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Speaker 1: to it. That it's been a minute since I just

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Speaker 1: from that interview. After he passed. We had never done

430
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: the clips before passed. Next hour one hour probably it

431
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: was nasty, Adam like like, like, what is the nasty

432
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: part about yourself? With a capitalizer? I want the people

433
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: who are sad about his passing to have the content

434
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: that they want to see and turn off. Then turn

435
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: off monetization. If you turn off monetization, you're gonna stop

436
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: it from spreading on the platform. Every YouTube are out

437
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 1: there and knows I'm telling the truth. Is that why

438
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: you did that? Stop ten thousand dollars off of ad

439
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: Sense When I interviewed you did I interview you for money. Now,

440
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: I'm not ten thousand dollars very nice, but I'm not.

441
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 1: It's different. It's an interesting conversation. He made ten thousand

442
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: off that interview. That's not a lot of money for

443
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: Joe Budden interview with a million subscribers. But that's another conversation.

444
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: Let's get into what they're speaking about. As you hit

445
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: Joe Budden say he's gonna upload this part so we

446
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: all monetize off using clicks. We gotta be honest at

447
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: some point and say that the repurposes of content, in

448
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: my opinion, is still something that I view a certain

449
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: kind of way because it still feels disrespectful to me.

450
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: Although I see a lot of platforms doing it, I

451
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: oftentimes speak on it and say, yo, right, if you're

452
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna do it, send that money to the family, whatever

453
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: proceeds you make, send a screenshot receipt of what you made,

454
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: and sending that to the family, because in the event,

455
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: this is the last time I get something off my

456
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: chest or I'm able to get money, especially if someone

457
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: like Kevin Samuel's dies when he's fifty seven years old.

458
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he had any kids or not.

459
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: But usually whoever you leave that too isn't gonna have

460
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: access and authorization in a way where you were even

461
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: able to monetize the same way. So let's say that's

462
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: the last hurrah and the last chance for this individual

463
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: to make money off what he did all his life.

464
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: And that's all these kids got left is these last

465
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: little few, last thirty days of searches. They got to

466
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get something up and try

467
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: to make something of that for his whole legacy, and

468
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: he will boom undercut, boom undercut, boom undercut. Why I

469
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: want him to celebrate. So if you want to celebrate,

470
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: send them money to the families. I think that'll be

471
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: a reasonable adjustment to the to the problem that we'll

472
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: have him. Or let's listen to someone, how does the

473
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: death change that big because you because he had he

474
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: not passed, you wouldn't uploaded that like that. Had there

475
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: not been a giant swell of interest in this guy

476
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: because he passed, then I wouldn't have put it. But

477
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: he just answered your question of those clips either way, yes,

478
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: but the interest, the fact that the audience wants to

479
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: see it is the reason I upload it. No searching

480
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: his name, and it's like, you know what, if they're

481
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: gonna search his name, let me attach to that. That's

482
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily going to look for the fact that they're

483
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: treating his name. His name is treating, and let me

484
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: attach to it. Do it. His name is trending, let

485
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: me attach to it. Yes, that's why say, when someone dies,

486
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: do we act like people only make content to make money?

487
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: To me, if you are from a different race and

488
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: you're operating inside of culture, I think it's a very

489
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: sensitive atmosphere you have to operate around. I don't think

490
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: you can be just negligent with your approach to it,

491
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 1: because there are things that you understand. When you become

492
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: negligent with it, or you look at it like you

493
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: you're a part of it in a way where you

494
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: can't offend it, I think you make a mistake. As

495
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: Adam sat there, he played a couple of mind tricks

496
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: with Joe. He wouldn't submit to Joe. You know it's

497
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: Joe would prop itself up. Sometimes he wouldn't. He wouldn't

498
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: submit to it. Yeah, you know, I tried to hire you.

499
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to do it. I just

500
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 1: want to focus on my own thing, and yo, I'm

501
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: number one. Oh you always want to be number one?

502
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: I like Noray better hire. And if they were paying attention,

503
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: that's what you point out from him, You point that out. Oh,

504
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: this is what you do in interviews. You see how

505
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: you so natural? Just do that. If I say this,

506
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: you say that. If I say that, you say this?

507
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: How you just create a conflict there. This is what

508
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But at that time, I don't think

509
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: Jodan was paying attention. He was defending himself, and he

510
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: tricked him into defending himself. So he tricked Joe on

511
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: the back foot to defending himself, Like, you're hard to

512
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: work with, dad, Now I'll put you on defense. Then

513
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: your guys are kind of cooperating with me on that.

514
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: Now I place you in this very specific place that

515
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: you can climb out of. In this conversation, I'm telling y'all,

516
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: this is more than just talking. This is more than

517
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: just talking. This is mental jiu jitsu that's going on.

518
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: But he also tricked Joe buddon podcast into a conversation

519
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: about the audience. This is a trick. This isn't a

520
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: real thing. I'm a cater to my audience. I'm a

521
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: cater to my audience. Like, there's not bad people in

522
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: the world. The KKK has a not in right, there's

523
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: an audience for a lot of different things. Right, that's

524
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: categories of pawn that we wish were non existence, but

525
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: as an audience for it. So anytime you let them

526
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: trick you into an audience conversation, that's a mistake. And

527
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: I've seen they let them trick They let him trick

528
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: them into this weird audience conversation, Like, man, the audience

529
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: really wanted it, But here's the trick. Oftentimes our audience

530
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: looked like us. So this is why we question certain

531
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: people that had certain type of audiences, because if your

532
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: audience that you're garnering is providing you that kind of

533
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: information back and that kind of feedback loop, then who

534
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: are you that they're comfortable enough to be that disrespectful

535
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: in your presence. Just like radical extremists they would like

536
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: to speak away about black people, like to dude that

537
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: ran in Buffalo, that ran into that store, they would

538
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: like to speak about us in a way because of

539
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: the conditions that they have to deal within his and

540
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: then we're taking over the race or some kind of

541
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: weird transition is happening that he's uncomfortable with. So there's

542
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: an audience of people that you can speak to with

543
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: that mindset. What does that say about you that that's

544
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: who you're speaking to. But we're not even having an

545
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: audience conversation with each other. Once we make that understood, that, Yo,

546
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: it's an audience for everything, even when you deal with

547
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: pornography and things like that. There's clearly things that should

548
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: not have an audience that has an audience. So let's

549
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: not shift the blame. But they kept allowing them to

550
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: do that. Let's pay attention to a little more. It's

551
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: not true. I want to entertain the audience content. You

552
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: have the content already, right, That's why. That's why Differently

553
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: got around to uploading it and then he passed. I'm like,

554
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: we got up of it, of course, and that's what. Yeah,

555
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: that is what we're saying. I don't think it's sinister.

556
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't see what's wrong with it. How do you not?

557
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how get it between sinister and uh,

558
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: something between there's something between sinister and that's fair that exists.

559
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: There's being a capitalist, which is obviously a factor. Sure,

560
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna make money off that was sinister. You think

561
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: it's evil to make people watch more YouTube content? I

562
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: think I think it is. I'm only giving asking again.

563
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: Watch how his people are going against it. You have

564
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: to be strong to operate in this environment when you're

565
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: trying to make a direct point to someone and your

566
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: people are even kind of going against you, and they're

567
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: not doing it because they don't like them. They just

568
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: feel different than him. They have to understand their own set.

569
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: On the podcast, you probably let him cook. Everybody let

570
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: each other cook, going some nasty side of the business,

571
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: which is where it's only about metrics and monetization, and

572
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: your moral compass is totally eliminated from this. That's what

573
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: makes this nasty to me. No, I'm not ready. I'm

574
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 1: not ready, It's said to me. Damn yo, when this

575
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: important person dies, these are the figureheads. When pop Smoke died,

576
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: was the radio stations. I have no idea they played.

577
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't make it. I don't listen to the radio

578
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: he died. We gotta celebrate the smother. We gotta listen

579
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: to the music that we all love, that he made

580
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: while he was alive. Playing his music is a celebration

581
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: of his life. Kevin Samuel, tell you wanted us celebration

582
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: of who this man was? Different Smokes can't see that.

583
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: I can answer you. I can answer you, pop Smoke.

584
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: His music was already in always play, is already in

585
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: rotation in a back yard somewhere somebody up. We just

586
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: cut some clips from the interview. It's the same as

587
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: us playing as record on the radio. Kevin Samuel's already

588
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: the thing was his personality. The interview itself was up.

589
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: We cut like I don't know however many made five us.

590
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: We've done that. We have many clips. It's your company.

591
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: You like to fall back in that find a way

592
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: to get a definite number. It wasn't and it wasn't, Jumper.

593
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: Let's see what what. I didn't know that it wasn't three,

594
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: and it wasn't it wasn't three. Little distasteful to me,

595
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: but it's unasked, no no, no answer. In his defense,

596
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he already aired his interview part

597
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: of this, all right, So even little things like that,

598
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: even though that's cool, he's not mad at that, But

599
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: I need you to understand what they does for the

600
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: environment of Joe as he needs to really cook up

601
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: a point because right now with him making these couple

602
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: of little points, and when I look at it, I say,

603
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: all right, they might be in a deficit a little bit.

604
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: They letting them kind of make points that you can't

605
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: really argue with, at least they can't. Three clips that

606
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: all did a couple hundred thousand views at least each

607
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: because people in that moment wanted to talk about Kevin

608
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: Samuels and wanted to, you know, cherish what he was

609
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: to the community, roll out he was out. We found

610
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: three for the record, three right there. You can see

611
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: all of them right there. Kevin Samuels on interrac Your

612
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: relationships right there tell me that you are lacking the

613
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: humanness to where you don't see what I'm saying. Kevin

614
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: Samuels dedicated his life to spreading his message. You don't

615
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: know why it stopped. That's more bullsh You always challenge

616
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: things that are so evident that his whole career was

617
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: sitting on stream and making these videos and spreading his

618
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: message to people. How could I possibly be faulted for

619
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: spreading his message further after he passed, knowing that this

620
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: is the time where people are really gonna want to

621
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: consume this information. Arrogance of you. You have known of

622
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Samuels for how many years? Let's say you can't.

623
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: You can't somebody? Who the fuck are you to know

624
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: somebody for two years and think that you could say

625
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: what their whold life was dedicated to? That's self evidence.

626
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with further spreading his

627
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: words after he passed at all. I actually think it's

628
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: more important. I didn't know that the interview had already

629
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: been released. That changes things from my opinion. However, now,

630
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: in seeing how you guys worded the clips, this is

631
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: quick baity. You think it's more important to spread his message,

632
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: which is cool. But I'm talking about the profits from it.

633
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: And I hope that we're all adults and we can

634
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: converse about two different things at the same time. Always

635
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: speak to the results of things, right. I don't really

636
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: give a about what your intentions are, right, because there's

637
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: something that happens when you put that interview up, and

638
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: it's called you make some money. So when you make

639
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: some money from it, my thing is all of y'all

640
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: me involved. If anybody, let's make this clip right now,

641
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: if anybody comes on this up there podcast and they

642
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: pass the next months, all of that money goes to

643
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: his family. You know what I'm saying, That's what we do, right.

644
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: We don't want to even if it's four thousand and

645
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: eight thousand, ten, one hundred thousand, two hundred million, he

646
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: go to his family. If it's fourteen hundred, he go

647
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: to his family because he don't have the ability to

648
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: operate in the marketing and more and even profit. Now

649
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: you got people that create other channels where they're going

650
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: to chop up his stuff and he's not here to

651
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: enforced those copyrights like he used to. If you know

652
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: anything about Samuel's, he would have a team where, man,

653
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: you put this stuff up here, get that down. He

654
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: wanted to centralize his audience because he knew I needed

655
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: to transition this audience and converted in a way that's

656
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: gonna help my family. It ain't like he on a

657
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: network where it's something in place where they can speak

658
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: to what's been made and allocate that to a family.

659
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: Now you could just down play it, Oh, I really

660
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: didn't make but four thousand dollars off that whatever. You

661
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: may send that to the family. That's me speaking thousand

662
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: percent clickbaity when I hear clickbait, I hear good titling,

663
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: like titling video. Some people will actually watch a true now.

664
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Speaker 1: But you are playing on the fact that he was

665
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Speaker 1: as the disdain for him might have been bigger than

666
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: the positive popularity for him. Would you agree eighty percent

667
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Speaker 1: love and twenty percent hey no result, no one never,

668
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: not even not even not even closer. But you know

669
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: what he could say that, being coming from a white male,

670
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: I was really kind of tuned out to the I'm

671
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: probably true. He's coming from a white males perspective, so

672
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: he can potentially say that I know almost nobody who

673
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: doesn't like the guy. You know everybody I know. Exact opposite.

674
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: It's the exact opposite. Like you say you like required

675
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: to you say his name, and it was like time out. No,

676
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: and you did an interview with him a year ago.

677
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: When you put your comment, your your your interview with

678
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: him out a year ago, you read the comments. But no, yeah,

679
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: of course he had some hate comments, a ton of them.

680
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: He had. He had to come on most people, thought,

681
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: I would say, most people come on. You guys know

682
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: about Andrew T just died. I know what he said,

683
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: but he just died. Now, who the you to come

684
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: and highlight the controversial things that this man said because

685
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: you are familiar with him for two years. That's controversial. Yes,

686
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: and what is the I thought it was a good title.

687
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm about to give him some passes. I ain't. I

688
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: want to put the whole thing. Ain't the only person

689
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you've really like convinced me

690
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: at all that I did anything wrong. I wasn't trying

691
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: to convince you. I'm not trying to convince you. But no,

692
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: if you're sitting here saying that you're saying Kevin Samuels,

693
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: he's saying he's trying to give them passes. There's a

694
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: disagreement amongst them too. I don't know which in real

695
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: life is cool with. But for the sake of this conversation,

696
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: let's get him in a place where we can have

697
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: a conversation from him defending one single place you've seen

698
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: in excess, not just see a good amount of it,

699
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: but not like which means. And you had an interview

700
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: with him a year ago, I'm sure it was tons

701
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: and tons and tons of hate. No I got no blowback,

702
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: not for you. No, weal messaging and not not necessarily

703
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: blow back quick on the comments. Underestimated, They're still formidable,

704
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: no jumper audience that does not get offended by anything

705
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: because they're all real, real men who are not scared

706
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: of the truth. No, he might be right, and so

707
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying from from a demographic standpoint black women,

708
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: he's triggering him into an audience conversation and he's being condescending.

709
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: If y'all don't see that. Number One, you're dealing with

710
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: Adam twenty two, which is someone that probably talks eight

711
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: hours a day, four days a week, so he's not

712
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with being in these back and forth. You have

713
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: to have a technique with these kind of individuals. They

714
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: talk all day so they can slither in and out.

715
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: And Joe, because he has two co hosts, isn't in

716
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: a position to be able to all right, you said that,

717
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: who you just said such and such, because now not

718
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: only is he having a conversation with him, is just

719
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: kind of you don't really know where he stands on it. Right,

720
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: So now it's me speaking to Adam about something I'm

721
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: kind of strong about, right, and it's ish involved in

722
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: a way. Well, now, I don't think that's wrong. Well, no,

723
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: that's definitely wrong. That it's right, So it's it's not

724
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: that it's wrong, but it just inserts a different dynamic

725
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: into that conversation. And I think with Rory and Mall

726
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: at that time, in that moment, they laid back and

727
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: let Joe kind of cook up, and then Rory step

728
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: in with a little something. Mall really probably be doing

729
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 1: what Ice is doing. But there's this there's this thing

730
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: that Ish provised to the part, which is very very

731
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: effective when they get into those spots where he's good

732
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: at where he kind of understands what he's speaking about.

733
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: But in these discovery kind of moods, it really ain't

734
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: time for discovery. But seeh is the kind of person

735
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: that can on the fly learn something like that, or

736
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: on the fly learn some information She didn't kind of

737
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: try to craft out of argument. I just think in

738
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: this moment, you isolate, Let Joe get one on one

739
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: with Adam for a second and see what he can

740
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: come up with. And we're rejoicing when he died. Look

741
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: at these comments. These are all positive comments. These are

742
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: all people who are really feeling the message that he

743
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: had after he passed. Yes, and these are people who

744
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: who went to the video and we're able to spend

745
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: time relishing. I'll give you an example. I was just

746
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: on my uncle's funeral. He died. It's like eighty something.

747
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: They're plumbed by the audience again life. You know different

748
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: things that he had been involved with. Oh is that

749
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: any different than me re uploading the clips after he

750
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: passed so that everybody who is using the algorithm and

751
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: searching for new clips can now re remember his message.

752
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Because the omens should be about the man that passed.

753
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: The monetization you're making money, I would say, ding ding

754
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: ding about these people that start to declas this guy

755
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: like it's tasteless and I can't I can't teach you

756
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: taste or you don't know that messages that he's brought for.

757
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: I think you're in denial about what you do for

758
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: a living. You make content your servant to people. Give

759
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: me one example of Joe Budden doing something where his

760
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: moral compass wasn't in the content space. See, I'm not

761
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: like y'all. Y'all do that, y'all mined y'all, y'all are

762
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: like little monetization roaches. I don't think I did anything

763
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: wrong I think we're clearing that. We're clearing that right.

764
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: I gotta shoot him some ish stop because that exists.

765
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: In what I'm saying, Adam twenty two has become a

766
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: multimillionaire off of black culture. It is his responsibility to

767
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: be more in touchable. I interview a lot of people

768
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: from a lot of different racis. I know, but it's

769
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: black culture that has made you a multi millionaire. I

770
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: don't give a about the bikes. It's black culture that

771
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: has made you a multimillion You are an agreement with that.

772
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: He could arguabi Wait, I wasn't figure my point. I'm

773
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I felt the way when he pushed

774
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: back on the black thing, and I see what he

775
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: conceded to it. Again, he's in that environment. He has

776
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: not submitted the one thing Joe Budding said. He won't

777
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: submit to Joe Budden being the superior in the place,

778
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: in the space and all of that. He won't do it.

779
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: But I think it's unfortunate or it's damned. They're disrespectful

780
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: for him not to acknowledge that black people made that

781
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: what it is over there. He's surrounded black gang bangers

782
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: right now. Dudes, that's really from hoods and things like that.

783
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: He interviews everything that's heavy on the channel surrounded by

784
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: this culture, right people. That's I keep telling y'all, like

785
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: I can go that route. I understand the business model.

786
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: You don't operate where you interview meet Meal. You're an

787
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: interviewer that grew up with Meet Meal that wrapped it.

788
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: Ain't saw Meek Mill in eight years, but he might

789
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: got some stories because he do live in the same

790
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: sitting and things like that. So what will happen is

791
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: you put that on your channel. Now your audiences start

792
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: to grow because say what you will about Adam, he

793
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: is someone that has a pretty good interview. He's not

794
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: as boring as I've seen in this space. You know,

795
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: I'll say that one. He is not as boring as

796
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: I have seen in this space, and um he does.

797
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: He does somewhat of a great a good job when

798
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: he sits in front of those people. I applaud more

799
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: so the business acumen of turning that one podcast into

800
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: what you see now with all these different personalities. I

801
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: think that provides us a level of information that comes

802
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: from his count that we need to pay attention to.

803
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: Because of that, it's almost your responsibility at his truth

804
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: to be somewhat in tune with what should and shouldn't

805
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: happen when prominent figures pass. If I die, I will

806
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: not upload and I will not chop up our I

807
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't I believe it wouldn't matter what you want to

808
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: take the timestamps from this interview and you find the

809
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: four or five most interesting things that I said that

810
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: our representative of what message I was put out here.

811
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: I cut those clips. I would think that you were

812
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: doing a service to my family, my fans, and the

813
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: people who supported my brand by taking the things that

814
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: I said and moniting them on blast, the same way

815
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: that a radio patient playing pop Smoke records after he

816
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: dies is them celebrating the life of pop Smove. They're not.

817
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: Nobody would say, oh, the radio was just trying to

818
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: mona You think you think them headlines you put up

819
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: about Kevin Samuels is you because it's spreading his message

820
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: whatever he had to say to the world, what he

821
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: chose to say in his No Jumper interview. Gets this

822
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: while he was alive. He gets this is the stuff

823
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: that we were highlighting. You can't play stupid. You understand

824
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: the YouTube game the monetization game. Then you have a staff.

825
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: The time to be serving is not at the time

826
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: of somebody's bad I think it was much more serving

827
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: to the audience and his fans than it was to me,

828
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: even though yes, we made some money. But we have

829
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: a staff who has to cut these clips we have

830
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: we have you know, there's a reason why you make

831
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: my but they they didn't have to do that thought.

832
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: I thought it was important to spread his message after

833
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: he passed the same way, I thought it was important

834
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: to put his message on blast while he was a lot.

835
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: How many other people that passed have you done this

836
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: with plenty? Why is that part of your business model?

837
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: Because I think it's the right thing to do. I

838
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything wrong with it, and I actually

839
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: think that it benefits the audience. Why do you keep

840
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: talking about because that's when we make content. Who's it

841
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: benefit more? So? At no point do you do you

842
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: take a gut call and make a decision as the

843
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: head of a company, like why do you telling me

844
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: about the audience who means nothing? They don't mean nothing,

845
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: they don't mean everything. I know, I know, I time

846
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: this doesn't exist. I know, I know I'm saved, save

847
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: it saved, But they mean something. I agree with him,

848
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: but they don't mean nothing at the top of the

849
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: board making their decisions for the company, know they not

850
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: just that that's on you and the people that make

851
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: them decisions. And I'm saying, is your pulses on the culture,

852
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: your post is on hip hop, your postes on black culture,

853
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: then you know that when this man passed away, there

854
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: was a storm of anti n Kevin Samuel's rhetoric a ton.

855
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: So now when I post none, and when I post

856
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: these things about him with into racial dating, all of

857
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: this other stuff, then you know what's gonna be something.

858
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Kevin didn't give a fuck about the hate he was getting,

859
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: the same way I didn't give a fuck about the

860
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: hate that I'm getting for uploading this clips. People got

861
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: on my a little bit for interviewing them. I guess

862
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't care. But you're not addressing you're not addressing

863
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: the timeliness of your clips using Kevin Samuels his name,

864
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: image and likeness with really no regard, care, consideration, or love.

865
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: How you do so as long as you're monetizing, I

866
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: think I did all those things. I think those clips

867
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: represent him well, you look at these comments. This was

868
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: my favorite Kevin Samuel's interview. I came back to watch

869
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: it in memoriam r ip Godfather exactly. That's why I

870
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: uploaded it, and that's why I said, if there's a disconnect,

871
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: look at that comment. With six thousand likes. Kevin is

872
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: blowing up because the problem is recognized by all men,

873
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: regardless of note. They just they just don't know what

874
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: he's doing. That's why he keep taking it to fans,

875
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: and I keep taking it to him. You see. The

876
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: thing is they keep letting him tricked them into an

877
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: audience conversation. Joe is peeping it, but he's not laying

878
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: the hammer down. Yo. Bro, There's people that are buy

879
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: fake wine for one hundred thousand dollars a ball. If

880
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: I just put this certain rapping on it, you know,

881
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: they may not have the information to understand that, hey,

882
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: it's money being made off this, and hey, his family

883
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: ain't gonna never eat off his YouTube channel on how

884
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: to get in the ass Sense and he got a verify.

885
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: They can't a matter of fact that whether Assens is

886
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: sending the money automatically, they can't get in the banking account.

887
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: They may be having trouble lightweight understanding the next move.

888
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: For the next five years, he hated all drawn out

889
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: here his white boy come in, keep upload and cliffs again.

890
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in between the business and what I know

891
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: I want to happen and what I know that will happened.

892
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: It was you and Vlad. So what do you think

893
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: about that? Y'all too? In black culture, dreating black people

894
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: like that. I think Vlad was the first person that

895
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: I saw doing, and I think that my gut reaction

896
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: at first was like, Oh, that's kind of nasty, it's

897
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of cringe, And then as I thought about it,

898
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I landed it with a perspective more like what I

899
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: have now, which is that I think it's important to

900
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: when when you post a clip, you're spreading that person's message.

901
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: My thing is, though, I'll ask Adam twenty two this.

902
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: If you felt that way when Vlad first did, and

903
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: then you talked for a living, why was there no

904
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: clips or no addressing of how you felt about that situation?

905
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: You address everything else, right, That's number one. Number two.

906
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: A lot of times in this industry they wait for

907
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: somebody to throw a rock. They throw a rock, and

908
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: everybody a little. Ain't nobody to do nothing? Hey, y'all,

909
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: let's go that way. It's some more money over. But

910
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: somebody got to be the first to throw the rock,

911
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's why when my confusion lies, who

912
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: was the first to do that? Because in my research,

913
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't see Vlad as being the first. Unfortunately for

914
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: people who may think that, and I may be wrong,

915
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: someone give me the details. Oh good, you just up though.

916
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: You said when Vlad did it, your immediate gut reaction

917
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: was cringey and it's in bad taste. Why would you

918
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: think that because I hadn't thought better than enough? Why

919
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: would your immediate gut reaction be Yo, this is in

920
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: bad taste and it's cringe. I think Vlad was the

921
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: first one through the wall on a lot of things,

922
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: and that he was the one who figured out this

923
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: made sense very very early on. What something I had

924
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: never seen done. At first, I thought, oh, I've never

925
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: seen someone just immediately upload a person's content after they passed.

926
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: Then whe why do you think? Why did your gut

927
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: reaction think that it wasn't a proper thing to do?

928
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: Because it's not, because oh, that makes a lot of sense.

929
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: The TV networks do the same exact thing. If if

930
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: if something say MTV was still what it is right now,

931
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 1: and and and god bus you know, pop smake passes,

932
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do. They're gonna be playing hour

933
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: long blocks of pop small music videos because that's what

934
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: people want to see about business does a ton of

935
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: a given the culture opportunity to reject the notion of

936
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 1: what's being said about the radio comparison in regards to

937
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: rappers dying, have yet to see an argument place for

938
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: that sustains any kind of validity in the space. I'll

939
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: lay one out now. In my opinion, the reason the

940
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: radio thing doesn't hold up is number one, the music

941
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: of that they does not directly affect the add money

942
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: that's being brought in. You can even argue from a

943
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: radio perspective the opposite that, now you're dealing with a

944
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: large range of body. This audience may not want to

945
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: hear right Peter pop smoke. They may not want to

946
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: hear that all day, so you have people tune it out. Yeah,

947
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: it's a niche of people that they want to hear that.

948
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: That's a big story. But when you deal with people

949
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: head at the word getting off work, on their lunch

950
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: building houses listening to the They may not be right,

951
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: So you can argue both sides of that. That's just

952
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: a couple of different points. Also, if you let these

953
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: people just talking, no one with information is speaking back,

954
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: then we get lost in not understanding what's being said.

955
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I'll try to provide some kind of understandings. So when

956
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: we're dealing with radio or with dealing with music videos,

957
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: if we say that's the same thing as someone like

958
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: a no jumper or lad uploading the video more interview,

959
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: then we will be doing a disservice as to what

960
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: kind of structure the music business has in place. I

961
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: have the same argument when I deal with some of

962
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: these rappers that go on these interviews and try to

963
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: blow themselves up by tying themselves to real life events,

964
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: trying to make themselves larging in life, to appear strong

965
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: and tough to get record sales right. They do that

966
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: as well, But when you deal with music and videos

967
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: and MTV and radio and BT, there's a structure in

968
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: place in which there's some sort of trickle down effect

969
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: when you deal with that. So spend all your day

970
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: playing that music if you want too. Syndicated and do

971
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: that for some months. There's some kind of trickle down

972
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: effect that goes to the family that is not present

973
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: in this space. That's why my proposal is to dedicate

974
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: all funds to the family. And the same thing is

975
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: present in radio. And so while they're letting him say, well,

976
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: if pop Smoke died, they're all running stuff on radio

977
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: all day. Yeah, and there's a trickle down effect that happens.

978
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: Then you can argue based on this contract that it

979
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: may go to the e go to someone other than

980
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,479
Speaker 1: that radio station, right, and even if they get a cut,

981
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: there's a trickle down effect that's not present when you're

982
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: dealing with these YouTubers and these people that's running these

983
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: side businesses that's now seven eight figure year businesses. But

984
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: they are not present in the moral category. They don't

985
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: really understand that. So they can find these clever ways

986
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: to say things like that, Yo, the radio do the

987
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: same thing. What's the difference or the difference is in

988
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: the business. There's a structure music he yo that there's

989
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: a frainger print attached to all these songs that if

990
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: this is played on the radio all day number one,

991
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: you can argue that people will tune out after so long.

992
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: If we are going based on ads that you can

993
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: argue that they can hurt the situation. And number two,

994
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: there's a trickle down effect. It's president okay. And this

995
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: was something that caused us to do quite a bit

996
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: of self reflection amongst me and the news team. Basically

997
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: all right, so this is a part where Joe was

998
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: talking about his interaction with aut him. Again, I think

999
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: Joe knows that people view him a certain way in

1000
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: this space, but I'm not sure if they respect him

1001
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: in the way that they view him. There's a weird

1002
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: energy around him, right, especially dealing with people like ac

1003
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: Adam Vlad, these guys that was there first. Again, I

1004
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: look at Adam and some of these guys and I

1005
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't even say Adam because he is a little more entertaining,

1006
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: or some of these guys were just here first. And

1007
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: so there are a few different types of people in

1008
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: this industry. Some people are placed in position by the people,

1009
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: and then you got people that did it first. So

1010
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: they're dealing with their audience because of familiarity. Right, They're

1011
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: just someone they just were here first, and people know,

1012
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: oh yeah, listen to such and such. I don't know

1013
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: who that is, right, So that's why they're kind of

1014
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: still in that space. Now. I wouldn't say that about

1015
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: Adam in totality. I think he danced somewhere in between

1016
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: right where he was kind of the first duo. But

1017
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: he does add some value to the market. But they're

1018
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: talking about when Joe had a situation where he was

1019
00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: in the news about some domestic violence accusations. No Jumper

1020
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: posted it. Behind the scenes, this happens, people reach out

1021
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: to t J man, why are you posting that, brother?

1022
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: Take it down? I don't want to man, take it down.

1023
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: She ain't saying she lying, you know now, No Jumper

1024
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: posted this Joe button and his mind reached out. No Jumper,

1025
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: but in his mind he's saying, like, I mean you

1026
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: to head all kind of stuff going on, and I

1027
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: ain't posting none of it, talk about none of it.

1028
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: You know, as I sit there and talk about some

1029
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: of the prominent black people, I let you a slide

1030
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: because we got a relationship, man. And then it's how

1031
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: y'all doors pay attention. Somebody on the news team had

1032
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: posted something about one of Joe's exes who had sort

1033
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: of taken some old claims of abuse and brought them

1034
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: back to the surface. My media team is talking about it.

1035
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: Certain people felt strongly about it. They wanted to post it.

1036
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: They said, Adam, do you do you think it's okay

1037
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: if we post this? I said, if you think it's

1038
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: important and you think it's newsworthy, then I'm not going

1039
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: to step in between you and this content and you're

1040
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: posting it. Then they posted, you hit me up. You

1041
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: inform me that this is the same as action that

1042
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: they've been saying forever. This is not new. I felt

1043
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: like that was a really good argument that if this

1044
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: is old ships just being regurgitated without cause, then that

1045
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: is a very good point. And so we ended up

1046
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: having conversations about it afterwards. I ultimately ended up regretting it,

1047
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: but at the same time feeling like this is a

1048
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: difficult position for me to be in to tell, you know,

1049
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: my mostly staff, it's not when you're human. It's not

1050
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: a difficult spot to being at all, when there's humanness

1051
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: involved in this. Okay, let me read it. To let

1052
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: me read it, just so we're clear and everybody's on

1053
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: the same page. Here, here we go. I send him

1054
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: the clip No Jumper Joe Budden act says blah blah

1055
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's the same

1056
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: thing that's been there for ten years. Him and I

1057
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: know each other. This ain't Kevin Samuels. We have spoke.

1058
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: He quote unquote looks up to me. Fucking we've almost business.

1059
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: I text him and say, Yo, this is disgusting. Adam,

1060
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: this is disgusting, he says. News team posted it. Why

1061
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: is it disgusting already we're pushing this off on our employees.

1062
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: I think in that moment that they were under the

1063
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: impression that this was big news and that we were

1064
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about your minions. I don't care what

1065
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: you're man very important in the story, I know, but

1066
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: for my story, it's only you that's important. I think

1067
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: Joe was familiar, not really understanding and misunderstanding his relationship

1068
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: with some of these guys. These people are not his buddies.

1069
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: They they they showing them even act, in my opinion,

1070
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: kind of shows that like, let me finish it. Hey,

1071
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: you ain't my big homeade like that? You my guy.

1072
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: But now I don't think that's not really a real question.

1073
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: Why is it? I respond to because I know him

1074
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: for another it ended up being old. I ended up agreeing,

1075
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: but it seemed like news to me, and the tell

1076
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: them maybe because it's a story from fifteen years ago

1077
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: that your team is running that doesn't even have paperwork

1078
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: to support it. But I will not tell you how

1079
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: to run your business. Have a blast, he says. I

1080
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: mean it's a new statement from her, right, I would

1081
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: need a pretty good reason to tell them to delete it.

1082
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: That's what he said to me. Oh, you don't hear me,

1083
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: or do I need to repeat this? The fact that

1084
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: you think that this is some Cris said, it's very

1085
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: weird thing. Hip hop has covered this story about you

1086
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: at some point, right, has everybody in hippossibly ten has

1087
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: everybody in hip hop covered your stories? Some No, has

1088
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: everybody in hip hop covered your story? I think when

1089
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: I had my story, though it was a much I

1090
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: was a much smaller personality, so it's covered back and

1091
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: now that you are bigger. Some of those nasty we'll

1092
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: call false allegations. I don't know enough about them, but

1093
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: they should have been that they would be detrimental if true.

1094
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: There's nobody that are reposting some of those stories of

1095
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: the things that women said that you did to them

1096
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: right today in twenty twenty. Can you answer my very

1097
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: direct question, Well, no, I don't see a lot of that. Well,

1098
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: I was actually really asking him for the reason that

1099
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: he thought that it was so unfair, Because if he

1100
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: proposed to me that it was unfair or that this

1101
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: was being misrepresented in a way that I thought was accurate,

1102
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: then I was deleted. Just made the state you're not

1103
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: as stupid as you play. That would FBG Cash And

1104
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: this is a clip from the interview. FBG Cash claims

1105
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: little Dirk told him to take a photo at King

1106
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: Vaughan's mural Rest in Peace, King Vaughn Peace. Cash. Oh no,

1107
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: this is like a this is not just an isolated incident.

1108
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That was what That's what he

1109
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: talked about. That was it. I mean, that's at all.

1110
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: It's an important, important thing to talk But like, come on, Adam,

1111
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: you got a bigger responsibility to this as the multi

1112
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: millionaire from truth Bob. I know all, I know many

1113
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: many block right, I've been there. I know these guys

1114
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: an interview a bunch of them with the GDS as well.

1115
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: None of them have told me that they think these

1116
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: titles are in any way out of line, because to them,

1117
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: it just seems like common sense. If you're gonna interview

1118
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: these guys, of course you're going to talk about the

1119
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: ship that they actually talk about in there. No, now,

1120
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm tight, Conda, I ain't gonna hold you think about this.

1121
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: This interview came out. He had no complaints. None of

1122
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: the old Block guys had any complaints. I mean, you

1123
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: guys are so much more sensitive than the actual gang.

1124
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: You know why, because we're in our forties. Stop stop, no, no,

1125
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: let me finish. No no, no, he sang, he sang,

1126
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: We're more sensitive. We're the young black people that are

1127
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: these kids parents, These are our little brothers. These all right,

1128
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: let me try to wrap some understanding around this. I

1129
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: think right now they're greeing on what's being done, but

1130
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: not what's happening. You gotta keep up. They're agreeing on

1131
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 1: what's being done, but not what's happening. So what they're

1132
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: saying is what's being done is yo. They are freely

1133
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: coming on these platforms saying certain things that can incriminate

1134
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: them and put them inside of situations where they're talking.

1135
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: They opts in certain things, and that's helping their career.

1136
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they wrap about. This is what

1137
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: Adam is saying is happening. What we're saying is happening

1138
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: is there's some effects from that interview that you don't

1139
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: have to deal with. Adam, interviewer whoever's talking to these

1140
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: people and instigating some of these situations that leave these

1141
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: gentlemen without security, smacking the ghetto amongst the people that

1142
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: they are at warwid Then you got to understand that

1143
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: when a lot of these young stuffs going these platforms,

1144
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: they deal with inflation, and you know, they try to

1145
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: spread they feathers, and if they knocked one guy out

1146
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that turned into five. And if

1147
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: there was an accidental killing all of a sudden, that

1148
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: that turned into them spinning on knobs when it was

1149
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: a return five that turned into them in this interview,

1150
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: them being the person that were pushing up with it.

1151
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: But because they understand the formula, they saw it dumb before.

