1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 3: We're now going to have our guests. Is San Diego 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: County Supervisor Jim Desmond come back on The John and 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 3: Ken Show, and he is calling. 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: On the county to. 8 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: Declare a humanitarian crisis over what's been going on at 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: the border with all the migrants. Let's find out what's 10 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: going on there and more on this story. Jim, welcome 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 3: back to the show. 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 4: Hey, John and Ken, thanks for doing this. Hey, hey, 13 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 4: thanks shutting me on. 14 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: This is the first we heard of that San Diego is 15 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: getting a big migrant inflow. 16 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: Tell us about it. 17 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: Oh, well, in the last eight or nine days, we've 18 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 4: gotten over sixty five hundred migrants just dropped in our community. 19 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: They've been dropping him at transit site. So transportation site. 20 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: Who's they community? Because the government, the federal government. This 21 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: isn't the Texas governor. 22 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: This is no, this is not Abbott's. He didn't send 23 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: buffalows over. This is our own federal government, the Border 24 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: Patrol and Department of Homeland Secure. Uh, they're facilities for 25 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 4: processing asylum seekers in San Diego County. Are at capacity, 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: they're filled, there's no room. And so what they've been 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: doing then is dropping migrants at our transit sites and 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: saying see you later, goodbye. You're on your own. They 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: don't give them any help and how to buy a 30 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 4: bus ticket or take them to the airport or anything. 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: So you're talking about people who are claiming asylum after 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: crossing the Mexican California border. Yes, yes, okay, And so 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: then they're being transported to these uh I guess train stations, right, 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: bus stations, bus stations and told you to go do 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: the best you can. And do they have any money 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: or any kind of like welfare vouchers, food stamps, the 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: many of. 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: Them have money, some some have cell phones, you know, 39 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: to do most of them within a day or two 40 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: are somewhere else in the country. They're gone because they 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: in order to have a is you have to seek 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: you have to have a sponsor. And so once they 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: try to go to their sponsor, but many of them, 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: about ten percent at least, are stuck here for the night. 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: They don't have the money, they can't get a hold 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: of their sponsor. And so what's happening is our you know, 47 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: nonprofits and our charities are meeting these people at you know, 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: at these drop off centers. We only get about thirty 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: minute heads up when they're when the federal government is 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: going to drop them off, and they're helping them, you know, 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: to get on their way. They're supplying them of food 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 4: and phone chargers and things like that, trying to help 53 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: them get to their final destination. But what's happening is 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: these same charities and nonprofits, they're the ones that we 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: are funding to help us with a homeless problem, and 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: instead now they're focuses on these migrants. They're using some 57 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 4: of the housing and hotel vouchers that we use for 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: our homeless population, using some of the hotels. 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: And. 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: So you know, the eyes off are you know, our 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: nonprofits are focusing more on are focusing on migrants instead 62 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: of on the home of this population that you know, 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: we already have that issue here and so just having 64 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: these people dropped off it's not fair to them, it's 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: not fair to the community that lives near these sites. 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: And the first question they asked when they get off 67 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: is where am I? 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: You know? 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: In that was I was an ocean side the other 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: day and it was one of the drop off sites 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: and they about twenty people got dropped off the morning 72 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: I was there yesterday morning, and they didn't know where 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: they were. They wanted, you know, either to you know, 74 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: their cell phone charts, or they wanted to ride to 75 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: the airport to get to their sponsors. But many of 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: them are just bewildered and not know, do not know 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: what to do. And this is a federal government just 78 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: dropping people in our neighborhoods. So, you know, the same 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: thing that they're blaming Abbott and DeSantis for the federal 80 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: governments doing the same to. 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: The federal government has relocated are more illegal aliens than 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Abbot or DeSantis, because we've gotten millions of these people. 83 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: So it had to be the Feds that are distributing 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: them around the country because Abbott only sent about thirteen 85 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: thousand in New York and DeSantis has just sent out 86 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: a handful. Most of it is Biden's administrations setting out 87 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: literally millions of people. Some of them are are their 88 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: self relocating. 