1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobelt 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on one to 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: four every day after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: demand on the iHeart app, and you can follow us 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: at John Cobelt Radio, all over social media at John 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: Cobelt Radio, and you can subscribe on YouTube, YouTube, dot com, 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: slash at John Cobelt's Show. We have longer segments running there. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: So we're everywhere, on every possible platform anyway we can 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: communicate the message. We're not going to talk with Mark 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Recrean from the Center for Immigration Studies. We've had Mark 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: on frequently over the years. Donald Trump said yesterday that 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: starting February first, no federal funding to any states that 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: have sanctuary cities. That's it. And you know California is 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: a sanctuary state, so federal money is going to be 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: cut to them. I don't know how much. I don't 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: know how many programs will be affected, but that's his proclamation. 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: And in two weeks the withholding will start, and I 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: imagine there'll be thousands of lawsuits, but I guess it's 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: game on. Let's get Marco Corriyon on. 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Mark, how are you, Yeah, very well, thanks for having 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: me back. 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: What's your understanding of how widespread the withholding is going 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: to be? Like how many programs, how much money, what categories? 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: Is there any specifics to this or did he just 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: blurt something out? 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if there's any specifics. It could 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: be that he just blurted something out or that they've 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: been working on this for a while and it's going 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: to take some lawyering to make this stick, because the 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: federal government often uses money and threats of cutting off 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: money to get states to change your policies. The most 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 1: probably famous one is they start to withhold highway money 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: to states that didn't raise the drinking age, and the 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: rationale was, you know, the drinking age is too low. 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: That was a threat of highways, you know, teenagers drinking 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, So it was a connection between 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: those two things. I don't know that anybody challenged that 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: in court, but frankly they might have won because it's 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: the tenth Amendment to the Constitution, which you know, the 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: Democrats kind of ignore most of the time, but it 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: says that, you know, things that aren't specifically laid out 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: in the Constitution those rights are reserved to the states, 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: and the way courts have interpreted that is that the 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: FEDS can't do what they call commandeering of state resources 46 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: for federal purposes, in other words, getting the states to 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: do things they don't want to do using their own 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: police or their own bureaucracies. And so the threat of 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: cutting off money usually in fact, this is the way 50 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: the courts have said, it has to have some connection 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: to the program the money is being given for, you 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: see what I mean. So that in Trump won, they 53 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: actually did cut off some money for three specific Justice 54 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: Department grant programs that related to law enforcement and said 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: that if law enforcement isn't cooperating, for instance, in San 56 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Francisco they did this, and some other places law enforcement 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: isn't cooperating with ice, therefore they're ineligible for these three programs. 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: And what every jurisdiction accept, Miami Dade County in Florida 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: that was targeted like this, what everyone every jurisdiction said is, yeah, whatever, 60 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: we'll write off the money. We don't care. We're not 61 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: going to change our policy because it wasn't that much money. Now, 62 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: if you can cut off education funding, highway funding, medicare funding, 63 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: medicaid funding, then that's going to get their attention. But 64 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't think the courts all allow that. So we're 65 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: going to have to see if the administration has you know, 66 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: lawyered up this issue sufficiently that they could get it 67 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: through the courts. But I think what you're going to 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: see on February first is just a lot of lawsuits 69 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: and probably no money cut off yet. 70 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: Well what about medicaid funding though, because Newsom is blatantly 71 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: giving medicaid to all illegal aliens who get here, and 72 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: a lot of that's federal money obviously. 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: And it seems. 74 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: It seems like it's in the federal government's interest to say, hey, 75 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: you're a sanctuary, No way you're giving away our money 76 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: for medicaid. 