1152
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: If you don't necessarily all the way believing you're telling

1153
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: you gotta there create a persuma, they gotta look at

1154
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: you like Superman. So now they try to show that

1155
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: I ain't just a rapper I'm with that for real,

1156
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: and what I'm talking is real life. And so now

1157
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: they always chasing this gangster car that only lands you

1158
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: in one or two places. Aren't nephews that are outside

1159
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: killing each other? And you white people are now interviewing

1160
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: them distall open about it. I would love he ain't

1161
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: making the money you are? You sitting there interviewing these

1162
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: black kids that are killing each other, and y'all monetizing that.

1163
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: That's not cool. I don't give a they talking about

1164
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: and their songs, y'all are turning the profit off of

1165
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: this black trauma of them killing each other. Yeah, they're

1166
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: the ones doing the killing because they're young and they dumb,

1167
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: and they don't know no better. We're forty five and

1168
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: forty six years old, and we know better because these

1169
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: are our nephews. He asked them about his musical and

1170
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: his content. True, And what I'm telling you is he's

1171
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty twenty one years old. He's gonna give anything

1172
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: just to be on somebody's camera and get some light

1173
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: shines on his project. I interview from what I'm saying

1174
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: is lost, He lost his life. I interview rappers. All

1175
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: the two people are losing their lines, and you keep

1176
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: telling me about them the business, and I interview them

1177
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: and they don't. They don't know about crazy because they

1178
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: do know better. I'm telling you what. Most street rappers

1179
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: when you interview them, are not gonna say sirs, or

1180
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: they're not gonna they're not gonna whatever. They're older ones.

1181
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: They're smart about older ones. He was. He was no,

1182
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: he was someone that's a normal words me. He was

1183
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: someone who was more open about the people who's beven with. Obviously,

1184
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: he's like Little Dirk's top op while he was living

1185
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: right and so he's talking about his problems with a

1186
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: Little Dirk because that's a that's a prominent theme in

1187
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: music and stuff. His enemy, that's what a lot of

1188
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: his content is about. Of course, I want to know

1189
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: about the conflict that he has with one of the

1190
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: top rappers that he has befo true. How can I

1191
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: not ask the guys about making music true? You're not

1192
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: saying one wrong. I'll try to speak about this and

1193
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: then we'll move on from this. I spent I wanted

1194
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time on this because I

1195
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: think it's important that we understand how to operate in

1196
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: these places and what happens when we're placed in these positions.

1197
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: Right when you're dealing with these guys that's doing these interviews,

1198
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: you may have to create a contract that says, hey,

1199
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: any event that I that you cannot put an interview

1200
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: for you, and had them sign off on that whenever

1201
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: you're signing off on whatever they're asking you to sign

1202
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: off for. So maybe they have to do that because

1203
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: you deal with people to ao, this is a capitalist

1204
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: sport and this is a there is value in the

1205
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: market for that, but that doesn't make it right. And

1206
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: also especially because that money cannot be directly donated or

1207
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: given to the family that's been affected by the loss

1208
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: of in oftentimes one of their biggest providers. So I

1209
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: view it different from that because I've had to be

1210
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: involved in saw people that had to need help burying

1211
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: folks and what that transition is and what that looks

1212
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: like and also if it's a bread when or what

1213
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: that looks like. But when you deal with the other

1214
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: side of it, and they're speaking about him interviewing drill

1215
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: robbers and asking them about their quote unquote opts and

1216
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: you know it's funny here and the white guys say that,

1217
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: but there's coach. I guess what we have to understand

1218
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: is if that when one hand wash the other, both

1219
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: watch the face and no. And I know that when

1220
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: we deal with our drill rappers and they rapping about

1221
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: crimes and killing and committing robberies and all these certain things,

1222
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: I understand that that's also us. It's just us in

1223
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: our worst form. And I understand that a lot of

1224
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: times this is representative of our worst circumstances. This ain't

1225
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: all of us, but this is some of us. And

1226
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: so I don't never extract myself from any understanding. And

1227
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: I think that same feeling doesn't exist for some people

1228
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: that lives in media is because they create environments that

1229
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: they don't have to encounter. Yeah, you hYP hyping up

1230
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: beating man and he said this thing. You know they

1231
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: running to each other, You ain't running and now some Yeah,

1232
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: then when you add into the equation that you're dealing

1233
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: with first generation drill rappers or even first generation rappers

1234
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: that had the Internet, with this level of fame, this

1235
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: level of money, the Internet gives you, this level of access,

1236
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: this is not change how people interact with each other,

1237
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: and this whole thing that we call life has been

1238
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: affected by the Internet. Whether you accept it or not,

1239
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: that's on you to deal with. I'm giving you a

1240
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: guarantee that everything and everybody has been affected by the Internet.

1241
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: Whether they've ever got on it or not, they have

1242
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: been directly affected by the Internet. And that cannot be

1243
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: more true for the avenues that these guys see on

1244
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: how to change their situation. So they're going sitting next

1245
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: to these people with this audience. They craze for this optal,

1246
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, and if we talk about you know, we

1247
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: document the process around here. It is up there partcase.

1248
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: We document the circumstances, certain things we deal with. But

1249
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: some of these shows, right, they instigate some of these issues.

1250
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: They have created this weird avenue and interest for this

1251
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: kind of behavior. And so a lot of these young

1252
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: boys look at that and they save what a if

1253
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't think no jumper, I gotta give no jump

1254
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: or something. I think six hundred Breeze would be dealing

1255
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: with that. When he sits with Vlade, it's almost like

1256
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: he paid me, I gotta give him something like I

1257
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: can't just sit here and spend him because he ain't

1258
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna pay me again, and I need this little money.

1259
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: So I gotta give him something, So here, bring me back,

1260
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: and then we can react to what we said last

1261
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: time and their reaction to it. So they create this

1262
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: ecosystem where they can kind of feed their seals off

1263
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: of this level of behavior and so becoming a personality

1264
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: it is just as important as your music being mixing master.

1265
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: And so they find themselves saying, all right, I'm going

1266
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: to sit with Adam on no jumper, Man, I'm gonna

1267
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: talk about that Rob, I'm gonna talk about man. When

1268
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: them dude shot it that we jumped out the costlid down,

1269
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: the heire this that, and the third man got into

1270
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: with them looking and shot at him like we're gonna

1271
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: give it up. When we get over on probation smoking man,

1272
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: we're going on. You know. That's how it's creating that

1273
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: kind of environment. And because people are seeing a direct

1274
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,919
Speaker 1: effect on their music, it ain't the other way around.

1275
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: They'll make you think that they can come here and

1276
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,480
Speaker 1: not talk about that and still see that same conversion

1277
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: when that's just not the reality. Right, you are not

1278
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: saying one wrong thing. What I'm saying is I find

1279
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: it somewhat disturbing that somebody that is outside of what

1280
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: these boys endure on a day to day basis, interviewing

1281
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: them and monetizing it for your own personal gain. When

1282
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: these kids are dying in journals, they're gaining from it

1283
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: as well. No, they're not promoting his music. There's a

1284
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: reason why these dudes, in particular, you got Ruga and

1285
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: FBG Cash on the screen. They both fly to Los

1286
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: Angeles to do an interview with me because it's promoting

1287
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: their career and their business that they're building for themselves.

1288
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: The fact that FBG Cash got into this random situation

1289
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: where some is ex girlfriend's new boyfriends shot him or whatever.

1290
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: The what does that have to do with anything? What

1291
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: you just say stop stop what you said? Relationship? They

1292
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: don't know enough. It's like me taking a seventeen year

1293
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 1: old girl. Or this is a grown man. He just

1294
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: did like seven years in prison before he did this interview.

1295
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: How can you just do you'm like a child and

1296
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: say he doesn't know enough because mentally he's going on

1297
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: songs bragging about his killings. That means he don't know

1298
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: what an exaggeration. I don't know that he bragged about

1299
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: killing anyone. He'd probably be in prison if that was

1300
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: the case. He raps about the street. He keep a yeah,

1301
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: he does. Everybody that's grown ain't grown. Mentally, you agree

1302
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: without a not so you think I should asking like

1303
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: some sort of reliance evaluation, get them like a quiz

1304
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: where they have to have to prove that the Q

1305
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: is high enough. Yeah, I think you should be doing that.

1306
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: But he don't have to do that. What I'm asking

1307
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: you is, do you agree with me, yes or no,

1308
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: that every grown person in age is not necessarily the

1309
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: sharpest knife and a draw. Mentally, do I agree that

1310
01:10:52,200 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: there's a range of intelligence? Are there smart people? I'm

1311
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: to have a problem with what I did up there, y'all.

1312
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: He ain't answering. Oh people, this is easy? Cool, so

1313
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: some people. So these people are people I'm genuinely interested

1314
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: in meeting and having conversations with it. And then I

1315
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: put it on liked hold on many Hey wait wait wait, wait,

1316
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: because I say it all the time here about how

1317
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: that's not a fan. That's not a fan. No, I

1318
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: actually listened to it, like, actually that is the music

1319
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 1: I like the most in the world. But the same finish,

1320
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: your your behavior and your train of thought isn't aligned

1321
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: with the well being of these people. You're just listening

1322
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: to songs. I can't say this. I don't like the

1323
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: Paul where he kind of explained the interaction between those

1324
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: two guys and kind of called it like some some

1325
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: bullshit or some bullsh. You got a shout over some

1326
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: bullsh because you're understanding the interviews are being explained to

1327
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: you only because it's under the guys that it can

1328
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: kind of big up my status in career. And I'm

1329
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: fortunate that we hang our hats on being tough. We

1330
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: got some kind of weird energies around and that you know,

1331
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: when you don't got nothing else, you got that in

1332
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: a weird way. We stuck in that little vibe. This conversation. Man,

1333
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: it's so much that we can talk about, but we

1334
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: got so much more to get into on the show.

1335
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 1: I will say this, if Joe had trouble with Adam,

1336
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: he do not want to with Shots. Shots is like

1337
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: ten times Adam in regards to his knowledge ability to

1338
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: just conversate. Like if that with Shots sitting there there

1339
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: would be in a different thing of Shots. It's much

1340
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: better than Adam. Respectfully to Adam. Again, Adam does a

1341
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: good interview, but Shots is this different thing because he's

1342
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: mixed the comedianship with the broad cash right, and not

1343
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: that he can't be crushed, but that performance right there,

1344
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: sitting next to shows could have ended bad if you

1345
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: haven't gonna see that Joe Budding Adam twenty two. They

1346
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: had a long conversation. Let's let's see what else we

1347
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: want to speak about. Jay Z is making the runs

1348
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: for his homeboy Kellik, you know, seems to be part

1349
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: of what he does. Then when he drops a verse

1350
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: that means something to the coach, he kind of comes

1351
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,799
Speaker 1: out and find a space to go to and speak

1352
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: on it. This time he went to Twitter spaces with

1353
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: Khalik Guru. A lot of people were in there and

1354
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: the environment was one of celebration and was one of

1355
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: appreciation as they acknowledged what hold has was and els

1356
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: and still lives doing in the booth and also outside

1357
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: the booth. I think this verse was a monumental moment

1358
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: for jay Z because not from a verse perspective, but

1359
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: just from as that age to still see him hit

1360
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: that half court three. You know, it ain't necessarily got

1361
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: to be the best verse that he ever done, but

1362
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: he still showing you that half court three. Though he

1363
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: still can right, and I also applaud the South Presence home.

1364
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: Now you know that record Guard did as a very

1365
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: special tune, especially the guy that that wrote it. I'm

1366
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: sorry I forgot his name, but he's a special your voice,

1367
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: special individual. But jay Z came and spoke out on

1368
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: a few things, and I think that anytime he comes out,

1369
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, I was the one that came out like

1370
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: Joe Yo, Jay, we gotta get you out sometime to

1371
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: speak to the culture right the way that some of

1372
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: our forefathers and people that's in position have to come

1373
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: out and speak so we can grab a hold to

1374
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: that information that's working three hundred miles away from where

1375
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: you located. Is helping Nick come about the gutter, you know. Um,

1376
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna try to hopefully provide avenue for some

1377
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: of the grace to come sit down and we really

1378
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: had some of the real conversations and dig into the

1379
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: business side of things. But let's listen to a little

1380
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: bit of what Hove had to say and go from there.

1381
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: Time for you know, for the culture, everybody's tapped in

1382
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: and tuned in. No matter what they tell you they're

1383
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: gonna they all tapped in. They all toothed in and

1384
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: everybody want to be on the joints too. Believe that. Man.

1385
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Brother, Nah man, you know what you

1386
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: did was um something. You know, we're not My first

1387
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: reaction when I got the Verse, you know, just playing

1388
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: the record for you that day was you know, you're

1389
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: giving me the time and you you know, cracking And

1390
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell it in real time. People. You know,

1391
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: the man walked in there with champagne. You know what

1392
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The music was playing, the cigar got licked,

1393
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: a bottle got cracked open, and you know, you know,

1394
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: the vibe started happening. So I cheated a couple of

1395
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: times before I went in the boots out, but I

1396
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: was saying it inside the control room and then so

1397
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: when I went to booth, it was pretty much yeah

1398
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: and done. Deal. Oh if I may just get into

1399
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: the verse because me myself, you know, Guru, a man, Frasier,

1400
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, we were all kind of talking about the

1401
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: Verse and what I kind of got out of it.

1402
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: Just remembering the early days of hip hop and now

1403
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: we've always been aspirational as a culture, and you know,

1404
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: in music, even thinking about early records like special that

1405
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: I got. It made was so aspirational, like right, Google

1406
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: pointed out just just to own a percent, you know

1407
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that's all we wanted, or Honda

1408
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: School or something like that. No, No, it's it's it's like,

1409
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: first of all, you know, um, you gotta remember hip

1410
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: hop was demonized when we first came out, you know,

1411
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: and then we were underestimated, right you know, like Callas said,

1412
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't believe in us. And remember hip

1413
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: hop was a fad, you know. I mean you can

1414
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: do your history like you know, it was a whole

1415
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: thing where it was like this, this music is a

1416
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: fad as blah blah blah blah. And then after they

1417
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: couldn't get rid of us, they demonized this and they

1418
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: started like driving tractors over our CDs and things like that.

1419
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: This is all history. So this for me feels like

1420
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, the end where the villain um you know, survives,

1421
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: doesn't go to jail but gets to pop more. You know.

1422
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: So it's like it's that feeling. I don't know if

1423
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: we've ever felt you know, we've ever been vocalized in

1424
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: this way, and it'd be all true, you know that

1425
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: the thing that that makes me more's proud of everything.

1426
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: Every word I said in that thing is actual fact um,

1427
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: which is you know that for me, it's a um

1428
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: it's a challenging thing to do, like to rap that

1429
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: long and every single bar it's just like actual fact.

1430
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: And as far as like hip hop, you know, the

1431
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: idea of you know, rest in peace telaw like this

1432
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: is these that's that's topis uh brother um trance um

1433
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: like you know, and then like uh a lot of

1434
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: fallen soldiers that's Biggie, that's pot uh kicking snow for

1435
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: frozen ten that's people that go our name that you

1436
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: guys don't know about, you know, like it's so much

1437
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: in my life. And then and then it's like the

1438
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: way I connect overseas. You know Caddy you know Caddy story.

1439
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: I guess see he could tell it on his own. Um.

1440
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: You know, like just just that how powerful the music is,

1441
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 1: the reach of the music, and um, you know where

1442
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: we come to. So yeah, yeah, you're one hundred percent

1443
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: on point. You know, I don't know if I don't

1444
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: know if I self censor it. Um, I'm aware of

1445
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: the timing of things. Um. I think that you know, again,

1446
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: some some of these things out of my control, you know. Uh,

1447
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's just the way the world works and

1448
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: the universe works. You know, just you know, Klik came

1449
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: at this specific time. You know, there's things there's sometimes

1450
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: I like a beat, or you know, I like a

1451
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: song and the timing ain't right, or you know, you

1452
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: know the timing is right and I don't like a song.

1453
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's so much that goes into like, um,

1454
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: getting these things done these days. And I have a

1455
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of things on my play. So

1456
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just out of my control. Just was the

1457
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: right time, right place, um, you know, right space in life? Um,

1458
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, and it and it just happened. It's just this,

1459
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: this is just magic. It's it's out of it's really

1460
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: out of our control. Ends on a rat record, So

1461
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: now saying billionaires, Yeah, and we're not gonna stop. You

1462
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: know this, the hip hop is young, We're still we're

1463
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: still growing and we're not falling for that trichnology whatever

1464
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: you know this public puts out there now now you

1465
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: know before it's the American dream. Pull yourself out of

1466
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: bootstraps and you can make yourself. You can make it

1467
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: in all these these lies that America told us our

1468
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: whole life, and then when we start getting in, they

1469
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: try to lock us out of it. They started venting

1470
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: words like, you know, capitalists and you know, things like that.

1471
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've been called monkeys and kids.

1472
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: Those words y'all come up where y'all gotta come with

1473
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: stronger words. When I say, y'all, I'm not talking about you,

1474
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: the words they come up where they gotta come up

1475
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: with stronger words. We're not gonna stop. We're not gonna

1476
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: be tricked out of our position. Y'all locked us out.

1477
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: Y'all created a system that you know doesn't include us.

1478
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: We said, fine, we went our alternate route. We created

1479
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: this music. We did our thing. You know, we hustle,

1480
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: you can kilt ourselves to get through the space. And

1481
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, now it's like you know, you know, eat

1482
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: the rich and think, man, we're not stopping. So that

1483
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: evolution is you know from us. You know, we came

1484
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: from selling seven records and selling records out of our

1485
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: trump and you know, no radio play. And I think

1486
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: the reasons we doubt did thirty six thousand in the

1487
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: first week or some something like that. I mean, I

1488
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: may be I may be adding a little to it,

1489
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, we come from me. I

1490
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: come from massy projects. In my first house, six fifteen

1491
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 1: Lexton Avenue, my grandmother's house, seven families lived like she

1492
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: has seven kids. My mother and you know, my parents

1493
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: and siblings lived in that house. My aunt NISI lived

1494
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 1: in that house. Hood he lived in that house, Butche

1495
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: lived in the basement. I mean, this is one house.

1496
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: I went back to that house. I did an interview

1497
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: with Oprah and and I couldn't believe how small this

1498
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: house was. That all of us lived in that house.

1499
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: So again that evolution, as you speak up, it's just

1500
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: real and it's happening in real time, and I'm talking

1501
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: about it. You know, one thing I took from what

1502
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: jay Z just said is they won't trigger us out

1503
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: of our spot. You know. I know one thing about America,

1504
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, and we deal with it in the ghetto

1505
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: and in the streets and in the industry and everywhere,

1506
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: because it ain't about us. It's America got a system

1507
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: in place, and they make us suffer. Even if they

1508
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: give us information, they make us suffer for it. Even

1509
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: if they give us benefits. They make a suffer for it.

1510
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,879
Speaker 1: Even if they give us whatever, they make us suffer,

1511
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: they break break us down for whatever the information that

1512
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: they do give us. If they is taking care of

1513
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: the mama, the dad, they can't live them. If they

1514
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: is providing them with food and a way to eat,

1515
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: the father got to leave. Help me understand. But this

1516
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: is the situation that we've been placed in. What we

1517
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: gotta understand what they mean for bad turn out for good.

1518
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: When I look at it and I say, all us suffer,

1519
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: we've been. They've been taking us through hell to just

1520
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: make it as black people in America, then we look

1521
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: at it and understand how the universe only glorified help

1522
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: and love those that have suffered. Those that's well to do,

1523
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: they can't understand the tied shoes We run laps around

1524
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: them because we don't suffer. The been in situations where

1525
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: I encounter us had more gravity attached to him, in

1526
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: which you can lose your people money and then encourage you, Hey,

1527
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: run off, long as you got your life. Just let

1528
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: them get away with it, Johnny, Let that go on.

1529
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: Our behalf is you've been not come home without that money.

1530
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna get put out. You don't come home with

1531
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: that money. Somewhere along the lines, I think jay Z

1532
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: and others figured out the dreams or what you hope

1533
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: for in reality is what you're playing and work for.

1534
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 1: You're going from being able to say millions to billions.

1535
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: I always talk to my homes, let's make some millionaire

1536
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: to make me one. Help me understand. I can help

1537
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: and understand. It's past this torture. We ain't worried about

1538
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: talent product. We got that. Let's structure it is. Let's

1539
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: let's let's introduce people into the lifestyle, because the more

1540
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: of them is the stronger your voice become. Jay Z

1541
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: has shown me something. He's like a case study for me.

1542
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: When I watching my How, I even watch how the

1543
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: media covers jay Z, and I say, okay, so they

1544
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: do know how to cover rappers different they just choose

1545
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: not to because in jay Z's for example, when jay

1546
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: Z's God the Adverse, I've seen an article. I think

1547
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: it might have been news Week, one of those sites.

1548
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I get this wrong, but they took

1549
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 1: his God the adverse, in which we know he's reflecting

1550
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: on lifestyle and circumstances, and that's all we've been telling them.

1551
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: We just documenting the circumstances and the process of what

1552
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: we had to go through soa and endured in this process, right,

1553
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: and we just hope y'all understand it. We no longer

1554
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: indulge in because I don't even got the kind of

1555
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: schedule to be able to run a game. Ain't for

1556
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: real and then't even possible for what it is that

1557
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: my work schedule look like. But let's set that to

1558
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: the side. In this verse in which jay Z was

1559
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: speaking directly to the past and certain things that if

1560
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: he was fighting under RICO, they could frame those its

1561
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: admissions to doing certain things. But you know what, they didn't.

1562
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: They framed it as jay Z spoke on the failed

1563
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: drug war in his God did verse, And I said,

1564
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: see see how they did that. That's the thing about journalists.

1565
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: They know how to frame this in a way that's effective.

1566
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 1: They can argue both sides. And how do I know

1567
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: this is because I'm one. I've studied this game, and

1568
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: now I see the technique journalists and communicators, people that

1569
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: operate at a high click in that space you're dealing

1570
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: with literally, people that are tell you don't judge a

1571
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: big bass cover, but then tell you what you see

1572
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: is what you get somebody, right, So you gotta know

1573
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: it's trickery involved with communication. This is not something to

1574
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: just winky I had when you see a commercial come

1575
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: on your scream and its thousands of hours and understanding

1576
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: how to do that and why to do that, and

1577
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: when to do that, and what triggers and what doesn't.

1578
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: The Hamburger don't look the same, the dist inturgent don't

1579
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 1: look the same. The people that's watching they had and

1580
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: now it's just it's game involved in that, you know.

1581
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: But it's good to see j pop out, you know

1582
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Kelly Guard did seem to be doing well.

1583
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: I think he's number one bad Bunnet has been killing it.

1584
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: He's been number one or two all year long. He's

1585
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:42,879
Speaker 1: been smashing it. People are arguing is he more famous

1586
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: than Drake where or wide streaming wise? He's been number

1587
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: one or two the whole entire years. So again, I

1588
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 1: don't know, like that is a strong that's a strong

1589
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: place to hold. Speaking of music, little Baby it's about

1590
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,759
Speaker 1: to drop October fourteenth. It's only me, the young legend,

1591
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: one of the realist youngness in the game doing this shit.

1592
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, ain't no ten on that. You know that

1593
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: young over certain way. Man, we got we got respect

1594
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: for how he'd been moving. And I think the industry

1595
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: is about to stop and listen to what he got

1596
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: going on. He's, in my opinion, the king of that style,

1597
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: that flow. That pocket right there, he the king of that.

1598
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: And then he can pop out of that pocket and

1599
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: go way over there and dance with them boys. He

1600
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: didn't showed you been on some of the biggest records, Like,

1601
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: let's not down play what baby is and how he coming.

1602
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: Now we talk I'm talking to your music heads. I

1603
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: ain't even talking to That's the thing about this show.

1604
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: We talked to everybody. I'm talking to your music heads.

1605
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: If anybody want to have a conversation, let's have a conversation.

1606
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: We're talking about Meling his records versus balls, hooks, beats, Right,

1607
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: let's if they want to talk about it. But his

1608
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 1: album cover dropping as you see the indications, right, he

1609
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: know his position, he claiming, and I think the industry

1610
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: in the world gonna stop when they hear what he got.

1611
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: You know, I trust what he's doing. I know that

1612
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: he got that creative spirit. I think because he didn't

1613
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: get to go on too on his last album. He

1614
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: still has that hunger in and he still got that.

1615
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know how big this he is in him.

1616
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear the album. Man, if you're

1617
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: gonna do anything, be for real. A little baby about

1618
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: the drop. Let's get it. Let's talk about this. Trader

1619
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: Truth and Zero got into an altercation. A Fitty cis

1620
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 1: Tycoon weekend. Shout out fitt this send. It was lit

1621
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: out there seeing QC out there. I seen Quevo takeoff.

1622
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I tell I think the baby was out there. A

1623
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 1: lot of people was out there, right, Fitty does what

1624
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: Fitty does, Antonio Brown, all of them guys is out

1625
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: there kicking it. Of course it was in conjunction with

1626
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 1: his liquor, as he does a great job with his branding.

1627
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: In this particular situation, though, Zero and Trade the Truth

1628
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: far away from the Tycoon event, I think at the

1629
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: restaurant had got into it. For those of you under

1630
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: what Trader Truth and Zero are two rappers that are

1631
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: from Houston, legends in their own right and their legends

1632
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: in the South. Um. These two guys have had some

1633
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: kind of altercation for about ten years. Something happened, whatever

1634
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: relationship just went in different directions, and apparently there's some

1635
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 1: disrespect that one side felt like we needed to address

1636
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: whenever we saw you, and the other side felt like, oh,

1637
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: maybe there would be a conversation. This is according to Zero,

1638
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: you know, again knowing his participation. So loone don't know,

1639
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: but my job is to break the culture down. Let's

1640
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: take a look at the first video that popped out

1641
01:28:35,320 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: and then we'll get into some game. So in that video,

1642
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: at that time, as you see, Zero is on the

1643
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: ground and it seems to be kind of a one

1644
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,839
Speaker 1: on one situation that doesn't feel like he's being jumped,

1645
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: but clearly when he got up and turned around, a

1646
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: couple of guys was there to be like, well, run it,

1647
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 1: run it, which would indicate to me all of them

1648
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: guys ready to get too, ready to get down. Whether

1649
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 1: that's the case or not steel was unclear at this point.

1650
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: But right after that, Zero goes to TMZ and he

1651
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: kind of explained what he thought happened, like, Yo, man,

1652
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: they ambushed me. Them dudes didn't do right by me. Man,

1653
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna have a conversation. I got

1654
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: around then I just saw a fist and got hid

1655
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: and then I said, man, I better duck and get lowing,

1656
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: get go home lumpy. So I was in a position

1657
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: like that because as you've seen, he was kneeled over,

1658
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: kind of covered up because he like, I ain't gonna

1659
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: let him just whoop on me and go home, knotted up,

1660
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: trade the truth, responding and said this, so check this out.

1661
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm just this one time, one time only. Man. I

1662
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: feel like I'm at a point in my life. I'm

1663
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: not going to city here and and let's stuff just

1664
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: laying around. But I do feel like or to people

1665
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: to know, especially people were really rock with me. Man. No,

1666
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 1: the situation that they're trying to paint the nere that

1667
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 1: they paint the false not No. Seven on one situation

1668
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: wasn't no blind side ambush. That's not what this is.

1669
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: This is family business, internal stuff that's been going on

1670
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: for ten fifteen years. It's probably been building up and

1671
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: just spilled over into you know what I'm saying. And

1672
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: the crazy thing I'm watching all these blows and everybody

1673
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 1: say some of the stuff they say when they don't

1674
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: know me, And this man in the hall to come says,

1675
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: for damn, the two hours the day after. You know

1676
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying probably a conversation that needs to be had.

1677
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: But it's just so crazy to watch so many people

1678
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: trying to put their two cent in and think they

1679
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: know what they're talking about and say this, say that,

1680
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: and look, I'm not on here to be trying to

1681
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: defend nothing. What I will tell you is those who

1682
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: know my chard to know I've always been stand up.

1683
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: They know I don't do no man, probably got one

1684
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: of the biggest hearts ever. But they also know I

1685
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: stand up for what I stand up on. If in

1686
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: any way I feel disrespected, I'm gonna stand up. I'm

1687
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: a man, you know, I'm human. Sometimes we do things

1688
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: out the emotion that that may mess us up. Sometimes

1689
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 1: we do things that we rightfully feel is right. What

1690
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: I can say is and the situation and this internal stuff. Man.

1691
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy because fighting my whole life, our

1692
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 1: whole family. I always fights. So it's just different now

1693
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: because it's always can Amazon, it's always social media and

1694
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: people with a pin. It ain't no hate for that. Man.

1695
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: You gotta understand I'm not gonna I'm never gonna let

1696
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: nobody hurt or harm him. You know, and that's just it.

1697
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: It's simple as can be, as far as the blogs,

1698
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 1: as far as everybody who has something to say that

1699
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm seeing, just you know, you gotta keep the same

1700
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: energy for those who really rock with me. You know,

1701
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: if I let y'all down, that's on me. I stand

1702
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 1: on that, and you know, I accept my accountability. But

1703
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: other than that, man, it's just it is what it is.

1704
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: Though I'm not gonna let people keep as in field

1705
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: to a fire, killing it up, a gas and it up. Now,

1706
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: after Tray said that right again, Zeroy went on TMZ.

1707
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, I guess that's part of what it is

1708
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: now for me, that's still kind of weird feeling for

1709
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: like to get the fight and run on TMZ or

1710
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: something or something like that. But TMZ didn't feel as

1711
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 1: nasty as the news. He then sat down with the News.

1712
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, so this is really a crime,

1713
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,679
Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure you can just be like yo,

1714
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: they jumped me to the news, like the police might

1715
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we're going to get involved with that.

1716
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: We got the video. He admitted to the crime, Like

1717
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: how far can we go with pressing charges? So when

1718
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: I first seen it, I was like, Yo. But then

1719
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe that's how they get down around there.

1720
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: It ain't for me to speak on, but let's listen

1721
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: to a little bit of it, of that portion of

1722
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 1: what went on, you know what I'm saying, got got

1723
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: jumped and wasn't allowed to do anything further. As I

1724
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,919
Speaker 1: got to my feet. I came to the place by myself.

1725
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: I came there to meet my artist, which was already

1726
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: in the establishment when I got there, and uh, you know,

1727
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: we had to support fifty, you know, and of course

1728
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: my man, you know JQ. You know what I'm saying,

1729
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: everything that he does with Branson or anything with fifty,

1730
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, I supported something that is just you know,

1731
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: so support like normal, not expecting nothing, you know, not

1732
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: having any recent altercations with anybody that would warrant something

1733
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: like that to happen. So I wasn't expecting anything like that,

1734
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: anything of that sort to go on Bush new Lord

1735
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 1: the people. Oh, of course I know he's trade the truth. Yeah.

1736
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: He asked me after I was finished doing what I

1737
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: was doing with a fan to come in come and

1738
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: speak to him. So I went over to with the

1739
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: intentions of speaking, and speech is not what went on, like,

1740
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: that's not what took place speech. So it was a

1741
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: lot of like I said, I was sucker punched and

1742
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: and then I was jumped after the sucker punch. So

1743
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: that's basically what happened. Do you recall Trade actually putting

1744
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: his hands on you that it's the only person that

1745
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: I did see put their hands on me. I don't

1746
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: walk around the city with feel nobody doing anything to

1747
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 1: me because I don't have a reason too. But what

1748
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 1: I did see was when I walked up to him

1749
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: to conversate, you know, he swamp and I guess the

1750
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: affects of that go a lot further than own lookers.

1751
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: We know, like it was real disrespectful, and I think

1752
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: it was meant to be disrespectful, but I don't think

1753
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: it's really falling down the path of too much disrespect

1754
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 1: on my end right now. But I think that was

1755
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: the intention. When this video comes on, is after everybody

1756
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: that you could see in the background, because I think

1757
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: everybody that was in the background when the video comes

1758
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 1: on with the people that were assaulting me. When the

1759
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: video comes on, this is his little brother, Jayson. He

1760
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 1: is He's standing over me. I'm in the I'm in

1761
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 1: a feet man. He's saying names and everything on the

1762
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: news like a zero. I don't know, bro, damn position Like, okay,

1763
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna let y'all finish, do what y'all doing,

1764
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to stand up on my feet.

1765
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: And then when I stand up on my feet, all right, cool,

1766
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, let's take it from here. So what you

1767
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: see is the video turning on after the jump is concluded,

1768
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 1: and he comes back to still do whatever he's doing.

1769
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: And once I realize it's over, I stand at my

1770
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: feet and he is the first person I see, So

1771
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool, I'm gonna go at him, and

1772
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: then of course everybody else is around. I go with him,

1773
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: and as you can see from the video, it looked

1774
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 1: like three of the three of the guys that they're

1775
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 1: ready to jump me again. So that's what you're looking at. Well,

1776
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, man, whether it's unfair or not, if

1777
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: somebody that's the head of the crew swing the rest

1778
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: of them board is coming, that's just how I go.

1779
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: You better hope you don't never get into it. Ain't

1780
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: nobody really being like, nah, I got this. When y'all

1781
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: y'all fall back right quick. That ain't really happening no more.

1782
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 1: That's some movies. If if he got money and see

1783
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: you and swing some other people, is usually gonna swing

1784
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: this with him spead live day in their hometown. They're

1785
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 1: comfortable around here. It's gonna probably be up for you.

1786
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know about this talking to the

1787
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: news like and kind of walking him through a crime

1788
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 1: like that. I think hip hop a view that and

1789
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 1: say that's not cool. But I don't think he cared

1790
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: about that being cool. But his law enforcement interested in

1791
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 1: this now with him saying that ain't the case. Nobody

1792
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: jumped him. People was like, yo, you don't ran to

1793
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: the news dog and didn't nobody jump you? And then

1794
01:38:07,520 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 1: a day later this video come out. Who get let's

1795
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: get good, Let's go. It's good. It's good, it's good.

1796
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 1: That's that's sad news. He got me like up to

1797
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: pretty and two meet go my door, my I did's

1798
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: We don't play. I'm gonna I'm gonna get the dog

1799
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: down the ball sho. We gonna jail every day. You

1800
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: know that. You know we don't play, But man, it's

1801
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: the dome one on one. You got me you know,

1802
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: if I won't run the cone and be to me

1803
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: something acts like you want getting like you woman, not

1804
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: your farm. I din don't know how I get down.

1805
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: I was nice getting ADDI commedial, Yo, I need to

1806
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: get my trust from many who Yeah, let me go,

1807
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to said to see Big Old

1808
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 1: seemed like he kind of woods it um. But clearly

1809
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 1: that video shows a different side of things. I mean

1810
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: shows and then it kind of gives a little context,

1811
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of things that saying in the

1812
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: background now that will make you wonder. But you know,

1813
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: trade the truth seen as an activist too, so this

1814
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: kind of can be viewed away by the people that

1815
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: receive him in that way, you know what I'm saying,

1816
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 1: because he does a lot for the community and stuff

1817
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 1: down in this area, you know. But again, sometimes these

1818
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: situations me and run into they gotta handle them at

1819
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 1: that time. And if that means whatever it means, it

1820
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 1: means that, you know, it almost feels like though that

1821
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,759
Speaker 1: somebody can go to jail off the environment that's created.

1822
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 1: It's y'all saying that, I mean, is it if that

1823
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: situation was handled that way, should someone go to jail.

1824
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 1: Like where I'm from, you don't go to jail for

1825
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 1: stuff like that. They asked zero. And this is another

1826
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: thing where I'm saying law enforcement may want to get involved.

1827
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: They ask him, do you want to squash it? He

1828
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: was like, Nah, ain't no squashing it. It's like bro

1829
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 1: to say that to the news, It's like that might

1830
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 1: make law enforcement say, Yo, we gotta get involved. This

1831
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: is about the bubble lover and be dangerous for people

1832
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 1: that ain't like innocent people, you know, two wars to

1833
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: wrap wars or something like, we gotta get involved, like

1834
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 1: make some arrests. You know. I don't know, man, I

1835
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 1: just think them dudes his brothers, Maybe they earned that out.

1836
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like the embarrassment that what I'd be

1837
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,799
Speaker 1: saying though, when you get into with somebody and something happening,

1838
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 1: there's some beef and problem. It's like, Yo, it's cool

1839
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: that we want to be back. Cool. But what you

1840
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 1: want me to do with the humiliation you causing me? Though?

1841
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do with the embarrassment? Do I just

1842
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: tuck that in my pocket? You want me to look

1843
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 1: over what you said about me? And how now, how

1844
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: I got to move through this industry with people viewing

1845
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: me a certain way based on lies you might have

1846
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 1: told or things you might have said when your financial

1847
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: circumstances was vulnerable and embarrassing. When you were financially embarrassed,

1848
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: you decided to go out and say some things to

1849
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 1: kind of try to shake down the situation. And now

1850
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: that you're back, okay, then you want to clean that up.

1851
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 1: And I appreciate and understand that. But then what I

1852
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 1: do with the humiliation you caused me, it's really as

1853
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 1: I can't but what I took, where I took that

1854
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: bullishit you done when you ran to the media and

1855
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 1: you had my number, What I do with that? But

1856
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 1: Zero was this and tr for a long time when

1857
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 1: they got into that situation. I think he was running

1858
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: with Flip Man. You know, we'll watch this situation now.

