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Speaker 1: M H. Welcome to episode to nine six. Parker McCullum

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Speaker 1: and Emma Clein. You're gonna love them both. We spend

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Speaker 1: about an hour with Parker, about half hour with Thema.

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Speaker 1: Just two great interviews to artists. I'm huge fans of

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Speaker 1: Let's get going now with the top five releases, and

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Speaker 1: I'm most excited about this week Kaylee Shore at number five.

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Speaker 1: She put out a new project with three songs. It's

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Speaker 1: called three by three Volume one The Chicks. It's all

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Speaker 1: Chicks covers. Here's her version of Cowboy take Me Away

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Speaker 1: said Kill Its Good. It's kind of like that alternative

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Speaker 1: Chicks five. At number four, Cody Johnson is covering a

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Speaker 1: Willie Nelson song with Willie Nelson. It's sad Songs and

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Speaker 1: Waltz's Sad Songs and Waltz's shoot It's good thing. I

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Speaker 1: love that song. That's a classic Willie Man. At number three,

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Speaker 1: Travis Denning released a new song called call It Country.

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Speaker 1: Here you Go, Keep only the red on that hell

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Speaker 1: Ready and me crank that. Charlie Jane's acting and shavvy speakers.

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Speaker 1: Caller down on this town. Ain't afraid to get money.

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Speaker 1: You call it what you want to. We just call

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Speaker 1: it country. He will be on this podcast next week.

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Speaker 1: I love that guy. At number two Emma Klein, who

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Speaker 1: you will hear later on. She has a new EP

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Speaker 1: called love Me Too. It's so good, She's so good.

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Speaker 1: Here's a new song called down Baby, I'm so afraid?

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Speaker 1: Did you keep me around till day? Banks? Will you

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Speaker 1: still feel the way I've been building up? A fortressful

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Speaker 1: so loud? How do I tell it? Don't don't, don't,

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Speaker 1: And then number one, and you wonder, how can you

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Speaker 1: have a guest on and not have them number one?

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Speaker 1: That's what everybody wonders right now. How do you have

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Speaker 1: am a client a number two? When you have a guest,

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Speaker 1: she's your guest. But number one is going to be

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Speaker 1: Eddie and I put out and he's my special guest

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Speaker 1: right now? Hi Eddie? Oh Hey, how's it going? Guys?

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Speaker 1: We put out? Eddie is joining us virtually from right

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Speaker 1: across the table from you. Yeah, can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: We put out a new EP called award winning EP.

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Speaker 1: We have three songs. We have Can't Say That in

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Speaker 1: the country song, which has already been out with John Party.

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Speaker 1: We have the Grandma's Song, which is recorded live when

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Speaker 1: we do a live comedy show. And then a song

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Speaker 1: called Fannie Pack. Do you have it from the beginning?

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Speaker 1: And I have the chorus of it. Okay, well on chorus,

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Speaker 1: what we have to right before the chorus? Okay, here

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Speaker 1: this is our song. It's all about wearing a fanny pack.

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Speaker 1: It's a Beastie Boys tribute song. Here we go walking

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Speaker 1: down the street all as I'm sitting in the floor

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Speaker 1: and snapped in the bag. You already know it's a

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Speaker 1: fanny peg. If you need it, you can literally you're

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Speaker 1: a nomena. If you need a fuel pis for your

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Speaker 1: panty gets my fanny pack a modern day Mary Poppins

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Speaker 1: wherever I Oh, you know I'm rocking that. Anyone back

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Speaker 1: to the Max right about my flock? Oh you know

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Speaker 1: he back to the Max right above jam? Yeah number one.

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Speaker 1: You just talked over the zipping solo. You get that,

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Speaker 1: Mikey know that's a zipper solo. That's Bobby on the

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Speaker 1: zippers with your inspiration on it. I did one take,

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Speaker 1: I walked and just felt it did Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: there you go. We know we're dumb guys, but we

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Speaker 1: love it. We do, and we're doing a few shows.

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Speaker 1: Was this year we're doing Bobby Fest in Kansas and

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Speaker 1: New Brambels, Texas. Uh, we will do a lot of shows,

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Speaker 1: but we hope you guys come out and watch. It

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Speaker 1: is a fun, fun, fun show. But I would imagine

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Speaker 1: if you don't know who we are and somebody brings

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Speaker 1: think when we play, like we played festivals a few

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Speaker 1: like uniforms and it's like the Wiggles at Wiggles. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but I think like five songs in or four songs,

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Speaker 1: I missed the old sound of the regimes. Hey, but

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Speaker 1: Um Just Maddie and Tay have a new song called

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Speaker 1: mood Ring. It's the honorable mention. Here here's a clip

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Speaker 1: of mood Ring. Dustin Lyncha Chris Lane have a song

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Speaker 1: called Tequila on a Boat. Albums out today. Oh you

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Speaker 1: can play Cliff if you want. Alan Jackson has a

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Speaker 1: new album today called where Have You Gone? J Cole

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Speaker 1: has the Off Season, Black Keys have Delta Cream and St.

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Speaker 1: Vincent have Daddy. She has Daddy's Home. A couple of

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Speaker 1: music notes. Apple shares a trailer for the new docuseries

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Speaker 1: N seventy one, The Year That Changed Everything. You'll get

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Speaker 1: a closer look at the most iconic artists and songs,

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Speaker 1: including from the Rolling Stones. Read Franklin, Bob Marley, Marvin

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Speaker 1: Gave the Who, John Lennon and lou Reid. Garth Brooks

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Speaker 1: is doing a big stadium show in Nebraska and Lincoln.

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Speaker 1: That'll be massive. It'll be the first music event at

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Speaker 1: shows in February of next year. Residency shows in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I think Carrie is doing that. In December of this year,

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Speaker 1: Marion Morris and Miranda Lambert the front runners for the

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Speaker 1: CMT Awards. And there you go, enjoy. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be great. You're gonna love both of these artists, Parker

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Speaker 1: McCollum and Emma Klein. Support them if you can. Parker's

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Speaker 1: killing it. Emma is on the verge of it. If

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Speaker 1: you can support her by streaming her music, if you

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Speaker 1: like it, sharing her stuff. I mean, that's what it's

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Speaker 1: all about, t new artists. And away we go with

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Speaker 1: Bobby casting number two ninety six here with Parker McCollum,

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Speaker 1: which you're over at the house and I walked in

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Speaker 1: and is that your truck? Sir? Why is it? Because

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Speaker 1: you don't live here? I do know breaking news. I

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Speaker 1: just bought a house, um like five miles from here

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Speaker 1: lot of Well that's breaking news to me. I didn't

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Speaker 1: CMT did a lull kind of MTV cribs kind of

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Speaker 1: They showed the inside of it, but it was weird

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Speaker 1: because it's there was That was like two days after

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Speaker 1: third time I got robbed, I was like, you know

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Speaker 1: what is dude? That holly ride? My girlfriend walked outside.

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Speaker 1: I'm out the house. That's cool. Congratulations, thank you man.

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Speaker 1: Is that the first place that you've bought or did

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Speaker 1: you have a that's my first? That is my first

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Speaker 1: owning of any kind of real estate. That's great. Like,

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Speaker 1: are you and you live pretty close to here? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Not far away, just down well I guess I won't

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Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, yeah, don't just down that was down

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Speaker 1: need it bad. I just saw a meme that was like,

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Speaker 1: and it said this is me after hitting a smooth

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Speaker 1: city be going pretty good for you. You know we're

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Speaker 1: going good. I was talking to somebody about you. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: is Dirk's And he said why. I said, because he's

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Speaker 1: So that's good on you and for people that don't know,

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Speaker 1: so I think he kind of saw me just sort

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00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 1: of not doing anything. But if I think he thought

427
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 1: I was talented, and he's my brother's a phenomenal songwriter,

428
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 1: so he's he's very good judge of that and UM,

429
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 1: and he remember him saying to me one night, He's like, dude,

430
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,160
Speaker 1: just go book thirty shows and thirty days and see

431
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 1: if you can ever quit. He's like, play those and

432
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 1: see if you ever stop. I didn't get thirty and

433
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: thirty days, but I ended up playing like twelve shows

434
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: that month, and I've been playing ever since. So, as

435
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: you're performing and you have this record, are you selling

436
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 1: it at the table? How are you? How are you?

437
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 1: What are you doing with that record? I had? UM,

438
00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 1: I had paid a guy to print I want to say,

439
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 1: like two fifty copies, maybe three copies, And I just

440
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 1: always kept with me and I would just hand them

441
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: out every where I went, Like, do you know Steamboat

442
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 1: Music Festival. I used to go up there and and

443
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,119
Speaker 1: as a fan, and my buddy's parents would actually take

444
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 1: him and eye. They're big music fans, and they paid

445
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 1: for me to go one year, and I walked around

446
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 1: the lobby handing out that each So you're just handing

447
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: them out, you're selling them. You were like, anybody listening

448
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: to this, just take a listen and uh. And then

449
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: right before COVID we headlined the whole festival closed it out.

450
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a cool little story, but it

451
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 1: was very I was I'm the luckiest human in my

452
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: mind to ever live, Like I mean, it's exactly how

453
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: I thought and dreamed about it happening when I was seventeen.

454
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 1: Is besides COVID clearly, which is probably for everybody. Exactly

455
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: how I dreamed about it and thought it and hoped

456
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 1: it would happen and wanted it to happen when I

457
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 1: was seventeen is exactly how it's gone. So who I

458
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 1: saw you and said, dang, I would like to invest

459
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: my brain power, where my money, my time into making

460
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 1: this person a better artists Like who was the first

461
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: person to take a chance on you. Corby Shaw was

462
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: really the first person to take a chance saw me,

463
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 1: but I mean I would and took out the money.