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: Well, and some of them have the means to do it, 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: and some of them are you know, when they get 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: dropped off, they they can get to their sponsor's location, 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: but you know, they most of them, don't know how 93 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: to use our train system or bus system or things 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: like that, and they're just being dropped off. To me, 95 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: the federal government needs to do their job and not 96 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: just drop people off. And now the citizens of San 97 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: Diego County have to, you know, manage and process these 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: people are not processed. Just manage and try to get them, 99 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: get them to where they're going. And quite frankly, a 100 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: lot of them are going to New York. Why I 101 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: don't know, but a lot of them are headed to 102 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: New York with you. 103 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: Well, while they're getting the news. Is a right to 104 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: shelter law there? Apparently that people believe there's resources there. 105 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 1: You get free shelter. 106 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Eric Adams is trying to get them get it expedited 107 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: so that they get jobs more quickly. So if you 108 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: got shelter and a job, and then you'll start accessing 109 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: the you know, the vast welfare system. 110 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, what's not to like about that deal? 111 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. And many of these charities and 112 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: non profits are asking us the county for money. They're 113 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: asking us for money so they can continue their efforts. 114 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: It's like, well, we're not the Immigration Department, the county 115 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 4: we got all these other responsibilities. We're not immigration. And 116 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: I talked to my congressman at length the other day 117 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: and I said, you know, I really don't want your money. 118 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 4: I just want you, the federal government, to do finish 119 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: your job and not just drop off migrants here in 120 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 4: our streets. 121 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: And the administration doesn't care. I mean Eric Adams in 122 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: the mayor of New York. 123 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: He says, all city departments their budgets are going to 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: be cut five percent across the board, and the money 125 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: has to be diverted to illegal alien services. 126 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen. Now, Yeah, that's problem. 127 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: I'm trying to hold the line here in San Diego 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: County and say no, that's a federal government where he 129 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 4: we shouldn't be spending. You know, what my question is 130 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: to these agencies is what homeless program do you want 131 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: me to take the money from. 132 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: What does this congressman tell you when when you when 133 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: you said to him, this has to be the federal 134 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: government doing something here. 135 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: What does he say, Well, he said he didn't have 136 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: any quick answers, but maybe they're She's telling me they're 137 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: working on a bill. But you know it's three or four. 138 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: Years off, three or four years off, Jim, Is anybody 139 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: in government besides you? 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Is there anybody who's not a boob? 141 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 4: Well I've been called that a few times, but depending 142 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 4: on who you talk to. But it's just common sense. 143 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I use this analogy. It's like 144 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: pouring a glass of water, when when the glass is full, 145 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: you stop pouring. 146 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: But that's what's you. 147 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: Know, the federal government services here in San Diego County, 148 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: they're a capacity. They're overwhelmed. I can't stop bringing them in. 149 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: I can't believe how stupid this policy is. This is 150 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: a really incredibly overwhelmingly stupid policy. First of all, it's 151 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: wildly unpopular. Biden's approval rating on immigration is twenty three percent. 152 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: I mean, imagine getting seventy seven percent of the country 153 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: to agree on a politically a political hot button issue. Well, 154 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: he's done it, seventy seven percent. He's doing a horrible 155 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: job of immigration. The cities are full. It's taking money 156 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: away from the homeless people and other poor people. Now 157 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: the cutting the general budget for all the citizens, they're 158 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: still full. 159 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: You can't create any more shelter space. 160 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent capacity, and they send more in 161 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: and more in well, what good is going to come 162 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: of this? 163 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: I hope that more awareness happens, particularly, you know, you 164 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: it's San Diego. We're a border community, and so we're 165 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: kind of not we're used to it, but but it 166 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: happens here a lot more often. So I'm glad to 167 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: see New York and Chicago and Denver whoever else is 168 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: getting and even some city of Montana right about that, 169 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: you know, it is getting this. So hopefully the awareness 170 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: in Congress and DC does something and gets us, give us, 171 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: give us an immigration system that works. What they're doing 172 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: is just failed. And and you know, the common middle 173 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: of the road citizen says, what the heck is going 174 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: on here? Why are things going this way and just 175 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: being dropped off in my neighborhood. It's it's nuts, all right. 