1859
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: I don't really know what can come from it. We're

1860
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: gonna see if law enforcement get involved. That's a totally

1861
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 1: different circumstance, you know what I'm saying. And we hope

1862
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: they don't, but maybe they do. We don't know. I'm

1863
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 1: so grateful for where I'm at, man, And as I

1864
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 1: zoom out and I think about the reality of things. Man,

1865
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 1: there's so much more to do right, and there's it's

1866
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: so much work to put in. And because I know

1867
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: how far off of the destination I am, it does

1868
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: something to the appreciation that I should have for where

1869
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm mad. I'm more than grateful for where I'm mad.

1870
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: It just feels like that I'm running out of patience.

1871
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: And as you get in the industry and get closer right,

1872
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 1: you start to feel what you have heard people talk

1873
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 1: about when they say that it's so much distance between

1874
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: fame and money. For the person that's looking at you,

1875
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,799
Speaker 1: they there just think that go together, that you famous,

1876
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 1: you got money. There's so much distance in between those

1877
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 1: two things. But when you look at it, if you

1878
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 1: get one of those two things before you get the other,

1879
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 1: depending on which thing that you get, you could be

1880
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 1: a with it. Right. So, if you get the money

1881
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 1: before you get the fame, sometimes the fame can make

1882
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: you spend all the money. Then if you get the

1883
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: fame before you get the money, sometimes letting go of

1884
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 1: some of the fame or utilizing some of the fame

1885
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 1: in an unconventional way can help you get the money.

1886
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: But if you're the one with the fame, you can

1887
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: see that can feel like losing fame or being controlled.

1888
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: And now you've been caught in this weird world where

1889
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: everything you say has been basically repeated back to you

1890
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: and no one's giving you account of point. And when

1891
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 1: you write, you right. But I think at some point

1892
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 1: the people that work for you have an interest in

1893
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 1: if that relationship isn't pure. It's hard to have a

1894
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 1: pure relationship when the positions are wasp side. Right when

1895
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm worth one hundred million and he worth four thousand,

1896
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, he got interest in maybe not arguing with

1897
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 1: me and being tedious around me. He got interest in

1898
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: not causing no problems around me because if he don't

1899
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 1: know that I need fuel for this fire that he

1900
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: see burning, if he don't understand how the brain works

1901
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 1: and how human beings interact with one another, if he

1902
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: don't understand that, and he thinks that because his position

1903
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 1: is there, that he can't communicate with me in the

1904
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 1: same way. Now, start to lose those real opinions and

1905
01:45:56,120 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: ideas from the people around me. Like sometimes times you

1906
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: gotta have one or two you respect their mindset and

1907
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 1: they kind of got the green light, y'all might augur

1908
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: get back cool ager because they ain't gonna just even

1909
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 1: if they're wrong, but they're trying to present the other

1910
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: side to you of everything that you're running into, just

1911
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 1: so you prepare. What's crazy about the fame and the

1912
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: money conversation, though, is is that both things unlock certain

1913
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: tools and attributes and perks, and also both things have

1914
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: some cons and things that's detrimental and not the best

1915
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 1: things to have in your arsenal right, or have up

1916
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 1: against you. Right the level of power win access you

1917
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: get with money, Sometimes fame can go further than money

1918
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: when you start to deal with convenience. First, it gets

1919
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 1: to all right, you gotta just have enough to be here, right?

1920
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 1: If you got enough money, Now it goes to who

1921
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 1: can help the business from a branding perspective, And sometimes

1922
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 1: if it's like a Derek G and a Pete did

1923
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 1: he right? Then you got a situation where they might

1924
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: say what did it might look better coming in you

1925
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: know he is the right. So it's just certain things

1926
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: to start to go into who wasn't winning well. The

1927
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: problem I think is that a lot of people that

1928
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 1: get money and get fame and things like that become irresponsible.

1929
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 1: The relationship that people have with fame, man is just

1930
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 1: a just a different relationship. Right, So just picture you

1931
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: a rapper, you are entertaining, you're a ball player. You

1932
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 1: can literally confuse these things is loved because fame is

1933
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 1: fake love at the highest level. So people are screaming

1934
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: and these girls are throwing pennies or whatever. The circumstances

1935
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: that you up against it can place you up against

1936
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:55,679
Speaker 1: the wall, like they love me around here. I'm big business.

1937
01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm some of the biggest business dat unsaw. But you

1938
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: don't understand that in six years, you're gonna look back

1939
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 1: and beyond your seven year in the league and look

1940
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: back and it's gonna be another young they're doing that too,

1941
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 1: and you're gonna say, what did you what they do?

1942
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,799
Speaker 1: I thought I was I thought I was reinventing the wheel.

1943
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,879
Speaker 1: I thought I come through with some of the highest

1944
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 1: game they have never seen. But I understand now that

1945
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 1: this is part of access catching them on the way up,

1946
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: and so you got to manage your expectations when you're

1947
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: dealing with this kind of That's why some people they

1948
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,599
Speaker 1: get so big that I got to just marry who

1949
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: I was with. I don't nobody else, no men now

1950
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: because once you have an encounter with fame at a

1951
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 1: certain level, every relationship there forward of moving forward, the

1952
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 1: identity of it has been templed with They come in

1953
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: knowing that you such and such ball player, or you

1954
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: such and such enter time, are you worth such and

1955
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 1: such amount? Even though they say, baby, that don't matter,

1956
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: but it's so loud it out of matter. It's so

1957
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: much happening. This here gotta matter. When you're telling me

1958
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:08,719
Speaker 1: it don't matter, it's almost made me think you trying

1959
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: to treat me. Maybe I gotta get a woman to

1960
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 1: help me understand what you mean when you say that

1961
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 1: you now ran into one of the top dudes in

1962
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 1: this industry making a lot of money, that's famous and wealthy,

1963
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 1: and that don't matter none to your interaction with him

1964
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 1: on an intimate level, or even on that level where

1965
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: y'all are dating. I find it very hard to believe, right,

1966
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 1: because in some situations, she's just a little too high.

1967
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: It's just a little too I mean, sometimes you can

1968
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 1: look at somebody resume and say, Okay, really, yeah, you

1969
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 1: is one of the ones that don't matter with And

1970
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: to be honest with y'all might not want somebody that

1971
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: it don't matter with like you just got you know,

1972
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: all kind of on your resume. You don't date that

1973
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: every kind of dude, from the corporate man to the

1974
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 1: valet parking guy. So okay, when she got reins, like

1975
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 1: still curring because to tell me that my status and

1976
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 1: the way I live, the way I carry myself and

1977
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 1: all of those things don't are not in the equation

1978
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: or why you're dating or why we are interacting in

1979
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 1: the way that we are. Could speak to me and

1980
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,719
Speaker 1: say that you don't have any standards, but it also

1981
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: could speak to me and say that you are gold dude.

1982
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: That's why these things gotta be kind of there's a

1983
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: line that you gotta It's confusing because if you just say, well, baby,

1984
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 1: the money don't matter, I'm gonna say that you trick it.

1985
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: You're trying to trick me, because the money gotta matter,

1986
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 1: the lifestyle you live, the lifestyle I live. These kind

1987
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 1: of lifestyles ain't cheap and they don't come for free,

1988
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 1: so the money gotta matter. It gotta matter. That's why

1989
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 1: it's a weird place it places individuals in once you

1990
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: get a certain amount of money, because it's almost like, okay,

1991
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 1: we dating each other. But as we just know what

1992
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 1: is this? You know that they say a girl or

1993
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 1: date your pockets in a date your body. I hate

1994
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: your attitude, but really dating your eggs. She hate how

1995
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 1: you talk to it, but she really she she really

1996
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 1: dating your pockets though, now she dating what it feel

1997
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: like that villa y'all was in when y'all went to

1998
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 1: the Meeka. No, she really dating that access to that

1999
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of and he really don't like the way you

2000
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: really cook a none, but yeah, he dating your body.

2001
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 1: And these these standards don't These standards ain't for everybody, right,

2002
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 1: every humans encounters have these kind of slippery parts to

2003
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 1: it where it gets bleary. I'm telling you when you

2004
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 1: insert fame on a human and then you insert money

2005
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 1: on a human, like it's almost like on everyone's GTA character,

2006
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: and that these thousand black characters, or these twenty five

2007
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:54,719
Speaker 1: thousand black characters got rich on them, but these fifty

2008
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 1: five hundred black characters got fame on them, These sixteen

2009
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 1: hundred megastar celebrities got megafhame on them. When you encapsulate

2010
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 1: that with the humans mindset, mind framing interactions with praise,

2011
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 1: you put a human in a weird situation. So then

2012
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 1: when you got these women and these men that's dating

2013
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: each other, there's this weird aura about it that ain't

2014
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 1: really spoke about because it's hard to speak about because

2015
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: you can't tell me it ain't about the money, because

2016
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 1: that's basically telling me you don't have no standards. Now

2017
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: we gotta dance in between you saying it ain't about

2018
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 1: the money, but you won't be what ain't got money?

2019
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: Then how do you do that as a woman? How

2020
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 1: hard is that for a woman to do to day?

2021
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 1: To go with money to that you met with money? Right?

2022
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 1: You meet me on these status is driving these cars,

2023
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 1: getting on these jets, with these planes and boats. You

2024
01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 1: you meet me on these kind of levels. So how

2025
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:00,600
Speaker 1: do you convince me that you out here for the

2026
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,719
Speaker 1: access to that kind of lifestyle. A lot of women

2027
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 1: think they can do that by showing you that I

2028
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 1: already got access to that kind of lifestyle. And sometimes

2029
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 1: that might work to a nick. Damn this struggle I'm

2030
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 1: talking about to a nick, this is really his lifestyle.

2031
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 1: That really don't show him that just because you can

2032
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: afford it too, that really don't show me you ain't

2033
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 1: with me because of the access to the thing. The

2034
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 1: same way me buying you something shouldn't show you that

2035
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,639
Speaker 1: I love you. It needs to be in conjunction with

2036
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:36,719
Speaker 1: some You see what I'm saying. Right If I don't

2037
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 1: took time out my busy week and I don't put

2038
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 1: the rollses and made somebody come in here, get the

2039
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 1: rolls together. Man, we're going to get a villa out here.

2040
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm spending three days with her. Set it all up,

2041
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,839
Speaker 1: get the massus the shelf. I didn't really put that together,

2042
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 1: got you out there, got the bad really spend some

2043
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 1: time with you. Right then you appreciate that, like you

2044
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 1: know where that's coming from. Now on top that with

2045
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 1: the bag says yeah, but just that bag can't tell

2046
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: you that the same way that just you can afford that.

2047
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 1: Git yourself. Don't say that you ain't here because you

2048
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: want to get on the JIT or you want to

2049
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 1: with me, because this is how I'm really living. So

2050
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: the interactions, man, be so weird when you get the

2051
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 1: dating on a certain level, and I want to talk

2052
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:21,639
Speaker 1: to some of the people that got fame and power

2053
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: about just the dating scene. I know that the access

2054
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: the ones is hustling good. I really want to talk

2055
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 1: to them because I know that you can fall victim

2056
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 1: to the freak, right, you get access to everything you

2057
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 1: can dream of. Man, I'm telling me, if you won't

2058
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: folk girls a night, you can go for women a night. Man.

2059
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 1: Then you got the guys that reach out, reached down

2060
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 1: into like the You got the real celebrities, like the

2061
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 1: entertainer type celebrity that are reached down into the Internet

2062
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: celebrity world. Grab a gird, brain her up into the

2063
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 1: entertainment celebrity world. So now he got to worry is

2064
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 1: she there or he there? Because this happens on both sides.

2065
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 1: I only speak sometimes from the male perspective. I'm sorry

2066
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 1: to the women listening only because that's what I identified with.

2067
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 1: Right Even on the female side, sometimes the female celebrities

2068
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 1: are reached down into the Internet celebrity where grab somebody

2069
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 1: and pull them up. Now that's this weird dances. Is

2070
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: he here to try to get on love and hip hop?

2071
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 1: Is he here to try to just get on Badies

2072
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 1: or whatever one these little shows Zeus Network or whatever,

2073
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 1: some of these shows, it is he just here for

2074
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: that or she just here for that? And a lot

2075
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: of times you see people get in get around you work,

2076
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 1: they move and break off of you and then start

2077
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 1: talking crazy about you. Man, I never liked him. Man,

2078
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 1: he smoked cigarettes. He running around talking like you know

2079
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 1: they you know, they run off with whatever they experiences.

2080
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 1: Was the whole time they was collecting data and they

2081
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 1: was working the move. And I know that for people

2082
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 1: who may be on the outside of the industry, it

2083
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 1: might sound like what are you talking about? They were

2084
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: working to move like people getting these relationships, understanding that

2085
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 1: standing next to you give me a certain level of access.

2086
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 1: That's a whole different problem for someone that just came

2087
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 1: into fame because for a long time you won't be

2088
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 1: able to identify it to be bleury seeing that famous

2089
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: fake love at the highest level, and you have people

2090
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 1: screaming and hoiling your name everywhere you go. Someone has

2091
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: to explain to you that, a, this isn't real. These

2092
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 1: people really don't love you for real. And some of

2093
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: them got emotion towards you. They love the art you create,

2094
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: but loving you and loving what you produces two different things.

2095
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 1: And someone got to explain to people that, like, yo,

2096
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: they love your shoe, your boot, your glasses, your hat,

2097
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 1: your shirts, they don't love you, right and then you

2098
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 1: convince yourself that they love you until they don't love you.

2099
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 1: Some people understand that they have love from their fans

2100
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: and the people that's rocking with them, but they need

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01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 1: to understand what terms that love is there on. That

2102
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 1: love has been garnered and harnessed in a very specific way,

2103
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of times looking for a

2104
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 1: very specific thing. You have people that dance outside of that.

2105
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 1: But I'm speaking to the mass majority of people that

2106
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 1: run into fame, because you do. Once you get to

2107
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 1: tycoon and icon status, then you start to deal with

2108
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 1: people that's infatuation with your art has crossed over into love.

2109
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: And these are just my opinions. I think that when

2110
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 1: you're a superstar, you may get remblants of that. You

2111
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 1: may see that a little bit. I don't know, man,

2112
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,040
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it later, you know. But some of

2113
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 1: these things cross my mind, you know, And I tend

2114
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 1: to think about things sometimes and just I sham with

2115
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 1: y'all because we all a community, We all the same,

2116
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, So I try to share them with y'all

2117
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 1: and put y'all on top of what I'm thinking. Let's

2118
01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: talk about this. Teya's son was arrested. I wasn't gonna

2119
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: speak about it because you know, I really don't know

2120
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: how to feel about the young brothers that don't have

2121
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: to endure the kind of circumstances that they're trying to encounter.

2122
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable for me to see it. And for me,

2123
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 1: I got a certain level of frustration due to me

2124
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 1: not understanding the attempt. And I was gonna play the

2125
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 1: video of him getting out of jail, you know, but

2126
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 1: I didn't want to because for me, it says, Loan,

2127
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: you may be sheding light on what the young brother

2128
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 1: is trying to show in and for me, that's just

2129
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 1: not a good situation to place yourself in. I know

2130
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:46,200
Speaker 1: all about this, you know, I see it every day.

2131
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 1: So for those of you under what he was arrested

2132
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 1: for something, I'm not sure what it was. He got out,

2133
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 1: he went on Instagram show that he was arrested. Then

2134
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 1: when he got in the tub, like man, yeah, this

2135
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 1: is what I'm supposed to be doing. He'd be from

2136
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: a little DJ. The rappertis from my town, I know,

2137
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, me and his father no spoke, you know before,

2138
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 1: and so I see him out of time. I see

2139
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: what they're doing the Internet then responds to the rest like, man,

2140
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 1: why are you trying to play tough? Play street, play hard?

2141
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 1: He kind of grew up on TV with his father,

2142
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 1: and in my conversation with women, they've enlightened me and

2143
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 1: helped me understand that long he may be trying to

2144
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 1: be like his father. And sometimes they see the worst

2145
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 1: versions of us as the cool loss that time they've

2146
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 1: seen us chase to wrap it down and do something

2147
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 1: to him, or defending their mother in a way and

2148
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: have to knock somebody out, or got into a scuffle

2149
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: and happened to win because the dude slipped. You know,

2150
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 1: even though I'm getting older, I get down. You know,

2151
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 1: they look at father like that, they look at their

2152
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:52,839
Speaker 1: father like that. And again, sometimes they celebrate the worst

2153
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 1: versions of us. And that's because the worst versions of

2154
01:59:56,680 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: us look like what they see on TV and the

2155
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 1: and with the rappers. Right until they start seeing the

2156
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 1: rappers being fathers and next to their kids and upright

2157
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 1: and independent and going to church or whatever it is

2158
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 1: that they do to show that they are more than

2159
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 1: a killing machine. Then this is when we start to

2160
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:22,480
Speaker 1: soften the understanding of what it means to be an artist.

2161
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:25,600
Speaker 1: Even though he might have seen that from his dad,

2162
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 1: he probably dealt with because I think he was old

2163
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 1: enough to deal with TA. When he was at his peak,

2164
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 1: when he was as famous that he as he is

2165
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:38,879
Speaker 1: ever being riting, people were screaming at him, like I say, famous,

2166
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: fake love at the highest level. So he may have

2167
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: got confused with some of that, and like everybody loved

2168
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 1: my dad. Because he he will get his tune. He'll

2169
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 1: stand on this. This is his understanding because all the

2170
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 1: stories that the kids in the family gonna get out

2171
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,320
Speaker 1: of good stories, you know what I'm saying, until they

2172
02:00:59,320 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 1: get outside, and then people say, nine were the ones

2173
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 1: put that file your daddy, And if you're not careful

2174
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 1: with what your children consume, although you showed them the entrepreneur,

2175
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 1: the philanthropists and the father, they may have been stuck

2176
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:21,000
Speaker 1: on your past when you was a criminal, a convict,

2177
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 1: and a con man. You evolved right in front of

2178
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: their face. But they think people are celebrating you because

2179
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 1: what you did back then and how you did it.

2180
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,880
Speaker 1: And then sometimes you over here in the corner celebrating

2181
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: your glory talking about it, and they sitting there smile

2182
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:41,760
Speaker 1: and like you ain't even knowing that that you're playing

2183
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: season them. Because his reaction to going to jail lets

2184
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 1: me know he probably ain't never really been to jail,

2185
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 1: like really in jail. He know, I got money, I

2186
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:54,480
Speaker 1: got a father that's rich, and I got access. But

2187
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: after he was arrested, Ta came out and said this,

2188
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 1: I know myself. I think I ain't spoke to my son.

2189
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 1: I think I ain't told my son his mama and

2190
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:10,680
Speaker 1: the grandmama. He's acting the prison. If you got damn

2191
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 1: keep this up. That prison ain't no way around it.

2192
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing I'm gonna be able to do about it.

2193
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:20,600
Speaker 1: I can't nobody to stop it for him. Yeah, I

2194
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 1: mean I've already had the conversation. I've already made my

2195
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:27,280
Speaker 1: peace with it because I know that energy. I was

2196
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 1: that energy. I know it's actly has gonna ten out.

2197
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 1: You can't now go ahead, I mean the middle of something.

2198
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of someth' gonna go ahead. This

2199
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 1: is more important, go ahead, come on, thank you. I

2200
02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:46,920
Speaker 1: take it easy. Yeah, So I've not already had that

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02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 1: conversation with him. Man, King's a good kid chasing after

2202
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 1: the wrong, and you know, I trust in God to

2203
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:57,560
Speaker 1: deal with it the way that he see fit. You

2204
02:02:57,600 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It ain't really shot a side.

2205
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't got all the whippings, he didn't

2206
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 1: got the puny. He didn't did that, you know, you know,

2207
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 1: did everything as a child you could do to him.

2208
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 1: So now you're gonna have to You gonna have to

2209
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 1: go through it. You're gonna have to go through it

2210
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 1: and get through it. And ain't nothing me and Mama

2211
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 1: or nobody else gonna be able to say about it. Man,

2212
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:20,280
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna love him all the way through whatever

2213
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 1: it is he going through, you know what I mean? Uh?

2214
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, man, he gonna learn his listens. Life gonna

2215
02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 1: ain't know, you know what I mean. Life is gonna

2216
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 1: teach him all the listeners that he need to know.

2217
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: And that's the that's that's that's the most that we

2218
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 1: could do. That's the best we can ask for. I mean,

2219
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:42,440
Speaker 1: I know who he is at his core, you know

2220
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Did he trying to you know, he

2221
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 1: trying to convince himself of things, as we all do

2222
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: as young men and even young women growing up, trying

2223
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 1: to convince ourselves that we are certain things. And in

2224
02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:59,080
Speaker 1: that journey, we find that exactly who the we really is,

2225
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it happens when we

2226
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:05,720
Speaker 1: least expected, and our lessons come from where we didn't

2227
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 1: know they were coming from. And it just ain't and

2228
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: he shou to do he shout, man, time is gonna

2229
02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:18,200
Speaker 1: be his teacher, you know what I mean. So with

2230
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:21,280
Speaker 1: that being said, I hope everybody have a peaceful appreciate

2231
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 1: appreciate that, a peaceful and productive date. I can only

2232
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 1: imagine how he feels, only because you know what's on

2233
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 1: the other side. It leads me, like, Bro, I try

2234
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,360
Speaker 1: to tell man, like yo, Bro, don't play with that.

2235
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 1: You play with that. I'm guaranteeing you, boy, you're gonna

2236
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 1: go through somebody that's unnecessary or uncalled for, unforeseen, undefeated,

2237
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna go through somebody from with that. So I

2238
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: try to tell the man the other route, the other route,

2239
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 1: and you can keep it cool, called you got my blood?

2240
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:55,840
Speaker 1: Cool already? Yeah, you already cool. You'all ain't got the

2241
02:04:56,520 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 1: don't reach forward teach it. But as I tell y'all

2242
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 1: all the time, I think this is a classic case

2243
02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 1: of dealing with that street fame got some mon it

2244
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:08,840
Speaker 1: that the internet fame, that active fame, that celebrited ball

2245
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 1: player fame, all less cool. But that street fame got

2246
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 1: something on it. Now that rapped fame getting close to

2247
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:21,960
Speaker 1: that street fame because street turned rappers. Some of these

2248
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:24,960
Speaker 1: street guys don't turned into rabbers. So it's getting this

2249
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 1: fudging the lines. When you look at the young brother,

2250
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:34,080
Speaker 1: you say, damn, bro, fame ain't enough. Like you already

2251
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:36,480
Speaker 1: dud put you on TV. At a youngster, you got

2252
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:39,160
Speaker 1: the anything you need to work with what you need

2253
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 1: yet so like say you famous, are already homing, you rich,

2254
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 1: already your dad in position already, you ain't got to

2255
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:50,400
Speaker 1: reach for this. This is a you're like bro, you

2256
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,400
Speaker 1: you playing what you're doing. You're planning too aggressive on

2257
02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: the court, youngster, you keep trying to steal the ball

2258
02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:01,400
Speaker 1: when duding them down for the points. Let him take

2259
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:04,160
Speaker 1: a shout or two. You ain't got the press defense

2260
02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 1: fall back. You come out the gate up. So all

2261
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:12,760
Speaker 1: you got to do now it's hustle with what you got.

2262
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 1: But I think that they don't want to be in

2263
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:19,839
Speaker 1: their father's shadow. Sometimes you get too rich, like Joe Biden,

2264
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:22,880
Speaker 1: and this ain't this ain't tipping his son. But even

2265
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 1: Joe Biden and his son, they say his son looks

2266
02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:31,000
Speaker 1: at him and despises him. They said that Hunter Biden

2267
02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 1: had his father's name saved in his fallen is pedal

2268
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 1: Pete or some pedal Peter because when he checks in hotels,

2269
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 1: he would go under a different name, I think, like

2270
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:47,680
Speaker 1: Peter Pete Parker or something like that, so he wouldn't

2271
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 1: be bothered and things like that. So it just when

2272
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 1: what I'm speaking to it just the father's son relationship

2273
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 1: and how fame and riches are inserted in that and

2274
02:06:57,600 --> 02:07:01,200
Speaker 1: having to navigate around that. It's a very weird thing.

2275
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 1: This young brother right here got everything he need and

2276
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 1: his dad is still out there moving around. It ain't

2277
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 1: like his daddy in the old days. After your dad

2278
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:14,840
Speaker 1: became an artist and he fell off, he was worthless

2279
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 1: when he lost that voice of here. The hey, they

2280
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:20,880
Speaker 1: got him all way out to paint at least now

2281
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 1: someone like Tip who was dancing in the industry but

2282
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 1: kind of on the outskirts of music and dealing with

2283
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 1: like film and comedy and things like that. But he's

2284
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 1: still influential and can put you in a position I

2285
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 1: don't see why he's reaching for the streets. It's unfortunate, bro,

2286
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:44,000
Speaker 1: Like I just I don't know. For me, man, I pray,

2287
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:47,919
Speaker 1: and that's why you know, I gotta get financially structured

2288
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:50,680
Speaker 1: in a way where I can give my children much

2289
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 1: more time and structure so they can understand more than

2290
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 1: they understand even though I'm clear on those things. But

2291
02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:02,960
Speaker 1: there's more time that I need. But financially, I gotta

2292
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 1: be in a place because I gotta also provide a

2293
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 1: certain lifestyle, right, So um as we work on that. Man,

2294
02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 1: it's just when you see these things, you just look

2295
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:15,200
Speaker 1: at it like, man, damn, how do you deal with

2296
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:17,920
Speaker 1: your son when they start to act up? Because I

2297
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie my my thing. You say, what a man?

2298
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:25,160
Speaker 1: He can't stay here? Ah, he got it, Yeah, he

2299
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 1: now he that's my first mind. That's my first thing

2300
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 1: that happens in my brain. He tried to say, I'll

2301
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:34,960
Speaker 1: cut him off, and a lot of times with the mothers,

2302
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: they don't feel like that. She told him he needed

2303
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 1: to be in at a certain time. He come in

2304
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 1: when they be won. Then she still let him own

2305
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 1: in back in the day. Ain't no getting in, she said,

2306
02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 1: being for a certain time of dos locking the chain

2307
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 1: go on, and the chair goal against the dough at

2308
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:54,320
Speaker 1: a certain time. Now you ain't there, the warden thing

2309
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 1: go up against the dough at a certain time you

2310
02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:58,880
Speaker 1: ain't there, won't open the door at the eleven o'clock

2311
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 1: went open the door around him. And she stood on

2312
02:09:02,520 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 1: that because what she was teaching you is or bybe

2313
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:10,320
Speaker 1: by some rules for access to being comfortable, you know,

2314
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:13,000
Speaker 1: or bye by the rules of the land of the law.

2315
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm putting the law down and you gotta respect that.

2316
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:21,240
Speaker 1: Like so as women proposed that to me, like he

2317
02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 1: doesn't saw his dad to do this and do that.

2318
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 1: So and I'm looking at my son, and my son

2319
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 1: go get the hat like me, and he want to

2320
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:31,200
Speaker 1: get this like me, and my other son want to

2321
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 1: get the hat and do it. And I'm like, hey,

2322
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,720
Speaker 1: they paying attention. I ain't even putting them up on that.

2323
02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 1: I ain't even saying, yo, what you want to do

2324
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 1: is go get your hat and master the hat with

2325
02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 1: the dadda and put the They said, oh daddy doing

2326
02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:47,000
Speaker 1: that that when I'm doing because if all is fails,

2327
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:50,360
Speaker 1: if I just look like him, I be cool. You

2328
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, this is how they look at you.

2329
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:54,280
Speaker 1: If I just do what Daddy do, I be cool.

2330
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:58,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes not being as a father. This is where the

2331
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 1: argument comes in that is it better being as as

2332
02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:07,440
Speaker 1: a father or absent as a father because what they

2333
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:10,680
Speaker 1: see and influence them to be what they shouldn't be.

2334
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 1: But you being there and they being influenced by you

2335
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:16,680
Speaker 1: sleeping on the couch every day, how does that translate

2336
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 1: the help in the kid? If you stay there and

2337
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 1: they see you up on mama every day, take out

2338
02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: or the juices, eat all the food, don't never leave,

2339
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 1: don't wash clothes, don't clean up, just sit there all

2340
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,880
Speaker 1: they do nothing. What does that do for the child?

2341
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 1: But that's a very rough conversation because access to the

2342
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 1: child and access to the environment that the child is

2343
02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:44,080
Speaker 1: in its two different things. So you can't trick me

2344
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,960
Speaker 1: by saying what Lord damn you're saying. Now, I'm saying

2345
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 1: that direct influence owned though some is goodness from a father.

2346
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because if you lay up

2347
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 1: under that child, that child really go to see the

2348
02:11:00,360 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 1: dad and don't do nothing. Now today he just be chilling.

2349
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:07,320
Speaker 1: Then he goes steal or something get us a pass shoe. See,

2350
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:09,240
Speaker 1: they don't know who'll that when you just show up

2351
02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: with the pass shoe. So again, I don't really know

2352
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:15,560
Speaker 1: how to feel about that. But what I do know

2353
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:19,520
Speaker 1: is they take that argument, or not necessarily that, but

2354
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 1: something of that sort. They'll take something of that sort

2355
02:11:25,320 --> 02:11:28,000
Speaker 1: in regards to that conversation and use that for an

2356
02:11:28,080 --> 02:11:30,600
Speaker 1: argument of it. Well, that's why we send the money.

2357
02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 1: We don't want the mail around. I also ain't with that.

2358
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:37,360
Speaker 1: So that's somethinghere. What they got to meet that, And

2359
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think we need to ask some

2360
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:42,880
Speaker 1: experts on here to kind of speak further to that.

2361
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. Joe Budden went on, be Marshal,

2362
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:50,480
Speaker 1: I am an athlete. Shout out to be Marshal Up.

2363
02:11:50,560 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 1: Y'all know that's my guy. He's someone that has helped

2364
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 1: me understand certain parts of the business that I may

2365
02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:59,680
Speaker 1: not have understood. I've been on calls with w and

2366
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 1: me with him. I've been on calls with ads and

2367
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:08,560
Speaker 1: big six figure ad plays and being instrumental and you know,

2368
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:11,760
Speaker 1: just being involved in behind the scenes things and seeing

2369
02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:15,600
Speaker 1: how he navigates and for me at the very early stages,

2370
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 1: that helps and then helps in a way that I

2371
02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:23,320
Speaker 1: probably could never speak to, you know, because being so

2372
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:25,600
Speaker 1: new in this game and trying to just figure out

2373
02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 1: how to make money off the influence, how to make

2374
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:32,680
Speaker 1: money after the visibility, what's happening with this thing right,

2375
02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:36,080
Speaker 1: how to really capitalize on it. It's so important that

2376
02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 1: I have guys like b Marshall, you know, you know,

2377
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:44,160
Speaker 1: people like Pete coach k you know, people like my

2378
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:48,480
Speaker 1: people that revote, you know, people like even Joe Budden, Charlemaine,

2379
02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:52,320
Speaker 1: Chad and Richard and earn your leisure. You know, people

2380
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 1: that I can just reach out to and just like, man,

2381
02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about this, Braun, really know what's you know,

2382
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:00,840
Speaker 1: and they give me some game and help me kind

2383
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 1: of try to navigate it. I think, would this be

2384
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 1: Marshall situation? I know more than he's saying. I'm gonna

2385
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:11,320
Speaker 1: say that, but I would never speak on no conversation

2386
02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:13,640
Speaker 1: that I have behind the scenes. Be Marshall kind of

2387
02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 1: has never spoke on it in public. So this circumstance

2388
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:20,480
Speaker 1: here with Joe Buddon, I dis figure from a production standpoint,

2389
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 1: they felt this would be a good opportunity. Both of

2390
02:13:22,760 --> 02:13:25,440
Speaker 1: these guys been through the same thing. We're trying to

2391
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 1: create magic with these two guys sitting next to each

2392
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:30,440
Speaker 1: other and kind of getting into that bag or what

2393
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:33,480
Speaker 1: it's like the lossest, the ups, the downs, the moving in,

2394
02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:37,360
Speaker 1: the moving out, the moving of co host, maintaining of

2395
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:42,960
Speaker 1: your audience, the sponsorships to ads. How effective or ineffective

2396
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:47,240
Speaker 1: was the fall? Because sometimes you fall and it does

2397
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 1: you good. Sometimes you fall and you duck a bullet.

2398
02:13:53,480 --> 02:13:56,280
Speaker 1: So I could see what they thought this was going,

2399
02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:58,800
Speaker 1: and for me, they did a great job. But I

2400
02:13:58,920 --> 02:14:01,280
Speaker 1: know they'd be marshall and speak on a lot of things.

2401
02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:03,520
Speaker 1: But let's listen to a little bit of it and

2402
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:05,920
Speaker 1: then we'll give some game on what's going on. Where

2403
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:07,840
Speaker 1: would you be? Where would a network be? Because we

2404
02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:12,000
Speaker 1: talked about your park cast, but really, Joe Buttons a network.

2405
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:15,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you bringing others along, which

2406
02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:17,760
Speaker 1: is why I always, you know, study you from afar end.

2407
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:20,760
Speaker 1: Also I hit you up at times for advice. Where

2408
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:24,400
Speaker 1: would you guys be if y'all stayed together? Another one

2409
02:14:24,440 --> 02:14:30,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even answer myself. I guess where would we

2410
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 1: be if we stayed together and we were at our

2411
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:37,120
Speaker 1: greatest in our greatest form. That's how I hear that question.

2412
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:39,000
Speaker 1: And the truth of that is it wasn't that for

2413
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,560
Speaker 1: a little while, and then you got to go through

2414
02:14:41,560 --> 02:14:46,400
Speaker 1: trying to mask that publicly. And that's back to people

2415
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 1: having their own visions and how to do this, how

2416
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:50,520
Speaker 1: they want it to go, how they wanted to feel,

2417
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:53,720
Speaker 1: what deal you should take, what deal you shouldn't take,

2418
02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 1: how you should go without it's just too many chefs,

2419
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:01,640
Speaker 1: too many chefs. So we went through that for a

2420
02:15:01,680 --> 02:15:05,080
Speaker 1: little while. And it's tough because when you start working

2421
02:15:05,080 --> 02:15:08,640
Speaker 1: with your friends sometimes you speak less on the friendship side,

2422
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:13,080
Speaker 1: like we're just working, We're get into it now. Some

2423
02:15:13,160 --> 02:15:18,600
Speaker 1: of that communication fades. With that trust fades, some other

2424
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:22,320
Speaker 1: things start to fade. You've watched a friendship deteriorate, but

2425
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:25,839
Speaker 1: now you're at work again. So for those of your unaware,

2426
02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:31,240
Speaker 1: Joe Button had a totally deaf friend group prior to

2427
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:33,760
Speaker 1: Ish and Ice that you see now, which I think

2428
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:37,600
Speaker 1: have transferred and transcend it what we thought they would

2429
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:40,520
Speaker 1: be at this point. He had a guy named Rory,

2430
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:43,000
Speaker 1: guy named Maul. They actually have their own podcast that

2431
02:15:43,120 --> 02:15:45,800
Speaker 1: signed The Serious. I think they're doing pretty good as well,

2432
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:50,120
Speaker 1: great interviews coming out. But his ability to put those

2433
02:15:50,160 --> 02:15:53,360
Speaker 1: two people in places. What he's speaking to, God has

2434
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:56,040
Speaker 1: a whole other plan for everybody. That's why I say

2435
02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:59,720
Speaker 1: it's important that everybody landed on their feet, because, yeah,

2436
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:03,640
Speaker 1: what they're doing, I want them to do, like, go on,

2437
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:06,920
Speaker 1: you go feel what it's like. When I was in

2438
02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:09,200
Speaker 1: Jersey City rapping on mixtapes, I was on a clue table.

2439
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:10,920
Speaker 1: I thought I was rich. I was broke. It wasn't

2440
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:13,040
Speaker 1: those singles, it wasn't no nothing. But when I went

2441
02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:17,200
Speaker 1: back to the hood, boy the start, I was the

2442
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:20,760
Speaker 1: littlest in the world. They thought I had it. So

2443
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:23,840
Speaker 1: then when I wasn't giving back like they thought I

2444
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:28,280
Speaker 1: should because you had, they thought you had some feelings

2445
02:16:28,280 --> 02:16:30,960
Speaker 1: grew there and what I used to YO every time

2446
02:16:31,000 --> 02:16:33,000
Speaker 1: I hear somebody say that now I know. I had

2447
02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:35,520
Speaker 1: a clip that went viral a couple of months ago

2448
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:39,400
Speaker 1: when I was talking about how rappers they evolve indoor

2449
02:16:39,640 --> 02:16:42,360
Speaker 1: rappers and people some of my fans listening gonna say,

2450
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:45,400
Speaker 1: I remember that, but that's so impactful. Then you hit

2451
02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:49,680
Speaker 1: people start they explain how they misrepresented their wealth and

2452
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:53,199
Speaker 1: got themselves in that situation. But we don't take credit

2453
02:16:53,240 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 1: for nothing. There's nothing new under the sun. What happens

2454
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:58,840
Speaker 1: is we just hit the inspire, evolve and feed our

2455
02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:03,000
Speaker 1: family five years eighty million dollars. But like there's a

2456
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:05,440
Speaker 1: certain amount that you really get in the eighty million.