464
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: He just thought I was good when to produce my record,

465
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: thought it was worth his time. The first person to

466
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: really go you got it, I can help you was

467
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 1: Randy Rogers from the Randy Rodgers Man And where did

468
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: you meet Randy? I was first of four opening for

469
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: him and two other bands. Uh in Corpus Christie. One

470
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: day we had a van we name a trailer. Then

471
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: we took out the backseat and all the gear was

472
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: in the back of the van. Um and I listened.

473
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: I had been obsessed with them a whole life, you know.

474
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: He was like royalty down there to me, and uh,

475
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,479
Speaker 1: we're opening for him. We just pulled up by real

476
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: We pulled up in the van and look at my

477
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: tour manager at the time, Jake Murphy, and I was like,

478
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 1: all right, let's get out and go talk. We've been

479
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: playing quite a few shows at that point, just nothing.

480
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 1: I mean nothing, no GHO shows, terrible stuff and um,

481
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: but we were touring a lot. I remember look at

482
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: him and I was like, let's go talk to a

483
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 1: bunch of people who don't want to talk to us.

484
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 1: We opened the van, Randy Rogers comes walking up. He's

485
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: got on Gucci shades fifty and fifty had um you know,

486
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: van shoes, George's gold chain rolling on his wrist. Like,

487
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: not what you think Crandy Rogers is gonna walk up

488
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: and he looks so g um. I remember he walked

489
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: up and he was like, you guys, have anything, let

490
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: me know. I was like, that's cool. He's a headliner

491
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: to come in, you know, at least holler at us.

492
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: And then he said I actually we went and played

493
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: our show like three thirty in the afternoon. I looked

494
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: over on the side of the stage and he was

495
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: he watched our whole set. Um. And then five hours

496
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: later he plays his show at ten o'clock at night

497
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: and I was staying inside stage for his show and

498
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 1: he walked off and I've never been on with tour

499
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: bus and he's like, let's go to bus. But as

500
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: he walked off stage, um, And we went to the

501
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: bus and went to the back lound and he just

502
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: lounge and he sat down and he was like, look,

503
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: I've been doing from research on dude. I'd only had

504
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: that one record, the Limestone Kid out and he's like,

505
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: this record is phenomenal. Um, He's like, you can be

506
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: a star. That night he was like you could you

507
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: have star power, you could be a star. I just

508
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: want to help you avoid some of the mistakes I made.

509
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 1: I would love to help you get there. I don't

510
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: want anything from you. I just want to help. Um,

511
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: So go home and think about it if that's something

512
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: you want to do. And uh, I actually ended up.

513
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: I was trying to call my mom, trying to call

514
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: my dad, trying to call my brother. Everybody's asleep, and

515
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: I was freaking out, and I was like ready Rodgers

516
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: once he had just started management company and he didn't

517
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: really have any but I think he had. He was

518
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: running doing some stuff with Bruce Robinson at the time,

519
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: and maybe someone else. UM what they needed like a

520
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: kind of a main focus and right place, right time

521
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I guess what he uh Man, he

522
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: took time out of his life to come to Nashville

523
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: and go into Universal Records and Big Machine, and so

524
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: he came and did with you. He had a condo

525
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: up here still and he let me come up here

526
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: and stay in his conda for free and write and

527
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: got me a publishing deal, walked into every major label

528
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: in town and said, if you're passing this kid, you're

529
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: passing on the next George Straight, which over hyping it,

530
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: I would say, quite quite a bit. He's setting me

531
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,239
Speaker 1: up to fail. But um, just for he's a family man.

532
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: He has a wife and kids, and he's got a

533
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: whole life side of touring, and he plays a hundred

534
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: fifty shows a year and he would take time to

535
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: fly up here on a weekly basis with me and

536
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: write and get me in rooms and go in there

537
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: and say crazy outlandish things like that to major labels,

538
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: and um, got me a record deal, publishing deal. Um,

539
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: and they just I call him Dad for a reason.

540
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: People always asked why I call him Dad. So when

541
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: you started to do the tour of a Parker and

542
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: then you have a record, you're a big fancy record label,

543
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: how did that go for you? It was the first

544
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: one easy? Or was it weird? How many did you

545
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: go through until you settled on where you are now? Um,

546
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: we met with all the majors and then I think

547
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: we met with Big Big Loud as well. Um, and

548
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: kind of before that, a lot of smaller labels had

549
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: been kind of coming to Austin and wine and dine

550
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: and doing that kind of thing where they take you

551
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: out and they do the whole thing, which is really cool,

552
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: and it's not right. I had never had any record label,

553
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, kind of holler at at any capacity. Um.

554
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: And so once the majors really came out, and we're like,

555
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: and once one of them does, it's kind of like

556
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: they all come calling. It's kind of like a bidding war.

557
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: Even if they like you or not. I think they

558
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: just don't want to miss out more and they don't

559
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: want to be told no, which I completely understand that. UM.

560
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: But I remember sitting there in Zo members of it too.

561
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean I just, you know, you have every major

562
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: label and country music sitting there going you know what,

563
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: And and we already had a huge touring base and

564
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: and generated quite a bit of revenue touring, so I

565
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of had all the leverage was on our side.

566
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: We kind of had were in the driver's seat. Um.

567
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: And they offered a bunch of money up front and

568
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I said, look, I don't want

569
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: your money. I said I want creative control. And I

570
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: was like, I just want to be able. My whole

571
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: dream was to be on a major label with creative

572
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: control and be able to do what I want to do.

573
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, cool, that's it. You know. I

574
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: don't think you'll ever lose money. We already make you

575
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: enough money as we tour. Um. But I mean I

576
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: bet on me because I'll bet on myself for sure,

577
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: and you know it. Probably I don't know how it

578
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: came off at the time, but I guess it worked

579
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: because they all made great offers and and I was

580
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: able to counter and get the deal that I'm wanted.

581
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: So you get to the side. So at what point

582
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: do you start preparing your major we'll call it major

583
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: label debut? Like, do you start immediately? Did you already

584
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: have that the song that you led with? Like I

585
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: did not? I had UM. Well, I guess Randy Randy

586
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Montana was like my first co write in town, first

587
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: real co righte and um, and I wanted to go in.

588
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: I'd never really co written before besides with my older brother,

589
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to come in and have like

590
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: a good idea. So I had found this video of

591
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: me like singing this song it is What does that

592
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: say about me? I could love somebody like You was

593
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: the original line, and it was the melody that pretty

594
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: Hard is. And I was like, man, how do I

595
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: forget about that? I'm gonna take that in tomorrow. And

596
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: so we ended up wrighting that song and I think

597
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: I signed my deal not just a few months after that. Um,

598
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: I think that's the right timeline and um. And so

599
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: when I signed a deal and I was like, these

600
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: are the songs I have and they were like, that's

601
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: the one. So it was immediate they knew you knew

602
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: all good, but it didn't. We were cut it and

603
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: then it didn't. I don't know if it can't probably

604
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: didn't come out for close to a year. Yeah, we

605
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: were just kind of sitting. Did that process feel like

606
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: it was taking forever? Yeah? I was really um, which

607
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean I told myself from the beginning. I was like,

608
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: don't go in here, and and it's really easy to Yeah,

609
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, anything that's worth working really hard for, I mean,

610
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: you know it probably just as well as anybody, like,

611
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: as soon as it's it starts, something's gonna go wrong,

612
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: something's gonna be what someone promised whatever. So I just

613
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: kind of kept that in mind and I was like, man,

614
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: just you signed a deal. I was like, just trust

615
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: the process. It was like, these people have done it.

616
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: You know, you're the one millionth artists that they've promoted

617
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: him put on the big stage. And I was like,

618
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: and he was. He talked me through a lot of that.

619
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's done. He's been through it a hundred times.

620
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: What you do during the whole time that we're waiting,

621
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: we're just writing, writing, And I was coming up here

622
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: and writing. I'd have my publishing deal for a year

623
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: at that point, so I was writing a lot. Um,

624
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: but I was torn. We're still playing a hundred fifty

625
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: shows a year, um. So I was as busy as

626
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: I could be. I mean I when I say I

627
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: wasn't home more than two days at a time for

628
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: four years, That's has no exaggeration. I would literally would

629
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: get off the bus and Austin on Sunday, take the

630
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: last Southwest flight out on Sunday evening to Austin, I

631
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: mean to Nashville right and go to meetings Monday Tuesday

632
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Wednesday and fly right back Wednesday night for like three years.

633
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: When you stopped playing shows this last year, did you

634
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: miss it immediately or we're like, day, I can kind

635
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 1: of ex hell for a second before I get back

636
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: at it. It's kind of it's it's this, this is

637
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: a true story to like two weeks before we played

638
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: our last show, before I had even heard of COVID

639
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: or Corona or whatever it was called. We called a

640
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: corona at that time. Um. I remember saying to the guys,

641
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I wish we could just have

642
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: like thirty because we were beat at that time. We

643
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: just done those shows with Miranda. It was life was crazy,

644
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: super fast, and I was like, I wish we could

645
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: have thirty days off and then just and so when started.

646
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: And I remember I called Enzo that day and he's like,

647
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: just go home, be like a week or two. We'll

648
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: be right back to it. We'll figure all this out.

649
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, two weeks off, beautiful, I'm not to

650
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: go home and do absolutely nothing. Um. And then it

651
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: was three d and sixty five days later exactly that

652
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: we played our next regular show. So you're the reason

653
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: COVID happened. We're wishing for it. You can put all

654
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: that on me. Yeah, what's I've seen a bunch of yours,

655
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of clips of your shows. People are posting them. Um,

656
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm also a stalker. But what is a Parker McCall

657
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: him show? What? What? What? What's the deal? Why do

658
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: people love it so much? What do you do that

659
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: people are just like, this is the greatest live show man?

