WEBVTT - Family Matters Fugitive Denied Bail

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It it's Thursday, October sixteenth, and the

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<v Speaker 1>former star of a beloved nineties sitcom is sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>jail right now, a judge refusing to let him out

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<v Speaker 1>of jail all over yes, a family matter. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>You used that line before. It is literally true. The

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<v Speaker 1>former star of Family Matters is sitting in jail, denied

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<v Speaker 1>bail right now over a family issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yes, the Family Matters theme is sticking with him,

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<v Speaker 2>but not in a good way. For Darius McCrary, he's

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine years old, made his first court appearance yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>This story is bizarre, and his behavior in court was

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<v Speaker 2>even more bizarre, I would say concerning it seemed as

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<v Speaker 2>if he was not altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was trying to represent himself and maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>was a little confused about the process. The judge was

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<v Speaker 1>confused at times that we could clearly hear. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I would have known, first of all, his name,

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<v Speaker 1>Darius McCrary with that of immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would not have known his name. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know his face, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Oh my goodness, it's undmistakable. Still to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>All these years later, Jaleel right White, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people know that name immediately arkle from Family

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<v Speaker 1>Matters and this show. I didn't realize they had a

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<v Speaker 1>great run. Yeah, the show was on for nine seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first five they would get twenty million plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow and back in the day, right, what.

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<v Speaker 1>The actual help? But this was a big deal of

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<v Speaker 1>a sitcom that it features one of the few featured

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<v Speaker 1>prominently black cast focused on a middle class black family,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was the older brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, people have said he's kind of like the Malcolm

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<v Speaker 2>Jamal Warner of Family Matters. Basically there were people were

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<v Speaker 2>making comparisons and he has that look in the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>When we heard, of course the tragic news about Malcolm Jamal,

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<v Speaker 2>you saw where he was how many years decades later,

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<v Speaker 2>and he still had that same smile, that same face.

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<v Speaker 2>And truly, Darius McCrary is the same despite all he's facing.

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<v Speaker 2>Even his mugshot if you pull it up, is a

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<v Speaker 2>big smile on his face, and you recognize that face

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<v Speaker 2>from the show Family Matters all those years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, his name is not the one that jumps out,

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<v Speaker 1>I think obviously because of Diehard Reginald Bill Johnson, who

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<v Speaker 1>played the dad in that show. Obviously I love that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was he ends up getting this show because

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<v Speaker 1>of that role in his stardom in Diehard. So all

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<v Speaker 1>these things came together to actually give this kid, give

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<v Speaker 1>Darius McCrary a pretty wonderful opportunity. And now he has

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<v Speaker 1>a place really robes in television and broadcast and sitcom

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<v Speaker 1>history because of the role he played.

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately he's making the kind of news and the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of history nobody wants to make. You know, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people point to child actors in pros and

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<v Speaker 2>tough times, and it seems as though one can only

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<v Speaker 2>assume he's been in some sort of financial distress because

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<v Speaker 2>these charges are back pay for child support payments, and

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<v Speaker 2>according to reports, he owes ninety five thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>back pay of child support payments. That's significant, yes, and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Has to accumulate over time if that actually is true.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is out of Michigan, he claims. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is nowhere we get into and initially we were. You

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<v Speaker 1>almost are scratching your head at best, giggling at worst

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the reasoning and logic that came up

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<v Speaker 1>to what happened, but he was he missed a court

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<v Speaker 1>appearance in Michigan, and because of that, the arrest warrant

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<v Speaker 1>was issued. So he was picked up and not being

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<v Speaker 1>let out now because this was a fugitive they consider

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<v Speaker 1>this a felony fugitive arrest when you're wanted and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't turn yourself in, and then it appears he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to possibly flee the country. That is why he's sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in jail now with no chance of getting out. No bail.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, bail was denied yesterday, and he was apprehended at

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<v Speaker 2>the border, at the Mexico border. So he is currently

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<v Speaker 2>in San Diego right there, obviously near Tijuana, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of back and forth and confusion about why

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<v Speaker 2>he was in Mexico in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he was kind of in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of Tijuana. Well, so he was arrested actually trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get back into the United States. That's when he

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<v Speaker 2>was arrested, not when he was he claims accidentally across

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<v Speaker 2>the border into Mexico. Do you buy that.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't make sense of it. It doesn't mean it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen, doesn't mean it's not true, but he made

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<v Speaker 1>the quarter appearance yesterday, but they say he was arrested

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<v Speaker 1>on October fifth. So his lawyers and his I guess

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<v Speaker 1>his agent people had different and stories here robes, but

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<v Speaker 1>the official one he's going with right now is what

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<v Speaker 1>was he doing when he was caught.

