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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys. The Washington's Is Mickey likes the column.
Speaker 1: Mickey said that he does that on purpose, and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's I love it. It's funny. I like
Speaker 1: it a lot. But yeah, Washington football team. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the Washington offense and the Cowboys defense today. But
Speaker 1: we've got plenty to get to here over the Latin
Speaker 1: X forty five minutes. Heck Ma Harrison, Isaiah Stanback, Kyle
Speaker 1: Yeoman's with you. No Rob Phillips today or tomorrow as
Speaker 1: he had some some business to take care of. But
Speaker 1: we will see Rob back sooner rather than later. Is
Speaker 1: hopefully it would be a god came a friend. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. You're sitting in the chair, you're filling
Speaker 1: the shoes, feeling right now. He's missing his rub like
Speaker 1: I'm on an island on the island, Rob p island.
Speaker 1: I'm on an island by myself on that side of
Speaker 1: the table. Oh man, We've got a lot to get to. No,
Speaker 1: not a ton of news and notes. Usually we start
Speaker 1: this show with news and notes with Rob, but there's
Speaker 1: not a ton to to go with, especially since yesterday,
Speaker 1: with it being a long week, was one of the
Speaker 1: more quiet tuesdays you've had and quite some time. Most
Speaker 1: of the news is going to rain down tomorrow or
Speaker 1: at least today, as the Cowboys do get back on
Speaker 1: the practice field today, and then they'll get into kind
Speaker 1: of the injury reports and things of the sort. Is
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory are Neville Gallimore? Are those two guys going
Speaker 1: to be back heading into this Washington matchup? But you guys,
Speaker 1: are you guys a little nervous about this matchup at all? Yep?
Speaker 1: Why is that I think this thing is better than
Speaker 1: I First, first of all, it is a divisional wall,
Speaker 1: right is his divisional little competition on and then second
Speaker 1: of all, these guys are these guys are. They're sneaky good.
Speaker 1: They're sneaky good, and it's I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a very competitive game. I think the areas that they're
Speaker 1: strong end we're still trying to figure out. And you know,
Speaker 1: we need I think we need to be hidden on
Speaker 1: all cylinders, much like last week, in order to pull
Speaker 1: this one out. What are some of those areas that
Speaker 1: they're strong end? As I dive more into the running scheme,
Speaker 1: I know yesterday I talked about their individual runners in
Speaker 1: terms of Gibson and the Kissick, but I think their
Speaker 1: running scheme is actually pretty sneaky as well. I think
Speaker 1: that they run, they run a lot of counters, a
Speaker 1: lot of powers, a lot of pulling, a lot of
Speaker 1: guards leaving the defensive end backside. And I think that
Speaker 1: we just have not enforced our wheel on the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage yet. And I think that against this running scheme,
Speaker 1: you have to be able to do that. So we
Speaker 1: definitely need a defensive line presence and the linebackers are
Speaker 1: gonna have at the second level, are gonna have to to
Speaker 1: be very aggressive. Yeah. I think they've gone on a
Speaker 1: winning streak and some of the teams that they've beat
Speaker 1: obviously have beat you. So when you start doing a comparison,
Speaker 1: how do we size up? You start looking at the
Speaker 1: games that you lost in the games that they won.
Speaker 1: What did they do? I mean? And so I go
Speaker 1: back and I watched the Tampa tape and to me,
Speaker 1: I just felt like Tampa walked in and underestimated them. Man.
Speaker 1: And just like with any team, if you underestimate them
Speaker 1: and you give them life and Tom Brady throws a
Speaker 1: couple of interceptions on their side of the field, and
Speaker 1: you give them momentum, and they are hard to stop
Speaker 1: once they get momentum, especially at home. So M Taylor
Speaker 1: Heineke to me, is serviceable. These has been an overachiever
Speaker 1: for most of his career. I think the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: to put themselves in a position defensively to create turnovers.
Speaker 1: This is that game where you have to create turnovers.
Speaker 1: Enforced mistakes on this team, but nothing about them per
Speaker 1: se makes me nervous. I think if you stick to
Speaker 1: the ball that you've been playing here. Let's you start
Speaker 1: from last week to this week, all right, but just
Speaker 1: some of the great things that you've done defensively, I
Speaker 1: think this is this is a game that you win,
Speaker 1: and you can win it big. I think that's the
Speaker 1: matchup that's going to win you this game. It's your
Speaker 1: defense over your offense. It's gonna be a lot like
Speaker 1: last week, and the offense has an opportunity here to
Speaker 1: figure things out. They're gonna get pressured by guys like
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen and the guys on that Washington defense, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott will be under pressure. But this I feel like
Speaker 1: this is a game where the Dallas defense can really
Speaker 1: take over. Despite some of the inconsistencies in the run
Speaker 1: game and kind of like what you were talking about.
Speaker 1: Against teams that Washington has been successful against, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have not necessarily been that sucessful against them here Over
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks during that four game win streak,
Speaker 1: two of those wins against teams that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: lost to the Las Vegas Raiders, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They
Speaker 1: beat the Carolina Panthers by a single score, and then
Speaker 1: they beat the lowly Seahawks by just two. It was
Speaker 1: seventeen fifteen. The final score, same score of the Raiders
Speaker 1: game too, the lowly the lowly Sea. Man. Just do
Speaker 1: some money on your team. Man. Not good right now.
Speaker 1: The engine they're yeah, they're not very good. But Washington
Speaker 1: certainly gave them a game, or at least Seattle Gabe
Speaker 1: Washington a game. But the final kind of right along
Speaker 1: the lines of the Cowboys final five games of the
Speaker 1: regular season. Cowboys play four of those five against divisional foes.
Speaker 1: All five of Washington's final games are against the NFC East.
Speaker 1: It's Dallas Philly, Dallas Philly, and then New York to
Speaker 1: end it out. So that's really odd too much different, No, no,
Speaker 1: because we've got, of course Washington than the Giants. Then
Speaker 1: back to Washington's the matchmakers wanted it to come down
Speaker 1: to December, right, That's what they wanted, at least they
Speaker 1: can make it at a little less honest right now.
