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Speaker 1: Obviously I have not spoken to him. Um, you found

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Speaker 1: in any which way. Good morning and welcome in Jags

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Speaker 1: Drive Time. Brian Sexton's John Owes your Ashland Sullivan. Um,

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Speaker 1: back last year, and Clowney and Whitney, mercialists did not

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Speaker 1: have a very good year last year. Um, compare that

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Speaker 1: now with Calais, Campbell, Unike and Gockway and without Fowler,

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Speaker 1: now you plug in Alan uh, that to me is

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Speaker 1: a toss up. Yeah, I would still have to give

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Speaker 1: the edge because it's a group that is, because there's

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Speaker 1: three veterans. I would think the slight edge if you're

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Speaker 1: looking at it, you know, from an objective point of view,

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Speaker 1: would be the Texans only because there's three veterans and

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen Josh Allen actually do it. Potential wise,

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Speaker 1: if Josh Allen's as good as we think, he's gonna be,

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Speaker 1: then edge of the Jaguars. But I just have a

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Speaker 1: tough time. You know, is Alan better than Merciless right now?

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Speaker 1: Is in Gockway Clowne Okay, call that a draw, call

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Speaker 1: the first to a draw. I don't know that Allen

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Speaker 1: is better than Merciless coming in until we see it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got me on the Clowney and Gockway

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Speaker 1: thing because Clowney is so much more of a difficult

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Speaker 1: matchup than a Gockway, and Dockway is a a speed

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Speaker 1: rusher with a couple of moves. So I think you're right,

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Speaker 1: got to give the edge to the Texans there. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not Merciless to me was not a factor last

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Speaker 1: year at all um, and so I think that to

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Speaker 1: me is more of a draw but if Clowney is

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Speaker 1: on the field, they're number one because Clowney is so

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Speaker 1: physically overpowering and they move him around in so many

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Speaker 1: different places because of his rare athleticism. Um but and

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Speaker 1: the other side of the coin is is that the

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Speaker 1: best pass rusher, the best player that the Jaguars put

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Speaker 1: out there is Clay's Campbell and he's thirty two, And

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Speaker 1: at some point you start to wonder, well, will he

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Speaker 1: be half a step slower than he was? Can he

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Speaker 1: still perform at an all pro level in his eleventh

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Speaker 1: NFL season? He least yes, Yeah, so yeah, so the edge,

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Speaker 1: You're right, the edge has to go there. The edge

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Speaker 1: has to go attentions there. But you know, the Jaguars

464
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Speaker 1: production has not been far behind over the and I

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Speaker 1: think the Jaguars, because it wasn't as elite as we

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Speaker 1: saw in two thousand seventeen januarys have to take a

467
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Speaker 1: small step up to get back to where they were not.

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Speaker 1: It's worth pointing out that the Colts went and signed

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Speaker 1: Justin Houston, and at times last year Houston looked like

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Speaker 1: he still had something in the tag. They're gonna move

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Speaker 1: him indoors, He's gonna play on turf. You know, that's

472
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Speaker 1: made guys faster in the past and giving him that edge.

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Speaker 1: So I think that the Colts pass rush plus the

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Speaker 1: kid that they drafted from TCU is supposed to be

475
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Speaker 1: a track star. We'll see if he's got any pass

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Speaker 1: rush moves. Um, and they're thinking this year will be

477
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Speaker 1: a better year in Nashville with the kid that they

478
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Speaker 1: drafted from Boston College last year his name escapes me

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Speaker 1: um and Henry Henry's last name, and the veteran from

480
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Speaker 1: Miami that they brought in whose name is escaping me.

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Speaker 1: Also the kid from Penn State who played in Canada

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Speaker 1: who came down here. You well, I was hoping your

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Speaker 1: your memory wouldn't fade you fade on you also. But

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Speaker 1: all right, let's look at it, bide receiver, because that

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Speaker 1: is something where the Jaguars are near the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the total pull. You see the dif between DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: at the Texans. That's strong number one receiver d D.

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Speaker 1: Westbroog guess is that for the Jaguars. But that's that's

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Speaker 1: a drop off. Yeah, I mean, I think if you're

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Speaker 1: looking at the receivers, DeAndre Hopkins is clearly the best

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Speaker 1: in this entire division, and I think Will Fuller is okay,

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Speaker 1: but when you've got a guy like that on the

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Speaker 1: other side, it certainly helps that. So I put them

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Speaker 1: at the top. I like what the Colts did? You know?

