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Speaker 2: They had nothing to do with What to happen with

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Speaker 3: But then you think that Malcolm makes could have solved

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Speaker 2: I think, what what rap do?

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Speaker 1: Is it take our mind away from the things we

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Speaker 1: bullyism based on them being able to kill another Black

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Speaker 1: As long as our oppression is your business model, then

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Speaker 1: Black men actually take all their talents that those people

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Speaker 4: I said, I don't want to sneak a deal because

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Speaker 4: This got lost a billion and a half dollars and

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Speaker 4: day I saw that. I said, put chain on, Nigga,

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Speaker 4: welcome back. It shouldn't be a scary to talk about anything.

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Speaker 4: It's making my job incredibly difficult, to be honest, able

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Speaker 2: Talk to a crowd like this.

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Speaker 4: I love you to death and thank you for the support,

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Speaker 2: You know, I.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that from so many different ways because it's pressure

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Speaker 2: Muster up to.

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Speaker 3: And it's in there with the vibration though. You see

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, It's like damn he.

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Speaker 1: when you watch his career, he's always making the type

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Speaker 2: Exactly, because what is a joke? What really is that

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Speaker 2: it's observable pain. Right.

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Speaker 1: You understand when sometimes stuffs so painful, you got you

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Speaker 3: That's all right, And I think he's always operating in

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Speaker 3: I just said, that doesn't have to race to meet

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Speaker 1: You always feel dangerously close today, Yes, that's what makes

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Experienced podcast, where you

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Speaker 2: I am Big Loan.

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Speaker 3: We always run into each other. You always show me love.

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Speaker 3: It's always been salute you know. I show up when

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Speaker 3: I've seen the Brother Polites and the Brother Benexes and

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with worst case scenario because I don't know

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Speaker 2: But I think those words. I almost feel like we're on.

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Speaker 3: Some ultimate Warrior Hook Hogan shit, but not against each

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Speaker 2: They was never supposed to understanding the.

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Speaker 3: First right, And it's hard to understand what you haven't experienced.

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Speaker 3: So when you speak about us and you don't know us, right,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And you said the black skin is it's always a deterrent.

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time believing that plants don't get

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Speaker 1: Platforms I will not go to. I can't think of

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Speaker 2: You understand me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't been on No Jumpers, so I can't really

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Speaker 2: It's like and it's high level game though.

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Speaker 1: See they absolutely because they also understand that they audience

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's what we come in at because I've

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Speaker 2: And that's why I'm saying I'm evolving my style.

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Speaker 3: And I think that I just want the young creators

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Speaker 1: You have to study the greats. You have to study communication,

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Speaker 2: That is power full.

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Speaker 3: When I say, and that's what what I have like

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Speaker 1: And see, I work good when I get angry. You

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Speaker 3: do it, this shit is like and it's enjoyment when

440
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 3: you look at it.

441
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, when you look back at it, you say,

442
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm cooking. I'm cooking.

443
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that shit. I'm telling you you can't

444
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: give me no money, yeah, like I love to just

445
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: look back at myself and be like, ooh, look at

446
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 3: him in his bag. You know, he done figured it.

447
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: He got a lane, he done figured out what he's

448
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 3: trying to say, and dude trying to stop him and

449
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: he's done. Like this shit is like huh, I love

450
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: that shit. Let's talk about Malcolm X.

451
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 2: Right.

452
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: You said when you spoke with Eye, well you spoke

453
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: to Rishard, you said that you believe Malcolm X and

454
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 3: a lot of the black leaders wouldn't like rap music.

455
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember the exact quote, but I think

456
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: it was like, because of what they're saying, they're perpetuating. Well, yeah,

457
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: I mean I think that, you know, and so anybody

458
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: would understand and admit that that if you go off

459
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 3: the totality of Malcolm X's life, his teachings, the things

460
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: he stood for his his autobiography, right, there's nothing in

461
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: that that would make you think that he would like

462
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: the culture of hip hop as it stands today. Right,

463
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: And so question to you is, do you think that

464
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 3: Malcolm X could have saw rap and used that as

465
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: a tool of any kind of Do you think that

466
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 3: he would cause me, I look at thing.

467
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Would have made this job harder I said, no, I

468
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: think what what rap do is it take our minds

469
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: away from the things we need to be focused on, not.

470
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: Towards right anything that does that as an enemy, But

471
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: could we integrate? Do you think of mind as great

472
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 3: as Malcolm X could see something like rap and say,

473
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: all right, it's an issue. But it's a tool like

474
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 3: a gun. A gun is a right In the wrong

475
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: hands is a powerful thing. Right, you put a gun

476
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 3: in someone's hands that has the wrong intentions or lack

477
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: of understanding of how to use the gun, were dealing

478
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: with a weapon of mass destruct.

479
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: But in a nigga's hands, a gun is a detrimental thing, period. Yes,

480
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: because and that's what we're seeing with hip hop. Everybody

481
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: in hip hop.

482
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 3: You don't think you don't think niggas protect theyselves with guns.

483
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: Not. I'm saying, I believe.

484
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: There's other niggas that nigga didn't have a gun and

485
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: you didn't, y'all wouldn't shoot each other.

486
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: Y'all have to fight the fact, that's a fact. I'm

487
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: not sure. I'm not sure I can say, like, look.

488
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: At the top, we got, you got the top. Rappers

489
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: don't even wrap up our violence.

490
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: Right dre understand me, Kendrick.

491
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: It's the low hanging fruit. It's the niggas that's in

492
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: the street that's giving those weapons that kill each other

493
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: with it, right, and so right now what you have

494
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: to do is you gotta it's the issue is the

495
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: nigga mentality.

496
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, us, that's what it is.

497
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: And we're trying to justify niggasm, understand me and make

498
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: it okay somehow, like we just can we just be niggas?

499
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: Can we just say nigga? Can we do nigga shit?

500
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: And then we try to figure out goddamn words and Ethiopia.

501
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: We try to figure out anything that justifies you understand me.

502
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: We study and try to figure out give me an

503
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: intellectual reason I can still be a nigga. We just

504
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: don't want to become gods. Right, It's like it's an evolution.

505
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: Nobody fights that hard to stay in the fucking same place,

506
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: in the same grade. Imagine somebody trying to graduate, you, bro,

507
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: you still want to be in.

508
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Twelfth grade bugging out?

509
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, I'm trying to graduate, get your diploma, get

510
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: on out of You're like, no, bro, gotta stay here,

511
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: my friends here, family here. I'm used to this environment.

512
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: I've been kicking. I've been I've been in this school

513
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: so long I don't want to leave. No, every level

514
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: of life gotta come with a graduation. So I think

515
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: that hip hop is detrimental because it's remedial. It's not

516
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: a reflection and evolution.

517
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: But it can be everything can So what I'm saying

518
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: is and then we just but we just spoke about

519
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 3: the top names in hip hop don't ain't and so

520
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 3: so we're dealing with hip hop being a tool of

521
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: some sort. When I look at Cold, when I look

522
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: at Kendrick, I'm looking at when I look at Loope

523
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 3: and certain people like that, I look at what hip

524
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: hop could be from a positive stand Yeah.

525
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what it started from, you understand, right,

526
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: So at islam inn and they was calling each other

527
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: gods before niggas, right.

528
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: So, but so now that speaks to you or the

529
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: people who us giving up on what it started at.

530
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's giving up. It's just that we

531
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: see what the corporations push with the spirit of Black

532
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: America push. I don't think that's us in the first place.

533
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: That's capitalism, and now we cook it. That's that's the

534
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: cap is the capitalism that's in rap is that you're

535
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: not doing it for integrity, You're not doing it for honor,

536
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: you're not doing it for nothing.

537
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: It's just money.

538
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: When money becomes the god of rap, it becomes dvan.

539
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: You understand me, because then you a bend over baptist

540
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: the money, right, So you can't show me who is

541
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: the most integrable. It ain't even no more gangsters in rap.

542
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: Ain't no more gangsters in the rap. Everybody that say

543
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: they gangster, they gainst this bullyism based on them being

544
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: able to kill another black man. That shit ain't gangs,

545
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: and it's I'm from Oakland, grew up in Saint Louis

546
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: as well, Like I done seen it at all.

547
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: You understand me.

548
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: Niggas that consider themselves demons that go hunt other black

549
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: men in the drill rap, they talking about hunting other

550
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: black men that ain't gangst understand me. That's that's you

551
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: bullying each other. The doctor Wesley broke it down. That's

552
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: the bully coon, it right. The bully coon like that

553
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: was the one that would go out there and fight

554
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: the other slaves.

555
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: You understand me.

556
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: But you would never fight the Master.

557
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: That's what I want to say too. One thing about that.

558
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: One thing about these dudes, and I'm trying to figure

559
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: out where I stand on it is because we have

560
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 3: a situation where black people us.