176 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: Jim, Always a pleasure to talk to you. 177 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: Thanks for coming on, all right, Thanks Johnny Can, thanks 178 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: for bringing us to attention, every raised attention. 179 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Okay. Sure. 180 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: At San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond, who says we 181 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: got to declare some sort of crisis because in San 182 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: Diego they're seeing the federal government's just dropping off migrants 183 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: left and right at bus stations, transitations and good luck, 184 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: and he says it's overwhelming, both the county and the 185 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 3: nonprofits that deal with this. Yeah, unlike months ago when 186 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: we were dealing with the end of what was it 187 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: tight there was a lot of people have no idea 188 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: how big this migrant crisis has become. 189 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: Again. 190 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: The Texas mayor this this Democrat, Oscar Lesser or Leezer, 191 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: held a news conference Esday saying that El Paso has 192 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: seeing two thousand migrants a day coming into their two 193 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: thousand a day coming into their town looking for asylum 194 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: in the city. 195 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: I saw eleven thousand came over today. Fox News had 196 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: a story in the whole in the whole region, the 197 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: whole order or not mostly this border. Yeah, now eleven thousand, 198 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: which is in line with what's happened for the last 199 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: week ten days. It's been around averaging round ten thousand 200 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: a day. 201 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: And I heard a lot of the surgeons coming from Venezuela, 202 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: and of course Biden just gave them a gift work permits. 203 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: But you have to have been here by July thirty first, 204 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 3: But that doesn't get across to people. 205 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: Well, it just hearing oh, yeah, something of it. I 206 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: can work. If I go there, you just get on there. 207 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: They'll change it. 208 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: Everybody who gets in is going to get whatever paperwork, 209 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: whatever approval they need. Maybe it takes, you know, thirty days, 210 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: maybe it takes a year. In the long run, they're 211 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: all going to get it. It's going to be basically, 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,239 Speaker 2: let's call it functional amnesty. 213 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: All right. 214 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not going to be an official amnesty document 215 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: from the Congress and the President, but they'll create the 216 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: bureaucracy and they will facilitate whatever payments and whatever paperwork 217 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: is necessary, so they could live just the same as 218 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: US citizens, yet you would be able to tell the difference. 219 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: And that's what they want to do. That is the purpose. 220 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: This is not incompetence. This is the plan. This is 221 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: what they wanted to do as soon as they got 222 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: into the White House. 223 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Well, meanwhile, President Joe Biden is taking care of important business. 224 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: He attended the Congressional Black Caucus Dinner on Saturday night, 225 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: the fifty second Annual Legislative Conference. This awards dinner in Washington, 226 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: d for the Congressional Black Caucus, and of course, making 227 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: the rounds is that Biden had a little trouble with 228 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: one of the honorees, who was well, the rapper LL 229 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: cool J. Remember him? 230 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: Sure he still hosts the Grammys frequently, he does. He 231 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: was involved in hosting a number of shows too. 232 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: But of course, well, here's what happened when Biden tried 233 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: to mention him two of the great artists of our 234 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: time representing the groundbreaking legacy of hip hop in America. 235 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: L J cool J. 236 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: By the way, that boy's got he got man's got 237 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: biceps bigger than my thighs. 238 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I think he's pa. Well they're laughing. First of all, 239 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Joe couldn't get his name out correctly, adding another J. 240 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: I guess LLJ cool J. Yeah. 241 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: And then of course, referring to him as boy has 242 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: gotten a reaction. 243 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: That's that's a racial slur. That's how slave owners referred 244 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: to their slave hands as boy. That was supposed to 245 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: be a really disparaging pejorative. 246 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: Ll cool Jay's birth name is James Todd Smith. 247 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: But clearly, oh I thought ellll cool Jay works as 248 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: a rapper name. But he thought he was born ELK. Yeah, 249 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: that's what I thought. 250 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: So these rappers, those are all stage names they might be, 251 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: Is that right? Yea, they might be, well, you learned 252 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: something every day now, So Joe, as frequently it says 253 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: here he uses the name boy to refer to younger politicians, 254 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: and of course everybody's pretty much younger than him. So 255 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if he uses that on black men 256 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: as well as white man. 257 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: He makes weird comments about about blacks. He always has, 258 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: he had because he grew up but in the nineteen fifties. 