WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Calling Out The Linebackers 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.520 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:14.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.799 springing live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:28.360 Star in Frisco, Elliot flowing live and now your hosts 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:33.960 Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:40.440 It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Tostitos, 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.040 helping fans get in on the game. The official chip 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.519 and the official dip of Talking Cowboys. Glad you're with 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.800 us here from the s WBC studios at the Star 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.520 in Frisco, as we break down the Washington football team 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.880 and the Dallas Cowboys. The Washington's Is Mickey likes the column. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.000 Mickey said that he does that on purpose, and I 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.160 feel like that's I love it. It's funny. I like 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.520 it a lot. But yeah, Washington football team. We're talking 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.200 about the Washington offense and the Cowboys defense today. But 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.000 we've got plenty to get to here over the Latin 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.800 X forty five minutes. Heck Ma Harrison, Isaiah Stanback, Kyle 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.680 Yeoman's with you. No Rob Phillips today or tomorrow as 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.080 he had some some business to take care of. But 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.400 we will see Rob back sooner rather than later. Is 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.320 hopefully it would be a god came a friend. You're 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.160 gonna be okay. You're sitting in the chair, you're filling 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.560 the shoes, feeling right now. He's missing his rub like 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.120 I'm on an island on the island, Rob p island. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.959 I'm on an island by myself on that side of 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.200 the table. Oh man, We've got a lot to get to. No, 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.680 not a ton of news and notes. Usually we start 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.200 this show with news and notes with Rob, but there's 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.160 not a ton to to go with, especially since yesterday, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.880 with it being a long week, was one of the 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.800 more quiet tuesdays you've had and quite some time. Most 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.080 of the news is going to rain down tomorrow or 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.320 at least today, as the Cowboys do get back on 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.799 the practice field today, and then they'll get into kind 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.640 of the injury reports and things of the sort. Is 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.560 Randy Gregory are Neville Gallimore? Are those two guys going 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.320 to be back heading into this Washington matchup? But you guys, 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.280 are you guys a little nervous about this matchup at all? Yep? 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.400 Why is that I think this thing is better than 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.280 I First, first of all, it is a divisional wall, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.560 right is his divisional little competition on and then second 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.200 of all, these guys are these guys are. They're sneaky good. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.040 They're sneaky good, and it's I think it's gonna be 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.560 a very competitive game. I think the areas that they're 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.360 strong end we're still trying to figure out. And you know, 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:43.720 we need I think we need to be hidden on 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.200 all cylinders, much like last week, in order to pull 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.960 this one out. What are some of those areas that 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.120 they're strong end? As I dive more into the running scheme, 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.920 I know yesterday I talked about their individual runners in 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.840 terms of Gibson and the Kissick, but I think their 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.720 running scheme is actually pretty sneaky as well. I think 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.799 that they run, they run a lot of counters, a 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.760 lot of powers, a lot of pulling, a lot of 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.800 guards leaving the defensive end backside. And I think that 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.359 we just have not enforced our wheel on the line 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.040 of scrimmage yet. And I think that against this running scheme, 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.680 you have to be able to do that. So we 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.000 definitely need a defensive line presence and the linebackers are 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.359 gonna have at the second level, are gonna have to to 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.919 be very aggressive. Yeah. I think they've gone on a 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.200 winning streak and some of the teams that they've beat 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.800 obviously have beat you. So when you start doing a comparison, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.400 how do we size up? You start looking at the 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.640 games that you lost in the games that they won. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.720 What did they do? I mean? And so I go 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.680 back and I watched the Tampa tape and to me, 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.720 I just felt like Tampa walked in and underestimated them. Man. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.520 And just like with any team, if you underestimate them 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.320 and you give them life and Tom Brady throws a 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.800 couple of interceptions on their side of the field, and 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.880 you give them momentum, and they are hard to stop 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.360 once they get momentum, especially at home. So M Taylor 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:02.040 Heineke to me, is serviceable. These has been an overachiever 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.920 for most of his career. I think the Cowboys have 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.760 to put themselves in a position defensively to create turnovers. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.160 This is that game where you have to create turnovers. 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.680 Enforced mistakes on this team, but nothing about them per 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.280 se makes me nervous. I think if you stick to 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.400 the ball that you've been playing here. Let's you start 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.320 from last week to this week, all right, but just 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.839 some of the great things that you've done defensively, I 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.680 think this is this is a game that you win, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.600 and you can win it big. I think that's the 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:31.760 matchup that's going to win you this game. It's your 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.600 defense over your offense. It's gonna be a lot like 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.919 last week, and the offense has an opportunity here to 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.279 figure things out. They're gonna get pressured by guys like 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.840 Jonathan Allen and the guys on that Washington defense, Dak 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.359 Prescott will be under pressure. But this I feel like 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.040 this is a game where the Dallas defense can really 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.680 take over. Despite some of the inconsistencies in the run 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.680 game and kind of like what you were talking about. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.680 Against teams that Washington has been successful against, the Cowboys 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.480 have not necessarily been that sucessful against them here Over 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.839 the last couple of weeks during that four game win streak, 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.040 two of those wins against teams that the Cowboys have 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.160 lost to the Las Vegas Raiders, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.840 beat the Carolina Panthers by a single score, and then 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.200 they beat the lowly Seahawks by just two. It was 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.560 seventeen fifteen. The final score, same score of the Raiders 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:28.000 game too, the lowly the lowly Sea. Man. Just do 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:32.760 some money on your team. Man. Not good right now. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.880 The engine they're yeah, they're not very good. But Washington 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.440 certainly gave them a game, or at least Seattle Gabe 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:43.400 Washington a game. But the final kind of right along 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.880 the lines of the Cowboys final five games of the 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:50.160 regular season. Cowboys play four of those five against divisional foes. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.840 All five of Washington's final games are against the NFC East. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.040 It's Dallas Philly, Dallas Philly, and then New York to 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.320 end it out. So that's really odd too much different, No, no, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.520 because we've got, of course Washington than the Giants. Then 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.640 back to Washington's the matchmakers wanted it to come down 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.200 to December, right, That's what they wanted, at least they 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.720 can make it at a little less honest right now. