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Speaker 1: This is the Baloomberg Business of Sports show. Will we

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Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports.

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael Barn, I'm Scarlett Folk, and I me mean

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we talked basketball and there's

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Speaker 1: a new era dawning in LA. We talked with LA

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Speaker 1: Clippers President of Business Operations Gillian Zucker, about their high

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Speaker 1: hopes this season as they prepare a big old move

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Speaker 1: to Englewood.

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Speaker 3: It's been built for basketball and music, and what we're

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Speaker 3: interested in having is the most intimate experience that you

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Speaker 3: can possibly have to be able to watch a game,

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Speaker 3: or to watch a concert or a comedian, and what

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Speaker 3: that means is that you're close to whatever it is

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Speaker 4: We talk about Gillian's journey in business and specifically how

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Speaker 4: she got her job working with and for Steve Bomber.

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Speaker 5: It's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And we'll also talk with golf legend Anika Stornstamp. We

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Speaker 1: talked with Anna Seward Stamp this past week. She was

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Speaker 1: part of a series of special events celebrating women's sports icons.

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Speaker 6: When I stepped away in two thousand and eight, I

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Speaker 6: wanted to get back to the game. I want to

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Speaker 6: say thank you. I mean, I wouldn't be where I

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Speaker 6: am today without the game of golf. And how can

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Speaker 6: I inspire the next generation of young girls? So Pianaka

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Speaker 6: Foundation was in the natural step. And now we have

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Speaker 6: you know, seven global tournaments. We have over six hundred

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Speaker 6: girls that play every year, and you know this period

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Speaker 6: of week is just I mean, it lines up so beautifully.

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Speaker 1: Oh that is straight ahead on the Bloomberg Business of Sports.

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Speaker 1: But first, we are getting closer to having a big

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Speaker 1: casino right next to city Field in Queen.

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Speaker 2: That's right, mister Barr. New York Mets owner Steve Cohen

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Speaker 2: is partnering with hard Rock International on a proposal to

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Speaker 1: For more on the story, we welcome Bloomberg News senior

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Speaker 1: reporter Laura Thomas. Laura, welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I wish we could have some of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: going to go to this casino if it happens. I'm like, oh, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll be there. Opening day Man. First of all, how

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Speaker 7: Well, that's a good question. It's actually very far from

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Speaker 7: being a reality. This is just a proposal that mister

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Speaker 7: to pass a bunch of significant hurdles. This proposal in

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Speaker 7: land that mister Cohen is proposing to use to build

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Speaker 7: this eight billion dollar casino and entertainment complex is technically

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Speaker 7: parkland part of Corona Flushing Meadows Park and Queens even

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Speaker 7: though it's just a parking lot, and he would need

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Speaker 7: and then a state casino location board would have to

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 4: This sounds like a two season plotline of Billions, and

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Speaker 4: I think they did cover something like that in Billions.

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Speaker 5: Already.

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Speaker 4: What do we know about how Steve Cohen has prepared

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Speaker 7: Well, if there's one thing that we all know about

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Speaker 7: Steve Cohen, it's that he has plenty of funding and resources.

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Speaker 7: And he over the past year and a half has

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Speaker 2: Laura, But but really, does Steve have a lot have

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Speaker 2: I heard shop architects, I heard somebody who helped with

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's proposing to partner with hard Rock International, well

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Speaker 2: Is there going to be a big guitar? Is going

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Speaker 8: Past couple of decades.

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Speaker 7: So it's a multifaceted, multi part vision that's designed to

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Speaker 1: Now he's used the selling point that many people use

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Speaker 1: That's something that everybody uses when they're trying to push that.

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Speaker 7: Jobs, Well, the job estimates are always just that an estimate.

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Speaker 7: And also his spookespeople didn't provide a breakdown of what

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Speaker 7: we have seen, for example, at the Aqueduct rasino also

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Uncle Steve. Okay, Auntie Scarlett, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Uncle Steve.

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Speaker 4: That anecdote tells you a lot. Yeah, so they've released

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Speaker 7: Next year another good question. So there's no rush from

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Speaker 7: so we could be multiple years away from this still

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Speaker 2: Lour I've watched God Other two a number of times,

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Speaker 2: and the hardest part is to get the state Gaming

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Speaker 2: I know nothing about the New York State Gaming Board,

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Speaker 7: My answer is this, so the state has authorized up

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Speaker 2: So there's only three though, just three licenses.

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Speaker 7: already existing what are called racinos in New York. There's

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Speaker 2: Raceway is a racina. Yes, I see, it's not.

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Speaker 8: A full scale casino yet.

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Speaker 2: But they would that would count as one of the three. Wow,

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Speaker 5: So who's going to go to Mohegan Sun Now.