77 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: You would think so. But the rat the excuse or 78 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: the response from the States is only half the money 79 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: comes from the Feds and it's the and the money 80 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: for illegal immigrants is coming from the other half, the 81 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: state money. Now that's kind of a bogus argument because 82 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: money is money. The question is will that stand up 83 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: in court? I don't know, but yes, you could definitely 84 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: do that. 85 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: It just seems like that would be the best case 86 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: that the Trump administration would have because the spending was 87 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: so blatant, and I know they're trying to pass a 88 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: law to make to make it entirely illegal to be 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: giving out that kind of money to illegal aliens any 90 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: kind of welfare benefits. 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know that would require Congress successfully passing something, 92 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: and the Democrats are not going to agree, and Congress 93 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: are not going to agree anything like that. And you know, 94 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: the Republicans have a majority, but it's a nominal majority. 95 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you need sixty votes in the Senate to 96 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: get anything done and they don't. And they also their 97 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: majority in the House of Representatives I think now is 98 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: down the two seats, yeah, maybe three. So you know, 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: you have a couple of Republicans who kind of wimp out. 100 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: You're not going to get any Democrats because Trump is evil, 101 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: and therefore the vote against anything. I mean, Trump said 102 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: taking a shower is a good idea. They'd all stop 103 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: bathing just because Trump's met it. It's that pathological. So 104 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: so yeah, this is going to end up being decided 105 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: in the courts, probably, even though Congress is the place 106 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: this kind of thing should be decided. 107 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well, thank you very much for explaining all. 108 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: That that's why I get paid the big money. 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll send you our checked all right, our 110 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: usual amount exactly. Okay, Mark Corey had sent it for 111 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: immigration studies. Thanks for coming on to the Trump administrative 112 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: administration threatening to stop federal payments the states with the 113 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: sanctuary cities. All right, we've got more coming up. Uh oh, 114 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: here's another big bust in California. And I've been talking 115 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: about this forever. In fact, I first the first time 116 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: I saw an article on this. I remember where it 117 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: was published, and I remember who wrote it. Because I 118 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: had a great impact on me. I saved it for 119 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: a long time, and I may even during the commercial 120 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: bree go and find it again. I've known this for 121 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: thirty years. And the La Times had a story that 122 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: reconfirmed that the biggest bust, especially in this nagging nanny state, 123 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: is plastic reces. Another story to confirm the futility of recycling. 124 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it coming up. And yes, I'm gonna 125 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: have another rant on the plastic bag band that's returned 126 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: to grocery stores. 127 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: I gave you a Leopard usable cloth bag that you're 128 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: more than welcome to use somewhere in your house. 129 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's another thing I enjoyed about your your naked 130 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: announcement on Garyan Shannon. Robe in the event of an earthquake, 131 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 2: you have a Leopard robe nearby. 132 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: I do because if there's an earthquake or some catastrophe, 133 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go out naked, so I need to 134 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: put on my robe. 135 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: No good point, accessible, good point, an interesting house you 136 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: must have. 137 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 138 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: six forty. 139 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna I'm gonna do 140 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: about the the plastic recycling nonsense coming up in the 141 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: next segment. I just want a one more time because 142 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: I realized I never really got into the plastic bag 143 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: band that went into effect while we were on vacation. 144 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: And now The lay Times has written a story and 145 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: this is far from the first story I've ever seen 146 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: about how there's very little plastic that gets recycled in California. 147 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: This thing has been a bust since it started. Nobody 148 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: ever made money, not that many people ever participated. But first, 149 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: this is good. This is almost like an old fashioned 150 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: vaudeville sketch starring US Senator Josh Hawley. From Missouri as 151 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: a Republican, and there is an hearing, and it was 152 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: a hearing from on the Senate Committee Health, Education, Labor, 153 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: and Pensions. And the subject was supposed to be abortion medication. 