259 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: Yes, he was born in nineteen forty two, right, yeah, 260 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: so he he and he's from a blue collar down. 261 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: They so it slips out of them from time to time, 262 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: just kind of like mildly pejoratives. 263 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: Well, especially when he's relaxed and he wants to talk 264 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: off the cuff. 265 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: Remember when he described as he described Obama as clean 266 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: and articulate. 267 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: Oh, I do remember that, ye right. 268 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: It's those sort of backhanded implications that he specializes in. 269 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: Oh and you miss some good stuff today, including an 270 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: interview with a prosecutor who's trying to help out a 271 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 3: family prevent the murderers of their parents be released one 272 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: at a time. It's a good interview. It's about how 273 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: California now has decided doesn't matter how heinous a crime 274 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 3: you committed, there's always a chance we're going to release you. 275 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: Even pick axe to the eyes of the pick axe 276 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: to the eyes. 277 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: And those people may be getting out. 278 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: Ordered a couple in Modesto in nineteen seventy nine, and 279 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: the first of the four is already released. And that's 280 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: what we talked about with asial prosecutor, Psycho Newsom. 281 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: He's all over the place. 282 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: Well, a story I found kind of fascinating appeared the 283 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 3: other day in the El Segundo Times by one of 284 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: their foreign foreign correspondents, and the idea was researchers were 285 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: trying to come up with how many people in the world, 286 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: I guess, but obviously this would focus on a couple 287 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: of countries. How many people work for the drug cartels 288 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: or the cartels since they also engage in smuggling of 289 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: people of many, many operations. 290 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: So they came up with an. 291 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: Estimate of one hundred and seventy five thousand people. This 292 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: would make the cartels Mexico's fifth largest employer, which I 293 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: took a look here just to give you a general idea, 294 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: and you know what company I found that is right 295 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: on par with one hundred and seventy five thousand employees. 296 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of in the news right now. 297 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: General Motors, Oh Motors has about one hundred and sixty 298 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: seven thousand employees. So if this is true about the cartels, 299 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: then the cartels are in line. That makes sense, doesn't 300 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: it to company? The size of General Motors. 301 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that really puts it an easy to understand perspective 302 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: the Mexican drug cartels. The size of General Motors. Wow, yes, 303 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: Now this would be a number of cartels. It wouldn't 304 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: just be the ones you hear about. Even there's a 305 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: bunch of smaller cartels. 306 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: It says here the study created a greatly fragmented panorama 307 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: of one hundred and fifty cartels. Many are small regional 308 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: bands that are not necessarily affiliated with these sophisticated transnational syndicates. 309 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: But that gives you an idea about how many cartels 310 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: they think are running around in Mexico. About one hundred 311 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: and fift So that's the whole industry. Whole industries, one 312 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five one hundred and seventy five thousand, 313 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: and we are the largest market, both for humans and 314 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: for drugs. Estimates of annual profits started six billion dollars 315 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: and head upwards. I mean, really, what are the expenses 316 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: if you run a cartel? 317 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: Right, well, you have to I guess the heads of 318 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: all the governments what you do, or you have the 319 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: bride money. I cannot believe that there aren't a lot 320 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: of American politicians taking money from the cartels in order 321 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: to allow this border situation to go the way it's going. 322 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: And there's no other explanation. I do not understand letting 323 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: in millions of people. It helps no one, It hurts 324 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: Americans in many ways. Why would an American president and 325 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: the Congress allow this to go on? Either either they're 326 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: getting money, or they're getting such severe they're getting severe 327 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: death threats that they don't think they can be protected properly. 328 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: Or maybe it's both, but I. 329 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: Don't I don't understand from a policy standpoint, from just 330 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: a reality standpoint, why any American president or Congress would 331 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: allow us. 332 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: So, the researchers looked at statistics trying to figure out 333 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: who's in prison, who's dead. During the last decade, Mexican 334 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 3: cartels have to recruit three hundred and fifty to three 335 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy people every week to replenish ranks diminished 336 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: by losses from arrested murder. That's apparently the task that 337 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: they're upwards. 