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Speaker 1: I'll be stilled there. Don't you worry. I'm there that

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Speaker 1: another question. By the way, in about two years. This

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Speaker 1: is according to Spectrum Gaming, if this thing comes into fruition,

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Speaker 1: the Queen's Casino could generate close to two billion dollars

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Speaker 7: I think one of the things that's been talked about

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Speaker 4: I've got to ask the question about Steve Cohen. I mean,

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Speaker 4: as as much as it seems like local politicians appreciate

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Speaker 4: him calling him Uncle Steve, he does not have the

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Speaker 4: cleanest history.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: His firm sac Capital pleaded guilty to securities fraud, paid

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Speaker 7: It could potentially come up in there's a very rigorous

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Speaker 5: The past and want to godfather too.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, remove any any possibility or the specter of foul

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Speaker 7: he's mister Cohen is hoping to write a new act

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Speaker 7: for himself.

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Speaker 1: for joining us here on the Bloomberg Business of Sports.

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Speaker 7: We appreciate thank you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we talked with golf legend

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Speaker 1: Annika Sorenstam on her working to inspire the next generation

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Speaker 1: They're just wrapping up a week long series of events

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Speaker 9: Of course, Parody has been around for about three years

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Speaker 6: Yes, So, the Parody Week is a celebration of three

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Speaker 5: So it's your own namesake tournament.

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Speaker 2: Week, Anaka. You know, I have so many questions about

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Speaker 2: For our audience. I mean, Anika, what brought you out

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Speaker 6: And how can I inspire the next generation of young girls?

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Speaker 1: You got three powerhouse people, Leela, that just leave the

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean it sounds like you've had an amazing

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad you bring that up, because it's not

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Speaker 2: Leol, I just want to steer it back to Miss

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Speaker 6: Well, it sounds like you know your stuff for sure.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it. I would say the LPGA is in

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just looking at the top ten here

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to kind of slip out of that.

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Speaker 6: much money it's getting, you know, spent on Live Golf,

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Speaker 6: and who knows what the partnership is going to look like.

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Speaker 6: I think we're all waiting anxiously to find out what

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Speaker 6: it's you know what will be for twenty four or

441
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Speaker 6: for twenty five. But you know, you always think that,

442
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Speaker 6: you know, when you talk about golf it's in the news,

443
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Speaker 6: is a good thing. And I would say that money

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Speaker 6: into the game is a good thing. And of course

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Speaker 6: I like to focus on the women a little bit

446
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Speaker 6: more and just hopefully we can see some of that,

447
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Speaker 6: you know, trickle in for the LPGA, and and I

448
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Speaker 6: think it has. But right now the LPGA is study.

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Speaker 6: We know what you know what you're getting, and you

450
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Speaker 6: get the best players when you know you tune into

451
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Speaker 6: the championships week after week. So it'd be interesting. But

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Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, from the junior perspective, golf

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Speaker 6: is healthy, lots of great initiatives out there, and I

454
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Speaker 6: know there's so many upcoming players, so just you know,

455
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Speaker 6: just st a collegiate golf. I mean, it's just stronger,

456
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Speaker 6: stronger it's ever been. So we'll see what the future

457
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Speaker 6: will will bear for the PGA Tour and live golf.

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Speaker 2: You know, I would like to steer it back to you, Leela,

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Speaker 2: you know, prior to joining Parody, and you've only been

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Speaker 2: with Party I believe since May of this year. As CEO.

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Speaker 2: You know, you've had a number of very interesting other positions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're a chief marketing officer for a number

463
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Speaker 2: of different companies, one of which was Momentum, the maker

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Speaker 2: of surveying Monkey, Right, So you know, I'm just curious,

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Speaker 2: you know how all of that prepare you for this

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Speaker 2: current role and you know what comes next?

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Speaker 9: Exact absolutely so, Yes, you're right. I'm six months into

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Speaker 9: this sporting adventure, a lifelong watcher of almost every spot

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Speaker 9: under the sun that I had. Most recently built my

470
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Speaker 9: career in tech marketing and spent the last thirteen or

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Speaker 9: fourteen years in roles that companies like LinkedIn, open Table,

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Speaker 9: and serving Monkey. As you said, I think it's been

473
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Speaker 9: fantastic preparation in many ways, one of the ways being

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Speaker 9: when I think back to my find out LinkedIn and

475
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Speaker 9: sort of the early twenty tens when social media was

476
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Speaker 9: just coming to a real frenzy and everyone wanted to

477
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Speaker 9: dive in. I feel that same level of excitement and

478
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Speaker 9: frenzy when you look at women's sports today, I think

479
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Speaker 9: so many brands are trying to figure out how to

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Speaker 9: get involved, and they don't know where to start. Most

481
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Speaker 9: of their money has been flowing toward men's sports till

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Speaker 9: now they know they can tell from the zeitgeist that

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Speaker 9: things are shifting and it's a huge opportunity, but they

484
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Speaker 9: don't know where to start, and so it feels like

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Speaker 9: it's a really really important time for women's sports. And

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Speaker 9: I think the other thing to mention is just my

487
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Speaker 9: experience as a marketer is something that I think is

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Speaker 9: valuable and can be helpful to our clients if they're

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Speaker 9: coming in and trying to figure out where to invest,

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Speaker 9: how to invest, which athletes, which at etc.

