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Speaker 1: So everyone hates my house, that's not true.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be great for me because it crystallizes

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Speaker 2: a conversation I've been having for a long time. So

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Speaker 2: only a select few people in the public eye really

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Speaker 2: were built for the teflawn that it takes. Meaning like

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Speaker 2: someone like Selena Gomez, who has hundreds of millions of followers,

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Speaker 2: Some people have to leave it. It's so toxic. It's hurtful.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Back in the days of the hate bloggers, people really

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Speaker 1: Now everyone is a hate blogger.

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Speaker 2: It's not for the faint of heart, and you have

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Speaker 2: to be built for it, which I am. I think

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Speaker 2: I think that other people, like let's say, Jennifer Lopez,

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Speaker 1: Like it takes a certain type.

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Speaker 2: I would say for most people it does hurt on

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Speaker 2: Not I'm going to fit into that category. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: like a Dave Portnoy, like a Mark Cuban doesn't mind

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Speaker 2: slapping someone. Kevin O'Leary, I would say, honestly, I don't

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Speaker 2: know many women that can withstand it. I genuinely don't.

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Speaker 2: Because some pretend they can, but I don't know that

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Speaker 2: many women that can withstand it. So for me, I

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Speaker 2: know when you are talked about so much and hated

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Speaker 2: just really don't want to be.

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Speaker 1: In the middle.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not one who wants to be in the middle.

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Speaker 2: I don't like warm oatmeal. I don't like toasts that's

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Speaker 2: ice cubes like I like fucking strong flavored cheese's opinions.

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Speaker 2: in the milk chocolate gray areas. So I say this

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Speaker 2: because I remember back when reality stars were just coming up.

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Speaker 2: And I remember when quote unquote real social lights were

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Speaker 2: enraged that people like myself or Jill Zarn or the

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Speaker 2: Countess were being called social lightes because for the broad

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Speaker 2: We had nice clothes, bags, we ran with a fabulous

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Speaker 2: Like to think about the Vanderbilts and the blue bloods

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Speaker 2: And they used to grace the covers of W magazine

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Speaker 2: really no one heard it. So it would enrage them

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Speaker 2: had to lean into it. So now you're seeing real

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Speaker 2: muted tones and vintage watches being on social media.

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Speaker 1: So if you can't beat them, join them.

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Speaker 2: It used to have actresses crazy when reality stars were

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Speaker 2: I knew one very high paid actress used to poop

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Speaker 2: poo it, hate it And guess what we fucking came

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Speaker 2: in like a wrecking ball. Okay, Kim Kardashian myself, certain

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Speaker 2: You cannot turn back the page. Okay, we took the

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Speaker 2: Then the met Gala dared to have reality stars on.

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Speaker 2: But then, oh my god, social media stars. Because reality

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Speaker 2: television is now archaic. Reality television is now what mainstream

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Speaker 2: So it drives people crazy. And the train has left

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Speaker 2: So the same thing goes with the design and design magazines.

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Speaker 2: So if we left design magazines to only cover e

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Speaker 2: like the Charlie Dmilios and will have the Alex Earls

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Speaker 2: because money and places like Architectural Digest the Bible of

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Speaker 2: Design has to have someone like me in there because

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Speaker 2: why money? Because clicks, Because I fucking rate and I

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Speaker 2: I know all the people. I could buy a plane

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Speaker 2: enough money to design it. But I don't want to

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Speaker 2: because I'm not a pretentious asshole who judges other people

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Speaker 2: only head to Tocatur and Chanel and go in every

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Speaker 2: day and buy multiple boxes for Christmas. But instead I

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Speaker 2: am wearing right now a Ritzia pants, an H and

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Speaker 2: M tank top, and as a Degan Voltaire cardigan with

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Speaker 2: for days that just stare at each other wondering when

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Speaker 2: is this crazy bit you gonna take us out to play?

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Speaker 2: So I love the haters because the haters make me

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Speaker 2: realize that I'm doing something right. And the haters are

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Speaker 2: cheers to the haters, hate on and when all of

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Speaker 2: more than the assholes living on Fifth Avenue want to

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Speaker 2: in the home goods wayfair design aesthetic that is literally

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Speaker 2: for a one hundred percent profit in three years, when

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Speaker 2: my daughter goes to college. Let them all eat cake,

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Speaker 2: let them all buy my same coffee table, because I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna act like I'm so much more fabulous. In fact,

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Speaker 2: If you have a truck pull up, I will give

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Speaker 2: I'm raising my daughter.

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Speaker 1: Not to care.

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Speaker 2: I want her not to care. I want her to

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Speaker 2: love special things if they mean something to her. I

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Speaker 2: her to like the affordable and online and once in

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Speaker 2: has meaning but not because we're walking down Fifth Avenue,

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Speaker 2: and because her friends have made her feel in secure

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Speaker 2: are welcome. I am exhausted, I am dehydrated. I'm disgusting.

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Speaker 2: I am not self loathing. But I have had a

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Speaker 2: six month run of such work overload and exhaustion that

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Speaker 2: I need a break. And you need to self regulate,

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Speaker 2: and you need to self care, and you need to

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Speaker 2: told everyone around me that I need to protect my piece.

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Speaker 2: I'm not good at this. I get hooked in. I

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Speaker 2: And then it's hours later and I'm still on that hook.

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Speaker 2: I have to deactivate, and I have to do it.