660
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I tell people all the time when

661
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I meet him, I'm like, I'm I wish I was cooler.

662
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm so underwhelming. Um, I don't know. I

663
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: think UM. I always say, UM, it doesn't matter what

664
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: genre or who the person is, male, female, whatever, Um,

665
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: country doesn't matter. When someone opens her mouth to sing

666
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: a song, instant you either buy it or you don't. Right,

667
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: you'd agree with that, yes, Like instantly you're like as

668
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: a performer, music or anything else, either immediately I'm either

669
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm either like okay, yes you have my attention or um.

670
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: And so I think for the people that follow me

671
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: and followed me for a long time, or new fans

672
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: or old fans whatever, I think they believe it, and

673
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: I think they buy it when I sing those songs

674
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: that I write, and I think it's as simple as that.

675
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: And so when they come to the show Man, the

676
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: energy is it blows my mind. Sometimes I'm in the

677
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: middle of a song and I forget words because I'm

678
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: thinking to myself in the world, why do they why

679
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: do they like us so much? You know, so, you're

680
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: also a much better singer then I think I expected

681
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: you to be. I think I've told just before too.

682
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: And this isn't an insult in anyway, But you can play.

683
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: You're good looking dude, like you should be a packet.

684
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: You almost should be what the record label went and

685
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: found and made it and just said, hey, well, well

686
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: don't worry about that, we'll mix them in the studio.

687
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 1: He'll sound good because he's got everything else. But you all,

688
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: you're also like a way better singer than you should be.

689
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Meaning if you were ugly, you'd still be good. I

690
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 1: appreciate that. That's the best compliment you could possibly get

691
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: from me. If you were an ugly man, you would

692
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: still be a good artist. Well, thank you. I would

693
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: like to if you could just come to my house

694
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: now that we're kind of sort of neighbors and just

695
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: tell me that every day to start the day. I'm

696
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: probably good. What happened recently I was watching a clip

697
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: I think a guy through a drink on a girl,

698
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: and you're in the crowd. Did you see that or

699
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: did someone you know? It was like, I mean, the

700
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: crowds three ft from the front of the stage, and

701
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: it was we we've gone on stage, and we came

702
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: on to do our encore, UM, and they were losing it,

703
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: wanted us to do this encore and and and we

704
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: haven't planned out for the show in case they ever

705
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: want one. So we go out and we get about.

706
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: I've never stopped the show all the time and I've

707
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: been doing I've never stopped the show in the middle

708
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: of a song ever. Usually I just keep singing and

709
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: watch him just beat the hell out of each other

710
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: and are all get done and say, you guys can

711
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: fight all you want, but if you lose, you have

712
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: to leave. UM and UM. But usually it's a guy

713
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: finding a guy or a girl finding a girl, which

714
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: is a little more tolerable. UM. And so it was

715
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: like second row, we're right to start the right at

716
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: the start of the encore, and and I just so

717
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: happened to look and I see this guy just shoved

718
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: this girl. I mean, this dude's with a cowboy had

719
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: it on. It's probably six six. I'm sure he's probably

720
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: about six three six four, but cowboy had he looked

721
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: very big, and the girl was little bitty, and he

722
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: just shoves her like that, like three or four ft

723
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: and she looks at me when he shoves her. And

724
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: he's got a tall boy Miller light that he just

725
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: cracked up in fresh beer and just dumps it on

726
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: her head and she just freezes, and we're playing the

727
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: whole time, the whole song is going, I'm singing the

728
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: whole time, and I'm just watching this like no way. Um.

729
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: And So it had been a guy on a guy

730
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: or growing a girl whatever, that's a little more tolerable.

731
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: But to do that to a lady, you know how

732
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: I was raised when I grew up, that's just absolute.

733
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: You know, you get I don't know what you can

734
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: say one you get your ask for that, um. Which

735
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised that the dudes didn't just

736
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: start laying in to him for doing it, um. And

737
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: the security was on it like that, but I just

738
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: had to. I stopped the show out the song. I

739
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: was like, dude, the guy's gotta get out of here,

740
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: like it's absolutely unacceptable. But the girls, she was like

741
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: the fact that I did that she was soaked in beer.

742
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's at the time of her life. Do

743
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: you get any crap from any of your music friends

744
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: in Texas for moving to Nashville? Everybody loves it? Is

745
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: that because I feel like that stage is kind of

746
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: over as well. I mean, Dodd I said, I made

747
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: it very clear from the start, and I was like,

748
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: I grew up idolizing George Strait. You know, he has

749
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 1: sixty number one probably I think two or three more

750
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: than that, maybe six two six three, something like that.

751
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: Now he's the epitome of of what I think anybody

752
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: should aspire to be in country music. Um. And he

753
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: sold out a T and T Stadium back to back

754
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: nights residency in Vegas, Madison Square, Girl, you name it,

755
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: You're not. He's just there's nothing he hasn't done in

756
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: the business. Um, he's a king. And so that was

757
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: always I was like, man, just you're never gonna get

758
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I'll never get to that level, but try to, you know,

759
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: and maybe you get halfway there. That's pretty damn good. Um.

760
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: And so I always made it really clear that was

761
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: my goal. Um, But it was always my goal to

762
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: do it. I'm really I was just raised on songwriters.

763
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: UM really really talented, you know on his songwriting, and

764
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: so the goal was always to go to that level

765
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: and beyond country radio without sounding like you know, everything

766
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: else that is coming out on country radio. And there's

767
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: a dude, I say that all the time, people like, whoa,

768
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: We'll be careful. Majority of that stuff I really enjoy.

769
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I really like it, do not matter what genre is

770
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: their songs. I don't like UM, but I like the

771
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: majority of stuff on country radio. I just think that

772
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: there's like a there's a there's a gap in a

773
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: space for someone that's younger, like Chris Stapleton's phenomenal. He's

774
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: an anomaly, right, like as talented as a human being

775
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: could be, but he's a little older. There's no like

776
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: young kids younger generation that are super like hung up

777
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: on songwriting that are on commercial radio country radio. And

778
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: I just was like, maybe I could do that. So

779
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm really super competitive and it's more of less like

780
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: a mental challenge for me. I was like, maybe I

781
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: can do that, Maybe I can pull it off. Did

782
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: your brother help teach you how to write songs? Like? Where?

783
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: How you say you started writing them early? How did

784
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: you start to learn? Man? He you know what. I actually, no,

785
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: he would never teach me anything. He would always um,

786
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: he would always teld me to learn on my own.

787
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: But I just you know, he he introduced me to

788
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: songwriters at a really young age, Like when I was twelve,

789
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: he gave me like a Traveling Wilberries album for Christmas. Um,

790
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: give me a Town's record for Christmas one year when

791
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: I was when I was really young, a Rodney Crowd record. Um.

792
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: You know James that Mercury, Robert o'kin just goes on

793
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: and on and on, Chris Knight and Slave Cleaves and um,

794
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: Steve Earle and and he just this is all we

795
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: listened to. Men listen to anything else. Um. And I

796
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: just connected with it at a really really young age,

797
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: and I really understood good. Um. I just really related

798
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: to where those guys wrote those songs from. I think, um,

799
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: and I feel like I write my songs from the

800
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: same place. Um. And so it was just it was

801
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: the only thing in my life that I've ever done

802
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: that I really was like I didn't feel bad or

803
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: like I was being cocky when I was like, I

804
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: can do this. You know, like sometimes people oversell themselves

805
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, probably more often than not. And I

806
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: never felt like I was doing that with songwriting. I

807
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: was like, I can do this, um and I just

808
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: it just it felt like I don't know, You're not

809
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: like you don't pick the game. The game picks you.

810
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: You don't choose to whatever to the game, the game

811
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: chooses you. That was kind of what it was for songwriting.

812
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: It was like I couldn't you know. But at the

813
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: same time, had my brother been ice skating, I would

814
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: be ice skating. Is your brother in music? Now? What? What?

815
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: What is he doing? Where is he's doing a solo

816
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: thing in Texas right now? He actually cutting a record

817
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: right now, Tyler McCollum. And is there any listen? I

818
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: know there's love? Is he like, dang, dude, you're killing it?

819
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: And no, man, I think he's so stoked for me. Yeah,

820
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: I think because he knew when I remember when he

821
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: would come home from college, um and and every time

822
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: we knew he was coming home and I was in

823
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: like junior higher high school, I would always try to

824
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: have like a new song I had written to show him,

825
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: and I had never nothing was ever good, and he

826
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: was always just like it sucks all the time. He

827
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: hadn't he was no shame and uh And I had

828
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: written a song Permanent Headphones and I was like a

829
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: freshman in high school and came home and I played

830
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: it for him and he was like, you wrote that

831
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: on your own. He's like, you're gonna He's like, you're

832
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna do this for a long time. I remember him

833
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: telling me that when I was really young. Um, and

834
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: so I think now because he's kind of the one

835
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: that's like to you know, I told you all he

836
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: would do it. So the value of having someone like

837
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: your brother, because I have a couple of those in

838
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: my life too, where it's hard to trust, especially when

839
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: you start to get just an inch of success, because

840
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: you have a lot of yes people around you are

841
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people are just like, oh, you're still good,

842
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: You're so good. But you can really trust the people

843
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: they can tell you when you're not good, because yeah,

844
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: you know that your brother, for example, when he does

845
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: tell you something's good, you you you believe it because

846
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: of all the times he told you you know, this

847
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: just isn't quite good enough. I mean he is that.

848
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: He is a phenomenal songwriter. I try to get him

849
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: all the time, Like dude moved to Nashville. Let me

850
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: get you a publishing deal. I'm like, you'd be like

851
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: millions writing songs, dude, but he it's just not. He's

852
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: like as authentic and as honest in those writing those songs.