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<v Speaker 2>So he claims, and by the way, he represented himself

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<v Speaker 2>in yesterday's hearing, which was such a mess. The judge

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<v Speaker 2>was like, nah, you need to have some legal representation

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't know what the hell you're doing or

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. And we can get into that because what

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<v Speaker 2>he said was bizarre and almost unintelligible at times. But

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<v Speaker 2>he said that he was caught at the border because

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to Tijuana to build homes for the homeless,

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<v Speaker 2>but that he accidentally crossed into Mexico because he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>find the person he was supposed to meet. But his

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<v Speaker 2>agent initially said that he was in Tijuana because he

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at property in Tijuana. So there are multiple

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<v Speaker 2>stories going around, none of which seemed to be correct.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't know for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But real estate and building homes for the homeless kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go together. Maybe those things are related, and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's got don't have all the details. That's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>But the confusing thing is though that he's saying he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mean to go to Mexico. So despite some explanations

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<v Speaker 2>as to why he was in Tijuana, now we're hearing

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<v Speaker 2>him say he accidentally cross the.

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<v Speaker 1>Border because he was supposed to be meeting the guy

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of the project and helping build the homes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was confusion about where they were supposed to meet.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the story got it? So where is this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that could clear a lot of things off. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying if we could hear from him, I would

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<v Speaker 2>feel better about this version of his story.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, you get confused when you confuse about where

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<v Speaker 1>to meet somebody. Is it on this side of the

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<v Speaker 1>street or is on that side of the street.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't accidentally cross into Mexico, Okay, it's a process.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't just walk in to Mexico casually cross the border. Whoopsie,

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<v Speaker 2>there are border patrol agents. There are actual like aren't there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's kind of like even I think about an

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<v Speaker 2>easy pass station on steroids, Like I haven't crossed the

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<v Speaker 2>border actually driving into Mexico. I've crossed the border driving

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<v Speaker 2>into Canada, and I know that's a process as well,

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't speak to actually having ever driven into Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know what that actually is, but I

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee you you have to show your passport, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to actually talk to an agent, you have to probably

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<v Speaker 2>state why you're going. You. They don't just let you

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<v Speaker 2>drive in there. You can't accidentally go to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>But those are Mexican officials checking your information, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying an arrest warrant wouldn't have popped up only

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<v Speaker 1>on the way back.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, although I don't know, like who knows that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>surprised that that didn't pop up. Then if there was

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<v Speaker 2>a if he missed a court appearance back in June

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<v Speaker 2>and he had an arrest warrant out for him, it

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting he was able to get into Mexico without

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<v Speaker 2>being flagged at that point, because that was the initial

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<v Speaker 2>story that he was apprehended trying to go to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's been I guess now clarified that he actually

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<v Speaker 2>got apprehended coming back into the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story, who knows what it is, But why

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<v Speaker 1>did he miss a court appearance having to do with

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<v Speaker 1>childs support in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Ropes got an explanation for that. So here's the problem. See,

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<v Speaker 2>the notice was sent to a PO box and not

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<v Speaker 2>to his actual physical home address he claimed that's from.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on top of that, he claims he had

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<v Speaker 2>COVID and he was really sick and that's why he

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't gone to check his pobox. Now, apparently he recovered

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<v Speaker 2>well enough to accidentally head to Mexico, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>swing by his PO box first to get that really

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<v Speaker 2>important court appearance notice saying he was wanted in court.