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Speaker 2: I have to take some time for myself. That phone

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Speaker 2: for us. And I need to hydrate, and I need

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Speaker 2: I need to sleep, and I need to not complain.

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Speaker 2: So I need to go another thing. I have done

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Speaker 2: like two hundred gifts, and I won't say it's with ease,

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Speaker 2: because it's it's a gift. My giving gifts is a

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Speaker 2: gift getting through the whole list. Everyone gets something. Everybody

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Speaker 2: gets a metal. It may not be that everybody it's

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Speaker 2: They want, they need, they love, they appreciate. They know

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Speaker 2: required thought. But I'm good at it and I'm not

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Speaker 2: good at rapping, not at all. I could have a

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Speaker 2: It just sank two in front Bethany. I just I

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Speaker 2: don't ever cross the finish line. I always do one

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Speaker 2: thing that's shoddy, So just know that. But I can't

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Speaker 2: get my fucking Tristrams tree going. My Christmas tree is up,

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Speaker 2: it is lit, it has ornaments on that someone had

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Speaker 2: Brennan and I don't allow any of the personal ornaments

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Speaker 2: to be touched by anyone but us, because we love them.

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Speaker 2: The first step is putting them next to the tree.

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Speaker 2: One box should be next to the tree that's going up.

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Speaker 2: Because I can't break the seal. I can't. The box

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Speaker 2: came down from the shelf, the gorgeous organized ornament box,

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Speaker 2: but I can't get it. The garage is next to

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Speaker 2: the tree. I just can't get it from the garage

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Speaker 2: to the tree. But now and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: see it in front of the tree because it'll overwhelm me.

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Speaker 2: But I think if we now see it in front

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Speaker 2: of the tree, that'll make us do it. It's getting

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Speaker 2: to be time. Today my daughter and I took us

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Speaker 2: stay at home day. We woke up. I've been aching exhausted,

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Speaker 2: I've been run down.

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Speaker 1: She woke up.

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Speaker 2: It's the end of the year. She just will say

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Speaker 2: to go to school? And whenever she says that, I

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Speaker 2: say yes, which is why she doesn't do it that

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Speaker 2: often because she's self governed. She self regulates, she self studies,

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Speaker 2: She leads by example and also follows mine. And once

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Speaker 2: watching Christmas movies, putting ornaments on. Just take a fucking day,

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Speaker 2: If my daughter wakes up it doesn't feel well, she's

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Speaker 2: So we all took a sick day, myself, the doggos

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Speaker 2: think of Alex Cooper and why she's successful and has

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Speaker 2: a successful podcast. Pura Vida is a popular bougie healthy

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Speaker 2: basically their overall nutella latte lifestyle. As Ie overnight o

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Speaker 2: to many people means low fat, low calorie. Will I

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Speaker 1: Okay. So Pura Vita is fun, it's great. I like it.

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Speaker 1: It's fresh, it's cute, it's bougie.

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Speaker 2: But I have known for a long time that an

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Speaker 2: assai ebol is like eating a cheeseburger and French fries

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Speaker 2: have five hundred calories, that a vegan ice cream has

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Speaker 2: more calories than normal carvel in most cases that avocado

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Speaker 2: Everyone's gone insane. A whole wheat bagel is basically a

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Speaker 2: adding no nutritional value. Be smart, don't be an idiot.

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Speaker 2: Pick your spots, choose health first, choose fewer ingredients, choose

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Speaker 2: because it's absolutely, categorically, emphatically not. Hayley Bieber, Justin Bieber,

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Speaker 2: mean it's going to make you thin. In fact, it

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Speaker 2: If you go to Starbucks and it says a low

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Speaker 2: fat muffin, trust and believe you could go to Dunkin

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Speaker 2: It just means it's got some function that appeals to

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Speaker 2: some person. Literally, oatly frozen yogurt has more calories than carvel.

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Speaker 1: What. Yeah, it's just non dairy.

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Speaker 2: It's oat milk, oat milk, Macadamian milk, pistachio milk, all

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Speaker 2: It's a manufactured nut product that is not pure nuts.

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Speaker 2: It's a bunch of other ingredients in a box. And

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Speaker 2: why I bring this up this massive rant, was because

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Speaker 2: the Pura vita tuna sandwich has more fat grams than

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Speaker 2: the Big Mac and it was something like one hundred and.

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Speaker 1: Sixty seven factrams.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: seven factors. I don't know that a giant piece of

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Speaker 1: I genuinely do not think so.

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Speaker 2: butter has as many fat rams as a tuna sandwich

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Speaker 2: at Pure Vita. So go there because you think it's cute,

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Speaker 2: you think it's bougie, you think it tastes good, you

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Speaker 2: think it's somewhat healthier than something else. Do not go

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Speaker 2: there because you want to lose weight, because you will

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Speaker 2: absolutely shit the bed on that one.

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Speaker 1: It's fake news.

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Speaker 2: Get yourself a small regular cheeseburger for probably two hundred

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Speaker 2: and something calories at McDonald's. It is not healthy, but

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Speaker 2: you're not eating it every single day either.

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Speaker 1: And I don't go to.

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Speaker 2: McDonald's, but I would sooner eat a McDonald's small cheeseburger

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Speaker 2: than some like two hundred gramma fat laid and tuna sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Want to do the answer?

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Speaker 1: Want to do to the conser