2457
02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:07,280
Speaker 1: Probably not gonna see that, you know what I'm saying.

2458
02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:09,560
Speaker 1: So everybody got way more money to have and we

2459
02:17:09,640 --> 02:17:13,720
Speaker 1: all can't go Sure, family friends and all that, but like, hey,

2460
02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:17,120
Speaker 1: my boys, I grew up with right when you invest

2461
02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:20,440
Speaker 1: your time and your energy and some and I'll take it.

2462
02:17:20,640 --> 02:17:22,000
Speaker 1: Let me not even do that, let me not get

2463
02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:26,920
Speaker 1: my little PC answer. Uncut. We need to uncut. We

2464
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:29,280
Speaker 1: need to Joe that put the megos off the stage,

2465
02:17:29,320 --> 02:17:35,600
Speaker 1: though not the one that's doing the red carpet SI answer.

2466
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:38,280
Speaker 1: This is what I had to learn, and I can't

2467
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:43,959
Speaker 1: speak for anybody else's situation. For me, I was kind

2468
02:17:43,959 --> 02:17:46,280
Speaker 1: of the land I've said this before. I was kind

2469
02:17:46,280 --> 02:17:48,360
Speaker 1: of the last one to know that my friends were

2470
02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:51,200
Speaker 1: looking at me in a way that wasn't friendly. Like

2471
02:17:52,720 --> 02:17:56,920
Speaker 1: it was boss and my new crew. They joked like that, right,

2472
02:17:57,040 --> 02:17:59,520
Speaker 1: like they say, Yo, no you're the boss, just your

2473
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:03,720
Speaker 1: what you say. Go. Let's take a little trip down

2474
02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:07,560
Speaker 1: memory lane with Joe Budden and the Joe Budden Podcast

2475
02:18:07,640 --> 02:18:10,440
Speaker 1: with Rory and Mall. They were in a situation where

2476
02:18:10,480 --> 02:18:13,320
Speaker 1: they had a Spotify deal. That Spotify deal was coming

2477
02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:16,560
Speaker 1: to its end. There was a negotiation that happened that

2478
02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:19,640
Speaker 1: Joe Budden went in and done, and I think at

2479
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:22,480
Speaker 1: that time it was new information for Rory and Mall

2480
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:27,640
Speaker 1: that there's no deal with Joe Budden, there's no deal

2481
02:18:27,680 --> 02:18:30,760
Speaker 1: with Spotify Joe, Rory and Mall. There's a deal with

2482
02:18:30,840 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 1: Spotify and Joe, and then there's a deal with Rory

2483
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 1: and Mall and Joe. And if that isn't what they

2484
02:18:37,400 --> 02:18:40,279
Speaker 1: believed to be the case, this is what they found

2485
02:18:40,280 --> 02:18:43,960
Speaker 1: out at this particular time. So when he's reporting back

2486
02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:46,680
Speaker 1: what the circumstances are and what the splitzer looked like,

2487
02:18:46,800 --> 02:18:49,680
Speaker 1: and they're probably comfortable with taking that because they come

2488
02:18:49,720 --> 02:18:52,960
Speaker 1: from not being in the same position that Joe was

2489
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:55,320
Speaker 1: coming off for probably the best two or three years

2490
02:18:55,360 --> 02:18:58,800
Speaker 1: of his career in life, they probably wanted to move

2491
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:01,600
Speaker 1: forward with that deal. Without moving forward with that deal,

2492
02:19:01,720 --> 02:19:04,840
Speaker 1: Joe Budden wanted to roll the dice with that current crew.

2493
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:10,400
Speaker 1: He felt so comfortable with that current roster that he

2494
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:15,440
Speaker 1: said that money because I think moving back that three

2495
02:19:15,520 --> 02:19:18,039
Speaker 1: years would already been gone now and he'll be probably

2496
02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:20,600
Speaker 1: rent up for another whatever it is. And he if

2497
02:19:20,640 --> 02:19:23,680
Speaker 1: he made more than thirty forty million, good, but it

2498
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:26,879
Speaker 1: would have kept that in place. Now he spent out

2499
02:19:26,920 --> 02:19:29,000
Speaker 1: and landing on his feet, which is good, but we'll

2500
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:31,640
Speaker 1: deal with that in a second. At that particular time,

2501
02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:35,959
Speaker 1: I think that those guys were wanting to ride with him,

2502
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:39,119
Speaker 1: like I could. We ride, and he went and got

2503
02:19:39,120 --> 02:19:42,360
Speaker 1: a deal with Patreon, and it was this thing that happened,

2504
02:19:42,440 --> 02:19:46,119
Speaker 1: right And even though conversation long before it's been about

2505
02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:48,840
Speaker 1: a counting all these things in that move right there.

2506
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:50,879
Speaker 1: I just think they felt a certain way he had

2507
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:53,880
Speaker 1: up their pay. He had raised their pay got him

2508
02:19:53,959 --> 02:19:57,200
Speaker 1: some splits, but they were looking towards some different They

2509
02:19:57,240 --> 02:20:00,360
Speaker 1: couldn't come to a head in regards to a contract tally.

2510
02:20:00,959 --> 02:20:05,280
Speaker 1: And the friendship now had been tampered with because people

2511
02:20:05,320 --> 02:20:10,439
Speaker 1: have had conversations where they felt like they were disrespected

2512
02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:12,520
Speaker 1: in ways that they may or may not could come

2513
02:20:12,520 --> 02:20:15,160
Speaker 1: back from. But there needs to be some separation for

2514
02:20:15,280 --> 02:20:18,440
Speaker 1: healing to take place. And because of the way the

2515
02:20:18,520 --> 02:20:21,199
Speaker 1: business is set up, we gotta come in keep seeing

2516
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:24,680
Speaker 1: each other there's no separation for us to even heal

2517
02:20:24,800 --> 02:20:27,000
Speaker 1: from what we were going through nine months ago, and

2518
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:30,360
Speaker 1: this is his current crew. So then it explodes. Joe

2519
02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:34,040
Speaker 1: Button then does a podcast kind of addressing the situation,

2520
02:20:34,760 --> 02:20:37,360
Speaker 1: putting it on Front Street, blowing it up. Really, I

2521
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:39,160
Speaker 1: don't think it was a good idea when we look

2522
02:20:39,240 --> 02:20:42,720
Speaker 1: back at it, but boy was good content. I enjoyed it.

2523
02:20:42,720 --> 02:20:46,560
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from that interaction, right. I enjoyed

2524
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:50,080
Speaker 1: his speaking to how he felt in the moment without

2525
02:20:50,200 --> 02:20:53,000
Speaker 1: speaking to everything he felt in the moment. It was

2526
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:55,280
Speaker 1: like a little dance he was trying to do and

2527
02:20:55,320 --> 02:20:58,279
Speaker 1: he was he was hot because they, in his opinion,

2528
02:20:58,280 --> 02:21:01,320
Speaker 1: they left him out. It was over and they appearing

2529
02:21:01,640 --> 02:21:03,760
Speaker 1: you can't do it without us. We're pulling out on you.

2530
02:21:03,959 --> 02:21:06,920
Speaker 1: And I always tell people we judge people by their intentions,

2531
02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:09,440
Speaker 1: So what was the intentions there? Was it to drown it,

2532
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:12,160
Speaker 1: but he grabbed ish and Ice put them in position.

2533
02:21:12,320 --> 02:21:15,240
Speaker 1: It was rough for a while. You know. I always said,

2534
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:18,320
Speaker 1: it's is where he's going to have an opportunity because

2535
02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:21,560
Speaker 1: it's is an a mic type of personality. He's gonna

2536
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:23,240
Speaker 1: have to fit in the show in a way that's

2537
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:26,600
Speaker 1: still effective and he still wrestles with that. And I

2538
02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:30,760
Speaker 1: just saw that with the Adam twenty two interview, right

2539
02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:32,840
Speaker 1: he still is trying to really wrestle with how to

2540
02:21:32,920 --> 02:21:36,520
Speaker 1: fit ith in this thing and you know, make points

2541
02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:39,000
Speaker 1: and be on the same page and just part together.

2542
02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:42,720
Speaker 1: And I see that in real time. Joe buddon podcast

2543
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 1: was like number one or two on Spotify for a

2544
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:50,320
Speaker 1: while years. You know, they would never over Rogan. Rogan's

2545
02:21:50,360 --> 02:21:52,400
Speaker 1: always been up there. I was looking at Rogan the

2546
02:21:52,440 --> 02:21:56,240
Speaker 1: other day. He don't even have no presence on YouTube.

2547
02:21:56,360 --> 02:21:58,640
Speaker 1: Maybe one or two clips a week, which is not

2548
02:21:58,760 --> 02:22:01,800
Speaker 1: a presence on YouTube for someone as big as Roken.

2549
02:22:02,200 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 1: He went live the other day and had sixty eight

2550
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:11,720
Speaker 1: thousand people in the live on YouTube on a monetized platform.

2551
02:22:11,760 --> 02:22:14,720
Speaker 1: But that's another conversation. We'll get back to this. But

2552
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:16,840
Speaker 1: I want to make an announcement. I am changing the

2553
02:22:16,959 --> 02:22:19,920
Speaker 1: name of this too. It's up there. The experience. That's

2554
02:22:19,959 --> 02:22:22,720
Speaker 1: just that on that. But let's listen to a little

2555
02:22:22,720 --> 02:22:28,320
Speaker 1: bit more. But after those emotions passed like mine, I

2556
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:31,359
Speaker 1: understand how everybody could feel that way, and I understand

2557
02:22:31,440 --> 02:22:34,800
Speaker 1: why y'all made some of the decisions y'all made in hindsight,

2558
02:22:35,800 --> 02:22:39,800
Speaker 1: thankful that this worked out for me. Y'all. Everybody don't

2559
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:42,359
Speaker 1: have to be offended. But when it was emotional, that's

2560
02:22:42,440 --> 02:22:44,240
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like I was going to therapy with it.

2561
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't play with therapy. I don't play with mental health.

2562
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:53,760
Speaker 1: I cherish it differently than some people. So when we

2563
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:57,320
Speaker 1: start going to therapy, like when I'm calling my therapists

2564
02:22:57,400 --> 02:23:02,360
Speaker 1: up to sit down and get to the court. Yeah,

2565
02:23:02,440 --> 02:23:06,400
Speaker 1: And it's just like you using it like a tactic,

2566
02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:10,720
Speaker 1: like a negotiating tactic, like saying, anybody did that? But

2567
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:14,199
Speaker 1: I felt like that at one point. Just to speak

2568
02:23:14,200 --> 02:23:17,440
Speaker 1: to that for a second, I think there's this thing

2569
02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:20,160
Speaker 1: that the human being does man when he gets hurt,

2570
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,400
Speaker 1: in which it kind of puts the blinder zone and

2571
02:23:23,480 --> 02:23:29,840
Speaker 1: it only can reveal to itself its own effort. Because

2572
02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:32,600
Speaker 1: if you think about that and you say, well, yo,

2573
02:23:33,879 --> 02:23:36,039
Speaker 1: Joe was saying, yo, man, we don't do it like that.

2574
02:23:36,160 --> 02:23:38,120
Speaker 1: I take you to therapy, dog, And you can't be

2575
02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:41,400
Speaker 1: using that as a tactic. That ain't real. We don't

2576
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:46,000
Speaker 1: get out like that. Who does that. But on the

2577
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,360
Speaker 1: other side, you can be dealing with someone that's saying,

2578
02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:50,880
Speaker 1: many dude, taking me to therapy. Many dude trying to

2579
02:23:50,920 --> 02:23:54,480
Speaker 1: run a tactic on me, and he taking me to

2580
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:56,760
Speaker 1: his therapist that he talks to. He know how to

2581
02:23:56,760 --> 02:23:59,480
Speaker 1: communicate with man, Come home, man, it's a tactic. So

2582
02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:02,720
Speaker 1: here it is we already dealing with a broken relationship

2583
02:24:03,080 --> 02:24:05,600
Speaker 1: that we already feel like being tempered with. So how

2584
02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:08,320
Speaker 1: to We're gonna go see your therapist. I might thank

2585
02:24:08,360 --> 02:24:11,760
Speaker 1: you pulling the stunt. So we got two people thank

2586
02:24:11,800 --> 02:24:14,000
Speaker 1: you pulling the start walking in the building like it's

2587
02:24:14,040 --> 02:24:17,800
Speaker 1: all good, you know. And that's what he means when

2588
02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:21,120
Speaker 1: he say the relationship was broken to a point where

2589
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:24,000
Speaker 1: they couldn't figure out how to get it back on track.

2590
02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:27,760
Speaker 1: And sometimes when things break, man, they're just broke into

2591
02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:31,160
Speaker 1: a thousand pieces. It's better to sweep it up than

2592
02:24:31,200 --> 02:24:34,080
Speaker 1: to put it back together. But coming up here, we

2593
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:37,800
Speaker 1: got a very important part, Paul. Here's what Oldmark Kelly

2594
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:41,680
Speaker 1: shout out. Oldmar big journalist vibes over there taking care

2595
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:45,000
Speaker 1: of business. He's a producer for the show they were

2596
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:48,320
Speaker 1: talking about, the Pivot. Pivot is the show that Channing

2597
02:24:48,400 --> 02:24:51,800
Speaker 1: and Fred went to the spun off when they left

2598
02:24:51,879 --> 02:24:54,160
Speaker 1: I Am Athlete. They've been over there getting some big

2599
02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:58,160
Speaker 1: names and doing a great job until they were trying

2600
02:24:58,200 --> 02:25:00,520
Speaker 1: to address the break up, and they want it be

2601
02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:03,959
Speaker 1: Marsha to kind of get into what happened. And this

2602
02:25:04,040 --> 02:25:10,680
Speaker 1: is what old mare from a producer standpoint. So and yeah,

2603
02:25:10,720 --> 02:25:13,119
Speaker 1: you wasn't gonna get the best Joe in that instance

2604
02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:15,600
Speaker 1: because you play them. You're wasting my time, like I

2605
02:25:15,640 --> 02:25:20,439
Speaker 1: got to do y'all around like pussy putting around the conversation,

2606
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:25,520
Speaker 1: say the pivot, let's go, come on, But the whole

2607
02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:30,640
Speaker 1: time I'm talking for even addressing if somebody's just watching it,

2608
02:25:30,720 --> 02:25:34,240
Speaker 1: watching this for the first time, Oh, they don't know

2609
02:25:34,280 --> 02:25:36,119
Speaker 1: who we're talking about. Yeah, but I'm trying to sit

2610
02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:38,400
Speaker 1: back because I, yeah, I'm not. I don't need to

2611
02:25:38,560 --> 02:25:44,920
Speaker 1: lead the conversation. I got you be his first day

2612
02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:48,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I took him out. That's how far

2613
02:25:48,320 --> 02:25:51,360
Speaker 1: we go back, Right, I got the tape, I got

2614
02:25:51,440 --> 02:25:55,560
Speaker 1: all the evidence. I'm gonna be around forever, house athlete.

2615
02:25:55,600 --> 02:25:59,400
Speaker 1: I am athlete with all that before I was married.

2616
02:25:59,400 --> 02:26:02,879
Speaker 1: I'm it don't matter. I heard it from both sides, right,

2617
02:26:05,480 --> 02:26:10,560
Speaker 1: And as I look at the situation, I think there

2618
02:26:10,600 --> 02:26:15,280
Speaker 1: was a lack of communication, right, Right, So once it

2619
02:26:15,400 --> 02:26:22,680
Speaker 1: became a lack of communication between you Channing Fred. I

2620
02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:25,200
Speaker 1: think that's when the emotions started to fuel it. No,

2621
02:26:26,040 --> 02:26:28,720
Speaker 1: don't ask me that, wrec asked me. There was no

2622
02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:32,160
Speaker 1: There was no lack of communication. There was over there

2623
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:35,160
Speaker 1: was I was over communication. And we all put in

2624
02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:38,720
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand dollars right, that was Reggis before Ocho.

2625
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:41,600
Speaker 1: If we all put in thirty five thousand dollars, yo,

2626
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:44,640
Speaker 1: we could bust it down four ways. I was talking

2627
02:26:44,640 --> 02:26:47,480
Speaker 1: like brothers, like that's how we talked, because I think

2628
02:26:47,959 --> 02:26:49,800
Speaker 1: the focus for me was at the time, I wanted

2629
02:26:49,800 --> 02:26:52,440
Speaker 1: to sell a show. Like I'm sitting there, Bro, I'm

2630
02:26:52,440 --> 02:26:55,640
Speaker 1: sitting there watching ESPN, Like this is my passion house

2631
02:26:55,680 --> 02:26:58,720
Speaker 1: of athlete wellness, mental health. Was you talking about facility?

2632
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:00,959
Speaker 1: That's a studio to me? And then I'm looking around

2633
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:03,920
Speaker 1: me and Channing Crowder sitting there, and we at my

2634
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:06,800
Speaker 1: somebody's birthday at my crib, and we got to a

2635
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:09,480
Speaker 1: place in the pandemic where we was comfortable to have

2636
02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:12,240
Speaker 1: people over me and Channing sitting in the front yard

2637
02:27:12,240 --> 02:27:14,480
Speaker 1: in the driveway and I'm sitting in. All of our

2638
02:27:14,560 --> 02:27:17,119
Speaker 1: babies is running out in the drive They running and playing.

2639
02:27:17,560 --> 02:27:19,760
Speaker 1: I look at Bro, one of my all time favorite teammates.

2640
02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:23,120
Speaker 1: I said, damn, he's sore. He amazing. Channing Crowder is

2641
02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:26,680
Speaker 1: an amazing And I look at Bro, I said, damn, Bro,

2642
02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:29,760
Speaker 1: like what you do a podcast? He said, yeah, Bro,

2643
02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:33,279
Speaker 1: rock with you say say no more. I'm not communicated

2644
02:27:33,280 --> 02:27:35,000
Speaker 1: at this time. Like what I'm thinking, like how they're

2645
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:37,560
Speaker 1: gonna come together? You know, I haven't said anything. I

2646
02:27:38,280 --> 02:27:42,200
Speaker 1: tried to take the Hot Road Puffies deal with Clive Davis.

2647
02:27:42,680 --> 02:27:48,920
Speaker 1: Clive Davis gave Puffy fifty million to bring bad Boy

2648
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:54,000
Speaker 1: to what it is right now. Bro, it's probably even

2649
02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:57,440
Speaker 1: more now. They got a half a billion record sold.

2650
02:27:59,440 --> 02:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Two jay Z did a deal with Live Nation Nation,

2651
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:06,640
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty million dollars deal. Jay Z

2652
02:28:06,680 --> 02:28:11,119
Speaker 1: turned that hundred and fifty into one point four billion. Biggie.

2653
02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:13,360
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, so like you gotta

2654
02:28:13,480 --> 02:28:17,840
Speaker 1: you know this, you gotta move a certain way, yo.

2655
02:28:17,959 --> 02:28:20,560
Speaker 1: I can see B Marshall, I know B Marshall man,

2656
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:23,120
Speaker 1: and I know he would hurt by this stuff. Like

2657
02:28:23,240 --> 02:28:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't really know the ends and ouncing all perspectives

2658
02:28:25,959 --> 02:28:28,080
Speaker 1: of it, but I knew I do know things. That's

2659
02:28:28,120 --> 02:28:31,280
Speaker 1: really not being spoke about, and its like I know

2660
02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:35,560
Speaker 1: when it happened, he would hurt, and he would hurt

2661
02:28:35,600 --> 02:28:37,520
Speaker 1: it in the way that Bro, we were riding at

2662
02:28:37,560 --> 02:28:40,520
Speaker 1: two in the morning, like he was taking me to

2663
02:28:40,680 --> 02:28:46,800
Speaker 1: like famous people houses and rich people houses and just like, Bro,

2664
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:49,200
Speaker 1: this is gonna be you in a minute, just manifest

2665
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:52,280
Speaker 1: this and we would just talk about how he manifested

2666
02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:54,160
Speaker 1: and what he would think. He would show me old

2667
02:28:54,280 --> 02:28:56,959
Speaker 1: videos and what he was feeling before he'd even took

2668
02:28:57,040 --> 02:28:59,840
Speaker 1: off it just search so I know when it happened,

2669
02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:02,600
Speaker 1: evil feeling. I think at some point them guys will

2670
02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:06,720
Speaker 1: probably be able to have a conversation about what has happened.

2671
02:29:06,760 --> 02:29:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure. Maybe if the other side,

2672
02:29:09,080 --> 02:29:11,120
Speaker 1: I feel like they went in there and never sit down.

2673
02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:12,879
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I don't know how that go.

2674
02:29:13,400 --> 02:29:15,840
Speaker 1: And he's basically speaking to how he's trying to move

2675
02:29:15,879 --> 02:29:19,760
Speaker 1: around the industry and navigate to capitalize in a way

2676
02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:22,760
Speaker 1: that he can really affect the market and bring in

2677
02:29:22,840 --> 02:29:25,840
Speaker 1: some real capital. He mentioned did it and Jay, you know,

2678
02:29:25,879 --> 02:29:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention Pete bird Man, Kanye people like that

2679
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:32,200
Speaker 1: as well. In that list. You know, he spoke about

2680
02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:35,160
Speaker 1: how they got their chicks and move a certain way.

2681
02:29:36,760 --> 02:29:39,160
Speaker 1: One thing I know about the greats and most guys

2682
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:42,640
Speaker 1: that we mentioned amongst those kind of names, is like

2683
02:29:42,680 --> 02:29:44,880
Speaker 1: when you look at Didda, you get a big marriage

2684
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:47,200
Speaker 1: that you get all these kind of people that come

2685
02:29:47,240 --> 02:29:49,560
Speaker 1: from that. You look at a Jay, you know, you

2686
02:29:49,600 --> 02:29:51,400
Speaker 1: get a Yeah, you get a Rihanna, and you get

2687
02:29:51,440 --> 02:29:57,879
Speaker 1: these things. Right, what happens is they produce millionaires, you produce. Basically,

2688
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:01,840
Speaker 1: the question is how powerful is your look home isn't it?

2689
02:30:01,879 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 1: And not love home is in terms of being disrespectful.

2690
02:30:05,120 --> 02:30:09,119
Speaker 1: Love Home is in terms I just got here, photom,

2691
02:30:09,160 --> 02:30:12,080
Speaker 1: I just got to this status, this placed before them.

2692
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:14,440
Speaker 1: That's why you're here. Kanye be like, yo, he's the

2693
02:30:14,520 --> 02:30:17,160
Speaker 1: big homie speaking about Jay no matter if he got

2694
02:30:17,200 --> 02:30:20,000
Speaker 1: more money than Jay, because it ain't. It ain't even

2695
02:30:20,040 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 1: about that. It was he was there first and blessed

2696
02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:25,760
Speaker 1: us in how many successful black people can you create?

2697
02:30:26,320 --> 02:30:28,760
Speaker 1: And as they speak about the deal, what I'm hearing

2698
02:30:28,959 --> 02:30:32,040
Speaker 1: is b Marshall was trying to create shows and certain

2699
02:30:32,080 --> 02:30:34,280
Speaker 1: things for what he felt like was gonna be the

2700
02:30:34,360 --> 02:30:38,760
Speaker 1: network moving forward. But now just looking at you, I

2701
02:30:38,760 --> 02:30:41,640
Speaker 1: don't know about him. They're like, wait, huh. I don't

2702
02:30:41,680 --> 02:30:46,800
Speaker 1: know how long we've been in every relationship. Right, when

2703
02:30:46,800 --> 02:30:50,560
Speaker 1: there's a break up, you would have head in your situation, right,

2704
02:30:50,879 --> 02:30:55,560
Speaker 1: you would have head in your situation. So there is

2705
02:30:55,640 --> 02:31:00,720
Speaker 1: also something on you as well, right, looking back at it,

2706
02:31:01,560 --> 02:31:06,320
Speaker 1: the situation, what could you have done differently? Right? Because

2707
02:31:06,480 --> 02:31:09,280
Speaker 1: it's simple, it's simple. First off, I didn't know what

2708
02:31:09,320 --> 02:31:13,920
Speaker 1: the I was doing. I was calling Joe. That's why

2709
02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:16,800
Speaker 1: Joe here, Bro like, I was calling Joe. Like, Bro,

2710
02:31:16,879 --> 02:31:19,120
Speaker 1: you've been through this already. Got tears in my eyes

2711
02:31:19,160 --> 02:31:24,400
Speaker 1: thinking about this. He no, twelve thirty one in the morning, bro, Like, yeah,

2712
02:31:24,440 --> 02:31:28,560
Speaker 1: he no more. Seriously bro leaving the strip club coming

2713
02:31:28,600 --> 02:31:30,240
Speaker 1: up to talk to me, Bro, walk me through this?

2714
02:31:30,280 --> 02:31:32,120
Speaker 1: How should I be? This is what they offered me.

2715
02:31:32,320 --> 02:31:34,280
Speaker 1: What you think? No, don't do that, dude. This boom

2716
02:31:34,320 --> 02:31:38,800
Speaker 1: boom boom, noriega the same thing. Okay, So but basically

2717
02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:42,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying though, is this, I didn't know. I

2718
02:31:42,080 --> 02:31:45,320
Speaker 1: came as a homie, as a brother. Yo, we can

2719
02:31:45,400 --> 02:31:49,039
Speaker 1: sell a show. Here's what happened. We're in that meeting.

2720
02:31:49,320 --> 02:31:51,400
Speaker 1: I put together one sheet. I still got the one sheeter.

2721
02:31:53,440 --> 02:31:58,039
Speaker 1: I say, look, guys, I talked to my agent W

2722
02:31:58,240 --> 02:32:00,520
Speaker 1: and Me, Josh Pye. He read present some of the

2723
02:32:00,520 --> 02:32:03,720
Speaker 1: biggest production companies, some of the biggest whatever back there, like,

2724
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't he gonna get mad at me if I

2725
02:32:05,120 --> 02:32:07,120
Speaker 1: tell you who. But we talked about the biggest name

2726
02:32:07,120 --> 02:32:12,959
Speaker 1: in basketball name production companies, Football, Boom them. My first

2727
02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:16,760
Speaker 1: meeting at W and Me, Ari Emmanuel had Opor on

2728
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:21,000
Speaker 1: a call. I did my work and this is what

2729
02:32:21,080 --> 02:32:23,960
Speaker 1: I what was presented to me. I recommend y'all do

2730
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:26,640
Speaker 1: the same. But what I think this is the offer.

2731
02:32:27,560 --> 02:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I said, Look, everybody can bust it down. You know

2732
02:32:32,040 --> 02:32:34,199
Speaker 1: how we talk, bust it down, you know, bust it down.

2733
02:32:34,600 --> 02:32:37,200
Speaker 1: There ain't no corporate talking that we all bust it down.

2734
02:32:37,240 --> 02:32:39,240
Speaker 1: This is what I'm thinking. This is how much it's

2735
02:32:39,280 --> 02:32:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna cost us the investment for the production for a

2736
02:32:42,480 --> 02:32:45,920
Speaker 1: season one. Everybody, Yeah, we're in the meeting. We're in

2737
02:32:45,959 --> 02:32:49,480
Speaker 1: the meeting. Essays involved too, so boom, we all sitting there.

2738
02:32:49,800 --> 02:32:51,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be about a hundred and something. That was

2739
02:32:51,879 --> 02:32:54,240
Speaker 1: about the thirty five thousand apiece. But then I also

2740
02:32:54,280 --> 02:32:56,119
Speaker 1: said Murch because Murch was a big thing. Because I'm

2741
02:32:56,120 --> 02:32:57,920
Speaker 1: studying a lot of other people too, So I'm like

2742
02:32:58,120 --> 02:33:00,400
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be like a ten thousand dollars investment

2743
02:33:00,440 --> 02:33:02,760
Speaker 1: for website and then we gotta get product. So like,

2744
02:33:02,840 --> 02:33:05,760
Speaker 1: whatever you invest is what you get out right, whatever, hirey,

2745
02:33:05,840 --> 02:33:08,240
Speaker 1: I want to participate, But if y'all don't choose to

2746
02:33:08,280 --> 02:33:11,360
Speaker 1: do that, then here's a Purse Show episode fee. So

2747
02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:15,400
Speaker 1: I gave two options Fred Taylor, and this is why

2748
02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:17,840
Speaker 1: there's a there's a there's like I always like spent

2749
02:33:17,959 --> 02:33:20,960
Speaker 1: time with Fred because from the beginning, Fred was like,

2750
02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:24,120
Speaker 1: you know what, I believe in ownership. He's I believe

2751
02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:28,080
Speaker 1: in ownership. Boom, all right, say no more. Channing said

2752
02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:32,240
Speaker 1: his exact words. I like security, I don't really like

2753
02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:34,240
Speaker 1: to take those chances or whatever. I'm gonna take the

2754
02:33:34,280 --> 02:33:39,039
Speaker 1: Purse Show fee. We break through that a hundred something thousand,

2755
02:33:39,080 --> 02:33:42,480
Speaker 1: that hundred something thousand investment that we said it was

2756
02:33:42,480 --> 02:33:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna take, it turns into like six hundred seven hundred thousand.

2757
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:50,200
Speaker 1: But the audience is going crazy. Now Fred t come,

2758
02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:53,400
Speaker 1: He like, yo, let's have that meeting. So I was like,

2759
02:33:53,480 --> 02:33:55,760
Speaker 1: say no more, let's talk, right, But I'm going like

2760
02:33:55,800 --> 02:33:58,119
Speaker 1: I'm just going everything, but I'm going ain't no problem,

2761
02:33:58,200 --> 02:34:00,280
Speaker 1: Like I see the vision you know what I'm saying,

2762
02:34:00,959 --> 02:34:05,080
Speaker 1: everybody getting paid. But me and fred T. Okay, fred

2763
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:07,560
Speaker 1: T didn't come back like he after one show. You

2764
02:34:07,640 --> 02:34:10,480
Speaker 1: the audience, it's like, it's like crazy right now, No,

2765
02:34:10,600 --> 02:34:14,240
Speaker 1: not no, yesterday's price that fast. It's fast. It was fast.

2766
02:34:14,280 --> 02:34:17,520
Speaker 1: It's fast. So fred T come. So Fred after one

2767
02:34:17,560 --> 02:34:19,200
Speaker 1: of the shows, like, Yo, let's let's let's let's tighten

2768
02:34:19,320 --> 02:34:21,480
Speaker 1: up the business. I said, say, let's let's do it,

2769
02:34:21,520 --> 02:34:25,720
Speaker 1: like come in tuesday, Come in tuesday, Come in Tuesday

2770
02:34:25,760 --> 02:34:28,800
Speaker 1: in the office at noon. So I'm up there at noon,

2771
02:34:29,680 --> 02:34:34,320
Speaker 1: Me and Essay sitting there. No fred TD, no show,

2772
02:34:34,360 --> 02:34:37,280
Speaker 1: no call. Oh so that's fine. He's like, oh, man,

2773
02:34:37,320 --> 02:34:39,119
Speaker 1: I missed it. You know what I'm saying, boom boom, Okay,

2774
02:34:39,160 --> 02:34:42,080
Speaker 1: that's cool. Lets never reschedule whatever. But we then we

2775
02:34:42,120 --> 02:34:44,320
Speaker 1: got back on the horn about four or five months later.

2776
02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:47,879
Speaker 1: And and long story short is and this is where

2777
02:34:47,879 --> 02:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Fred and I bumped kids. This is the only for real,

2778
02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:53,680
Speaker 1: the only real fight for me was that because at

2779
02:34:53,680 --> 02:34:57,160
Speaker 1: the because again, principal man in your word, et cetera,

2780
02:34:57,200 --> 02:35:02,640
Speaker 1: et cetera, he said, from the beginning, I believe in ownership.

2781
02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Cool beat. But when we sit in the office and

2782
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:09,200
Speaker 1: he like, basically like, Yo, I want X percent. I'm like,

2783
02:35:09,240 --> 02:35:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't like, Bro, Like everything changed because the investment

2784
02:35:13,200 --> 02:35:15,480
Speaker 1: was bigger. You know what I'm saying. My wife working

2785
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:17,320
Speaker 1: on this, she ain't got paid, essay, came here to

2786
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:19,879
Speaker 1: run house of athlete. She got boom boom boom. So

2787
02:35:19,920 --> 02:35:22,120
Speaker 1: when you really look at the numbers, it's like crazy now.

2788
02:35:22,480 --> 02:35:25,600
Speaker 1: And I'm so like the percentage changes. It's no longer

2789
02:35:25,640 --> 02:35:30,040
Speaker 1: you get a quarter of everything because of what you

2790
02:35:30,120 --> 02:35:32,039
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I and I looked at

2791
02:35:32,120 --> 02:35:33,800
Speaker 1: him and it was very simple, and this is where

2792
02:35:33,800 --> 02:35:36,879
Speaker 1: the heated conversations came in at It's just like, BRO, like,

2793
02:35:37,640 --> 02:35:40,280
Speaker 1: if this flops, would you had would you have come

2794
02:35:40,320 --> 02:35:43,960
Speaker 1: back and gave me five hundred seven hundred thousand dollars

2795
02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:46,600
Speaker 1: or said, you know what, Bro, it flopped. I know.

2796
02:35:46,680 --> 02:35:48,720
Speaker 1: I said, you know last year that this is what

2797
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:50,720
Speaker 1: I was going to give you. You know, here you go.

2798
02:35:51,640 --> 02:35:55,320
Speaker 1: I said, let's get to a fair deal. So there's

2799
02:35:55,360 --> 02:35:57,640
Speaker 1: so much more that we can talk about. And this

2800
02:35:57,680 --> 02:35:59,320
Speaker 1: is my first time saying so I feel like I'm

2801
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:06,080
Speaker 1: ranting so a little bit. What it feels like is

2802
02:36:06,160 --> 02:36:10,720
Speaker 1: that B. Marshall understood that things were moving fast, so

2803
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:15,000
Speaker 1: he jumped on the horse. I'm taking the ride as

2804
02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:19,240
Speaker 1: he's taking the ridy structure in his networking business. So

2805
02:36:19,320 --> 02:36:22,240
Speaker 1: he's doing network business and he's kind of has guys

2806
02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:26,320
Speaker 1: signed almost like a label ward a group, right, so

2807
02:36:26,360 --> 02:36:30,400
Speaker 1: he has rights to them as this group here and

2808
02:36:30,959 --> 02:36:34,920
Speaker 1: in his opinion, because they had that conversation with Channing Crowder,

2809
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:38,800
Speaker 1: he had first looked at that show. So when Channing

2810
02:36:38,920 --> 02:36:43,440
Speaker 1: Winning took that show to that producer, he was like, yo, whoa, whoa, whoa,

2811
02:36:43,480 --> 02:36:45,920
Speaker 1: what's this about? Now? I know Joe and him like, yo,

2812
02:36:45,959 --> 02:36:48,320
Speaker 1: what's wrong with him taking the shoulder? You know? But

2813
02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:52,040
Speaker 1: that's just clarifying what you're looking at her hearing when

2814
02:36:52,040 --> 02:36:54,920
Speaker 1: you when you hit that. Now the other side, which

2815
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:58,640
Speaker 1: is Fred saying he doesn't want to be paid a

2816
02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:01,160
Speaker 1: purse show. He's gonna kind of hang over here in

2817
02:37:01,160 --> 02:37:07,200
Speaker 1: the corner invest and get a return on his investment.

2818
02:37:07,280 --> 02:37:13,080
Speaker 1: But he didn't invest initially the business started to springboard

2819
02:37:13,120 --> 02:37:16,600
Speaker 1: and spawn. He came back in looking to invest that

2820
02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:22,000
Speaker 1: initial investment. When because of the traction and investment evolved.

2821
02:37:22,120 --> 02:37:24,800
Speaker 1: When you see uptick and say hey, this may be

2822
02:37:24,959 --> 02:37:27,000
Speaker 1: going a little further, you dump a little mow in that.