154 00:08:54,320 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: The person being questioned is doctor Nisha Verma, advisor to 155 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: physicians for Reproductive Health. I don't know how the conversation 156 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: got steered in this direction, but Hawley started asking doctor 157 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: Nisha Verma if men can get pregnant? All right, So 158 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: that that's the main question here, So listen to this. 159 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 5: That a moment ago that science and evidence should control, 160 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 5: not politics. So let's just test that proposition. Can men 161 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 5: get pregnant? 162 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 6: I take care of people with many identities. 163 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 7: But can men get pregnant? 164 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 8: Many women that can get pregnant? I do take care 165 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 8: of people that don't identify as. 166 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 7: Women that can can men get pregnant? 167 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 6: Again, as I'm saying. 168 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 5: Let me let me just remind you. You testified to a 169 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 5: moment ago, science and evidence should control, not politics. 170 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 7: So should can men get pregnant? You're a doctor at say. 171 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,119 Speaker 6: Science and evidence should guide medicine. 172 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 5: I do science that evidence tell us that men can 173 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: get pregnant? Biological men, can they get pregnant. 174 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 6: I also think, yes, no, questions like this are a 175 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 6: polit me tool. 176 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 7: No, yes, no, questions are about the truth. Doctor. 177 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 5: Let's not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is 178 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 5: about science and evidence, and I'm asking you. You know, 179 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 5: the United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at 180 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: great length on this question. This is not a hypothetical question. 181 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 5: This is not theoretical that affects real people in their 182 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 5: real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by 183 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 5: the other side as an expert, and you've been telling 184 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 5: us that you that you follow right, you're a doctor, 185 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: and you follow the science and the evidence. So I 186 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: just want to know, based on the science, can men 187 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: get pregnant? That's a yes or no question, it really is. 188 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 8: I think I think you're trying to reduce the complexity 189 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 8: of a lot. 190 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 7: I'm not. 191 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get it's not complex. I'm trying to 192 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: get to an answer, and I'm trying to test, frankly, 193 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 5: your veracity as a medical professional and as a scientist. 194 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: Can men get pregnant? 195 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 6: I think you're also conflating this. 196 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: It's extraordinary. No, I'm not conflating male and female there're 197 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 5: two different things. There's biological men and there's biological women. 198 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 7: And I want to know can men get pregnant? 199 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 6: What you were talking about is biology. You're not going 200 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 6: to answer my question mitological males. 201 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 7: This isn't a hard doctor. Can men get pregnant? Yes? 202 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: Or no? 203 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 8: I would be more than happy to have a conversation 204 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 8: with you that is not coming from a place of 205 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 8: trying to be polarized and. 206 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 7: Push I'm not trying to be polarizing. I'm trying to ask. 207 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 5: I think it is extraordinary that we are here in 208 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 5: hearing about science and about women, and for the record, 209 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: it's women who get pregnant, not men. 210 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: That was great. Could you have imagined when you were 211 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: there would be a debate in the Senate as to 212 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: whether men can get pregnant? 213 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: Because everything is just it's nuts. 214 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 9: I'd like to see you get pregnant. 215 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: John, I'd like to see how I would get pregnant 216 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: back in the day. I'd love to see how that 217 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: would work at me. 218 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, Eric, I'd like to see you no change. 219 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: Well, you wear clothes every day. I don't know. 220 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 9: I wear clothes every day. I'm wearing them right now. 221 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I guess I'm not getting pregnant. Then, yeah, 222 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: Senator Josh Hallway Hallway. While I was talking, I just 223 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: went to, you know, artificial intelligence is supposedly way smarter 224 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: than we are. Right, So if you go to chet 225 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: GPT and I asked, simply, can men get pregnant? And 226 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: chet GPT says no, all right, and then uh, let 227 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: me see who else I go to. I went to 228 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: Grock and uh, short answer, no. 229 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: But I don't understand how that's offensive to people. I mean, 230 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: by a logical by a logical name, cannot get pregnant. 231 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: Right, That's what I think. 232 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: That's not that, that's not saying anything against people that 233 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: want to be trans. 