561
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: We only show each other how dangerous we are. Right.

562
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: I know, some of the most dangerous dudes I know,

563
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm talking about done things unimaginable, calls pain in the

564
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: black communities, But when they see the police lights behind them,

565
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: they pull right over and go to jail without anyshue.

566
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: I think I think that goes towards the fact that,

567
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: like I said, that's the bully coon issue, right, the master,

568
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: come you run. You're trying to a boy a man,

569
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: right in this environment of people you know don't have

570
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: resources that you can bully, right, So, like you can

571
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: be dangerous, do you got power? You understand me. There's

572
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: people that's dangerous, but they ain't fearless, right. The only

573
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: dangerous to people that don't have power. Right, So, like

574
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: as a as a as a man, if you're in

575
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: an environment and you can put fear in everybody else,

576
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: but then when the real man comes.

577
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: He come out with your hands and he coming like this,

578
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: going to jail for life.

579
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: They kill you, they kill your partner, ain't no retribution.

580
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: None of those things happen. So when I say there's

581
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: no gangster us and rap anymore, I mean like gangster

582
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: in the sense to where like gangsters take care of

583
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: their family, they take care of their community. They have

584
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: power of the economics in their community. Right, what we

585
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: seeing with the y a situation is gangster.

586
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: Sure, let's get into that.

587
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: That's control. Right If you don't have that, Like, what

588
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: who's the point of being a billionaire if you ain't

589
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: got no power though? Right? So like we make we

590
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: make the idea of being seen with billions, which is

591
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: mostly in evaluation. It's illusion, so real being a real

592
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: gangsters like you know in the mafia is I get

593
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: this break down. Think about families and family structures, right,

594
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: like being made men where it's like, look, nobody can

595
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: touch them. You know, he won't come from that family.

596
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Then if you touch him, then the other families go

597
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: do the backup. That's what make a cop that may

598
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: be a coward feel tough because he has backup. Right

599
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: in the streets like America, they everybody got to go

600
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: out there as separate entities. So if you stand up

601
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: against some corruption or get some ignorance. Right, you by yourself, though,

602
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: while the nigga got hold backup, he got a whole gang.

603
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: Behind him, you understand me.

604
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: So being a god is a very lonely proposition, you

605
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: understand me, in the streets. So it got to get

606
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: to a point where you got to establish the same

607
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: framework right for the mafia, for the gangs, for the police,

608
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: for the military, behind righteousness.

609
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: That's the way change, yes, Lord, And when you say that,

610
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: and I want you all to pick that game up,

611
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: because this is this his high level game.

612
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: They got to pick this hell up, and I know

613
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: they digesting it.

614
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: You have soldiers, man, y'all soldiers got to be built

615
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: on the same principal, same mission, same values. Understand me,

616
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: believe in the same God and the higher purpose and

617
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: vision right, train them soldiers' minds up to where y'all

618
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: got ruling and cadies that y'all go follow, Teach them

619
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: how to move when they operate with y'all understand me.

620
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: And you gotta have rules built on righteousness. Otherwise everybody

621
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: starts snaking.

622
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: Each other exactly, And it's important that that not be

623
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: the case. For us to have the longevity. We need

624
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: to have to change the things that we've been faced with.

625
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: You know, sh in the streets don't work. That shit

626
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: did ever work? And shit did.

627
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: Now let's let's speak about because the Honorable Lewis, the

628
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: Honorable Minister Lewis pharo Conserve.

629
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: Said that.

630
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: And brought my attention to a very important place with

631
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: the Kanye West thing. He was like, they give you

632
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: billions of dollars that you can't see. Yeah, this net

633
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: worth thing is a trick, this evaluation thing. If they

634
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: can take it like that, it's definitely a trick, right right.

635
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: If you could snap your finger and then say he's

636
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: no longer worth such and such billion, he's worth three

637
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: hundred million, and you just took that. I need people

638
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: to understand how to even come up with this your

639
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: worth six billion thing. That doesn't mean you have six

640
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: billion dollars.

641
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: It's an evaluation, right. Like, there's a lot of stuff

642
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: we living in a time where most of the great

643
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: illusions are falling.

644
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: Right.

645
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: We're seeing Elon Musk lose billion. Twitter is supposed to

646
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: be going bankruptcy. There's a thing in crypto. This FBF

647
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: guy who's supposed to lost one hundred millions in the day.

648
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: You understand me, We're seeing billions and billions of billions

649
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: of dollars saying that days are disappearing.

650
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: It's no longer there, it was never there. Exactly.

651
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: The world is built through all of these great and

652
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: grand illusions. When somebody is worth a hundred billion dollars,

653
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: there's no one hundred billion dollar liquid exactly where is

654
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean in the actual physical path that that is

655
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: in representation of that number. But when you got a

656
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: company and you put on the stock market, they can

657
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: get a ten x or one hundred x evaluation, meaning

658
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: that let's say, if you got a company that makes

659
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: that brings in a million dollars right per year, you

660
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: put that on the market, they may be to get

661
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: ten x. So now it's worth ten million. They making

662
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: ten million. Now they put it on the market that

663
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: somebody makes it one hundred million, But that doesn't mean

664
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: that that money actually exists. That's the evaluation of that company.

665
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: So you can go from a ten million dollar one

666
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar company to all of a sudden, a

667
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: billion dollar company. And so now if that evaluation not there,

668
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: it is not so calledly worth that. But it was

669
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: never there in the first.

670
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: That's the that's the cab.

671
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: And so Kanye West is dealing with like for us

672
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: that understand that language, because there's a whole lot of

673
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: people in our community just like, oh my god, they

674
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: took his money, right, And when you look at it,

675
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: it's like, no, you have to understand the evaluation says

676
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: you really got to understand, like you said, the great

677
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: illusions that America's built on and neck worth and all

678
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: of that kind of shit is one of them.

679
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: And then also, I think our culture right when we

680
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: look at Mark Zuckerper that lost billions, all of all

681
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: them boys right now are losing billions. Go look at

682
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: the news. You gotta pay attention by the Mark is

683
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: going crazy every day he done lost all he lost

684
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: more money than billion dollars. Let's say evaluation of billions.

685
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: Right, He's not losing the money right because we confuse you.

686
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Got liquid money, you got the assets that a person

687
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: actually home owns, they homes, their cars, right, they jury,

688
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: they go, they you know stocks, right, all of that

689
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: is the truth value that a person has. You understand me.

690
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: So when they took away the evaluation right where because

691
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: he was making Adidas.

692
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: One of two billion dollars per year, easy, right.

693
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: So you know they were saying that the deal is

694
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: worth over time because twenty six that and he was

695
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: projecting in his mind that Okay, over time this is

696
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: going to be worth ten billion, five billion, So now

697
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: he can say I'm worth this, But it's only based.

698
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: On the great traveling everything staying in agreement, right, right.

699
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: So if he didn't stay in agreement, then he's not

700
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: worth that. And most people money is based on their

701
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: agreements with the system. It's game, you understand me.

702
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: If you're just like an NBA players, just like.

703
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: There's not one billionaire in our culture whose wealth can't

704
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: be snatched away like.

705
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: That, yes, because they're not dealing.

706
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: With that wealth into real money. Real money is gold,

707
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: it's silver is land.

708
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: Is there a way to transfer six billion into gold?

709
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: Not if you don't actually have it, exactly, because see,

710
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: it's a game.

711
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: You can't go get six billion, even if they say

712
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: you're worth six dollars, right, what do you see?

713
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: It's what I'm saying.

714
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: But see, this is why somebody like Bill Gay's Bible

715
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: bunch of land, right, Land continues to increase in value

716
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: Black people in America on about two percent of the

717
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: land less than that because that circle is also Hispanics

718
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: we share, so the minorities so called.

719
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: We're not really minorities.

720
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: We know the game, but White's on the rest of that.

721
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: So the goal is to try to transfer into something tangible. Right,

722
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: Having stock ownership is better than just having your money

723
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: floating out.

724
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: There, right, even though stocks are tied to an evaluation.

725
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: Right, but stocks over time have been the most dependable, right,

726
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: that's the oldest older like putting your money in the

727
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: s and P. Five hundred of putting your money in

728
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: bonds unless the world collapses, right, the government collapses, where

729
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: you already in the arm again.

730
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: This type of situation, Like, I think that's the problem.

731
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: You can't plan for doom, right, otherwise point of having

732
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: money anyway, right, and that in that point in time,

733
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: like weapons and food become the most valuable thing.

734
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: The money means nothing.

735
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: That's not planning for wealth, that's planning for getting right.

736
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: Right, let me ask you this because you're cooking right now,

737
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: and I'm sure this is a great episode. What what happened?

738
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: What the fuck happened with the NFT shit.

739
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: Permitted?

740
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

741
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: What now?

742
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: I think that the red reality of NFTs is the

743
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: value still is consistent. The technology is there everybody, especially

744
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: independent rappers and things of that nature.

