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Speaker 1: scrant the Electric City. It's been seven years since The
Speaker 1: Office Finale aired and we had the Scranting Rap Party here.
Speaker 1: I haven't been back since really and exploring anything about
Speaker 1: the Office, I felt like it was important to come
Speaker 1: back here to It's not really where it all started,
Speaker 1: but it's somehow feels like it's where it all started.
Speaker 1: My name is Michelle Dempsey and I'm a co chair
Speaker 1: of the Office Convention in the Office Rap Party. My
Speaker 1: name is Tim Holmes. I'm a co chair of the
Speaker 1: Office Convention in the Office Rap Party. Hello everybody, and
Speaker 1: welcome to a brand new and very close to my
Speaker 1: heart episode of the Office. Deep dive. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Brian baum Gartner. Now, I thought we could do something
Speaker 1: a little bit different today, all right, something very special.
Speaker 1: If you've been following me on Instagram, you know that
Speaker 1: I just got back from my book tour, and let
Speaker 1: me tell you it was freaking incredible, all right. I
Speaker 1: went all the way back to Scranton, Pennsylvania, the electric City,
Speaker 1: the hometown of the office. And I'm not even making
Speaker 1: this up. I left Scranton with an honorary certificate in
Speaker 1: Scrantology from the University of Scranton. I'm a doctor as
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. Yes, I think I am the
Speaker 1: only person to have ever been bestowed with such an honor.
Speaker 1: So take that everybody else. Uh. Now, as an honorary Scrantonian,
Speaker 1: I thought I would take you back to Scranton with
Speaker 1: me and introduce you to some of the amazing people
Speaker 1: I have met in the town. I really have not
Speaker 1: felt more welcome from any town or any group of
Speaker 1: people ever. Scranton has become my second home, and it
Speaker 1: is all because of the people. I am so excited
Speaker 1: to introduce you to. To such people, the incredible Tim
Speaker 1: Holmes and Michelle Dempsey. These two were responsible for the
Speaker 1: Office Convention in two thousand seven and the Rap Party
Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen. If you read our book or
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast, you know how special those events were.
Speaker 1: Tim and Michelle's love for the show and for their
Speaker 1: town Scratton is so big that they volunteered to co
Speaker 1: chair all of these spectacular office events. They have done
Speaker 1: an amazing job every single time I have come, and
Speaker 1: they have made those experiences extra special, not just for me,
Speaker 1: but for everyone else who was there along with the
Speaker 1: rest of the town. They keep the show's legacy going
Speaker 1: and I could not be more for so. On this
Speaker 1: very special edition of the podcast, please give a warm
Speaker 1: Scrantonian welcome to the true keepers of the Office. Tim Holmes,
Speaker 1: Michelle Dempsey, and all of the people of Scranton. Bubble
Speaker 1: and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak, Bubble and
Speaker 1: Squeaker cooking at every month. Left over from the night before.
Speaker 1: I was driving down the highway here and we got
Speaker 1: off and there was the mural there. I started, no joke,
Speaker 1: I started getting emotional when I just like I just
Speaker 1: saw the sign, honest to God, when it heard you
Speaker 1: were coming. You felt the electricity searched through the city.
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm not kidding. Every my phone hasn't stuffer inging.
Speaker 1: I'm sure tim has been the same way it has been.
Speaker 1: And everybody and anybody who thinks they might be you
Speaker 1: know they it has just been on fire since you're
Speaker 1: since your tweet. Yeah, we were trying to keep it
Speaker 1: under were like yeah, and then your tree went out.
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, it's on Well. John just kind of
Speaker 1: he was because I talked to him yesterday and then
Speaker 1: he was like, will you send me a photo? Will
Speaker 1: you send me a photo? And I sent John the picture.
Speaker 1: And the true story is I like put my phone
Speaker 1: in my pocket and then it like buzzes what seems
Speaker 1: like fourteen seconds later, and it's I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys remember Steve Sucks. I think he was here
Speaker 1: at the rap party. He was like the long time
Speaker 1: stand in, like like he was like Steve stand In,
Speaker 1: anyone standing on the show, and and I look at
Speaker 1: my I'm like Steve socks and he goes, hey, if
Speaker 1: you're with Krasinski telling me it was a hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for the fantasy football buy in this year, because he's
Speaker 1: like the missioner and like, how does he know with
Speaker 1: And then suddenly my phone went like you're with John,
Speaker 1: tell him this you're blah blah blah, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. He posted it like so quickly after
Speaker 1: he got his hands on. Yeah. And now, how did
Speaker 1: you first find out about the Office? Well? I was
Speaker 1: a huge fan of the British version of the Office.
Speaker 1: So when I heard that the Office was coming to America, yea.
Speaker 1: And then when I heard was Scranton, I actually panicked.