853
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: And I think he wants to sell a lot of

854
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: tickets and he wants to be very successful doing it. Um.

855
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: But I don't think he necessarily was as hungry to be, like,

856
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: you know, on that level as I was like when

857
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: I want from time I was sixteen years old, I

858
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: was like, it's either a one like top level or fail.

859
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily that way for him. I

860
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: want to play a little bit of to be loved

861
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: by you. It is the current single whs quiet when

862
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I know you're kid, maybe the kid tell me the truth?

863
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: What there was a man? So he wrote that with

864
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Red Red Akins. That's pretty cool. Thank you man. I mean,

865
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: I love rat Oh, dude. He's a just as a kid,

866
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: you're you know, obviously younger than I am. But as

867
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: a kid, WT was on the radio all the time

868
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, Like I was a fan

869
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: of him as an artist, and now you know, getting

870
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: to know him personally, and I just I think he

871
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: was playing. We're playing the operat together and I was

872
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: doing a comedy after he was playing. But right before

873
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: he went out there, he pulled the biggest dip out

874
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: of his mouth, will through it in the cup and

875
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: walked right on stage. I was like, that's disgusting. It awesome,

876
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: and that's the most red Akins thing I've ever ever

877
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: seen in my life. Red Man's silver label. Every time

878
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: we write together, we don't mind me saying this, sorry,

879
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: If you do, he will choot and entire I've seen

880
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: him go through more than one an entire bag of

881
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: red Man Silver label and we're there for three hours.

882
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: You seem how big about it. It's it's disgusting and

883
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: I was like, that's disgusting, but I'm glad I got

884
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: to see it. Like I would expect nothing less from

885
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: rhet when you write this song with him, who, by

886
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: the way, as an artist fantastic, but as a songwriter

887
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: even better, like throughout his career, who he gets both

888
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: sides of it. Whenever you write this song, was this

889
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: one of those who you're like, yeah, this is special,

890
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: or what did it become special after you know you

891
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: cut it? Or like what process was this song special. Man,

892
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: none of them are really special to me when I

893
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: write them. And I think it's because I get so

894
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: like when I come up with this melody that I'm

895
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: obsessed with or this idea or whatever. Um, I get

896
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: so excited then and then I write it and I'm like, oh,

897
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: it's super cool, and then I just forget about it,

898
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: like I don't even think twice about it. Um. But this,

899
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: I had actually written the first verse in a chorus

900
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: on the back of the bus. Um at like eleven

901
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. We were going on the road.

902
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: We've just gotten on the bus, excuse me, and that

903
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: we just got on the bus and I was in

904
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: the back lounge and and uh, I wrote it down.

905
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: I'd actually sat out loud. Me and Hallie Ray were

906
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: arguing at the time, having a little whatever and um,

907
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: and I set out loud. I was like, man, what

908
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: does it mean have to do to be loved by

909
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: that girl? And he kind of perked up. He's like, hey,

910
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: you might want to write that down, and so I

911
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: just I mean, in fifteen minutes, I went back and

912
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: I wrote the first first in the chorus, and then

913
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: the same thing. I just forgot about it. I didn't

914
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: even think about it. And then I had to write

915
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: with Rhet and when me and when when Rehet and

916
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: I write, it's not like any other code, right, Like

917
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: we'll go sit for the first hour. You know, he's

918
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: having a chew. I'll probably bump some off him a

919
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: lot of the time. And we just talked about like

920
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: turkey hunting or deer hunting for an hour, or like

921
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: he's so many pictures all the deary shot or out

922
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: is one of his farms here in Nashville. And then

923
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: he'll be like, hey, Stull, do you have anything? And

924
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: that day I had it was like a few days

925
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: after I had written that, and uh, or maybe a

926
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and and I was like, dude, I

927
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: have this. And he was just like all right, we'll

928
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: finish it. And I was like, okay, whatever. And then

929
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: and he was on his phone and I could be like,

930
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: what do you think about this? And he'd be like, yeah,

931
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: that's how about this? Back? All right? What about this?

932
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: How about this? For the second verse? And uh? And

933
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: it was really slow. It was not like this big

934
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: rock and roll kind of rolling stones feel thing that

935
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: it is now. Um, And we did a little work

936
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: tape and I left and then we went going to

937
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: the studio like three months later, and I was like, man,

938
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: I remember talking to my producer John Randall. I was like,

939
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: this song could be this and most of the time

940
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: I'm wrong in the studio, I've learned that. I learned

941
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: that very early on. Most of the time I'm wrong,

942
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: and but every now and then I'm like, dude, just

943
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: give this a shot. And uh. We recorded it, and

944
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: then Rhet called me like probably two months after that,

945
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: someone had sent him a rough mix and he was like,

946
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: did we write that together? And I was like, yeah,

947
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: I remember we of ship that day at your management

948
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: or his thing, it's his publishing office that he has,

949
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: and he was like, dude, that's insane. And I was like, dude,

950
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: the songs, I was like, And I'm never hyped on

951
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: my own stuff. I never think very much of it.

952
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: I get over it very quickly. I'm onto the next

953
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: thing very quickly. And that was the like probably one

954
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: of two ever that I've been like, Yeah, this is

955
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: dope for sure, and probably more so because he thought so,

956
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: your EP six songs. It's out now, six songs, right,

957
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: Hollywood gold If five of them you wrote one of

958
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: them is a Stapleton cut. Um, how did you get

959
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: that song? Man? I that was my first outside cut

960
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: on Universal. Um, that's the only song I've ever cut

961
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: that I didn't write on Universal. And Uh. I was

962
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: driving to the ranch one day. I was in my truck, UM,

963
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: and I got a text message from Brian Wright at

964
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: the label and it was just a um, you know,

965
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: like an audio clip on a text and uh, they

966
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: just said Stapleton slash Anderson and I'm like, he's on

967
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: He's on Universal as well, staple to and so I

968
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, maybe this is one of the perks

969
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: of like being on the same label. You get to

970
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: listen to his record before it comes out. Well, listen

971
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: to the song. And I called Brian. I'm like, yo,

972
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: that's insane, Like what an incredible song. And he's like, yeah,

973
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: it'st able to never cut it. I was like, what

974
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: do he means? Like, hey, he wrote it was like

975
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: two thousand six or something or whenever he wrote a

976
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: long time ago, and and I was like, he's like,

977
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: do you think you would want to cut it? And

978
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I assume it to my dad

979
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: And he was like that's the best song you've ever written.

980
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't write that. I was like,

981
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: I was like, but I am gonna sing it, and uh,

982
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: I just I was like instantly, I just connected. They

983
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: sent me out, They send me outside songs all the time.

984
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: That's the only one I've ever been like, I'm cutting

985
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: that song when I because I know you're right all

986
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: your stuff. When I saw I guess when the record

987
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: came out, I was like, da, you must have really

988
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: loved that song. If he's gonna cut something he didn't write,

989
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: it was just I mean, dudu. And it's been like

990
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: in our show whenever that like all the lights go

991
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: down and Charlie my keys player starts playing that piano

992
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: part the intro and they just lose sit dude, I

993
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: mean they lose it. And that's the That's the first

994
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: song I had never gone no guitar on stage, like

995
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: wireless Mike. I can't. And so looking back now when

996
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: I was first doing it, like a year ago, it

997
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: is unbelievably awful with me without a guitar in my hands.

998
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: But now I've kind of really come into it and

999
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: and I think I'm a little better at it. Hopefully. Um,

1000
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: but it's so cool. I mean, go out there and

1001
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: and I'm literally in the crowd singing that song. It's

1002
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: really cool. Um. You' that can be able to do

1003
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: that for much longer. You're just know. I mean that

1004
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: as you grow and you become a bigger star, people

1005
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: want to touch. It just becomes a safety thing. Urban

1006
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: can still do it, but he has security go out

1007
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: with him and surround him where you're really close. But

1008
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the same thing when people are gonna

1009
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: be grabbing you and you're not gonna able to sing

1010
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: because they're literally physically pulling on you. It sounds like

1011
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: a good problems. It's the best problem, yeah, I mean

1012
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: the best way. You're not gonna be able to do

1013
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: that much longer. You could do like Dustin Lynch who

1014
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: gets in a boat and they carry him across. But

1015
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a great problem to not be

1016
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: able to go out without people attacking you in a

1017
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: loving way. Also, don't stage die front word. I did

1018
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: that once on your stomach. I didn't realize if they

1019
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: get you, well, they punched me in the balls about

1020
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: ten times. I didn't think about well, I don't know

1021
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: they it didn't matter if they squeezed or not. They

1022
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: were trying to I don't think anyone do it to

1023
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: me on purpose. For you, I see, I get it

1024
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: right for me. I think they were probably trying to

1025
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: avoid it and still couldn't help it. I'm not I mean,

1026
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: I I really, I'm so I steal from George Straight

1027
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: and his stage presence all the time and the fact

1028
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: that he's never had He's never It's like I can't

1029
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: find one video of him taking one step on stage,

1030
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: like he's stationary the whole night and it's just the King.

1031
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: And so I've always really kind of kept that in

1032
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: the back of my mind. And so that's kind of

1033
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: what the wireless mic thing it's like. Now that I

1034
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: do it. I do it for two songs and and

1035
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: I kind of go out there and and it's I

1036
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: don't know if I it's not that I feel naked,

1037
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: but it's almost like in the back of my mind,

1038
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: like I shouldn't be doing this, But I've kind of

1039
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: really grown to enjoy it because like not having to

1040
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: play guitar and sing at the same time, it's really easy.