745
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: She uses n f T s.

746
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: Right, how though, when we when people have spent two

747
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand on it.

748
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: And got it was worth eight dollars, how do you

749
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: know what the buying is?

750
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: It's very easy?

751
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: What is it? What is it? Value?

752
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: You buy something only because other people buying it?

753
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 2: That ain't no, right, Yeah, that's trickery.

754
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: But but I'm saying if I say, listen, man, all

755
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, everybody done got hyped.

756
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: Man.

757
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: These phone cases are going for a million dollars and

758
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: you get I mean, you're like, yo, why though, and

759
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know, but it's a thing. You

760
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: buying it. And then all of a sudden the value

761
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: ended up going back to this original and you're like, yo,

762
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: what happened? What you mean? The value just returned? So

763
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: the intrinsic value of something is real value.

764
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: So let me get game. Right, So there's.

765
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: Still people making money right now? On eighty percent of

766
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: businesses fail.

767
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Period after that?

768
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: Right, So that's because everybody's not good at entrepreneurship.

769
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: Everybody not good at doing business is very hard.

770
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: NFTs came essentially as new businesses startups. You got these

771
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: new brands that's out there, these new projects that's out there,

772
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: these new communities that's being out there. So you had

773
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of people buying into a market bubble, specifically because.

774
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: It was a lot of hype around.

775
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: It was the first time we get to see artists

776
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: getting paid for their work. So it was good for

777
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot of artists that were real artists because they

778
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: actually got paid. Now, somebody buying a picture of a

779
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: monkey or you know, a worm or something just becauz

780
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: doesn't actually have any real value attached to it, right,

781
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: So now it's all speculatory value.

782
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: So but explain to me, right, like, okay, so me

783
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: on the out side of it, because I deliberately said,

784
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: I don't I want to speak the keys about NFTs

785
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: with a very limited understanding, right, because I want other

786
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 3: people with a very limited understanding.

787
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Always say, don't say NFT and you understand it. Okay.

788
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: So when I look at it and it's a picture, right,

789
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: explain to me the value in the picture.

790
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: Depends on the artist. Go look at art right now,

791
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: if you go go buy a bosky that got value.

792
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody on the street. You understand me, that is

793
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: an incredible artist.

794
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: You may not see the value or understand how the

795
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: value was even now obtained.

796
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: The thing about NFTs is that they have a matrix

797
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: code built into it to where you can attach value

798
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: to it. So I can say that this and.

799
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: It's worth a ticket to get into.

800
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: So this is not just a picture. It's a ticket, right,

801
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: or it's not just a picture it.

802
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: Is Okay, Now that is explaining, Okay, I get it.

803
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Not just a ticket, it's your access to this community.

804
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: It's not just a ticket. Now you can go to

805
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: this event by having own it.

806
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: So if you have your own world built like a

807
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: rapper who's on tour like gas merch has right.

808
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: So they show up and they be like, yo, man,

809
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: I got the Golden pass. Understand me. The golden pass

810
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: was to say I get VIRP access, go to pass,

811
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: Say I got to take a picture, go to pass

812
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: I get, I.

813
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: Get and that's value for that NFT. That so that's

814
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: how you Okay, that makes so as a rapper.

815
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: And then here's the problem with a lot of rappers,

816
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: specifically they don't know no business right and understand no

817
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: business models or how to leverage the intellectual property. For me,

818
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: n ft is is the best way to leverage your

819
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: intellectual property, specifically because the technology allows you to be

820
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: able to build community around it. So I had NFT

821
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: I sold probably about a thousand of them, but they

822
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: was all connected to Crowns.

823
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: See you you have product.

824
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: I would also let the young young brothers know that

825
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: you're dealing with a guy who understands what he's doing.

826
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: You see the Crowns.

827
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: You see y'all move mility, you see, and you have

828
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: product number one thing rappers.

829
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: I know, y'all all look at me. Product.

830
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, the product is more important because if you got music,

831
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: you have to utilize the music as leverage. Right. What's

832
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: better a person getting a million streams, right or a

833
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: person having a thousand fans?

834
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying is way more? Yeah, you

835
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: can keeps who's your favorite artist? Little Baby?

836
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: How much have you paid a Little Baby over lifetime

837
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: since listening to his music?

838
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 2: Not sure?

839
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: I can't calculate it because the streaming services won't write

840
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: whatever they charging. There's no direct number I gave to

841
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: him in any facet of his business whether that's tickets,

842
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: whether that's music, whether that's YouTube viewership.

843
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Wherever that see is, there's a middle man that's involved

844
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: with him being.

845
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: So I would say the average fan, based on streaming,

846
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: probably give five to ten dollars to their favorite artists.

847
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: That's bad, you understand me.

848
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 3: Somebody you want to support, somebody you do support by listening.

849
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: You literally are consuming their product but paying them nothing. Right,

850
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: you're paying them pennies on a dollar. So instead, if

851
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: you got a thousand fans, because they say, you know,

852
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: based on Google analytics, the average rapper makes seventy thousand,

853
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: and I know that that's not even true. That's less

854
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: way average like successful.

855
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, make seventy thousand.

856
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: Average rapper making probably around ten thousand and five if.

857
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: That two hundred, I know ifew of them.

858
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: So so what if you got a thousand fans or

859
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: even one hundred, because you can do both models. You

860
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: got a thousand fans, all you got to get them

861
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: to do is pay you one hundred dollars a year.

862
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: You understand me.

863
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: That's one hundred thousand dollars.

864
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: Right, boy, just laid the game on the front seat.

865
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: So if you go do that, right, Now let's say

866
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: that thousand dollars January first. Whoever buys that NFT January first,

867
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: that is my music pass. So it gives you a

868
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: token to get access to all my music that year,

869
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: and only a thousand people can access my.

870
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: Music that year.

871
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Right, So now these thousand people are giving you one

872
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, you put them into like a discord or

873
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: communit or you build an app. Now they're communicating, then

874
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: you can throw a concert on top of that. I'm

875
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: only gonna do two concerts this year, right when in

876
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: January one and December, right, concerts is.

877
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: One hundred dollars each for everybody.

878
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: Right now, you got two concerts, thousand people showing up.

879
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: That's two hundred thousand dollars. If you're gonna pull that out.

880
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: For or you do one concert, you know how easy

881
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: it is for baby or fuck.

882
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. It's just business models, though, but most

883
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: people don't understand business models. The don't understand margins, right,

884
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: and they don't understand how the leverage what they have.

885
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: We get in the community in a lot of times

886
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: because we never had nothing. We want to own one

887
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: hundred percent.

888
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: Of right, and that's not because all the big companies

889
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 3: in the world are split down.

890
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: All the companies trying to figure out how can they

891
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: sell a leverage the equity that they have. Because if

892
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: I can say, bro, all right, you know, if you

893
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: give me one hundred thousand dollars, I give you ten

894
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: percent of what I own. I'm telling you about ten

895
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: percent that this is worth a million dollars right right,

896
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna giving you ten percent at one hundred thousand.

897
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: That means that the whole prob must be worthing me exactly.

898
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: But I need that one hundred thousand to be able

899
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: to leverage because I may be able to turn this now,

900
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: to be able to work three mins.

901
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: Right with that one hundred thousand helping the people's money

902
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: right right right, And that's business for rappers and people looking.

903
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: So what your goal is like with the NFTs, We've

904
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: seen NAS do it with fractionalized ownership. He was able

905
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: to give away some royalties to some of his music, right,

906
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: So now not only you own it, the fans own

907
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: it as well, so they streaming what they own, they promoting.

908
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: With Did that work for nons? Did that turn play?

909
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: So with a long term play is like I said

910
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: it's based on streaming and people.

911
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, that's just long time, right, right, right right.

912
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: NFTs is a technology that can be utilized and implemented

913
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: within business models, and that's what happened, is turned into

914
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: a trend and people start jumping in without understanding how.

915
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: To use it. I'm glad we're speaking on this.

916
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: I never told people to buy NFTs. I told them

917
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: to create them.

918
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: Right, And that's a very different.

919
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: Thing, absolutely, because it's very easy to see a market

920
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: that don't have value. Now I've taught students where they

921
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: was able to get in by flip and make tens

922
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars. Don't get me wrong, but the

923
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: goal every time I spoke create them, understand them. But

924
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to just buy them instead of creating they own.

925
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: So when I told you, I create my own project,

926
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: right that has a product attached to it, that has

927
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: a community attached to it, that's long term, I'm planning

928
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: on something now from our people that's in my community. Now,

929
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: I got their data as well. The data is the

930
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: fact that they're attached to the project. Imagine if everybody

931
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: that ever listened to your show before they get in

932
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: before they watch. They had to sign up with they wallet.

933
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: Right now, they get an automatic NFT air drop to it.