Speaker 1: I was I went, I didn't know the mayor well,
Speaker 1: but I like, like march to city Hall, Like this
Speaker 1: is not a good thing. This is not a good
Speaker 1: because Slough. They're not kind to Slough in that show,
Speaker 1: and the mayor was trying to turn Scranton around and
Speaker 1: we were on this upswing and and so I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, slow was really the road to nowhere in
Speaker 1: that show. And um, and Chris Doherty, who's the mayor
Speaker 1: the time, he's like, well, I talked to Greg Daniels
Speaker 1: and who's the creator of the American version, and he
Speaker 1: said he's you know, it's it'll be different, like he's
Speaker 1: going to be good to the city. And I took
Speaker 1: a deep breath like, Okay, that sounds good, and I
Speaker 1: hope this Greg Daniels is everything he told you he is,
Speaker 1: and like, could I think higher of Greg Daniels, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Like he he meets Granton like another
Speaker 1: quirky level character on the show. Right, he captured the
Speaker 1: essence of who we are and that you know, to
Speaker 1: me is important because it's forever change the perception on
Speaker 1: the outside. It finally let people like the perception wasn't
Speaker 1: what the reality was to us, and now they match, right,
Speaker 1: Like the perception is the reality. And the Office was
Speaker 1: the springboard for that. Like it really had an impact
Speaker 1: on Scranton, like huge, And I know we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that a little bit, but there's the before the Office
Speaker 1: and after the Office for Scranton and for when you
Speaker 1: leave Scranton and tell people where you're from. Right, what
Speaker 1: used to happen is like I'd say I'm from Scranton,
Speaker 1: people be like, oh, I'm sorry, right right, right, Like really,
Speaker 1: And I always I never knew what they were sorry about,
Speaker 1: because I always loved to hear and thought it was
Speaker 1: a great place. But um, now it's I'm from scrant
Speaker 1: It's like I love the Office and it's your instant
Speaker 1: bond across the world with everybody, and you'll hear from
Speaker 1: all these people the connections in the love and the
Speaker 1: interesting moments that they've had outside of the area telling
Speaker 1: people that they're from Scranton, right, And I think there's
Speaker 1: a cool story about how Gregg picked Scranton too that
Speaker 1: folds into pain. Go ahead, Um so, actually Tim tells
Speaker 1: us better than I do. So, so this is Gregg's
Speaker 1: words and not ours, and we're obviously paraphrasing, but it
Speaker 1: is our understanding that he chose, you know, basically, when
Speaker 1: he's looking where he's going to do a Philosophically speaking,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a satellite brand, so it's got to
Speaker 1: be a kind of a smaller city. Uh. He felt
Speaker 1: it had East Coast sensibility, so he was kind of
Speaker 1: looking at the East coast. When he decided the home
Speaker 1: office would be in New York City, he began to
Speaker 1: look at cities with with our with with with our,
Speaker 1: which in might be a two hour driving distance. So
Speaker 1: he looks at scrant Pennsylvania, Stanford, Connecticut, Utica, New York, Nashua,
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. These may all sound familiar because they all
Speaker 1: wind up being the branches and so, and that's when
Speaker 1: he sends out these teams to go check out, and
Speaker 1: Johnny Kay happens to be one of them coming into Scranton. So,
Speaker 1: you know, from what we understand, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of little happy circumstances because it wasn't only pinned paper.
Speaker 1: There was another place here called paper Magic, which is
Speaker 1: also a place that John visited, and paper Magic is
Speaker 1: the one that had a like Greg remembers getting a
Speaker 1: greeting card that had paper paper Magic Scranton p A.
Speaker 1: So he kind of had that in mind, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's he he did say, you know, he might
Speaker 1: have just been being nice to us, but he felt
Speaker 1: Scranton was kind of the one to beat because he
Speaker 1: felt it was a big enough name just because of
Speaker 1: how big we were during the Industrial Revolution and a
Speaker 1: bunch of things, you know, for a little town, we
Speaker 1: have a big name, um, you know. And ultimately everything
Speaker 1: fell into place and it worked out wonderfully for the show,
Speaker 1: for us, for everybody involved. Magic makes all those Valentine's
Speaker 1: that used to give out in grades, paper Magic scrant
Speaker 1: p A on the back of all of them, and
Speaker 1: he remembered that so it was a confluence of things, right,
Speaker 1: and that was one of them. Yes, And he also
Speaker 1: thought the name Scranton was a funny thing to say,
Speaker 1: and it is. There's a lot of consonants all in
Speaker 1: a row, and it works around in your mouth a
Speaker 1: little bit. And so that's that was the one thing.
Speaker 1: And if you're from here, you don't pronounce the t
Speaker 1: right right, So you so you, um, you were born here.
Speaker 1: I was born here. Yeah, So that was how I
Speaker 1: heard about the office. And then probably a few years
Speaker 1: into the show. I have an architecture firm, and I
Speaker 1: was at work and I opened up my browser and
Speaker 1: there was just an article. You know, they all populate.