Speaker 1: They wanted it to be in your face obvious that
Speaker 1: we want December to be the month that everybody is
Speaker 1: scratching the claw and trying to get those last little
Speaker 1: positions to go to the playoffs. So it's gonna be interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm glad you say that because this
Speaker 1: is such a crucial game, and we talked about it
Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday. Is how if you win the game,
Speaker 1: it's a three game lead, lose it, it's a one
Speaker 1: game lead, a full two game swing, as most divisional
Speaker 1: games are, but at this point in the season, that
Speaker 1: makes this game that much more important. What is the
Speaker 1: temperature of this locker room right now? Because you had
Speaker 1: the three or four losses, you were able to get
Speaker 1: back on track, but it was still sloppy at times
Speaker 1: against the New Orleans Saints. So what do you feel
Speaker 1: like this locker room? Confidence wise? Where do you feel
Speaker 1: like they're at at the moment, because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to gage. I mean I would,
Speaker 1: I would honestly say that I think their confidence has
Speaker 1: to be high, that they have to feel good about
Speaker 1: where they are right now. They're getting a lot of
Speaker 1: people back. They were able to get Amark Cooper back,
Speaker 1: and you saw just with Man and he was more
Speaker 1: of a decoy a week than anything. But I think offensively,
Speaker 1: they've got to feel good about where they were. They've
Speaker 1: got to feel good about, you know, some of the
Speaker 1: and I keep using this we're momentum. But when they
Speaker 1: were going into that six game winning streak, some of
Speaker 1: the things that were clicking for them offensively and getting
Speaker 1: guys back healthy, like Michael Gallup. Defensively, I think these
Speaker 1: turnovers in sacks and pressures that they've been getting on
Speaker 1: the quarterback, they've got to feel good about that too.
Speaker 1: So going into December, are going against your division. You
Speaker 1: got to look at this like you're oh and zero
Speaker 1: and zero. This is a whole other thing with the
Speaker 1: division folds that you go against, and you got to
Speaker 1: try and squeak out. You gotta get as many of
Speaker 1: these wins and go into the playoffs with that momentum
Speaker 1: and feeling as good as about yourself as you can.
Speaker 1: You know. I just I just think right now, as
Speaker 1: you say temperature, I think they should be feeling really
Speaker 1: good about themselves right now. Good. I think they should
Speaker 1: be just above luke warm, just above Luke warrem not
Speaker 1: not not hot because you're still eating form. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're eating for the record. The record, of mean doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything. The record the record doesn't mean anything to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the stats records all that Jazz's cool.
Speaker 1: When you start going against opponents like this at this
Speaker 1: time of the year, that stuff really doesn't matter. It
Speaker 1: really comes down to who's gonna ball out. It comes
Speaker 1: down to how effective are you going to be against
Speaker 1: your opponent? Right, the record or the Washington is not
Speaker 1: going to care what their record is when they when
Speaker 1: they step out that field, neither as Dallas. It's going
Speaker 1: to be all about who can execute. And you know,
Speaker 1: these guys have kind of they whipped our tails last year.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's a different year. Obviously we didn't
Speaker 1: have DAK and all the other things that we could
Speaker 1: throw in there. At the end of the day, the
Speaker 1: areas that we were weak last year we still haven't
Speaker 1: necessarily shared up. So that raises concerned for me, and
Speaker 1: I think that for them has to be some form
Speaker 1: of a question mark until they can prove that they
Speaker 1: that they've solidified that. When you say the record doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: and what context are you saying that going up against
Speaker 1: the division are your division foe? Are you just saying
Speaker 1: saying once you step on the field, once you step
Speaker 1: on the film, mean, yeah, we can talk about records
Speaker 1: and all that jazz as you approach the game, and hey,
Speaker 1: what happens if you lose, what happens if you win.
Speaker 1: Once you step on the field, you're not worried about
Speaker 1: your record. You're not You're really not concerned about your
Speaker 1: You're worried about Hey, we need to take care of
Speaker 1: these cats, regardless of what the outcome of game is.
Speaker 1: We need to go hire and handle our business. Yeah no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think the ball kick is kicking
Speaker 1: off and Dak is saying, oh, we're eight and four.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like that. As far as the what's
Speaker 1: created this whole season, if there was a narrative to
Speaker 1: this season from where they were just going into Tampa
Speaker 1: and the team that you thought that they were going
Speaker 1: to be to what they are right now. Defensively, I
Speaker 1: think you would agree that this is a different team
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty one and who they were in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no no, no question at all. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a question at all. But I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: in terms of the temperature. I don't think that you
Speaker 1: can be hot when you have question marks. You can't
Speaker 1: be hot when you have question marks. They in my head,
Speaker 1: if if I'm hot, passing games on point, running games
Speaker 1: on point run defense, is on point passing to kind
Speaker 1: of how the Cowboys were in the six game wins. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it felt like everything was going what team is what?
Speaker 1: What team checks all those boxes for you? Nobody. I
Speaker 1: don't feel anybody can say that they're hotten. No, oh okay,
Speaker 1: I don't feel anybody can say that this year's being England.
Speaker 1: Maybe right now New England. New England's rolling. But even them,
Speaker 1: they're not hot, you know, in terms of the passing,
Speaker 1: and they can run the ball on you all day long, um,
Speaker 1: and they're figuring things out passing wise. That we knew
Speaker 1: that they were going to continually get better as that
Speaker 1: quarterback continue to got get more reps and get more confidence.
Speaker 1: But I don't, I can't. I don't feel as if.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're anywhere near the confidence level that
Speaker 1: we were first first part of the season. No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't feel that confidence. I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 1: I don't feel that same sense of security. I feel
Speaker 1: like we're going to the games now, and I feel
Speaker 1: like what's going to happen? I don't, you know. I
Speaker 1: feel like before, you know, mid season, we felt like,
Speaker 1: oh we go out there and just just smack up anybody.
Speaker 1: I don't have that same vibe, that same energy right now.
Speaker 1: Why is that the case? Because I mean the inconsistency,
Speaker 1: that's that. The inconsistency is that on the the offense?