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.159 They wanted it to be in your face obvious that 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.560 we want December to be the month that everybody is 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.919 scratching the claw and trying to get those last little 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.320 positions to go to the playoffs. So it's gonna be interesting, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.440 you know, And I'm glad you say that because this 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.120 is such a crucial game, and we talked about it 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.040 a little bit yesterday. Is how if you win the game, 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.520 it's a three game lead, lose it, it's a one 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.880 game lead, a full two game swing, as most divisional 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.920 games are, but at this point in the season, that 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.919 makes this game that much more important. What is the 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.960 temperature of this locker room right now? Because you had 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:46.760 the three or four losses, you were able to get 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.599 back on track, but it was still sloppy at times 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.960 against the New Orleans Saints. So what do you feel 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.760 like this locker room? Confidence wise? Where do you feel 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.599 like they're at at the moment, because I feel like 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.600 it's kind of hard to gage. I mean I would, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.040 I would honestly say that I think their confidence has 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.000 to be high, that they have to feel good about 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.960 where they are right now. They're getting a lot of 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.880 people back. They were able to get Amark Cooper back, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.560 and you saw just with Man and he was more 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.480 of a decoy a week than anything. But I think offensively, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.040 they've got to feel good about where they were. They've 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.240 got to feel good about, you know, some of the 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.200 and I keep using this we're momentum. But when they 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.440 were going into that six game winning streak, some of 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.920 the things that were clicking for them offensively and getting 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:34.040 guys back healthy, like Michael Gallup. Defensively, I think these 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.480 turnovers in sacks and pressures that they've been getting on 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.560 the quarterback, they've got to feel good about that too. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.480 So going into December, are going against your division. You 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.280 got to look at this like you're oh and zero 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.440 and zero. This is a whole other thing with the 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.200 division folds that you go against, and you got to 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:50.960 try and squeak out. You gotta get as many of 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:54.280 these wins and go into the playoffs with that momentum 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.560 and feeling as good as about yourself as you can. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.520 You know. I just I just think right now, as 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.080 you say temperature, I think they should be feeling really 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.880 good about themselves right now. Good. I think they should 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.720 be just above luke warm, just above Luke warrem not 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.240 not not hot because you're still eating form. I mean, 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.720 you're eating for the record. The record, of mean doesn't 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.800 mean anything. The record the record doesn't mean anything to me. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.160 I mean, that's the stats records all that Jazz's cool. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.800 When you start going against opponents like this at this 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.320 time of the year, that stuff really doesn't matter. It 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.800 really comes down to who's gonna ball out. It comes 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.080 down to how effective are you going to be against 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.160 your opponent? Right, the record or the Washington is not 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.640 going to care what their record is when they when 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.600 they step out that field, neither as Dallas. It's going 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.200 to be all about who can execute. And you know, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.040 these guys have kind of they whipped our tails last year. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.480 You know, obviously it's a different year. Obviously we didn't 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.120 have DAK and all the other things that we could 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.400 throw in there. At the end of the day, the 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.280 areas that we were weak last year we still haven't 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.800 necessarily shared up. So that raises concerned for me, and 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.760 I think that for them has to be some form 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.160 of a question mark until they can prove that they 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.600 that they've solidified that. When you say the record doesn't matter, 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.959 and what context are you saying that going up against 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.320 the division are your division foe? Are you just saying 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.120 saying once you step on the field, once you step 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:06.640 on the film, mean, yeah, we can talk about records 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.480 and all that jazz as you approach the game, and hey, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.559 what happens if you lose, what happens if you win. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.680 Once you step on the field, you're not worried about 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.640 your record. You're not You're really not concerned about your 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.320 You're worried about Hey, we need to take care of 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.880 these cats, regardless of what the outcome of game is. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.680 We need to go hire and handle our business. Yeah no, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.440 I don't. I don't think the ball kick is kicking 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.240 off and Dak is saying, oh, we're eight and four. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.760 I'm just saying like that. As far as the what's 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.760 created this whole season, if there was a narrative to 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.400 this season from where they were just going into Tampa 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:34.720 and the team that you thought that they were going 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.880 to be to what they are right now. Defensively, I 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.199 think you would agree that this is a different team 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.040 from twenty twenty one and who they were in twenty twenty. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:44.520 Oh no, no, no no, no question at all. I don't 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.160 think that's a question at all. But I'm thinking about 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.160 in terms of the temperature. I don't think that you 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.000 can be hot when you have question marks. You can't 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.040 be hot when you have question marks. They in my head, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.600 if if I'm hot, passing games on point, running games 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.400 on point run defense, is on point passing to kind 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.400 of how the Cowboys were in the six game wins. Absolutely, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.120 it felt like everything was going what team is what? 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.640 What team checks all those boxes for you? Nobody. I 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.040 don't feel anybody can say that they're hotten. No, oh okay, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.320 I don't feel anybody can say that this year's being England. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.760 Maybe right now New England. New England's rolling. But even them, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.360 they're not hot, you know, in terms of the passing, 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.360 and they can run the ball on you all day long, um, 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.400 and they're figuring things out passing wise. That we knew 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.320 that they were going to continually get better as that 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.240 quarterback continue to got get more reps and get more confidence. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.160 But I don't, I can't. I don't feel as if. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.040 I don't think we're anywhere near the confidence level that 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.840 we were first first part of the season. No, I'm not. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.719 I don't feel that confidence. I don't know about you guys, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.280 I don't feel that same sense of security. I feel 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.080 like we're going to the games now, and I feel 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.600 like what's going to happen? I don't, you know. I 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.839 feel like before, you know, mid season, we felt like, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.200 oh we go out there and just just smack up anybody. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.000 I don't have that same vibe, that same energy right now. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.319 Why is that the case? Because I mean the inconsistency, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.040 that's that. The inconsistency is that on the the offense? 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.280 Is that on the defense? Is that? Is there someone 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.160 specific blamers that the entire team? And I think it's 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.600 in every aspect. There's been times and this is every team, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.280 right but especially right now. We had a lot of 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:09.880 concerns about the specials. A lot of people have a 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.520 lot of concerns about the special teams. We guess with 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.880 that's shirt up, that's getting a lot better. Now you 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:15.960 start talking about Kellen Moore was in his bag. First 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.120 part of the year, offense was hidden on all cylinders 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.120 and guess what. Then we had some injuries, right, some 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.000 receivers went down. Then you know now we're running big 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.760 game is slim to none. The passing game kind of 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.600 fell off because Dad came out the calf injury. He 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.360 wasn't and he hasn't been as accurate since then. So 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.800 there's question marks around the past, which is definitely question 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.560 marks around around the run. There's question marks about protection 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.760 right now, there's question marks are kick Can we can 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.559 we stop a running a running team that's going to 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.480 be adamant about the run because the last two times 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.000 we faced gifts and he's had one hundred and twenty 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.079 plush yards. Can we stop that? He's going to be 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:49.439 confident coming in here passingwise, defensively, okay, can our defensive 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.520 backs handle these guys? I think we're pretty good on 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:55.000 that regard. But there's there's more question marks than there 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.760 are answers. Now, there's hope. There's a ton of hope 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.400 guys coming back there. Most of the conversation around Cowboys 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.440 right now is what's going to happen when our guys 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.200 come back, not necessarily what is actually taking place on 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.040 the field? What is this? What is the saying in 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.839 the NFL? Though? Hope is not a strategy, it's definitely 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.120 not now. And I appreciate that. I guess from the 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.160 standpoint when I asked who is and you say no, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.320 one is, then hell, you're not judging based off of 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.000 a curve because nobody's actually getting that. Watched the Chris 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.000 Bapple from you. I just feel as though, you know, look, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.920 I agree, I agree with that, and I think that 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.800 you know, as far as your assessment of the entire 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.199 league and the way that teams are playing, like everybody's 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.840 looking to hit stride, even Tampa with the division champs 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.640 where they were last year, this time they were like, man, 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.080 everybody was saying that they're going to super Bowl. That 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.120 was a bad pick up by Tampa. I just believe 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.720 that there are some things that you're starting to see 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.360 from your team, and you can look at the cause 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.640 and effect from the injuries that you just talked about. 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.520 Dak battle through that Saints game and was able to 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.000 complete some passes and get guys open. Seeing Michael Gallaback 0:12:58.080 --> 0:12:59.720 on the field with his other two of me goos, 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.760 you to see how things are going alone. I'm not 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.800 saying that they're red hot right now, not at all, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.240 but I think the and it's not even a hope, 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.360 it's just that you're getting key guys back that can 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.640 help you defensively, and you see how Almark Cooper impacts 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.840 the offense. Is that something that can happen this week? Though? 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.480 And I'm not necessarily talking about Gallimore and Gregory because 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.440 we still are at this point unsure whether or not 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.080 they will be available, But now that Cooper has been 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.320 limited in at least one game, and he's back and 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.280 hopefully the ten days helps him out. Maybe ten days 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.199 helps out Ezekiel Elliott. Do you expect that to click 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.080 now or do you expect it to click two or 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.959 three weeks down the road when they get into a 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:43.040 little bit more opportunity to have some snaps and some continuity. Well, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.679 I hope it's not a strategy, but but I hope 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.240 it's now. But yeah, you know, that's what I wanted 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:49.960 to be. You would like to think that if you 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.280 do from where Randy Gregory left off. I mean, he 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.360 was having Pro Bowl caliber reps. You were saying like, look, man, 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.000 if he could keep this up all year, Oh yeah, 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.880 he's not. Only is he gonna get the bag, He's 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.280 gonna get the big bag according to the way that 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.720 he's playing. The same with you know, we were talking 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.520 about Amark Cooper and can Gallop be a number one 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.600 receiver in the league. Look, those questions were answered as well. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.520 I just feel like, Kyle, look where you're getting the 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.200 guys that you need to make the run. It'd be 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.280 different if you were going into this and all of 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.280 your guys were hurt and then you'd be talking from 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.080 a whole other perspective on what this team could be. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.920 I just think that right now is solid. We look solid. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.040 I feel solid about where we're going into December. And again, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.880 I don't know what Nevill Gallimore is gonna bring. He 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.960 hadn't been on the field all year exactly right, Yeah, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:38.800 I don't know. I know what Tristan Hill can bring 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.600 because we've seen the little sample size from him, So 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.360 I'm okay with that. I felt bad about losing Urban 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.000 because we know that we have to control the line 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.480 of scrimmage and that's where we've been getting hit the most. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.280 I worry about Gibson. I think look his physicality at 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.400 twenty twenty two music. That was an embarrassment to see 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.360 the way that he ran over our guys last year. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.360 I just think that physically, speed wise, our defense is 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.760 in a completely different zone. I just don't see them 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.480 showing up and beating the brakes off of us like 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.080 you know they did last year. Yeah. I honestly just 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.480 feel that most of the confidence right now around at 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:18.240 he's revolving around the Dallas' defense comes around one person, Mica, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:22.440 and if that person hopefully never ever, nothing ever, happens 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.240 to him. But if that person is knocked on some wood, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:25.880 if that person is not on the field, how do 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.880 you feel about your defense? I mean, I still guys 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:30.920 have to step up. I understand that guys have to 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:32.560 step up, But how do you feel about your defense 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.360 not there? I feel better now than I would have 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.200 two weeks ago about that defense because of the law, 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.480 because of guys coming back, yes, and because of Jeron Curse. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.320 It's what you built your team for in the training 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.760 in training camp. Yeah, and Curse is stepped up and 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.960 played exceptionally well. And we're gonna ask a question later 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.720 on about who's been the most surprising part of the defense, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.080 and I'm assuming Curse is going to be in that conversation. 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.640 But the whole point of what you did in the 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.560 off season though, all the roster building, all that acquisition, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.440 all the Steven Jones twenty four seven deal of Hey, 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.120 it's a twenty four seven business of building a roster. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.240 They built it to have depth. Sure, the top end 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.080 talent is there, and when you don't have that top 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.120 end talent, you're gonna see holes. That's what DeMarcus Lawrence left, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.640 That's what Randy Gregory has left. That's what if Michael 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.520 Parsons is not available, we'll leave on that defense. Luckily 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.800 that's not the case at the point moment, and all 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.880 of that top end talent is starting to get back 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.360 and healthy. You're not supposed to win games or at 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.320 least be a Super Bowl contender if your top end 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:35.000 talent's not available, and going to Hope is not a strategy. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.000 But what you're saying is, now that you're getting that 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.960 top end talent back, there's no reason that sudn't shouldn't 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.680 start clicking here over the next couple weeks. And think 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.360 about the watching a football team they lose Chase Young 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.840 and then they go on a winning play better, you know. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.640 I mean, that's that's almost weird to even think about 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.480 or consider the rookie of the year last year that 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.640 has seven and a half sacks and now he's gone 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.360 and your defense is playing better. I where you guys 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.040 have to step up, And that all comes from the 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.680 leadership at the top. We talk about culture, We talk 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.240 about Dan Quinn's effect on this defense, and I don't 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.240 think of it any other way, especially when I see 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.320 it being played out on other teams. At least one 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.320 hundred and twenty yards rushing in each of the last 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:18.440 two games for Antonio Gibson and this Washington football team offense. 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.960 When we come back, we talk about the football team, 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.359 what do they bring from a strength standpoint on the 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.360 offensive side of the football, and how to the Cowboys 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.720 counter it on defense when we come back with more 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:34.120 talking Cowboys. There's nothing as unique as our eyes, which 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.240 is why SLOR pioneers ways to make lenses as unique 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:41.720 as you. Very Lux for super sharp vision, Essential Blue 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:46.119 for protection on Krisol for freedom from glare, three cutting 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:50.920 ex solutions in a single unique lens. 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I'm hoping he's tuning out at this point. 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:25.840 But we were gonna get him a wallet for Christmas 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:27.399 or we were all going in on that are We're 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.679 gonna get him one of those like sweet ones. Now 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:31.239 I'm going for the pro shot. I might get him 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.159 a binder. Get him a binder. Cowboys go to the 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:38.360 back to school aisle and he needs one. He needs 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.760 one of those Velcrow ones that once it starts to 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.080 get ugly, the velcrow won't go back. Then that'll be 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.399 the telltale that you just can't keep it no more. Bro, 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:48.800 when's the last time you had a velcro wall. It's 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.840 been ages. It's about to say, I haven't had one, 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.000 and I don't think I ever had one middle school 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.840 probably Yeah, I was thinking like middle school first fifth 0:20:55.840 --> 0:21:01.280 grade had put in a wallet. Stop. It hit him 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:09.280 with all I did. You guys are so privileged. Let 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.359 it's crazy. I want to you need I think we 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.560 need to make him sleek and get him the wallet 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.720 that goes on the back of the phone. There's don't 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.280 think so. Rob has trust issues. Anybody that has that 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.600 kind of wallets legit trust issues. He's packing it all in, Bro, 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.240 he does, I might forget something, never knows. You get 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.200 one for his phone cover and it's like you can't 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:37.639 lift up his phone anymore. Uh. Chris in the in 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.920 the Break brought up a really good point that no 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.720 team or there's only been two teams that that have 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:47.000 swept the NFC East in the last what twenty years, Chris, 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.919 and more than that, more than that then and the 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.840 Cowboys of course would have to sweep the NFC East 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.879 by winning four of their last five. The only one 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.679 that would not be there would be the Cardinals, and 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.639 then the Washington football team is on. He played one 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.479 divisional game and they last five are all against the 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.919 NFC East. Last time the Cowboys did it was in 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:11.280 nineteen ninety eight back in the Dude. That surprises me 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.600 when I saw that, because while think about it, how 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.639 many Super Bowls the Cowboys won in the nineties and 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:19.680 they never swept the division at any point throughout those runs. Nope, Wow, 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:24.320 just tell you how contentious those those meetings were. A boy, Buddy, Ryan, 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:28.679 Jimmy Johnson, Philly. Oh, you don't have any coaching rivalries 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.960 like that anymore. Maybe you do now and Buffalo and 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.240 those guys don't like each other. That coach was bothered 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.960 by what Bill did. Yeah, Buffalo in New eng Yeah. 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.280 I feel like there's there's coaching rivalries, but there's a 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.719 lot of turnover and some of the big brands lately 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:46.720 in the NFL, and I think it needs to kind 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.000 of get to that point. I feel like Andy Reid 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.800 is probably one of those guys that's starting to solidify 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.760 himself with the Chiefs, but before then, it was the 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.440 turnover from him going to the Eagles to the Chiefs 0:22:56.440 --> 0:23:00.000 and then the Cowboys haven't had a stable decision since, 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.120 I guess, Garrett, but there's there's a lot of things 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.040 that I guess play into that. But I bet you 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.640 it comes back. McCarthy takes a swing at Riverboat run. 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:13.359 Not gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen. That'd be fun though. 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:17.000 All right, let's talk about this run game. Gibson and 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.560 company have had their fair share of success against the 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.000 Cowboys defense the last couple of seasons, most notably last year, 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:27.400 with the Cowboys were just dominated in two games against 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.760 the Washington football team, both on Thanksgiving forty one to sixteen, 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.159 and then back in week what was it eight of 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:35.280 the season, seven of the season and it was twenty 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:38.280 five to three at FedEx Field. They go back out 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.200 to Maryland for this one, and now they're gonna have 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.360 to face Gibson and possibly J. D. McKissick back there 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.040 as well, another tandem backfield that's been pretty good this year, 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:51.280 but Gibson is definitely the main star of that. Isaiah. 