1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by Draft Kings. That the 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Ravens pulled off a twenty four to sixteen win in London, 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: huge win after what happened in Pittsburgh. Garrett Downing and 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I are here in the back of a bus. 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, recording this one the lead, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: here's the Ravens won the big game. Yeah, but if 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: the subplot is the scenery here where we're doing the podcast, 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: which is the back of the bus from Tottenham Stadium 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: to the airport. This is our commitment to the listeners. 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: This is why I can't go. I can't go one 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: hundred percent. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: To be honest, I got back a little bit because 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: this is mildly awkward and embarrassing. 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: The other part that's just set the scene is I'm 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: wearing a lounge T shirt. I'm freezing my butt off 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: and have been the entire game. A didn't realize it 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: was an outdoor press box. B packed my jackets, sweat, 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: both jackets and a sweatshirt in my checked baggage. Just 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: amateur hour. Yeah, thank god the Ravens. They they held 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: up there and to the park. 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: It would be a long cold but so yeah, instead 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: we're in the back of the bus, so you know 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: there might be some guess who knows, you know, Lamar 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: Mike walk back and say, hey, guys, can I jump 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: on the lounge real quick? 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: You know you were on bus eight right bus line 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: bus one back or the back of the back bus. 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: Back of the back bus, yes, exactly. Anyway, really, I. 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: Mean a you know, we were both here in twenty 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: seventeen to come back to London and put on this 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: kind of show. You know, it obviously wasn't the ideal show, right, 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Like again for a second straight game, you feel like 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens could have blown out their opponent. Yeah, and 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: they didn't, right, but it was a winning show that 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: we put on for the Ravens flock who a is 38 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: from Europe and whatnot, the many international fans who came 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: to this game and the ones who came across the 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: pond from Baltimore and honestly, like just really cool to 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: see that. 42 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: You know. I think a lot of people shout out to. 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: My guy Nacho from Spain who stapped me up with 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: the press box and like, man, this is you know, 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: I was like, sorry, we didn't score enough touchdowns for 46 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: you and He's like, dude, they won, Like this was 47 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: so much fun, This is great, you know. 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: And so I was happy about that. 49 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just to kind of set the stage 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: for the week. It was, I thought, another great week. 51 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: And we talked about this in some of the previous podcasts, 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: but kind of a homecoming of source for Ravens fans, 53 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: especially Ravens fans are in Europe who don't get to 54 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: see this team very often, and for sure connected with 55 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: it was awesome. He was a live podcast that we 56 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: did at the team pub and the chance to connect 57 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: with fans all across the world was awesome. And I 58 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: think that this game to be able to for these 59 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: fans to be able to see this team in person 60 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: and get a win, it was just an awesome culmination 61 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: to a really good week. 62 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 63 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean what everybody told us all week long. Whenever 64 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: I talked to fans who were here in twenty seventeen, 65 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: they were like, it was an amazing week. Terrible game 66 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: that I don't even want to remember again. I put 67 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: that out of my memory, and now you know what, 68 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: they can save the memory of the whole week, the 69 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: higher experience they could say for that one, and that's special, 70 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, and I think from. 71 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: A you know, I think it's also like beyond just 72 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: the London thing, from a current team thing really big. 73 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest thing for me is that the 74 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: Ravens didn't let the disappointment of the Steelers game beat. 75 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: Up twice yep, and it could have gone that way, right, 76 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: They had that potential. I mean, the Ravens come out 77 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: of the gate, They're playing really well. They're not punching 78 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: it in the end zone, but still playing really well. 79 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: I mean they had outgained the Titans like two hundred 80 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: and forty yards to sixty or something at halftime. I 81 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: mean they were dominating the game. And then all of 82 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, Derrick Henry gets a long run, 83 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: they punched it in the end zone, Mark throws an interception. 84 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: You know what was a big lead errors to five. 85 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah right, and you're like, oh my god, this can't 86 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: happen again, right, this can't happen. Yeah right, And for 87 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: them to then tighten the butt belt buckle yep and 88 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: get that win done. And it wasn't just defensively, I 89 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: mean the offense made enough play used to get it 90 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: done too. Lamar ripping that pass down the middle to 91 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews was a huge play in this game. To 92 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: then march down the field and get a field goal 93 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: that was massive in giving you a making it a 94 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: two score game. You know, Stone with the interception was 95 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: a huge play in this game that really turned the moment. 