1041
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: It's really nice to just sing um. So I don't

1042
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: know it's I'm it's kind of like a constant complex

1043
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: I have with myself and going out there and doing it.

1044
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: Was it a ladder step to sell out Billy Bob's, Yeah,

1045
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean listening to Randy Rogers live at

1046
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: Billy Bob's crossing a rag, We'd live at Billy Bobbs.

1047
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: Do only the Rue live at Billy Bob's, Like those

1048
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: are records I when I was in like fifth grade, Dude,

1049
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: I would put them in, put the CD in my

1050
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: boom box and uh in my room, and I would

1051
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: just I was just obsessed with them. Um. And so

1052
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: when we got we first time we were played that

1053
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: we played on the honky Tonk stage, which is like

1054
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: the small stage up front, and we did we did

1055
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: like two thousand people showed up, which was a huge

1056
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: deal for us. I mean that was humongous for us.

1057
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: And they paid us like ten grand dude, and I

1058
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: was like in cash, and I was like, I was like, dude,

1059
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: we can retire, like we're good. Um. And so we

1060
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: went back one more time and played the main stage

1061
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: and we didn't sell it out. And then we went

1062
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: and played the main stage again and sold it out

1063
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: in advance and and that was like to have your

1064
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: handprints on the wall and all that. If you grew

1065
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: up in Texas idolizing Texas singer songwriters, that's a big

1066
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: deal for you. I would think so too, especially being

1067
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: a Texas kid, right, and I was a Texas transplant,

1068
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: but I definitely had that in me. And I was like, man,

1069
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: if you go and sell it, and I think you

1070
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: sold bill as a twice, right, that's that's a And

1071
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: later on in life, as you sell out bigger and

1072
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: bigger places, that will still be a freaking cool thing

1073
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, it's it was. It was just

1074
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: something like it was kind of like playing the opera.

1075
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's something that it's always kind of in

1076
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: the back of your mind, but you one you don't

1077
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: know if it will ever happen, and too you feel

1078
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: like it's a hundred years away, and then all of

1079
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, it happens and you're like, holy cow dude,

1080
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: the gold chain cowboy. So what it is? GCC, remember

1081
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: you I clicked I voted for that one on Twitter.

1082
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, And I was like, it can't

1083
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: be any of these other choices that you've picked, like

1084
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: that was the legit best title for the next project.

1085
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Where are we on that? Man? We just is that? Yeah?

1086
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: We just finished it yesterday. Congratulations, all tracking, all vocal,

1087
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: everything's done. Although I finished the sung the last two songs,

1088
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: same last songs yesterday and the Light of Day for

1089
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: one of those tracks. Do we know when? Um, we

1090
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: have a song coming out this month, so you don't

1091
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: have to tell me. I'm not. I always want to

1092
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: tell there. I'm always getting text from Enzo or Matthew

1093
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: or the label and they're like the lead that, the

1094
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: lead that, um, because I always want to tell everybody

1095
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: because I mean, do the message of me at every

1096
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: day by the hundreds saying we went more music, like

1097
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, like three weeks after Hollywood Gold came out,

1098
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, cool, when's the next one? And I'm like, well,

1099
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: do you be on a major label? Probably five years? Um? Now,

1100
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but but it's uh, I think so.

1101
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: I think the record comes out in July as of

1102
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: right now. Um, and so we're kind of really what

1103
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: we're trying to decide right now is whether it's gonna

1104
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: be another six song EP or whether it's gonna be

1105
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: the full album because I've got about I don't know,

1106
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: fourteen songs, maybe sixteen songs totally ready to rock and roll.

1107
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: What's your gut tell you to do? I don't know,

1108
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: And and my thing is kind of like and you know,

1109
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what it is nowadays, um, you know,

1110
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: whether it's your album or like a tragic event, like

1111
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: the public is over it in like forty eight hours.

1112
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: They're onto the next thing. Um. And So I think

1113
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the kind of strategy and a lot

1114
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: of the thought process behind releasing music nowadays is you know,

1115
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: less songs, a smaller collection of songs, so an EP

1116
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: UM and then that way. So if you put in

1117
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: an album right, you probably don't put another full album

1118
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: for two years or at least a year. And so

1119
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: if you put an EP in the spring and then

1120
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: you put out an EP and a fall, it gives

1121
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: you two chances to be relevant throughout the year, two

1122
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: chances to have something fresh coming out. So it makes

1123
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. But I grew up I just

1124
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: wanted to make records, like I always wanted to write

1125
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: an album, record that album, put it out, go do

1126
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: it in um. But it does make sense to put

1127
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: out six just powerhouse songs and then but I kind

1128
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: of I told the label, I was like, I want

1129
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: to put out a full hold. As a consumer, I don't.

1130
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't want my favorite artists to put out a

1131
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: full record if they can put out a couple six

1132
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: seven song EPs. I feel like, even as with my

1133
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: favorite artists, there are some tracks I just don't spend

1134
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: enough time with because there's twelve and thirteen and I'm

1135
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: rolling through them and I'm just like, I don't know

1136
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: if I like that one, and I feel like maybe

1137
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm I'm missing some greatness because they put out too

1138
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: many at one time. Or it's like you ever noticed,

1139
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: like I do this with John Mayor a lot. He's

1140
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 1: like him and George straight on my top two all time,

1141
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: and every time he puts out a record, like I

1142
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: fall in love with the whole thing. But I have

1143
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: my favorite songs. And then you know, whether it's three

1144
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: months later or six months later, all of a sudden,

1145
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: like all the songs that weren't my favorite, I'm like,

1146
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: godly those are likest you fall in love with those

1147
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: like you just weren't They didn't they it wasn't the

1148
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: right time for you where you were in your life

1149
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: for those songs, and then so I'm like, for a

1150
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: full album. Hopefully that's what my fans will do with

1151
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 1: a full album. You know, maybe by Christmas they'll be like, man, dude,

1152
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: the B side is really good. I'm gonna end on this.

1153
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: I was giving you a hard time on my radio

1154
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: show about this. You crushed at Nutty Brown, and it

1155
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: was the first time they opened, like ten people's in

1156
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: it was it crushed at Nutty Brown. You two shows

1157
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: full capacity. The whole story was freaking Parker McCallum comes in,

1158
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: sells out Nutty Brown two times, and then at the

1159
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: end it goes, yeah, but still holding the record for

1160
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: one show is Bobby, and I only would have busted

1161
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: your ball because it was you. Anybody else would have

1162
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: been like if I like you, and I thought you

1163
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: deserved it, so thank you. I still hold the record

1164
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: at Nutty Brown for single show. You know. I saw

1165
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: my my uncle John sent it to me. My dad

1166
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: sent it to me. My uncle sent it to me

1167
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: from my other uncle. Send it to me. I love

1168
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: your family, listen, love his family. I was going, I

1169
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: was on the phone. I was on the phone. My

1170
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: mom I was pulling. I was like, hey, I'm pulling

1171
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: to buy a bunt house. Um, don't do this podcast.

1172
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: I gotta hop off the phone. And she's like, Oh,

1173
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: he's just the cutest thing in the world. Tell him.

1174
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: I love him. I can't disagree. And I think I

1175
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: love your family. I'm proud of the success that you

1176
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: have and I love your confidence. Like it's so refreshing

1177
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: for someone to know what they can give and then

1178
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: not only give that but more. And I feel like

1179
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. Thank you man. That means a lot,

1180
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: Like it's it's refreshing to hear honesty from someone talking

1181
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: about their craft and their art who is really good

1182
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: and says, you know what, I am really good and

1183
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm about to get better and I'm gonna do it

1184
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: because I'm working hard and I'm getting better at the craft.

1185
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: For no other reason. It's not listen, I'm just naturally

1186
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: good watching me. It's like, hey, I'm I'm getting better.

1187
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: I moved here to challenge myself. So you know, I

1188
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: I love to see it from an artist. I love

1189
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: to see it from you know, from you you know,

1190
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: anybody coming from you know, from Texas especially Austin, like

1191
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: it's just an extra layer to it. But congratulations and

1192
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: all the success, and I'll end this the way I

1193
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: started it, like, it says so much about you and

1194
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: your team's character for you to stay on as the

1195
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: baby act on a major tour because you are literally

1196
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: passing up money. Yeah, thousands and that tens of thousands,

1197
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: maybe six figures it probably, yes, for sure, six figures.

1198
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: You're passing that up to go. I said this, I'm

1199
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna do this and that, and you don't have to

1200
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: respond to that. But that says a lot about you

1201
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: and us, a lot about you guys, and um, just

1202
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: just really cool. Thank you. So you gotta you have

1203
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: a humongous truck. It's not that big. I think's a monster.

1204
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: Did you see it is? It's I walked over because

1205
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: I pulled up and I walked in and I was like, look,

1206
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: Parkers over at the the other house. And I walked

1207
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: over there and I was like, well, there's Parker's truck

1208
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: right there. It is a it's a did you drive

1209
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: that up? You bought that in Texas overever and it

1210
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: got smacked. The night I moved out of that condo

1211
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: downtown into my house here. Someone smashed in the back window.

1212
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: So I was like, we're trying to steal from it,

1213
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: like like the sliding back window. Yeah, they just kicked

1214
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: it in and take anything out. There was nothing. I've

1215
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: I've been My truck's been broken into so many times.

1216
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: I had a brand new fifty King Ranch that was

1217
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: stolen the second day I had it. The truck was stolen. Oh, yes,

1218
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: did they had They would you leave the keys in it?

1219
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: Or they both sets with the paperwork? Yeah? You really

1220
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: showed him, didn't you know? And I end up finding it,

1221
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: ended up finding it six weeks later, like a hundred

1222
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: yards down the road. True story. Why what what what happened? There? Man?

