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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. M Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, My

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Speaker 1: name is Neil Spooky Brown. They call me Ben and

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Speaker 1: various other things. You are you that makes this stuff

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Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. A relatively spooky episode

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Speaker 1: for us today. Yeah. I'm not sure if I'm just

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Speaker 1: getting old and like sentimental or something, but I was

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Speaker 1: writing around yesterday listening to Thriller really loud in my car,

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Speaker 1: and it made me cry how good that song is,

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Speaker 1: Like how perfectly done that song is, and how it's

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Speaker 1: like you think it couldn't get any better, you think

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Speaker 1: it couldn't getty better, and then Vincent Price boom. Fun fact,

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Speaker 1: I used to know the core biography of the Thriller dance. Yeah, this,

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Speaker 1: I mean been My experience is separated from the video,

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Speaker 1: the video as a whole, another layer of like shocking

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Speaker 1: art right there. It is, So we are doing one.

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Speaker 1: We are delving into one topic that is particularly spooky,

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Speaker 1: so spooky in fact, that they use the word spook

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Speaker 1: in the name. It's correct, and it was. We were

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Speaker 1: hipped to the attention of this topic by a listener

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Speaker 1: named Megan, who wrote to us. She says, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I started your podcast couple of weeks ago, and I'm

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Speaker 1: greatly enjoying it. It's been a great way to help

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Speaker 1: getting a little annoyed with me randomly laughing or bringing

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Speaker 1: up odd conversations, we understand that completely, Megan, the laughing part,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe the odd conversations for sure. Uh. She says,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've ever heard of the Joplin

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Speaker 1: spook Light, but I thought it might be something that

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Speaker 1: you'd have an interest in. I've been fascinated by it

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Speaker 1: theories that I hear. Yeah, thank you for writing in, Megan.

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Speaker 1: Our first response. I don't know about you, guys, but

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Speaker 1: my first response when I read the phrase Joplin Spooklight

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Speaker 1: was what a great band name. Yeah, like I would go.

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Speaker 1: I would go see them, only if you can get

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Speaker 1: Janis to front it, though I think that, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: you could do stuff with holograms or ghost maybe uh

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Speaker 1: never holograms. Never, never holograms. All right, we'll see that

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Speaker 1: freaks me out. We could get the old pentagram back out,

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Speaker 1: see what we can conjure, conjure the janis alright cool.

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Speaker 1: So I think we've we've just started a band, and

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Speaker 1: before we before we get to our album, which is

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Speaker 1: pretty clearly going to be a concept album, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: as long acause we're all on board. Oh and we

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Speaker 1: need to introduce our super producer, Alex Williams. On the ones,

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Speaker 1: twos and threes, he pointed out, Scott Joplin could be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that'd be a different kind of band. But I get

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Speaker 1: we could make it like space jazz. What about just

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Speaker 1: the two of them, just the two Choplins that would

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Speaker 1: and we'll put a we'll put a we'll put a

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Speaker 1: through what sort of band Joplin Spooklight would be. It

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Speaker 1: turns out that the Joplin Spooklight, in addition to being

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Speaker 1: an example of something that is also called, you know,

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Speaker 1: a ghostlight, spooklight, a willow the wisp. And how have

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Speaker 1: I will say, for for a fact, stuff to blow

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Speaker 1: your mind, our sister podcast, what do you call it, compatriots,

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Speaker 1: what's pure podcast? Stuff to blow your mind? Are pure,

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Speaker 1: part pot part pure. That's hard to say, stuff to

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Speaker 1: also if you're a stuff to blow your mind fan,

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Speaker 1: So do check that out. But first, in this episode,

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Speaker 1: Maybe And we'll get to that right after a quick

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Speaker 1: crew go out and watch films when we can find

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00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: time because we're nerds. But if we ever walk out

422
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: and you hear me say that I didn't like something

423
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: because it insists upon itself, it probably means I wasn't

424
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: paying attention and I want to sound smart, That expression,

425
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: to me means that something was pretentious. There we go, Well,

426
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: thank you for giving some meaning to it. Just how

427
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: it hits me. Let's started accusing people of insisting on themselves.