96 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: So to see the defense cranking up the pressure late 97 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: in the game to hold him out of the end zone, 98 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, those are all you like to see this 99 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: team kind of finish like that. They could have finished 100 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: better with touchdowns. It could have been a little bit 101 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: easier to breathe than not an on like kick situation, 102 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: but still they. 103 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: Got the job. Yeah. 104 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Kind of the big storyline of the week was the 105 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: London thing and coming out early in that decision and 106 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: practicing here. That was the big story. But secondarily I 107 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: think it was bouncing back from Pittsburgh. 108 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they had to. They had had to. I 109 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: wrote that this week. 110 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: I thought the stakes are really high in this game, 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: really high, Like you're flying back across the pond with 112 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: back to back losses, you know, one being against your 113 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: rival Steelers like that would have been tough to swallow. 114 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: Let's not even think about that. Well, I'll tell you 115 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: right now. We wouldn't be doing the podcast right now 116 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: on the bus. That's true, That's very true. We would 117 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: not be You have to wait a couple you have 118 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: to wait a couple of days for that podcast. 119 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: We delivered, We deliver, but we wouldn't, you know, have 120 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: the fishing chips feeling. 121 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: You know, I think I think too, Like just from 122 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: from that a big talking point over the course of 123 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: the week, and the Ravens actually had basically a team 124 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: meeting where this was the discussion. It was finishing games. 125 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: What do you need to do in order to finish games? 126 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: And well than this, right, yeah, we have we have 127 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the components to be a really good team, but we 128 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: need to we need to put it together. We need 129 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: to eliminate the stakes. And you did see you know, 130 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: we don't you know, you don't want to focus all 131 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: on on Oh well, they didn't score in the red 132 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: zone and that was the problem. Right, Well, like they 133 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: eliminated a lot of the stakes that killed them in Pittsburgh. Right, 134 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: you didn't have nearly as many turnovers, he didn't have 135 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: the drop balls. Yep, like kind of to what we 136 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: said this week. It's not like they're going to all 137 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden become the perfect team, right, Like it's 138 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: hard to play a pitch a perfect game, right, but 139 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: if you could eliminate half the mistakes, you're gonna win games. 140 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: And that's I think what we saw today, right do 141 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: I still feel like certainly the ceiling is higher than 142 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: what we saw today and this offense at some point 143 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: is going to kind of just put it all together 144 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: and score three, right like that that's coming eventually, hopefully. 145 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: But they eliminated a lot of the mistakes that can 146 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: just kill you, and that was enough to with this defense, 147 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, the way this defense is playing to win 148 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the game. 149 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: And they didn't beat themselves like that. That's basically I 150 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: think what happened against the Colt Ste's what happened again 151 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: the Steelers, And oftentimes that is what happens in the NFL. 152 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: Good teams or not. Good teams can beat themselves, and 153 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: I do think that's what the Ravens did against the Steelers. 154 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: But they didn't do that today. Like justin Tucker six 155 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: for six, like they were all pretty much chip shots 156 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: by his standards, but he went out there. You just 157 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: made them, you know, deral six field goals. They weren't 158 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: turning the ball over to the level that they were 159 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: in the pre war, and so they didn't they weren't 160 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: like the procedural stuff, you. 161 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: Know, that really eliminated some of the drag that Ton Monk. 162 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and so I think that it was it 163 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: was sufficient. 164 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: The red zone thing is yeah, perplexing, and because you know, 165 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: here we are four weeks into the season and everybody, 166 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: including myself, is writing the story of like, wow, look 167 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: at the Ravens red zone offense. They're converting at an 168 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: eighty percent clip right, and and now of a sudden 169 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: two games and. 170 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: They spent you know, all that time reading your articles, 171 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: your articles, pat on the back point right now, give 172 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: me the big point your articles Crown to the Champion 173 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: week four us what you were doing. 174 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: Ridiculous. 175 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean and and then you have back 176 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: to back games where you struggle in the in the 177 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: red zone, and you know, I tend to say that 178 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: these kind of things happened, like I don't know that 179 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna react to it. 180 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: I will say make two points on it. 181 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: One, when they were converting at a pretty high rate, 182 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was doing a significant chunk of that with 183 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: his legs. 184 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: We saw him, you know, getting the end zone running 185 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: a number of times. 