1223
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: I was headed a bus call and I had been

1224
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: looking for King Ranch f too fifty all over Austin

1225
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: with paper plates. I've been looking for it everywhere. It

1226
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: was headed a bus call right there at South Congress

1227
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: and Barton Springs. You know where that chevron is, that

1228
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: gas station. It was in the parking lot and I'm

1229
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: sitting to stoplight headed to the bus and I'm like,

1230
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: I said, it did not even start to naught your

1231
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: nice store on Buddy co Wetzel and Um And I

1232
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: look over and I'm like king ranch paper plates. I

1233
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: was like, well that's worth it. And I pulled in

1234
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: and I had just bought in a deer stand that

1235
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: day that the truck was stolen in the the box

1236
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: that it was in it was a tree stand and

1237
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: the corporate it was sticking up out of the bed.

1238
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: And then my stomach just dropped and I was like,

1239
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: Holy sh it, this is my truck. Why why would

1240
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: they leave it there? And was it damaged? I think

1241
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: the guy had when he stole it, he went and

1242
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: hit it somewhere, and I think it just so happened

1243
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: that when he went to get it and pulled it

1244
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: in there to fill it up that day, um that

1245
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: I had been driving by, And so I get out

1246
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: and I'm looking. I mean, I had already had just

1247
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: gotten Do you think it just happened to be there

1248
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: when you drove by to see? Is that my truck?

1249
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: The guy that stole it was there and so and

1250
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: I was in an identical I had gotten a new

1251
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: truck already. Insurance has got me a new truck. I

1252
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: just received the check for that truck that day. Is

1253
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: a brand new truck. I was like, the insurance companies,

1254
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: and I think I'm full of ship and I get

1255
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: out and I'm looking at it, and this guy walks

1256
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: up and he's like, hey, you're parking Macom country singer.

1257
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: And I'm going, how in the world does this guy

1258
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: know who I am? He goes, this is your truck.

1259
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: It's been here for three weeks. We've been trying to

1260
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: get ahold of you. We knew it was stolen. And

1261
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm going, why wouldn't you call the police? Why? And

1262
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: you don't you know Austin, you don't park anywhere you're

1263
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: not supposed to be, They don't tell you, and so

1264
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: and but that guy ended up leaving, and as soon

1265
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: as he left it started clicking. I'm like, that's the

1266
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: son of a bitch that stole my truck. That's crazy.

1267
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: But it was locked. I couldn't get anything out of it.

1268
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: So what happened then with that other truck? Who take

1269
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: it's a total loss? They take it, and I guess

1270
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: auction it, offer, take it back to the dealership and

1271
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: resell it or whatever. So but I had to call

1272
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: the insurance company and be like, I know, you'll just

1273
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: send me the check, but I just found it, and

1274
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: what do they say, sure you did there. I mean

1275
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: it's a total loss. It's gone. I follow Parker on Instagram.

1276
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: Parker McCallum to be loved by you now pretty hard

1277
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: with number one massive obviously. Good to see you, my friend, man,

1278
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I see you around. I mean,

1279
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: we just did an hour. Basically, I feel like heck,

1280
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I know even better than before you

1281
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: walked in here. Well, I've been a fan for even

1282
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: just getting to play your show that early morning, uh

1283
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: several months ago. Was was such a treat man. That

1284
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: was really that was kind of like the Billy bopstak Man.

1285
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: You just one of those things. So I was like,

1286
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: wonderful ever get to do that? Thanks man, to your

1287
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: mom and your sister who may be listening, hello, and

1288
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you both exists. And to the mom,

1289
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm glad you got you got some you got some

1290
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: good kids. So all right, there is Parker McCallum here

1291
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: with Emma Klein, who just a quick backstory of how

1292
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: we met. Would you like to tell because I have

1293
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: a version, Yeah, I'll tell my version. Okay. So I

1294
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: was doing American Idol and you are on American Idol

1295
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: obviously I was singing. He was my competition, the fiercest competition. Um,

1296
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: but I actually hadn't known you, and my mom was like, oh,

1297
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones, you gotta look him up. I was like, okay, cool.

1298
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: So I met you briefly during group round, I think,

1299
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: and you were trying to convince me not to sing

1300
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: an original song for or. It wasn't group round, it

1301
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: was the soul around, and I didn't listen to you,

1302
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: and then I did eventually get cut, but then you

1303
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: were like, if you get cut, let me know and

1304
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: you can come play piano for me. And then I

1305
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: got cut, hit you up on Instagram, was like he's

1306
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: never going to see this, and then ran into you

1307
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: at Radnor Lake on a hike. See. My version of

1308
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: the story is actually much better. It's a little glitzier. Okay, okay,

1309
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: tell the glitz. I don't remember meeting you at Hollywood

1310
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: Week because there they sake me a ten thousand people,

1311
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure ten thousand rooms, and they tell me in

1312
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: my ear they're like, okay, I tell you what to say. No,

1313
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: they do say, here's the situation. So they're like prepping

1314
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: me for what I'm walking into because that's the only

1315
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: time with the whole season went on that show. They

1316
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: just got bout my caller and go go into this room.

1317
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: Here's what you're gonna see. And I don't know everybody yet.

1318
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: That's chaotic. It's chaotic for me too, because I get

1319
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: confused for you. Yeah, after Hollywood Week, because because holy

1320
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: looks chaotic, well just for you guys, just I cried

1321
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: so much. You're just no sleep no, like yeah, um,

1322
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: and so I do not remember that, but I do

1323
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: remember going to Hawaii, which is like in my mind

1324
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: the first time that we talked, like actually had a conversation,

1325
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: and you were doing a rehearsal for your Hawaii round

1326
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: and you crushed your rehearsal and I was like, god, dang.

1327
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't remember her being that good.

1328
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: I didn't remember you at all. Thank you, yeah of course,

1329
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: but I was like I don't. I'm glad I'm not

1330
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: remember and you were so good and I think you

1331
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: did a cover was did you do a bombar? I did? Yeah? Yeah?

1332
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Is this love? Is this love? Is this love? Is

1333
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: just like that? And I um, I remember thinking, holy moly,

1334
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: And I told my producer. I was like, how come

1335
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: I haven't spent more time with her because you know,

1336
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to find the people that have a good

1337
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: story or great singers or Mike. You're just looking for

1338
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: good television early on and they're like whoa. Someone said,

1339
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: well she we haven't felt like she has made good

1340
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: TV yet because she's been strong, but she hasn't been crazy.

1341
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: She hasn't been one of the top three or four.

1342
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, she's gonna win now. They were like,

1343
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: but she had such a great performance, let's go talk

1344
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: to us, Like great, So when we you and I

1345
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: did a little talk on camera. Yes, yeah, it wasn't

1346
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: anything big, but we did in front of the stage.

1347
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: I think right over there in Hawaiian the Sitiah we

1348
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: did that. And I remember going, this is before your

1349
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: performance because I didn't stick around because I wasnt gonna

1350
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: stay all night. I was I fly back to Nashville. Yeah,

1351
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, listen, it's back and forth for me.

1352
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: And I remember going, oh, there's no no chance she

1353
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: gets cut, like she's too good. But I remember telling

1354
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: you once you told me you lived here because you

1355
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: want to Belmont. Yes, hey, if you don't make it,

1356
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: when you don't make it, come play with me, because

1357
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: I thought you played piano because you played it on stage. No,

1358
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: I didn't play it on stage. What happened was you

1359
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: were like, do you play any instruments? Happened and I

1360
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: played and I was like, yeah, I play some guitars

1361
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: and piano, and that's when it happened. Well, you fooled

1362
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: me whenever it was, and make it. To your credit,

1363
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: you continue to fake it. I did, and so and

1364
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: then I remember talking to Luke afterward and I was like,

1365
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: I called it. The next day when I saw you

1366
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: didn't make it, I said, why do you guys put

1367
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: him it through? And he was like, man, she was good,

1368
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: and I thought she should go through. But I didn't

1369
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: win that one. And I was like, all right, well

1370
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: that was it, right, But I knew that you were

1371
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: back here and we were putting together the idiots for

1372
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: some big stage shows, and so did you message me?

1373
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: I did, Okay, yeah, But I was like at that

1374
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: point I think you would just maybe like you had

1375
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: a million followers, so I was like, I mean, it's

1376
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: probably just gonna get lost in d M world. So

1377
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: what I did is I went to your page click message,

1378
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: and you had sent me a message because I was

1379
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: going to send you a message, okay, but I saw

1380
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: you walking down the random street and I was in

1381
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: my car and I was like, Emma, she's walking like

1382
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: a couple of the people. She was like, yeah, I

1383
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: don't winded down and I was like, hey, uh, let's go.

1384
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: I'll message you soon as I leave here. And then

1385
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: that was it. If I hadn't parked my car exactly

1386
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: where I parked my car, I wouldn't have run into you. Yeah,

1387
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that we would be both sitting here

1388
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: together and that that's crazy that happening. But also if

1389
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: you wouldn't sign up ride or yeah, if you would,

1390
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: but who knows. Maybe if you didn't sign up ride on,

1391
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: someone else would have found you planning at a bar

1392
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: and you would be selling out Madden's Square Garden. You

1393
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: never know, you never know. Crazy, but we are here. Um.

1394
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: Then you said I played piano. That turns out you

1395
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: didn't really play piano, but she practiced a lot. So

1396
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I played one show at this on piano.

1397
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: I played a couple, played one in California with a

1398
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: big band. But then I played only Yeah, but I

1399
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: only played one with just you and Eddie got it. Yes, no,

1400
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: Walker came in and then thank god when you were

1401
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: like Walker's number and I was like yes, and she opened.

1402
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: Then she opened the whole tour for us. So we

1403
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: spent five months together. Basically, yes, I was quite happy

1404
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: to to open for you. I think that it was

1405
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: the best. Now now we're here, that's how we met.