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.480 When you look at the film, what scares you the 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.160 most about what those tailbacks and what that running game 0:23:56.160 --> 0:24:00.639 can do against the Cowboys upfront. Their running scheme is 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:04.200 set up for big place. It's where you down, where 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.000 you're down, if you're out of if you choose wrong 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.159 in terms of your your leverage on the defensive line, 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.000 a big play is right there ready to happen. It's 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.880 not it's not a downhill. Hey, we're shooting this one 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.840 gap type of offense. These guys are literally running a 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.320 zone scheme and they're leaving the backside defensive end free. 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.040 They're running tight ends on the backside, receivers to cut 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.919 off the backside, and there's these big, gaping holes that 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.639 present themselves, and it takes one cut to tear in 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:32.680 something that should be two or three yards into something 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.240 that's a fifty yard play. And I think that they 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.760 have the patients to just chip away, chip away and 0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:42.960 wait for that big opportunity. And hopefully that doesn't occur obviously, 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:44.720 but I think that that's the way that this offense 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.800 is set up. And then with Heineke, he's gaining confidence, 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:51.240 he's really gaining confidence and allowing that run game to 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.120 set up and really set up their play action because 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.439 all their run plays they have a route off of 0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.920 their run plays. Every single run play that they have, 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.400 whether it's a counter, whether there's a power or there's 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.080 a regular zone, whether it's a RPO, they have a 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.240 pass a passing option off of it, and they're really 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:10.600 just setting you up. It reminds me of old school 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.520 West Coast offense, where it's like, hey, we hand the 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.439 ball off, but if you don't respect this backside, you know, 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.240 they we'll throw this thing, we'll boot out of it. 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:19.920 And he has the ability to obviously get out on 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.600 the edge and create some issues as well, especially with 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.080 both of their route runners back now. Now, I saw 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.480 that too, and when I watched the running game, I 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.720 try and watch it from the end zone copy, and 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.760 what I saw from Gibson is they the linemen give 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.040 him a two way go. You know, if it's not there, 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:38.920 like you said, it's on the backside and the way 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.200 you have to read and respect it from an RPO standpoint, 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.479 it gives him that you have to close off all 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.320 those options. And you know, I was run Rivera is 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.359 one of my favorite was one of my favorite Bears. 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:55.480 Loved him as a linebacker defensive coordinator for the Chargers. Also, 0:25:55.960 --> 0:26:00.000 you know, just Chargers Bears. Everywhere he's been, he's had success. 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.919 Even with the Carolina Panthers, you knew that that was 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.200 what their formula was gonna be. They're gonna play physical 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.840 defense with Luke Keikley and they're gonna run the ball 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.560 right and the same thing applies here for Washington. They 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.080 are gonna play physical upfront, try and win the line 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.320 of scrimmage, but they want to beat you into submission 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.399 offensive I just think that their offensive line, there's going 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.159 to be some opportunities for us. I think we have 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.399 to put pressure on them every week. We're gonna say this, 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.080 you gotta win the line of scrimmage. Hell, everybody in 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:30.920 the league is saying the same thing, win the line 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:32.879 of scrimmage. But it's going to be important for us, 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.320 especially with Gibson because of the kind of wiggle that 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.240 he has. He's talking about Gibson's patience. He really is. 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:39.880 I mean, he's not one of those guys that tries 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.600 to hit the hole too fast before it's open. He's 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.760 really trying to find his way and read his blocks, 0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:47.080 and he does a good job of doing that. I 0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.679 think our ability to put pressure on these guys up 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.159 front and close those running lanes down. It's going to 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.080 be important for us to just hold these guys off 0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.280 because if they are able to establish any part of 0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.879 their running game, everything else is going to start to 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.880 open up. Now. I guess fortunately for us, we don't 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.119 have to worry about the tight end aspect of it, 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.800 but they still have some guys on the outside man, 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.480 and look, Terry McLaurin is a guy that you know, 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.440 but DeAndre Carter, DeAndre Carter, you have to watch him 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.440 because we've struggled versus. He's the prototypical guy that gives 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:24.960 us problems. Short, speedy, and can work into space. The 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.400 other thing, man, is the last thing about Taylor Heineke. 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.760 He's feisty man. He's a feisty guy. He's gonna keep scrapping. 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:34.760 And just like most quarterbacks, if you give you give 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:39.080 me a phenomenal defense and a serviceable quarterback, you can 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.000 win some games. And that formula still works in the NFL, 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.400 especially when you can run the football. Like you said, 0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.200 it opens everything up. And that's how Taylor Heinekes still 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.119 won football games is because the running game has opened 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.360 things up. I'm gonna go back to Week four, I'm 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.040 gonna read off the running totals from Washington as a 0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.240 team since this week four. This is pretty incredible. They're 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.359 still ranked ninth in the NFL one hundred and twenty 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.879 four yards per game. But this is what they've done lately. 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.480 After kind of a pitter pattering to start the year, 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.200 one twenty two versus Atlanta, one thirty one versus New Orleans, 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.160 they only had ninety four against Kansas City. Kansas City 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.920 kind of shut them down, one ninety five against Green 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.960 Bay in a bounce back game, one twelve against Denver, 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.040 ninety four again against Tampa Bay. So the two Super 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:23.920 Bowl teams were the only teams that held them under 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.440 one hundred yards to this point. One ninety against Carolina, 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.080 one fifty two against Seattle, and then one twelve against 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:33.000 Las Vegas. Since a trend there. Yeah, they're pretty good 0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:34.479 at running the football and they can do it with 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.840 a committee as well. And when you go back and 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:38.360 watch the film, one of the things I think the 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.720 change is they started using Heineken more under center and 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.160 giving Gibson a little bit more leverage in the background, 0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.640 you know, in the backfield to get going downfield. They 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.080 use a pistol a lot, and I think that is 0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.000 what's changed their running game. You look at the four 0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.640 games that they lost, going it back to the Saints, 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.840 the Chiefs, the Packers, and the Broncos, their running game 0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.640 was just in disarray. I mean, they had some you know, 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.360 artist time runs and things like that. But you go 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:06.040 against those defenses, your offense, Jess, isn't clicking. You're putting 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.680 up thirteen points, ten points. I mean, where your offense 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.040 is sputtering, and even to the point where they've won 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.080 some games, it's not like they're thirty burger ring here, 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.200 forty burger there the rest. Still it's a slow paced offense. 