Speaker 1: There was an article about President Idaho getting this little
Speaker 1: economic boom from people who were fans of the cult classical,
Speaker 1: the cult movie Napoleon Dynamite going there to see all
Speaker 1: the sites, like we're the fictional home of Donder Mifflin, right,
Speaker 1: Like that seems like cooler. Um, we should invite everybody
Speaker 1: to come here and like have like invite the actors
Speaker 1: to come here and see the city and show people
Speaker 1: what it's like here and they'd have a great time.
Speaker 1: They'd meet with the fans, the city, you know, would
Speaker 1: be on displayed be a win win win, which is
Speaker 1: what we ultimately that's that's what we ultimately pitched, right
Speaker 1: like the win win win, But that's where the idea
Speaker 1: came from. And it literally went nowhere, and this is
Speaker 1: where Tim comes and went nowhere. I I met with
Speaker 1: like three groups of people until somebody was finally like,
Speaker 1: I have to introduce you to Tim Holmes. Right, I
Speaker 1: didn't know you. I didn't know each other at all,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think of a time I didn't
Speaker 1: know Tim and the homest family, right, uh. And so
Speaker 1: we were introduced, and Tim instantly saw the you know,
Speaker 1: he was got it. Yep, all right, here's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. And then he went into Tim mode right
Speaker 1: right right now? Did you know the show? Were you
Speaker 1: watching the show? So I was definitely familiar with it,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't as immersed in it as Michelle was.
Speaker 1: So I certainly saw the value in it, but it
Speaker 1: was definitely something that we were all beginning to see
Speaker 1: license plates from Ontario and South Carolina and everything driving
Speaker 1: through town that doesn't happen in Scranton, but it began
Speaker 1: to happen, and we're all like, yeah, I guess what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Michelle is making an awful lot of sense. So,
Speaker 1: and like we were doing things. And just to be clear,
Speaker 1: Tim worked for the local newspaper and I was an architect.
Speaker 1: We had no background and anything like okay, Like like
Speaker 1: Tim did planning events locally, right, so he knew how
Speaker 1: to put an event together. But this was going to
Speaker 1: be bigger than anything I think you'd ever done, right,
Speaker 1: And so here I am an architect and he's a
Speaker 1: marketing We come up with this big idea. We got
Speaker 1: all these partners on board, I remember at one point.
Speaker 1: Then then we had to go through everybody's act like
Speaker 1: agents and managers, right, Like everybody I'm calling, I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't hello, Hi, I'm representing office convention, right, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: putting together contracts. I'm like, I'm like what am I doing?
Speaker 1: Staring at a white piece of paper and like negotiating
Speaker 1: like this was crez. We had to do it all right.
Speaker 1: It was like Tim and I had to do all
Speaker 1: that was completely homegrown, which is exactly why I think
Speaker 1: Greg liked it because he could see it wasn't like
Speaker 1: some outside group that was coming in and trying to
Speaker 1: monetize this thing. It was not set up to be
Speaker 1: a you know, a for profit thing, which is why
Speaker 1: you guys gave us a breakown talent fees and you know,
Speaker 1: and they helped with travel and all this other kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. They could see right from the get go
Speaker 1: that it was it was a partnership. The partnership was
Speaker 1: with the city of granted, it was with the county,
Speaker 1: it was with the visitors Bureau. We weren't selling, you know,
Speaker 1: sponsorships where you had to put a shirt on that
Speaker 1: said somebody Sunoco. We were gonna you know, we knew
Speaker 1: enough not to do any of that stuff. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we would have conversations with Vann Park and
Speaker 1: the NBC Universal folks, and truly they were kind of
Speaker 1: put they were put on the scant. Yeah, they didn't
Speaker 1: open the door to the producers of the show and
Speaker 1: to Greg and tell what they realized we really had
Speaker 1: something that they're like, Okay, I think these guys have
Speaker 1: their stuff together, right, so we're going to now make
Speaker 1: this connection. Because we had to dream up the entire
Speaker 1: like all the the office Olympic Games. The writer's blocked
Speaker 1: like that just came out of our heads, right. That
Speaker 1: was like it was maybe about seven or eight of
Speaker 1: us that did it. Tucker Has, Matt Smith, you know,
Speaker 1: Eric Dovi and all these guys were building our websites
Speaker 1: and everything. Uh, all of that stuff was critical because
Speaker 1: they all played a certain role in it. And then
Speaker 1: all the partners, the University of scrant and all these
Speaker 1: guys tapping into all that. Once we had it all
Speaker 1: one of these conference calls. We had already had a
Speaker 1: number of them, but I later found out that at
Speaker 1: one of the big ones when they were deciding whether
Speaker 1: we're in or out, kincibor Neck had told me when
Speaker 1: he came to Scranton that he was listening in on
Speaker 1: the one and he just looking to here, if we're
Speaker 1: just a bunch of fan girls we're gonna lose our
Speaker 1: minds when you guys get to town, or if we're
Speaker 1: actually going to hold this together and keep you guys
Speaker 1: safe and have it lined up with the University of
Speaker 1: s Grand Police and you know in the s Grand
Speaker 1: Police and the State police and the Marshall's office, like
Speaker 1: Michelle's brother in laws, A he's a worked here down.