Speaker 1: Is that on the defense? Is that? Is there someone
Speaker 1: specific blamers that the entire team? And I think it's
Speaker 1: in every aspect. There's been times and this is every team,
Speaker 1: right but especially right now. We had a lot of
Speaker 1: concerns about the specials. A lot of people have a
Speaker 1: lot of concerns about the special teams. We guess with
Speaker 1: that's shirt up, that's getting a lot better. Now you
Speaker 1: start talking about Kellen Moore was in his bag. First
Speaker 1: part of the year, offense was hidden on all cylinders
Speaker 1: and guess what. Then we had some injuries, right, some
Speaker 1: receivers went down. Then you know now we're running big
Speaker 1: game is slim to none. The passing game kind of
Speaker 1: fell off because Dad came out the calf injury. He
Speaker 1: wasn't and he hasn't been as accurate since then. So
Speaker 1: there's question marks around the past, which is definitely question
Speaker 1: marks around around the run. There's question marks about protection
Speaker 1: right now, there's question marks are kick Can we can
Speaker 1: we stop a running a running team that's going to
Speaker 1: be adamant about the run because the last two times
Speaker 1: we faced gifts and he's had one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: plush yards. Can we stop that? He's going to be
Speaker 1: confident coming in here passingwise, defensively, okay, can our defensive
Speaker 1: backs handle these guys? I think we're pretty good on
Speaker 1: that regard. But there's there's more question marks than there
Speaker 1: are answers. Now, there's hope. There's a ton of hope
Speaker 1: guys coming back there. Most of the conversation around Cowboys
Speaker 1: right now is what's going to happen when our guys
Speaker 1: come back, not necessarily what is actually taking place on
Speaker 1: the field? What is this? What is the saying in
Speaker 1: the NFL? Though? Hope is not a strategy, it's definitely
Speaker 1: not now. And I appreciate that. I guess from the
Speaker 1: standpoint when I asked who is and you say no,
Speaker 1: one is, then hell, you're not judging based off of
Speaker 1: a curve because nobody's actually getting that. Watched the Chris
Speaker 1: Bapple from you. I just feel as though, you know, look,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with that, and I think that
Speaker 1: you know, as far as your assessment of the entire
Speaker 1: league and the way that teams are playing, like everybody's
Speaker 1: looking to hit stride, even Tampa with the division champs
Speaker 1: where they were last year, this time they were like, man,
Speaker 1: everybody was saying that they're going to super Bowl. That
Speaker 1: was a bad pick up by Tampa. I just believe
Speaker 1: that there are some things that you're starting to see
Speaker 1: from your team, and you can look at the cause
Speaker 1: and effect from the injuries that you just talked about.
Speaker 1: Dak battle through that Saints game and was able to
Speaker 1: complete some passes and get guys open. Seeing Michael Gallaback
Speaker 1: on the field with his other two of me goos,
Speaker 1: you to see how things are going alone. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that they're red hot right now, not at all,
Speaker 1: but I think the and it's not even a hope,
Speaker 1: it's just that you're getting key guys back that can
Speaker 1: help you defensively, and you see how Almark Cooper impacts
Speaker 1: the offense. Is that something that can happen this week? Though?
Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily talking about Gallimore and Gregory because
Speaker 1: we still are at this point unsure whether or not
Speaker 1: they will be available, But now that Cooper has been
Speaker 1: limited in at least one game, and he's back and
Speaker 1: hopefully the ten days helps him out. Maybe ten days
Speaker 1: helps out Ezekiel Elliott. Do you expect that to click
Speaker 1: now or do you expect it to click two or
Speaker 1: three weeks down the road when they get into a
Speaker 1: little bit more opportunity to have some snaps and some continuity. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope it's not a strategy, but but I hope
Speaker 1: it's now. But yeah, you know, that's what I wanted
Speaker 1: to be. You would like to think that if you
Speaker 1: do from where Randy Gregory left off. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was having Pro Bowl caliber reps. You were saying like, look, man,
Speaker 1: if he could keep this up all year, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not. Only is he gonna get the bag, He's
Speaker 1: gonna get the big bag according to the way that
Speaker 1: he's playing. The same with you know, we were talking
Speaker 1: about Amark Cooper and can Gallop be a number one
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. Look, those questions were answered as well.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, Kyle, look where you're getting the
Speaker 1: guys that you need to make the run. It'd be
Speaker 1: different if you were going into this and all of
Speaker 1: your guys were hurt and then you'd be talking from
Speaker 1: a whole other perspective on what this team could be.
Speaker 1: I just think that right now is solid. We look solid.
Speaker 1: I feel solid about where we're going into December. And again,
Speaker 1: I don't know what Nevill Gallimore is gonna bring. He
Speaker 1: hadn't been on the field all year exactly right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know what Tristan Hill can bring
Speaker 1: because we've seen the little sample size from him, So
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I felt bad about losing Urban
Speaker 1: because we know that we have to control the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and that's where we've been getting hit the most.
Speaker 1: I worry about Gibson. I think look his physicality at
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two music. That was an embarrassment to see
Speaker 1: the way that he ran over our guys last year.
Speaker 1: I just think that physically, speed wise, our defense is
Speaker 1: in a completely different zone. I just don't see them
Speaker 1: showing up and beating the brakes off of us like
Speaker 1: you know they did last year. Yeah. I honestly just
Speaker 1: feel that most of the confidence right now around at
Speaker 1: he's revolving around the Dallas' defense comes around one person, Mica,
Speaker 1: and if that person hopefully never ever, nothing ever, happens
Speaker 1: to him. But if that person is knocked on some wood,
Speaker 1: if that person is not on the field, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about your defense? I mean, I still guys
Speaker 1: have to step up. I understand that guys have to
Speaker 1: step up, But how do you feel about your defense
Speaker 1: not there? I feel better now than I would have
Speaker 1: two weeks ago about that defense because of the law,
Speaker 1: because of guys coming back, yes, and because of Jeron Curse.
Speaker 1: It's what you built your team for in the training
Speaker 1: in training camp. Yeah, and Curse is stepped up and
Speaker 1: played exceptionally well. And we're gonna ask a question later
Speaker 1: on about who's been the most surprising part of the defense,
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming Curse is going to be in that conversation.