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Speaker 1: This is a two part question, two parts because this

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Speaker 1: is the same question to Anika and Leela, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to start with Lela. Here Anaka is still on

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Speaker 1: top of the LPGA's all time money list, and that's

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Speaker 1: despite not competing since the two thousand and eight season.

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Speaker 1: Now the money keeps going up and up and up

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Speaker 1: for the ladies. So I'm going to start with Lela

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Speaker 1: and end up bringing Anika this paradox. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: talk about a golfer that great boy, When is that

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Speaker 1: next level going to happen when Anika is now number two?

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Speaker 1: And should it have happened earlier? Should they have put

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Speaker 1: more money into winning these tournaments.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, first off, Anaka is the greatest, so you know,

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Speaker 9: we're all with a legend and you know, her legend, legend,

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Speaker 9: legendary staff is still stands. But you're absolutely right it

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Speaker 9: should that, you know, with all due respect to Anika,

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Speaker 9: this should have toppled earlier. But the reality is the

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Speaker 9: money is still starting to flow into the sport. So

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Speaker 9: I think, you know, give it time. People are paying attention.

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Speaker 9: You see brands like Eccenture signing up to support the

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Speaker 9: game in different ways and offset expenses and you know,

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Speaker 9: all of that good stuff. So so I think again

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Speaker 9: people are waking up to the importance and the opportunity

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Speaker 9: in women's sports and that should translate to higher pay

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Speaker 9: over time.

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Speaker 2: Anika, last question I have for you. You're now a

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Speaker 2: mother of two, you have a daughter, you have a son.

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Speaker 2: What's their golf game like? And you know, I'm just

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Speaker 2: curious if you have any influence over that. Maybe you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're you know, free later on you want to

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Speaker 2: kind of help me work on my swing.

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Speaker 4: Because absolute question, absolutely awful.

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Speaker 2: No, no, but but seriously, I mean, like obviously you

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Speaker 2: know you have children. What's that like being a mother?

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Speaker 2: And into he's the age you were mentioning an ile before,

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Speaker 2: and we kid about University of Arizona, but with what's

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Speaker 2: going on for today's student athletes, it's got to be

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Speaker 2: a point of of of at least a topic for

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Speaker 2: conversation in your household.

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Speaker 6: Now, yeah, of course it is. Yeah, I was wondering

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Speaker 6: how long that for that question was going to come

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Speaker 6: up there, Damn. But anyway I am. You know, I'm

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Speaker 6: a proud, proud mom of too with my husband Mike

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Speaker 6: and him and golf is obviously a big deal in

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Speaker 6: our family. You know, Mike's staid, Jeremy, he played on tour,

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Speaker 6: he was a represented the United States and the Ryder Cup.

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Speaker 6: So there's a little you know, golf in the blood,

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Speaker 6: I would say. And you know, Will our son, he's twelve.

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Speaker 6: He loves to play. You know, he plays the US

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Speaker 6: Kids stuff and you know he did a little driver

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Speaker 6: chip and pot and you know he's played a few

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Speaker 6: Hurricane events and it's just a great, you know, great

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Speaker 6: sport to be part of a family. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I play a lot with him in practice, which is

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Speaker 6: good because he's motivating me. He's getting me edergized a

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Speaker 6: little better. We're having fun doing that. But you know,

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Speaker 6: who knows. I mean, he's so young, and you know,

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Speaker 6: we'll see what the future will bring. As far as golf,

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Speaker 6: I just want him to have a good time. And

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Speaker 6: I think as a parent, I think you just wake

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Speaker 6: up in the morning. You want them to be healthy

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Speaker 6: and happy and pursue what they enjoy. And it's fun

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Speaker 6: that it's golf because we know a little bit about it.

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Speaker 6: And you know, of course sometimes I wish she would

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Speaker 6: listen a little bit more. I'm just his mom, right,

556
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Speaker 6: so when I say I know a little bit about

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Speaker 6: this game, it's like, I got it, mom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's fling.

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Speaker 1: That's excuse me, because that's a damn shame. You've got

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Speaker 1: the greatest l gp A golfer.

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Speaker 2: His mom.