934
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: Anytime that comes, you can give them push notification air

935
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: drop to the actual show. That makes sense. The problem

936
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: with this whole they say, the sales plummeted, Yes, because

937
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: the value of the market started to decrease because the

938
00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: business models.

939
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: Was trapped right.

940
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 3: Everybody just feeling there, feeling there, feeling there something right now.

941
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: And it's the problem that people don't know how not

942
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: to go off media. Media is dangerous. It can manipulate

943
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: the money right right right now, and that's what it's

944
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: you crashing. The crypto market is in the winter, The

945
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: NFT market is in the dumps. The world the world

946
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: markets are in the dump, but there's money to be

947
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: made in each one of those secrets.

948
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: Still your job is.

949
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: To say, that's the money not being made, but where

950
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: is the money being made?

951
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: Right?

952
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: Do you think that because you were at the forefront

953
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: of NFTs, do you do you think that that put

954
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: any kind of strain on how people viewed some of

955
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: your message?

956
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: Hell no, because if you go back and you go

957
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: listen to the messages I was giving you the game,

958
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: the whole time.

959
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: And how you explained it. Now, I believe rappers will

960
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: understand it.

961
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: I always explained it. See, people are lazy, right, I

962
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't take look. Look, your laziness

963
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: is not my detriment. If you go listen to the

964
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: first and if you are did on market mondays I

965
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: was giving a breakdown. I explained it was gonna go

966
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: to a billion, but also explain that ninety or eighty

967
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: percent of the project was trash and most of them

968
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: go crash. Anybody can see everything goes through cycles, right.

969
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: The cycles happen where you get the boom cycle, then it.

970
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: Has to receive part of it, and then you get an.

971
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: Average of where it's going to be after that, and

972
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: then if it's a vivable market, you're gonna get another

973
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: boom cycle. Our bodies go through that cycle on a

974
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: day basis. So for me, I study things. But if

975
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: a person takes a one minute clip and then they

976
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: don't know study the four hour lesson, then that's your

977
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: fault because that's how you do everything else. I never

978
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: took no hit from it because people understood that. People

979
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: in my community, they was being coached. The people on

980
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: the outside is the lazy people trying to get one

981
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: minute worth of information and hope it turns into a million.

982
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: Dollars worth of game. That was high level.

983
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: We educators, man and our courture got to stop being

984
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: lazy because every other culture built their empire on education. Right,

985
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: So there's nobody to blame if you lose money but

986
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: yourself because you didn't do your due diligence. Fact, so

987
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: we have to study when you're spending money. I've lost

988
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: plenty of money in multiple things, but my risk tolerance

989
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: is high because I only blame myself. Right, So when

990
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: I get something, I'm studying. But this, this, this part

991
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: is very important for people because we're so distracted right now, Right,

992
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: we pay attention to shit that don't matter. It's on

993
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: a consistent and daily basis. Where the hell? Right is

994
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: the media that's constantly giving you the game. They will

995
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: report when there's a new market, something goes bad, but

996
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: that same media won't educate you. Right, So now they

997
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: are the ones that's getting you to jump into the

998
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: phone or the fear of missing out. You jumping in

999
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: because of celebrity, right, And I told people go on

1000
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: to YouTube. All celebrity projects are trash.

1001
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: Remember out that is out there.

1002
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: So no, my business only got big because you know,

1003
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: people realize, like damn, if I was just listen to

1004
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: his voice the whole time, he was actually giving me.

1005
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: The and listen and listen in a real way to

1006
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: not just cheer repeat, because it's a lot of that

1007
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: in the media and then consumption of media, a lot

1008
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: of just cheery picking quotes and cheery picking the game.

1009
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: When when this message cheer, you got to digest, you know,

1010
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: you got to come.

1011
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: Down in the b w O.

1012
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm still teaching a student because that's why I say,

1013
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: don't call it NFTs. If I tell you I got

1014
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: a book on the blockchain, and if you buy that,

1015
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: you got that forever. And you said, oh yeah, word,

1016
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: I want to support your book, you go buy it.

1017
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: You bought the NFT, but I didn't call it the NFT, right.

1018
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 3: But see, that's why I think they killed the image

1019
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: of the NF to that name, just starting to nigga NFT.

1020
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: Like oh nah, whoa, whoa, everybody lose it.

1021
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: But they ain't thinking about the business, the technology, and

1022
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: that's what.

1023
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: We need to keep the internet all the time. And

1024
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: people get scammed on the Internet. But you don't blame

1025
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: dot COM's you understand me, because that's the technology.

1026
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 2: Though, you don't blame the Internet.

1027
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: It's just technology. Technology don't have Like it's not some

1028
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: AI that then did it by themselves. It was the

1029
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: way that people used it. Yesr so into my business.

1030
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's best for people that specially want to

1031
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: you know, challenge the system so they don't want these

1032
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: things to work that I want crypto to work and

1033
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: DeFi the work. They want you all to stop believing

1034
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: in it because you stop challenging the system.

1035
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: Right and you go with destruction. Did you lose one Russell?

1036
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1037
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: Lost? I made money right right, So I mean that's

1038
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: part of that. That's part of this whole thing we do.

1039
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: The beauty of it.

1040
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: I don't mind losing money to learn something because now

1041
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: I know how to use it today, Like I can

1042
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: go utilize the technology, right, people get don't get stuck

1043
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: in that damn then? Right man, that's so important And

1044
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: I want that ship to boom again because I want

1045
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: rappers specifically can build a whole goddamn distribution challenge. Like

1046
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: we just spoke about the labels by utilizing the blockchain,

1047
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: not just n f T.

1048
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 2: Yes, the blockchain period key to it.

1049
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: NFTs is just one way to utilize the blockchain, but

1050
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: now specifically for the creative community. Now people are buying

1051
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: houses on the blockchain in the forms of NFTs, people

1052
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: are doing collateralized loans, people are discharging debt, people are

1053
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: doing self banking. There's so many things happening, but there's

1054
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: a small microcosm where people only pay attention to what

1055
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: the media tells him. Then they don't investigate what the

1056
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: hell is this built on? Why is it now just

1057
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: being possible? These are the things that I try to

1058
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: get people to think. We just have a lack of.

1059
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: Things, and that's what that's what that's what we're here for.

1060
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: Those is to get people to think. I wanted to

1061
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 3: also ask you because Kyrie Irving is going through.

1062
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: A lot in the media.

1063
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: Got the water, Yeah, you can get in the interfrigerator

1064
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: right there. But Kyrie Irving is going through a lot,

1065
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: you know, as far as him retweeting a documentary that

1066
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 3: he didn't make that and him trying to be in

1067
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: a situation to find out what his true self is.

1068
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: I think he's on a very very specific journey. But

1069
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you, because he references you a lot.

1070
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you.

1071
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 2: Is that heavy? You said?

1072
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: Is it? What?

1073
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: Is it heavy?

1074
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 3: Like that you have someone in that position with so

1075
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: much on the line, you know, who says, I got

1076
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: people like keys that I reach out to. I got

1077
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: people like keys that I get some direction or some

1078
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: I pull from.

1079
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: Is that a heavy weight on you?

1080
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 3: Because Yo, I know that we all got it all

1081
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: together and we're moving through this life with you know,

1082
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: upright and independent. But that's your black brother. He depending

1083
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 3: on your information, He depending on.

1084
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: Some of your understanding.

1085
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: Do you feel that or is this just a you

1086
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: understand that we righteous and we on the cause and

1087
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: whatever that means, whatever that takes.

1088
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: It is you know, all president to a lie. It's

1089
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: always heavy in the sense that anybody you know, not

1090
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: just Carrie Irving, but the accountability that you have, the

1091
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: more influence that you gain. Right. But I started this

1092
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: journey off purposely to help enlighten people, right and to

1093
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: be somebody that can be leaned on.

1094
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: Right.

1095
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: So specifically my brother Kyrie Irving, you know, he's he's

1096
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: on his journey right right, and he's on the very

1097
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: authentic journey yes, Like what you see on the field,

1098
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: what you see in the press conferences is how he

1099
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: is twenty four to seven.

1100
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: That's his authentic spirit.

1101
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, black men are not allowed

1102
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: to be their authentic selves anymore, right, Like the NBA

1103
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: is full of people that will never speak their true values. Right,

1104
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: even though it's you know, seventy eight percent black, right,

1105
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: but it's not a black courtyard sports, right, even though

1106
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: we dominated, we dominate all the sports, but the culture

1107
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: of it is in black, right, and so shit, and

1108
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: that's dangerous because that means that if the dominant right

1109
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: race ethnic group, right, it's within something, then that means

1110
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: that that should revolve around.

1111
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: Them, not the other way around exactly.

1112
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: But what's happening is it's revolving on the culture of

1113
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: the owners rather than the culture of the player.