234 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 9: It's not It's not about that. It's a simple question. 235 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 9: I mean, what do I I know? 236 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: And all she had to say is, if you wanted 237 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: to qualify it, right, is biological men cannot get pregnant. 238 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: She wouldn't even do that, which I found fascinating. 239 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, I didn't understand. 240 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: And then and then you know, it's like a separat 241 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: shore where a transgender men Wait, how would you even 242 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: describe I guess transgender men would be women who became men, right, right, 243 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: So can they get pregnant. Well, if they still if 244 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: they have a uterus and ovaries, right, because. 245 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: Now one day maybe they will replant that into a 246 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: biological man that wants to become a woman. Right, So 247 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: if they get to that point one day where all 248 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: the things that women have biologically can be implanted into 249 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: a biological man, then possibly maybe one day that person 250 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: or those people can get pregnant. 251 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: But one of these, one of these AI responses said 252 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: no because they don't have ovaries or a uterus. 253 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 9: Right, So you're right, that's how she could have qualified it. 254 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: But she could have also said what I said, Yes, 255 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: maybe one day that could change. 256 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: It's not today. Did you hear? Earlier this week the 257 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 2: Supreme Court was debating whether men should be allowed to 258 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: compete in women's sports. Yeah, there's another one who would 259 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: have thought this would ever be an issue before the 260 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: Supreme Court. No, less, after they fought so hard to 261 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: get women's sports funded. There used to be not that 262 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: long ago, hardly any women's sports. And then they they 263 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: passed laws in Congress mandating that there had to be 264 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: funding in public schools for women's sports, and that that 265 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: was a big fight that went on for many many years, 266 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: and and the girls won, and they got to compete 267 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: now for decades, and suddenly it's like, well, let the 268 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: guys in and compete against you. It's like, are you nuts? Ah? God, 269 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: It's so exhausting, and I'm glad a lot of this 270 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: stuff is finally collapsing and these groups are losing, and 271 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,119 Speaker 2: maybe they'll sh shot up and dig a hole for themselves, 272 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: all right when we come back. Yes, another failure in California, 273 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: the uh nanny State, the nags and Sacramento. Hardly any 274 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: plastic is recycled in California, all their state programs, all 275 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: the money they've stolen from us, Big bust, tell you 276 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: about it. 277 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 278 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: six forty. 279 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four o'clock Moistline 280 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: for Friday. But I guess you know we got a 281 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: lot this week between the interview with the fire chief 282 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: and Debora announcing that she's naked at home, we got 283 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: more enough calls already. But you know what call in 284 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: just in case eight seven seven moist eighty six, eight 285 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: seven seven moist eighty six. You knew we weren't going 286 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: to leave you alone. 287 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 9: Let me just can I just ask you a question? 288 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 9: What's the big whoop? But I sleep naked? What's the 289 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 9: big deal? 290 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: It's it's that you announced well because out in. 291 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: Fear and put me on the spot on her show 292 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: because I do do news on her show as well. 293 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: And she said, hey, Deborah, and I threw my headphones on, yeah, 294 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: and that do you sleep naked? 295 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: And you announced I sleep naked? 296 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 9: Well, what was I going to say? 297 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: No, it's it's just as soon as you said it, 298 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: you knew you were going to hear about it for 299 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: the rest of the day. 300 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 9: I was hoping not. 301 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: Actually, I didn't know she was going to bring it 302 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: up again. When you were sitting in the studio with. 303 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: Me, you thought we would let that slide. 304 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 9: I didn't think you heard it. 305 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: I was sitting in front of you. 306 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 9: No, I didn't know that you heard well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 307 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 9: I didn't know. 308 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: I was maybe three feet away. 309 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, but I didn't think you would. 310 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: You know, really, how long have we been doing this 311 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: and how much stuff do I have saved? 