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Speaker 1: They added the big guy from Carolina. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: his name either, but they signed They signed the kid

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Speaker 1: from Ohio State, Paris campbell Um. And you know Tennessee

498
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Speaker 1: has spent some draft capital. They brought an AJ Neil

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Speaker 1: Are not AJ Needle, a J. Brown from from Old

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Speaker 1: miss A big deal for you, Uh, Tennessee. They've been

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Speaker 1: talking about Corey Davis being elite. They took him in

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Speaker 1: the top five and he made place last year. If

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Speaker 1: he develops into what they think, which is a top

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Speaker 1: five receiver, which means you're mean top five pick, which

505
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Speaker 1: means you're a top ten overall receiver, and they're very

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Speaker 1: dangerous um clearly from a national perspective, and until they

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Speaker 1: show at the Jaguars or fourth here again, we've talked

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Speaker 1: about they believe in their guys more strongly than our

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Speaker 1: observers do. Uh. It will be a huge tell. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If if there's good receivers they think they are, they'll

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Speaker 1: be much better than people think they're gonna be true.

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Speaker 1: But but I think when you look at it just

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Speaker 1: on paper there right there for yeah, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: wrap it up with the secondary. Obviously, Corner is very

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Speaker 1: talented for the Jaguars, but without Sean Gibson, who's now

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Speaker 1: with the Texans, the safeties are kind of a tossip

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Speaker 1: only of Ronnie Harrison's starting. That's what do you guys

518
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Speaker 1: think about the secondary? To wrap up the sup I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I thought Brian was gonna go, um, well, the Jaguars

520
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Speaker 1: secondary should be the best out of this bunch, purely

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Speaker 1: dependent on are the safeties as good as they believe

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Speaker 1: they are. They think that Harrison is good. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: Nickels of the Jaguars, Hayden, Ramsey and boy A should

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Speaker 1: be the best trio of nick or the best trio

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Speaker 1: of corners in the league. That's what they're built on,

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Speaker 1: the ability to stop the receivers and at the past

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Speaker 1: rush to get home. So Juarsh should be the best.

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Speaker 1: I just a matter of how Harrison and Jared Wilson

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Speaker 1: play well. And I think that the the the coundar

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Speaker 1: the the next best is that group that they've assembled

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Speaker 1: over in in Houston bringing in. They brought Gibson in,

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Speaker 1: and the year before they they I can't remember a name,

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Speaker 1: a damn name to save my life. Today, it's okay,

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Speaker 1: the kid from here, the Nickel year two years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they brought you were talking about safety. I'm sorry, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I've gone on to corners. Uh. They've brought

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Speaker 1: you know, They've they've picked some pieces together. Bradley Roby,

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Speaker 1: I can remember that came in from Denver, and I

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Speaker 1: think I think they're going to have a their group.

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Speaker 1: Because of their past, Rush doesn't have to be as

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Speaker 1: the elite as many in the league do, although Aaron

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Speaker 1: Colvin and two Shaun Gibson certainly give them an upgrade,

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Speaker 1: and Roby does too. When you've got guys like Clowney

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Speaker 1: and Watt coming off the edge and causing havoc, uh,

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Speaker 1: it makes them that much better. Colvin was a big

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Speaker 1: mystery to them last year. He fell off at the

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Speaker 1: end of last year and I was not active, which

548
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Speaker 1: was a surprise to them because they thought he would

549
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Speaker 1: be a major force. I'll be interested to see how

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Speaker 1: Aaron does over there this year. I went back and

551
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: was looking for names. Cam Wake and Harold Landry are

552
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Speaker 1: the two pass rushers in Tennessee figuring it out now well.