186 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: Whether teams are expecting that more now, maybe they weren't 187 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: expecting that as much early on or whatever they've clamped 188 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: down on that. You know, he's he's taken some some 189 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: hits right around the goal line and not quite made it. 190 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: But with that said, you know, last week now the 191 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: drops were the issue, right, but people were like, why 192 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: didn't you just run Gus four straight times from the 193 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: from the you know, inside the five, you would have 194 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: gotten the end zine. You run Gus straight ahead for 195 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: street times. Now everybody now the reaction on Twitter is like, why. 196 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: You run the ball so much? You throw it down there? 197 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: You've been throwing. You've been throwing so well, you've been 198 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: carving them up through the air. 199 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Well. 200 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: It's a little bit different in the red zone. I 201 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: don't know, if you know. 202 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Some of these people who like call themselves film you 203 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: know and like experts here realized that the field gets 204 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: condensed and the red zone it's a little harder to throw. 205 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: So anyway, you know, everybody's. 206 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty hind sight, you know, has twenty twenty high 207 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: slate when it comes to play calling in the red 208 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: zone all of a sudden, Yeah, look, is it something 209 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: they had to fix one hundred percent Yes. By second 210 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: point was also that the Titans they're you know, they 211 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: don't have a top five defense. They're not one of 212 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: the best defense in the league except in the red zone, 213 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: where they came into this game ranked third in the league, right, 214 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: And I think that's a significant data point, Like that's 215 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: something to take keep in mind when you're evaluating the 216 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: red zone performance today for the Ravens. 217 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, like I don't see like a 218 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: common trend over the course of the last two games. 219 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: Like last week it was the drops. This game, I 220 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: would have liked to see him get a little bit 221 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: more push, you know, front on some of those players 222 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: where they try to run us down there near the 223 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: goal line. And I think that this offensive line is 224 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: good and will but I think this is a good, 225 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: pretty good Texas defensive front. I mean, they're a physical 226 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: football team. Jeffrey Simmons is a good defensive lineman. Like 227 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: you just mentioned that they're pretty solid, that they are 228 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: very solid in the red zone. So I think that 229 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: all of those factors contribute. I think the Ravens know 230 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: that they need to be better down there, and I 231 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: think they will. I mean again, two weeks ago, the 232 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: conversation was how they're the best team in the NFL 233 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: in the red zone and that's one of the reasons 234 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: they've been so good offensively now and Justin Tucker kicked 235 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: six field goals and it's like, well, what's up in 236 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: the red zone? So I get it. But I like 237 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: what I again, like what I go back to with 238 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: this game is like they they didn't beat themselves, and 239 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: like I liked the I like the decision making, I 240 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 2: liked just I just liked I thought that. Like my 241 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: takeaway from this game is like it's a tough circumstance. 242 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: You go on the road, not just the road, but 243 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: you go across the country, you go play in London. 244 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: You're coming off the Steelers game, Like this was a 245 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: tough week. Like basically, twelve hours after getting home from 246 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: that Steelers game, this team was back on a plane 247 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: flying to London, trying to get caught up on sleep, 248 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: practicing on a soccer field during the week, you know, 249 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: away from their families, and then they play a tough, 250 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: physical game against the Titans. I mean, this is a 251 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: physical game. Both these teams came out of this feeling it. 252 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: You could tell. 253 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Ryan Tannehill left the game, multiple games, multiple 254 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: guys get banged up, like it was a physical game. 255 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: And so with all that to get the win. I 256 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: think it's just it's massive, and it says a lot 257 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: about this team. 258 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it kind of you know, 259 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: it's like, as you said, it's hard to project too 260 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: much in this league because it's such a week to 261 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: week league. But one one constant that we've seen under 262 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: John Harball is this his team's ability to respond to losses. 263 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't have the stats in front of me, but 264 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: the record, the Ravens record after a loss is something ridiculous. 265 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: And and this was another case in point during John 266 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: Harper's tenure. 267 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: They the third best in the league after a loss. Yeah, 268 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: in that time frame. 