1406
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: You are out of school now, yes, you you have

1407
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: a big fancy publishing deal with their paying you to

1408
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: write songs. You Basically when I met you, you were

1409
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: working as a waiter at some fancy Spanish restaurant places Barcelona.

1410
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: One bar so good. Have you ever been there? I

1411
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: don't think so. It's really it's like tapas bar. You

1412
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: don't work anymore. You have to sell it anymore. But

1413
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: I get well, hey, I still get half off sometimes

1414
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: it's the right managers there. So I well, she's all

1415
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: fancy now writing songs. And but there's a reason you're

1416
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: actually here today, now that we've caught up. Um, you

1417
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: just put out a new EP. Yes love Me Too?

1418
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: Why I Love Me Too? What's that? What's you name

1419
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: it that? For? So? I know it's a name of

1420
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: a track, but like why would you pick that as

1421
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 1: the encompassing album name? For sure? So the the whole

1422
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: EP is basically the story of a relationship and it

1423
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: was back in college, and um, just kind of me

1424
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: coming in and out of of like one bad relationship

1425
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: from before college and then that one in college whatever.

1426
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: So long story short, like just kind of searching for

1427
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: love and all these other places that were outside of myself.

1428
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: And I think that I was just in this headspace

1429
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: for a while where I was I don't want to

1430
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: say desperate, but I just was like lonely, which is

1431
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: a normal human thing, but I just, um, I never

1432
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: was comfortable being alone with myself. And then I wrote

1433
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: that song love Me Too, and it's just all about like,

1434
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: after this whole series of love stories about me struggling

1435
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: with like other people, um, it's like I gotta love

1436
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: me too. So that's why there are five tracks. Here

1437
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: is track one. Call it what this? Can we just

1438
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: call it what it is? Everyone knows it's obvious, but

1439
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: to make it mystery one. So this was in my

1440
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: mind the first one that was existing. Yes, just usually

1441
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: played it shows ago, Yeah, he's playing it shows and

1442
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: I was like, dang. Then we started playing it on

1443
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: the national weekend shows, and you'll be like, all randomly,

1444
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: my Spotify gets a big spike for some reason. She's like,

1445
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: I'll just look on a random Sunday. I'll look and

1446
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: there's a huge spike, and I'm like, we're playing it

1447
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: on the national show. People hear it. That's what happened.

1448
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: That's how it's supposed to work. People hear it and

1449
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: they go, oh, that's cool, let me go find it.

1450
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: They listen to it. It is magic. That is track one.

1451
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: Here is track two. Butterflies can say, God's good that

1452
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: So that song is about you not having butterflies anymore

1453
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: because it's over. Yes, yes, it's the coffee closure talk

1454
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: and realizing the butterflies are gone? Is this chronological? Yeah?

1455
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: Well okay, so here's the thing. Actually, I accidentally put

1456
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: the wrong order out on Spotify and we're rearranging it,

1457
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: so technically Off my Mind comes before butterflies. Well, I

1458
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: was gonna say, cause butterflies seems a little early in

1459
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: the whole, unless you like, murder him and Try five,

1460
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't understand that arc. Yeah, so it's actually supposed

1461
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: to be called what it is, Off my Mind then butterflies.

1462
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: So we're gonna it's gonna get fixed eventually, but just

1463
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: so for yeah, thank you for that. Ye here is

1464
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: off my mind track three The Shop World Up you

1465
01:06:52,200 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: but to Tattoo and Love Sick Brain. There ain't nothing.

1466
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: It's a good one. Thank you quite a little songwriter there.

1467
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. That was a song that was

1468
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: like I want to write songs forever. I'm reading this.

1469
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: Mike posted a note about you here. It says, um,

1470
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Speaker 1: you were prompted just to go b like to idle

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: for just one split a second prompted buy your friend

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Speaker 1: Walker Burrows. I don't know he actually got you to

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah? Was he the season before? You know,

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: we were the same season he was. We were in

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: an acapella group together and he was. He texted me.

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01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: It was actually while I was serving at Barcelona, He's like,

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01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: I got an Idol audition tomorrow. You should totally come

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: try out. And I was like, I've tried out for

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01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: those shows like so many times. I was like it's fine,

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01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: and then he's like, no, seriously, it's he's peasy. It's

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: like just at the hotel this week. So I did it.

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: So yep, he got me to come along and we

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: got to do that together, so it was pretty cool.

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01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was I thought you guys just

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01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: knew each other from back home. I didn't know that

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: actually was you know, a hand in getting you to

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Speaker 1: come mom on the show. It was wild Walker and

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: I like, seriously like our paths crossing. It's kind of

1489
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: the same thing as us. It's like we it was

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01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: just crazy. For the past three years, we've both been

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01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: having the same opportunities come up. So it just was

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01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: awesome to have a friend through all of that. Hired

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01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: Walker to play at Caitlin's sister's wedding. You did did

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01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: he already play there? It's in like three weeks and

1495
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: when when your wedding June, it's like the week after. Yeah,

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: that's amazing. So oh yeah, she caitlin sister loves Walker

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01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: and I guess no, Walker quite well. I know that.

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01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why it's basically the third idiot at

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01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: this point if we're playing Walkers with us. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't know Walker was the one. Here's what it says.

1501
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: It says Walker Burrows got you in to America, where

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01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: her vocal talent entrance to Bobby Bones, who wrote that

1503
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: it was me. Yeah, then cook her to open for

1504
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots Tour until the pandemic. That is true.

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: Let's see. It was on the stage in twenty nineteen

1506
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: that Emma Klein revealed her under pinned inspiration for her

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: I can try at the show. Let's see off my

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: mind and then he goes on to stuff. Okay, let's

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01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: do another song here, down, give me some of down,

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: down down Baby. I'm so afraid if you keep me

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: around till day breaks, will you still feel the way

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: I've been building up beforetress for so loud? Now, how

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 1: do I tell it out? Down down down down, down

1514
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: down down? Maybe it's the start crying right now? Interfere

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: And then here's the final track, love me too, somebody

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01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: really eddybody will do there's someone to be who can

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01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: love me too? Dang hit him like that looking for

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01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: something else? Do you talk about your boy right now? Oh?

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: Do you do? I want to talk about what do you? Oh? No,

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01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, not at all, No, not at all.

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: It's great he plays drums for me, so he gets

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: to play all of these songs. No, no, no no.

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: Do you talk about him in public? If someone asked

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01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: you about like, if I were to go, do you

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01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: have a boyfriend, what would you say? Oh? Yeah, okay,

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01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. I mean i've seen him on your

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01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: social media. I know i've met him, but I don't

1528
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: know in an interview setting if you go, oh, yes,

1529
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: well I'll talk about him. How about and what does

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: he think about you doing a holy p about my ex?

1531
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: He actually just um, we just did a music video

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01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: and I hired Garrett. I didn't hire him. He worked

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01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: for free and he was he played my ex in

1534
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: the music video. Your current played your ex? Yes, he's

1535
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: a he's a good sport. And how is that relationship going?

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: It's going great because you guys started being together whenever

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01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: you were still out with me. Yeah, yep, and you're

1538
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: still good. We're still good. It's so easy, it's like

1539
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: so funny. It's just just easy peasy. Do you ever

1540
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: go It's been tough though. I was just kind of

1541
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: thinking of your last year or so, because you've kind

1542
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: of really started the fig you who you are, and

1543
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: you're writing and you've been dedicated to music almost solely.

1544
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, like, if you go somewhere

1545
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, I'm an artist in Nashville or songwriter.

1546
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: How people react to that, but I guess you haven't

1547
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: been a lot of places. Yeah, I mean, it's it's

1548
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: kind of insane. Like I graduated Belmont, actually miss graduation

1549
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: because of American idol, and and I had been fully

1550
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: anticipating traveling, like I've been saving money. I was going

1551
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: to go travel in Europe for like six months and

1552
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: just do whatever, come back, try to get a pub

1553
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: deal eventually. But it was just one thing after the

1554
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 1: next after the next, and then I signed a pub deal,

1555
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: got off tour with you, and then the pandemic hit.

1556
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: So it's just it's crazy how it happened that way.

1557
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: Are you still writing on zoom at all? Are you

1558
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: back in um? Pretty much back in person? Most people

1559
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: are either fully vaccinated or you know, mask on whatever,

1560
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: and we've been we've been writing in person again, which

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: is nice. You don't you don't deal with the zoom

1562
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: lag of a guitar anymore. That's been hard, and it's

1563
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: kind of hard to sing along with somebody if you're

1564
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: like if they're playing and you're kind of you know,

1565
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 1: chasing a melody and you can't really match it because

1566
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: there's a little lag. It's so hard, especially if you're

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01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: working with a producer during a zoom right, because they're

1568
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: on their computer, so you kind of get the lag

1569
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: from their computer and you sing. But I actually had

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01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: my first like legit cut on a zoom right. Um

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01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: hann Oker a Christian artist. Yeah, I know, Hannah. Yeah,

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01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: she's great. So she cut it's called Same God and

1573
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: that that like hit top forty a couple of weeks ago,

1574
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: so that was super. I was like, what the heck

1575
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: is zoom right? Just a right period? Is that your

1576
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: first cut? Yeah, that's not you. Yeah, I've done a

1577
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: couple for like friends, so it's not technically my first

1578
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: cut like that went to Belmont, but that's my first,

1579
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: like first cut. Yeah. You couldn't possibly be a roommate

1580
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: with exactly exactly. That's really cool, isn't that awesome? Congratulations?

1581
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: Pub deal? But about a year right, yeah, or it's

1582
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: been a little bit over a year now. Uh down,

1583
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: we'll put it playing down in the country top thirty right.