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Speaker 8: Your mom.

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Speaker 1: The mom's the l p g A. She is the

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Speaker 1: top of the top.

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Speaker 5: Some things don't change.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm gonna, I'm gonna, but we

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Speaker 1: got to wrap this up. But I'm going to ask

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Speaker 1: you the same question that I asked Lela. Who do

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Speaker 1: you think is going to break your money back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No, that's a good, good question. I mean, obviously, I'm

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Speaker 6: proud of how far. It's taking me so far, but

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Speaker 6: it's just a matter of time until that, you know,

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Speaker 6: record will be broken. I think, you know, just in

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Speaker 6: my case, the keys, I played for so long, so

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Speaker 6: you know, I think a lot of the younger players

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Speaker 6: their careers haven't been as long and therefore haven't been

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Speaker 6: able to catch me. But now when the persones are higher,

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Speaker 6: it's tough to tell. But I mean it's you look

580
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Speaker 6: at this, and I mean, if they can stay there

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Speaker 6: for ten years, there's no doubt that some of the

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Speaker 6: top players will pass because I mean, just you know,

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Speaker 6: next week, I mean you have, you know, a big

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Speaker 6: purse for a smaller field, and you know US Open

585
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Speaker 6: was a ten million dollar perse so who knows, it's

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Speaker 6: probably one of the upcoming here. You know, Roseanne could

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Speaker 6: be one of them, right, She's just having a fabulous,

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Speaker 6: fabulous year, won her first LPGA tournaments that she played in.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, we'll follow. It's a kind of a fun

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Speaker 6: race to see.

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Speaker 1: We keep saying the greatest lpg A golf forever, but

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Speaker 1: I want to drop that, Monica and just say one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest golfers ever period, har none, Because Anika Sorenstein,

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Speaker 1: you are magnificent.

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Speaker 5: She's a need a law same She's just Honica.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Bonica, Bonica fifty nine. Let's say that that way. Also,

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Speaker 1: Leila Shrinovasen, Chief executive Officer of Parody. Both of you all,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much of being so kind to take

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Speaker 1: some time out and talk with us on the Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Business of Sports. We really do appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, no, thank you for.

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Speaker 1: Having coming up. We talked with La Clippers President of

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Speaker 1: Business Operations, Gillian Zucker. You are listening to the Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio around the world. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us on the Bloomberg Business of Sports show.

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Speaker 1: Will we explore the big money issues in the world

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Speaker 1: the sports on Michael Barr along with Scarlett Foo and

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Speaker 1: Damian Sassour. The Clippers are making big moves on and

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Speaker 1: off the court.

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Speaker 2: Off the court. On the court, the Clippers have brought

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Speaker 2: in all star James Harden, paired him alongside Kawhi Leonard,

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Speaker 2: mister Barr and Paul George.

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Speaker 4: Fights through a few screens, launches a contested to futter

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Speaker 4: and not sitting down first bucket for James Harten.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the family.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, and the franchise is ready to make

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Speaker 1: a big move into Inglewood, into a brand new facility.

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Speaker 1: This week, we had the pleasure speaking in person with

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Speaker 1: the Clippers President of Business Operations, Gillian Zucker. She came

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Speaker 1: into our studios in New York we clean it up too,

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Speaker 1: to talk with us about the new digs, her career

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Speaker 1: and more. Let's listen to a bit of our conversation.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna ask the first question. It's like, look,

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Speaker 1: and let's just get this out of the way with

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Speaker 1: right now, your team is looking fairly nascent here. So

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Speaker 1: what do you think, I mean, were you How far

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Speaker 1: do you guys think you're going to go and how

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Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Well, obviously we think we're going to go all the way.

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Speaker 3: That's the goal, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, that was my stupid question.

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Speaker 2: He likes to pitch a soft Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to win it all and hey, if

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Speaker 3: it's not this year, we're gonna just keep coming and

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Speaker 3: coming and coming and coming until we get there.

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Speaker 2: Well, Gillian, I imagine you're in New York today because

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Speaker 2: the Knicks are playing the Clippers this evening. If I'm

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Speaker 2: not mistaken by the way, Gillian is in studio. So

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Speaker 2: my question for you is this, James Harden is going

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Speaker 2: to make his appearance. Will Steve Bomber be there? And Scarlet.

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Speaker 2: I'm asking for Scarlet because you know she's desperate to

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Speaker 2: meet him, and if you have an extra ticket for her,

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Speaker 2: really nice. It's a huge Microsoft fan by the way.