312 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 9: If you don't but those go away, I don't hear. 313 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: They I have them saved. I just don't bring them out. 314 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: There's a whole file. We can run the file one 315 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: day if you'd like. That's okay, all right, So the 316 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: story out of the La Times this morning is to 317 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: all right, here it is California touts itself as a 318 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: leader on the problem of plastic garbage, but recent developments 319 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: suggest otherwise. Turns out, the recycling level for all our 320 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 2: plastic products is extremely low. It's just not happening, and 321 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: it doesn't make anyone any money. The state has a 322 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: waste agency of a whole government is a waste agency. 323 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: Shows that, for example, plastic yogurt containers, shampoo bottles, and 324 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: restaurant takeout trays are being recycled at rates in the 325 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: single digits. Yogurt containers have polypropylene. You could also find 326 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: it in margarine tubs and microwavable trails trays. Only two 327 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: percent of it's getting recycled. Ninety eight percent is not 328 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: colored shampoo and detergent bottles made from polyethylene. It's getting 329 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: recycled at a five percent rate. Clear polyethylene bottles which 330 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: hold medications or hard water bottles recycled at just sixteen percent. 331 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: No plastic in the report exceeds a recycling rate of 332 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: twenty three percent, most of them in the single digits. 333 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: How about that? All those rules and regulations, all those 334 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: stupid containers that you see. 335 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, we don't do that anymore. 336 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 337 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 9: Who's you and I? 338 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: We? We no? 339 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 9: I recycle. 340 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: I used to. 341 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: I used to not for not to take because I 342 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: have I have a blue bin and a black bin 343 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: and a green bin. Right, so it didn'tdn't take much 344 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: to just Okay, so water bottles go in the blue recycling. 345 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: That's precious of you. You're very grass environmentally conscious. 346 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 9: Believes into the green. 347 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: You know that stuff never went to recycling. 348 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 9: Well then I know that. 349 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: So once I found out about that, then I don't 350 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: care anymore and I don't do that. 351 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 9: I have no recycle in my house. 352 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: And the compostable bags are a bust. We're supposed to 353 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: be have our garbage inspected. Has anybody seen a compost inspector? 354 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: No? 355 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 9: But now one's going to show up to your house tomorrow. 356 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: Well he's gonna he's gonna get a water hose, the 357 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: water hose treatment. Uh I I don't know anybody who 358 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: does that. That that's another bust. Jandell is the founder 359 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: of a group called Last Beach clean Up in Orange 360 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: County an anti plastic organization. Oh my god, that's like 361 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: being an anti ice in an anti ice organization. Yes, 362 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna stop people from throwing out plastic. Go ahead, 363 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: jan of all the things to volunteer for. Why need 364 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: you adopt a child or something anti plastic? 365 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 7: Uh? 366 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: Because there's this new law out that is supposed to 367 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: put a lot of restrictions on packaging waste, but they 368 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: haven't implemented the regulations because nobody can agree on anything 369 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: in the industry is fighting it pretty bad. And she 370 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: says that that bill will never increase the recycling rates 371 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: of these items because milk cartons, plastic packaging are fundamentally 372 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: not technically recyclable, and others. You can't actually recycle them. 373 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: You can collect them in a recycling bin, but there's 374 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: nowhere to go and they're not, she says, economically recyclable. 375 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: There's nobody willing to accept them. And if if you 376 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: could find somebody, they only pay a few pennies. We 377 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: shipped them to China for a while and then China 378 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: said no, and China didn't do anything. I think they 379 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: dumped them in the ocean. Do you know, they always 380 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: howl about all the plastic in the ocean. You know, 381 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: seventy percent of the plastic in the oceans from China. 382 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: It is most of it plastic fishing nets because there 383 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: are a lot of Chinese fishermen. There's a lot of 384 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: Chinese waterways along the coast. They do a lot of fishing. 