1114
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, So even if all if the whole

1115
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: league felt like Kyrie number one, or not even felt

1116
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: like Kyrie, because we don't know what he feels, we

1117
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 3: know what he's searching for. So if the whole league

1118
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: black men went on search for the same thing that

1119
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: Kyrie knowledge yourself, all black, right was his search should

1120
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: be in searched for, right, So if all black men

1121
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: in the league went on that search, I believe the

1122
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: league would not respect the fact that seventy eight percent

1123
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 3: of their players is trying to figure out.

1124
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: But see, that's where the league ain't gotta respect it.

1125
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: The players have to. It's the player's job to make

1126
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: the league ben to they will because the league can't

1127
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: operate without the player, right, right, And this is everywhere.

1128
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: This is the one thing we don't respect about our

1129
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: collectmmun numbers, right right, is that once the players say,

1130
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: you know what, we can't stand for one of and

1131
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: and this is the dangerous thing, Well, you will lose

1132
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: your money.

1133
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: Lose this, You're gonna lose that. This is how they control.

1134
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: People that grew up in impoverished environence.

1135
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: I pulled you out the wall.

1136
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember your net worth. Your evaluation is based on

1137
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: your agreement to the terms. Right, So without that agreement,

1138
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: then you lose your value. This is how you control

1139
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: the person. If you can control the person mind, then

1140
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: they will. Then they are your slaves. This is why

1141
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: people say the NBA in the NFL is a slave, right,

1142
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: It's a plantation because they control your mind and will

1143
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: you can't say what you want to you can't think

1144
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: what you want, right, And people say, well, they get

1145
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: millions to be slaves, right, But it's still slavery by

1146
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: any degree. So these players have the responsibility. So it

1147
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: can't just be the people always standing up for the players.

1148
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: The players have to stand up for themselves. Collection. So

1149
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: you got to look at them, and nothing would have

1150
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: happened if all the players just like, you know what.

1151
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: We're gonna do a blackout day.

1152
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: These terms that they've given Kyrie, understand me, is a

1153
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: buck breaking term sheet. And we know that this is

1154
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: only to a milion ate him because the CEO of

1155
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Amazon is a white Jewish man that any one of

1156
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: those people in power can call any day of the week,

1157
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: take a press conference, get a call. I listened to

1158
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, the head of the ad L give a

1159
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: breakdown on what he called Adidas.

1160
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: He said, I called Adidas.

1161
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: He told me all of the reasons why they couldn't

1162
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: do it, and while their hands was tied because they

1163
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: money is so tied up in yay right, and he

1164
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: told them, he say, listen, I get it.

1165
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: He said, I worked in you know, as a CEO too.

1166
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: But he say, you know, if you do it, we

1167
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: will praise you, but if you don't do it, we're

1168
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: gonna bring that hammer on you. Insistent. This is what

1169
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: he's saying to a group of people because he's explaining

1170
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: how he deals with these corporations. He's given these given right,

1171
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: but this is how he goes to these corporations, and

1172
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: he talked to them. So that lets me know. If

1173
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: you can call the CEO of Adidas, you can call

1174
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: the CEO of Amazon right right when you are in

1175
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: bed in business. And then there's certain power structures that

1176
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of power. Right, Bezos got a lot

1177
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: of power because if Amazon fall, then America does as well. Right,

1178
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: So that's a lot of leverage. See what, we don't

1179
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: be having this leverage behind us, You understand me? And

1180
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: so you got to understand the game of power and

1181
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: control dynamics. So all of that, it was never about Kyrie,

1182
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: you understand me? Or the documentary. It was always make

1183
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: an example of Kyrie because he happens to be what

1184
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: they considered the uppity negro.

1185
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: He doing to me talking too much.

1186
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: There's only one person that got away with speaking truth

1187
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: to power in sports, and that's Muhammad Ali. But you

1188
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: also have to have a great level of communication to

1189
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: back up everything.

1190
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: That you say.

1191
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: And when nobody that wanted to rumble with Ali in

1192
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: the ring or verbally intellectually he was.

1193
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: He understand me.

1194
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: He'll be talking about white folks that have him laughing

1195
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: at oppression.

1196
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: You understand me.

1197
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 3: He was a different co he was. Yeah, he was

1198
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: a mom right, he was a monster. Do you so

1199
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 3: with with Kyrie?

1200
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: Do you believe that he could have been?

1201
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: Do you believe that the people in the in the league,

1202
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: like your Shack or your Lebron who came out and

1203
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: spoke against right Explain to me because I've also heard

1204
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: I've heard you say this. You will be judged in

1205
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: this time by your silence as well as your words.

1206
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's key you can tell

1207
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: who's well. If a person is not speaking and they

1208
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: have a strong opinion in a platform, then it's because

1209
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: of their fear, right right. What Dave Chappelle say in

1210
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: SNL He said a lot of things happen with Kanye

1211
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: and I'm usually quick to call him or jump on something,

1212
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: but he said, this time, I waited. Look, I want

1213
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: to see what's gonna happen. Yeah, you know, we know

1214
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: you know who's of the curture and who's up the top,

1215
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, and so, but.

1216
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: I believe that someone right and Kyrie in that moment.

1217
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: I know you say, they will be judged by that silence.

1218
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: But sometimes I think they should just be quiet because

1219
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: if you're going to say something that's detrimental, absolutely.

1220
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: If you got something good to say, say it. If

1221
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: you don't, especially when it comes to each other, just

1222
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: don't say yea and call these negroes man. They need

1223
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: to just shut up, right, I've seen a few of them.

1224
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: But you know, we know Charles Barkley, we can't depend

1225
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: on him to do nothing, you understand me.

1226
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: He always gonna be on the other side, you know.

1227
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: But that's the difference between race and ethnicity, right, Charles

1228
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: Broccoli is a brown man that was a great basketball player,

1229
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: but on the inside he is a white man. That's

1230
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: just what I see.

1231
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: I've never shown me any reason that we have the

1232
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,479
Speaker 2: same ethnic background, and clarify if it ain't.

1233
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: And Shaq, it was very disappointing for him to go

1234
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: on there inveribly assault his brother by disrespecting him, you

1235
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 1: understand me, in front of millions of people who look

1236
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: up to Shack. So if you believe that he went

1237
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: on and disrespected people by posting a link, and you

1238
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: believe that was wrong, how does it feel as a

1239
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: black man and you go disrespect another black man?

1240
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: So you can't tell me.

1241
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: That's not an equal assault man, right. So the way

1242
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: that these negroes jump in front of the bullet for their.

1243
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: Masters is disrespectful. I even seen Steven A.

1244
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: Smith come into his aid right in this hour, which

1245
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: were gonna see a lot of odd things in this hour,

1246
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,479
Speaker 1: saying that they're trying to keep the foot on his neck, right,

1247
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: and so we know what that is. All black men

1248
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: around the world feel that, right, Because you know, there's

1249
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: our documentary called Goodbye Uncle Tom, and everybody should watch it.

1250
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: It's hard to get through because it's shot like it's

1251
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: real life. Where you see the way that the Africans

1252
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: acting there, it's shot like it's real and watching it

1253
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: the night so what happened is you will have a

1254
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: serious breakdown.

1255
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: Watch.

1256
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: So there's a scene though, well one of these slaves

1257
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: is getting tortured and getting newtered, right, and the rest

1258
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: of them all around and they're laughing, they're like giggling,

1259
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: like hyenas, right, But the explanation was the fact that

1260
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, they not really laughing because they enjoy, you know,

1261
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: and they find it comic coal, They're laughing because they

1262
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: fear this is the only way.

1263
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: It's a lot of that, and they fear being next.

1264
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna make my side right, so or you

1265
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: even pulled the whip out, I'm gonna make my side.

1266
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: Clip what you're gonna try to get master his next victim,

1267
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: as long as it ain't you.

1268
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: You feel like.

1269
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: And this is what's happening, Like we know that epigenetics

1270
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna last seven generations from the things.

1271
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: That happened right right, right right, but not even.

1272
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: Just slavery, from the civil rights, from the black holes,

1273
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: from Jim Crow, from the Willie Lynch type times. That

1274
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: stuff is.

1275
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: Still there, embedded, baked in.

1276
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: This bug breaking process of telling Kyrie to do these things.

1277
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: These are top one percent white men. You can talk

1278
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: about their religion all you want to. These are white

1279
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: men that are in the safest position in the world.

1280
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: Lord.

1281
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: Black men had nothing to do with the Holocaust, right,

1282
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: black men were fighting in all of the wars, even

1283
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 1: when we were still come back from war and even

1284
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: more racism. So we have fought on the side of

1285
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: good every single time and been treated the worst. So

1286
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: in this country, ain't a goddamn person who can make

1287
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: a black man apologize for an impression that they had

1288
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: nothing to do with. Black men don't commit violence against

1289
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: Jewish people. Black men actually take all that they business,

1290
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: all their talents to Jewish people, acting to manage their money,

1291
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: accident to manage their funds, asking to manage they legal,

1292
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: acting to manage their creativity. We take all of our

1293
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: talent and energy to Jewish people in America. Right, So

1294
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: if there's anybody right that the Jewish America should look

1295
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: at and be like, you know what the relationship between

1296
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: that you have with black people is because of how

1297
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: Black people go to Jewish.