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Speaker 9: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well we can certainly arrange for you to

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Speaker 3: meet Steve, but it won't be tonight, so you know

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Speaker 3: he'll be watching the game, but it won't be live.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 2: But in all seriousness, the Into It Dome, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is your the business side of the Clippers franchise, right,

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Speaker 2: and obviously you're moving to the Into It Dome next year,

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Speaker 2: right inn Anglo, California. Talk to us about what that

653
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Speaker 2: means for you, for your job and for your fan base.

654
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Speaker 3: Well, this project has been absolutely incredible, but it's people

655
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: think these things just pop up overnight. To have all

656
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Speaker 3: these people who on their way to so Fi say wow,

657
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I saw Into It dol mething just

658
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: came up out of nowhere, And I'm thinking we've been

659
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: working on this for eight years, so it is definitely

660
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: a labor of love and every little detail has been considered,

661
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Speaker 3: and you know, we like to describe it that has

662
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Speaker 3: just been built differently. It's really built in the context

663
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Speaker 3: of the fan, like we are the biggest fans of

664
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Speaker 3: sport and music, and how do we build a venue

665
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Speaker 3: that provides an opportunity for people to experience it in

666
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Speaker 3: a way they never have before.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing and congratulations. I'm sure it's a project that

668
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Speaker 4: you've been seeing through and it's great to have it

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Speaker 4: come to fruition. I want to go back to Steve

670
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Speaker 4: Bomber for a minute, because I am mildly obsessed. I'm

671
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Speaker 4: just curious what it's like to work for someone, work

672
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Speaker 4: with and work for someone like Steve Bomber, because he

673
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Speaker 4: is just one of the most animated and enthusiastic chief

674
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Speaker 4: executives out there, and I'm sure that translates into what

675
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Speaker 4: he brings to the franchise and how you go about

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Speaker 4: your role.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think people always talk about his passion and him

679
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: going crazy as you watch him on television cheering on

680
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: the team, and people talk about his wealth. But I

681
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: think what people don't talk about enough is his heart,

682
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Speaker 3: who he is, the things he does in the community,

683
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Speaker 3: how passionate.

684
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Speaker 8: He is about.

685
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Speaker 3: Lifting up the fortunes of young people, and I don't

686
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Speaker 3: think people talk enough about his genius. He is one

687
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: of the smartest people probably on the planet, certainly the

688
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: smartest I've ever had the opportunity to work closely with.

689
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Speaker 3: And I feel like every time I have a conversation

690
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: with him, I learned something new. But he brings all

691
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: of that together in this way that when we talk

692
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: about the team and teamwork and bonding and lifting up

693
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Speaker 3: brands and creating something for the environment that we live in,

694
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's pretty extraordinary. He loves fans and doing

695
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Speaker 3: things for fans in the community, and I think that

696
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: all of that shines through and who he is as

697
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Speaker 3: a person.

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Speaker 1: You bring twenty five years plus of sports experience into

699
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Speaker 1: all of this, and that's from everything from obviously the NBA,

700
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Speaker 1: then you went to the NFL, also baseball, hockey, motorves sports.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love motors.

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Speaker 8: Just to let you know, it is fantastic.

703
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Speaker 1: All that knowledge it comes into play, and it seems

704
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Speaker 1: like it's pretty much since you're dealing with the major

705
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Speaker 1: food groups, something that you can deal with.

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Speaker 3: When you're with the India, Yeah, I mean, I think

707
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: I certainly have a unique history for somebody who's in

708
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Speaker 3: the role that I'm in, given that I've worked in

709
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: so many different sports. But you know, remembering when you

710
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: know I graduated from college, this wasn't something that people

711
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: talked about. There weren't sports business schools that you could

712
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: go to, that weren't degrees.

713
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 8: That you could get.

714
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Speaker 3: And in fact, I didn't even know it was a career.

715
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: I was just a fan and I sort of fell

716
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 3: into it by good fortune. I was a writing major,

717
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: and I was following around a reporter and he was

718
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: covering a minor league hockey game, and I remember standing

719
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: there watching this guy who was like sort of bouncing

720
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: around the arena doing all kinds of different things. He

721
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: had a little hat and he pulled it out and

722
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: you heard this whole group yell, and then somebody won

723
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Speaker 3: the hat. And he's down on the ice between the

724
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: period throwing frisbees into the crowd. And when he came

725
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: back up to the press box, I said, Hey, what

726
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: do you do here? And he said, I'm the head

727
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: of operations, And I thought, that's it. That's what I'm

728
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: going to do with my life.

729
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: So take us back to twenty fourteen, Right, I mean

730
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Speaker 2: when you actually applied for the opportunity to work with

731
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Speaker 2: Steve to work for the Clippers. Right, I believe you

732
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: were in motorsports at the time. Yes, and you know,

733
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Speaker 2: graduate of Hamilton College, you know, cheering.

734
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Speaker 8: On the crowd, graduate of Hamilton College.