428
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: How would you even do that? You just walk up

429
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: to them and like, hey, it's me, it's me, It's

430
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: really me. Oh the time, you mean, how would somebody

431
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: insist upon themselves? You just kind of like insist that

432
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: you're important, in the situation. I think it's with me.

433
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. We've solved it, and

434
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: you slam your fist down on the table. We've solved it,

435
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: as well as solving the mystery of spooklights or have

436
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: we hang ty chemosaba, because to date, no one has

437
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: captured or observed an animal that has all these characteristics

438
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: that would make get, you know, a one on one

439
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: comparison with a ghost light. And there's also at this

440
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: point no bioluminescent source that we know of that's bright enough. Yeah,

441
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: it's overwhelmingly unlikely for these lights to be produced by animals. Correct,

442
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: But what if the Earth is doing it itself, you guys, Yeah, yeah,

443
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: remember the thing of piezoelectrics that been mentioned before, where

444
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: the Earth itself is creating it or perhaps even that

445
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: favled marsh gas. Yeah, so okay. The idea is that

446
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: the tectonic strain moving faults in the Earth would also

447
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: heat up the rocks, vaporizing any water content, and rock

448
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: or soil containing something like quartz or silicon or arsenic

449
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: can also produce electricity that would be channeled up to

450
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: the surface through the soil via the water as a

451
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: medium and then somehow appear as these lights. This, if

452
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: it were piezoelectric in origin, would also explain why the

453
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: lights appear to be erratic or even intelligent in their behavior,

454
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: because there's some kind of flow that's occurring there that

455
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: maybe is moving it in a way that you would

456
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: think as you're watching it, they're choosing to do that. Yeah,

457
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: because we like to anthropomorphize things, right and describe agency

458
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: to them. You know, but what about marsh gas? What

459
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: about marsh gas? So this guy Alessandro Volta, who discovered

460
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: methane in originally put forth this idea that these ghostly

461
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: orbs of light were somehow tied to marsh gas. He

462
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: believed that lightning mixed with the swamp gases and caused

463
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: the ghost lights. His theory um was pretty controversial at

464
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: time and initially was just, you know, disregarded wholeheartedly due

465
00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: to two pretty important factors. One is the unlikeliness of

466
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: spontaneous combustion. Okay, that's a good one, that's not likely,

467
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: not super likely, And two is the his failure to

468
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: explain why these phenomena appeared to retreat when approached, as

469
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: if they knew something was kind of as if tobeccon

470
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: you into the void like a swamp siren. Yes or

471
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: no no no, no, no, no, no, no, don't don't

472
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: fall don't see how confused are you supposed to go

473
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: into the light? Are you not supposed to go into

474
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: the light? Really depends on the context. Are you dying

475
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: and you're ready to go then yes? Right, that's the

476
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: whole point. That's the only time you go into the light.

477
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a Poulter guist thing or just don't go

478
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: into the light? Yeah, because the the actual Poulter guyst

479
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: the Dead Cult Leader is trying to take Carol Anne's

480
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: enormous power. You know, I've never seen Poulter guys. Ben,

481
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: you just spoiled poulter Geist for me. No, I didn't

482
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: even tell you. The coolest part Dead Cult Leader, though,

483
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: is they don't get to that until like poulter Geist

484
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: two or three. I see, you've spoiled the whole franchise

485
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: for me, dude, Yeah, let me go ahead, let me

486
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: make it worse. The guy who is that guy had

487
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: a show called Coach. He's the dad. What the hell

488
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: is his name? The only thing you need to know

489
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: about Poltergeist is that braces sometimes attack you. Your own

490
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: braces sometimes attack you, and that's terrifying. Everybody knows that. Yeah,

491
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: and I feel like I must have done braces me horrible, horrible,

492
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: malicious things. I feel like I may have done you

493
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: a disservice, my friend, because I went through that period

494
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: where I was just sending images screen caps from Poultergeist

495
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: in response to work emails like creepy old dude with

496
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: the hat. This is like pre emoji. This is probably

497
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: pre emoji. Yeah. The first time I ever saw meat

498
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: in a like a decomposing state where there are maggots

499
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: and everything is from Poltergeist. And I was a little kid,

500
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: and it has scarred me ever since. Yes, I'm glad

501
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about decomposition because this, this idea that Volta

502
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: proposes says that. All right, So the normal way that

503
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: organic stuff decomposes in open air is called aerobic decomposition.