Speaker 1: We had all of that, but it's such a small town,
Speaker 1: you can do something. And our whole pitch to Greg was,
Speaker 1: you know, office fans are are unique. They need to
Speaker 1: come together like Allah's Star Trek convention. But it can't
Speaker 1: be done in l A. It cannot be done in
Speaker 1: New York. It has to be done in Scranton. Because
Speaker 1: it was such a part of the show interesting afterwards
Speaker 1: became a more part of the show, which I thought
Speaker 1: was interesting because Greg had the foresight to bring the
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Speaker 1: had come in like that may to to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna there's gonna be the office convention, like you
Speaker 1: sort of generously because at all this could have backfired, right,
Speaker 1: kind of put yourselves out in front. But come like
Speaker 1: a month before still there was nobody officially signed up
Speaker 1: to come to the day that we got our first
Speaker 1: actual country. We were panicking. They're like We're gonna have
Speaker 1: a party no matter what. And I remember you called me.
Speaker 1: You did, right, Brian, and you called me whe night.
Speaker 1: You're like, how's it going, And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's going pretty well. I'm trying to keep
Speaker 1: up the front, like it's come pretty well. You know,
Speaker 1: all the plannings seems to be happening. You know, we
Speaker 1: got this, that got that, and um, yeah, we just
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have any of the actors yet. And you
Speaker 1: said something that made my stomach drop first. He said,
Speaker 1: I just want to start by apologizing. I'm just so sorry.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm like, okay, it's cool. Um
Speaker 1: trying to keep up, you know, with the front again.
Speaker 1: And You're like, I've talked to my people, and um,
Speaker 1: I can I can only convince thirteen of them. I
Speaker 1: think I'm pretty sure. I started crying on the phone, right,
Speaker 1: I was like so emotional and all I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I said. After that, I just lost it
Speaker 1: and I was just like, is that was that? I
Speaker 1: knew it was gonna happen. It was gonna be this thing,
Speaker 1: and it was going to be unprecedented, you know. That
Speaker 1: was everything that moment to me. With with you on
Speaker 1: the phone. It was just too much. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: So just to put a timeline on this, so this
Speaker 1: is two thousand six, so you're already in season three
Speaker 1: at this point. We hosted it in October, late October,
Speaker 1: but that was we all remember that day when you're like,
Speaker 1: we got twelve now, the beauty of that. So you
Speaker 1: may remember that none of the Fab four could make
Speaker 1: it that year, right, So Steve, John, Jenna and uh
Speaker 1: and Rain could not make it, you know, just conflicts
Speaker 1: and all that other kind of stuff. What we felt
Speaker 1: from the very beginning is the actually convention was so
Speaker 1: special because it celebrated the ensemble cast. Everybody else was there,
Speaker 1: all the writers were there, so it really you know,
Speaker 1: we you know, we're glad that we didn't want to distracted.
Speaker 1: Jenny Tan was there, like Danster was there, but we
Speaker 1: you know, we were able to build it and get
Speaker 1: our around it, you know. And the people who were
Speaker 1: they were truly office fans, you know, they weren't four
Speaker 1: year old virgin fans. They were office fans. And that
Speaker 1: was why that was the first one was so special,
Speaker 1: and it was packed. It was packed. I was actually there, yes,
Speaker 1: and I thought like it was one of the moments
Speaker 1: to me because I was up in the balcony kind
Speaker 1: of looking down and just enjoying it so much. And
Speaker 1: each writer told episode that they wrote and and people
Speaker 1: were like cheering for the episodes, like I, you know,
Speaker 1: I did the baconator with the George Foreming girl that
Speaker 1: was Ben failing. And but the cool moment too, was
Speaker 1: at the end. First everybody was so into it, but
Speaker 1: then at the end they did a little clip of
Speaker 1: a piece of a show that hadn't been seen yet,
Speaker 1: and the crowd got to watch it live, and the
Speaker 1: actor or the writers later told us they'd never like
Speaker 1: they'd never gotten to see the fans watched the show
Speaker 1: and get the reaction in real time, and that that
Speaker 1: was like a really cool moment for them to hear
Speaker 1: them laughing or they hope they get a laugh and
Speaker 1: like just so appreciating the beauty and the joy of it.