735
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Speaker 2: So Gillian, you know take when you were drawn to

736
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Speaker 2: that opportunity. You know, it was a very different world

737
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Speaker 2: for female executives, and certainly in the front office. What

738
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Speaker 2: is what do you feel Steve saw in you? A

739
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: and B? What were your goals taking on that jobs?

740
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: And then see if you wouldn't mind if it's a

741
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: three part question, sorry to do this, Steve is how

742
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: has how has the role lived up to your expectations

743
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: at that how's it changed? How have you evolved? And

744
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: what you want out of it today relative to what

745
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Speaker 2: you wanted in twenty fourteen.

746
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Speaker 5: That was an eight part question.

747
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: Did I rush it?

748
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Scarlet, Oh no, it was a card all

749
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Speaker 5: the ground.

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Speaker 9: All right.

751
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: I'll try to take it in pieces and let's see

752
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: if I remember. But you might have to remind me

753
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: along the way. Okay, So to start with, Okay, in

754
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, I was. I was working in motorsports. I

755
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: had been there quite a long time and the role

756
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: that I was in, and they kept sort of changing

757
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: around the things I was responsible for to keep it interesting,

758
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: and I felt like I was continuing to learn, but

759
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: really really enjoyed my time with NASCAR. Some incredible people

760
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: and it is a wonderful sport. And yeah, but I

761
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: was driving home and I heard on the radio that

762
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: Steve Bomber was buying the LA Clippers, and I thought,

763
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Speaker 3: that's it.

764
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Speaker 8: That I need to be the president of that team.

765
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Speaker 8: That is my next job.

766
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Speaker 3: But I didn't know him, and so I started calling

767
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: everyone I knew to say, hey, do you know Steve

768
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Speaker 3: Bomber or do you know where he's going to be

769
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: or how I might run into him or And I

770
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: engaged this massive network of people, like literally every person

771
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: that I had ever met in my life, and said,

772
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: if you run into him, I just want you to

773
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: tell him one thing, tell him that he needs to

774
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: meet me and say my name. And so they were

775
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: like okay. And so he started as.

776
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Speaker 5: A month long campaign.

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Speaker 8: Oh yes, it took a very very very long time.

778
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Speaker 3: Wow, the time he is interviewing people who have been

779
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: in the role who you know, have had other experience

780
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: in the NBA. He was mostly looking for somebody who

781
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: had an MBA experience, and I had all of this

782
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: experience running various different sports franchises.

783
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Speaker 8: But not in the NBA.

784
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: So I did become friendly with the recruiter, flew to

785
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Speaker 3: New York and met them, and finally at some point

786
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: he gets to he'd split it into buckets. He gets

787
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 3: to bucket three, and bucket three is somebody who's run

788
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 3: a sports franchise but does not have MBA experience. And

789
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Speaker 3: the way they tell the story to me is they said, okay,

790
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: we're in bucket through.

791
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 8: So our first.

792
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: Candidate and he goes, I know, I know Gillian Zugar.

793
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 3: So we met and it was a great first meeting,

794
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: and it was not I don't think it was like

795
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Speaker 3: any interview I'd ever had, because he was really looking

796
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: for stories about experience, And now that I know him

797
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: a little bit better, I think what he was really

798
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: looking for were.

799
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Speaker 8: You know, places where you got to a place where

800
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 8: there was an obstacle and you found a way.

801
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Speaker 3: And I think that's just who I am in my

802
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: heart and who I've always been. I don't think I'd

803
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: be in this role if it weren't for that something

804
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: that you know, I've gotten from my parents and my

805
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: friends and the people around me, and I just I'm

806
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: one of those people who never says quit.

807
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 8: So that's what I think he was looking for.

808
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: I like to think that that's what I've delivered on

809
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 3: and we're still here now going on my ninth season.

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Speaker 4: But back in twenty fourteen, there weren't a lot of

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Speaker 4: women like you. It wasn't like you could point to

812
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Speaker 4: someone and say that's someone that i'd like to be,

813
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 4: you know, model my career after anything, like you had

814
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Speaker 4: to kind of create one for yourself.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was at the time proudly the first

817
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: president of MBA franchise, and now I am proudly not

818
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Speaker 3: And I think that that's really exciting as well.

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Speaker 7: This.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody listening and including everybody in the room here,

821
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: thank you, bar for bringing the damn room down when

822
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: you ask this question. But I am because I did

823
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Speaker 1: this recently as a story for News as according to

824
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Speaker 1: a study, women who managed to make it to the

825
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Speaker 1: top tend to be toppled faster than men. And what

826
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Speaker 1: they're getting at is the glass cliff scenario where according

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Speaker 1: to this scenario where they looked at twelve global snack

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Speaker 1: exchanges back in twenty eight the women lasted five point

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Speaker 1: two years, but the men lasted eight point one years.