269 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: And so you know, I do want to I've in 270 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: a little bit here. Let's start offensively. You know, we 271 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: talked about the red zone and stuff. I thought Leabar 272 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: Jackson had a pretty efficient day. John Harball describes it 273 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: as courage as one of the most courageous performances he's 274 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: he's seen, he said, and certainly Lamar made a number 275 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: of plays and critical situations, you know, key runs kind 276 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: of weaving around defenders. I mean ran for sixty two yards, 277 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: completed twenty one to thirty passes for two twenty three 278 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: touchdown in one interception, only. 279 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Took one sack. Pretty efficient day for Lamar. 280 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: And there's plays with his legs, as we mentioned, were 281 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: really big plays. So I thought it was a strong 282 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: another strong performance by Lamar his receivers. You know, I 283 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: don't recall it dropping the game. Yeah, don't either, period, 284 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: which is after what we went through the past week. 285 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Awesome and really a good sign of like your ability 286 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: to shake that off that it's not going to become 287 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: kind of a mental block, right, Yeah, Like you know what, 288 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: it's important to come out hot early and come out 289 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: of the gates and make some of those catches and 290 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: that it's like all right, that Pittsburgh game is out 291 00:12:59,679 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: of memory. 292 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: That's that's over, you know, to move on quick. 293 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: That was important. That was very important, and I liked 294 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: it too. Like Zay Flowers, you're probably getting to Zay. 295 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: Like Zey gets his first career touchdown, which is great 296 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: to see, but he was a guy who had some 297 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: drops last week, and for a young player, you kind 298 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 2: of wonder, how's that gonna affect him week to week. 299 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: I knew this week just watching him around the Ravens Hotel, 300 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: like just big smile as usual, like you know, until 301 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: you know, but like nothing about his demeanor this week 302 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: told me that he was like still rattled and that 303 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: was in his head. 304 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I agree. 305 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 2: I felt that he to me seemed like he was 306 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: gonna be just fine, Like I didn't worry about that 307 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: at all. And then that was the case. You know. 308 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: I think he played well and he gets in the 309 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: end zone and uh. It was after the game. I 310 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: asked Odell about it and I was like what, and 311 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: He's like, man, if the cameras were on me, you 312 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: would have seen nothing but teeth. I was just smiling 313 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: ear to ear because I was so happy for him, 314 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: like and uh, and I think that was genuine, like 315 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: I could. I think that there was real excitement for him. 316 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: I showed Zay the play, you know, he watched it 317 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 2: on his uh on my phone of him scoring for 318 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: the first time. A bunch of his teammates were reacting 319 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: Bar and Odell and it was you could tell that 320 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: there was like genuine excitement of love for him getting 321 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: in the answer for the first time and then being 322 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 2: able to share in that moment during the game and 323 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: then again after the game. 324 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: Did you see the celebration he did? 325 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: He started handing flowersmates well when he said that this 326 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: week I would have to do something flowers related with 327 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: my last name, and then he did. 328 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: It's like kind of like the flower girl at a wedding. 329 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: He called a shout, he called a shot, he called 330 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: a shot. 331 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty good. 332 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good. 333 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: Maybe you think that becomes this thing, like is he 334 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: sticking with that. 335 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: Because some guys like you just or you just have 336 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: you have a celebration or celebration. 337 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: You feel like the big time guys like that's like 338 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: their thing, right, Maybe maybe that's his thing. That's the 339 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: follow Did you ask him that? Were you a big 340 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: jay journalist? You have your same questions like videos on 341 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: your phone? Did you ask the relevant questions? Did you 342 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: do your job? 343 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: It's big questions? Is that I talked town celebrasion here 344 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: to stay. Everybody's wondering. Everybody's wondering. 345 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: Yes, that was the natural question. Did you ask a 346 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: big point? 347 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: I'm saving that one for you. I'm saving you can 348 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: ask him journalist. It's going to back here, it's gonna 349 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: back here. He's got to do mission possible. Bush. 350 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: So you know, one one play that and I'm sure 351 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: we'll look at this one on the film breakdown. But 352 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: I thought that the throw from Lamar down the scene 353 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: to Mark Andrews the thirty eight yard or in the 354 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: fourth quarter was just a big play. That was a 355 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: that was a game winning throw right there and throwing catch. 356 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: And I just thought that was kind of to Hardball's 357 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: point about courageousness. You know, that was that was a 358 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: big time, big time play. 359 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: Oh, there was huge. 360 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: It was a strike. 