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.080 And even with as great as they are in the run, 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.280 they're one of the worst teams in the NFL in 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:26.560 the red zone. So, you know, some doesn't compute which 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.400 one of these kids are doing their own thing and 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.320 we've got to figure out how to keep them out 0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.800 of the end zone. They are straight up fifty percent 0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.480 in the red zone. That's twenty ninth in the league. 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:40.080 Thin't good. That's not very good? Is it? Not very good? Now? 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.440 With that being said, you mentioned the route runners, and 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.920 that's the thing that also kind of gives me pause 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.560 whenever looking at this matchup, because not only are you 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:51.240 talking about like you said McLaurin, Curtis Samuel, it's almost 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.320 every wide receiver on their roster knows how to route, run, 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.520 knows how to cook in the second level. Is that 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.880 something that the secondary from the Cowboys is going to 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.120 struggle with going into Sunday. I think this is gonna 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:07.320 be a challenging game in terms of playing sound defense 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.920 at the defensive back position under under fourteen yards. So 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:12.800 there's so most of the route tree comes to under 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.560 fourteen yards. It's not a deep threat. It's not a 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.600 deep threat team. This is this is a Hey, these 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:18.280 guys are gonna rout trying to route you up five 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.400 six yards, catch it, get yack yardage, just like you know, 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.800 to Heckim's point, this is a very physical team. These 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.160 guys don't have a problem taking the little five yards 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:26.920 and you know it was like three yards in a cloud. 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.240 It does. They're they're okay with that. They are perfectly 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.160 that they are okay with that. And so you're gonna 0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.800 have to be very sound defensively to not get your 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.239 hips turned to the sideline. These defense these ddbs are 0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:39.960 gonna have to be squared up, keep their hands on 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.480 guys and stay square second. Of all these guys anna 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.720 to tackle, They're gonna have to tackle their buts off 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.120 in the secondary anywhere from the second level to the 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:48.960 secondary I got to tackle. Because the defensive line. I 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.640 think it's gonna have their hands full, even though I 0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.320 think that they can win with leverage upfront. If they don't, 0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.680 if they pull an old school pole and start standing 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.040 up and they're getting moves side to side, it's gonna 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.160 be a problem. Because of how these boys play downhill. 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.600 That name keeps getting dragged through the mud on this show. 0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:08.080 Hey don Terry Poe, No, that's bad, that's bad. Do 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:12.320 you travel digs with mclaura No, No, keep him to 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.520 the side. Yeah you agree, you know, I think you 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:17.800 you switch it up. Maybe not the whole game. I 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.560 think in their situations with them, I think Taylor Heineke, 0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.840 his deep crossing routes are just balls. He can make 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.120 that throw, but I don't think that he can make 0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.320 every throw. I think he struggles. I don't think that 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.000 you why they keep it under fifteen yards For the 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:31.640 most part, I don't believe you ever play these guys 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.400 man to man, I really pla him in the zone. 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:34.720 I think you can play zone with these guys and 0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.880 try to keep your two, keep your box as sound 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.160 as possible. I wouldn't go cover two shot. I don't 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:41.640 want to keep another man down there close to the 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:43.320 line of experience because you know, if they're gonna try 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:47.080 to win this game running dan Quinn cover three defense 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.400 is a sort of deal. But but the thing is, 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.640 like your second I'm again, I'm gonna keep saying this, 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.960 Your second level has to tackle this game. They have 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.440 to tackle. If they don't tackle, if they don't close 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.719 those holes and close those gaps, is gonna be a 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.800 long freaking day. And what's your confidence level that they're 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:12.600 going to go up and tackle. There's the pause because 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:16.239 we have shown repeatedly as of late that we're not 0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.240 as physical as we were the first half of the season, 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.320 and that concerns me. That concerns me, especially against a 0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.960 team like this. That's my worry against this team. Not skills, 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.960 not these guys have so much talent, Not that their 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.800 schemes are so amazing. This is a physical team, right, 0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.680 It's a physical team. The last physical team that we 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:35.480 that we handle was New England won that game. That 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.200 was awesome. Physical though, right gave us problems because of that. 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.080 I would argue the Raiders were physical, the Raiders would 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.520 fly around. They're they're competitive, they're they're super competitive. But 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.440 in terms of in some terms of a strategy, in 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.440 terms of, hey, we are going to just we're coming downhill. 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:49.720 We don't give a dog on at you that you 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.520 know we're coming down here, We're coming downhill at you. 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.040 This is gonna be with one of those type of 0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.719 games and guess what, we'll sprinkling you know, springklin heinee 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.440 every so often. That's why you can't play a whole 0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.640 lot of Man, because he will take off and get 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:01.720 that fire yards and keep those chains moving. Yeah, that's 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.160 the reason why you don't want to play Man against 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.320 these guys. You don't want to give mclauren. You don't 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:09.000 want to give Samuel an opportunity to have extended plays. 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.040 And now all of a sudden, it's harder to stick 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.080 guys longer as a player. You know, duration continues, So 0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:15.560 you want to go ahead and zone it up and 0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.200 make sure that your sound right there in that box man, 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.240 because that's where it's gonna be one or lost. Honey. 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.160 He's not gonna beat you dropping back and throwing the ball. 