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Speaker 1: But you've disapproved.

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Speaker 5: I got a lobby all the way you.

832
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Speaker 1: Can add them together and you're still there. But I

833
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: do ask can you comment on that? And what do

834
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Speaker 1: you think about that? And you know there's always something

835
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Speaker 1: higher where we need to get to parody and equality.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of times when women have

837
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: an opportunity to come into a role like this, it's

838
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: because there's been some sort of situation that's occurred, and

839
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Speaker 3: no different than what happened with the Clippers. I mean

840
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 3: obviously a franchise that had a well publicized situation with

841
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: their owner and you're talking about Brandon. It was the

842
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: reason I wanted the job, you know, an opportunity to

843
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 3: take what I feel like was the most tarnished brand

844
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Speaker 3: in all of sports and transform it into something that's admired.

845
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Speaker 3: And I think you know we're well on our way

846
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: to doing that. You were talking and I think in

847
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: part two of your question about the goals of the

848
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: franchise and That's really what it was when I when

849
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: I first began, I said, you know, we can we

850
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: do that. And I feel like at this point we

851
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: have done that. I think that this is an admired franchise.

852
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: It's certainly a place where the top players.

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Speaker 8: In the league want to land.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a franchise that really cares about its fans,

855
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: that really cares about its athletes, that care about its employees,

856
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: that care about its community. And so I think that

857
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Speaker 3: that is something to be admired. And now it's you know,

858
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Speaker 3: where where can we get to from here? You know,

859
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: like Steve, I want to be first. We want to

860
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Speaker 3: be number one in every category there is. So we're

861
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Speaker 3: going to just keep going.

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Speaker 1: That's La Clipper's President of business Operations, Gillian Zucker. Stick around.

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Speaker 1: We got more where they're coming up next? That straight

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Speaker 1: ahead on the blue Burg Business of Sports from Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Radio around the world. This is the Bloomberg Business of

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Speaker 1: Sports show where we explore the big money issues in

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Speaker 1: the world of sports on Michael BarreR along with Scarlett

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Speaker 1: fou and Damian Sasaur. This week we had a very

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Speaker 1: special guest in studio. We got the vacuums out and

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Speaker 1: everything cleaned up all the dust. LA Clippers President of

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Speaker 1: Business Operations, Gillian Zucker, stopped by to talk with us

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Speaker 1: about the franchise and their move to new digs in Inglewood.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to a bit more of that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Well, Gilly, and you talk about overcoming obstacles, you know,

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Speaker 2: and you mentioned a few things here. You talk about,

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Speaker 2: you know, when Steve purchased the franchise, with the state

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Speaker 2: of the franchise at that point in time, and what

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Speaker 2: was you know, what had happened to it. You talk about,

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Speaker 2: you know, the acquisition of James Harden, you talk about

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard. You know, these are people who have their

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Speaker 2: fair share of risk. I'd like you to talk about

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Speaker 2: the culture of taking risk inside the Los Angeles Clippers

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Speaker 2: franchise because it seems to me that, you know, you

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Speaker 2: guys are not afraid to put yourself out there and

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Speaker 2: take a bit of risk.

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Speaker 8: I think you have to.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got to take big swings to to

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Speaker 3: get get a grand slam, right Like, That's the way

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Speaker 3: that it works. And I think that providing an environment

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Speaker 3: that's safe to do that is something that Steve's done

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Speaker 3: an extraordinary job at So you know, we can try

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Speaker 3: a lot of things and if they don't work out,

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Speaker 3: you know, you you do need to pivot quickly understand

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Speaker 3: where you've got something where maybe it's time to cut

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Speaker 3: bait or to change. And we and we do that.

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Speaker 3: I think we're constantly questioning ourselves and what we're doing

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Speaker 3: well and what we're not doing well. And it's about

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Speaker 3: being humble all the time and knowing that tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: We have to be better than we are today, no

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Speaker 8: matter where we are.

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Speaker 4: I'm really curious when you talk about overcoming obstacles, how

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Speaker 4: big an obstacle is the LA Lakers Because in markets

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Speaker 4: and big markets where there are two teams that a

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Speaker 4: LA Lakers are dominant, they just have this this halo

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Speaker 4: around them, for better or for worse. Yeah, maybe not,

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Speaker 4: it's not always a halo, but it feels like when

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Speaker 4: you're trying to carve out and craft your own brand,

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Speaker 4: it's always in opposition to the Lakers.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that we really spend a lot of

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Speaker 3: time thinking about how we are in context to anyone else.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of brands in La. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you can look at the Dodgers, you can look at

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Speaker 3: the Rams. You know, there's a lot to compete with.