Speaker 1: But the whole point of what you did in the
Speaker 1: off season though, all the roster building, all that acquisition,
Speaker 1: all the Steven Jones twenty four seven deal of Hey,
Speaker 1: it's a twenty four seven business of building a roster.
Speaker 1: They built it to have depth. Sure, the top end
Speaker 1: talent is there, and when you don't have that top
Speaker 1: end talent, you're gonna see holes. That's what DeMarcus Lawrence left,
Speaker 1: That's what Randy Gregory has left. That's what if Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons is not available, we'll leave on that defense. Luckily
Speaker 1: that's not the case at the point moment, and all
Speaker 1: of that top end talent is starting to get back
Speaker 1: and healthy. You're not supposed to win games or at
Speaker 1: least be a Super Bowl contender if your top end
Speaker 1: talent's not available, and going to Hope is not a strategy.
Speaker 1: But what you're saying is, now that you're getting that
Speaker 1: top end talent back, there's no reason that sudn't shouldn't
Speaker 1: start clicking here over the next couple weeks. And think
Speaker 1: about the watching a football team they lose Chase Young
Speaker 1: and then they go on a winning play better, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's almost weird to even think about
Speaker 1: or consider the rookie of the year last year that
Speaker 1: has seven and a half sacks and now he's gone
Speaker 1: and your defense is playing better. I where you guys
Speaker 1: have to step up, And that all comes from the
Speaker 1: leadership at the top. We talk about culture, We talk
Speaker 1: about Dan Quinn's effect on this defense, and I don't
Speaker 1: think of it any other way, especially when I see
Speaker 1: it being played out on other teams. At least one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards rushing in each of the last
Speaker 1: two games for Antonio Gibson and this Washington football team offense.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we talk about the football team,
Speaker 1: what do they bring from a strength standpoint on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football, and how to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: counter it on defense when we come back with more
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Speaker 1: that brick in his back pocket. Yeah, on a table,
Speaker 1: messing up his back. Now he's walking around the house
Speaker 1: creaking the back. Would just help him declutter that thing. Man,
Speaker 1: just take one thing out of day Rob with his
Speaker 1: birth certificates in that thing, his house keys and jumper cables. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's a dad wallet right there now. Now we talked
Speaker 1: about yesterday. I'm hoping he's tuning out at this point.
Speaker 1: But we were gonna get him a wallet for Christmas
Speaker 1: or we were all going in on that are We're
Speaker 1: gonna get him one of those like sweet ones. Now
Speaker 1: I'm going for the pro shot. I might get him
Speaker 1: a binder. Get him a binder. Cowboys go to the
Speaker 1: back to school aisle and he needs one. He needs
Speaker 1: one of those Velcrow ones that once it starts to
Speaker 1: get ugly, the velcrow won't go back. Then that'll be
Speaker 1: the telltale that you just can't keep it no more. Bro,
Speaker 1: when's the last time you had a velcro wall. It's
Speaker 1: been ages. It's about to say, I haven't had one,
Speaker 1: and I don't think I ever had one middle school
Speaker 1: probably Yeah, I was thinking like middle school first fifth
Speaker 1: grade had put in a wallet. Stop. It hit him
Speaker 1: with all I did. You guys are so privileged. Let
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I want to you need I think we
Speaker 1: need to make him sleek and get him the wallet
Speaker 1: that goes on the back of the phone. There's don't
Speaker 1: think so. Rob has trust issues. Anybody that has that
Speaker 1: kind of wallets legit trust issues. He's packing it all in, Bro,
Speaker 1: he does, I might forget something, never knows. You get
Speaker 1: one for his phone cover and it's like you can't
Speaker 1: lift up his phone anymore. Uh. Chris in the in
Speaker 1: the Break brought up a really good point that no
Speaker 1: team or there's only been two teams that that have
Speaker 1: swept the NFC East in the last what twenty years, Chris,
Speaker 1: and more than that, more than that then and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys of course would have to sweep the NFC East
Speaker 1: by winning four of their last five. The only one
Speaker 1: that would not be there would be the Cardinals, and
Speaker 1: then the Washington football team is on. He played one
Speaker 1: divisional game and they last five are all against the
Speaker 1: NFC East. Last time the Cowboys did it was in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight back in the Dude. That surprises me
Speaker 1: when I saw that, because while think about it, how
Speaker 1: many Super Bowls the Cowboys won in the nineties and
Speaker 1: they never swept the division at any point throughout those runs. Nope, Wow,
Speaker 1: just tell you how contentious those those meetings were. A boy, Buddy, Ryan,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, Philly. Oh, you don't have any coaching rivalries
Speaker 1: like that anymore. Maybe you do now and Buffalo and
Speaker 1: those guys don't like each other. That coach was bothered
Speaker 1: by what Bill did. Yeah, Buffalo in New eng Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's there's coaching rivalries, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of turnover and some of the big brands lately
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I think it needs to kind
Speaker 1: of get to that point. I feel like Andy Reid
Speaker 1: is probably one of those guys that's starting to solidify
Speaker 1: himself with the Chiefs, but before then, it was the
Speaker 1: turnover from him going to the Eagles to the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys haven't had a stable decision since,
Speaker 1: I guess, Garrett, but there's there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: that I guess play into that. But I bet you
Speaker 1: it comes back. McCarthy takes a swing at Riverboat run.
Speaker 1: Not gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen. That'd be fun though.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this run game. Gibson and
Speaker 1: company have had their fair share of success against the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense the last couple of seasons, most notably last year,
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys were just dominated in two games against
Speaker 1: the Washington football team, both on Thanksgiving forty one to sixteen,
Speaker 1: and then back in week what was it eight of
Speaker 1: the season, seven of the season and it was twenty
Speaker 1: five to three at FedEx Field. They go back out
Speaker 1: to Maryland for this one, and now they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to face Gibson and possibly J. D. McKissick back there
Speaker 1: as well, another tandem backfield that's been pretty good this year,
Speaker 1: but Gibson is definitely the main star of that. Isaiah.