Speaker 1: You know. Well, I remember, yeah, I remember, I mean
Speaker 1: from my side, and I don't even think that I
Speaker 1: was aware that it was like a tryout. I remember
Speaker 1: coming there was this brunch and I remember Tim saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, this was like for v I p things
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not sure how many people are
Speaker 1: going to be there, but you know, then we've got this, this, this,
Speaker 1: and Angela and I show up and I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember this, but like something happened and we
Speaker 1: were walking into a room that was way over fire
Speaker 1: code capacity of people and us walking in and like
Speaker 1: you just like you feel a wave of heat from
Speaker 1: bodies just walking into this room, and I like I
Speaker 1: remember like my breath like being taken away, like the
Speaker 1: where the fuck am I and I could say whatever
Speaker 1: we want. I could say whatever I want and I
Speaker 1: and I I mean, I will never I will never forget.
Speaker 1: I mean, I will tell you right now. There was
Speaker 1: a plan in place of the V I P. And
Speaker 1: they were gonna be able to have a picture with us.
Speaker 1: And then so many people came and you were like, okay,
Speaker 1: so here's the plan. You're gonna go around to each
Speaker 1: table and they were like banquet tables of like ten
Speaker 1: or twelve people. You're gonna go around to each table
Speaker 1: and you're gonna say hi to each table, and then
Speaker 1: they'll take a picture with you, and then you'll move
Speaker 1: around to the next table. And what happened was there
Speaker 1: were so many people that you you begin, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a percent what happened. People started thinking they're
Speaker 1: not going to get to us, like they're gonna leave
Speaker 1: before it's our turn. And so then the plan went
Speaker 1: awry and everybody stood up and started just like descending
Speaker 1: into this corner. And I had Gen Garrity police officers
Speaker 1: police officer Jen Garrity four ft ten and I was
Speaker 1: told could take me over her back if she needed
Speaker 1: to body slam me. Um. And I remember I was
Speaker 1: taking napkins off the table because it was so hot
Speaker 1: and there were so many people, and I was like
Speaker 1: white base and she's like her eyes are big, like whoa.
Speaker 1: And I turned around to her at one point and
Speaker 1: I said, and I, I mean, you have to understand,
Speaker 1: I'm just a theater guy from Atlanta, Georgia. Like this
Speaker 1: is I was like, what is going on? I turned
Speaker 1: her at one point, I looked, I looked in her
Speaker 1: eyes and I said, okay, I just I need I
Speaker 1: need to make sure you know you're watching my back
Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm going to die. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to make it out of here.
Speaker 1: If I know you got my back, we're good. Um.
Speaker 1: And just that whole trip the um, you know, the
Speaker 1: roof already and everything. So when we came, you had
Speaker 1: this idea to do the convention, and then we came
Speaker 1: and was clearly I mean, I feel I feel like
Speaker 1: even then it was surpassing your expectation. Were you surprised
Speaker 1: by people's reaction or was that had you come to
Speaker 1: know that this was how it was going to be.
Speaker 1: I think from your visits we knew if everybody came
Speaker 1: it would be something epic. It was even more epic.
Speaker 1: It was just beyond like you can't imagine those things, right,
Speaker 1: Like even when you try, it's like it's just because
Speaker 1: there are so many stories from that visit. So the
Speaker 1: Today Show came right and they filmed live at the
Speaker 1: University of Scranton. And then we're realizing that everybody things
Speaker 1: actors are like otherworldly and kind of whatever. And because
Speaker 1: we had this him and I had this sort of
Speaker 1: backstage access, we're realizing, my god, they're just people who
Speaker 1: and this is kind of new to them too, right.
Speaker 1: So Phil was getting ready with Stanley to go out
Speaker 1: and be interviewed by by All Broker and and when
Speaker 1: she came out on the crowd, went insane, insane, insane,
Speaker 1: and she got very emotional because she never felt anything
Speaker 1: like that. Like she wasn't she one of the people
Speaker 1: who helped casting. Yeah, yeah, she she started out in casting,
Speaker 1: wasn't an actor, and Ken Kappas and Greg Daniels and
Speaker 1: everybody just thought, well, this is what we're looking for.
Speaker 1: We're looking for real people. And yeah, she got cast.
Speaker 1: So she was here since she was feeling this reaction
Speaker 1: and right she was one of the first famous faces
Speaker 1: the kids saw. So like that was you guys had
Speaker 1: come on a Thursday night, Friday night, we're about to
Speaker 1: go live. It's a three day convention. And again this
Speaker 1: is October two thousand six, season three, so we have
Speaker 1: we all stay out way too late Thursday night, so
Speaker 1: you guys all come to town birthday. It was Craig Robinson.
Speaker 1: So we you know, we say at what was Whistles
Speaker 1: Pub back in the day, and we're doing karaoke. It
Speaker 1: we just wound up in a wild night. So now
Speaker 1: it's we've got to be here at like six in
Speaker 1: the morning because we're going live with local TV stations.