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.120 He will beat you if you try to play man 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:25.520 to man and you allow him to get out in 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.160 extend plays. And the reason man to man, just just 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.760 elaborating on that reason why man man is such a 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.840 factor is that your dvs will have their back turn 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.360 while he's running towards them. But in this game, one 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.440 of the keys to victory is going to be meeting 0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:43.640 matching their intensitive We can't in weeks past, we've had 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:47.600 a problem with starting slow, and I think even just hey, 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.800 I just feel like we're a little foggy going into 0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.680 this other team is primed and ready to go. This 0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.480 is gonna be a playoff atmosphere in Washington because they 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:59.280 understand what they have at stake here. I just we 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.160 have to make these tackles where you say be physical 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.479 at the latter half or back half of the defense, 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.120 I agree with that. I just believe that you have 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.120 such talent back there that you can mix some of 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.799 these things up. I think he's they tilt their hands 0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:13.239 on a lot of things that they do. They try 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.040 and run a lot of motion, just so that you 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.319 know Heineke knows what he's in. But I believe that's 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.080 where you can confuse them the short routes that they 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.759 are gonna throw digs last year versus Terry McLaurin. If 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.840 you watch The Tape Boys a couple of times, McLaren 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.359 took him to church, and it's just true. For the matter, 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.600 I just think he's so much better now at those 0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:35.160 crossing routes and breaking on crossing routes. But getting that 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.759 pressure up front, I think it's going to make the 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:41.399 difference for Taylor Heineken. Again, he's serviceable. You know, he's 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.319 good enough for you to win with him, but you 0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.120 can also force some mistakes and those mistakes that he 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.600 makes this once he starts getting happy feet, he will 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.640 run because he's an athlete. You know he'll go back 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.319 to what he knows. He's gonna try and run the ball. 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.040 If you force him to do that, and then he 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:55.480 looks up at the last minute and try and get 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.680 rid of the ball, that's where you can get some interceptions. 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.000 I think I completely agree with you because I think 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.520 one riverboat Ron is watching this show and he's gonna 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.960 clip that and send that to Taylor and say, hey, 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.759 here's your here's your motivation. Oh man, man, that's what's 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:14.200 getting you going into more to please use me. No, 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.040 I agree with you completely. I think this is a 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.600 game where you have to be physical from a defensive standpoint, 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.319 and you're gonna have to step up and have some 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.920 guys step up, even though you can't sit back and say, oh, 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.240 our guys are back, let's have some fun now. No, no, no, 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.080 this is a wake up game. You need vander Es, 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.120 you gotta step up. Neil has to step up. Curse 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.080 is gonna have to tackle at that level as well. 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.160 He doesn't have a tie, big tight end to worry about. Now, 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:40.680 his mostly his responsibility of this game. Off, lease elaborate 0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.600 why fifty five? Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.440 wait wait wait wait, we'll come back here. Let's do 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.719 it when we come back. 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See more, Do more, or on 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:26.680 Talking Cowboys Isaiah stand back with these gorgeous l lenses. 0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.200 Those are awesome. I can see everything with those. Hey, 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.120 now that Rob's not here, three one hundred percent of 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:36.800 the show has been taken care of by at some point. Wow. Yeah, 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:42.120 isn't that fun? Is awesome? Yeah? Yeah, there are friends 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:43.920 over there. We need to get robbed there. I need 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.479 to just kidnap him and take him there at some point. 0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.759 A busy man. He's a busy man. I get it. 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:55.400 Kicking and screaming, yo, little Will Ferrell action awesome. Yeah, no, 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.879 that would be good. That'd be good. Final segment here 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.400 of talking Cowboys heck My Harris and Isaiah's stand back 0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.520 Chris Beam in the back, and we left it on 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:09.640 a cliffhanger, going into the cliffhanger of asking who needs 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.760 to step up against the Cowboys or excuse me, against 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:16.920 the Washington offense. From that Cowboys defense, there's there is 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:20.480 an a mention of a number fifty five and maybe 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.799 a forty two. Who out of those guys needs to 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:27.040 step up more? Fifty five? Why he's supposed to be 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:31.400 our big physical linebacker, supposed to be our big physical linebacker. 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.600 And I'm not in the business of calling anybody out. 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.960 But I feel as if he is not upholding the 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.960 ask and the responsibility that they have placed on him 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.160 this year. But that's a call out. Yeah, I mean, 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.640 I mean, I mean, I just go up what I see. 0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.319 I mean, I just call how I see it, umtat 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.680 stats aside. I just I see him retreating more than 0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.960 I see him attacking. The there's a reason why they 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.040 didn't re up him, and it's showing up. It's showing 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:00.919 up is a reason why they didn't. They didn't grab 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:02.799 that at that fifth year or whatever it is. It 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.080 is showing up last game in particular, watching him, I'm like, 0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:10.080 come downhill, please, come downhill. We need you at the 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.239 second level to be physical. Who else is going to 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.239 be physic about that second level aside from Mica. Again, 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.640 that's why I say, if MICA's not there, we got 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.759 a freaking problem, because nobody is stepping up to be 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.440 physical at that second level. There is nobody that you 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.279 circle on that on on the roster right now. That's 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.640 as you say, he's gonna he gonna bush you in 0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.680 your mouth, maybe curse. That's that's that's third level. But yeah, 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.520 second level, you know, like so like that's what I'm saying. 0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.560 At that second level, who are you circling to say, 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.279 we got to worry about this dude? Or even guess what, 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.520 you can't just go you can't just go lock up 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.320 with him because you can run him to the sideline 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.040 like he's not being what we need him to be 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.480 and we and we have to figure that out because 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.879 as you guys know, as we go further and further 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.640 in this season and hopefully into the playoffs, teams are 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.960 going to come downhill and they will double up. They 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.120 will combo block on your on your on your nose 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.919 guard and your dtackles and work up to that next level. 0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.680 And if that person doesn't want the smoke, there's gonna 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.560 be big, big holes leading up to the K k 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.040 Z and all this everybody else in that third level. No, 0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:09.960 that's a that's a great point. I just wanted to 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.560 make sure that you elaborated on that when you left 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.120 off of the second piece there, because you know, last 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:21.720 game Laton had one tackle, Yeah, and that linebacker, yeah, 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.359 that's one tackle. And the stats she's show, I mean, 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.160 it's like the proof is there. And then they say, 0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.400 and this scot don't lie you what you're talking about, 0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:30.480 is him catching at the line of scrimmage? Are you're 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:35.400 not scraping and feeling hole? Yeah, And it's weird to 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.160 hear to think about Laton Vanderesh and that to that 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.520 aspect because you have to think about him as a rookie. 