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<v Speaker 1>That, I mean, how my question how late? How far

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<v Speaker 1>past a court appearance or responding to the court before

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<v Speaker 1>they issue a war weren't for your arrest? If you

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<v Speaker 1>get a notice to come to court, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a notice that, hey, your court date is tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be in two days, in two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>could be next month.

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<v Speaker 2>You usually have ample time to plan around a court

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<v Speaker 2>date like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So is it possible he didn't check the PO

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<v Speaker 1>box for quite some time?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that he must have had what is it called

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<v Speaker 2>the long hauler syndrome of COVID, Because I've had COVID

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<v Speaker 2>twice that I know of. I was recovered within three

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<v Speaker 2>to four days.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I am not going to it all make

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<v Speaker 1>any assumptions about the level of discomfort he had while

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<v Speaker 1>he had COVID. That thing is serious.

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<v Speaker 2>He was able to physically make his way from Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>to Tijuana.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more important to get to the people, the

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<v Speaker 1>homeless who need homes. Okay in Tijuana.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I mean, I don't know they did it?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Endeavor? There was the name of an organization.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually thought now, so obviously this is verifiable. So

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he's saying, Oh, he's going to have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a name, verify it. Oh I didn't see that. Does

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<v Speaker 2>that make it different from him?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it does. I didn't know that was official name.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a guy's name. They said Rando

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<v Speaker 1>that he was trying to find. But that makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect Esperanza programs. So this he's this is according to

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<v Speaker 2>his representative. She says that he accidentally crossed into Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>due to a mix up about where to meet his

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<v Speaker 2>partner for the Esperanza program, where he volunteered to build

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<v Speaker 2>homes for unhoused individuals. That is exactly what the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the organization is that they referenced Esperanza. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Housing and benefits assistance in Philadelphia, Esperanza program. Yes, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that does something with housing in Tijuana maybe

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<v Speaker 1>all over, Yes, for thirty years, the Esperanza program.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I cannot wait to hear from Esperanza.

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<v Speaker 1>I can what if he's listed in the leadership here

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<v Speaker 1>something he's not, But yes, it is exactly what it's

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. This is interesting. So is it possible

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<v Speaker 1>that he legitimately had something to do in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just there was a lot of mixed messaging going on,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's confusing to know what to believe and what

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<v Speaker 2>not to believe. So much so that the judge was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to deny your bail. You're going to need

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<v Speaker 2>to be extradited back to Michigan, where then you can

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<v Speaker 2>actually go and appear in court for those missed child

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<v Speaker 2>support payments, which he says was an accident as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but stay with us here when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll explain what his response to all that that. The

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<v Speaker 1>judge says, yeah, we'll tell you what his response was

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<v Speaker 1>and why his quote appearance was a bit bizarre and

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<v Speaker 1>a bit confusing even to the judge.

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<v Speaker 2>And continuing our coverage of a well a developing and

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<v Speaker 2>can even it's a story that just gets more and

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<v Speaker 2>more bizarre as the days go on. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>former Family Matters star dealing with some very tricky family

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<v Speaker 2>matters right now, and he needs to appear in family court.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, though, he has been in a jail

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<v Speaker 2>on the border of Mexico and the United States after

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<v Speaker 2>he was arrested apparently now trying to cross back into

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<v Speaker 2>the country after accidentally going to Mexico. He claims to

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<v Speaker 2>help build homes for the homeless. Okay, so if you

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<v Speaker 2>think anything that we have said up until now is

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<v Speaker 2>strange and puzzling, just wait until you hear how his

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<v Speaker 2>bail hearing. His first hearing went yesterday in court where

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<v Speaker 2>he attempted to represent himself in this hearing. It didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go well.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was very confusing and he was at times

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<v Speaker 1>trying to At one point he cited a case, another

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<v Speaker 1>criminal case and trying to make a point about his

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<v Speaker 1>own rights being violated. It was you couldn't make sense

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<v Speaker 1>really of what he was saying. He was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>represent himself. He was also standing behind I guess kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in a glass holding cell, trying to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the judge through the window, So that made it all

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<v Speaker 1>so awkward. But it was strange and what was this

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making a special appearance. That whole back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>with the judge as well. He kept repeating I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>special appearance. The judge said, what are you saying? Whose

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<v Speaker 1>special appearance? What are you? And back and forth to

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<v Speaker 1>where she was even trying to get him to say

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<v Speaker 1>his name on the record, and he wouldn't say it

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't seem to understand. Not that he was

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<v Speaker 1>being hostile, he just didn't seem to understand what.