1298
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: People, right, And it's been transactional.

1299
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Right, And so there's nothing wrong with speaking on that.

1300
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with speaking their truth. But it's like

1301
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: this younger generation, I had the Jewish man reach out

1302
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: to me, and I was hesitant. He wanted to do

1303
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: a podcast or talk, but it's like, I'm not with

1304
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: to just let people use me because it's a it's

1305
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: a moment to where you're reaching out to black influences

1306
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: so you can build your platform. That's just more manipulation

1307
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: and it's high level. Yeah. So at the end of

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: the day, it's like, you know, we recognize truth and

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01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: we stand on truth, right, and if you stand on truth,

1310
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: stand on that. But if you will, sucker, just say that.

1311
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: But the reality of it is is that y'all know

1312
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: damn well. You know there's a lot of Jewish people

1313
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: in my community where I live in la I don't

1314
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: see a Jewish person Hissitic jew or ashkar nashi zoo.

1315
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, some hate in my heart.

1316
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: Nobody walks around like that. In the hoods we kill

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Speaker 1: each other.

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: We're not outside of it. Jewish people. We just spoke about.

1319
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: We only show each other how that so and that

1320
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: fact what we want throws the same way that happened

1321
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: with George Floyd. George Floyd had to die right and

1322
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: so many people able to benefit from it.

1323
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: When he died.

1324
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: Corporations got guilty, felt guilty. White guilt spiked at the

1325
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: all time highest level in the history of the world.

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01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: That's what George Floyd died right for and that's what happened,

1327
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: and a lot of companies were able to benefit, and

1328
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: a lot of businesses were able to benefit this time, right,

1329
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: were asking that same conversation that we never had about reparations,

1330
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: that same conversation that exists within while guilt when we

1331
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: talk about corporations taking advantage of us, when we're talking

1332
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: about people getting three sixty deals, right, when we talk

1333
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: about black people in black entertainment culture and the vutures

1334
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: within the curture propagating sex, murdered, drugs, lies, violence.

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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: Consistently not offering insurance, therapy, financial literacy. So run you

1336
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: into some money and crash you Outactly.

1337
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: There's a responsibility that if you are a part of

1338
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: the industry that does that number one, there should be

1339
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: guilt on your part unless you're doing it intentional, And

1340
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: then there has to be a conversation right about making

1341
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: amend so that our community can move forward. And hell,

1342
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: but as long as our open depression is your business model, right,

1343
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: then you're responsible for that because you capitalizing off of

1344
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: our deaths. So therefore we talk to a community and

1345
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: be like, listen, y'all have a considerable amount of power

1346
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: in this industry to help us make the change. So

1347
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: the thought leaders, the intellects you would think of the

1348
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: NAAC peoples who they say they were, then they will.

1349
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: Be a challenging that existing system.

1350
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: And not just the rappers, but the corporations behind the

1351
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: rappers that put the money for the rappers, because they

1352
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: don't get the loans, they don't get on TV, they

1353
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: don't get on radio unless right, it's green light at first,

1354
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: you understand me. So the responsibility goes directly to the

1355
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: gatekeepers who create the reality. Because if the top rappers

1356
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: ain't talking about violence, you understand, they don't get the budget.

1357
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: Then that means that we don't need rappers to talk

1358
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: about violence to be success.

1359
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, that's what that means.

1360
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: So why then are you going to young young young

1361
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: men as in denture Sam Fries? Is this enfranchised communities? Right?

1362
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: They grow up with low education, they grow up in poverty.

1363
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: So if you give them any opportunity, they gonna take it,

1364
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: even if that even if it's at.

1365
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: The detriment of the community. They don't care.

1366
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: They want that money, right, And you know what, with

1367
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: the Kyrie thing, I believe the apology isn't what they

1368
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: want as well.

1369
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: I think I think that he apologized and they basically

1370
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: blocked the shot. It's like, no, that's not enough.

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01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: They don't want him to keep his integrity too. If

1372
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: you walk back on that field with your head up

1373
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: high and you still have all of the integrity right

1374
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: that you have to inspire, Yes, you're an inspiration.

1375
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,479
Speaker 2: I want to kill that rare men want to stand

1376
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 2: up like that. And it ain't nothing white folks hate

1377
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: more than a shrown.

1378
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: Fearless black man with knowledge it self. So for you

1379
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: to walk out there and they're telling him, he has

1380
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: to show that he's sorry. That's what they tell They say.

1381
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 2: What does that mean? My words?

1382
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: My words more show that you've been broken. You can't

1383
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: go out there up in the negro no more. You

1384
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: have to show that you've been broken, because we don't

1385
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: want the rest of these negroes to be inspired by

1386
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: the same way.

1387
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Because we know in law it creates case precedents.

1388
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: Right now, you can go back in the case of

1389
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: Kyleri reversus chow to side, in the case of Kyrie

1390
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: versus you understand me, Adam Silver. In the case of

1391
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: Kyrie versus the NBA, he went out there and he

1392
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: walked with his head up high. Because we've seen what

1393
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: happened when he went against the v and he still

1394
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: was able to go back out there his head up high.

1395
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: They've been hating him every since.

1396
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: That day, and it's like they've been trying to get

1397
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: at him.

1398
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: The system was not designed for black men to win

1399
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: in The system was designed for white men to control

1400
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: black men wins.

1401
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: Do you think that? Do you think that people?

1402
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: Because I heard Shannon and some of these people are

1403
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 3: starting to walk it back, and they got to I

1404
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 3: kind of like how we are starting to hold each

1405
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 3: other accountable in that way to like, yo, bro y'all

1406
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: come on us against us like kylelin bruh. If it's

1407
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 3: like us again and dudes are trying to walk it back,

1408
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 3: do you think that? What do you say to someone

1409
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: like Shannon shap who would say something like, if you

1410
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: want to keep your platform, you know, do as they say,

1411
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 3: or you're more effective if you stay in line with

1412
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: what they say, because that keeps you in a position

1413
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: to be in the NBA And with that evaluation networth

1414
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: type of agreement with the system.

1415
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: You know, that is a.

1416
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: You know, and shout out to all these brothers. I

1417
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: think a lot of these brothers are trying to figure

1418
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: it out as they go, and we.

1419
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,959
Speaker 2: Building this is information based are.

1420
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: In silos where the people around them start to influence them.

1421
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: And oftentimes you have to be in communication of somebody

1422
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: who thinks different so that you can think different on

1423
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: the situation.

1424
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: But you have to understand that.

1425
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing to be a spooky set

1426
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: beside the door, right, it has to be your intention.

1427
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: You can pick your spots, but you have to be

1428
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: in communication so you can help others that's doing the

1429
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: real work for sure, right, Because I don't think and

1430
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: this is the thing, like when you talked about silence,

1431
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody needs to speak on this, right,

1432
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: because what you can do is you can money up

1433
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: the way that we see you, so next time you

1434
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: do say something real, we don't take it serious more. Well,

1435
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: if you just shut up right and you pick your

1436
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: spots right now, you can still be utilizing that key position.

1437
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: So what we have is I don't need the billionaires

1438
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: and the millionaires to go out there and try to

1439
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: be revolutionary. No, there's enough things that we can just

1440
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: do with our money and our collective influence to help

1441
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: people that are doing real work exactly, And that changes

1442
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: the game exactly right, Like I got my brothers knew

1443
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: every Detroit man.

1444
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 2: I love what they're doing out there in the streets.

1445
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: Man. They take people to the hoods. There's no cameras,

1446
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: no nothing, and they going and they doing the the

1447
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: violence intervention and they're doing conflict resolution and they have

1448
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: chapters around America. Imagine if there was millions of dollars

1449
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: put into that documentary.

1450
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's one thing. That's that's that's not.

1451
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: Even the most important things right now. Economics is the

1452
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: most important because we can't control our own people without it.

1453
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: If you go look at all the black and media, right, man,

1454
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: whoever wants to take this idea, hope it's somebody black, right,

1455
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: all black media, there's a there's a dollar sign on that.

1456
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: It's not even a billion, there's a dollar sign on that.

1457
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: And by to mean that if you got a billion

1458
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: dollar check, right, and you say I want to own

1459
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: all black media, you can go to every little podcast

1460
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: and big podcasts and present them a check, right, and

1461
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: you can buy up every single last one, and then

1462
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 1: you can run your own opinions influencing products. Right, Because

1463
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: this is currently the modeling way it works right that

1464
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: the corporations put ads on top of the videos.