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Speaker 1: And with Wake, the question is can he still be

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Speaker 1: what he had been Achilles And he was very good

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Speaker 1: for Miami last year, even an advanced age, But Harold

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Speaker 1: Landry supposed to be a guy steps up. It canna

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Speaker 1: be an interesting division race this year because I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can put your finger. I think it's easy

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Speaker 1: for the national folks to put their finger on the Colts,

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Speaker 1: but then when you look deeper, you see that the

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Speaker 1: jack should have beaten the Colts twice and they were

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Speaker 1: in the last place in the division, right if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for a fumble, I was shot green at the

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Speaker 1: twenty one yard line. They at least sent it to

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Speaker 1: overtime and then they shut him out here with the

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Speaker 1: he's a whole lot closer than people think. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's the one division in the NFL that

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be surprised if any, if any of the

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Speaker 1: four teams won, And I think perhaps because the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are five and eleven last year, it's not perceived that

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Speaker 1: it's been an exciting bunch of emails, I'm sure this week.

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Speaker 1: Well it's been all Talvin all the time, as you

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Speaker 1: about the top of the show, with the Instagram post

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Speaker 1: again I can't asize enough that the fan reaction to

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Speaker 1: this is not the main story, but it's the story

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Speaker 1: we have to talk about because we don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going on in talent Um. I would think right now,

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Speaker 1: and I guess that's what's when you cut through that,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen knows where his locker is, what are the

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Speaker 1: chances he plays strong side linebacker on first and second

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Speaker 1: down and rushes the passer on third downs? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know my wife was writing. Um, I was a

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Speaker 1: little thrown by the interrottle, a little take it off

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Speaker 1: to be honest, and yet you sent it to me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's how they're going to start it.

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Speaker 1: They made clear last week they want Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: this is their organizational philosophy. They bring in versatile rookies

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Speaker 1: and versatile players. They want them to be good at

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Speaker 1: one thing. First. I think people tend to forget that

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Speaker 1: it's not Madden and it just because a guy has

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Speaker 1: defensive end. There's still a little bit of a learning

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Speaker 1: process as you get into the NFL. UH, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to overload. They did it with Denard a few

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Speaker 1: years back. If you remember, you know, the the weapon thing.

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Speaker 1: He was playing nineteen different positions and he wasn't good

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Speaker 1: at any of them until he finally focused on one

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Speaker 1: and then he was okay. I don't think they would

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Speaker 1: to repeat that mistake with players by the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. If Josh Allen is an absolute monster rush

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Speaker 1: in the pastor, or he's at least got what they

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Speaker 1: want him to know, I think you could see it

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Speaker 1: as a strong side. I don't think that's the initial move.

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Speaker 1: The interesting component here is the addition of dom Capers

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Speaker 1: to the defensive staff and m For those of you

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Speaker 1: don't know the inventor, the creator of Blitzburg, which became

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Speaker 1: the zone blitz to all of a sudden, became popular

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Speaker 1: in every sense around the National Football League um dropping

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Speaker 1: guys into coverage and doing things with guys that generally

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Speaker 1: did one thing really well, either rushed the packer pastor

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Speaker 1: or play linebacker. So I wouldn't be surprised if there

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Speaker 1: wasn't a wrinkle for him in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: But I got the strong sense that he's going to

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Speaker 1: be a pass rusher because going forward is what he

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Speaker 1: does best. That's what you drafted him for. And again

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Speaker 1: people allowing me from people saying, why don't the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: do the wrinkles that the Patriots do? Or you know, well,

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Speaker 1: why don't they You try trickery on defense and ls schemes.

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Speaker 1: Tricky schemes aren't always the answer. There are many many

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Speaker 1: teams that don't do it. There's some coordinators that like

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Speaker 1: to do it. Wade Phillips loves to do it. Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick loves to do Those are great defensive coaches. They're

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Speaker 1: also made great defensive coaches who believe in, let's let

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Speaker 1: our guys play fast and know what they're doing. I

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Speaker 1: expect the Jaguars to continue leaning that way, but the

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Speaker 1: Don Caper's element should bring a wrinkle of at least

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Speaker 1: some new wrinkles as it well. They'll have a package

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Speaker 1: for him that includes some things, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: going forward is is while you drafted him, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with Adam from Jacksonville. Would I

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Speaker 1: be too far far out on a limit? I thought

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Speaker 1: that Myles jack Will played better at week sidelinebacker than Telton. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're very far out in that. I

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Speaker 1: think Miles could clearly do it, and he could clearly

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Speaker 1: do it at a high level. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of things that play there. Miles, justas going into

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Speaker 1: his fourth year, he's already been He had a rookie

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Speaker 1: year where he played strong a little bit and then

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Speaker 1: took over for uh Paul listening scot first year all right, um,

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Speaker 1: the second year he changed positions. The third year he

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Speaker 1: went full time. So he's already had three different kind

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Speaker 1: of role. Do you want to move him one it's more?