0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.320 He was All Pro as a rookie and his whole 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.359 game was being physical. Now, I don't know if if 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.879 he's if he's injured. We hadn't heard about it any 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.719 any of that. He's out there, but we need him, 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.040 especially specifically in this game, to pick up the pace 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.600 and be physical at the line of scrimmage. Also, Ken 0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.960 O'Neil Neil has been making some tackles. He's been doing 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.520 some really good things in pass coverage, but at the 0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:04.920 line of scrimmage, I think he gets washed out and 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.560 he tries to run around block and I think that 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.600 gets him in trouble because he's a little bit lighter 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.840 of of a linebacker. But going back to Curse, I 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:14.799 think there have been times where Curses playing a lot 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.520 closer to the line of scrimmage than we even give 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:21.520 credit for because he has acted because our linebackers because 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:26.319 that physicality, you know, but he's just operated. He's operated 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.160 in that way, and that's where a lot of I 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.520 think when teams have had success versus us in the 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.719 running game, going back to the Denver game, you could 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.000 just see it. Man, They're they're gashing us, and those 0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.080 you know, those two phases of being able to find 0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:40.200 the two way go and get on the back side. 0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.279 We just hadn't had a defender that could stop it 0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:44.880 or at least stimy that block. And that's my concern 0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:46.880 with this game, and I'm gonna keep saying it because 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.600 where these guys can be dangerous is what our guys 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.160 are doing right now. They're gonna combo block. Guys are 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.239 gonna try to wash one side of the of the 0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.759 line one direction. They're gonna leave one guy free. They're 0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.960 gonna run somebody back, try to take his knees out 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.520 on the back end. So d Law, if Gregory comes back, 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.359 your knees are gonna you better get your hands down, 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.239 he says. They say, they're just shooting straight at your 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.359 knees and they're gonna clear you out. So now there's 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.920 a gaping hole right there. And if your guys at 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.000 the second level linebackers want to run around blocks, and 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.200 want to avoid lineman leaving. You are literally doing what 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.520 they want you to do, and there we will be 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.399 in a world of trouble, whole heap of trouble if 0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.200 these guys don't come down and be physical. I'm just saying, 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.640 I'm just telling you how it is. I've seen it 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.880 too many times. So are the linebackers getting a pass 0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.319 this year? From a general standpoint, I know we're really 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.520 diving into it right now, but from a Cowboys Nation standpoint, 0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:38.319 I feel like there's not as much heat on the 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.040 linebackers now that Jalen Smith's not a part of that group. 0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:45.200 Is that because just from a tag standpoint, late or 0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.759 not late manner, Michael Parsons is categorized as a linebacker. 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.000 But outside of Michael Parsons, the linebackers have not played 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:54.640 exceptionally Well, That's why I brought up the point. I said, 0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:56.879 if you take Mica out the picture, which I hope 0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:01.839 never happens, what do you have. No, that's a great point, um, 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.319 And going back to the you know, just watching film 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.160 and watching the Carolina game and with that Jalen played 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.239 in and you could tell the differences in speed from 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.040 my linebacker group I think we've gotten a lot faster 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.279 since then. Um, just the tackling just hadn't been there 0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:17.759 at the line of scrimmag Jar tackles for loss. That's 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.000 where Michael is so much better. And we don't know 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.160 where Michael's gonna line up. So you want to, you 0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.319 wanna you want to, you know, do a critique. Hell, 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.440 you don't know he's gonna be an age at well, 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.640 Michael wants to smoke. Right when you walk up there 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.560 as an office a linement, you look up, you see Michael. 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:32.440 You're like, ooh, if I go up to that next level, 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.520 I gotta bring my big boy draws, even though I 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:36.879 outweigh him by seventy pounds. I gotta bring my big 0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:38.400 boy dress because I know he gonna bust me in 0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.160 my chin. And the mother cats next to him I 0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:43.439 handle them. Yeah, they don't. And then those other cats 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:52.920 don't have the no lateness as big. He's catching, he's catching. 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.239 But that's this is why important, why this game is 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.799 so important, and how Washington has gotten their running game going. 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:02.080 It's really kind of we need to look at how 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.000 we need to get our running game back going. It's 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:07.840 just look one of this game particularly guys like Osa 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:12.359 Diggi Zoor up front, if not Neville Gallimore, but Tristan Hill. 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.640 It's gonna be imperative that our techniques that if they 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:19.160 play sound and they gobble up those blocks to allow 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.000 our linebackers to be able to get to flow and shed. 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:26.080 We hadn't had that a lot because it's been we've 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.600 been interchanging guys. But you know, I don't know that's 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:30.960 gonna be as soon as these guys get back, it's 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.080 gonna be an odd man out on our defensive front. 0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:34.960 I don't know exactly who that's gonna be, but I 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:38.440 don't know if we can have everybody on. Yeah, the 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.600 fact that Brent Urban's not available for the rest of 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.040 the season gives you an extra spot to work with. 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.800 But you're right, I think, especially at the edge rusher spot. 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:48.920 I mean, having all those guys and then Michael Parson's 0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:50.800 rotating in as well, are you really gonna need to 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.520 keep all those edge rushers. Probably not. It's probably not 0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.360 the case. You'll probably have to move somebody down to 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:58.560 the practice Watt squad or put them on waivers so 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.360 their decisions to be mad now really quickly before we 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.160 wrap up I know Chris is gonna get get us 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.719 on time here for a in a second, but most 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.640 surprising piece of the Cowboys defense real quickly. Who has 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.200 it been throughout the course of this season. I mean, 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.000 I'm going to go with the easy one, and that's 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.919 the runt curse, Ye curse all the way across the board. 0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.479 I agree, he's played phenomenal and like we just said, 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:21.640 the ability that he has to come up to the 0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:25.200 line of scrimmage is huge because outside of Michael Parsons, 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.640 the speed might be better at the second level than 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:31.120 it has been in years, but the physicality has not been. 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.040 And that's something we're gonna talk about. And you mentioned 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.920 getting the Cowboys run game jump started. That's what we're 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:40.240 gonna talk about tomorrow, Cowboys offense versus the Washington defense. 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.600 But that's it for us here on this Wednesday edition 0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.400 of Talking Cowboys. For Chris Beam in the back, Isaiah 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.359 stand Back, the Great, heck Ma Harris, and I'm Kyle 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:51.319 Yeoman's We'll see you tomorrow on Talking Cowboys. This has 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.200 been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:55.959 Dallas Cowboys Football Club.