Speaker 1: So the students at the University's Granton, about four thousand
Speaker 1: of them camped outside, so they are waiting all night
Speaker 1: long for this and they are losing their minds. And
Speaker 1: so it's when we're pulling, you know, out of the
Speaker 1: out of the kind of the staging area. We're pulling
Speaker 1: phill Us out of there, she is like, if you remember,
Speaker 1: she had like a cane. She had hurt her ankle
Speaker 1: that we so she has like this cane and she
Speaker 1: has her purse on her arm like she's just like
Speaker 1: going to the store. And as we're walking out the door,
Speaker 1: it's like, go time. We're gonna be live in about
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, she starts reaching in her purse to get
Speaker 1: out of camera to take a picture for her mom. Again,
Speaker 1: that's that's the part that she's a regular person, you know,
Speaker 1: and so I like grab the camera and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'll take pictures or your mom, you gotta get on
Speaker 1: national TV. So it's just those experiences. But everyone, you know,
Speaker 1: every one of the folks at Helms is a young guy.
Speaker 1: He's never been in the hangover, Like people don't know
Speaker 1: who he is. And we have them playing a banjo
Speaker 1: at the bog, which is legitimately about three square feet.
Speaker 1: So many things that happened but I remember, um, we
Speaker 1: were actually in this room, I think I know it
Speaker 1: was another building at the and uh we had fireworks
Speaker 1: going off and it was another really nice event. But
Speaker 1: a gentleman came over to me and he said, are
Speaker 1: you Michelle Dempsey? And I said yes, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, who are you? And it was Greg Daniel's dad.
Speaker 1: And I was like, and he told me that he
Speaker 1: knows like catching my breath right, and he's like, he's like,
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that I've been
Speaker 1: to an oscars and I've been to an Emmy's and
Speaker 1: you know, I've been a super Bowl. He's like, he's like,
Speaker 1: and this is the best party I've ever been to.
Speaker 1: This this weekends. Now it was in his son's honor
Speaker 1: and like a little right, but but like for us,
Speaker 1: I think that moment was like wow, like this did
Speaker 1: happen and it came together and people are enjoying it.
Speaker 1: And then the letters we got afterwards from the fans
Speaker 1: who came that would just melt your heart about how
Speaker 1: is the best weekend in the lives or you know
Speaker 1: people who came here who you know, we're special needs,
Speaker 1: who got to meet their their heroes right like it.
Speaker 1: It really was. For some people, they had the best day,
Speaker 1: weekend of their lives and script because of the office.
Speaker 1: The press was also a great thing. So you talked
Speaker 1: about the letters we received and everything, you know, we got.
Speaker 1: We were in the China Times like the we got
Speaker 1: on the ap wire. It was a sweetheart of a story.
Speaker 1: So it was in every newspaper in the nation, you know,
Speaker 1: back when people read newspapers. It was in I forget
Speaker 1: what paper. But one of them said that it was
Speaker 1: like a Star Trek convention with girls. But it just
Speaker 1: it was just great group of people. Everybody was happy.
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Speaker 1: found out? The show was? Of course bittersweet? Right, it
Speaker 1: felt like it had this amazing like if you go
Speaker 1: on too long, as like knowing when to end. I
Speaker 1: guess it's as important as anything else, right, Um, So
Speaker 1: it was like sad, but oh my god, the way
Speaker 1: the show ended was so there's not a show in
Speaker 1: anywhere in TV history that ended more beautifully in my
Speaker 1: personal opinion, than the big endings that you can talk about,
Speaker 1: but this was this was fantastic, awesome. So so we
Speaker 1: just I think a texted um it's time and you
Speaker 1: were like let's go or something. It was like a
Speaker 1: real nice little we were both almost like kid met
Speaker 1: like the same moment saying we've got it. Take a
Speaker 1: deep breath, we're going to do it again. So just
Speaker 1: so you know, it didn't that didn't just come out
Speaker 1: of thin air. So as we were wrapping up the Sunday,
Speaker 1: Greg Daniels, you know, everybody had already gotten off. Greg
Speaker 1: was on one of the last flights out of Scranton.
Speaker 1: You know, we got to have a moment with him
Speaker 1: where we just said, you know, hey, this was awesome.
Speaker 1: You're welcome to do this anytime you want to come
Speaker 1: on back. If we can't do something like this every
Speaker 1: year every year, just at least consider doing a rap
Speaker 1: party here, you know, and just instead of going wherever
Speaker 1: you would normally go, just get on an airplane party
Speaker 1: at thirty thousand feet and let's just do it here.
Speaker 1: And instead of this crazy three day thing, let's cram
Speaker 1: it into one super awesome day. Because we already knew
Speaker 1: once it had started that was way too big and unwieldy.
Speaker 1: You know. Just when I went out and it was
Speaker 1: Steve Corral he was He's like, I'd love to be
Speaker 1: in a parade and screened now here. You have a
Speaker 1: big parade, right and you wanted to be in a
Speaker 1: coffee cup world best boss. I like, you want a
Speaker 1: parade and screen You've got a parade, say the word.