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Speaker 1: And do you want to shake up? Moving Miles would

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Speaker 1: mean moving Miles and then you would have a new

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Speaker 1: metal linebacker, and then you would have maybe a new

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Speaker 1: strong side. Do you want to change everything or just

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Speaker 1: change one thing over on the week side? So I

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Speaker 1: think Miles could do it. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: necessarily the move they'll want to make for continuity's sake

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Speaker 1: and for Miles to say, well, to answer his question,

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Speaker 1: you know, could Miles be a better week side linebacker

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Speaker 1: against the run for sure, and he has good instincts

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Speaker 1: for the ball. What set Telvin apart was he had

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Speaker 1: that rare sense of being in the right place at

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Speaker 1: the right time. Yeah, and I think Miles has a

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Speaker 1: little bit of that and he does. I think a

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Speaker 1: week I think you would maybe see more of that,

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Speaker 1: you know, freedom come out. He has more bulk and

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Speaker 1: more strength at the point of attack, so he might

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Speaker 1: be better in the in that than Televinia. That's what's

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Speaker 1: so intriguing. There's so many questions. You get a linebacker

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Speaker 1: where they all sort of make sense. You know, hey,

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Speaker 1: would you move A Ryan here? Would you play Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen over here? Could you move Miles? They all make

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Speaker 1: sense because they all have that versatility. I don't expect

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Speaker 1: them to tell us what they're doing, uh a, because

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Speaker 1: why would they and be I don't know that you

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Speaker 1: necessarily know exactly what they're gonna do. The Jake Ryan

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Speaker 1: thing is intriguing to me because he's got some versatility.

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Speaker 1: He gives them some flexibility. But with the A C

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Speaker 1: L you may not see him on the field or

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Speaker 1: on in training camps, So will that limit what they

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Speaker 1: can do with him? And you know, lost in all

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Speaker 1: this seemingly is Leon Jacobs is the strong side backer

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Speaker 1: in his growth. People remember the long touchdown run in

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Speaker 1: to do it and make they dismiss him. Um, But

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Speaker 1: he had moments last year where he flashed as a

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Speaker 1: guy who had all kinds of developmental ability. So you know,

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Speaker 1: he could set in on the strong side over there

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Speaker 1: and you could pop Jake Ryan in the middle if

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Speaker 1: that's what he does and move miles around. They do

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Speaker 1: have some some flexibility, some options, especially if Quincy Williams

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Speaker 1: can find a role for himself. With how many guys

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Speaker 1: they brought in, they definitely have options, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start off top tweets with a guy

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Speaker 1: who has definitely stepped up the past few weeks. That's

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Speaker 1: Jaguar's wide receiver D D. Westbrook. Spent Mother's Day at

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Speaker 1: the hospital. Couldn't spend Mother's Day with his own moms,

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Speaker 1: who went and bought flowers, filled up his entire trunk

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Speaker 1: with a bouquet of roses and delivered it to new

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Speaker 1: moms who had just delivered babies on Mother's Day. Not

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Speaker 1: only that, went to Salvation Army last week, served food

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Speaker 1: and brought a barber to give free haircuts. Also went

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Speaker 1: to London and participated in a middle school flag football tournament.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's really grown up from his rookie season.

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Speaker 1: You know, he came in with some baggage and he

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Speaker 1: was a bit of a pain in the blood as

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Speaker 1: a rookie for a lot of folks. But last year

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Speaker 1: he exploded and this year obviously he gets it. Coming

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Speaker 1: into year three, now he's he's ready to be a leader.