338 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: But they pay really well. They don't have a problem 339 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: doing it. 340 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that they do, which is why I 341 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: think the Mexican government is somewhat tacit about this because 342 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: it's a big source of revenue towards their poor population. 343 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: What I heard im Bill Maligians report or another reporter 344 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: at the border, it's that you can clearly see Mexican 345 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: law enforcement and Mexican military standing on the Mexican side 346 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: of the border watching the tens of thousands of able 347 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: go over there. There's a standing there watching, so obviously 348 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: they're paid off to provide an ease of transport for 349 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: the drug cartels migrants, and every one of those migrants 350 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: paid for that passage. All the migrants you see coming 351 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: in on the on the trucks and the train cars, 352 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: they've all they're all paying customers. The cartels run the transportation, 353 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 2: and the law enforcement and the Mexican military is watching, 354 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: so they're paid. 355 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: It looks like they do drug trafficking, extortion, kidnapping, fuel theft. 356 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 3: That's a good one, and migrants smuggling. The last time 357 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: we had an estimate from this government, it was the 358 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: head of the DEA who told Congress in July that 359 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: the two biggest cartels in Mexico, which are Sinaloa and 360 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: Jalisco New Generation, have about forty five thousand members. So 361 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: that'd be a pretty good chunk of one hundred and 362 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 3: seventy five thousand estimate for one hundred and fifty groups. 363 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: And they have spaced out in one hundred countries. This 364 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: in one hundred. 365 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: Countries worldwide drug district bus network. This dwarfs whatever Italy 366 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: is produced with with with the Italian mafia. Oh, the 367 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: Italian mafia you have, you have huge mafias in Italy, 368 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: you have also in Russia. But this, this Mexican drug 369 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: cartel mafia, Holy moly, it is. It is a superpower, 370 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: and everyone's afraid to take it on. I wonder what 371 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: kind of weaponry they have, that's. 372 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: A good question. 373 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: We know there have been some encounters where they've had 374 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: some impressive weaponry. I mean, we would have to say 375 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: some they held the whole city for a while, even 376 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: had tanks and everything. Because because Ron DeSantis, one of 377 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 3: my favorite things about his campaign is he's saying, you know, 378 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: a first day, we're sending in the American military and 379 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: we're going to use drones, and we're going to drop 380 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: missiles on the drug factories and the command headquarters, and 381 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: we're going to take care of this. Now, he's the 382 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 3: only one I hear talking about it in such an 383 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: explicit way. I don't hear Trump even talking about it 384 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: this way, and certainly not not Biden or anybody else 385 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: in the Democratic Party. It's like, how could you not 386 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: send in the military to stop this. Now, this story says, well, 387 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: the legalization of cannabis in many US states has reduced 388 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: demand from marijuana from Mexico, although I've read stories that 389 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: they have their own grow operations in the US. Now 390 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: that's the cartel's response was, they'll just go there and 391 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: grow it, right they do. 392 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean markets contract and expand, but whatever whatever they 393 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: lose on the marijuana, and they are making up with 394 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: fentanyl and with meth and man those are really cheap 395 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: and marijuana takes time to grow, but fentomyl and meth. 396 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: And It mentions that the emergence of the synthetic opioid 397 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: fentanyl has trimmed the demand for Mexican produced heroin, which 398 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: we've talked about before. Fentanyl has just pumped terror and 399 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: right out as a big addictive evil, right number one drug. 400 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: But that's something else you don't have to grow. You 401 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: just get you get this unlimited supply of chemicals from China, 402 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: and then you have manufacturing costs at the labs, and 403 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: clearly it's incredibly profitable. 404 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: All right. 