361 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: Yep, it was. 362 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: It was and so and then it's like we said 363 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: it a million times, but like, you know, big moment, 364 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: who you need to step up? Hey, guess who Mark Andrews. 365 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: And like there's all these other new weapons and excitement 366 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: in the offense, but like when you need a big 367 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: play in that type of moment, Mark Andrews is still 368 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: the guy and a lot of those situations and it 369 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: was good to see. So all right, let's let's take 370 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: a quick break and then we will come back. We'll 371 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: flip over to the other side of the ball and 372 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: discuss what's ahead for the Ravens. All right, listeners, The 373 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: Sea Geek studio here is on the road is in 374 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: the back of the Ravens team bus. 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Gave up a couple 393 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: of long runs, you know, one to ta J Spears late, 394 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: one to Derrick Henry, but like, overall they played, I 395 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: thought they played really really solidly. The only touchdown they 396 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: gave up was on a short field. You know, I 397 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: don't know, I thought, I just. 398 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I thought it was I thought it was 399 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: a strong defensive warts. 400 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the defense continues to show me that 401 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: they're one of the best in the league. 402 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely agree. I mean Derek Henry had six runs 403 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: for thirteen yards in the first half. 404 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: Uh huh is that good? 405 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: No, Now it's look at the full game. Of course, 406 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: he always the top one hundred yards. 407 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, But like kind of their emphasis, especially early on, 408 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: was stop Derrick Henry near the line of scrimmage, don't 409 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: let him get going. 410 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: And really for the most part, they did that. 411 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: Right. I Mean, we have this conversation all the time. 412 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: You can't just say, well, you eliminate the one right 413 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: that will be their char right is, like that's how 414 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: you go from a very very very good defense to 415 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: a great defense. Right is you can't have those once 416 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: right that at the end of the day we say, well, 417 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: everything other than that one, everything is great, right, that's 418 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: their next charge, right, and that's good. You know, I 419 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: think it can be good that you still have meat 420 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: on the bone like ways to improve, right, and that 421 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: will be what I think Mike McDonald will probably stress 422 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: this week, is like, we can't give up that one, right, 423 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: and you take that away though, Derrick Henry has rushes 424 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: for thirty four yards on the game. Yeah, right, And 425 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: so I thought defensively, really really strong performance. Great to 426 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: see the pass rush get going. Six sacks in this game, 427 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: two from Jenevian Clowney, two from Justin Mattabek. The Ravens 428 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: might end the week number one in the league in sacks, 429 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: which for people like you, big point, who were super 430 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: concerned about the pass rush going into the year, like, 431 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it continues to be true the concerns where 432 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: pass rush perhaps of the biggest concerns with the team 433 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: heading into the year were pass rushing corner Yeah, because 434 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: of all the injuries at quarter Yeah, and pass rush 435 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: and gosh they both been strengths. Yeah, totally, and especially 436 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: to see it really get cranked up, especially late in 437 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: this game, was was pretty impressive. 438 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 439 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: I thought and for clowney guy who's gotten so much, 440 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: he got insane pressure in this game. Yeah, he like 441 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: got pressures on like fifty percent of his rush. It 442 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: was insane. 443 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know what something I kind of forgot about 444 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: with him is that he played for the Titans. 445 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 446 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And and so when I did an interview with 447 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: him after the game and just asked him kind of 448 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: about the significance of the game, and he pointed that 449 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: out pretty quickly. You know, it's former team. It's good 450 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: to go out there against the former team and had 451 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: this kind of a day. And so I think that 452 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: that motivated him a little bit. I just thought that, 453 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: you know, he's been close on so many Yeah, previously 454 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: he even said he felt like there's a couple more 455 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: than he could have had today, you know, like he 456 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: was living in the backfield. And I asked him, like, so, 457 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: what is it about this team that's like allowing you 458 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: to flourish away? Like he's been better than I expected. 459 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: Like I I thought that like he came with a 460 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: ton of talent, but like his he had like two 461 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: sacks last year. Yeah, the impact that he's had it 462 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: on the game on a consistent level throughout the season 463 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: has been really remarkable, and he pointed to Roquan and 464 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: Patrick Queen and basically said, like, those two guys, they're 465 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: the best duo in the league, and they set the 466 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: tone and everybody else kind of follows, and like they 467 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: keep him really focused and dialed in at a high level. 