2823
02:37:28,120 --> 02:37:30,600
Speaker 1: Let's secure a few more things, Let's let's open up

2824
02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:32,640
Speaker 1: a few more avenues. Let's make sure we hit it

2825
02:37:32,680 --> 02:37:35,080
Speaker 1: in the right direction just in case, because it looks

2826
02:37:35,080 --> 02:37:38,400
Speaker 1: like we're going to do good. So that number initially,

2827
02:37:38,440 --> 02:37:40,720
Speaker 1: which was thirty five thousand, I think based on what

2828
02:37:40,800 --> 02:37:44,600
Speaker 1: he said, turned into much more than that. Now I

2829
02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:47,320
Speaker 1: would imagine Fred and then would say, well, it turn

2830
02:37:47,360 --> 02:37:49,880
Speaker 1: her much more than that because the X Y they'll

2831
02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:52,440
Speaker 1: have some reasons as to that, right, So I think

2832
02:37:52,480 --> 02:37:56,040
Speaker 1: they maybe couldn't agree on what that number was. So

2833
02:37:56,160 --> 02:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Fred is still living in uncertainty on that. But they

2834
02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:02,880
Speaker 1: have moved on and did something over there that I

2835
02:38:02,920 --> 02:38:06,360
Speaker 1: think it's moving as well. They are both maintaining with

2836
02:38:06,400 --> 02:38:09,160
Speaker 1: their sports fan base. And let me say this, I've

2837
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:11,520
Speaker 1: been in the House of Athlete. I spend a couple

2838
02:38:11,520 --> 02:38:14,440
Speaker 1: of days up there. Probably the best facility I've ever

2839
02:38:14,520 --> 02:38:17,760
Speaker 1: been in me as far as like a gym facility

2840
02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:21,440
Speaker 1: all purpose too. When I say you can come in

2841
02:38:21,440 --> 02:38:23,959
Speaker 1: there and do anything you need to do in regards

2842
02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:28,200
Speaker 1: to work out, relax or recover. It's a situation that

2843
02:38:28,400 --> 02:38:30,959
Speaker 1: is a very unique and it's led by athletes that

2844
02:38:31,040 --> 02:38:35,520
Speaker 1: who have cashed in results, which brings a different kind

2845
02:38:35,520 --> 02:38:38,640
Speaker 1: of atmosphere and environment to it as well. Again, I

2846
02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:41,640
Speaker 1: know some of the goals that he has. I look

2847
02:38:41,680 --> 02:38:44,840
Speaker 1: at the House of Athlete like a dual facility. It's

2848
02:38:44,879 --> 02:38:49,040
Speaker 1: a production set as well. Right, some of those rooms

2849
02:38:49,040 --> 02:38:50,960
Speaker 1: and how they set up. I'm like, I see where

2850
02:38:50,959 --> 02:38:54,000
Speaker 1: he's going. This is this is super dope. And so

2851
02:38:54,440 --> 02:38:56,800
Speaker 1: he had a plan on the walk up and he

2852
02:38:56,840 --> 02:38:59,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have one of these plans like how you sit

2853
02:38:59,200 --> 02:39:01,560
Speaker 1: back and just be like, man, I think I'm gonna

2854
02:39:01,560 --> 02:39:04,400
Speaker 1: do this. He didn't hired somebody to write out a bid.

2855
02:39:04,480 --> 02:39:06,920
Speaker 1: That's where I'm say. I learned that side from being

2856
02:39:06,959 --> 02:39:10,080
Speaker 1: over there close to him. They didn't hired people to

2857
02:39:10,160 --> 02:39:12,400
Speaker 1: write out this and that and bid and playing and

2858
02:39:12,480 --> 02:39:14,160
Speaker 1: that of this. And now I learned that we're earn

2859
02:39:14,200 --> 02:39:17,400
Speaker 1: your leisure too, Like talking about Yo, when we first started,

2860
02:39:17,400 --> 02:39:19,760
Speaker 1: we wrote on this and had our business planning though.

2861
02:39:21,280 --> 02:39:23,480
Speaker 1: You know, I was talking to him about funding the

2862
02:39:23,520 --> 02:39:26,039
Speaker 1: other day, just like investment and all of that, like

2863
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:30,480
Speaker 1: what does that look like? I saw the first episode

2864
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:31,959
Speaker 1: and be it hit me up and I said, Yo,

2865
02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:35,600
Speaker 1: you know this because I was in limbo, Because he

2866
02:39:35,720 --> 02:39:37,600
Speaker 1: was like might want to have you on for a

2867
02:39:37,640 --> 02:39:40,039
Speaker 1: few shows. I don't want to let me tell you what.

2868
02:39:40,120 --> 02:39:42,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you real quick. So the reason why

2869
02:39:42,080 --> 02:39:45,600
Speaker 1: I hit you up right, and this was probably a

2870
02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:51,640
Speaker 1: year seven months before they made they left, was because

2871
02:39:51,680 --> 02:39:53,199
Speaker 1: I saw where it was going and I just wanted

2872
02:39:53,200 --> 02:39:56,280
Speaker 1: to introduce the audience to new people. So that was you,

2873
02:39:56,680 --> 02:39:59,600
Speaker 1: that was Jared Ardrick. I was like, because now if

2874
02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:02,360
Speaker 1: this go was left now and we ain't skipping a beat,

2875
02:40:03,280 --> 02:40:05,720
Speaker 1: can I ask some questions? What was they doing before

2876
02:40:05,720 --> 02:40:10,280
Speaker 1: they got on with you? He asked you, what would

2877
02:40:10,280 --> 02:40:13,480
Speaker 1: you do differently? Right? You never answered that? Okay, And

2878
02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:16,360
Speaker 1: now that you know what the play is, what what? What?

2879
02:40:16,600 --> 02:40:21,039
Speaker 1: What have you done? So hindsight do you understand I'm saying,

2880
02:40:21,080 --> 02:40:23,440
Speaker 1: I want to know if you could have changed something right,

2881
02:40:23,480 --> 02:40:25,320
Speaker 1: what would you have done differently? Yeah? I went on

2882
02:40:25,360 --> 02:40:28,840
Speaker 1: a tangent from that aspect, from the business side of it.

2883
02:40:29,640 --> 02:40:31,959
Speaker 1: There's nothing I could do. Like, That's what it was,

2884
02:40:32,080 --> 02:40:34,480
Speaker 1: bro like. I had no clue, I had a vision

2885
02:40:34,600 --> 02:40:37,959
Speaker 1: and I went with my gut. If I had to

2886
02:40:37,959 --> 02:40:39,760
Speaker 1: say one thing, I would have took the emotion out

2887
02:40:39,800 --> 02:40:41,440
Speaker 1: of the out of the out of the money, out

2888
02:40:41,440 --> 02:40:45,800
Speaker 1: of the business. There's no emotion and money right, meaning

2889
02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:50,279
Speaker 1: like women, there's no emotions with facts, right, the facts

2890
02:40:50,280 --> 02:40:53,080
Speaker 1: of the facts, whether we're emotional about it or not.

2891
02:40:53,400 --> 02:40:55,879
Speaker 1: So then why are we emotionally? These ain't gonna change

2892
02:40:56,240 --> 02:40:58,160
Speaker 1: if they want to sit down for a podcast? Would

2893
02:40:58,160 --> 02:41:00,959
Speaker 1: you sit down with him? Who? Channing? Him? Right? If

2894
02:41:01,000 --> 02:41:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm being honest right now? Um no, because I ain't

2895
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:09,120
Speaker 1: on I answered the course. But I said, uh, I said,

2896
02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:11,560
Speaker 1: you know Fred and Channing they just dropped the podcast.

2897
02:41:12,040 --> 02:41:13,920
Speaker 1: I was in the back room getting him a soft

2898
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:16,560
Speaker 1: text message in or whatever yea, And I told him,

2899
02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:19,680
Speaker 1: I said, look, I said, this is no different than

2900
02:41:19,720 --> 02:41:23,039
Speaker 1: a two pm game on a Sunday afternoon. Two teams

2901
02:41:23,080 --> 02:41:29,000
Speaker 1: come in, one team lead victorious. He hit me up.

2902
02:41:29,160 --> 02:41:32,720
Speaker 1: I needed to hear that. We started to have the conversation.

2903
02:41:32,800 --> 02:41:36,279
Speaker 1: It was like, because everybody know he can get messy.

2904
02:41:37,600 --> 02:41:39,760
Speaker 1: He was like he was he was headed down the

2905
02:41:39,800 --> 02:41:45,360
Speaker 1: messy road. He was like, he was like me, do

2906
02:41:45,400 --> 02:41:47,800
Speaker 1: I do this? Do I blah blah blah, And I

2907
02:41:47,840 --> 02:41:51,720
Speaker 1: was like nah. Like then he was like, I'm I'm

2908
02:41:51,760 --> 02:41:53,600
Speaker 1: surprised because you went from it. He was like, do

2909
02:41:53,720 --> 02:41:56,760
Speaker 1: I shot him out? Do I do I congratulate him.

2910
02:41:58,000 --> 02:42:07,879
Speaker 1: That's what you learned in sports, like high road, hold please, no,

2911
02:42:07,959 --> 02:42:13,920
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, and and it was exactly and

2912
02:42:13,959 --> 02:42:18,440
Speaker 1: it was you know, I'm not gonna lie, but I

2913
02:42:18,480 --> 02:42:22,520
Speaker 1: can't want you to succeed. Hey, I ain't gonna like

2914
02:42:22,560 --> 02:42:25,920
Speaker 1: my dog was like and went from like we just

2915
02:42:25,920 --> 02:42:30,160
Speaker 1: get messy with you. You shot him out and I

2916
02:42:30,240 --> 02:42:32,440
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, like like chill, this is why he

2917
02:42:32,480 --> 02:42:36,080
Speaker 1: didn't answer the question when I was asking you. Yeah, no,

2918
02:42:36,480 --> 02:42:39,280
Speaker 1: he I had them conversations too where he was he

2919
02:42:39,360 --> 02:42:42,400
Speaker 1: was mad, he was upset, like, man, I can't believe this. Man,

2920
02:42:42,520 --> 02:42:46,200
Speaker 1: like I tried, I'm trying my best to this, this this.

2921
02:42:46,280 --> 02:42:49,160
Speaker 1: And then they was going on different podcasts too, Like

2922
02:42:49,480 --> 02:42:52,959
Speaker 1: I was around him when them podcasts was dropping. It's

2923
02:42:53,000 --> 02:42:55,080
Speaker 1: like they were saying this, they were saying this. It's like,

2924
02:42:55,160 --> 02:42:58,039
Speaker 1: of course, naturally you want to defend yourself, but sports

2925
02:42:58,080 --> 02:43:00,680
Speaker 1: kind of teach you how to hold only that you

2926
02:43:00,720 --> 02:43:04,039
Speaker 1: know me, I'm like, it's attack on the brand, so

2927
02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how to dance there. But in sports

2928
02:43:06,520 --> 02:43:08,840
Speaker 1: it teaches you that it ain't attack on the brain

2929
02:43:08,920 --> 02:43:12,720
Speaker 1: because the product is the product. And sometimes you deal

2930
02:43:12,760 --> 02:43:15,760
Speaker 1: with that because them guys are clearing their name and

2931
02:43:16,280 --> 02:43:18,480
Speaker 1: kind of saying like, hey, this is why you see

2932
02:43:18,520 --> 02:43:21,960
Speaker 1: something new pop up, and they're they're drilling that down

2933
02:43:22,040 --> 02:43:24,880
Speaker 1: everywhere they go. Something new, We're doing something new, We're

2934
02:43:24,879 --> 02:43:28,360
Speaker 1: doing something new because quite naturally people are saying, yo,

2935
02:43:28,400 --> 02:43:31,320
Speaker 1: why y'all in what's going on with what's so they

2936
02:43:31,959 --> 02:43:35,879
Speaker 1: putting that down every time, and he's on the other

2937
02:43:35,879 --> 02:43:40,280
Speaker 1: side just keeping it going. You know, it's a lot

2938
02:43:40,360 --> 02:43:43,320
Speaker 1: going on in business, doll in this game, especially when

2939
02:43:43,360 --> 02:43:46,400
Speaker 1: it takes off. See, it's all good until it take off.

2940
02:43:46,520 --> 02:43:49,080
Speaker 1: When they take off, then it's like, hey, everybody trying

2941
02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:51,360
Speaker 1: to figure out what their little percentage is on what.

2942
02:43:51,920 --> 02:43:54,280
Speaker 1: But one thing you learned by looking at both these

2943
02:43:54,360 --> 02:43:57,039
Speaker 1: dudes when they go through it is that a stumblin't

2944
02:43:57,040 --> 02:44:01,840
Speaker 1: the fall just because you stumbling. It looked like, don't

2945
02:44:01,879 --> 02:44:04,040
Speaker 1: count that out just yet, because they might. They might

2946
02:44:04,120 --> 02:44:06,440
Speaker 1: can get back up and get back hold to that

2947
02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:09,160
Speaker 1: and at least get it to a place where it's

2948
02:44:09,200 --> 02:44:12,240
Speaker 1: back sustainable. And then if we can do this for

2949
02:44:12,320 --> 02:44:14,720
Speaker 1: a couple of years and innovate some kind of way

2950
02:44:14,920 --> 02:44:18,480
Speaker 1: and boom scale it up, it's over, you know. So

2951
02:44:18,520 --> 02:44:20,959
Speaker 1: it ain't about right now it's about the long journey.

2952
02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:23,520
Speaker 1: That's what kind of game I'm over here playing. But

2953
02:44:23,680 --> 02:44:27,280
Speaker 1: we can get into how both shows evolved, you know,

2954
02:44:27,640 --> 02:44:32,120
Speaker 1: another time, maybe on Patreon or something like that. But

2955
02:44:32,200 --> 02:44:34,840
Speaker 1: if you haven't, go see that interaction and just see

2956
02:44:34,879 --> 02:44:37,360
Speaker 1: them kind of iron things out on Iron Athlete with

2957
02:44:37,560 --> 02:44:40,800
Speaker 1: be Marshall and Joe Budden. See what else we want

2958
02:44:40,840 --> 02:44:42,879
Speaker 1: to talk about today. I want to talk about this

2959
02:44:42,959 --> 02:44:45,400
Speaker 1: Kanye West rent that's been going on. I think it's

2960
02:44:45,400 --> 02:44:48,600
Speaker 1: about five or six minutes. Kanye whistles in front of

2961
02:44:48,680 --> 02:44:52,160
Speaker 1: Gaps speaking as a creator. Even when you come up

2962
02:44:52,200 --> 02:44:55,640
Speaker 1: after you even proving yourself, you still find yourself trying

2963
02:44:55,640 --> 02:44:58,680
Speaker 1: to explain your value to people that can't create the

2964
02:44:58,760 --> 02:45:02,680
Speaker 1: things that you can create, maybe can't articulate the way

2965
02:45:02,720 --> 02:45:06,280
Speaker 1: you can articulate, can't get this response from the same

2966
02:45:06,320 --> 02:45:10,320
Speaker 1: individuals that you can get from those people. I think

2967
02:45:10,680 --> 02:45:13,360
Speaker 1: there's something to be said about being able to move

2968
02:45:13,400 --> 02:45:16,680
Speaker 1: the needle in such a volatile business. And that's why

2969
02:45:16,760 --> 02:45:19,359
Speaker 1: some of the people at the forefront are at the forefront,

2970
02:45:19,440 --> 02:45:22,240
Speaker 1: is because they moved the needle in a way that

2971
02:45:22,400 --> 02:45:25,720
Speaker 1: is few and far in between. But Kanye was speaking

2972
02:45:25,760 --> 02:45:30,119
Speaker 1: to Gap head CEOs and people in the boardroom about

2973
02:45:30,120 --> 02:45:32,480
Speaker 1: how he felt about some of the things happening. There's

2974
02:45:32,520 --> 02:45:37,920
Speaker 1: a very interesting encounter going on between Adidas, between Gap

2975
02:45:38,080 --> 02:45:42,600
Speaker 1: and between Kanye West. What seems to be happening is

2976
02:45:42,600 --> 02:45:47,480
Speaker 1: they're taking his ideas, seeing that they gave him billions

2977
02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:51,760
Speaker 1: of dollars, looks like they're taking his ideas, mass producing

2978
02:45:51,800 --> 02:45:56,160
Speaker 1: those on the same line and brand, putting them in

2979
02:45:56,280 --> 02:46:00,080
Speaker 1: stores in front of in places that he can't be in,

2980
02:46:00,720 --> 02:46:05,280
Speaker 1: and basically selling the substitute for now. If you know

2981
02:46:05,360 --> 02:46:07,960
Speaker 1: anything about the game, you know that's what you do.

2982
02:46:09,640 --> 02:46:11,920
Speaker 1: Like a lot of those little off brands be owned

2983
02:46:11,920 --> 02:46:14,360
Speaker 1: by the same company, so to be Coca Cola, and

2984
02:46:14,400 --> 02:46:17,199
Speaker 1: then Cola and then that Cola somewhat down the line

2985
02:46:17,240 --> 02:46:20,040
Speaker 1: and still owned by the people that own Coca Cola.

2986
02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:23,520
Speaker 1: They kind of have created their own competition. And that's

2987
02:46:23,560 --> 02:46:26,119
Speaker 1: funny because speaking to be Marshall, I was telling him

2988
02:46:26,200 --> 02:46:29,240
Speaker 1: that when that break up, and I'm like, you don't,

2989
02:46:29,280 --> 02:46:32,200
Speaker 1: I said, don't. We got to create our own competition.

2990
02:46:32,240 --> 02:46:36,240
Speaker 1: But that's behind the board and look like that's the

2991
02:46:36,280 --> 02:46:38,640
Speaker 1: approach that they're taking. So they may say, Yo, we

2992
02:46:38,680 --> 02:46:41,040
Speaker 1: didn't pay you that money for your products. We paid

2993
02:46:41,080 --> 02:46:45,879
Speaker 1: that for your brand, your infrastructure. We paid for rights

2994
02:46:45,879 --> 02:46:47,959
Speaker 1: to go behind the scenes with you, and if that

2995
02:46:48,040 --> 02:46:51,400
Speaker 1: means copying what you're doing, then that's what we're gonna do,

2996
02:46:51,480 --> 02:46:54,080
Speaker 1: and that's how we do business in the United States.

2997
02:46:54,160 --> 02:46:56,320
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this, in my opinion, very

2998
02:46:57,320 --> 02:47:02,440
Speaker 1: inspirational speech or conversation with these companies, because I don't

2999
02:47:02,440 --> 02:47:05,320
Speaker 1: know what the fight is dealing with these companies and

3000
02:47:05,400 --> 02:47:08,040
Speaker 1: a lot of y'all, whether this corporate America, whatever it is,

3001
02:47:08,080 --> 02:47:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, the fight that is trying to explain the

3002
02:47:10,600 --> 02:47:12,880
Speaker 1: value of what it is you do and how you

3003
02:47:13,040 --> 02:47:16,720
Speaker 1: feel about what you do. You know you gotta not

3004
02:47:16,800 --> 02:47:20,040
Speaker 1: be emotional with that though, attaching results to what you

3005
02:47:20,160 --> 02:47:25,080
Speaker 1: do and speak with passion, but lean on the results,

3006
02:47:25,240 --> 02:47:28,959
Speaker 1: lean on the expertise, lean on the execution of this thing,

3007
02:47:29,440 --> 02:47:32,280
Speaker 1: because anything outside of that can be solid. Did you

3008
02:47:32,320 --> 02:47:35,600
Speaker 1: see how crazy it's going for something that's then sold nothing?

3009
02:47:35,920 --> 02:47:38,800
Speaker 1: But sometimes you live there. That's another conversation. Let's take

3010
02:47:38,840 --> 02:47:43,039
Speaker 1: a look at this. This is far talk. This is

3011
02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:48,320
Speaker 1: not selecting, This is not a collaboration. This is a

3012
02:47:48,400 --> 02:47:52,440
Speaker 1: life mission. I didn't understand why I love Louis until

3013
02:47:52,480 --> 02:47:55,400
Speaker 1: I earth about Mark Jaydos. I don't understand why I

3014
02:47:55,480 --> 02:47:58,440
Speaker 1: love until I learned about talk for It. I just

3015
02:47:58,680 --> 02:48:03,480
Speaker 1: understand why all rap flams that I learned about raphlections,

3016
02:48:03,520 --> 02:48:07,160
Speaker 1: i'dn't understand why I love the act. Learn about making

3017
02:48:07,800 --> 02:48:11,400
Speaker 1: Me and Matt George brought season six and show making.

3018
02:48:11,600 --> 02:48:14,040
Speaker 1: You grab the stuff and miss responses. Bods too good.

3019
02:48:15,160 --> 02:48:17,680
Speaker 1: So I'm now all the fleas Terry Black, that that

3020
02:48:18,200 --> 02:48:21,640
Speaker 1: something you can hit that old naking price with the cut,

3021
02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:25,920
Speaker 1: and we go and we do TV commercials and we

3022
02:48:26,000 --> 02:48:28,480
Speaker 1: open up that store. Look at those stores, and we

3023
02:48:28,840 --> 02:48:31,240
Speaker 1: go through those raccine, look at that product whatever, and

3024
02:48:31,360 --> 02:48:35,000
Speaker 1: put that other ship in the outlet and put ration

3025
02:48:35,160 --> 02:48:40,600
Speaker 1: in the front of you every single gap store and

3026
02:48:40,720 --> 02:48:42,880
Speaker 1: let's go take the Jason Creek stores. I would have

3027
02:48:43,000 --> 02:48:46,440
Speaker 1: a free evasion and fully foam bossy floor. The kids

3028
02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:49,320
Speaker 1: are putting them the es and these beautiful bosh like

3029
02:48:49,520 --> 02:48:52,000
Speaker 1: Vinash Beaves colors with the doves in the back, and

3030
02:48:52,200 --> 02:48:56,720
Speaker 1: just take it over the glow. You gotta have the

3031
02:48:56,840 --> 02:49:04,320
Speaker 1: strongness team. People will higher the best back. We will

3032
02:49:04,360 --> 02:49:08,760
Speaker 1: get cotton, we will order d We want power. That

3033
02:49:08,879 --> 02:49:11,120
Speaker 1: a new work for us, straight from the schools, and

3034
02:49:12,400 --> 02:49:17,400
Speaker 1: we're invigorating American. The American instry of this country is

3035
02:49:17,400 --> 02:49:21,200
Speaker 1: based off the industry, and with us elected, we all

3036
02:49:21,240 --> 02:49:24,520
Speaker 1: have the possibility to bring it back. And I know

3037
02:49:24,640 --> 02:49:26,560
Speaker 1: we felt like this first, felt like you couldn't do it.

3038
02:49:26,879 --> 02:49:29,880
Speaker 1: The people really can do it with this team. I

3039
02:49:29,959 --> 02:49:37,800
Speaker 1: think that canny. If we say this, we can be willed.

3040
02:49:39,760 --> 02:49:42,200
Speaker 1: We got to be the highest vange brand in them all.

3041
02:49:42,240 --> 02:49:47,840
Speaker 1: Who's got the most infusty from them all? How cool? Respectfully,

3042
02:49:47,840 --> 02:49:54,039
Speaker 1: he's passed away. He's passed away, so he's not gonna

3043
02:49:54,040 --> 02:49:56,880
Speaker 1: be Victual's attention. Don't we go to those season? I

3044
02:49:56,920 --> 02:49:59,720
Speaker 1: don't know the last time they lost anything. I don't

3045
02:49:59,720 --> 02:50:03,000
Speaker 1: know what what's like? Is it interesting when I seth

3046
02:50:03,040 --> 02:50:05,160
Speaker 1: in the state and give yourself seven million dollars in

3047
02:50:05,280 --> 02:50:08,520
Speaker 1: merch a night, and this is us captive fifty thousand,

3048
02:50:08,600 --> 02:50:10,480
Speaker 1: sees me we could have went to seventy five thousand.

3049
02:50:10,520 --> 02:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Says people are going to look people's eyeballs went for

3050
02:50:14,720 --> 02:50:17,039
Speaker 1: a parish driver then and all of that, And look,

3051
02:50:17,280 --> 02:50:20,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna see if we're gonna provide something consistently right

3052
02:50:20,600 --> 02:50:24,760
Speaker 1: there in the communities by having a providervations with some

3053
02:50:24,879 --> 02:50:29,640
Speaker 1: black bass that my family shows up too, and then

3054
02:50:29,840 --> 02:50:33,120
Speaker 1: you know kids, if I'm you know gay from you

3055
02:50:33,160 --> 02:50:36,600
Speaker 1: know their stories, it's not going to save the guy.

3056
02:50:37,720 --> 02:50:43,360
Speaker 1: It's not enough. It's not enough. And I love Goat

3057
02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:46,240
Speaker 1: like gonna give you guys whatever. It's the third one

3058
02:50:46,320 --> 02:50:51,840
Speaker 1: who we know. You'd have to really give me the

3059
02:50:51,959 --> 02:50:55,840
Speaker 1: position to gay and do what I'm thinking, or I'm

3060
02:50:55,840 --> 02:50:59,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to do what I'm thinking somewhere else because

3061
02:50:59,320 --> 02:51:02,320
Speaker 1: one thing I'm going to converge, except it's killing him.

3062
02:51:02,800 --> 02:51:09,560
Speaker 1: It's actually killed. We canceled the three order of the

3063
02:51:09,560 --> 02:51:15,360
Speaker 1: new jacket. That's insane. I brought three million emails over

3064
02:51:15,440 --> 02:51:23,880
Speaker 1: for Adivas and we didn't use them. That's insane. That's insane.

3065
02:51:24,080 --> 02:51:27,120
Speaker 1: We sold fourteen million goodies at eighty dollars with no

3066
02:51:27,280 --> 02:51:30,760
Speaker 1: loo on it off of one commercial and never rented

3067
02:51:30,760 --> 02:51:36,720
Speaker 1: a commercial again. That's insane. Pierre Beli win one sample

3068
02:51:36,800 --> 02:51:40,960
Speaker 1: cent on the Glitsiaga collection on City next to von

3069
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Speaker 1: wettern E Centric watching under Davia's Blitziader Properish Now do

3070
02:51:44,840 --> 02:51:48,920
Speaker 1: you know him about? That's insane. He never did a

3071
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:53,640
Speaker 1: fashion shirt, that's insane. When we moved Forward Data Center

3072
02:51:53,920 --> 02:51:57,119
Speaker 1: and Leo said, we did fifty sores. He said, that's bullshit.

3073
02:51:57,840 --> 02:52:01,760
Speaker 1: He never cursed again. He said, Hue playing Tris and

3074
02:52:01,840 --> 02:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I called Jay Prince now start plays the fuel woman.

3075
02:52:04,560 --> 02:52:07,080
Speaker 1: But when he said dy sports for a day, David

3076
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:15,720
Speaker 1: Simon said, that's bullish. That's exciting you guys at a

3077
02:52:15,879 --> 02:52:23,800
Speaker 1: board and its site. This is the moment. There's the

3078
02:52:23,920 --> 02:52:26,680
Speaker 1: matter being a humble to you who they behind hype

3079
02:52:26,800 --> 02:52:31,320
Speaker 1: like me that cares this much about specifically this bread

3080
02:52:31,600 --> 02:52:35,560
Speaker 1: and has done this up to this point. We are,

3081
02:52:36,040 --> 02:52:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, like Tom Brady waking people up at two am.

3082
02:52:39,040 --> 02:52:41,200
Speaker 1: You are in COVID. But he went back and he

3083
02:52:41,400 --> 02:52:45,600
Speaker 1: got that ring at that point, and we're the football team.

3084
02:52:46,200 --> 02:52:48,760
Speaker 1: This is our football team. And I'm actually the Tom

3085
02:52:48,840 --> 02:52:53,520
Speaker 1: Brady because then the charge sports four thousand dollars fuel

3086
02:52:53,600 --> 02:52:57,160
Speaker 1: or T shirt. I'm saying, like, here's cotton, here seeds.

3087
02:52:57,160 --> 02:52:59,600
Speaker 1: How do we get this thing to two dollars? How

3088
02:52:59,640 --> 02:53:02,280
Speaker 1: do we go costable? How do we bow bold nasing prices?

3089
02:53:02,480 --> 02:53:06,879
Speaker 1: And I'm they're in factories who no he from there,

3090
02:53:07,000 --> 02:53:12,040
Speaker 1: no security, no he no gold watch, no change learning.

3091
02:53:12,280 --> 02:53:15,280
Speaker 1: How do we get this to the high schools and

3092
02:53:15,480 --> 02:53:19,320
Speaker 1: high schools they believe this is bigger than us, and

3093
02:53:19,440 --> 02:53:24,039
Speaker 1: we shouldn't argue amongst ourselves. But I'm saying I after

3094
02:53:24,120 --> 02:53:27,480
Speaker 1: they pull that sword out the stung, you either believe

3095
02:53:27,640 --> 02:53:30,840
Speaker 1: me or I'm showing I'm even be gonna show your

3096
02:53:30,879 --> 02:53:38,040
Speaker 1: faces this way, but you're gonna see it. I'm clid.

3097
02:53:38,080 --> 02:53:43,640
Speaker 1: You guys are met the position. I'm quite sound. Got

3098
02:53:44,200 --> 02:53:48,800
Speaker 1: in Virgil's name and my mama's name. I'm telling you

3099
02:53:48,920 --> 02:53:51,880
Speaker 1: what it is. Let me put some game around this

3100
02:53:52,040 --> 02:53:54,680
Speaker 1: when you hit these guys and I try to pull

3101
02:53:54,800 --> 02:53:56,760
Speaker 1: this from the grates when they speak about a life

3102
02:53:56,879 --> 02:54:01,560
Speaker 1: missing right, because I truly believe that this communication thing

3103
02:54:01,760 --> 02:54:03,960
Speaker 1: is my life mission. Right. It's just starting as a

3104
02:54:05,280 --> 02:54:09,640
Speaker 1: very niched, infantile version of what I planned on it

3105
02:54:09,760 --> 02:54:13,119
Speaker 1: to be. But when you hear people who are still

3106
02:54:13,240 --> 02:54:15,600
Speaker 1: executing at a high level and how they speak to

3107
02:54:15,760 --> 02:54:17,800
Speaker 1: what it is they've been through when got going on,

3108
02:54:19,000 --> 02:54:21,320
Speaker 1: it kind of helps you understand what's at stake and

3109
02:54:21,400 --> 02:54:25,920
Speaker 1: what they've had to encounter on they come up. You

3110
02:54:26,040 --> 02:54:29,200
Speaker 1: got to thank somebody told that boy he couldn't sell clothes,

3111
02:54:29,280 --> 02:54:31,600
Speaker 1: that he needed to keep rapping. What are you doing

3112
02:54:31,720 --> 02:54:34,640
Speaker 1: that dude? That is worth ain't probably got the biggest

3113
02:54:34,680 --> 02:54:38,039
Speaker 1: brand in the culture and I ain't talking and when

3114
02:54:38,080 --> 02:54:41,920
Speaker 1: I say coach, I ain't just talking. I'm talking pop

3115
02:54:42,040 --> 02:54:46,520
Speaker 1: culture culture period. Jesus probably one of the biggest brands,

3116
02:54:46,760 --> 02:54:51,760
Speaker 1: and when you deal with a certain demographic and age group.

3117
02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:53,680
Speaker 1: But I try to pull that from them guys when

3118
02:54:53,720 --> 02:54:56,039
Speaker 1: they speak about the life mission and being so aware

3119
02:54:56,280 --> 02:54:59,800
Speaker 1: of himself. One thing about Kanye, even at the very

3120
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,520
Speaker 1: early stages, he was aware of what it is he's done.

3121
02:55:02,560 --> 02:55:05,440
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you how hard that is, right me,

3122
02:55:05,600 --> 02:55:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys. It's real self aware and

3123
02:55:07,920 --> 02:55:10,720
Speaker 1: confident about what we have going on. I understand I

3124
02:55:10,800 --> 02:55:13,080
Speaker 1: got to make the right moves, but I also understand

3125
02:55:13,160 --> 02:55:15,520
Speaker 1: this is a rare thing that's happening. And if we

3126
02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:18,000
Speaker 1: can just harness this and do the right things with it,

3127
02:55:18,320 --> 02:55:21,640
Speaker 1: and God agrees in the universal lines, man, we can

3128
02:55:21,720 --> 02:55:24,480
Speaker 1: make enough money to really, really really change some things

3129
02:55:24,600 --> 02:55:27,920
Speaker 1: for us, our family, I love ones and other people

3130
02:55:28,959 --> 02:55:32,280
Speaker 1: that we can do business with. But it's so much

3131
02:55:32,360 --> 02:55:34,959
Speaker 1: in this conversation that I think people might have looked

3132
02:55:35,040 --> 02:55:38,000
Speaker 1: over when I tell y'all, it ain't about the money,

3133
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:40,520
Speaker 1: It's about the information. When you listen to Kanye, it

3134
02:55:40,640 --> 02:55:43,600
Speaker 1: seem like he's getting information as well. And I would say,

3135
02:55:44,080 --> 02:55:46,760
Speaker 1: when you get to that fight, that's what it be about.

3136
02:55:47,120 --> 02:55:50,400
Speaker 1: It's really about the information when you hit him. Tell gap, Yo,

3137
02:55:50,520 --> 02:55:55,240
Speaker 1: I brought three million emails from Adidas. You know how

3138
02:55:55,320 --> 02:55:58,920
Speaker 1: powerful that is? You know how many black people can

3139
02:55:59,040 --> 02:56:01,480
Speaker 1: really say that? How many of y'all rap dudes that's

3140
02:56:01,560 --> 02:56:05,400
Speaker 1: listening or podcasters? And I say this respectfully because we

3141
02:56:05,600 --> 02:56:08,160
Speaker 1: just want to identify information in the game, But how

3142
02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:10,640
Speaker 1: many of y'all got access to the people that's buying

3143
02:56:10,720 --> 02:56:12,680
Speaker 1: there to stream of your music? How many of y'all

3144
02:56:12,720 --> 02:56:16,560
Speaker 1: got the emails you can contact them when you dropped

3145
02:56:16,640 --> 02:56:20,279
Speaker 1: that day? You know for show, he spent eighty hours listening.

3146
02:56:20,400 --> 02:56:23,440
Speaker 1: This needs to be some kind of standard in the game,

3147
02:56:23,560 --> 02:56:28,520
Speaker 1: even for rappers. Yo. Apple, If I maybe don't need

3148
02:56:28,640 --> 02:56:32,400
Speaker 1: all the information, but if they stream my sixty to

3149
02:56:32,520 --> 02:56:35,760
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time or more, I need access

3150
02:56:35,800 --> 02:56:39,880
Speaker 1: to that info. Man, them is my people, you know

3151
02:56:39,879 --> 02:56:43,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And when he's moving around with that

3152
02:56:44,120 --> 02:56:46,920
Speaker 1: level of information, that makes them very dangerous, right he

3153
02:56:47,080 --> 02:56:49,720
Speaker 1: moving around with information and emails? Yo, I brought four

3154
02:56:49,800 --> 02:56:52,880
Speaker 1: million emails over here. I brought these million emails over here,

3155
02:56:52,879 --> 02:56:54,600
Speaker 1: and I moved around with none of that. We ain't

3156
02:56:54,600 --> 02:56:58,280
Speaker 1: even doing it right. It shows you all he playing

3157
02:56:58,360 --> 02:57:02,360
Speaker 1: that game with them. Know what they after? They need

3158
02:57:02,480 --> 02:57:06,000
Speaker 1: that information? Who's banning three million? Oh god, you got

3159
02:57:06,040 --> 02:57:09,560
Speaker 1: three million onion? Now see for a rap that's three

3160
02:57:09,640 --> 02:57:13,240
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's a thirty million dollar player. Three million

3161
02:57:13,360 --> 02:57:17,600
Speaker 1: emails that doesn't purchase from me, and he's a recurrent customer.

3162
02:57:18,040 --> 02:57:21,120
Speaker 1: If I pop up with three million emails to a company,

3163
02:57:21,200 --> 02:57:24,640
Speaker 1: you better know how powerful that is, my brother, And

3164
02:57:24,800 --> 02:57:27,039
Speaker 1: that's me giving y'all game. So if you got three

3165
02:57:27,160 --> 02:57:30,240
Speaker 1: million listeners or three million subscribers, you need to drillle

3166
02:57:30,280 --> 02:57:32,680
Speaker 1: it down and figure out who what winning well so

3167
02:57:32,879 --> 02:57:35,400
Speaker 1: you can start to leverage that in the market. In

3168
02:57:35,520 --> 02:57:40,920
Speaker 1: the same way, learn from these guys. Number two, here's

3169
02:57:40,959 --> 02:57:42,960
Speaker 1: one of the most important things that I see with

3170
02:57:43,120 --> 02:57:45,959
Speaker 1: Kanye West and what we just saw in this encounter

3171
02:57:46,080 --> 02:57:48,520
Speaker 1: with Gap. This is why I even said to p

3172
02:57:48,720 --> 02:57:50,320
Speaker 1: I said it to him when we was at the

3173
02:57:50,400 --> 02:57:53,400
Speaker 1: premiere of One Trapped. I said, look, it's so important

3174
02:57:53,440 --> 02:57:55,720
Speaker 1: that dudes got you and coach k around them. They

3175
02:57:55,720 --> 02:57:59,480
Speaker 1: don't even know it yet, because sometimes you don't understand,

3176
02:58:00,160 --> 02:58:02,960
Speaker 1: you don't even understand what You're being taught by actions

3177
02:58:03,000 --> 02:58:06,039
Speaker 1: and movements, not by words. Some things ain't even taught

3178
02:58:06,080 --> 02:58:08,400
Speaker 1: by words. So I'm teaching you how to move without

3179
02:58:08,520 --> 02:58:11,280
Speaker 1: telling you how to move. So when I look at

3180
02:58:11,400 --> 02:58:14,880
Speaker 1: Kanye in this situation, I said, he is now doing

3181
02:58:15,000 --> 02:58:18,400
Speaker 1: what Dame dads did for him for it self. Look

3182
02:58:18,440 --> 02:58:21,600
Speaker 1: at him. That's Dame. When you look at him and

3183
02:58:21,720 --> 02:58:24,160
Speaker 1: he's telling them we were not and this is this

3184
02:58:24,320 --> 02:58:27,360
Speaker 1: is spart of this, ain't celebrity. That's Dame. That's what

3185
02:58:27,640 --> 02:58:30,120
Speaker 1: Dame used to do. I think that's what he pulled

3186
02:58:30,200 --> 02:58:33,160
Speaker 1: from Dame. Back in the day. I remember them asking, yo,

3187
02:58:33,920 --> 02:58:36,200
Speaker 1: who you're going within the split and he said Dame.