Speaker 1: And we did. We had a parade. We had it
Speaker 1: all mapped out. It was a perfect, like four block
Speaker 1: parade to this awesome thing we had set up right
Speaker 1: at Courthouse Square. And everybody is off on the streets
Speaker 1: easily twenty people on the streets and just a very
Speaker 1: small area and us everything is looking good. I take
Speaker 1: a nice little picture of the parade route. We've got
Speaker 1: everybody in the beautiful open cars and everything. The first
Speaker 1: guy we have going down as Craig Robinson, and he
Speaker 1: is on, you know, on the back of his pickup truck,
Speaker 1: and he just starts dancing. He's got his arms and
Speaker 1: he starts waving the crowd to come in. You're too
Speaker 1: far away, come on. That's how it happened. And the
Speaker 1: whole the entire length of the parade route all collapsed
Speaker 1: on the parade, So we were literally elbowing eighteen year
Speaker 1: old girls away from but Steve Carell, we could have
Speaker 1: never protected him. It was just again the whole thing
Speaker 1: that that evening, and just the the genuine smiles on
Speaker 1: the faces of everybody. Yes, the fans could not. I
Speaker 1: mean I think they lost their mond, like they couldn't
Speaker 1: have if you that is what happiness looks like. That's
Speaker 1: what joy looks like. That stadium is like what joy
Speaker 1: looks like if you get to see it right, And
Speaker 1: and everybody's faces were just lit up like and including Steve's.
Speaker 1: He came out and he just you could tell, even
Speaker 1: at that level of fame, he genuinely appreciates that those
Speaker 1: people were there, you know, to to to to appreciate
Speaker 1: the body of work that was created, you know, and
Speaker 1: and and you guys as individual actors and you're extreme
Speaker 1: and massive talent that brings. I was thinking about the
Speaker 1: other night because I went home and I was you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how your day is, you put the
Speaker 1: office on and you're gonna smile and you're gonna laugh,
Speaker 1: you know. For me, I adopted two boys three years
Speaker 1: ago from Kyrgyzstan. So they came over. They spoke Russian
Speaker 1: in order of English and um, we were still using translators. Um.
Speaker 1: And my older son started watching The Office, probably because
Speaker 1: it was in my saved programs, right, and he just
Speaker 1: started binging it. And I'm like, well, maybe there's a
Speaker 1: little inappropriate here and there, but what's he gonna know? Right,
Speaker 1: let him watch it, right, and one I'm sort of
Speaker 1: sitting there watching it with him, and he's laughing at
Speaker 1: the jokes. He's laughing at all, right, not just the slapstick,
Speaker 1: He's laughing at all the right spots. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: he can't talk to me yet, but he knows what's
Speaker 1: happening here, right, And I'm like, so he probably knows
Speaker 1: when I say clean your room too, but like you,
Speaker 1: But it was the the appeal was so unique, Like
Speaker 1: what is that? I don't know. I can't see it
Speaker 1: ever ending because it's just it's timeless. It is timeless. Well, Ken,
Speaker 1: today I was talking about I said, what is the
Speaker 1: Office done for Scranton? Why is the Office so special?
Speaker 1: Or why is that bond there? And he just very
Speaker 1: plain spoken, said, well, what is your life and your
Speaker 1: career since the office and I said, well, it's completely
Speaker 1: and totally changed me and and people's pers option on me.
Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, that's that's the town too. And
Speaker 1: I can't explain it is it makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1: I'm a guy from Georgia that now lives in California,
Speaker 1: but the the bond that I feel to this place,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. I am telling you. I
Speaker 1: said this when you got here, like you are, your
Speaker 1: love is so it's so real, it's so felt by us.
Speaker 1: And I think maybe you're you're feeling that genuine love
Speaker 1: that people have for you here because it is it's
Speaker 1: as real as it as it gets for someone that
Speaker 1: you didn't grow up with, who wasn't your family, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But they feel your your love,
Speaker 1: We feel your love for us a town that wasn't
Speaker 1: loved for a long time, right, And you came here
Speaker 1: and you're like, I this is this is part of
Speaker 1: me now you know, and we get it and we
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah. But the two of you and the
Speaker 1: initiative you showed, and how respectful you were of the
Speaker 1: show as we tried to be of Scranton, your love
Speaker 1: of the place, and how hard. I know you were.
Speaker 1: The show was a little engine that could terrible ratings.
Speaker 1: We were trying to do something new and different. And
Speaker 1: you know, my my last impression or memory from the
Speaker 1: office convention was, you know, they said yes, but did
Speaker 1: they think it was going to be a success. And
Speaker 1: all I remember is we had a three day convention,
Speaker 1: an NBC sent only one semi truck of merchandise down
Speaker 1: and by halfway through the first day everything was gone.