468 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: And so you can get off the bus and get 469 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: some of these Jamaican patties real quick. 470 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: We might be able to just hop off, hop on, 471 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 3: hop off on Saturday. 472 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think that, like he I've been really 473 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: impressed with Clownie, Yeah, on and off the field. I 474 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: just like what I've seen from him. 475 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, I think John Harball 476 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: kind of uh. 477 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: I thought he said it well after the game, saying 478 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: he's another one of those veterans who you didn't know 479 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: you were a Raven until you're a Raven, right, and 480 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: like you always had that hunch that you know, the 481 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: Ravens have kind of pursued him for a long time, 482 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: seemingly been in the at least in the conversation. 483 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And. 484 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: I think it's also you know, the Raves have kind 485 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: of unleashed him in a way. You know, he was 486 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: pretty clear about well, the Browns put stuck me on 487 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: one side and they weren't really utilizing him in the 488 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: way that he thought he could be. And Mike McDonald 489 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: kind of putting him in a lot of different ways 490 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: to succeed. You know, you see justin Matta Peekay some 491 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: on the edge and Clowney rushing from the interior. It's 492 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: just being creative about that usage. I think is helping 493 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: him maximize the talent that he still has. 494 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike McDonald has said or everyone has said about Mike, 495 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: and I think he's done it since he's been in Baltimore, 496 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: like he puts his players in position to succeed. He'll 497 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: build it around the players and be really creative about 498 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: how he uses them and I think that's been what 499 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: we've seen from him so far. 500 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 501 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: You know a perfect example of that is how the 502 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: Ravens have used Kyle Hamilton and they've been created with that. 503 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: And I think clown is another example. And in terms 504 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: of Hamilton, you know, tough day for him. He got ejected. 505 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: You know, it definitely should have been flagged on that 506 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: play over to helmet to helmet hit on Chris Moore, 507 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: which you know he left the game with a concussion, 508 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: he explained, and John Harbal said they got no explanation 509 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: on the field. Harwall said, it sounded. 510 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: Like it came from New York. 511 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: That's yeah, and that's what that indicates, not that the 512 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: referees didn't have any explanation on the field for Kyle Hamilton, 513 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: for anybody. 514 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: So that got that got seemingly phoned in. 515 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, just I feel I felt for him. 516 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: I think he was just I think it really just 517 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: personally bothered him. You know, he wasn't He's not a 518 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: dirty player at all. He's not head hunting. Like you're 519 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: in a tough situation, you make, you make a decision 520 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: in a you know, bang bang moment. 521 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: I think he was like running through the ball. You know, 522 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: he was running through He's a physical player. He's running 523 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: through got receiver goes up and you're just like kind 524 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: of running through it. There wasn't to me, And why 525 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: I was surprised by the ejection was it didn't seem 526 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: like targeting to me. It wasn't like he changed his 527 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: head position to meet Chris Moore's head, right. He just 528 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: was running a straight line. And that's what happened. That 529 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: to what ended up happening, right that That was my analysis, right, 530 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: And and we both know Kyle and there's like no 531 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: part of him that's that kind of player. 532 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just felt for him. He said, you know, 533 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: his family came over here. Today's brother's birthday. I think 534 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: he was really hoping to have a big game, and 535 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: I just felt really bad for him. But yeah, so 536 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: he leaves the game. Marcus Williams then leaves the game 537 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: with a hamstring injury. In steps Geno Stone. 538 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: Well, that happened during Genostin's return on his interception, stepped in, 539 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: made for Kyle and then made the interception. And then 540 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: on that play is when Marcus Williams goes down to 541 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: now you're forced to put Brandon Stevens back there. She's 542 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: been playing corner all season long, during the regular season 543 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: at least. I mean, the guy's got a lot of 544 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: experience previously at safety, but he's been playing corner and 545 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: playing at a very high level. But you know, you 546 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: turned to me, You're like, who's going to be playing 547 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 1: corner now? And I was like yeah, I was like, wait, 548 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing the med, Like what the safety is? Are 549 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: your two starting safeties out? Daryl Worley's not on He's 550 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: on IR. Ordar's Washington's on IR. 551 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 3: Happening he was playing safety? 552 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, it was like both of us 553 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: are kind of like, oh, yeah, it's gotta be Brandon Stevens, 554 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: and gosh, his versatility just comes up clutch again and 555 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've closed out the game that way. 556 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: And luckily the Ravens cornerback death. 