385 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: That's a huge part of their diet, and the plastic 386 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: fishing nets supply much of the pollution. Also, a lot 387 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: of Chinese rivers empty out into the oceans that carries 388 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: a lot of plastic from the inland. So it's not us, 389 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: it's not the US, it's China. And whatever we're producing, 390 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: they can't recycle. There's no money in it. They don't 391 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: even know how to do it. It's been nonsense. And then 392 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: I had a flashback and I found it. This is 393 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: from June thirtieth, nineteen ninety six. I we probably talked 394 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 2: about this when this story came out. And John Tierney, 395 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: who's a well known writer, he's still writing in the 396 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: New York Times magazine, wrote a long, long piece and 397 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: the title of it recycling his garbage, And he said 398 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: that they started this experiment in nineteen eighty seven. I 399 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: remember because this happened near New Jersey when we were 400 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: living there. Then there was a barge named the Mobro, 401 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: the Moboro four thousand, and the Mobro was filled with 402 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: garbage and it it floated up and down the coast 403 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: of New Jersey along the east coast, thousands of miles. 404 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: It had a huge cargo of trash from Long Island residents. 405 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: All this Long Island garbage, you know, from a landfill, 406 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: was eventually put on this barge and the barge couldn't 407 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 2: find a home for the garbage, so it sailed up 408 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: and if I remember correctly, people could see it from 409 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: the Jersey beaches. Nowhere to go, I mean, comedians were 410 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: doing jokes on television about it, and suddenly recycling became 411 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: a thing. Well, now things are really out of control. 412 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: We have a barge filled with thousands and thousands of 413 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: tons of garbage and nowhere to go. We've got to do. 414 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: So they started this recycling movement almost forty years ago. 415 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: Now it has never worked, and it's never made anybody money, 416 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: and they still keep pushing it. Then they've expanded it 417 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: to this compostable nonsense, and there's no way to stop 418 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: these from fanatics. There's no way to convince them that 419 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: you lost. It doesn't work. People don't want to do it. 420 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: Even when they do it, you can't sell it to 421 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: anyone who wants to pay you money. The idea was 422 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: there were no more room for landfills, so Americans concluded 423 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: that recycling was their only option. See this was the 424 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: frenzy of nineteen eighty seven. We have frenzies now where 425 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: people pretend that men can be women just by saying 426 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: so right, men can be in women's sports, just by 427 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: saying so, men can be pregnant. Well, almost forty years ago, 428 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: the craze was, oh my god, we're out of room 429 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: in the landfills. What are we gonna Did you ever 430 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: drive cross cross country? 431 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 9: I have never known not cross country. 432 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: Drive just I don't know, eight hours into Arizona, or 433 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: go to New Mexico, Nevada, there is so much empty land. 434 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: Oh well when I go to Vegas, yeah sure, yeah, 435 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: daggering about empty land. 436 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: What do you mean we don't have room for landfills. 437 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: We could turn an entire state into a landfill, and 438 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: that would probably take us for hundreds of thousands of years. 439 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: And there are some states which should be turned into 440 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: a landfill. Oh, I got more on this. We come 441 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: back because I got to talk about the plastic bag thing, 442 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: because that's got to end. I'm gonna start and said, 443 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to start an organization anti recycling, anti plastic 444 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: bag bands, anti all of this nonsense. 445 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 446 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 4: six forty. 447 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: All right. 448 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: You can follow us on social media at John Cobelt 449 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: Radio at John Cobelt Radio and subscribe on YouTube. We 450 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: put out longer form segments now whole segments of our 451 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: show on video YouTube tube dot com. Slash at John 452 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: Cobelt's show YouTube dot com. Slash at John Cobelt's show. 453 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: Before we move on, I was enjoying this old article 454 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: I was telling you about from John Tierney, a writer 455 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: New York Times magazine, thirty years ago June of nineteen 456 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: ninety six, because the La Times Today had a story 457 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: that recycling is a bust. All the plastics they want 458 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: you to recycle. It's like two percent five percent, depending 459 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: on the plastics category. So I started reading this old 460 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: article by John Tierney about where this got started. Got 461 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: started in nineteen eighty seven. As I mentioned when there 462 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: was this barge that carried all this long island trash 463 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: and it didn't have a home. It couldn't find a dock, 464 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: a place to dump the trash. And as I read this, 465 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: see if this reminds you of something that's gone on, 