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<v Speaker 2>It made me actually think he was going for an

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<v Speaker 2>insanity defense. I don't think that that's a defense for

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<v Speaker 2>not paying child support, but it actually felt like he

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<v Speaker 2>was setting up a mentally unstable sort of defense for himself,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's how bizarre it was. But specifically, I have

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<v Speaker 2>some of the quotes at the beginning of the hearing,

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<v Speaker 2>he addressed the judge saying, I'd like to say I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here on special appearance. The judge was very confused and

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<v Speaker 2>said especially appearing for whom. That was the response, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he repeated, I'm here on special appearance. The judge

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<v Speaker 2>repeated the question, sir, who are you specially appearing for.

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<v Speaker 2>He finally responds, specially appearing for Darius McCrary, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here. So it was just bizarre, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>kept going on and on to the point where the

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<v Speaker 2>judge finally said that you, Darius, are unable to understand

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<v Speaker 2>and appreciate the legalities of these proceedings. And that's when

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<v Speaker 2>she said, I'm going to assign you a court appointed

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer because you need help.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, he was trying to do some lawyering and was

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<v Speaker 1>making them a claim that his rights were being violated,

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly his rights as it comes to due process,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said that in court, but he starts signing

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth, the fifth, the fourteenth Amendment. He's throwing all

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<v Speaker 1>this out, and the judge only heard the voice. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed like a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean she was patient there and indulged him

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit, but she finally got to a

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<v Speaker 1>point and say, all right, we need to wrap this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get a lawyer. We're going to sign you one

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<v Speaker 1>right and try this again. I think he has another

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<v Speaker 1>court appearance and we can have I think the fourteenth

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<v Speaker 1>when did I.

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<v Speaker 2>See, Well, Michigan has thirty days to kick him up

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<v Speaker 2>from this jail cell in San Diego to bring him

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<v Speaker 2>back to Michigan to face the charges he's facing there.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, this is just it. It was a strange

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<v Speaker 2>story that got stranger and it's look, who knows what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on in his life. Who knows what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in his head, but certainly he needs legal help, but

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like he needed even more help than that

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<v Speaker 2>after watching him.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say, I don't know what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in his personal life, but he certainly don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to end up where he is. And for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us who grew up watching, loving, admiring,

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<v Speaker 1>looking up to gets like him, you just hate to

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<v Speaker 1>see it. But like anybody else, people have issues and

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<v Speaker 1>problems in life and try to do the best to

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<v Speaker 1>make them right.

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<v Speaker 2>It is one of those things where people go through

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<v Speaker 2>tough times, but usually not with the spectacle of cameras

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<v Speaker 2>and people trying to discern, you know, your lowest point

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<v Speaker 2>to know that everybody's watching and listening, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>how you want to be remembered, and it's certainly not

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<v Speaker 2>how you want to have your name back in the headlines,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you've been you know, the person he's been

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<v Speaker 2>and representing and a show that's been beloved, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just tough when you see people fall on tough times

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<v Speaker 2>and have it all out there for everyone to voyeur listed,

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<v Speaker 2>voyeur list it. I can't talk today. Go ahead, I

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<v Speaker 2>give it one more shot, voyistically Is that right? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to just try to say this in another way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just tough when you are now basically the headline

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<v Speaker 2>that no one wanted, and certainly not you, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>having to deal with that. So anyway, we will continue

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<v Speaker 2>to follow this see if there's any new updates, any

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<v Speaker 2>new light that could be shed on what possibly was

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<v Speaker 2>going on behind the scenes. But for now, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for listening to us and just bearing with

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<v Speaker 2>me stumbling on that one word that I still am

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be able to say. I may be

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<v Speaker 2>rebok alongside DJ Holmes. Have a great day, everybody,