504
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: It sounds like a lazy fitness program. It means they're

505
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: affected by air around them. And like all organic matter, plants, animals,

506
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: what have you, are mostly made up of carbon and

507
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: oxygen and hydrogen, and when decaying in the presence of oxygen,

508
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: the byproducts of the decomposition process are going to be

509
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide, energy, or heat water. But in swampy or

510
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: marshy areas, which would also happen to be very humid,

511
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: aerobic decomposition often doesn't take place because the dead matter,

512
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: the organic stuff, gets buried beneath water or water saturated

513
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: soil and it continues to decompose in the absence of

514
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: air anaerobic decomposition, and that would mean that the matter

515
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: gets broken down by anaerobic bacteria. And here we go.

516
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: This is why it matters because when the bacteria are

517
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: decomposing this stuff or breaking it down, they produce carbon dioxide, nitrogen, phosphenes,

518
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: other chemicals, including methane as byproducts. Now methane, what do

519
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: we know about methane? Uh? Have Well, is anyone out

520
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: there ever attempted to um light a toot on fire? Toute? Really?

521
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: This is like that time. So it was a while back.

522
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: When would you called something to know? No place? Yeah? Yeah,

523
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: should we take a break and go tinkle? I mean,

524
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, if you got a tinkle tinkle, But you know, alright,

525
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: so uh toots, yeah, toots and methane it's flammable. That's

526
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: why it's important. That is important. Yeah. Uh, phosphenes are

527
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: so flammable and they can burst into spontaneous flame, uh

528
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: in the presence of air. As it burns, it produces

529
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: this dense white cloud which could seem to give more

530
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: substance to the flame, right, especially from far away, mixed

531
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: with methane. Uh. This these gases functioning in concert, would

532
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, would be the explanation for willow the wisp,

533
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: at least according to the Volta, Especially if you get

534
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: a pocket of the gas that's just on fire for

535
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: a little bit and burns for a little while and

536
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: then dissipates or you know, begins burning in a direction.

537
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: It sure sounds like it needs some pretty specific circumstances

538
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: to generate this effect. Though, you know that's correct when

539
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: you hear the way it's described, it's it's all got

540
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: a very similar look, right, or they're bobbing and weaving

541
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: and kind of like you said, retreating, especially to see

542
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: it every night. I mean, what there's like a National

543
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: park style you know, scenic overlook for the damn things.

544
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, you know, it's not a made

545
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: up phenomenon, but we know how the northern lights work right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

546
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: we know, you know what the cause of that phenomen is.

547
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting that we have we've accepted this visual oddity,

548
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: but we don't really know what causes. It's pretty neat. Well,

549
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of people will say

550
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: they have figured out the cause of a specific one

551
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: or a specific area, right, But you're right, there are

552
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: people who would still disagree with this because the folks,

553
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: again i'll call them true believers, who I think that

554
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: these explanations are okay, but they don't really encapsulate or

555
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: demystify the thing. They would say, in a lot of cases,

556
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: lights are reported from areas without these favorable conditions. And

557
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: I agree that it sounds like a set of pretty

558
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: complicated specific things. There's almost a Rube Goldberg feel to this, definitely.

559
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: But there is another explanation that was what did we

560
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: call it? It was like a quick hint at It

561
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: was a quick you were jump. It was a jump tease.

562
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: We jump teaes that guess what we're jumping in right now.

563
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: It's called fata morgana first or head first. Well, I

564
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: like to go belly, you're a flopper first. Yep, that's

565
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: generally my life just flopping after I like the flop

566
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: toots to the tanks. All right, So what's a thought

567
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: of Morgana. So this is a third hypothesis, and that's

568
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: this is that the lights are a result of optical

569
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: illusion occurring in the observer, or at least it happens

570
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: to the observer from what's happening into your eyes the

571
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: way the light enters your eyes over the horizon. Right.