557 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: You know, they've been sitting here and now that Marlin's back, 558 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: you have Darby n Rocky Scene who have been you know, 559 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: playing some snaps, but not as much obviously as they 560 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: were previously. They can step in at corner. So the 561 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: raven the Ravens, I think it speaks to a their 562 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: defensive secondaries, versatility, MB just the depth of this roster, 563 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: like we talk about that all the time, is there's 564 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: so much depth. And that's the reason why they had 565 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: the preseason winning streak and all that stuff. And it's 566 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: because like players like Gino Stone can just step in 567 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: and get a game changing pick, right and Brandon Stevens, 568 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: who nobody was really thinking was gonna be a lockdown 569 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: one hundred play every single one hundred percent of the 570 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: snap's corner to start the years. 571 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 3: Is that? Yeah, right, and so it's pretty impressive. 572 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 573 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: John Harbor actually brought up to death postgame, you know, 574 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: basically the shout out to Eric to Costain. The way 575 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: they've built this team and feels like the depth is 576 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: really strong, and we saw that today. 577 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: Yep. 578 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: So I think you know, Special teams got the big 579 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: return from then had a blocked extra point which wasn't 580 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: great and kind of a mixed bag there, but the 581 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: big return for Juveni was huge. Got recovered to fumble 582 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: on the punt that looked like a classic old example 583 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: of the you know you're like a foot from him, 584 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: which it doesn't ye see the work, but I think 585 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: it was I think it was Keyvan it was I. 586 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: Think it was Keaton Mitchell. Keton Mitchell down there. 587 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: He gave him the shout. I don't know if he 588 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: shouted out that's what I'm that's what I'm look like. Yeah, 589 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: maybe he didn't. Kind of got him. 590 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: See whoever, whoever that was, whoever gave shout, well done, 591 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: del Sean Phillips got give him a shout for the 592 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: shout exactly, well done. Del Sean Phillips got the recovery. 593 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: So you know, I thought that was that was a 594 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: big play. Right at the end of the first half, 595 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: you're kind of in the brink of field goal range. 596 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: Harps. 597 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: Besides, you know what we're winning here, defenses playing lights out, 598 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna punt this thing and kind of whatever. Make 599 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: sure that you know, you don't miss a field goal 600 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: and they have a short field to come back. 601 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: You just get a cheap rink, a cheap three at 602 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: the end of half, get a nice way to go 603 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: into halftime. 604 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: That was a big three, yeah, right in the grand 605 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: scheme of things, So that that was pretty big things 606 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: to see the ball bounce the Ravens way. 607 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I feel like so many of those plays 608 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: you see it pop out and then like there's just 609 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: another guy who happens to be standing there and falls 610 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: on it. 611 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 3: Come on. 612 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: This was this was nice. 613 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: So kind of kind of wrapping up here, Garrett. What 614 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: did you think of the environment? 615 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: It was awesome just to say, usually press boxes are 616 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: behind glass, you know, and so you don't yeah, most 617 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: of them are, and so you don't necessarily, yeah, you 618 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: don't get it necessarily a feel for like the crowd. 619 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: This was actually outside. It was a beautiful day. It 620 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: was a little chili, but it was it was. It 621 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: was nice. I thought it was really nice to say 622 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: it was it was. I thought the atmosphere was great. 623 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: I think that like I did a fan off from 624 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: me a beer. Did you see that happen? Did you 625 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: think talk? 626 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: I did not declined it was a big jay journalist. 627 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 3: Uh huh, but pretty cool. 628 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was. You're really interacting with fans. I 629 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: thought the atmosphere was great. They would play songs like 630 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: Sweet Caroline and everybody was saying long, which is really cool. 631 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: I almost caught a T shirt from the T shirt Ken. 632 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just was awesome. Like at kickoff, there was 633 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: not an empty seat in the house. 634 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. I thought it was. 635 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: I thought it was great and it's good to be 636 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: getting off this bus flying back to Baltimore with a win. 637 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 638 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, the Ravens, you know, no no rest for the 639 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: weary here. Uh that we're gonna play the Detroit Lions. 640 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: The Ravens did not opted not to take a bye 641 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: ye h after after this win, so right back to 642 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: it against the good Lions teams. 643 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: So thanks for listening. 644 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: As always, you can reach us at the lounge at 645 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. 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