1584
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: We are oh sweet that I did not know that.

1585
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: When is that next next weekend? Okay, not this weekend,

1586
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: not this weekend? Yeah, but I don't I'm confused with

1587
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: the show airs on Friday, but still the same, not

1588
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: this weekend, but the next. So we're gonna okay, you

1589
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: will be highlighted than the biggest countdown in America, Thank

1590
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: you so much, and Down will be played and you

1591
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: will be our spotlight artists. So I can expect to

1592
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: have a random increase. And not only that, we were

1593
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: also playing the song on the Woman of Our Country,

1594
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: thank You, thank you, thank you. So there you go

1595
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: a little, you get to play, you get a spin.

1596
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: I really appreciate what what's happening now with you as

1597
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: an artist. So because I know you wrote this, you're

1598
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: saying this, and what I mean is you have publisher

1599
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: doing You're writing songs for the folks. But like, are

1600
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: you gonna go try to play and travel and what's

1601
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: the deal? Yeah, I would love to tour again as

1602
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: soon as possible. Open for somebody. Um, I would love

1603
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: to think about record deal in the next year or two. Um,

1604
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: just talk to more people. And but honestly, yeah, just

1605
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: I I think that I struggle in writing rooms to

1606
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: write for myself. I really love writing for other artists

1607
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: when I get in a room, and I think that's

1608
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: probably because it's a little bit harder for me to

1609
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: like trust the process, like putting it in someone else's hands,

1610
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: like my own artist stuff. So I'm getting a little

1611
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: bit more comfortable with that each right, and so I'm

1612
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: hoping to write a little bit more for myself in

1613
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: rooms and also find some good producers to do the

1614
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: next project with. What is your Let me look at

1615
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: your streams here. You definitely call it what it is?

1616
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: Hit it the best because of your help, Yes, I

1617
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: think I agree. But it's also a great song. It's

1618
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: an upbeat one, you know, so that's always fun people.

1619
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: People don't always like to be as sad as I

1620
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: like to write songs about. I like that your phone

1621
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: case matches your jacket. Why read why it's only color

1622
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: I can really see? Are you color blunt? Yeah? Crazily.

1623
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Crazily. Um, I was looking. Here's Mike,

1624
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: when you pull up the Raging Idiots, you actually you

1625
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: have another cut too that you forgot about. Oh it's

1626
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: not you, it's me to other cuts more than that, Mike,

1627
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: if you'll pull it up. The intro song to our

1628
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: entire stage show. It was like a little Broadway number

1629
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: where Eddie and I come out separately. It's called I'm Here.

1630
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: I remember sitting at the house and me and you

1631
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: and Eddie wrote it and then but Walker performed it. Yes,

1632
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: but we sat there with keys and just clunked around,

1633
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: and I was like I wanted to be some kind

1634
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: of like remember I forgot my piano to the right.

1635
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember that I was late? I was an

1636
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: hour late and I forgot my piano an late I

1637
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: ever talked to you again. I didn't know what time.

1638
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: I knew it was that like Tuesday at two, but

1639
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was a Monday. I thought that, like

1640
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: the current day was on Monday. So you called and

1641
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's on Tuesday. You're like, today

1642
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: is Tuesday. I was like, no, okay, yeah, I rewind that.

1643
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: On up, you play from the beginning. So here, let

1644
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: me let me teach you this. Here we're out. You

1645
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: can pause it for a second. It's dark except for

1646
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: two well two large hanging man, one red and one

1647
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: green like a stick outline. And then the keys go,

1648
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: and this is the intro to our entire comedy music show.

1649
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: All right, Eddie's out first. That's they cheer out when

1650
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: it comes out. I'm here. I'm here. I hope that

1651
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: you're ready. I'm here, I'm here. It's your favorite Mexican eddie.

1652
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna sing some songs. You're gonna sing along. And

1653
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: if you think Bobby can sing, well, you're wrong. That's

1654
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: why he brought me along. I'm here, I'm here, and

1655
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna come out of the other side in

1656
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: the cradle cheer. It's all edited in there. Yeah, yeah,

1657
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: we did this night. I'm here, I'm here. Some people

1658
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: think I'm a weenie. I'm here. I'm here because I

1659
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: saw me dancing on TV. I got a mirror ball.

1660
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: I can't see it all. I can't get a girl

1661
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: to give me a call. That's why I brought him along.

1662
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: But and then it goes on and on and on.

1663
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: But that's how we started the show, and we wrote

1664
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 1: that at the very beginning. You came over like, all right,

1665
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. Let's write an intro song to

1666
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: the whole stage show. Because it wasn't just me doing

1667
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: stand up. Russia's playing songs. There was kind of a comedy,

1668
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: you know, an entire little strain we yes, we created.

1669
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: I remember we had also written a song about a turkey.

1670
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: On Thanksgiving, we had thanks Here's the thing about record,

1671
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: you write a bunch of songs and I'm just don't

1672
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: make it. We were doing it trying to find a

1673
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving song, Mike. My dad didn't play it on Thanksgiving.

1674
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: I had the little voice memo and he he loves you.

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Speaker 1: My dad was like, you need to give Bobby. My

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Speaker 1: dad always buying you presents, so he's got one for

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Speaker 1: you for your wedding. Here eventually, and then we wrote

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Speaker 1: It's not you, It's Me. We're got that together? Did

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Speaker 1: you just sing? I just sang that, yeah, dang, but

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Speaker 1: you didn't get it cut on I'm here, Yes, And

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Speaker 1: I loved singing that It's not you It's me. That

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Speaker 1: was so fun, this one love song that was like,

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Speaker 1: and uh, don't want to break your and I know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna sound cleasia, but I don't know what else

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Speaker 1: to say. It's not you, it's me. I just don't

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Speaker 1: like dating loser. You're my least favorite, great, great, good enough.

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Speaker 1: I should come out at the end and they laugh

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Speaker 1: and well, listen, you're you're doing great. Thank you. Just

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Speaker 1: a kid four years old and like, what are you

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Speaker 1: staying in Nashville. Yeah, I'm staying in Nashville. I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: that um, eventually I can kind of go back and

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Speaker 1: forth between l A. Um, maybe eventually London would be

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Speaker 1: really cool, but just um do you That was a

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Speaker 1: really cool thing about Zoom Writes was how much we

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Speaker 1: got to go like people I would only get to

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Speaker 1: write with in person in l A. Suddenly we were

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Speaker 1: now like, okay, let's just Zoom. We might as well

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Speaker 1: we can. So now I'm like, okay, cool. I have

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Speaker 1: a couple of friends that live there now, so that'll

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Speaker 1: be nice. And you're gonna go out on the road

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Speaker 1: and try to play some shows. Yeah, I'll keep you updated.

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Speaker 1: Anybody out there need me, well nobody. Actually, here's this.

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Speaker 1: We just keep this for us unless go it at

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Speaker 1: the end of the week. I haven't been recording this. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we just kind of talk about it. Remember that she

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Speaker 1: said that you just use it as your sleep noise.

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Speaker 1: You guys check out love Me too. Five songs were

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Speaker 1: you writing today? Okay, you didn't leave it right to

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Speaker 1: come do this. This was my only thing today. I

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Speaker 1: think about Emma. She's so good and I can't wait

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Speaker 1: for whenever you become a big star to go. She

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Speaker 1: used to come to my house at one in the

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Speaker 1: morning and walk Stanley. Yes, I did. She crashed my

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Speaker 1: car doing it, that's right. I forgot about. She had

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Speaker 1: a key to the house and Stanley was a puppy

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Speaker 1: puppy and he was just a dick. And Emma would

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Speaker 1: come at one o'clock in the morning because you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd go to bed early and have to get up

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Speaker 1: and go to work, and she'd come and walk, take

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Speaker 1: them outside, let me in the bathroom one in the morning,

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Speaker 1: and you you wrecked your car. It's like a fender binder, right,

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Speaker 1: tell me that story. So I actually Nolan's villain Thompson

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Speaker 1: in Nashville. Everyone watch out when you're driving through that intersection,

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Speaker 1: because I got in two accidents in two days, back

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Speaker 1: to back in that intersection. The first one I was

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Speaker 1: driving to your house. It was probably me in one

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Speaker 1: other car and they're like in the left turn lane

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Speaker 1: and I'm in like the there's like a left turn lane,

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Speaker 1: two middle lanes, then one right turn lane. They were

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Speaker 1: in the left turn lane. They decided last minute through

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Speaker 1: the light to just that they wanted to turn right.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't have time to stop. So like we

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Speaker 1: hit it was crazy. I was actually with Walker. We're

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Speaker 1: both fine, so that was good. I actually still have

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Speaker 1: my little rearview mirror from that car. I loved that car,

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Speaker 1: but I was okay, So that was good. That's my

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Speaker 1: whole story for you. Very exciting, and we'll wrap with that.

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Speaker 1: You always want to end on a high note. And

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Speaker 1: we didn't get to this show, but maybe next one.

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Speaker 1: Like all right, you guys, follow him. I am Ema Klein,

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Speaker 1: Am Emma k l E. I n um my player

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Speaker 1: because I thinks she's so great. I wish we got

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Speaker 1: to hang out more. I rarely get to see you anymore.

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Speaker 1: You're just a big star. Now walk the dog. You

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Speaker 1: won't do anything. I would actually um love to come

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Speaker 1: over and cook with Caitlin sometime, hang out with the dogs.

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Speaker 1: You just let me know I'm available. You guys, check

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Speaker 1: out Love Me Too. It's five songs that are slightly

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Speaker 1: out of order, but they're going to be in order soon. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and all right. That's it. Follow her, listen to her,

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Speaker 1: support her, and I'll see you soon. Thank you,