3188
02:58:36,320 --> 02:58:39,720
Speaker 1: People didn't understand why, because I'm closer to Jigger. I'm

3189
02:58:39,800 --> 02:58:43,400
Speaker 1: closer like Jigger than I am like Dame. I'm nothing

3190
02:58:43,480 --> 02:58:46,880
Speaker 1: like Dame. I need a couple of those characteristics he

3191
02:58:47,080 --> 02:58:50,480
Speaker 1: operate with with Jigger with the wrap thing, I got

3192
02:58:50,560 --> 02:58:52,640
Speaker 1: a little hustle in. I might can figure that out.

3193
02:58:52,760 --> 02:58:55,240
Speaker 1: I got product on my side, though, you know what

3194
02:58:55,280 --> 02:58:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I got Jigger with the wrap thing

3195
02:58:57,480 --> 02:58:59,360
Speaker 1: and the beat thing. I kind of helped him with that.

3196
02:58:59,480 --> 02:59:02,760
Speaker 1: So I feel confident in music. But dude over there

3197
02:59:02,879 --> 02:59:04,960
Speaker 1: got something when he going in rooms. He got a

3198
02:59:05,000 --> 02:59:09,240
Speaker 1: certain tenacity, a certain vibration he operate with. And I'm

3199
02:59:09,280 --> 02:59:11,520
Speaker 1: telling you, when you look at this, you say, damn,

3200
02:59:12,640 --> 02:59:15,720
Speaker 1: that's he is now doing for hisself what Dame did

3201
02:59:15,879 --> 02:59:19,000
Speaker 1: for Jay for him for other people back in the day.

3202
02:59:19,400 --> 02:59:22,040
Speaker 1: That reminded me so much of Leo con that in

3203
02:59:22,240 --> 02:59:25,960
Speaker 1: that interaction when Dame Dash was in that room going

3204
02:59:26,040 --> 02:59:28,959
Speaker 1: at it with Leo Cohn some people in some suits

3205
02:59:29,000 --> 02:59:32,480
Speaker 1: about some situation with jay Z. And then to see

3206
02:59:32,560 --> 02:59:36,039
Speaker 1: that from someone like Kanye that has a visible conversion

3207
02:59:36,120 --> 02:59:38,520
Speaker 1: in the market. He's one of those guys that can

3208
02:59:38,600 --> 02:59:40,920
Speaker 1: really put up a website, put up a product, and

3209
02:59:41,040 --> 02:59:44,199
Speaker 1: it be gone. It's very few people that can really

3210
02:59:44,320 --> 02:59:46,760
Speaker 1: move product at the product, at the product at the

3211
02:59:46,840 --> 02:59:50,840
Speaker 1: product in that way without any real structure behind it.

3212
02:59:51,000 --> 02:59:54,760
Speaker 1: In regards to everybody posted at the same time, everybody

3213
02:59:54,879 --> 02:59:57,360
Speaker 1: rocking at the same time, he's passed that. He used

3214
02:59:57,360 --> 03:00:00,360
Speaker 1: to do that. Send shoes here, shit shoe, shoe shoot shoot,

3215
03:00:00,800 --> 03:00:03,600
Speaker 1: and then next thing, you know, everybody kind of got

3216
03:00:03,720 --> 03:00:05,400
Speaker 1: him on. Now he's to a point where he can

3217
03:00:05,480 --> 03:00:07,959
Speaker 1: just kim k two. You know, they can just kind

3218
03:00:08,000 --> 03:00:10,640
Speaker 1: of put up. Jay can do it, Beyonce can do it.

3219
03:00:10,640 --> 03:00:13,240
Speaker 1: It's certain names can do it, but everybody can't do it.

3220
03:00:13,360 --> 03:00:15,400
Speaker 1: Ain't talking about for a T shirt. I'm talking about

3221
03:00:15,440 --> 03:00:19,080
Speaker 1: for us real products. Rihanna can do it too. Put

3222
03:00:19,160 --> 03:00:22,920
Speaker 1: some respect on Rere. She definitely selling now right. So

3223
03:00:23,040 --> 03:00:26,120
Speaker 1: it's certain people in the culture that bags up to

3224
03:00:26,200 --> 03:00:29,200
Speaker 1: the corner and sell us out, you know what I'm saying,

3225
03:00:29,240 --> 03:00:31,199
Speaker 1: And that when I say corn, I mean the Internet

3226
03:00:31,240 --> 03:00:33,960
Speaker 1: because that's the corner of the world. But it's even

3227
03:00:34,040 --> 03:00:37,000
Speaker 1: crazy to see someone like Kanye have to try to

3228
03:00:37,080 --> 03:00:42,640
Speaker 1: explain his value to them, like damn, y'all don't like

3229
03:00:42,840 --> 03:00:45,520
Speaker 1: y'all know that that y'all or do they not know?

3230
03:00:46,040 --> 03:00:48,760
Speaker 1: But I think that's what board means are though. It's

3231
03:00:48,800 --> 03:00:53,160
Speaker 1: a constant trying to explain the worth, the value, constantly

3232
03:00:53,280 --> 03:00:55,600
Speaker 1: trying to explain kind of what the next movie is,

3233
03:00:55,640 --> 03:00:58,880
Speaker 1: and wise worth more and investors poor more in, poor

3234
03:00:59,080 --> 03:01:01,959
Speaker 1: more in let's make more of those, Let's stop making

3235
03:01:02,040 --> 03:01:04,480
Speaker 1: some of those. His are the last quarter numbers. This

3236
03:01:04,680 --> 03:01:07,480
Speaker 1: next quarter projection said we should do this based on

3237
03:01:07,560 --> 03:01:10,200
Speaker 1: the last five years. Put those who right. So it's

3238
03:01:10,240 --> 03:01:13,640
Speaker 1: a lot happening in those boardrooms. But how much of

3239
03:01:13,840 --> 03:01:18,480
Speaker 1: that translates to them understanding how effective someone they are

3240
03:01:18,560 --> 03:01:23,120
Speaker 1: working with is in the market. No, I mean, I

3241
03:01:23,240 --> 03:01:25,680
Speaker 1: think when you look at Kanye, he has one of

3242
03:01:25,760 --> 03:01:28,879
Speaker 1: the highest conversions in regards to us, because I look

3243
03:01:28,920 --> 03:01:31,400
Speaker 1: at us like a community. I look at us like

3244
03:01:31,480 --> 03:01:33,840
Speaker 1: a community when you deal with who has the highest

3245
03:01:33,879 --> 03:01:37,320
Speaker 1: conversion with products in our culture. I look at people

3246
03:01:37,440 --> 03:01:43,760
Speaker 1: like Kanye, like, did it that's sold Delian even wrap snacks?

3247
03:01:43,840 --> 03:01:46,320
Speaker 1: Now he's converted. Look at how much product he's been

3248
03:01:46,400 --> 03:01:50,160
Speaker 1: able to move over the last four years, three years,

3249
03:01:50,440 --> 03:01:53,120
Speaker 1: even though he's been a brand probably before that. But

3250
03:01:53,240 --> 03:01:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's been this boom that has happened that's

3251
03:01:55,959 --> 03:01:58,920
Speaker 1: allowed him to move much more product than people may

3252
03:01:59,040 --> 03:02:03,320
Speaker 1: really to stand. But I always say in regards to

3253
03:02:03,520 --> 03:02:08,160
Speaker 1: conversion in the market, in regards to having products move

3254
03:02:08,680 --> 03:02:12,440
Speaker 1: amongst this space. You deal with Jay with the with

3255
03:02:12,600 --> 03:02:14,720
Speaker 1: his also with his liquor, Like I said, did it

3256
03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:18,240
Speaker 1: with the liquor? Is they going crazy? Ross got a liquor.

3257
03:02:18,360 --> 03:02:21,199
Speaker 1: Couple of things happening, right, you gotta have some things

3258
03:02:21,280 --> 03:02:24,840
Speaker 1: outside of that happening. Real estate. I know, pe got

3259
03:02:24,920 --> 03:02:26,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of real estate, right, We got some real

3260
03:02:27,040 --> 03:02:30,080
Speaker 1: estate on this side. So we try to operate outside

3261
03:02:30,120 --> 03:02:32,880
Speaker 1: of what music is because that is rially like a

3262
03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:35,879
Speaker 1: commercial for the money. But do we have to explain

3263
03:02:36,000 --> 03:02:39,040
Speaker 1: that and explain that and explain that and explain that

3264
03:02:39,160 --> 03:02:41,360
Speaker 1: when I can put it, he's telling them, man, I

3265
03:02:41,480 --> 03:02:44,080
Speaker 1: sold out. We sold eighty million dollars worth a product

3266
03:02:44,120 --> 03:02:47,080
Speaker 1: off of commercial and never ran it again. You have

3267
03:02:47,280 --> 03:02:51,320
Speaker 1: Kanye without the reaching the music entertainment industry during a

3268
03:02:51,440 --> 03:02:54,480
Speaker 1: show that's selling out eighty thousand seats two nights in

3269
03:02:54,560 --> 03:02:56,959
Speaker 1: a row, and we could have went through this many

3270
03:02:57,040 --> 03:03:00,240
Speaker 1: thousand seats. And y'all we have never did a show together,

3271
03:03:00,360 --> 03:03:03,080
Speaker 1: or fashion show or any kind of what are we doing? Like,

3272
03:03:03,240 --> 03:03:06,040
Speaker 1: what are we doing? We're not utilizing the partnership in

3273
03:03:06,080 --> 03:03:08,800
Speaker 1: a way that's effective, And sometimes it just takes a

3274
03:03:08,920 --> 03:03:11,880
Speaker 1: real conversation to look, how do we capitalize off this

3275
03:03:12,080 --> 03:03:14,960
Speaker 1: partnership in a real way. I know y'all gave me

3276
03:03:15,080 --> 03:03:17,000
Speaker 1: some money. I'm rich. Yeah, World war Ward, That's cool,

3277
03:03:17,040 --> 03:03:20,879
Speaker 1: I've been rich. I'm looking at legacy, I'm looking at longevity,

3278
03:03:20,920 --> 03:03:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking at length in this game, I'm looking at

3279
03:03:24,040 --> 03:03:26,560
Speaker 1: what this is. How do we make sure that I'm

3280
03:03:26,840 --> 03:03:30,320
Speaker 1: amplified in a way that sustains my brand these next

3281
03:03:30,400 --> 03:03:32,959
Speaker 1: four or five years that I'm with y'all, and also

3282
03:03:33,160 --> 03:03:37,040
Speaker 1: makes it attractive for us to continue doing business. Not

3283
03:03:37,240 --> 03:03:40,240
Speaker 1: only is he clearing his conversion, he's also clear that, Yo,

3284
03:03:40,400 --> 03:03:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm big with the children, the high school and all that.

3285
03:03:43,200 --> 03:03:46,080
Speaker 1: Nobody don't do that like me. They love my ship.

3286
03:03:46,600 --> 03:03:50,039
Speaker 1: They love when easy slides and easy it's and easy

3287
03:03:50,200 --> 03:03:53,520
Speaker 1: that I got them. We gotta capitalize on that with Gap,

3288
03:03:53,640 --> 03:03:57,039
Speaker 1: with y'all already having stores in every city, every mall

3289
03:03:57,720 --> 03:04:00,920
Speaker 1: make let's put easy at the forefront that other shot

3290
03:04:01,160 --> 03:04:03,760
Speaker 1: in the back. That's basically what he's telling them. And

3291
03:04:03,920 --> 03:04:07,640
Speaker 1: sometimes they may come off as harsh, but not after

3292
03:04:07,720 --> 03:04:10,199
Speaker 1: you proven. I think it only comes off as harsh

3293
03:04:10,280 --> 03:04:14,880
Speaker 1: and breads when you haven't done it before. After you've

3294
03:04:14,920 --> 03:04:17,240
Speaker 1: done it, I think they can't do number of respect it.

3295
03:04:18,040 --> 03:04:21,119
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this for this two times. Just did

3296
03:04:21,200 --> 03:04:24,279
Speaker 1: this interview on Big Facts. Shout out Revote TV Family,

3297
03:04:24,680 --> 03:04:29,320
Speaker 1: shout out Jay Big Bank, DJ Screen. You know I

3298
03:04:29,440 --> 03:04:31,360
Speaker 1: reached out the Bank about that and say, man, I'm

3299
03:04:31,360 --> 03:04:33,240
Speaker 1: proud of where you're taking this and how you've been

3300
03:04:33,320 --> 03:04:36,840
Speaker 1: handling these interviews. You know you've been really on your ship,

3301
03:04:37,080 --> 03:04:41,080
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of that. And I just had seen

3302
03:04:41,240 --> 03:04:44,560
Speaker 1: Baby Jade at the Untrapped documentary. You know, we'll hold

3303
03:04:44,600 --> 03:04:46,800
Speaker 1: the South down. They hold their inn up. I whold

3304
03:04:46,840 --> 03:04:49,320
Speaker 1: my inn up. Make sure everything is covered in a

3305
03:04:49,400 --> 03:04:52,040
Speaker 1: way that's legit. But for this two times when he

3306
03:04:52,160 --> 03:04:55,600
Speaker 1: spoke about a lot of different things clearly had changed

3307
03:04:55,680 --> 03:04:58,840
Speaker 1: individual after the bid. The bid always if you're a

3308
03:04:59,040 --> 03:05:02,359
Speaker 1: thinker and you gotta do that kind of stritch sometimes

3309
03:05:02,920 --> 03:05:05,360
Speaker 1: most times that are fixed you in a way where

3310
03:05:05,400 --> 03:05:08,680
Speaker 1: you come out a little sharper. Some of the homeboards

3311
03:05:08,720 --> 03:05:12,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of look slow than others. They still come

3312
03:05:12,160 --> 03:05:14,680
Speaker 1: out with the same plan with a little tweak on it.

3313
03:05:15,000 --> 03:05:17,320
Speaker 1: But if you got any kind of position, any kind

3314
03:05:17,360 --> 03:05:20,040
Speaker 1: of opportunity, when you come out of there, and you

3315
03:05:20,200 --> 03:05:22,760
Speaker 1: really a thinker, you don't devise some kind of plan.

3316
03:05:23,480 --> 03:05:25,480
Speaker 1: And when you come from the bottom like me, and

3317
03:05:25,560 --> 03:05:27,680
Speaker 1: you come from this for reality, because I come from

3318
03:05:27,760 --> 03:05:31,440
Speaker 1: off the ugly corner I come from, ain't nothing cute

3319
03:05:31,480 --> 03:05:35,080
Speaker 1: around the d thing looked like the slums, not know more.

3320
03:05:35,120 --> 03:05:37,480
Speaker 1: They ungentrified it. But when I were coming up, it

3321
03:05:37,600 --> 03:05:40,840
Speaker 1: looked terrible and we loved it. This was what we

3322
03:05:41,160 --> 03:05:43,960
Speaker 1: this is what we had our best times that and

3323
03:05:44,080 --> 03:05:47,000
Speaker 1: so you kind of understand that, Hey, these circumstances that

3324
03:05:47,120 --> 03:05:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm up against ain't gonna allow me to play the

3325
03:05:49,240 --> 03:05:52,080
Speaker 1: same game. Y'all. Play y'all ain't never been through nothing.

3326
03:05:52,480 --> 03:05:54,520
Speaker 1: And I can tell because you're playing with fire like

3327
03:05:54,600 --> 03:05:56,520
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna burn you. I know where to burn

3328
03:05:56,640 --> 03:05:59,280
Speaker 1: you in. Some people don't mind burns on their face,

3329
03:05:59,440 --> 03:06:02,160
Speaker 1: but I got people depending on me, so I can't

3330
03:06:02,360 --> 03:06:04,760
Speaker 1: play them same games, y'all player. I let y'all do

3331
03:06:04,879 --> 03:06:07,200
Speaker 1: that alone, y'all trying to out tough for each other.

3332
03:06:07,720 --> 03:06:11,000
Speaker 1: I let y'all have that. I remember for this being

3333
03:06:11,040 --> 03:06:12,880
Speaker 1: in jail ce because I'm from the South, so I

3334
03:06:12,920 --> 03:06:15,879
Speaker 1: already knew who for this was. I was already following him.

3335
03:06:16,160 --> 03:06:18,600
Speaker 1: I remember him being in jail trying to do verses

3336
03:06:18,640 --> 03:06:22,000
Speaker 1: for five hundred. Yo, I'll do a verse right now.

3337
03:06:22,120 --> 03:06:24,600
Speaker 1: Five hundred sent it and let me know he was

3338
03:06:24,680 --> 03:06:27,680
Speaker 1: in he would need some money right but in there

3339
03:06:27,800 --> 03:06:30,119
Speaker 1: he knew when I get out, I'm gonna turn up.

3340
03:06:30,879 --> 03:06:33,800
Speaker 1: I still don't believe he understood what turn up looked like.

3341
03:06:34,000 --> 03:06:36,640
Speaker 1: He knew it's gonna be some money flowing. But I

3342
03:06:36,760 --> 03:06:39,360
Speaker 1: think now he like, hey, this is bigger than I thought.

3343
03:06:39,680 --> 03:06:42,560
Speaker 1: But jails tend to change your man. Man. It tends

3344
03:06:42,560 --> 03:06:45,240
Speaker 1: to show you the inside of the T shirt, right.

3345
03:06:45,320 --> 03:06:47,320
Speaker 1: It show you the other side of this game that

3346
03:06:47,440 --> 03:06:49,800
Speaker 1: they everybody to glorify his life, that they everybody to

3347
03:06:49,879 --> 03:06:52,480
Speaker 1: rap about it. Show you what it's like when ain't

3348
03:06:52,520 --> 03:06:55,280
Speaker 1: nobody answering cause and you need head, and ain't nobody

3349
03:06:55,400 --> 03:07:00,600
Speaker 1: coming through and give you different understanding on what the

3350
03:07:00,760 --> 03:07:04,320
Speaker 1: game offers versus what you actually get from the game.

3351
03:07:06,040 --> 03:07:09,160
Speaker 1: If you think the government put tax on you or

3352
03:07:09,280 --> 03:07:12,119
Speaker 1: the streets put text on your life, the government isn't

3353
03:07:12,160 --> 03:07:16,360
Speaker 1: walk into pall. You get three years of balling for

3354
03:07:16,520 --> 03:07:21,240
Speaker 1: ten years in the penitentiary and beef in death sometime,

3355
03:07:22,200 --> 03:07:26,360
Speaker 1: you know. But sometimes when I look at it, I

3356
03:07:26,480 --> 03:07:31,120
Speaker 1: see dudes go to prison and change, and I say, damn,

3357
03:07:31,200 --> 03:07:33,560
Speaker 1: prison might be the best thing to happen to something.

3358
03:07:33,840 --> 03:07:37,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes prison a change before death. A lot of times

3359
03:07:37,959 --> 03:07:42,760
Speaker 1: guys accept death before prison because death is final, so

3360
03:07:42,959 --> 03:07:45,920
Speaker 1: you don't get a chance to reflect prison and lock

3361
03:07:46,040 --> 03:07:48,800
Speaker 1: you in a situation and say, look at what's happening now,

3362
03:07:49,440 --> 03:07:52,959
Speaker 1: because whenever you transition and die, that's your last lesson

3363
03:07:53,360 --> 03:07:55,920
Speaker 1: and I don't believe your age is considering that. But

3364
03:07:56,120 --> 03:07:58,520
Speaker 1: sometimes in jail you have a chance to sit in

3365
03:07:58,600 --> 03:08:01,000
Speaker 1: these white people head hole, and what they meant to

3366
03:08:01,120 --> 03:08:04,240
Speaker 1: break you actually saved you, because now you learn to

3367
03:08:04,320 --> 03:08:07,800
Speaker 1: survive in the worst case scenario. And once I learned

3368
03:08:07,840 --> 03:08:11,720
Speaker 1: to survive, because because self preservation is the first law survival.

3369
03:08:11,800 --> 03:08:14,680
Speaker 1: Once I learned to survive, now I start to create

3370
03:08:14,760 --> 03:08:18,240
Speaker 1: a plan. And once you placed me in a worst

3371
03:08:18,280 --> 03:08:21,400
Speaker 1: case scenario and I survived, you don't know what they've

3372
03:08:21,440 --> 03:08:24,120
Speaker 1: just done to my confidence. I've seen an African dude

3373
03:08:24,200 --> 03:08:28,440
Speaker 1: whoop on a lion the other day for his family,

3374
03:08:28,520 --> 03:08:30,520
Speaker 1: took his out and the thing. And I know when

3375
03:08:30,520 --> 03:08:33,600
Speaker 1: I say that, you're gonna say what a lion came

3376
03:08:33,680 --> 03:08:35,880
Speaker 1: to take his family. He fought the lion, killed the

3377
03:08:35,959 --> 03:08:39,440
Speaker 1: lion barehand. When them African dude, skinny dude, but he

3378
03:08:39,600 --> 03:08:43,560
Speaker 1: got heart. So what I'm saying is when you bag

3379
03:08:43,680 --> 03:08:46,520
Speaker 1: him into a corner and then needs are the results

3380
03:08:46,560 --> 03:08:48,879
Speaker 1: you deal with. You gotta deal with me knowing them

3381
03:08:48,920 --> 03:08:51,440
Speaker 1: as the results. When they bagged me in the corner,

3382
03:08:52,640 --> 03:08:55,119
Speaker 1: say boy, they put me in the hole. They put

3383
03:08:55,200 --> 03:08:57,160
Speaker 1: them in the head hole, and I come out smarter

3384
03:08:57,280 --> 03:09:01,240
Speaker 1: than Eville, but you got to know how to channel

3385
03:09:01,280 --> 03:09:04,880
Speaker 1: that energy into some other than that criminal activity that

3386
03:09:05,000 --> 03:09:09,800
Speaker 1: you thought you had masterminded, because technology has caught up

3387
03:09:09,840 --> 03:09:12,400
Speaker 1: with that game in a way where it's so lopside it.

3388
03:09:12,959 --> 03:09:14,920
Speaker 1: But let's listen to a little bit of what Winny

3389
03:09:15,040 --> 03:09:17,800
Speaker 1: said when he went over the big facts, like the

3390
03:09:17,879 --> 03:09:21,040
Speaker 1: screets raising, but jail raised me. And like I said,

3391
03:09:21,080 --> 03:09:22,920
Speaker 1: I spoke about the principles in the moors, and that's

3392
03:09:22,920 --> 03:09:25,600
Speaker 1: what I'm speaking on now, like because it's the top

3393
03:09:25,640 --> 03:09:27,800
Speaker 1: of it was on like the principers in the morals

3394
03:09:27,879 --> 03:09:31,040
Speaker 1: and nerds totally different than the streets. So you know

3395
03:09:31,080 --> 03:09:33,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it gets down in the details,

3396
03:09:34,280 --> 03:09:37,320
Speaker 1: it gets very technical, you know what I'm saying. And

3397
03:09:37,440 --> 03:09:40,560
Speaker 1: sometimes I could be very technical because there's been my

3398
03:09:40,640 --> 03:09:43,360
Speaker 1: surrounding for them there all my life. You see what

3399
03:09:43,400 --> 03:09:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's kind of like when I get

3400
03:09:45,760 --> 03:09:47,040
Speaker 1: out here. When I got out here, a lot of

3401
03:09:47,120 --> 03:09:49,600
Speaker 1: people don't understand that. Like a lot of people don't

3402
03:09:49,600 --> 03:09:52,440
Speaker 1: say excuse me. A lot of people don't say, part

3403
03:09:53,920 --> 03:09:57,440
Speaker 1: excuse me. You got the biggest the biggest guys in

3404
03:09:57,560 --> 03:09:59,280
Speaker 1: the room, in the energy of your house in the

3405
03:09:59,360 --> 03:10:02,520
Speaker 1: part who can bump you or drop something in front

3406
03:10:02,520 --> 03:10:04,800
Speaker 1: of you, ain't been over about you and say excusing me, sir.

3407
03:10:05,200 --> 03:10:08,280
Speaker 1: Respect you know he will crush you, but out of

3408
03:10:08,320 --> 03:10:11,280
Speaker 1: respect and principle, he don't. He ain't on that, so

3409
03:10:11,400 --> 03:10:13,440
Speaker 1: he's trying to really, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

3410
03:10:13,440 --> 03:10:15,600
Speaker 1: So he's gonna excuse me, sir. He's been down there

3411
03:10:15,680 --> 03:10:17,760
Speaker 1: and keep on moving, so you know what I'm saying.

3412
03:10:18,000 --> 03:10:20,480
Speaker 1: Like you said, like this was missing out of today,

3413
03:10:20,520 --> 03:10:23,000
Speaker 1: A lot of people ain't been in that enviting he

3414
03:10:23,120 --> 03:10:25,160
Speaker 1: said something. I said. There's some of them, some real

3415
03:10:26,320 --> 03:10:29,640
Speaker 1: said some of them guys in there is telling you say,

3416
03:10:30,480 --> 03:10:33,280
Speaker 1: you got fifteen years then why I live it though?

3417
03:10:33,840 --> 03:10:36,200
Speaker 1: This like this is why I stay at did my

3418
03:10:36,360 --> 03:10:39,720
Speaker 1: house for the rest of my life. Though. Just picture

3419
03:10:39,760 --> 03:10:42,240
Speaker 1: that this hellhole that you here crying about and you

3420
03:10:42,320 --> 03:10:45,400
Speaker 1: get out in twenty twenty nine. This is why I

3421
03:10:45,520 --> 03:10:47,800
Speaker 1: live at forever then, And I already been in here

3422
03:10:47,879 --> 03:10:51,240
Speaker 1: or dub And if you live somewhere, you know how

3423
03:10:51,280 --> 03:10:53,680
Speaker 1: to hash in the house. You know how to move

3424
03:10:53,800 --> 03:10:56,039
Speaker 1: in the house in a way that a passing through,

3425
03:10:56,200 --> 03:10:59,400
Speaker 1: don't you know what I mean? But I always tell

3426
03:10:59,480 --> 03:11:02,920
Speaker 1: my child this about respect, you know, excuse me, man,

3427
03:11:03,000 --> 03:11:05,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Man. Like Wayno

3428
03:11:05,720 --> 03:11:09,160
Speaker 1: walked up on me at the QC thing, it was like, yo, loon, Bro,

3429
03:11:09,560 --> 03:11:11,840
Speaker 1: you'd be kicking it and I'm like, yo, bro, thank

3430
03:11:11,920 --> 03:11:15,360
Speaker 1: you so much. Bro, Like, I really appreciate that. Like

3431
03:11:15,480 --> 03:11:18,480
Speaker 1: they don't know how that affect me, coming from the town,

3432
03:11:18,680 --> 03:11:22,080
Speaker 1: coming from the ugly corner, not understanding what this is

3433
03:11:22,200 --> 03:11:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Had to really believe in myself. So when

3434
03:11:25,440 --> 03:11:29,680
Speaker 1: people in the industrial or that really know who are

3435
03:11:29,800 --> 03:11:33,360
Speaker 1: great communicators in this game reach out to me or

3436
03:11:33,520 --> 03:11:37,160
Speaker 1: tell me, yo, loon, you wanted them bro, They yo,

3437
03:11:37,800 --> 03:11:40,840
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yo, man, it's it's working. But anyway,

3438
03:11:41,360 --> 03:11:43,959
Speaker 1: Jill gonna do something to you man, Like if you're

3439
03:11:43,959 --> 03:11:47,400
Speaker 1: a thinker, anyway, it's gonna put you in a situation

3440
03:11:47,480 --> 03:11:49,920
Speaker 1: to come out and want something better for yourself. If

3441
03:11:50,040 --> 03:11:54,959
Speaker 1: you are thinker. He was raised on a different platform

3442
03:11:55,400 --> 03:11:57,640
Speaker 1: and I came from a different platform. You see what

3443
03:11:57,640 --> 03:11:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was, you know what I'm saying, Like

3444
03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:02,199
Speaker 1: I had. I was forced because I ain't know no better,

3445
03:12:02,560 --> 03:12:05,560
Speaker 1: but I learned. It's what I'm saying. I say, excuse me,

3446
03:12:05,640 --> 03:12:08,640
Speaker 1: I say thank you, to all my people. My people

3447
03:12:08,720 --> 03:12:18,760
Speaker 1: bring me some. I appreciate you. Brooy, this man got pride.

3448
03:12:20,080 --> 03:12:23,000
Speaker 1: See the problem is, and that's that's something we gotta

3449
03:12:23,080 --> 03:12:26,240
Speaker 1: learn to understand. Don't go big on your people. Right

3450
03:12:26,320 --> 03:12:29,400
Speaker 1: when I was sitting there thinking about getting a picture

3451
03:12:29,440 --> 03:12:31,400
Speaker 1: with baby Like, I was like, man, he ain't. One

3452
03:12:31,440 --> 03:12:33,920
Speaker 1: of them went over to him. Bro, we gotta you

3453
03:12:34,000 --> 03:12:35,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm here with y'all. But it

3454
03:12:36,040 --> 03:12:39,360
Speaker 1: be sometimes you be thinking, man is gonna go big

3455
03:12:39,520 --> 03:12:42,160
Speaker 1: or try to go big on the I even see

3456
03:12:42,200 --> 03:12:44,440
Speaker 1: it on camera sometimes when guys be like, hey, yo,

3457
03:12:44,560 --> 03:12:48,720
Speaker 1: bring me to one of their homeboards, Like yo, man,

3458
03:12:48,840 --> 03:12:50,920
Speaker 1: like you're kind of going big on your people, Like

3459
03:12:51,400 --> 03:12:54,039
Speaker 1: it should be some respect, it should be some love.

3460
03:12:54,360 --> 03:12:57,879
Speaker 1: It should be some embracing going on versus some directing

3461
03:12:58,520 --> 03:13:01,680
Speaker 1: even though it's cerbious. But he needs to know it's serious.

3462
03:13:01,720 --> 03:13:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't need to have to tell him it's serious.

3463
03:13:04,000 --> 03:13:06,280
Speaker 1: And if you don't know it's serious, I still love you.

3464
03:13:06,400 --> 03:13:09,400
Speaker 1: But this ain't the place for you because what's involved

3465
03:13:09,480 --> 03:13:12,760
Speaker 1: in this coach morning, you can pay me back. So

3466
03:13:12,959 --> 03:13:15,640
Speaker 1: the mistakes you make in this arena and the fumbles

3467
03:13:15,720 --> 03:13:17,960
Speaker 1: that you encounter, it ain't like on the street home

3468
03:13:19,120 --> 03:13:21,120
Speaker 1: when I can put a two on something. Get that

3469
03:13:21,240 --> 03:13:23,440
Speaker 1: little sh back this right here, I'm dealing with these

3470
03:13:23,560 --> 03:13:26,120
Speaker 1: high powered people. We can't make no mistakes on this.

3471
03:13:27,280 --> 03:13:29,720
Speaker 1: Got to be own point about all this own business,

3472
03:13:29,840 --> 03:13:32,400
Speaker 1: own point, owned business. And once you select or hand

3473
03:13:32,480 --> 03:13:36,280
Speaker 1: select your men, don't go big on your men. Yeah,

3474
03:13:36,360 --> 03:13:41,480
Speaker 1: even the chef got family. Now, even the janitor got family.

3475
03:13:41,680 --> 03:13:44,400
Speaker 1: Everybody got somebody that look up to them and it

3476
03:13:44,600 --> 03:13:46,760
Speaker 1: being important to them to see them next to you

3477
03:13:47,720 --> 03:13:49,840
Speaker 1: and not see them next to you being treated like

3478
03:13:49,959 --> 03:13:54,160
Speaker 1: a fool. You know what I mean. Everybody got family,

3479
03:13:54,680 --> 03:13:57,320
Speaker 1: and everybody got pride, whether they know how to tuck

3480
03:13:57,360 --> 03:14:01,320
Speaker 1: it or contain it, everybody got it. And it's a man.

3481
03:14:01,400 --> 03:14:04,120
Speaker 1: So you can't feel like you never know who this

3482
03:14:04,200 --> 03:14:07,080
Speaker 1: man gonna be either just because he that now right right, Well,

3483
03:14:07,120 --> 03:14:09,720
Speaker 1: you don't know who this man is yet, right. I

3484
03:14:09,760 --> 03:14:12,440
Speaker 1: don't just boy boy my men, because you can't do

3485
03:14:12,520 --> 03:14:15,840
Speaker 1: that because I stand on principles and morals. Yeah, you know,

3486
03:14:15,920 --> 03:14:17,800
Speaker 1: so I know who I am, I know my position,

3487
03:14:17,879 --> 03:14:20,160
Speaker 1: I know the power I got. But I'm gonna give

3488
03:14:20,160 --> 03:14:22,680
Speaker 1: you the sign of respect. Like got given money, fact

3489
03:14:22,760 --> 03:14:25,959
Speaker 1: I got given over really because I'm trying to motivate

3490
03:14:26,040 --> 03:14:29,840
Speaker 1: you at the same time. So I'm with you right right,

3491
03:14:29,920 --> 03:14:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm gonna let you know that I really

3492
03:14:31,800 --> 03:14:33,560
Speaker 1: hopefully they got them, make you gon on to do

3493
03:14:33,640 --> 03:14:36,280
Speaker 1: what you need to do right right, right right, And

3494
03:14:36,440 --> 03:14:39,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, man, turn your guys up, turn real up,

3495
03:14:40,360 --> 03:14:44,840
Speaker 1: start passing the collection played around. You know, it's enough room,

3496
03:14:44,920 --> 03:14:47,560
Speaker 1: faed bad, It's enough space, faed bad. It ain't gonna

3497
03:14:47,600 --> 03:14:49,760
Speaker 1: need for nobody to be hating or doing none of that.

3498
03:14:50,440 --> 03:14:52,800
Speaker 1: After for this spoke about being in jail and what

3499
03:14:52,959 --> 03:14:55,160
Speaker 1: it was like for him. He then spoke on money

3500
03:14:55,240 --> 03:14:57,400
Speaker 1: bag giling his encounter. Let's take a look at that.

3501
03:14:59,040 --> 03:15:02,080
Speaker 1: I know mental illnesses, but a lot of people don't,

3502
03:15:02,800 --> 03:15:07,800
Speaker 1: and they don't even understand where a person can go

3503
03:15:07,959 --> 03:15:10,080
Speaker 1: through when they see certain things or when they hear

3504
03:15:10,160 --> 03:15:13,400
Speaker 1: certain things. They don't know because they don't go through it. Yeah,

3505
03:15:13,959 --> 03:15:18,000
Speaker 1: they've never been traumatized, you know what I'm saying, And

3506
03:15:18,080 --> 03:15:21,199
Speaker 1: then make an emotional talking about that type of scauld

3507
03:15:21,879 --> 03:15:25,039
Speaker 1: They don't understand. I wish they could, but I'm I'm

3508
03:15:25,920 --> 03:15:27,880
Speaker 1: I feel like one of my major wins is having

3509
03:15:27,920 --> 03:15:31,040
Speaker 1: people around me they understand. So do you feel like

3510
03:15:32,120 --> 03:15:35,520
Speaker 1: those people that you won balanced out those people that

3511
03:15:35,600 --> 03:15:39,480
Speaker 1: you lost? No, because that's my family. The worst thing

3512
03:15:39,560 --> 03:15:42,360
Speaker 1: you can experience is losing family. If you, if you,

3513
03:15:42,600 --> 03:15:45,480
Speaker 1: if you, if you can gout them, just like looking

3514
03:15:45,480 --> 03:15:48,080
Speaker 1: at merror and be like, but she feel like the

3515
03:15:48,200 --> 03:15:50,080
Speaker 1: person right here? But that was my fault for real?

3516
03:15:51,000 --> 03:15:53,960
Speaker 1: Who would that be? Like? You? Jay can be like man,

3517
03:15:54,040 --> 03:15:58,920
Speaker 1: I really won't be like that with you do it?

3518
03:16:01,520 --> 03:16:07,920
Speaker 1: Big fact this big fact money bear Yo, that's hard money.

3519
03:16:07,959 --> 03:16:11,840
Speaker 1: Be yo, that's hard money. Beg yo. What why you what? What?

3520
03:16:12,040 --> 03:16:14,959
Speaker 1: What you uh? What you take? What you call um?