405 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: Well, in the continuing i'd say long time attempt to 406 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: figure out what could be the possible causes of autism, 407 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: we have a brand new study bringing in something I 408 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: hadn't heard before. Researchers at the University of Texas Health 409 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 3: Science Center at San Antonio found that pregnant or breastfeeding 410 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: women who consume diet soda or other foods and drinks 411 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: containing aspartain could experience higher rates of autism diagnoses in 412 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: their sons. 413 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: According to this. 414 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: Study, it's a correlation. They haven't proved that the diet 415 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 2: soda causes the autism, but they noticed there's a correlation 416 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: that among boys who've been diagnosed with autism, their mothers 417 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: were three times as likely to report drinks at least 418 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: one diet soda a day. 419 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: Or consuming an equivalent amount of five table top packets 420 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: of aspartame. So is it just aspertain When you say 421 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 3: diet sodas? Some of them are these different sweeteners I thought, I. 422 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: Put yeah, I get. I mean I'd never have diet so. 423 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: I think the most popular diet drinks are aspertain, a 424 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: diet coke and such. 425 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they say it's a major warning flag. 426 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: Now they're saying, now, it does not prove causality. It 427 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: does not prove that maternal intake of diet sodas and Aspertain, 428 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 3: specifically during pregnancy or nursing, increases of child's risk autism. 429 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: But they do believe it's a warning flag that people 430 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: ought to pay attention to it. And what's the big 431 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: deal if you're planning to become pregnant. Is actually recommending 432 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: that six months before you become pregnant you should stop 433 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: with the diet sodas. 434 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: Eighty seven percent of the autism cases in the study 435 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: were male, which is true. I've rarely run into girls 436 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: who are autistic most of the time. Almost all the time, 437 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: it's it's boys. 438 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: You know. 439 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: The thing is it sharply increased in recent decades, and there's. 440 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: Got to be a reason I mean I saw that. 441 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: I thought of that too, and I said, I think, 442 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: you know, diet SODA's really boomed really beginning in the 443 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: seventies eighties. I remember the warnings back in the sixties 444 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 3: who were tab the diet drink tab which had the 445 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: sacronis sacharin. Yeah, cyclemates too and cyclomates, right, yeah, but 446 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: I don't And again, when you look at the sales, 447 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: so I look at this every now and then of 448 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 3: soda is diet. Diet is not that big category of sales. 449 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: But I would say it was more common for people 450 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: to pick up a diet drink in the eighties nineties, 451 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 3: and then we started seeing these reports of autism. Well, 452 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: one of the researchers who wrote a book said, kids 453 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: with autism have an imbalance maybe of certain chemicals in 454 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: the brain nearer transmitter chemicals like glutamate and gamma amniobutric acid, 455 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: which is shown to be triggered by aspartame. He said, 456 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 3: this study confirms what was previously suspected that aspartain may 457 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: elevate the risk if consumed during pregnancy. The good news 458 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: is that avoiding diet sodas and other source of aspertain 459 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: during pregnancy might lower the risk of having a child 460 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: with autism. Now, one of the limitations of the study, 461 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: which you can understand, is that the data from the 462 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: mothers on what they were drinking and consuming was collected 463 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: years after their pregnancy and nursing experiences. They want to 464 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: do a study that's got more current pregnant women involved, 465 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: rather than trying to ask, did you remember did you 466 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: drink diet soda when you were pregnant ten years ago 467 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: with your son? 468 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Who now is you know someone? 469 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of diet studies are retroactive studies 470 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 3: where it's based on people's memories. 471 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: But you can't do a test like this, right, you can't. 472 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 2: You know, take fifty mothers feed them die soda every 473 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: day and fifty mothers no, and you know, and yet 474 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: you can't do that kind of test. 475 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: But you would think you would be able to find 476 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: pregnant women and then just try to have them write 477 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 3: down exactly what they're drinking and eating and then take 478 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: a look of years later and see, you know, what 479 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: the rate of autism was for their or for their 480 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: male son. 481 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: I've always thought it's something in modern life. I don't 482 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: know if it was you know, chemical pollution, uh, you know, 483 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 2: exposure to certain toxins. But there was something about modern 484 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: life that was causing the changes in a in a 485 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: child's brain when they're when they're no vaccines. Well, I mean, 486 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: I understood the vaccine argument, but they've never found any 487 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: research that proved it. But I understand why people would 488 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: think that. But but this, this the flaw of the 489 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: vaccine argument was this autism thing has I think has 490 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: to happen in development, has to happen while it's still 491 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: in the uterus, the baby, and certainly the aspartame and 492 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: the the diet soda is flowing through in the urdus. 493 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: Well, how hard would it be if you're. 494 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 3: Going to become pregnant just to give up the aspartame, 495 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: the diet sodas for the length of that the course 496 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: of your pregnancy. I don't think it's a big sacrifice. Hey, 497 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 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