Speaker 1: And I think we were under underestimated. You guys were underestimated,
Speaker 1: and our fans were underestimated in a way. And you
Speaker 1: guys will always have huge love in my heart and
Speaker 1: appreciation for the two of you and what what you
Speaker 1: did for us. I just want to thank you. That
Speaker 1: is wonderful, but we certainly appreciate it. And as we said,
Speaker 1: without your connection, it never happens. And uh, we all
Speaker 1: pass this way but once and at the you know,
Speaker 1: my parents are in a nursing home right now and
Speaker 1: they look back and look at the fun times in
Speaker 1: their lives. We'll all be doing that soon enough. And
Speaker 1: those real connections that you create is all that matters,
Speaker 1: you know, And this has been wonderful. I said to
Speaker 1: Um to Greg after after I think after the originally commention,
Speaker 1: I said, thank you for the rocking chair stories. You know,
Speaker 1: these are experienced is and memories. When I'm an old
Speaker 1: lady on the rocking chair and the old folks home,
Speaker 1: I'll be still be telling people about until they don't
Speaker 1: want to hear it anymore. But Mike, it's still good though.
Speaker 1: And uh, and so we have these rocking chair stories now,
Speaker 1: thanks to the Office, thanks to Greg's risk taking belief
Speaker 1: in us. And we always tell people who ask us,
Speaker 1: like these characters you love, they deserve your love because
Speaker 1: as people through the exact same it's like you are
Speaker 1: just salt to the earth. Amazing wonderful people too. And
Speaker 1: and so where maybe I'll end it is sort of
Speaker 1: what I heard um Steve Carl say to a little
Speaker 1: group of people at the rap party. Um, he said,
Speaker 1: don't be sad it's over. Be happy it happened. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm a rocking chair. So I'm gonna feel
Speaker 1: about my life too, write And this is something I
Speaker 1: always these these events and even these conversations like the
Speaker 1: Office gave us this and you just that's priceless. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, guys. So much No, and thank you for
Speaker 1: coming and talking to me and being so open and
Speaker 1: letting me, letting me come back again. I sopate always welcome.
Speaker 1: All right. Wow, that got a little emotional there at
Speaker 1: the end. Thank you Tim and Michelle, I love you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being so open with us, and and
Speaker 1: thank you Scranton for always welcoming me home. But before
Speaker 1: I wrap this episode up, I just want to give
Speaker 1: a shout out to a few of the other folks
Speaker 1: who made my last trip to Scranton so special. First,
Speaker 1: I want to thank Ken, the limo guy who that's
Speaker 1: he's my go to driver in Scranton and always make
Speaker 1: sure I get to all of the planned destinations on
Speaker 1: time or at least fashionably late. Two Mayor Paige GEPHARDT. Cognetti.
Speaker 1: And to the Scranton Police Department, especially my dear old
Speaker 1: friend Jen Garrity for keeping us safe. The University of Scranton,
Speaker 1: who not only bestowed my new certificate in Scrantology, but
Speaker 1: also helped us organize the Q and A and the
Speaker 1: book signing for hundreds of students who might I add,
Speaker 1: waited for hours in the rain. Thank you to the President,
Speaker 1: Reverend Joseph Marina, the executive director of Conferences and Events Services,
Speaker 1: Frannie Mancuso, the director of News and Media Relations, stand Sigmunt,
Speaker 1: the Vice president for Student Life Bobby Davis, and the
Speaker 1: Director of the Center for Health, Education and Wellness, Stephanie Adamack,
Speaker 1: who very kindly volunteered to moderate the Q and A.
Speaker 1: The bookstore staff Lisa Mikhailo and Wayne Beach who stocked
Speaker 1: over a thousand books for us. Also a big thank
Speaker 1: you to the students who helped organize the event and
Speaker 1: to all the fans who attended. Next my people from
Speaker 1: Cooper's Cooper's Seafood House. Big thanks to Jack, Paul, Mark, Ryan,
Speaker 1: the whole gang you open your doors for hundreds of
Speaker 1: fans who wanted to get their books signed, including the
Speaker 1: bride that I mentioned in the preface of the book.
Speaker 1: To Patrick and Billy Nassair, Tony Potas, Eric Miller, the
Speaker 1: whole crew at Backyard Ale House for well the most
Speaker 1: unforgettable after party ever in the world, where I tended
Speaker 1: bar into the wee hours of the night. It is,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, my favorite pub in the entire world. Finally,
Speaker 1: one more giant thank you to Tim and Michelle and
Speaker 1: their families for greeting me with open arms and making
Speaker 1: my trips back home to Scranton so special. So everyone listening,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the next time you're in script, all right,
Speaker 1: you have to check out each and every one of
Speaker 1: their establishments. Get the full office experience, and you will
Speaker 1: get a big Scranton welcome and listen. Just tell him
Speaker 1: Brian send you. I hope you all have a fantastic Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I will see you next week for another special edition
Speaker 1: of the Office Deep Dive. Where are you guys from
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Speaker 1: got married at the Redis and when the convention was on,
Speaker 1: then you and away downstairs and you take a picture
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Speaker 1: walked into the office theme. I have a tattoo of
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