1465
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 2: Fact.

1466
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: Right, And if you you can't say certain things if

1467
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: you've got sponsors, right, because then it's gonna mess up

1468
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: the money. Right. So they actually control the intellectual Black

1469
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: America by giving them ad dollars, right, and it can

1470
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: look bad on the products. So if you got a

1471
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: billion dollars, one hundred million dollars, right now, you have

1472
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: enough money to actually control the voice of Black America.

1473
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: There's actually no more influential voice in the entire world. Right.

1474
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: So when you go look at what our buying habits

1475
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: influence everybody else's buying habits. So there's a dangerous thing

1476
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: about our boycotts. When we boycott something, it's not just

1477
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: our money we're taking away. We're taking away our influenced

1478
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: dollars as well. Right when that little black kid wear

1479
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: them shoes and an NBA player, that NFL player, that

1480
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: rapper wear them shoes. We don't just represent our buying power,

1481
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: in our consumer power within the decks we represent when

1482
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: we buy it. That's the reason these white kids are buying,

1483
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: that's the reason that agents are buying. That's the reason

1484
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: the Jewish kids are buying everybody else. Look at Kanye West, right,

1485
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: you understand me, So everybody's buying his shoe because we

1486
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: wear it. So you gotta understand why that that percentage

1487
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 1: that we represent is always skewed.

1488
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 3: They don't let you know what you're truence, right, that's.

1489
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: Where the world takes their Qan notes. Nobody knows how

1490
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: to get dressed unless they see us give. We don't

1491
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: put on that drip everybody else's drops. So you have

1492
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: to understand your influential power. So when we boycott, it

1493
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: creates a ripple effect. Right now, everybody else don't know

1494
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: what the hell to put on. You know what I'm saying.

1495
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: In rap music, we make every one of these designers hot.

1496
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: Now they're talking about they dropping. Yeah, we never knew

1497
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: who y'all was if it wasn't yet we don't know

1498
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: who y'all was if it wasn't.

1499
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: For hip hop.

1500
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: So hip hop can drop you yourselves increase. So Black

1501
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: Americas has more influence than any other people on this

1502
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: planet Earth as far from people watch us and they

1503
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: do what we do facts right, The problem is we

1504
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: haven't turned that into control.

1505
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: And we haven't we haven't understood how to truly value

1506
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 3: that and understand the value of that. We understand, but

1507
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 3: we have to be more loud about communicating that to

1508
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 3: the people in position, because it's people with value that

1509
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: don't know.

1510
01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: They got value.

1511
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 3: Absolutely no, people with a voice and position that don't

1512
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: even know that. Yo, right now, you can be way

1513
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 3: more powerful than you truly are.

1514
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: Right, Like, look at I mean, I don't think Kanye

1515
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: West owns all his masters, but I believe he has

1516
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: a deal to own him eventually. But when you think

1517
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: about that, let's say if he owned all his masters,

1518
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: how much would that be worth? Right?

1519
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: How much is that worth?

1520
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: Right? So like when you talk about a billionaire and

1521
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: you talk about corporate evaluation, but then there's true with value.

1522
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: It's product there there if his.

1523
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: Deal with Adidus is worth a billion because of Kanye West, right,

1524
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: how much is Kanye West worth?

1525
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: Bisect?

1526
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: So when we talk about evaluations, I don't think Kanye

1527
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: is not a billionaire because Kanye West is worth more.

1528
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 3: Than exactly He's just not no longer attached to that

1529
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 3: system that they had.

1530
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: They're allowing them to give and strip value and signing

1531
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: value to ourselves. Right, So the deal we make what

1532
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,799
Speaker 1: ourselves makes us billionaires in a way that we leverage

1533
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: on intellectual property, the way that we leverage ourselves, so

1534
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: that we got to really change the whole framework right,

1535
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: the way that we see ourselves in order to get

1536
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: the real value from everybody else knows it. They say, well,

1537
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: if I do a deal with Kanye West, I make

1538
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 1: this money billion. Kanye West is now a billionaire. But

1539
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: that means Kanye West was already worth billions exactly.

1540
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: So that means that if he learned.

1541
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: How to leverage that for himself, all you have to

1542
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: do is pull the billions out of the equity of

1543
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: his brand. Because if I promise you and this is

1544
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: you brought off NLTS and Kanye is at one time

1545
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: he said, don't talk to me about NFT, but I

1546
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: think that was the problem.

1547
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: Somebody should talk to this because think about it. Kanye West.

1548
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: Right now, he say, listen, I'm about to build a factory.

1549
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: You understand, I can't tell y'all who the benefactors is

1550
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: going to be, who's going to help me build it,

1551
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: But we're gonna come out with this shoe, you understand me.

1552
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: This shoe It's gonna be this ORCHRD black Kanye West shoe,

1553
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: you understand me. And the shoe is also going to

1554
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: be entry to this world concert I do somewhere. I

1555
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: don't know where it's going to be, right or the

1556
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: past is just a past or whatever project he drops

1557
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: that on the blockchain. Kanye West has the ability right

1558
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: better than any other artists in the world that's translisted

1559
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,839
Speaker 1: to create secondary markets. So when he buys something in reseal.

1560
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 1: The value of n f T is when you buy something.

1561
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: That resales, but you get paid off that run.

1562
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: So imagine if Kanye West got paid royalties from resale.

1563
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: Market, how much value do you have this. I ain't

1564
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: just saying do right that the shot work.

1565
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: He created though a technology that can be embedded in

1566
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: the shoe so it can track resale.

1567
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 4: Right.

1568
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: So, now you get the n f T connected to it.

1569
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: You buy the n f T that's connected to the shoe,

1570
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: you tap it just like this. Now you can see

1571
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: who owned it.

1572
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: You can see how many people owned it, how many.

1573
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: People happen to it. Everything right. So now, now if

1574
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: you want to authenticate, because we just seen on one

1575
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: stock X.

1576
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 3: They had to remove they had to remove the authenticity slogan.

1577
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: Find of sight in the shoes.

1578
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: And this is why companies are already moving into blockchain

1579
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: right They're already utilizing that because they know that this

1580
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: is the way they can authenticate their items. So imagine

1581
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: if all of them got that. You tap it now

1582
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: you can see that this is real. Right now, there's

1583
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 1: nowhere to fake that you got. You can see the

1584
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: supply chain, where the whole transaction. So Kanye West say, listen,

1585
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: you know I'm about to come out with these new shoes.

1586
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna be completely independent, you understand me. He naming

1587
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: whatever he wants to. Yeah, we're going how much money

1588
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: does he make on the blockchain? And he ain't got

1589
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: to go through Chase, He ain't got to go through

1590
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: no bank nothing. You mean direct to consumer. This is

1591
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: why it's dangerous because those people that never had power,

1592
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: they can get direct power by utilizing a technology that

1593
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: allows in the Surfin Navigator system, it's just business models.

1594
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: So we have business models right to where most of

1595
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: the older the ogs, they only know how to get

1596
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: checks from White America. They don't know how to create

1597
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: their own chain. We have a generation where we learn

1598
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: how to create our own money, so they don't understand

1599
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: independent thought because their money has always been connected white

1600
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: corporate America. Yes, right, So even when I teach we

1601
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: got the BWO where I coach my students, we teach

1602
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: them how to utilize AI blockchain, all these different things,

1603
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: and it blows their mind because I teach them business

1604
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,480
Speaker 1: models of how to implement.

1605
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 2: That so important, right, And what I'm learning in.

1606
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: America right now is we to our entrepreneurship i Q

1607
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: is so low, right, Like financial literacy is important because

1608
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: we live in the same way we live in food dess.

1609
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: We live in you know, financial deserts right where we

1610
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: ad financial insecurity, right where we don't have access to

1611
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: somebody who can teach us education.

1612
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: Which makes you scared anything exactly.

1613
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: But now you don't know how to move. You don't

1614
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: know even how calculate your net worth your assets minus

1615
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: your your liabilities. Right, so the amount that you make right,

1616
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: your earned income, the assets that you have minus your debt,

1617
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: that's your network. So each person needs to sit down

1618
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: and calculate that their net worth in order to create

1619
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: a clear plan to increase their networth. So if we

1620
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: look at your family last name, there's a net worth

1621
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: attached to that.

1622
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,839
Speaker 2: No matter if you calculating it or not exactly.

1623
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: But when I look at these entertainers, they don't know

1624
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: how to extrapulate the value of their own network.

1625
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: Right, So Kanye West can turn himself.

1626
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: Into a billionaire inpendent off his intellectual property because he's

1627
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: made everybody else billions and he was the factor denominated.

1628
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: So let's let's be clear. Forbes can say what they want,

1629
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 3: Kanye West is still a billionaire.

1630
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: That's if you're operating off old institutional systems of evaluation

1631
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: new models of evaluation.