Speaker 1: When you look at the film, what scares you the
Speaker 1: most about what those tailbacks and what that running game
Speaker 1: can do against the Cowboys upfront. Their running scheme is
Speaker 1: set up for big place. It's where you down, where
Speaker 1: you're down, if you're out of if you choose wrong
Speaker 1: in terms of your your leverage on the defensive line,
Speaker 1: a big play is right there ready to happen. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not a downhill. Hey, we're shooting this one
Speaker 1: gap type of offense. These guys are literally running a
Speaker 1: zone scheme and they're leaving the backside defensive end free.
Speaker 1: They're running tight ends on the backside, receivers to cut
Speaker 1: off the backside, and there's these big, gaping holes that
Speaker 1: present themselves, and it takes one cut to tear in
Speaker 1: something that should be two or three yards into something
Speaker 1: that's a fifty yard play. And I think that they
Speaker 1: have the patients to just chip away, chip away and
Speaker 1: wait for that big opportunity. And hopefully that doesn't occur obviously,
Speaker 1: but I think that that's the way that this offense
Speaker 1: is set up. And then with Heineke, he's gaining confidence,
Speaker 1: he's really gaining confidence and allowing that run game to
Speaker 1: set up and really set up their play action because
Speaker 1: all their run plays they have a route off of
Speaker 1: their run plays. Every single run play that they have,
Speaker 1: whether it's a counter, whether there's a power or there's
Speaker 1: a regular zone, whether it's a RPO, they have a
Speaker 1: pass a passing option off of it, and they're really
Speaker 1: just setting you up. It reminds me of old school
Speaker 1: West Coast offense, where it's like, hey, we hand the
Speaker 1: ball off, but if you don't respect this backside, you know,
Speaker 1: they we'll throw this thing, we'll boot out of it.
Speaker 1: And he has the ability to obviously get out on
Speaker 1: the edge and create some issues as well, especially with
Speaker 1: both of their route runners back now. Now, I saw
Speaker 1: that too, and when I watched the running game, I
Speaker 1: try and watch it from the end zone copy, and
Speaker 1: what I saw from Gibson is they the linemen give
Speaker 1: him a two way go. You know, if it's not there,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's on the backside and the way
Speaker 1: you have to read and respect it from an RPO standpoint,
Speaker 1: it gives him that you have to close off all
Speaker 1: those options. And you know, I was run Rivera is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite was one of my favorite Bears.
Speaker 1: Loved him as a linebacker defensive coordinator for the Chargers. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, just Chargers Bears. Everywhere he's been, he's had success.
Speaker 1: Even with the Carolina Panthers, you knew that that was
Speaker 1: what their formula was gonna be. They're gonna play physical
Speaker 1: defense with Luke Keikley and they're gonna run the ball
Speaker 1: right and the same thing applies here for Washington. They
Speaker 1: are gonna play physical upfront, try and win the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, but they want to beat you into submission
Speaker 1: offensive I just think that their offensive line, there's going
Speaker 1: to be some opportunities for us. I think we have
Speaker 1: to put pressure on them every week. We're gonna say this,
Speaker 1: you gotta win the line of scrimmage. Hell, everybody in
Speaker 1: the league is saying the same thing, win the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. But it's going to be important for us,
Speaker 1: especially with Gibson because of the kind of wiggle that
Speaker 1: he has. He's talking about Gibson's patience. He really is.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not one of those guys that tries
Speaker 1: to hit the hole too fast before it's open. He's
Speaker 1: really trying to find his way and read his blocks,
Speaker 1: and he does a good job of doing that. I
Speaker 1: think our ability to put pressure on these guys up
Speaker 1: front and close those running lanes down. It's going to
Speaker 1: be important for us to just hold these guys off
Speaker 1: because if they are able to establish any part of
Speaker 1: their running game, everything else is going to start to
Speaker 1: open up. Now. I guess fortunately for us, we don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about the tight end aspect of it,
Speaker 1: but they still have some guys on the outside man,
Speaker 1: and look, Terry McLaurin is a guy that you know,
Speaker 1: but DeAndre Carter, DeAndre Carter, you have to watch him
Speaker 1: because we've struggled versus. He's the prototypical guy that gives
Speaker 1: us problems. Short, speedy, and can work into space. The
Speaker 1: other thing, man, is the last thing about Taylor Heineke.
Speaker 1: He's feisty man. He's a feisty guy. He's gonna keep scrapping.
Speaker 1: And just like most quarterbacks, if you give you give
Speaker 1: me a phenomenal defense and a serviceable quarterback, you can
Speaker 1: win some games. And that formula still works in the NFL,
Speaker 1: especially when you can run the football. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it opens everything up. And that's how Taylor Heinekes still
Speaker 1: won football games is because the running game has opened
Speaker 1: things up. I'm gonna go back to Week four, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna read off the running totals from Washington as a
Speaker 1: team since this week four. This is pretty incredible. They're
Speaker 1: still ranked ninth in the NFL one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: four yards per game. But this is what they've done lately.
Speaker 1: After kind of a pitter pattering to start the year,
Speaker 1: one twenty two versus Atlanta, one thirty one versus New Orleans,
Speaker 1: they only had ninety four against Kansas City. Kansas City
Speaker 1: kind of shut them down, one ninety five against Green
Speaker 1: Bay in a bounce back game, one twelve against Denver,
Speaker 1: ninety four again against Tampa Bay. So the two Super
Speaker 1: Bowl teams were the only teams that held them under
Speaker 1: one hundred yards to this point. One ninety against Carolina,
Speaker 1: one fifty two against Seattle, and then one twelve against
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Since a trend there. Yeah, they're pretty good
Speaker 1: at running the football and they can do it with
Speaker 1: a committee as well. And when you go back and
Speaker 1: watch the film, one of the things I think the
Speaker 1: change is they started using Heineken more under center and
Speaker 1: giving Gibson a little bit more leverage in the background,
Speaker 1: you know, in the backfield to get going downfield. They
Speaker 1: use a pistol a lot, and I think that is
Speaker 1: what's changed their running game. You look at the four
Speaker 1: games that they lost, going it back to the Saints,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Packers, and the Broncos, their running game
Speaker 1: was just in disarray. I mean, they had some you know,
Speaker 1: artist time runs and things like that. But you go
Speaker 1: against those defenses, your offense, Jess, isn't clicking. You're putting
Speaker 1: up thirteen points, ten points. I mean, where your offense
Speaker 1: is sputtering, and even to the point where they've won
Speaker 1: some games, it's not like they're thirty burger ring here,
Speaker 1: forty burger there the rest. Still it's a slow paced offense.