572
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: The idea that the whole thing is a mirage for

573
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: swamp gas, forget some kind of earthquake based electricity. People

574
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: are just somehow making this up consistently over decades, centuries

575
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: and so on. Fata Morgana is pretty interesting, but it

576
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: has one big problem, at least in this case. So

577
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: the idea is that there has to be a thermal

578
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: inversion such that the curvature of light rays within the

579
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: inversion becomes stronger than the curvature of the earth. I

580
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: know this sounds like a lot of gobbledygook, but essentially

581
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: means the rays will bend and create arcs. So if

582
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: you are seeing this, what you're what you're seeing is

583
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: a distorted erect or inverted image. And because of the

584
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: changing nature of the atmosphere at the time of fata morgana.

585
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: This type of mirage can change within just a few seconds.

586
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: Uh so it can seem to be very dynamic. But

587
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: here's the big problem with fata morgana. What they are

588
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: most commonly seen in polar regions really so not Missouri,

589
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: not Texas. Oh Man. See, so I was banking on

590
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: this one because we're talking about humid conditions right where

591
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: you've already got some optical stuff going on, and there's

592
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: moisture in the air. You've got four miles of roughly

593
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: flat terrain that you're looking all the way down and

594
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: seeing some light way on the other end of that

595
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: four miles. And you know, if you've got lights, even

596
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: if you're way back in the day and you've got

597
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: torches during the Trail of Tears and it's way way

598
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: way down there and you've got those human conditions, you've

599
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: got that distance. I was thinking that is what would

600
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: end up happening. You could, you know, it might look larger,

601
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: it might look to be moving differently than it actually

602
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: is because of this Fata morgana. But dang it, I

603
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: really thought I was onto the figuring it out right there. Well,

604
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, don't don't dismiss entirely yet. It could be

605
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: some kind of mirage. But my issue with that is

606
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: if it were a mirage, right, if it were some

607
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: sort of optical illusion, then why would it be consistently

608
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: the same. It seems much more likely that maybe there

609
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: would be a busy road that somehow is reflecting light,

610
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: you know. But then if these are moving cars on

611
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: an interstate or a road, wouldn't that affect the behavior

612
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 1: of the light. Yeah, But if it's a smaller road,

613
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: then maybe you only have a couple of cars on

614
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: there at once. But there's usually a car, but only

615
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: a few at a time. I don't know. I mean,

616
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: the closest thing I can say that I've seen to

617
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: this sort of like this and super common is just

618
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: when it's really really hot and you're driving and like,

619
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, the street is really hot, and you kind

620
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: of see this like faint shimmering in the air right

621
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: above the horizon kind of and I think, you know,

622
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: that's that's the closest thing that like a visual disturbance

623
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: that I've personally witnessed. So, but that happens all the time,

624
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: and it all it takes is it being really hot? Yeah,

625
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: so okay, what about heat? We didn't even really talk

626
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: much about temperature. We haven't. Yeah, could the temperature be

627
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: affecting this and and that? That weird heat wave that

628
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: Noel's mentioned is something that I think we've all seen,

629
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: friends and neighbors. I mean, you can just walk out

630
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: in a hot area and look into the distance. But

631
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: would that could the heat create just heat alone create

632
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: the sustained ball of creepy light? I think anything any

633
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: true explanation for one of these, And I think you

634
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: probably have to take each one case. Yeah, I think

635
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: you probably do, because all the conditions in the different

636
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: areas are going to be slightly different. Um, But yeah,

637
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: I think maybe it's a combination. You guys. At this point,

638
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: mainstream science probably agrees with you, and Fields is adequately

639
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: explained this phenomenon through the following the following causes, or

640
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: a combination thereof naturally occurring atmospheric conditions, misidentification by eyewitnesses, right,

641
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: and so the same thing as you know, you think

642
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: it's a UFO, but it's a secret government spy plane,

643
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: still creepy, or you know the Chinese lanterns they go

644
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: up I've I have tricked myself into believing there's a

645
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: UFO with the Chinese lantern a group of Chinese lanterns.