1632
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 3: That's where his values there. Bro y'all took a status.

1633
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 3: His value is still there. Y'all can't take it.

1634
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: Jay Z, Beyonce, everybody go sell their masters to all

1635
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: these people instead of what if you put your masters

1636
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: on the blockchain and let people fractionalize buy into How

1637
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: many people go buy into Beyonce catalog?

1638
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, come on now. So you got to

1639
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: understand that a lot of.

1640
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: People got all of this value sitting in the equity

1641
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: of their brands that they're not moving because they've been

1642
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: taught to yo. When you want to sell it, go here,

1643
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: go here, go to the people. Now, see there's actual

1644
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: Chinese companies buying into call it was it music bonds

1645
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: or oryalty bonds, something of the nature. But they're buying

1646
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: into music because music streaming is increasing like thirty three

1647
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: percent per year, so the industry is increasing every year.

1648
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: So it's a safe place to store your money because

1649
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: over time the industry is yo. They know that they're

1650
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: going to get a certain percentage return on their money.

1651
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 1: So instead of having your money in your bank, you

1652
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: can actually bank with your favorite rapper and say that. Listen,

1653
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 1: over years, you're going to get You're going to continue

1654
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: to grow Future, You're going to continue to grow Drake,

1655
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: You're going to continue to grow Jay, You're going to

1656
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: continue to grow Beyonce or whoever it is. Let me

1657
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: buy into your royalties. That's going to give me, most

1658
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: likely more than a zero point two per six returns

1659
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: the average saving interest in the bank. You might be

1660
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: getting ten percent, may you get five percent, but there's

1661
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: guaranteed value and your catalog, and that's good game.

1662
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 2: That's good game. I got two more questions. What is

1663
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: four X trading? For X trading is trading?

1664
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 3: And I asked you that because every pair, every time

1665
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,560
Speaker 3: I post, I got twenty thousand of them people under that,

1666
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, what is that mean? But I heard

1667
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 3: you mention it someone that said keys must know what

1668
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 3: that means.

1669
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: What is the currency trading? It's currency trading, right, so

1670
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: you know it's it's trading between the different values.

1671
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 2: Of different currencies.

1672
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: Now I'm not a four x trader, right, but let's

1673
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: say you know the dollar the payeso is worth. Let's

1674
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: say the pay so worth fifty cent right in Mexico.

1675
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: But it's a trade that against the dollar. Then you

1676
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: got to give me two pays sols to get a dollar, right,

1677
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: So at what currency trading? There are trading at different

1678
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: values of currencies at different times around the world because

1679
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 1: they flux you at.

1680
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,560
Speaker 2: So they're using the American dollar to base that on.

1681
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 2: They can use dollars, they use gold, they even use commodities,

1682
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: they use rice.

1683
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: So the fluctuating value of it is it's worth fifty

1684
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: cent at this time, but then it may be worth

1685
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: sixty cent later, right, so now they got a ten

1686
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: cent spread.

1687
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: Right now.

1688
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give a break down for a

1689
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: currency track because I'm not a currency trad whatsoever. But

1690
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: we do it when we go exchange our money when

1691
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: we're traveling in different countries.

1692
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: That's what that is.

1693
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: Right. So you may not get as much for your money,

1694
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: sometimes you get more.

1695
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 2: For it, right, Right, depending on where you are.

1696
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: So they're trading different commodities to where they can get

1697
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: more for that money.

1698
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

1699
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: But it's a futures market. It's so many different markets

1700
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:55,560
Speaker 1: when it comes to that.

1701
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: Right, And my last question, give me three people you

1702
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: want to interview?

1703
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 1: Oh mmm, Now, my my dreaming of you, of course

1704
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: will be the honorable min It's a little spikhin shut.

1705
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: Oh man, that boy, he's a monster.

1706
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 3: Man, he's a he's he's probably one of the best

1707
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: communicators in the world.

1708
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: Yes, like easily you said three. Now I got a

1709
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: narrow down from there. Jay Z god to say, jay.

1710
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 2: Z, you know you're putting it in the universe. Jay

1711
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 2: got to say, j Mmm, who's up there? Let me

1712
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: through an interesting one. Let me see if I gotta

1713
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 2: spend damn. This last one is tough. It's not you

1714
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You gotta pick a catalog.

1715
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: Let me see that jay Z covers the rap fire,

1716
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: KHNK covers the spirit.

1717
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: Right, So now I gotta go something different.

1718
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Yeah, take your time, you're putting this in

1719
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 3: the Union Verse universe responding us were righteous now.

1720
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 2: Because it's funny.

1721
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: I've been having this conversation all week, but to DNS

1722
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: it down is different.

1723
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 2: You understand me. And I always say that got selected.

1724
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 1: You got actors, right, and I don't think enough people

1725
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: interview actors that have had influence over the court. So

1726
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, in that list I got like Denzel,

1727
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: I got uh, Morgan Freeman, Samuel Right, a long list

1728
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: of different people over there in that category. They just

1729
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: had massive impactly right. And then intellectually, I like to

1730
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: interview Neil de Grasse Tyson. I even got some white

1731
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: people on the list, like some authors and some scientists

1732
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: that I would love to interview.

1733
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 2: Robert Green. It's a monster to give and have a

1734
01:22:53,680 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: conversation with him. He's a great author. Yeah, Doctor Umar

1735
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 2: would be a good interview. Yeah, you I can make it.

1736
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: I can get get you in contact with him. TD

1737
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 2: Jakes would be a good one.

1738
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 3: That's when I see that, and this is so important

1739
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 3: that we have that list, Bro, we gotta put that

1740
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 3: in the universe because we don't know who watching.

1741
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 2: They probably watching like, OK, wait.

1742
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: On meat, it's on you man, get that one going

1743
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: for sure. I always wanted to interview nas loupe Fiasco

1744
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: actually shout out to.

1745
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 2: I got meat coming to as well.

1746
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, rappers wise, well, I know I'm missing so many,

1747
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: even the j Coles, the you just have such a grace.

1748
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: I think you and Kendrick auld really be on something

1749
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 2: that'll be dope. Dope.

1750
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: Who's somebody that just to post somebody that's different, you know,

1751
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: rest in peace? That would have been amazing, you know

1752
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: legend then damn man, James far Kahin, I didn't even

1753
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: I never thought about j being my top two though,

1754
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: but he is.

1755
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 2: Actually, Yeah, he got so much to offer us.

1756
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 3: I think that we need to hear from them more

1757
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 3: sitting next to people like us, because the questions, the

1758
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 3: conversation that is different that the pathways we're gonna go, like,

1759
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 3: we're not a lot of these people talk to some

1760
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 3: of our most important people, and they keep them too

1761
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 3: far up here. We need the information, we need the

1762
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 3: layers break that down, come on down with it. Because

1763
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 3: Jay and talk based on how you ask them the questions, right,

1764
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 3: So he need people like us to really Oh.

1765
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be layers to it because the reality

1766
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: of it is that you don't get to have certain

1767
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: conversations until you talk to certain people, right, Right, So

1768
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 1: I can bring out different aspects. So I like the

1769
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: way people think, and I'm interested in so many different

1770
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: things that i can expand on many different topics being

1771
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: that I'm polymathic, right, So I don't even know if

1772
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: I can pull the third one off the hat man.

1773
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 2: That's what's uping.

1774
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: The third one is like that third one is like

1775
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: five different people categories. And yeah, because even in women,

1776
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: I want Lauren Hill would be a dope one. You know.

1777
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: I love to sit down Lauren Hill and had that conversation.

1778
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: You know, there's really a lot of and I've been

1779
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: trying to gather a long list of women that I

1780
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: want to sit down.

1781
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 3: We do need to amplify them as well. Yeah, and

1782
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 3: then your your approach when you speak with him. I

1783
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 3: heard a couple of your episodes when you get into

1784
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 3: the mask getting energy to feminine energy and how to

1785
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: appreciate both of those and how they can coexist. I

1786
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 3: think we need that conversation to be amplified. So, yeah,

1787
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 3: I think all of that will be dope.

1788
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: Man.

1789
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 3: We gotta we gotta make some of them happen. For sure,

1790
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 3: we can make it. Doctor Umar having easy.

1791
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's one for the culture. Yeah,

1792
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: for sure.

1793
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: I want to do that one specifically for the culture right.

1794
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: Planning on doing Dame Dash interview as well.

1795
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you understand me. That won't gonna be good.

1796
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he they got he, he they got he been

1797
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 3: speaking truth to power, So that'll be dope. That definitely

1798
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 3: be dope. But I appreciate you coming through man. Like

1799
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 3: I said, you know, it's love man. Anytime you need me,

1800
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 3: you know, I'm on speed dive. I appreciate having this

1801
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: conversation with you one hundred percent man experienced podcast.

1802
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,680
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1803
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,160
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1804
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,760
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