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Speaker 1: And a problem with d Maybe it was a youth thing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he uh clearly works at it, clearly wants to

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Speaker 1: be good. And this is a big year form because

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Speaker 1: they believe that he's gonna have a breakout seats. But

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Speaker 1: this way, when you would go to talk to him

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Speaker 1: as a rookie, he kind of had a sneer on

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Speaker 1: his face. Last year, he sort of accepted the fact

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Speaker 1: that he was going to have to talk. Especially after

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Speaker 1: Mark Kisley went down, he realized that this is willing

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Speaker 1: to do it. He was willing to do it. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see how he grows in the locker room, because

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Speaker 1: clearly off the field he's become a leader. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike k a reporter for the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: who took a picture of the locker room. Eagles left

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Speaker 1: tackle Jason Peters has a frame jersey from Unique and

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Speaker 1: gock Way at his locker seems like a pretty killer

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Speaker 1: endorsement by a legend. So just sitting there, reason killer again,

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Speaker 1: what I was like? That was cool in the eighties? Right?

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Speaker 1: You say killer? Not a lot, but I'll read it

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Speaker 1: off a tweet and Ben hasn't high school. Everything everything

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Speaker 1: was killer I wouldn't. I definitely don't phrase it. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past Unique to send it to

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Speaker 1: him before the Jags played the Eagles to the London

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Speaker 1: kind of a here's what you gotta use too, boy,

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Speaker 1: you might want hang this on your wall. No, it

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Speaker 1: does know you the respect that Unique hats around the

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Speaker 1: late I'm kidding the killer did. But yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with something we saw in Good

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Speaker 1: Morning Football this morning. There was a segment about what

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Speaker 1: team will turn heads In two thousand nineteen, Peter Schreeger

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Speaker 1: picked the Jaguars. Mayor of Jacksonell Lenny Curry. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the other room getting ready, and Molly, his daughter, is

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Speaker 1: going Lenny. Peter has a Jags hat on, and not

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Speaker 1: just a Jags had. He had the draft hat, which

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Speaker 1: was sort of a takeoff of the city flag. Right.

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Speaker 1: I like the draft hat I did. I thought that

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Speaker 1: did well this year. It was bright, I like right now.

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Speaker 1: Moral of the story is they didn't say that they'd

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Speaker 1: be good. They said they would definitely turn heads and

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Speaker 1: there'll be storylines to follow. Well, and that's he pointed

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Speaker 1: to the drama. I heard it too. You know. He

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Speaker 1: pointed to the Telvin drama. He pointed to the addition

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Speaker 1: of Nick Foles and what that does. There are lots

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Speaker 1: of things to talk about when it comes to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, there are enough players in here

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Speaker 1: who will tell you want to talk about uh, Jayleet Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: you can goth Way come to mind. Leonard for net

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Speaker 1: is another storyline. So um, I think it's a fair

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Speaker 1: expression to say that the Jaguars are a bit of

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Speaker 1: a mystery. Um. And it will bear watching all season long.

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Speaker 1: It is. And here's the last thing. I'm Talvin. I

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Speaker 1: said that. It's not that he's not going to be missed,

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Speaker 1: but there are there are many, many, many other positions

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Speaker 1: right now where if they were losing a guy, I

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Speaker 1: would be more concerned. It's look, it's a game of replacement,

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Speaker 1: and you talked about the contract earlier, and you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be able to replace that's not a core vital

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness. Position. And he's five this year and

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Speaker 1: ten five next year and eleven the year after. He's

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Speaker 1: long term money out on the cap for them, So

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Speaker 1: you're right, they wouldn't be able to keep going forward

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Speaker 1: with the weak side linebacker playing at that big number.

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Speaker 1: So his long term future in Jack's Bill was going

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Speaker 1: to be a question mark based on the contract that

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Speaker 1: he had signed it. By the way, he also restructured

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Speaker 1: after the contract would have been a question this year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and he also restructured at pushing money out, So his

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Speaker 1: contract was one of those tricky ones they were going

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Speaker 1: to have to look at, and him now not being

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Speaker 1: a factor in that gives them some flexibility if he's

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Speaker 1: not going to be here, which again he says, we

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Speaker 1: don't know for sure. Um, that flexibility is a bit

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Speaker 1: of a bonus for a team that's up against it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: except that if it could come back next year, so

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Speaker 1: it could troll forward, which again it's topic. Moral of

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Speaker 1: the story is, we have a lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars have an opportunity to turn heads. That's

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Speaker 1: all we have for this week's Jaguars Drive Time. Stay

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Speaker 1: tune next week for the start of O t as

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Speaker 1: the boys are back on the field.