3521
03:16:16,920 --> 03:16:22,680
Speaker 1: What you calibility for in that situation? Everything? Because because dude, dude,

3522
03:16:22,840 --> 03:16:25,600
Speaker 1: dude with keeping in one thousand, you know what I'm

3523
03:16:25,600 --> 03:16:29,080
Speaker 1: saying here allowed me to his platform out of generosity

3524
03:16:29,200 --> 03:16:33,200
Speaker 1: though like out of us being homeboard, out of us

3525
03:16:33,280 --> 03:16:36,680
Speaker 1: being homeboard, proud to me getting out of jail. When

3526
03:16:36,720 --> 03:16:38,720
Speaker 1: he seen it, I was on music time and I

3527
03:16:38,840 --> 03:16:41,760
Speaker 1: was really ready to wrap and ready. He brought me

3528
03:16:41,879 --> 03:16:46,199
Speaker 1: to his platform. And you feel like I joked the guard.

3529
03:16:46,280 --> 03:16:49,920
Speaker 1: I should have understood whether it came from I couldn't.

3530
03:16:50,959 --> 03:16:52,880
Speaker 1: I was too young. I hadn't been there. What you're saying,

3531
03:16:53,000 --> 03:16:57,600
Speaker 1: now you know I should have understood shit again. No, no,

3532
03:16:57,959 --> 03:16:59,840
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, God took me

3533
03:17:00,000 --> 03:17:03,160
Speaker 1: through the five years to make me understand it. That's hard.

3534
03:17:03,760 --> 03:17:06,280
Speaker 1: God took me through them five years to make me

3535
03:17:06,440 --> 03:17:09,520
Speaker 1: understand Hey, man, when I sit back, no matter what

3536
03:17:09,640 --> 03:17:11,800
Speaker 1: we went through, when I sit back and analyzed everything

3537
03:17:11,920 --> 03:17:15,320
Speaker 1: that we had, man, the man conversations about came true

3538
03:17:16,680 --> 03:17:20,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I was wrong. But time

3539
03:17:20,879 --> 03:17:23,840
Speaker 1: had to show me that. Time had to show me

3540
03:17:23,920 --> 03:17:28,200
Speaker 1: that we were wrong because I didn't understand. But he

3541
03:17:28,360 --> 03:17:31,240
Speaker 1: had certain people around him like Zach Randolph and head

3542
03:17:31,400 --> 03:17:34,560
Speaker 1: him show him. So he was trying to show me

3543
03:17:36,040 --> 03:17:43,560
Speaker 1: to listen. He was trying to put me on point

3544
03:17:43,600 --> 03:17:46,720
Speaker 1: about the things around me, about the game, about everything,

3545
03:17:46,800 --> 03:17:49,120
Speaker 1: and it's hard. But the whole time I'm looking at

3546
03:17:49,160 --> 03:17:56,760
Speaker 1: it like jail house. Then god it, I'm gonna push. Yeah,

3547
03:17:56,800 --> 03:18:02,760
Speaker 1: you're thinking like really, but you're on the money, on point. Yes, Yeah,

3548
03:18:03,840 --> 03:18:10,640
Speaker 1: I swear that's solid. You see what I'm saying, And

3549
03:18:12,000 --> 03:18:16,440
Speaker 1: overall that's what That's what I appreciate the most out

3550
03:18:16,480 --> 03:18:19,280
Speaker 1: of my whole beaties that I got to understand about life.

3551
03:18:19,680 --> 03:18:22,560
Speaker 1: You hear him talk about this relationship with money Bag Yo.

3552
03:18:22,680 --> 03:18:25,879
Speaker 1: And for those who are unaware on money Bag Yo's

3553
03:18:25,959 --> 03:18:29,040
Speaker 1: introduction to the game, when he kind of caught fire

3554
03:18:29,320 --> 03:18:31,240
Speaker 1: and started to go up, he kind of formed a

3555
03:18:31,280 --> 03:18:33,480
Speaker 1: little team around him. For this was one of those

3556
03:18:33,640 --> 03:18:37,160
Speaker 1: guys at that time. It was prime young dolf on

3557
03:18:37,440 --> 03:18:39,800
Speaker 1: behalf for that. I think for this kind of jumped

3558
03:18:39,840 --> 03:18:43,200
Speaker 1: into the situation and said a few things and kind

3559
03:18:43,240 --> 03:18:46,040
Speaker 1: of drew a line in the sand. And I think

3560
03:18:46,160 --> 03:18:48,760
Speaker 1: Bag might have told him, Yo, we ain't really addressing

3561
03:18:48,840 --> 03:18:51,360
Speaker 1: none of that, or even if he didn't tell him that,

3562
03:18:51,520 --> 03:18:55,080
Speaker 1: the atmosphere was saying that probably wasn't a good look

3563
03:18:55,120 --> 03:18:58,000
Speaker 1: because we've been kind of just letting that whatever they saying,

3564
03:18:58,120 --> 03:19:01,760
Speaker 1: let that ride. And they kind of got into it

3565
03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:03,720
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then it was a lot of

3566
03:19:03,840 --> 03:19:07,000
Speaker 1: calling out online and this and that, and no, it

3567
03:19:07,320 --> 03:19:09,640
Speaker 1: got kind of got a little crazy. As you see

3568
03:19:09,720 --> 03:19:13,800
Speaker 1: Honeycomb braises saying, you know, they got back cool and out.

3569
03:19:13,840 --> 03:19:16,560
Speaker 1: He don't understanding. We'll speak about that in the second.

3570
03:19:17,280 --> 03:19:20,840
Speaker 1: I understand the fact that especially from money back Yo

3571
03:19:21,120 --> 03:19:23,960
Speaker 1: position number one, because letle Doo was catching on file

3572
03:19:24,560 --> 03:19:27,640
Speaker 1: for nets going hard is really moving out there. So

3573
03:19:27,760 --> 03:19:31,199
Speaker 1: it's a good move to not do what Little Wayne

3574
03:19:31,280 --> 03:19:33,360
Speaker 1: did too, young thug back in the day and kind

3575
03:19:33,400 --> 03:19:36,600
Speaker 1: of wrap your arms around what's coming. If you can't

3576
03:19:36,680 --> 03:19:38,680
Speaker 1: stop it from coming, you kind of need to wrap

3577
03:19:38,800 --> 03:19:40,800
Speaker 1: your arms around it. It's the best move to do.

3578
03:19:41,640 --> 03:19:45,320
Speaker 1: And especially if he's being sincere and like apologetic and

3579
03:19:45,800 --> 03:19:49,120
Speaker 1: in public putting itself really on the limb, because I

3580
03:19:49,200 --> 03:19:51,879
Speaker 1: can really come back out and reject that, yo, man

3581
03:19:52,240 --> 03:19:55,600
Speaker 1: doing all that old as apologizing when like he could

3582
03:19:55,640 --> 03:19:59,640
Speaker 1: have took that route but instead he embraced that. But

3583
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:02,280
Speaker 1: I ain't watching money bag yo do what he's been

3584
03:20:02,360 --> 03:20:04,520
Speaker 1: doing over the last couple of years from a jail

3585
03:20:04,560 --> 03:20:07,760
Speaker 1: seal probably hit different too, You're probably like, man, I

3586
03:20:07,800 --> 03:20:11,520
Speaker 1: could have been right there. We're dude, Like, dude, had

3587
03:20:11,600 --> 03:20:14,080
Speaker 1: me knis in line and were told me this and

3588
03:20:14,200 --> 03:20:16,440
Speaker 1: told me that and told me what we were gonna do.

3589
03:20:17,600 --> 03:20:20,320
Speaker 1: I could have been right there and we went left,

3590
03:20:20,360 --> 03:20:22,520
Speaker 1: and then I started doing that. I mean jail and

3591
03:20:22,879 --> 03:20:25,960
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing, ain't nobody really answering and picking up,

3592
03:20:26,000 --> 03:20:28,440
Speaker 1: and the folks ain't send him in nothing right, get

3593
03:20:28,560 --> 03:20:31,280
Speaker 1: ugly and dog on me. But then you gotta come

3594
03:20:31,320 --> 03:20:34,200
Speaker 1: out and understand what your nixt movie is see. I

3595
03:20:34,360 --> 03:20:36,640
Speaker 1: know one thing about jail is if you're a thinker,

3596
03:20:36,680 --> 03:20:39,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna turn you into a wise man, because you're

3597
03:20:39,959 --> 03:20:43,680
Speaker 1: gonna say this is a total waste of time, Like

3598
03:20:43,959 --> 03:20:46,800
Speaker 1: you probably can't get no more wasteful with your time

3599
03:20:46,879 --> 03:20:50,440
Speaker 1: than being in jail. From a family standpoint, and if

3600
03:20:50,480 --> 03:20:55,160
Speaker 1: you got children and things like that, you become nonexistent

3601
03:20:55,480 --> 03:20:58,800
Speaker 1: in the lives and present in the lives of people

3602
03:20:59,080 --> 03:21:01,959
Speaker 1: who depend on you to be present in their lives.

3603
03:21:02,360 --> 03:21:05,200
Speaker 1: But you better be careful because circumstances to turn a

3604
03:21:05,280 --> 03:21:08,600
Speaker 1: wolf into a dog. So if I come out with

3605
03:21:08,720 --> 03:21:11,000
Speaker 1: a clear mind, and as long as it stay clear,

3606
03:21:11,040 --> 03:21:13,440
Speaker 1: because sometimes you can come out with that fag from

3607
03:21:13,520 --> 03:21:17,760
Speaker 1: jail and be talking that revolutionary talking. I running to

3608
03:21:17,920 --> 03:21:21,400
Speaker 1: you in ten months and you Bag hustling and sipping serving,

3609
03:21:21,480 --> 03:21:24,119
Speaker 1: gone back down. They roll. They didn't got you again.

3610
03:21:24,800 --> 03:21:27,199
Speaker 1: I guess he reached out, the bag squashed the beef,

3611
03:21:27,240 --> 03:21:34,200
Speaker 1: and Bag end up signing him to Bread Gang. They

3612
03:21:34,320 --> 03:21:45,240
Speaker 1: stuck out. Man ain't Ifagy moltazed, Ifagy molotazed, they were

3613
03:21:45,320 --> 03:21:58,640
Speaker 1: going world and I need one of them. Song file

3614
03:21:58,720 --> 03:22:01,320
Speaker 1: though them two together be a hit. I think again.

3615
03:22:01,480 --> 03:22:04,440
Speaker 1: Bag has always been thinking when he came in the game.

3616
03:22:04,959 --> 03:22:06,960
Speaker 1: When he came in the game, he came in the

3617
03:22:07,080 --> 03:22:11,119
Speaker 1: game under scrutiny for signing with got It. They already

3618
03:22:11,200 --> 03:22:12,960
Speaker 1: was saying, Yo, why are you signing with got It?

3619
03:22:13,040 --> 03:22:16,080
Speaker 1: For he did what he knew was right for the business.

3620
03:22:16,520 --> 03:22:19,960
Speaker 1: So again you see him exhibiting an ability to think

3621
03:22:20,040 --> 03:22:22,240
Speaker 1: on his own and do what's right for the business.

3622
03:22:22,560 --> 03:22:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't see nowhere around him ending that with for this,

3623
03:22:26,959 --> 03:22:28,960
Speaker 1: if there was an avenue to do that, it was

3624
03:22:29,040 --> 03:22:31,959
Speaker 1: just the right move, you know what I mean. Dude

3625
03:22:32,080 --> 03:22:34,560
Speaker 1: was coming his sound. It's just he got this little

3626
03:22:34,600 --> 03:22:38,520
Speaker 1: bouncing sound. It's almost like a version of a bag anyway,

3627
03:22:38,560 --> 03:22:41,440
Speaker 1: because they kind of started in that same thing. You know.

3628
03:22:41,560 --> 03:22:44,120
Speaker 1: I think them too together have a cool laurun Just

3629
03:22:44,360 --> 03:22:48,440
Speaker 1: keep that, keep that straight. Now. Everybody wasn't happy about this.

3630
03:22:49,760 --> 03:22:52,360
Speaker 1: You know, us in Tennessee see this and see moves

3631
03:22:52,920 --> 03:22:56,000
Speaker 1: that will make money for both those individuals and their family.

3632
03:22:56,120 --> 03:22:59,360
Speaker 1: But Honeycomb Braisy didn't seem to respect the fact that

3633
03:22:59,480 --> 03:23:01,959
Speaker 1: this is what he did. Let's read a little bit

3634
03:23:02,040 --> 03:23:04,240
Speaker 1: of what he said. Man, I never do some of

3635
03:23:04,320 --> 03:23:06,800
Speaker 1: the stuff these rappers do. I'm just not seeing this man.

3636
03:23:06,879 --> 03:23:09,720
Speaker 1: These people past in real life boy, you might as

3637
03:23:09,720 --> 03:23:13,000
Speaker 1: well make a moving then, because you're a damn good actor. Man.

3638
03:23:13,120 --> 03:23:17,279
Speaker 1: I'm dying like y'all don't understand. I'll never be tricked again.

3639
03:23:18,560 --> 03:23:21,400
Speaker 1: Either you ask spooked or you're scared. It ain't like

3640
03:23:21,520 --> 03:23:23,880
Speaker 1: nobody that though you probably were just telling me that

3641
03:23:25,080 --> 03:23:28,520
Speaker 1: you hear me, you hit me. It's a war going

3642
03:23:28,640 --> 03:23:31,800
Speaker 1: on without that. I'm rapper life for life, my lord

3643
03:23:31,840 --> 03:23:34,160
Speaker 1: to bigger than the world. I never claimed nothing else

3644
03:23:34,240 --> 03:23:38,360
Speaker 1: but are in for well. We be like that for real, man.

3645
03:23:38,440 --> 03:23:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't care about no blocks when nobody's saying man,

3646
03:23:40,800 --> 03:23:43,800
Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna do nothing to braising like I'm real life,

3647
03:23:44,080 --> 03:23:47,080
Speaker 1: y'all man, because alled out or some real sho don't

3648
03:23:47,160 --> 03:23:50,360
Speaker 1: rock with that mob for real, I'm on my own

3649
03:23:50,480 --> 03:23:53,160
Speaker 1: type of time. Everybody flow to me. Y'all know why

3650
03:23:53,200 --> 03:23:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm mad for real other situation real street never feel it.

3651
03:23:59,680 --> 03:24:01,720
Speaker 1: You know a real man squash would be. But ain't

3652
03:24:01,760 --> 03:24:04,400
Speaker 1: nobody going up under nobody that they was at war with?

3653
03:24:04,600 --> 03:24:07,600
Speaker 1: For real? My grandma Grave, I never speak on nothing

3654
03:24:07,680 --> 03:24:10,120
Speaker 1: no more. I'm good. I beg young boy, afraid I

3655
03:24:10,240 --> 03:24:13,080
Speaker 1: ain't link up and do no song gott y'all wrapped

3656
03:24:13,280 --> 03:24:15,720
Speaker 1: fund of hell boy. And this is where it really

3657
03:24:15,800 --> 03:24:19,480
Speaker 1: got crazy that because he put messages up from Finesse.

3658
03:24:20,040 --> 03:24:22,480
Speaker 1: When a person tell you so much, Flash didn't give

3659
03:24:22,480 --> 03:24:25,600
Speaker 1: you every reason not the rock would have hit different

3660
03:24:25,640 --> 03:24:28,680
Speaker 1: for real when you see them with them fresh out.

3661
03:24:29,120 --> 03:24:32,520
Speaker 1: But it's all good though. That's who y'all listen to.

3662
03:24:32,840 --> 03:24:36,760
Speaker 1: I just want to hear them wrapped about no not squashing,

3663
03:24:36,840 --> 03:24:40,600
Speaker 1: no no more, because that's kep so. But basically, what

3664
03:24:40,720 --> 03:24:42,959
Speaker 1: he's saying when he was moving Bag was on fire.

3665
03:24:43,000 --> 03:24:45,520
Speaker 1: He could have got a verse with Bag, but because

3666
03:24:45,560 --> 03:24:48,480
Speaker 1: of Finesse, he stayed away from him. Since everybody saying

3667
03:24:48,480 --> 03:24:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm onst some more type time, I'm just going to

3668
03:24:50,680 --> 03:24:53,920
Speaker 1: post me and his man messages And when y'all see

3669
03:24:53,959 --> 03:24:55,800
Speaker 1: how real life kept and what he was telling me,

3670
03:24:55,920 --> 03:24:59,400
Speaker 1: then y'all judge the situation. And if you're looking at

3671
03:24:59,440 --> 03:25:02,120
Speaker 1: the screen, see the messages, I'm not gonna read all over.

3672
03:25:11,920 --> 03:25:13,600
Speaker 1: And if you're looking at the screen, you see the

3673
03:25:13,680 --> 03:25:24,520
Speaker 1: messages I'm not gonna read all over. And if you're

3674
03:25:24,520 --> 03:25:26,520
Speaker 1: looking at the screen, you see the messages I'm not

3675
03:25:26,600 --> 03:25:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna read all over. So basically here it says that

3676
03:25:36,680 --> 03:25:39,640
Speaker 1: Honeycote sent him a thousand dollars in Jay say, nobody

3677
03:25:39,760 --> 03:25:54,760
Speaker 1: never send him a thousand See these messages, my brother

3678
03:25:54,920 --> 03:26:01,800
Speaker 1: for life. And if you're looking at the screen, you

3679
03:26:01,879 --> 03:26:04,000
Speaker 1: see the messages. I'm not gonna read all of them.

3680
03:26:09,440 --> 03:26:11,840
Speaker 1: And basically I think he's talking about he's talking about money.

3681
03:26:11,879 --> 03:26:14,680
Speaker 1: Bag YEO with this even here says because yeah, I'm

3682
03:26:14,720 --> 03:26:17,360
Speaker 1: not tapping in with none of them riding my way,

3683
03:26:17,480 --> 03:26:19,879
Speaker 1: none of that. You don't send me more than anybody.

3684
03:26:20,120 --> 03:26:22,000
Speaker 1: I want you to be with me, bro, But if

3685
03:26:22,040 --> 03:26:25,640
Speaker 1: you choose them to, I'm not gonna dis on you,

3686
03:26:26,040 --> 03:26:28,080
Speaker 1: but I don't want you to do no bidding with them.

3687
03:26:28,160 --> 03:26:30,720
Speaker 1: And I think he's talking about bag. Now, hey, my

3688
03:26:30,840 --> 03:26:32,840
Speaker 1: mama with a free for net shirt on. That's how

3689
03:26:32,959 --> 03:26:35,640
Speaker 1: real life keeping On my end, I don't think Bradsen

3690
03:26:35,720 --> 03:26:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna be gone too much longer. They need to have

3691
03:26:39,160 --> 03:26:42,400
Speaker 1: a conversation. Let's talk about this. Here's something that I

3692
03:26:42,520 --> 03:26:45,480
Speaker 1: found interesting. Adam twenty two was having a conversation with

3693
03:26:45,600 --> 03:26:49,960
Speaker 1: some of his employees. Again, I applauded Adam for his

3694
03:26:50,160 --> 03:26:54,199
Speaker 1: business acumen in changing and turning that into a network.

3695
03:26:54,600 --> 03:26:56,360
Speaker 1: I know it was on the back of a D

3696
03:26:56,560 --> 03:27:00,280
Speaker 1: and a D kind of brought that vibe, that vibration

3697
03:27:00,440 --> 03:27:02,240
Speaker 1: over there, right, and kind of took some of that

3698
03:27:02,400 --> 03:27:05,760
Speaker 1: weight off of Adam's back. But when you look at

3699
03:27:05,840 --> 03:27:09,000
Speaker 1: his network now, it's really a lot of gang banger

3700
03:27:09,080 --> 03:27:12,200
Speaker 1: So then I question, Yo, and this is way before

3701
03:27:12,280 --> 03:27:14,680
Speaker 1: he's been in this cycle of the news with Joe

3702
03:27:14,760 --> 03:27:17,800
Speaker 1: Budden and some of these other things. But I question

3703
03:27:17,959 --> 03:27:19,840
Speaker 1: how long is he gonna be able to hold them

3704
03:27:20,120 --> 03:27:23,280
Speaker 1: that gang banger type environment down over there? How long

3705
03:27:23,440 --> 03:27:25,960
Speaker 1: is the opportunity gonna be enough over there? Because if

3706
03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:28,879
Speaker 1: you pay attention, we see dudes get shot in Calabasas,

3707
03:27:28,920 --> 03:27:33,000
Speaker 1: stabbed at awards. Right, It's supposed to be all business

3708
03:27:33,080 --> 03:27:36,760
Speaker 1: people here, right, so at some point even the luxury

3709
03:27:36,920 --> 03:27:40,320
Speaker 1: becomes normal, And so I wonder how lone can he

3710
03:27:40,480 --> 03:27:43,720
Speaker 1: hold that environment before things boil over. That's interesting to

3711
03:27:43,840 --> 03:27:46,920
Speaker 1: me just paying attention from Afar looking at it here

3712
03:27:46,920 --> 03:27:49,920
Speaker 1: and now. But as I do deep into it, Bam,

3713
03:27:50,160 --> 03:27:52,600
Speaker 1: there was there was a semblance of what I was

3714
03:27:52,680 --> 03:27:54,880
Speaker 1: talking about. He had some kind of little fight on

3715
03:27:55,040 --> 03:27:58,400
Speaker 1: this network with these dudes were going at it talking

3716
03:27:58,440 --> 03:28:02,520
Speaker 1: about somebody chain got right. So ever, deally they're touting

3717
03:28:02,560 --> 03:28:05,880
Speaker 1: one another and this boils over. This now becomes a

3718
03:28:06,000 --> 03:28:09,960
Speaker 1: fight or what would be a fight. I'm not sure

3719
03:28:10,000 --> 03:28:12,440
Speaker 1: if they actually ran into each other, but I imagine

3720
03:28:12,480 --> 03:28:14,320
Speaker 1: that when they run into each other, it may be

3721
03:28:14,400 --> 03:28:18,200
Speaker 1: a problem just based on the verbiage used in the interaction.

3722
03:28:19,200 --> 03:28:21,760
Speaker 1: And that's me judging with my man eyes right, and

3723
03:28:21,879 --> 03:28:25,680
Speaker 1: how we identify respect and disrespect and what category what

3724
03:28:25,840 --> 03:28:28,360
Speaker 1: I feel like what he was speaking about, where that

3725
03:28:28,560 --> 03:28:32,400
Speaker 1: falls right? And some of these things are just entertainment

3726
03:28:32,440 --> 03:28:34,920
Speaker 1: and content. But some of the content you put out

3727
03:28:35,000 --> 03:28:37,320
Speaker 1: you got to stand by and stand on. And I

3728
03:28:37,440 --> 03:28:41,000
Speaker 1: won't content creators always to keep in mind and what

3729
03:28:41,160 --> 03:28:44,880
Speaker 1: you put out, you must stand by. What I talk about.

3730
03:28:44,920 --> 03:28:47,160
Speaker 1: I try to deal with information I ain't dealt with

3731
03:28:47,280 --> 03:28:52,200
Speaker 1: then one of these out of my emotions. Yet maybe

3732
03:28:52,240 --> 03:28:54,240
Speaker 1: I'll slip and falling go to dealing with one of

3733
03:28:54,320 --> 03:28:56,560
Speaker 1: these guys out of my emotions, and hopefully I'm in

3734
03:28:56,680 --> 03:28:59,680
Speaker 1: business and around some people that can pull my code

3735
03:28:59,760 --> 03:29:02,920
Speaker 1: to But I try to deal with the information provided

3736
03:29:03,000 --> 03:29:06,199
Speaker 1: to the game. I ain't even digging for none, especially

3737
03:29:06,280 --> 03:29:11,240
Speaker 1: when we deal with criminal activity and Hyde camouflagists like

3738
03:29:11,440 --> 03:29:16,160
Speaker 1: his rap music. I got children that love rapping, love rappers,

3739
03:29:17,520 --> 03:29:20,080
Speaker 1: and I'm fond of a I'm fond of some of

3740
03:29:20,320 --> 03:29:22,280
Speaker 1: some of them, But at the same time, there's no

3741
03:29:22,400 --> 03:29:25,800
Speaker 1: instruction manual. It said, hey, you know he just rapping them.

3742
03:29:25,920 --> 03:29:28,680
Speaker 1: He worth twenty five meter. He ain't doing that no more.

3743
03:29:30,320 --> 03:29:34,240
Speaker 1: He documented the circumstances, you know, he ain't. He ain't

3744
03:29:34,320 --> 03:29:37,840
Speaker 1: rapping by this current circumstances no more. And so when

3745
03:29:37,879 --> 03:29:40,080
Speaker 1: I looked into No Jumping saw this fight, I said,

3746
03:29:40,080 --> 03:29:43,959
Speaker 1: all right, here's a situation that I see No Jumpers

3747
03:29:44,000 --> 03:29:45,920
Speaker 1: in that like, let me see how he handles this.

3748
03:29:46,640 --> 03:29:49,000
Speaker 1: Then I dug dug a little deep and said, old,

3749
03:29:49,640 --> 03:29:52,360
Speaker 1: these guys didn't got small on No Jumper and started

3750
03:29:52,400 --> 03:29:55,680
Speaker 1: to create their own little things. And when they're doing

3751
03:29:55,800 --> 03:29:59,279
Speaker 1: exactly what they should be doing, but No Jumper seems

3752
03:29:59,320 --> 03:30:01,480
Speaker 1: to have a problem. Don't know what Adams saying, Hold up,

3753
03:30:01,560 --> 03:30:04,360
Speaker 1: this is becoming a bit much. I want us to

3754
03:30:04,440 --> 03:30:06,400
Speaker 1: talk about it. Let's listen to a little bit of

3755
03:30:06,480 --> 03:30:09,160
Speaker 1: a conversation and then we'll try to come back and

3756
03:30:09,280 --> 03:30:15,080
Speaker 1: examine whatever we feel from it. I can pointing myself

3757
03:30:15,160 --> 03:30:21,640
Speaker 1: out there, what's your thoughts on people here like hosts

3758
03:30:21,680 --> 03:30:26,200
Speaker 1: like myself, you know, reacting to the drama supposed to

3759
03:30:26,280 --> 03:30:29,240
Speaker 1: do and monetizing it and exploiting it on our own channels,

3760
03:30:29,280 --> 03:30:31,520
Speaker 1: Like myself, that's what we're all here for. I did

3761
03:30:31,560 --> 03:30:33,360
Speaker 1: it last night. Okay, for the record, that's not what

3762
03:30:33,480 --> 03:30:35,840
Speaker 1: you're here for, because like, no, I mean out, what's

3763
03:30:35,840 --> 03:30:39,960
Speaker 1: your channel? You know that. But I'm saying like it

3764
03:30:40,200 --> 03:30:42,119
Speaker 1: definitely is the kind of thing that we're probably gonna

3765
03:30:42,120 --> 03:30:44,359
Speaker 1: have to address at a certain point because it's definitely

3766
03:30:44,480 --> 03:30:48,640
Speaker 1: like we basically like create all this like content and stuff,

3767
03:30:48,640 --> 03:30:51,720
Speaker 1: but then it's like everybody on the platforms like doing

3768
03:30:51,800 --> 03:30:54,760
Speaker 1: content about that contact a certain body because to our

3769
03:30:54,800 --> 03:30:58,240
Speaker 1: own ship about every like barstool does not let people

3770
03:30:58,320 --> 03:31:01,039
Speaker 1: have their own channels like that. It's like your content

3771
03:31:01,120 --> 03:31:03,080
Speaker 1: that you're making is for that platform. So at a

3772
03:31:03,160 --> 03:31:05,840
Speaker 1: certain like we're definitely probably at a certain point just

3773
03:31:05,920 --> 03:31:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to start signing people a different kind of

3774
03:31:07,640 --> 03:31:09,880
Speaker 1: contracts or whatever, because it is definitely kind of like

3775
03:31:10,040 --> 03:31:13,160
Speaker 1: out of control. While it's like there's just we have

3776
03:31:13,360 --> 03:31:16,760
Speaker 1: so much money sunk into the creation of the content,

3777
03:31:16,959 --> 03:31:20,600
Speaker 1: and then you know, our employees who haven't spent any

3778
03:31:20,640 --> 03:31:23,080
Speaker 1: money on that are then basically making money making money

3779
03:31:23,160 --> 03:31:26,680
Speaker 1: off of that exact content. Yeah, it's definitely like just

3780
03:31:26,879 --> 03:31:28,840
Speaker 1: because like I didn't think it would ever go as

3781
03:31:28,920 --> 03:31:32,000
Speaker 1: far as it has. Ye But yeah, at a certain point,

3782
03:31:32,080 --> 03:31:34,840
Speaker 1: that's definitely probably something we're gonna have to address, yea.

3783
03:31:35,480 --> 03:31:39,120
Speaker 1: As far as personal, yeah, because it just doesn't really

3784
03:31:39,200 --> 03:31:40,879
Speaker 1: make sense for us to like have all these people

3785
03:31:40,920 --> 03:31:43,080
Speaker 1: that we're paying and then and then they're making more

3786
03:31:43,280 --> 03:31:46,800
Speaker 1: making content about all the things that are happening in

3787
03:31:46,879 --> 03:31:48,960
Speaker 1: the office. And when it was just like a little bit,

3788
03:31:49,000 --> 03:31:51,400
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like a big deal. But now that

3789
03:31:51,520 --> 03:31:54,600
Speaker 1: it's like kind of ridiculous, So then me, like live

3790
03:31:54,680 --> 03:31:57,080
Speaker 1: streams here will be kind of weird, like on my phone. No,

3791
03:31:57,200 --> 03:31:59,600
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to do that, Okay, yeah, and you're

3792
03:31:59,680 --> 03:32:01,840
Speaker 1: you're We wouldn't know that that would be a problem

3793
03:32:01,920 --> 03:32:04,280
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for you, because when we were making

3794
03:32:04,320 --> 03:32:05,760
Speaker 1: the rules here, like that was one of the first

3795
03:32:05,800 --> 03:32:07,880
Speaker 1: things we said. It's like, we can't have people lives,

3796
03:32:07,959 --> 03:32:12,680
Speaker 1: right man, Okay, yeah, I didn't know. Ok that makes sense, right, Well, well,

3797
03:32:14,280 --> 03:32:18,040
Speaker 1: wasn't that a rule, Like it wasn't broken by Valve.

3798
03:32:18,040 --> 03:32:20,640
Speaker 1: But this is very interesting to me to hear him

3799
03:32:20,680 --> 03:32:24,080
Speaker 1: say that. Because number one, bar Stood does not own

3800
03:32:24,160 --> 03:32:26,840
Speaker 1: Wallow and Gillis all of their content. Wallow got a

3801
03:32:26,920 --> 03:32:30,200
Speaker 1: couple of different spinoff shows, a different YouTube channel, all

3802
03:32:30,320 --> 03:32:32,840
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff going on over there. So that's not

3803
03:32:32,920 --> 03:32:35,760
Speaker 1: a situation. I imagine Gilly's gonna spin off and do

3804
03:32:35,879 --> 03:32:38,800
Speaker 1: some kind of car show or something like that. Now,

3805
03:32:38,800 --> 03:32:42,000
Speaker 1: if Barstood going to business for that, that's a different thing.

3806
03:32:42,080 --> 03:32:44,960
Speaker 1: But they're not in a situation where every piece of

3807
03:32:45,080 --> 03:32:49,520
Speaker 1: content you make, bar Stood owns it. No, that's not

3808
03:32:49,640 --> 03:32:54,000
Speaker 1: how that works. Now, No Jump or Adam, you should

3809
03:32:54,080 --> 03:32:57,520
Speaker 1: hire them, give them more money and say, hey, when

3810
03:32:57,560 --> 03:32:59,960
Speaker 1: you get off, you report about this stuff, and here's

3811
03:33:00,120 --> 03:33:03,440
Speaker 1: more money. But I don't see how you can sign

3812
03:33:03,520 --> 03:33:05,680
Speaker 1: them on some kind of contract to say you can't

3813
03:33:05,720 --> 03:33:09,880
Speaker 1: speak about your life at No Jumper. You your life,

3814
03:33:10,720 --> 03:33:12,480
Speaker 1: and I want you still to come in here and

3815
03:33:12,560 --> 03:33:15,760
Speaker 1: be your best self under those circumstances, knowing I'm working

3816
03:33:15,800 --> 03:33:18,600
Speaker 1: for a dude in some of them cases, probably younger

3817
03:33:18,640 --> 03:33:22,680
Speaker 1: than me, telling me, yo, you can't even talk about

3818
03:33:22,720 --> 03:33:25,240
Speaker 1: what's happening in here because I feel like y'all making

3819
03:33:25,360 --> 03:33:28,280
Speaker 1: money off of it. It's like, Yo, this is my life,

3820
03:33:28,400 --> 03:33:30,600
Speaker 1: this is content. I don't see the issue with that.

3821
03:33:31,040 --> 03:33:33,960
Speaker 1: Somebody got to help me understand that, because Number one

3822
03:33:34,000 --> 03:33:36,880
Speaker 1: if they didn't work with him, they can still talk

3823
03:33:36,920 --> 03:33:39,400
Speaker 1: about what happens on his shows. They don't have to

3824
03:33:39,480 --> 03:33:42,000
Speaker 1: work there to do that. Like I can look at

3825
03:33:42,040 --> 03:33:44,440
Speaker 1: a show and be like, oh, Ad got into it

3826
03:33:44,600 --> 03:33:46,840
Speaker 1: with such and such and these two people was woo

3827
03:33:46,879 --> 03:33:48,480
Speaker 1: do woo do woo do woo. You can do that

3828
03:33:48,640 --> 03:33:51,240
Speaker 1: without working there. So there's no privilege in working there

3829
03:33:51,280 --> 03:33:54,320
Speaker 1: in regards to speaking about what's happening at the platform.

3830
03:33:54,720 --> 03:33:57,560
Speaker 1: In terms of going behind the scenes, I think that's

3831
03:33:57,600 --> 03:34:00,240
Speaker 1: where he had the issue with. But if we're at

3832
03:34:00,280 --> 03:34:03,200
Speaker 1: work and we're making content, and my job is to

3833
03:34:03,360 --> 03:34:07,520
Speaker 1: make content, I don't see how listen anywhere Adam goes

3834
03:34:07,640 --> 03:34:12,120
Speaker 1: he has his camera. If I hire him to come here,

3835
03:34:12,879 --> 03:34:15,920
Speaker 1: If I hire him and I'm in LA and it's

3836
03:34:15,920 --> 03:34:18,640
Speaker 1: a big enough platform, he's gonna have his camera people

3837
03:34:18,680 --> 03:34:21,520
Speaker 1: with him, somebody to take some pictures, document what's happening,

3838
03:34:21,760 --> 03:34:25,560
Speaker 1: and probably talk about it on this platform. To me,

3839
03:34:25,720 --> 03:34:28,200
Speaker 1: I really don't get what he's saying there. I think

3840
03:34:28,280 --> 03:34:30,680
Speaker 1: what's happening is them dudes are starting to get enough

3841
03:34:30,760 --> 03:34:33,400
Speaker 1: traction to be able to use the leverage against him.

3842
03:34:33,800 --> 03:34:36,080
Speaker 1: So he basically is saying and I'm talking about it

3843
03:34:36,080 --> 03:34:39,560
Speaker 1: in the contract situation. So what's happening is they're taking

3844
03:34:39,680 --> 03:34:42,760
Speaker 1: some of the fire from these interviews, some of these

3845
03:34:42,840 --> 03:34:47,200
Speaker 1: circumstances that's happening on No Jumper and transferring them, especially

3846
03:34:47,280 --> 03:34:53,000
Speaker 1: in the algorithm, because the algorithm recognizes those names because

3847
03:34:53,040 --> 03:34:57,680
Speaker 1: they're blueprinting on this No Jumper, so it's recommending that right,

3848
03:34:57,800 --> 03:35:01,640
Speaker 1: especially with the conversion. So now they're dealing with talking

3849
03:35:01,680 --> 03:35:04,600
Speaker 1: about some of these things that's happening and popping up

3850
03:35:04,640 --> 03:35:07,280
Speaker 1: in the algorithm. And now, guess what, I'm able to

3851
03:35:07,440 --> 03:35:11,039
Speaker 1: use that leverage kind of against you and your fans

3852
03:35:11,120 --> 03:35:13,440
Speaker 1: and our friends that No Jumper are gonna come see

3853
03:35:13,520 --> 03:35:16,240
Speaker 1: me speak about what happened that No Jumper because I

3854
03:35:16,360 --> 03:35:19,040
Speaker 1: work at No Jumper, so it gives me a certain

3855
03:35:19,160 --> 03:35:23,240
Speaker 1: validity that another person speaking about these things may not have.

3856
03:35:23,480 --> 03:35:25,720
Speaker 1: I can also get people on the phone, get people

3857
03:35:25,760 --> 03:35:29,080
Speaker 1: from the show here, certain things like that to help

3858
03:35:29,200 --> 03:35:32,640
Speaker 1: build on that content. In my opinion, that helps the brand.