Speaker 1: And even with as great as they are in the run,
Speaker 1: they're one of the worst teams in the NFL in
Speaker 1: the red zone. So, you know, some doesn't compute which
Speaker 1: one of these kids are doing their own thing and
Speaker 1: we've got to figure out how to keep them out
Speaker 1: of the end zone. They are straight up fifty percent
Speaker 1: in the red zone. That's twenty ninth in the league.
Speaker 1: Thin't good. That's not very good? Is it? Not very good? Now?
Speaker 1: With that being said, you mentioned the route runners, and
Speaker 1: that's the thing that also kind of gives me pause
Speaker 1: whenever looking at this matchup, because not only are you
Speaker 1: talking about like you said McLaurin, Curtis Samuel, it's almost
Speaker 1: every wide receiver on their roster knows how to route, run,
Speaker 1: knows how to cook in the second level. Is that
Speaker 1: something that the secondary from the Cowboys is going to
Speaker 1: struggle with going into Sunday. I think this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a challenging game in terms of playing sound defense
Speaker 1: at the defensive back position under under fourteen yards. So
Speaker 1: there's so most of the route tree comes to under
Speaker 1: fourteen yards. It's not a deep threat. It's not a
Speaker 1: deep threat team. This is this is a Hey, these
Speaker 1: guys are gonna rout trying to route you up five
Speaker 1: six yards, catch it, get yack yardage, just like you know,
Speaker 1: to Heckim's point, this is a very physical team. These
Speaker 1: guys don't have a problem taking the little five yards
Speaker 1: and you know it was like three yards in a cloud.
Speaker 1: It does. They're they're okay with that. They are perfectly
Speaker 1: that they are okay with that. And so you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be very sound defensively to not get your
Speaker 1: hips turned to the sideline. These defense these ddbs are
Speaker 1: gonna have to be squared up, keep their hands on
Speaker 1: guys and stay square second. Of all these guys anna
Speaker 1: to tackle, They're gonna have to tackle their buts off
Speaker 1: in the secondary anywhere from the second level to the
Speaker 1: secondary I got to tackle. Because the defensive line. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna have their hands full, even though I
Speaker 1: think that they can win with leverage upfront. If they don't,
Speaker 1: if they pull an old school pole and start standing
Speaker 1: up and they're getting moves side to side, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a problem. Because of how these boys play downhill.
Speaker 1: That name keeps getting dragged through the mud on this show.
Speaker 1: Hey don Terry Poe, No, that's bad, that's bad. Do
Speaker 1: you travel digs with mclaura No, No, keep him to
Speaker 1: the side. Yeah you agree, you know, I think you
Speaker 1: you switch it up. Maybe not the whole game. I
Speaker 1: think in their situations with them, I think Taylor Heineke,
Speaker 1: his deep crossing routes are just balls. He can make
Speaker 1: that throw, but I don't think that he can make
Speaker 1: every throw. I think he struggles. I don't think that
Speaker 1: you why they keep it under fifteen yards For the
Speaker 1: most part, I don't believe you ever play these guys
Speaker 1: man to man, I really pla him in the zone.
Speaker 1: I think you can play zone with these guys and
Speaker 1: try to keep your two, keep your box as sound
Speaker 1: as possible. I wouldn't go cover two shot. I don't
Speaker 1: want to keep another man down there close to the
Speaker 1: line of experience because you know, if they're gonna try
Speaker 1: to win this game running dan Quinn cover three defense
Speaker 1: is a sort of deal. But but the thing is,
Speaker 1: like your second I'm again, I'm gonna keep saying this,
Speaker 1: Your second level has to tackle this game. They have
Speaker 1: to tackle. If they don't tackle, if they don't close
Speaker 1: those holes and close those gaps, is gonna be a
Speaker 1: long freaking day. And what's your confidence level that they're
Speaker 1: going to go up and tackle. There's the pause because
Speaker 1: we have shown repeatedly as of late that we're not
Speaker 1: as physical as we were the first half of the season,
Speaker 1: and that concerns me. That concerns me, especially against a
Speaker 1: team like this. That's my worry against this team. Not skills,
Speaker 1: not these guys have so much talent, Not that their
Speaker 1: schemes are so amazing. This is a physical team, right,
Speaker 1: It's a physical team. The last physical team that we
Speaker 1: that we handle was New England won that game. That
Speaker 1: was awesome. Physical though, right gave us problems because of that.
Speaker 1: I would argue the Raiders were physical, the Raiders would
Speaker 1: fly around. They're they're competitive, they're they're super competitive. But
Speaker 1: in terms of in some terms of a strategy, in
Speaker 1: terms of, hey, we are going to just we're coming downhill.
Speaker 1: We don't give a dog on at you that you
Speaker 1: know we're coming down here, We're coming downhill at you.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be with one of those type of
Speaker 1: games and guess what, we'll sprinkling you know, springklin heinee
Speaker 1: every so often. That's why you can't play a whole
Speaker 1: lot of Man, because he will take off and get
Speaker 1: that fire yards and keep those chains moving. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the reason why you don't want to play Man against
Speaker 1: these guys. You don't want to give mclauren. You don't
Speaker 1: want to give Samuel an opportunity to have extended plays.