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Speaker 3: There's eleven different sports franchises, and it's constantly growing. So

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, when you look at the marketplace,

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Speaker 3: you have to look at the fact that it's a

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Speaker 3: big one. It's a very very large market and there's

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Speaker 3: lots of room for opportunity. And we've done a tremendous

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Speaker 3: amount of research on the marketplace and what we know

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Speaker 3: is there are millions of fans up for grabs, millions,

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Speaker 3: and so we just have to win them over to us.

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Speaker 8: And that's what we're focused on.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of winning over to me, which you already did NASCAR?

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Speaker 1: Have you called up Ryan Blaney?

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Speaker 6: I have it?

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Speaker 8: Do I need to do that.

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Speaker 1: The NASCAR season? Just in that congratulations Ryan Landey, you

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Speaker 1: won the championship. It's NASCAR. When you were there, tell

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Speaker 1: us about it, and I know, you know, here comes

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Speaker 1: motorhead bar coming in the view, But tell us about it,

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Speaker 1: what it was.

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Speaker 8: Like, what it was like being in NASCAR.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because I was there sort of

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Speaker 3: during what's described as the meteoric ries of the sport,

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Speaker 3: and I've been fortunate. I feel like I've been lots

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Speaker 3: of places where I've had that opportunity. Certainly when I

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Speaker 3: was in minor league baseball it was similar. And you know,

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Speaker 3: when you're around a sport where you get to experience

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Speaker 3: as people are finding it and realizing how amazing it

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Speaker 3: is and jumping on the bandwagon and then becoming part

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Speaker 3: of your success, it's really like an extraordinary experience of community.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like we're having a very similar experience

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Speaker 3: at the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: You know, I have to ask you. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of stadiums in Los Angeles now right, I

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Speaker 2: mean a lot of venues, a lot, you know, and

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Speaker 2: right now the Intilm is going to be right near that.

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Speaker 2: I think the key of Horns are going to be

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Speaker 2: right near so far yea, how are you going to

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Speaker 2: differentiate that experience from those other venues? For example, when

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Speaker 2: a big act is coming in and I think it's

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Speaker 2: eighteen thousand seats, right, is that the arena or mind it's.

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Speaker 3: A little bit less than eighteen thousand seats, And you

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Speaker 3: know that's one of the things that differentiates it. The

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Speaker 3: way that it's been built so It's been built for

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Speaker 3: basketball and music, and what we're interested in having is

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Speaker 3: the most intimate experience that you can possibly have to

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Speaker 3: be able to watch a game, or to watch a

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Speaker 3: concert or a comedian. And what that means is that

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Speaker 3: you're close to whatever it is that you want to

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Speaker 3: be watching. So when you stand or you have to

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Speaker 3: stand right now because there's no seats in there, but

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Speaker 3: when you stand in the last row at into a home,

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Speaker 3: you are so close to the court or the stage.

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Speaker 8: It's incredible. We were in there a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: I was with Steve and we walked in after the

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Speaker 3: floor had been poured, so they poured the concrete for

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Speaker 3: the floor, and it was the first time that we

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Speaker 3: actually got to stand down there and look up and

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Speaker 3: he said, wow, looks really and I was.

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Speaker 5: Like, that's great.

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Speaker 4: So aside from concerts and basketball games, including the GI

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Speaker 4: League Ontario Clippers, what do you envision that space being

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Speaker 4: used for our musical acts, going to keep it occupied

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Speaker 4: the times when the Clippers aren't playing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely been built for music as well. We've

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Speaker 3: spent a tremendous amount of time on the acoustics. A

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Speaker 3: lot of what we've done with the architecture is to

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Speaker 3: minimize the number of hard surfaces so we don't get

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Speaker 3: the kind of reverberation that some venues have that you

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Speaker 3: create an environment that you know isn't as conducive for

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Speaker 3: musical acts. And so hopefully we've got this right. We're

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Speaker 3: really excited about it. We've got the best people in

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Speaker 3: the world working on it, and we think it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a really, really special place for music. So

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Speaker 3: we're in the process of beginning booking now. We've been

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Speaker 3: taking all kinds of managers and artists and agents through

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Speaker 3: the building and I think everybody's had a very similar

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Speaker 3: experience when they look at it really feels very very

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Speaker 3: close and tight and special.

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Speaker 8: I think it's going to be a great place for music.

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Speaker 1: Well, Gillian Zucker, we are excited for you because this

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Speaker 1: is it's always neat when you see the baby being

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Speaker 1: born and it's coming out here. Who you are, the

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Speaker 1: President of Business Operations, Los Angeles Clippers, Gillian Zucker, good

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Speaker 1: luck this season, and thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us here in the Bloomberg Business of Sports.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me.

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