466 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: especially the last ten years. So again, this is nineteen 467 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: ninety six, and he's writing about a phenomenon that started 468 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty seven, almost forty years ago. Tierney wrote, 469 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: believing that there was no more room in the landfills, 470 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: Americans concluded that recycling was their only option. Their intentions 471 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: were good, their conclusions seemed plausible. Recycling does sometimes make 472 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: sense for some materials in some places at some times, 473 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: but the simplest and cheapest option is usually to bury 474 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: garbage and an environmentally safe landfill. And there's no shortage 475 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: of landfill space. The crisis of nineteen eighty seven was 476 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: a false alarm, so there's no reason to make recycling 477 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: a legal or moral imperative, and they mainly benefit a 478 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: few groups politicians, public relations consultants, environmental organizations, and waste 479 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: handling corporations. Then he writes, the obvious temptation is to 480 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 2: blame journalists who did a remarkable job of creating the 481 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: garbage crisis, but he says the press isn't solely responsible. 482 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: The public's obsession wouldn't have lasted this long unless recycling 483 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: met some emotional need. Okay, think about the soccer moms 484 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 2: now storming the ice agents, just as the third graders 485 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: believed that their litter run was helping the planet cleaning 486 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: up the garbage. Americans have embraced recycling, recycling as a 487 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: transcendental experience, on act of moral redemption. We're not just 488 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: reusing our garbage. We're performing a rite of atonement for 489 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: the sin of excess. Recycling teaches themes that previous generations 490 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: of school children learned from the Puritan classic The Pilgrim's Progress, 491 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 2: some books long ago. But all this has religious overtones. 492 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: The idea that we need redemption, that we're supposed to 493 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: cleanse our sins. That's what fuels these people. And you 494 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: see it over and over again. What do you think 495 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: fueled this global warming movement? Most young people believe that 496 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: global warming is going to cause us to die. There 497 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: are a lot of children who fear that the Earth's 498 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: temperature is going to rise so high that it imperils 499 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: everything that's living on the planet. We're not gonna be 500 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: able to grow food. All the animals are going to die. 501 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna die because of the sins we've committed against nature. 502 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: And it's total nonsense. It's total hysteria whipped up by 503 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 2: activist organizations who profit from it and journalists who profit 504 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: from it. And they have a belief system that is 505 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: very similar to an extreme religion, except now they've taken 506 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: over the government and the communications operations in this country, 507 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: all the media outlets, and they've taken over this system. 508 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: And recycling was just an early just an early warning, 509 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: an early warning light about what's happening people now. Because 510 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: they don't have regular religion in their lives, and everybody 511 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: seems to have a need for some spiritual fulfillment, a 512 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: need to cleanse their sins. They all embraced a pagan religion, 513 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: which was environmentalism, which is a noble thing up to 514 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: a point, but it always turns into fanaticism. All the 515 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: plastic bags have to be banned, all the plastic has 516 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: to be recycled. Now they've transferred it to fighting ice 517 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: agents to the point where they're interfering with ICE agents 518 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: who are trying to arrest criminals who rape women. Women 519 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: interfering with ICE agents trying to arrest those women's potential rapists. 520 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: We are really an unhinged species. And now with social media, 521 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: it is created organications made up of unhinged people. And 522 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: now there's massive funding from other unhinged people willing to 523 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: keep this organizations and these movements going. And suddenly it's 524 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: twenty four hour news, so all the news stations have 525 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: an incentive to keep showing you the videos and keep 526 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: having outraged people on to egg on the crazy people. 527 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: All right, we come back. We're going to talk with 528 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: a candidates for attorney general, a guy if you listen 529 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: to our show, you know Will Michael Gates. He was 530 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: the former Huntington Beach City Attorney and then became a 531 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Trump administration, and now 532 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: he's running for Attorney General of California against that little 533 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: weasel Rob Bonta. Will talk to him about it. Coming up, 534 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: Deborah Mark Live the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, 535 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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