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, it's harder to stick
Speaker 1: guys longer as a player. You know, duration continues, So
Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and zone it up and
Speaker 1: make sure that your sound right there in that box man,
Speaker 1: because that's where it's gonna be one or lost. Honey.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna beat you dropping back and throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: He will beat you if you try to play man
Speaker 1: to man and you allow him to get out in
Speaker 1: extend plays. And the reason man to man, just just
Speaker 1: elaborating on that reason why man man is such a
Speaker 1: factor is that your dvs will have their back turn
Speaker 1: while he's running towards them. But in this game, one
Speaker 1: of the keys to victory is going to be meeting
Speaker 1: matching their intensitive We can't in weeks past, we've had
Speaker 1: a problem with starting slow, and I think even just hey,
Speaker 1: I just feel like we're a little foggy going into
Speaker 1: this other team is primed and ready to go. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a playoff atmosphere in Washington because they
Speaker 1: understand what they have at stake here. I just we
Speaker 1: have to make these tackles where you say be physical
Speaker 1: at the latter half or back half of the defense,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I just believe that you have
Speaker 1: such talent back there that you can mix some of
Speaker 1: these things up. I think he's they tilt their hands
Speaker 1: on a lot of things that they do. They try
Speaker 1: and run a lot of motion, just so that you
Speaker 1: know Heineke knows what he's in. But I believe that's
Speaker 1: where you can confuse them the short routes that they
Speaker 1: are gonna throw digs last year versus Terry McLaurin. If
Speaker 1: you watch The Tape Boys a couple of times, McLaren
Speaker 1: took him to church, and it's just true. For the matter,
Speaker 1: I just think he's so much better now at those
Speaker 1: crossing routes and breaking on crossing routes. But getting that
Speaker 1: pressure up front, I think it's going to make the
Speaker 1: difference for Taylor Heineken. Again, he's serviceable. You know, he's
Speaker 1: good enough for you to win with him, but you
Speaker 1: can also force some mistakes and those mistakes that he
Speaker 1: makes this once he starts getting happy feet, he will
Speaker 1: run because he's an athlete. You know he'll go back
Speaker 1: to what he knows. He's gonna try and run the ball.
Speaker 1: If you force him to do that, and then he
Speaker 1: looks up at the last minute and try and get
Speaker 1: rid of the ball, that's where you can get some interceptions.
Speaker 1: I think I completely agree with you because I think
Speaker 1: one riverboat Ron is watching this show and he's gonna
Speaker 1: clip that and send that to Taylor and say, hey,
Speaker 1: here's your here's your motivation. Oh man, man, that's what's
Speaker 1: getting you going into more to please use me. No,
Speaker 1: I agree with you completely. I think this is a
Speaker 1: game where you have to be physical from a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to step up and have some
Speaker 1: guys step up, even though you can't sit back and say, oh,
Speaker 1: our guys are back, let's have some fun now. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is a wake up game. You need vander Es,
Speaker 1: you gotta step up. Neil has to step up. Curse
Speaker 1: is gonna have to tackle at that level as well.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a tie, big tight end to worry about. Now,
Speaker 1: his mostly his responsibility of this game. Off, lease elaborate
Speaker 1: why fifty five? Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait, we'll come back here. Let's do
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Speaker 1: let's elaborate on that. Who needs to step up and
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Speaker 1: a cliffhanger, going into the cliffhanger of asking who needs
Speaker 1: to step up against the Cowboys or excuse me, against
Speaker 1: the Washington offense. From that Cowboys defense, there's there is
Speaker 1: an a mention of a number fifty five and maybe
Speaker 1: a forty two. Who out of those guys needs to
Speaker 1: step up more? Fifty five? Why he's supposed to be
Speaker 1: our big physical linebacker, supposed to be our big physical linebacker.
Speaker 1: And I'm not in the business of calling anybody out.
Speaker 1: But I feel as if he is not upholding the
Speaker 1: ask and the responsibility that they have placed on him
Speaker 1: this year. But that's a call out. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I just go up what I see.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just call how I see it, umtat
Speaker 1: stats aside. I just I see him retreating more than
Speaker 1: I see him attacking. The there's a reason why they
Speaker 1: didn't re up him, and it's showing up. It's showing
Speaker 1: up is a reason why they didn't. They didn't grab
Speaker 1: that at that fifth year or whatever it is. It
Speaker 1: is showing up last game in particular, watching him, I'm like,
Speaker 1: come downhill, please, come downhill. We need you at the
Speaker 1: second level to be physical. Who else is going to
Speaker 1: be physic about that second level aside from Mica. Again,
Speaker 1: that's why I say, if MICA's not there, we got
Speaker 1: a freaking problem, because nobody is stepping up to be
Speaker 1: physical at that second level. There is nobody that you
Speaker 1: circle on that on on the roster right now. That's
Speaker 1: as you say, he's gonna he gonna bush you in
Speaker 1: your mouth, maybe curse. That's that's that's third level. But yeah,
Speaker 1: second level, you know, like so like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: At that second level, who are you circling to say,
Speaker 1: we got to worry about this dude? Or even guess what,
Speaker 1: you can't just go you can't just go lock up
Speaker 1: with him because you can run him to the sideline
Speaker 1: like he's not being what we need him to be
Speaker 1: and we and we have to figure that out because
Speaker 1: as you guys know, as we go further and further
Speaker 1: in this season and hopefully into the playoffs, teams are
Speaker 1: going to come downhill and they will double up. They
Speaker 1: will combo block on your on your on your nose
Speaker 1: guard and your dtackles and work up to that next level.
Speaker 1: And if that person doesn't want the smoke, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be big, big holes leading up to the K k
Speaker 1: Z and all this everybody else in that third level. No,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a great point. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that you elaborated on that when you left
Speaker 1: off of the second piece there, because you know, last
Speaker 1: game Laton had one tackle, Yeah, and that linebacker, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one tackle. And the stats she's show, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like the proof is there. And then they say,
Speaker 1: and this scot don't lie you what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: is him catching at the line of scrimmage? Are you're
Speaker 1: not scraping and feeling hole? Yeah, And it's weird to
Speaker 1: hear to think about Laton Vanderesh and that to that
Speaker 1: aspect because you have to think about him as a rookie.