3859
03:35:33,640 --> 03:35:37,240
Speaker 1: But I think Adam is dealing with that momentum being

3860
03:35:37,440 --> 03:35:41,240
Speaker 1: used against him by those guys in the negotiation process,

3861
03:35:41,800 --> 03:35:44,160
Speaker 1: and he's trying to cut that down some kind of way,

3862
03:35:44,280 --> 03:35:46,640
Speaker 1: like Yo, you're getting hot to offer me and then

3863
03:35:47,280 --> 03:35:52,080
Speaker 1: negotiating against me based on how hot you are. But

3864
03:35:52,280 --> 03:35:55,120
Speaker 1: that's good business. That meaning young boys is getting creative.

3865
03:35:55,200 --> 03:35:59,440
Speaker 1: They're hustling over there. You gotta respect that. Bro Wallow

3866
03:35:59,520 --> 03:36:02,720
Speaker 1: has his channel Ball stood on that other channel Ball

3867
03:36:02,760 --> 03:36:05,920
Speaker 1: stud probably has some financial interests is what they call it,

3868
03:36:07,320 --> 03:36:12,560
Speaker 1: in that million dollars worth a game video platform that's

3869
03:36:12,600 --> 03:36:16,440
Speaker 1: on YouTube, but I'm not sure an audio, but I'm

3870
03:36:16,480 --> 03:36:19,520
Speaker 1: not sure that they have anything on the other stuff.

3871
03:36:20,280 --> 03:36:22,879
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this and then I'm gonna go to Patreons.

3872
03:36:22,959 --> 03:36:26,600
Speaker 1: We'll speak about Andrew Tate, Logan, Paul six nine, his girlfriend,

3873
03:36:27,879 --> 03:36:30,520
Speaker 1: and some old topics that's only on Patreon. You gotta

3874
03:36:30,560 --> 03:36:32,600
Speaker 1: come there for that. But as far as the Paul,

3875
03:36:32,680 --> 03:36:36,920
Speaker 1: let's speak about this. So the DA and Folton County

3876
03:36:37,000 --> 03:36:39,360
Speaker 1: came out with this press conference and announced and kind

3877
03:36:39,400 --> 03:36:41,280
Speaker 1: of talk about some of the things he've been dealing

3878
03:36:41,360 --> 03:36:46,080
Speaker 1: with the Y sal Rico charges. She talked about indicting

3879
03:36:46,480 --> 03:36:50,039
Speaker 1: the drug Rich Gag for a number of burglaries. According

3880
03:36:50,080 --> 03:36:53,320
Speaker 1: to her, they were following people chasing them down via

3881
03:36:53,440 --> 03:36:57,240
Speaker 1: social media, using their influence and their ability to move

3882
03:36:57,320 --> 03:37:01,080
Speaker 1: around on social media to track people were down and running.

3883
03:37:01,120 --> 03:37:03,560
Speaker 1: The house and take this and take that. So it

3884
03:37:03,720 --> 03:37:06,879
Speaker 1: was a situation where she wanted to get these guys

3885
03:37:06,959 --> 03:37:10,640
Speaker 1: off the street, according to her. But let's listen to

3886
03:37:11,280 --> 03:37:13,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of what she had to say for

3887
03:37:13,959 --> 03:37:17,800
Speaker 1: joining us. Today is another great day in Fulton County,

3888
03:37:17,840 --> 03:37:22,000
Speaker 1: another great day of crime fighting. We are here today

3889
03:37:22,480 --> 03:37:25,080
Speaker 1: to just let the public know that we are continuing

3890
03:37:25,280 --> 03:37:28,600
Speaker 1: our mission to target gangs as we believe it is

3891
03:37:28,640 --> 03:37:34,400
Speaker 1: our number one public safety deterrent crisis that we're in.

3892
03:37:35,120 --> 03:37:38,280
Speaker 1: What today's indictment is about is the Drug Rich Gang,

3893
03:37:38,520 --> 03:37:41,080
Speaker 1: which is a hybrid gang and it started back in

3894
03:37:41,120 --> 03:37:44,080
Speaker 1: twenty and sixteen. That's how far we can document this

3895
03:37:44,200 --> 03:37:47,080
Speaker 1: gang existing. We know that it is a gang that

3896
03:37:47,200 --> 03:37:51,120
Speaker 1: primarily actually exists out of the Cab County on the

3897
03:37:51,200 --> 03:37:54,360
Speaker 1: Stone Mountain and the Tucker area. But as we know,

3898
03:37:54,680 --> 03:37:58,240
Speaker 1: crime and criminals have no boundaries, and they found their

3899
03:37:58,280 --> 03:38:01,520
Speaker 1: way into my county, Fulton. Cant. I have a message

3900
03:38:01,560 --> 03:38:04,160
Speaker 1: today that you will hear repeated time and time again.

3901
03:38:04,640 --> 03:38:08,520
Speaker 1: If you thought Fulton was a good county to bring

3902
03:38:08,640 --> 03:38:11,920
Speaker 1: your crime to, to bring your violence to, you are

3903
03:38:12,000 --> 03:38:16,360
Speaker 1: wrong and you are going to suffer consequences. And today

3904
03:38:16,640 --> 03:38:19,840
Speaker 1: is the start of some of those consequences. This gang,

3905
03:38:19,920 --> 03:38:22,320
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, is a hybrid gang. It does include

3906
03:38:22,360 --> 03:38:24,879
Speaker 1: members of the gangs or disciples, the Crypts and the Bloods.

3907
03:38:25,200 --> 03:38:28,360
Speaker 1: We know that here in Atlanta, Georgia, that hybrid gangs

3908
03:38:28,400 --> 03:38:31,080
Speaker 1: are something that we regularly see. We know that this

3909
03:38:31,200 --> 03:38:34,879
Speaker 1: gang does have some identifiers that connects it together. They

3910
03:38:35,000 --> 03:38:38,480
Speaker 1: use things like prescription bottles and money symbols, and this

3911
03:38:38,680 --> 03:38:40,800
Speaker 1: is in their jewelry and their tattoos, and we see

3912
03:38:40,879 --> 03:38:44,760
Speaker 1: that present here. We have identifiers identifying this gang. But

3913
03:38:45,120 --> 03:38:48,320
Speaker 1: that's not the problem that people collected together or they

3914
03:38:48,440 --> 03:38:51,880
Speaker 1: decided to use symbols. It's what they did once they

3915
03:38:52,000 --> 03:38:56,840
Speaker 1: joined together. What this indictment represents is sixteen different victims

3916
03:38:56,959 --> 03:39:02,640
Speaker 1: in our county, sixteen different incidents of violence, and twenty

3917
03:39:02,920 --> 03:39:07,200
Speaker 1: six defendants. They committed crime everywhere from the south to

3918
03:39:07,320 --> 03:39:10,640
Speaker 1: the north of my county. The earliest crime committed that

3919
03:39:10,800 --> 03:39:13,000
Speaker 1: is captured in this indictment is a two thousand and

3920
03:39:13,120 --> 03:39:18,240
Speaker 1: eighteen carjacking. The latest was committed just this month. We

3921
03:39:18,520 --> 03:39:22,000
Speaker 1: are aware that crimes have occurred in other jurisdiction, but

3922
03:39:22,160 --> 03:39:25,680
Speaker 1: what this indictment primarily covers are the sixteen crimes that

3923
03:39:25,760 --> 03:39:28,760
Speaker 1: committed here in Fulton County. Thank god, we don't have

3924
03:39:28,840 --> 03:39:33,000
Speaker 1: a murder, but we have kidnapping, we have armed robberies,

3925
03:39:33,080 --> 03:39:37,600
Speaker 1: we have shootings, and we have home invasions, very violent crimes,

3926
03:39:38,000 --> 03:39:41,080
Speaker 1: things that cannot be allowed in our county, and all

3927
03:39:41,200 --> 03:39:44,840
Speaker 1: done again at the hands of crime, the hands of gangs.

3928
03:39:45,400 --> 03:39:47,800
Speaker 1: What I want the public to see today is today

3929
03:39:47,920 --> 03:39:51,680
Speaker 1: is a collaboration of law enforcement, because as they have

3930
03:39:51,800 --> 03:39:55,440
Speaker 1: gotten more savvy, so have we. And so what you

3931
03:39:55,600 --> 03:39:58,840
Speaker 1: have is a collaboration of the Atlanta Police Department, the

3932
03:39:59,000 --> 03:40:02,720
Speaker 1: Union City Police Department, the United States Attorney's Office is

3933
03:40:02,760 --> 03:40:06,240
Speaker 1: here today, the Fulton County Sheriff, the marshals, and the

3934
03:40:06,320 --> 03:40:10,840
Speaker 1: Fulton County District Attorney's Office. We are working together. We

3935
03:40:11,160 --> 03:40:15,040
Speaker 1: are working collaboratively, and we have a message and that

3936
03:40:15,240 --> 03:40:17,800
Speaker 1: is get out of this county or expect to start

3937
03:40:17,879 --> 03:40:21,400
Speaker 1: seeing sentences that go life plus. Because I am not

3938
03:40:21,680 --> 03:40:24,800
Speaker 1: going to negotiate with gang members. I am not going

3939
03:40:24,920 --> 03:40:28,760
Speaker 1: to allow please. We are going to find you, we

3940
03:40:28,879 --> 03:40:31,160
Speaker 1: are going to convince you, and we're gonna send you

3941
03:40:31,200 --> 03:40:32,880
Speaker 1: to the prison for the rest of your days. And

3942
03:40:33,000 --> 03:40:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm not apologizing for that. Oh pledge cooperation because I

3943
03:40:37,080 --> 03:40:38,760
Speaker 1: can't help the tell us that the Cab County is

3944
03:40:38,920 --> 03:40:42,080
Speaker 1: standing behind you right now, but I know that they're

3945
03:40:42,200 --> 03:40:46,640
Speaker 1: accused of crimes into Cab County, Like, is there a

3946
03:40:46,760 --> 03:40:50,920
Speaker 1: collaboration happening between the folk in de Cab County? So

3947
03:40:51,200 --> 03:40:54,400
Speaker 1: just to point this out for you guys, the Cab

3948
03:40:54,480 --> 03:40:57,960
Speaker 1: County is not there. The DA is not there, and

3949
03:40:58,360 --> 03:41:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that says, but it's enough for

3950
03:41:01,440 --> 03:41:04,600
Speaker 1: the news reporters to point that out. You know, usually

3951
03:41:04,640 --> 03:41:06,840
Speaker 1: when you make this kind of arrest from people that's

3952
03:41:06,879 --> 03:41:10,640
Speaker 1: doing crime in these different places and they're in agreeance

3953
03:41:10,760 --> 03:41:14,160
Speaker 1: of your approach, I would probably think they would be

3954
03:41:14,240 --> 03:41:16,520
Speaker 1: that when you think about a press conference, the people

3955
03:41:16,560 --> 03:41:19,480
Speaker 1: that's there are the people that's in agreeance, Like that

3956
03:41:19,720 --> 03:41:22,760
Speaker 1: was was instrumental in helping you come to this conclusion

3957
03:41:22,879 --> 03:41:25,959
Speaker 1: that we've made it to our destination and for them

3958
03:41:26,080 --> 03:41:28,600
Speaker 1: not to be there, it kind of makes you wonder

3959
03:41:28,680 --> 03:41:32,400
Speaker 1: what does that mean in regard to the investigation of

3960
03:41:32,480 --> 03:41:35,240
Speaker 1: this game. I have a relationship with the district attorney

3961
03:41:35,280 --> 03:41:37,800
Speaker 1: in the Cab I cannot say we've specifically collaborated on

3962
03:41:37,920 --> 03:41:40,400
Speaker 1: this incident. I will say that we know that this

3963
03:41:40,640 --> 03:41:45,040
Speaker 1: gang has also committed crimes in Cobb and Fayed in

3964
03:41:45,320 --> 03:41:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the surrounding jurisdictions, and they have been

3965
03:41:47,959 --> 03:41:50,760
Speaker 1: at the table as we have developed these crimes. In fact,

3966
03:41:50,800 --> 03:41:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm aware that the Gwynette District Attorney does have an

3967
03:41:53,680 --> 03:41:56,680
Speaker 1: indictment against some of these same members, and she has

3968
03:41:56,720 --> 03:41:58,480
Speaker 1: sent part of her staff to be at the table.

3969
03:41:59,200 --> 03:42:01,000
Speaker 1: I can honestly tell you when they first brought this

3970
03:42:01,120 --> 03:42:02,800
Speaker 1: to me, I said, this is not one that I'm

3971
03:42:02,840 --> 03:42:04,520
Speaker 1: familiar with. If we don't hear about them a lot,

3972
03:42:04,720 --> 03:42:06,920
Speaker 1: And then we began to realize that's because most of

3973
03:42:06,959 --> 03:42:08,880
Speaker 1: the work they had put in UM, and I use

3974
03:42:09,000 --> 03:42:11,280
Speaker 1: work in the slang term, most of the crime that

3975
03:42:11,400 --> 03:42:13,920
Speaker 1: they were doing was out of the Cab county, but

3976
03:42:14,000 --> 03:42:16,480
Speaker 1: they decided to cross the county lines and that's going

3977
03:42:16,560 --> 03:42:18,480
Speaker 1: to be detrimental to them. I use work in the

3978
03:42:18,560 --> 03:42:21,800
Speaker 1: slang term. I'm letting you know what I understand them.

3979
03:42:22,240 --> 03:42:32,440
Speaker 1: It does proposed route lyrics in prosecutions. Do you have

3980
03:42:33,080 --> 03:42:36,240
Speaker 1: thoughts about that? I think that I would welcome an

3981
03:42:36,240 --> 03:42:41,080
Speaker 1: opportunity to sit down with Hank Aaron and discuss that

3982
03:42:41,360 --> 03:42:47,240
Speaker 1: proposed legislation. UM, I don't think that it will be successful.

3983
03:42:47,560 --> 03:42:50,400
Speaker 1: I think if you decide to admit your crimes over

3984
03:42:50,480 --> 03:42:57,640
Speaker 1: a beat. I'm gonna use it before previous arrest. Um,

3985
03:42:58,160 --> 03:43:04,880
Speaker 1: what are your responses to the criticism that yours targeting

3986
03:43:05,040 --> 03:43:09,480
Speaker 1: Atlanta to get oporumunity. I'm not targeting anyone, but however,

3987
03:43:09,640 --> 03:43:12,440
Speaker 1: you do not get to commit crimes in my county

3988
03:43:12,959 --> 03:43:15,160
Speaker 1: and then decide to brag on it, which you do

3989
03:43:15,320 --> 03:43:18,280
Speaker 1: that for a form of intimidation and to further the

3990
03:43:18,440 --> 03:43:21,760
Speaker 1: game and not be held responsible. One of the lyrics

3991
03:43:21,800 --> 03:43:24,400
Speaker 1: and used in this indictment, just one of the lyrics

3992
03:43:24,520 --> 03:43:27,160
Speaker 1: is me and my crew striking out, striking it all black,

3993
03:43:27,520 --> 03:43:29,760
Speaker 1: Send me the drop. We'll kick in the house if

3994
03:43:29,840 --> 03:43:33,960
Speaker 1: we hold on. Before we read the rest of those lyrics,

3995
03:43:34,040 --> 03:43:37,960
Speaker 1: let's put some context around that those lyrics apply to

3996
03:43:38,040 --> 03:43:42,320
Speaker 1: that situation. You're saying that using lyrics as a whole

3997
03:43:42,600 --> 03:43:45,600
Speaker 1: is acceptable, when I would push back on that because

3998
03:43:45,840 --> 03:43:47,880
Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of cap going on

3999
03:43:48,080 --> 03:43:51,200
Speaker 1: in this music. There's a lot of dudes rapping about

4000
03:43:51,280 --> 03:43:53,840
Speaker 1: things they ain't done and all of that. I would

4001
03:43:53,920 --> 03:43:58,040
Speaker 1: say that rap lyrics this documenting crimes in conjunction with

4002
03:43:58,320 --> 03:44:01,640
Speaker 1: proof of that crime. Now we're talking a different language,

4003
03:44:01,959 --> 03:44:05,000
Speaker 1: but just those lyrics and then saying, because of these lyrics,

4004
03:44:05,080 --> 03:44:07,840
Speaker 1: they part of this game. Because of these lyrics, we

4005
03:44:08,080 --> 03:44:09,920
Speaker 1: know they got something to do with a murder that

4006
03:44:10,040 --> 03:44:12,640
Speaker 1: this gang has something to do with. That's when it

4007
03:44:12,720 --> 03:44:15,520
Speaker 1: gets slippery. And then at some point we gotta be honest.

4008
03:44:15,840 --> 03:44:18,760
Speaker 1: She came out saying targeting. That's what I remember doing

4009
03:44:18,800 --> 03:44:21,400
Speaker 1: a podcast about it. Hold on, let's listen to these words.

4010
03:44:21,440 --> 03:44:26,640
Speaker 1: She says she's targeting. She says she's targeting gangs. So

4011
03:44:26,840 --> 03:44:29,800
Speaker 1: now what do you classify a gang? Well, a record label.

4012
03:44:30,440 --> 03:44:33,440
Speaker 1: So now she's saying she's not targeting people. If you

4013
03:44:33,560 --> 03:44:36,680
Speaker 1: remember I got whole podcast is about it, which where

4014
03:44:36,840 --> 03:44:41,200
Speaker 1: she said that she's targeting gangs, if we simplify what

4015
03:44:41,360 --> 03:44:44,040
Speaker 1: she's been doing and what a reach looks like with

4016
03:44:44,160 --> 03:44:47,520
Speaker 1: the y fen and the y sell and whatever else

4017
03:44:47,640 --> 03:44:51,879
Speaker 1: these situations are, we say that she's targeting gangs, which

4018
03:44:51,959 --> 03:44:57,040
Speaker 1: in what it looks like, gangs are looking like record labels.

4019
03:44:57,760 --> 03:45:00,280
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. And that's where the problem lies.

4020
03:45:00,360 --> 03:45:03,200
Speaker 1: That is that is that it seems seeming like that

4021
03:45:03,360 --> 03:45:06,760
Speaker 1: what you are saying our games or record labels, and

4022
03:45:06,879 --> 03:45:10,120
Speaker 1: it's always tied to some other things and some other things, right,

4023
03:45:10,160 --> 03:45:13,240
Speaker 1: and so what I think she's trying to do is

4024
03:45:13,320 --> 03:45:15,200
Speaker 1: if I can get a bunch of these ricos and

4025
03:45:15,320 --> 03:45:17,960
Speaker 1: get one of them to start sticking, and now I

4026
03:45:18,040 --> 03:45:22,400
Speaker 1: can start making the jury and the community appreciate what

4027
03:45:22,520 --> 03:45:25,000
Speaker 1: it looks like to convict these guys and make it

4028
03:45:25,120 --> 03:45:27,560
Speaker 1: easier for the jury to because if you had a

4029
03:45:27,640 --> 03:45:31,199
Speaker 1: couple of these cases standing alone, maybe that's maybe that's harder.

4030
03:45:32,000 --> 03:45:35,320
Speaker 1: You know. But I specifically remember her saying targeting, and

4031
03:45:35,480 --> 03:45:39,440
Speaker 1: now she's saying she's not targeting. I remember this, and

4032
03:45:39,760 --> 03:45:42,160
Speaker 1: I also see of a trick. And I'm not accusing

4033
03:45:42,240 --> 03:45:44,360
Speaker 1: them of doing it, but it just seems like a

4034
03:45:44,520 --> 03:45:47,440
Speaker 1: hell of a coincidence that now when I go back

4035
03:45:47,480 --> 03:45:50,760
Speaker 1: to all the press conferences of her when she was

4036
03:45:50,840 --> 03:45:53,960
Speaker 1: talking about the young thug arrests and speaking all about

4037
03:45:54,000 --> 03:45:59,480
Speaker 1: this targeting, that all of that audio is disappeared. But

4038
03:45:59,640 --> 03:46:01,520
Speaker 1: the think about it is this is how you know

4039
03:46:01,680 --> 03:46:04,040
Speaker 1: something is wrong. And it may be my computers. I

4040
03:46:04,160 --> 03:46:07,440
Speaker 1: tried it from several computers. If you do close caption,

4041
03:46:07,520 --> 03:46:11,000
Speaker 1: it's still there. But if you're just going to listen,

4042
03:46:11,040 --> 03:46:12,920
Speaker 1: because I was gonna play it, I was gonna say,

4043
03:46:12,959 --> 03:46:17,320
Speaker 1: hold on. She specifically has said she's targeting people for

4044
03:46:17,480 --> 03:46:20,640
Speaker 1: some reason, it won't play any of the any of

4045
03:46:20,720 --> 03:46:23,879
Speaker 1: the audio from that press conference after she made that arrest.

4046
03:46:24,520 --> 03:46:26,800
Speaker 1: But the drug rich people a lot of people I

4047
03:46:26,920 --> 03:46:29,040
Speaker 1: know they used to be with. I know who rich,

4048
03:46:29,160 --> 03:46:32,400
Speaker 1: Pablo Wan used to be around them. But according to them,

4049
03:46:32,480 --> 03:46:35,240
Speaker 1: they've been doing a lot of home invasions and I

4050
03:46:35,320 --> 03:46:37,360
Speaker 1: can't speak for them, can I don't? You know, I

4051
03:46:37,400 --> 03:46:41,960
Speaker 1: don't really do the home invasion thing, you know, sneaking

4052
03:46:42,080 --> 03:46:45,600
Speaker 1: in on people and don't really do that. I respect it.

4053
03:46:45,680 --> 03:46:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm killing anybody to come in, but I respect it.

4054
03:46:49,160 --> 03:46:52,119
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I don't, I ain't never, I can't.

4055
03:46:52,320 --> 03:46:54,320
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's a that's a that's a different

4056
03:46:54,360 --> 03:46:57,600
Speaker 1: type of vibration. You gotta be on the trusting like that.

4057
03:46:58,640 --> 03:47:01,959
Speaker 1: But what can I say? I'm just Big Loan that's

4058
03:47:02,000 --> 03:47:06,560
Speaker 1: doing a podcast. Listen, man, another episode of the fastest

4059
03:47:06,680 --> 03:47:09,840
Speaker 1: growing podcasts in the market. Right now. Come to Patreon.

4060
03:47:09,959 --> 03:47:12,760
Speaker 1: As we develop what it is that we call our

4061
03:47:12,879 --> 03:47:16,120
Speaker 1: business model, we need to support. Get you some merch

4062
03:47:16,320 --> 03:47:18,800
Speaker 1: right now, dar me for that merch, and if you're

4063
03:47:18,920 --> 03:47:22,400
Speaker 1: part of my Patreon, you automatically get a fifteen percent

4064
03:47:22,600 --> 03:47:25,320
Speaker 1: discount on all the new merch you will see all

4065
03:47:25,400 --> 03:47:28,320
Speaker 1: your favorite celebrities in it. In just a second. Be

4066
03:47:28,480 --> 03:47:30,720
Speaker 1: ahead of that curve because once it starts to go,

4067
03:47:30,879 --> 03:47:33,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna sell out and you may not be able

4068
03:47:33,360 --> 03:47:35,520
Speaker 1: to get in. And I'm being honest, i'mna haveing some

4069
03:47:35,640 --> 03:47:38,320
Speaker 1: of the biggest names in the game rocking this and

4070
03:47:38,440 --> 03:47:41,280
Speaker 1: that's on Guard and Gang. Also Come over there and

4071
03:47:41,400 --> 03:47:44,320
Speaker 1: tune into the content I'm about to start. Like today,

4072
03:47:44,360 --> 03:47:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into Andrew Tad and Logan Paul. I'm

4073
03:47:47,160 --> 03:47:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna get into Andrew Shots and Joe Button. I'm gonna

4074
03:47:49,879 --> 03:47:52,480
Speaker 1: get into Charlemagne and Joe Button and what he said

4075
03:47:52,520 --> 03:47:55,760
Speaker 1: about lyrics. I'm gonna get into Tasha k and Charlemagne

4076
03:47:55,760 --> 03:47:58,760
Speaker 1: and what she's just done. These topics I'm gonna get

4077
03:47:58,800 --> 03:48:01,920
Speaker 1: into only on Patron, but I'm finding a way to

4078
03:48:02,040 --> 03:48:05,400
Speaker 1: serve my Patron people in a way that makes them

4079
03:48:05,600 --> 03:48:08,320
Speaker 1: also happy and proud because some of y'all are over there,

4080
03:48:08,680 --> 03:48:11,720
Speaker 1: just like loon with you, I'm giving you this amount.

4081
03:48:13,000 --> 03:48:14,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I'm like, yo, I'm

4082
03:48:14,760 --> 03:48:16,840
Speaker 1: going to find a way to tap y'all in man,

4083
03:48:17,160 --> 03:48:19,440
Speaker 1: because I really appreciate y'all Man, I want to shout

4084
03:48:19,480 --> 03:48:22,640
Speaker 1: out revote TV. I'm blessed, I'm humble, I'm happy, I'm

4085
03:48:22,840 --> 03:48:25,880
Speaker 1: highly favored. God is doing his job with me and

4086
03:48:26,080 --> 03:48:29,400
Speaker 1: doing his job on my behalf. I can't lose right now.

4087
03:48:29,440 --> 03:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel like the champion, you know.

4088
03:48:32,040 --> 03:48:34,920
Speaker 1: I feel like everything is in my favor. So thank

4089
03:48:35,000 --> 03:48:37,360
Speaker 1: you guys. Man, if you're listening to my part, if

4090
03:48:37,440 --> 03:48:40,040
Speaker 1: you're here right now, I want to say thank you. Man.

4091
03:48:41,400 --> 03:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Find a way to support this. Stay with your boy. Man.

4092
03:48:44,120 --> 03:48:46,760
Speaker 1: We're in this for the long haul. We hopefully have

4093
03:48:46,920 --> 03:48:50,480
Speaker 1: some great conversations coming down the turnpike that people can

4094
03:48:50,560 --> 03:48:54,320
Speaker 1: appreciate and the culture can respond to. We just want

4095
03:48:54,360 --> 03:48:56,440
Speaker 1: to add value, man, and if we can do that,

4096
03:48:56,640 --> 03:48:59,880
Speaker 1: we feel like the culture responding. So again, front of

4097
03:49:00,000 --> 03:49:02,119
Speaker 1: bottom of my heart, Man, this is like a dream

4098
03:49:02,280 --> 03:49:04,760
Speaker 1: job for me. Man, those that know me as even

4099
03:49:05,600 --> 03:49:08,000
Speaker 1: me as a child, like this would be a dream

4100
03:49:08,160 --> 03:49:11,200
Speaker 1: job for me. So the idea that I'm able to

4101
03:49:11,280 --> 03:49:13,680
Speaker 1: do this for living them. Man, it's just enough for

4102
03:49:13,800 --> 03:49:17,040
Speaker 1: me to, you know, call my people and smile about

4103
03:49:17,200 --> 03:49:19,760
Speaker 1: not to mention I can. I got some of the

4104
03:49:19,840 --> 03:49:22,960
Speaker 1: biggest names in music, some of the biggest names in sports,

4105
03:49:23,040 --> 03:49:25,760
Speaker 1: some of the biggest names in entrepreneurship, some of the

4106
03:49:25,800 --> 03:49:28,560
Speaker 1: biggest on my phone while I can just reach out

4107
03:49:28,600 --> 03:49:33,600
Speaker 1: and call them like Yo, man, sit man, Dad, And

4108
03:49:33,680 --> 03:49:36,920
Speaker 1: I came out to concrete with that. Man. I came

4109
03:49:37,040 --> 03:49:39,440
Speaker 1: out to concrete with that. It's like I'm living my

4110
03:49:39,560 --> 03:49:43,720
Speaker 1: second life. You know. I'm getting minds off the grammar now.

4111
03:49:44,440 --> 03:49:46,920
Speaker 1: It's almost like I'm living my second life. God has

4112
03:49:46,960 --> 03:49:49,920
Speaker 1: blessed me to get a second stride with this, you know.

4113
03:49:50,200 --> 03:49:52,400
Speaker 1: And the game is reacting to the game that I'm

4114
03:49:52,440 --> 03:49:55,360
Speaker 1: putting down and looking for me. I'm just happy enough

4115
03:49:56,040 --> 03:50:00,280
Speaker 1: no looking for me. I know that it's big that

4116
03:50:00,440 --> 03:50:02,760
Speaker 1: need to be done. I know I can't do this

4117
03:50:02,920 --> 03:50:04,880
Speaker 1: only with one show. I need to figure out a

4118
03:50:04,920 --> 03:50:08,120
Speaker 1: way to do ten show. I know one piece of

4119
03:50:08,200 --> 03:50:11,440
Speaker 1: bread ain't a loaf. I ain't dumb enough to be

4120
03:50:11,560 --> 03:50:14,520
Speaker 1: tricked by the Internet. I know better. I come from

4121
03:50:14,600 --> 03:50:22,120
Speaker 1: real nick, come from authenticity. My uncle taught me a lot.

4122
03:50:22,560 --> 03:50:27,000
Speaker 1: My homeboys, they gave their life to the game. That

4123
03:50:27,080 --> 03:50:30,360
Speaker 1: I gave my life to the game. The information that

4124
03:50:30,480 --> 03:50:32,920
Speaker 1: I drew from that. My children, they gave me a lot,

4125
03:50:33,200 --> 03:50:36,080
Speaker 1: a lot of information. All my relationships gave me a

4126
03:50:36,200 --> 03:50:40,680
Speaker 1: lot my mother gave me so much, right, I'm just

4127
03:50:40,880 --> 03:50:43,280
Speaker 1: lucky to even be in this situation. Bro. If y'all

4128
03:50:43,320 --> 03:50:45,360
Speaker 1: don't know what it feels like or what it is like,

4129
03:50:46,160 --> 03:50:49,720
Speaker 1: I come from the concrete, man, and I couldn't even

4130
03:50:49,800 --> 03:50:54,360
Speaker 1: imagine being where I met right now. I had so

4131
03:50:54,600 --> 03:50:57,240
Speaker 1: much work to do, bro, But it's like right now,

4132
03:50:57,360 --> 03:51:00,400
Speaker 1: even right now, man, y'all couldn't imagined everything I got

4133
03:51:00,520 --> 03:51:04,560
Speaker 1: going on. Like. It's just it's amazing, man, And I

4134
03:51:04,680 --> 03:51:06,480
Speaker 1: can only give it up to the most high in

4135
03:51:06,560 --> 03:51:09,320
Speaker 1: the universe. Just aligning and in a way, man, it's

4136
03:51:09,360 --> 03:51:12,760
Speaker 1: just in my fail and don't behalf for that, and

4137
03:51:12,880 --> 03:51:14,960
Speaker 1: don't behalf for all y'all. Man. I want to say

4138
03:51:15,040 --> 03:51:17,440
Speaker 1: thank y'all one more time, and I mean that because

4139
03:51:17,520 --> 03:51:21,200
Speaker 1: it's really allowing me to change my life. And every

4140
03:51:21,320 --> 03:51:24,520
Speaker 1: day I get hundreds, if not thousands, I'm probably a

4141
03:51:24,640 --> 03:51:28,320
Speaker 1: thousands now. I'm probably right over a thousand DMS or

4142
03:51:28,480 --> 03:51:34,120
Speaker 1: messages a day about how the podcast is changing and

4143
03:51:34,240 --> 03:51:38,080
Speaker 1: touching people. My job is converting that. My job is

4144
03:51:38,240 --> 03:51:42,560
Speaker 1: centralizing that. I understand that and what y'all help will

4145
03:51:42,640 --> 03:51:45,200
Speaker 1: be able to do that. Make sure even if you're

4146
03:51:45,240 --> 03:51:49,960
Speaker 1: not even if you know loan just the truth. Make

4147
03:51:50,000 --> 03:51:52,600
Speaker 1: sure you still share it because it does something for

4148
03:51:52,680 --> 03:51:55,680
Speaker 1: the algorithm. Make sure you still like it. Make sure

4149
03:51:56,200 --> 03:51:58,800
Speaker 1: you steal, book mark it. You ain't got a comment

4150
03:51:58,880 --> 03:52:01,440
Speaker 1: on it, but make sure you share it though. That

4151
03:52:01,640 --> 03:52:04,840
Speaker 1: tells the algorithm that they liked this and it does something,

4152
03:52:04,960 --> 03:52:07,400
Speaker 1: and we need that as we're fighting against a lot

4153
03:52:07,480 --> 03:52:10,520
Speaker 1: of machines. We respect the game. We ain't asking for

4154
03:52:10,640 --> 03:52:13,960
Speaker 1: no handout of favor. We're gonna work the system and

4155
03:52:14,040 --> 03:52:16,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna work the game, and we're gonna respect the game.

4156
03:52:17,680 --> 03:52:19,920
Speaker 1: But wayne putting on more tin on it, We're gonna

4157
03:52:19,920 --> 03:52:22,680
Speaker 1: take the tin off this and we're gonna take this

4158
03:52:22,800 --> 03:52:25,880
Speaker 1: to the next level and scale this right, whether we

4159
03:52:26,000 --> 03:52:28,720
Speaker 1: have to shoot this different. I got so many shows

4160
03:52:28,760 --> 03:52:30,920
Speaker 1: in my brain, like I ain't even saying I got

4161
03:52:31,000 --> 03:52:34,920
Speaker 1: five six real concepts right now that I think could

4162
03:52:34,960 --> 03:52:37,520
Speaker 1: do good with the right personalities. And that's what a

4163
03:52:37,600 --> 03:52:40,880
Speaker 1: trick comes in in this game, knowing who to put well.

4164
03:52:42,240 --> 03:52:44,960
Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm shocked that my phone don't ring

4165
03:52:45,120 --> 03:52:50,000
Speaker 1: for opportunities to speak. And I, you know, me, being

4166
03:52:50,280 --> 03:52:52,280
Speaker 1: a creator, I said, with a little maybe you put

4167
03:52:52,400 --> 03:52:54,800
Speaker 1: that on yourself. Maybe you haven't made it obvious, so

4168
03:52:54,920 --> 03:52:57,480
Speaker 1: I got to make an announcement or put something out. Yeah,

4169
03:52:57,560 --> 03:53:00,640
Speaker 1: y'all know I speak too, don't you. I ain't never

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Speaker 1: spoke ever, but I know. He Yo, let me come

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03:53:06,040 --> 03:53:08,600
Speaker 1: speak to the whatever y'all got this, Let me come

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03:53:08,640 --> 03:53:10,920
Speaker 1: out there on stage, trust me. Just let me do

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03:53:11,040 --> 03:53:12,800
Speaker 1: what I let's let me do what I'm gonna do.

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03:53:13,720 --> 03:53:17,440
Speaker 1: If we're talking motivation or entrepreneurship but coming from nothing

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03:53:17,600 --> 03:53:22,960
Speaker 1: or transitioning or evolving or inquiring about information and opportunity

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03:53:23,040 --> 03:53:26,920
Speaker 1: and how to cross rolls me. But this is, this

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Speaker 1: is right, and I'd be surprised. My phone ain't wrong

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03:53:30,840 --> 03:53:32,960
Speaker 1: for that. What I said, well, lone, it ain't time yet.

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03:53:33,080 --> 03:53:35,240
Speaker 1: But I said, also, you ain't made it because so

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Speaker 1: some of these opportunities I can put on myself. But

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03:53:39,320 --> 03:53:41,480
Speaker 1: if your finger on the post, like my finger on

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03:53:41,560 --> 03:53:44,720
Speaker 1: the post, like my live events, my next four or

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03:53:44,760 --> 03:53:51,160
Speaker 1: five live events is just shockingly good, and it's like, yo,

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03:53:51,320 --> 03:53:53,600
Speaker 1: it's because my finger is on the post or the coach.

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03:53:53,680 --> 03:53:57,080
Speaker 1: I know that that person, that person, this guy, that woman,

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Speaker 1: that woman. I know these things. I know these things

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03:54:01,840 --> 03:54:04,600
Speaker 1: because I've spent a lot of time trying to analyze

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03:54:04,680 --> 03:54:07,960
Speaker 1: what my competition is gonna look like in seven years.

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03:54:09,040 --> 03:54:11,160
Speaker 1: I know, right now it looks a certain way, but

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03:54:11,280 --> 03:54:13,720
Speaker 1: this thing is a constantly moving thing. And now I'm

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03:54:13,760 --> 03:54:16,440
Speaker 1: just off on a tangent talking about podcasting. But I

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of y'all that showed me love man. Y'all

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03:54:20,040 --> 03:54:22,520
Speaker 1: showed me that it's possible. Y'all showed me that I

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03:54:22,560 --> 03:54:24,720
Speaker 1: ain't wasting my time. And I'm putting myself in a

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03:54:24,840 --> 03:54:28,040
Speaker 1: situation that hopefully I can profit from in a way

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03:54:28,120 --> 03:54:30,800
Speaker 1: that it changes my children's life, because at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, my mother and my children, my family

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03:54:33,760 --> 03:54:36,120
Speaker 1: is who I do this for. If it was about me,

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03:54:36,200 --> 03:54:38,600
Speaker 1: I could have got mine out to concrete off the street.

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Speaker 1: That's for show. It's up there, the experience. We change

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Speaker 1: the name or formally it's up there podcast, biggest in

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Speaker 1: the world, skit It