well, 474 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 9: too many poisonous ones. 475 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: Death cap mushrooms. Uh, they're the one of the most 476 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: recognizable mushrooms. It looks like the you know, it has 477 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: a helmet on. Yeah. In the last two months, there 478 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: were thirty five cases of wild mushroom poisoning poisoning in 479 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: the state Sonoma County. Three people died, three others needed 480 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: liver transplants. People go and pick wild mushrooms. They picked 481 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: the death camp, the death cap mushroom, and they eat. 482 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 8: Them because they don't know that they're deadly, they're toxic. Yeah, 483 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 8: but if you don't know, right, you think, Okay. 484 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 9: We buy mushrooms in the grocery store, at the farmers market, 485 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 9: we get them at restaurants. 486 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: I've never picked anything out of the ground an eat it, 487 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: not once. 488 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, but if there were burgers growing out of the ground. 489 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: When I was seven or eight years old, I learned 490 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: about death cat mushrooms and they were all over my 491 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: back and front yard. Oh yeah, and I was terrified 492 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: after a big rain. Yeah, I was just going to say, 493 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: a couple of days later they'd pop up and I 494 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: looked at them as a little kid, and it's like, 495 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: oh my god, this could kill me. 496 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 8: Really, you thought that they could kill you? Yes, you 497 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 8: were smart, little lad. 498 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: I no, I had heard some Well it was a 499 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: little kid I heard. Maybe my mother told me don't 500 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: eat the mushroom. Mushrooms. You can't cook them, boil them, 501 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: dry them, freeze them. They're poisonous no matter what you do, 502 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: and it'll kill you in a matter of days. Six 503 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: hours in you have diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, pain, dehydration, and 504 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: then you're dies within two to four days, fatal liver toxicity. 505 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 8: Well, thank you for that, PSA. I will not be 506 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 8: picking mushrooms. But I knew. I knew that. I only 507 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 8: I only eat mushrooms that are not. 508 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: I never eat I of course you don't. They're disgusting. 509 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: They can kill you. All right, we come back. We 510 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: got Deborah's news and then him Moore, the LA fire chief, 511 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: on for a short interview on the phone Deborah Mark 512 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. 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