Speaker 1: He was All Pro as a rookie and his whole
Speaker 1: game was being physical. Now, I don't know if if
Speaker 1: he's if he's injured. We hadn't heard about it any
Speaker 1: any of that. He's out there, but we need him,
Speaker 1: especially specifically in this game, to pick up the pace
Speaker 1: and be physical at the line of scrimmage. Also, Ken
Speaker 1: O'Neil Neil has been making some tackles. He's been doing
Speaker 1: some really good things in pass coverage, but at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, I think he gets washed out and
Speaker 1: he tries to run around block and I think that
Speaker 1: gets him in trouble because he's a little bit lighter
Speaker 1: of of a linebacker. But going back to Curse, I
Speaker 1: think there have been times where Curses playing a lot
Speaker 1: closer to the line of scrimmage than we even give
Speaker 1: credit for because he has acted because our linebackers because
Speaker 1: that physicality, you know, but he's just operated. He's operated
Speaker 1: in that way, and that's where a lot of I
Speaker 1: think when teams have had success versus us in the
Speaker 1: running game, going back to the Denver game, you could
Speaker 1: just see it. Man, They're they're gashing us, and those
Speaker 1: you know, those two phases of being able to find
Speaker 1: the two way go and get on the back side.
Speaker 1: We just hadn't had a defender that could stop it
Speaker 1: or at least stimy that block. And that's my concern
Speaker 1: with this game, and I'm gonna keep saying it because
Speaker 1: where these guys can be dangerous is what our guys
Speaker 1: are doing right now. They're gonna combo block. Guys are
Speaker 1: gonna try to wash one side of the of the
Speaker 1: line one direction. They're gonna leave one guy free. They're
Speaker 1: gonna run somebody back, try to take his knees out
Speaker 1: on the back end. So d Law, if Gregory comes back,
Speaker 1: your knees are gonna you better get your hands down,
Speaker 1: he says. They say, they're just shooting straight at your
Speaker 1: knees and they're gonna clear you out. So now there's
Speaker 1: a gaping hole right there. And if your guys at
Speaker 1: the second level linebackers want to run around blocks, and
Speaker 1: want to avoid lineman leaving. You are literally doing what
Speaker 1: they want you to do, and there we will be
Speaker 1: in a world of trouble, whole heap of trouble if
Speaker 1: these guys don't come down and be physical. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you how it is. I've seen it
Speaker 1: too many times. So are the linebackers getting a pass
Speaker 1: this year? From a general standpoint, I know we're really
Speaker 1: diving into it right now, but from a Cowboys Nation standpoint,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's not as much heat on the
Speaker 1: linebackers now that Jalen Smith's not a part of that group.
Speaker 1: Is that because just from a tag standpoint, late or
Speaker 1: not late manner, Michael Parsons is categorized as a linebacker.
Speaker 1: But outside of Michael Parsons, the linebackers have not played
Speaker 1: exceptionally Well, That's why I brought up the point. I said,
Speaker 1: if you take Mica out the picture, which I hope
Speaker 1: never happens, what do you have. No, that's a great point, um,
Speaker 1: And going back to the you know, just watching film
Speaker 1: and watching the Carolina game and with that Jalen played
Speaker 1: in and you could tell the differences in speed from
Speaker 1: my linebacker group I think we've gotten a lot faster
Speaker 1: since then. Um, just the tackling just hadn't been there
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmag Jar tackles for loss. That's
Speaker 1: where Michael is so much better. And we don't know
Speaker 1: where Michael's gonna line up. So you want to, you
Speaker 1: wanna you want to, you know, do a critique. Hell,
Speaker 1: you don't know he's gonna be an age at well,
Speaker 1: Michael wants to smoke. Right when you walk up there
Speaker 1: as an office a linement, you look up, you see Michael.
Speaker 1: You're like, ooh, if I go up to that next level,
Speaker 1: I gotta bring my big boy draws, even though I
Speaker 1: outweigh him by seventy pounds. I gotta bring my big
Speaker 1: boy dress because I know he gonna bust me in
Speaker 1: my chin. And the mother cats next to him I
Speaker 1: handle them. Yeah, they don't. And then those other cats
Speaker 1: don't have the no lateness as big. He's catching, he's catching.
Speaker 1: But that's this is why important, why this game is
Speaker 1: so important, and how Washington has gotten their running game going.
Speaker 1: It's really kind of we need to look at how
Speaker 1: we need to get our running game back going. It's
Speaker 1: just look one of this game particularly guys like Osa
Speaker 1: Diggi Zoor up front, if not Neville Gallimore, but Tristan Hill.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be imperative that our techniques that if they
Speaker 1: play sound and they gobble up those blocks to allow
Speaker 1: our linebackers to be able to get to flow and shed.
Speaker 1: We hadn't had that a lot because it's been we've
Speaker 1: been interchanging guys. But you know, I don't know that's
Speaker 1: gonna be as soon as these guys get back, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be an odd man out on our defensive front.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly who that's gonna be, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if we can have everybody on. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: fact that Brent Urban's not available for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season gives you an extra spot to work with.
Speaker 1: But you're right, I think, especially at the edge rusher spot.
Speaker 1: I mean, having all those guys and then Michael Parson's
Speaker 1: rotating in as well, are you really gonna need to
Speaker 1: keep all those edge rushers. Probably not. It's probably not
Speaker 1: the case. You'll probably have to move somebody down to
Speaker 1: the practice Watt squad or put them on waivers so
Speaker 1: their decisions to be mad now really quickly before we
Speaker 1: wrap up I know Chris is gonna get get us
Speaker 1: on time here for a in a second, but most
Speaker 1: surprising piece of the Cowboys defense real quickly. Who has
Speaker 1: it been throughout the course of this season. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the easy one, and that's
Speaker 1: the runt curse, Ye curse all the way across the board.
Speaker 1: I agree, he's played phenomenal and like we just said,
Speaker 1: the ability that he has to come up to the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage is huge because outside of Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: the speed might be better at the second level than
Speaker 1: it has been in years, but the physicality has not been.
Speaker 1: And that's something we're gonna talk about. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: getting the Cowboys run game jump started. That's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about tomorrow, Cowboys offense versus the Washington defense.
Speaker 1: But that's it for us here on this Wednesday edition
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Speaker 1: stand Back, the Great, heck Ma Harris, and I'm Kyle
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