646
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Really was it from the lantern parade or something? It

647
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: wasn't the lantern parade. It was off lantern parade time,

648
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: but it was for sure that's what it was. And then,

649
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: of course we would be remiss if we did not

650
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: mention the likelihood of purposeful hoaxes, which I still don't understand.

651
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: I guess it's this sort of hoaxing came along before

652
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: it was easy to just troll people on the internet.

653
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: A few years ago here in Georgia where the show

654
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: is based. Uh, we heard tell, as they would say

655
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Will you heard tell of someone who claimed

656
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: they have found the corpse of a sasquatch? Remember that?

657
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: And they had it in a cooler and they have

658
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: pictures of it and they said they were getting DNA analysis.

659
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: And I think it was just a gorilla costume. Is

660
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: that what it turned out to be? Yes, it definitely

661
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: wasn't a sasquatch. So we do have to at some point,

662
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: or anyone who looks into this has to at some

663
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: point acknowledge the possibility or even plausibility of someone purposefully,

664
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, pulling a fast one on friends and neighbors.

665
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Yeah, even if there is a

666
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: perfectly good explanation for one of these things, or we

667
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: can explain it away somehow through science, it doesn't make

668
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: the physical viewing of one of these things any less spooky.

669
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: Which makes me think, Uh, it would be wonderful to

670
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: see pictures of ghost lights or will of the wisps.

671
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: Would they be wills of the wisp? Yeah, they would

672
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: have to be wills will of the whisps. Wills of

673
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: the wisp? Yeah, all because each one is a different will.

674
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Can we call them? The wisp is the thing that

675
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: these are the wills of, So there would be only

676
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: one whisp is the great whisp. The individual items are

677
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: the wills of said great whisp. What if it's one

678
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: will controlling all of the will, Well, there's a will,

679
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: there's a whisp. Yes, if you are a will of

680
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: the whisper, then we would like to hear your first

681
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: hand experience, friends and neighbors. We ourselves, like anybody else,

682
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: have seen certain phenomenon that we can't completely explain right

683
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: without careful research but I don't believe we have in

684
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: this room actually seen ghost slider spooklight for ourselves. Is

685
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: that correct? I have not seen one. I have watched

686
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: tons of videos online of people showing it, and I've

687
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: seen things that were very strange. On a mountain road

688
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: in the Blue Ridge Mountains where out in the distance

689
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: it looks as though there is a light shimmering or

690
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: shining and floating a little bit, And after a little

691
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: bit of investigation, I found out that it's this specific

692
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: road that wraps around the mountain in this one way,

693
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: and when when cars go around it, for some reason,

694
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: it just looks very strange and not like headlights. And

695
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: it's true that even though different proposed explanations might sound

696
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: i don't know, highly unlikely or maybe even to a

697
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: degree condescending when people talk about misidentification, it's it's still

698
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: true that it's easy for this sort of stuff to happen. Uh.

699
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: If you believe that you have proof of a supernatural

700
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: will of the Whisp, by the way, please right to

701
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: us post haste before it gets you. I Oh, I

702
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: had one other thing I wanted to put in here

703
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: to the question about why these lights seem to retreat. Yes,

704
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: I want to know what Depending on how close people

705
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: get before the retreat occurs, is it possible that it's

706
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: a disturbance in the air of the person approaching or

707
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: from the person approaching. Interesting, I'm waiting for someone to

708
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: write in and say, that's not how air works. What

709
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: do you call someone that's an expert in an air uh?

710
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: A weatherman or or or a woman? Uh well, I

711
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: guess it would be a meteorologist the weather that yeah,

712
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: that's but whether whether men or woman is a diminutive

713
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: not mean any disrespect to the meteorological community. They're very

714
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: powerful here. You don't wanna get a big meteorology mad

715
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: at I think about it. They're only a couple of

716
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: clicks away from controlling the weather. So yeah, that's true.

717
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: And do check out our episode on weather modification while

718
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: we're While we're here, we've been talking so much about

719
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: you friends and neighbors, and we've been asking for you

720
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: to write in, and that reminds us what better time

721
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: for corner our first shout out today subject daughter of

722
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: a psychic. Hey, conspiracy dudes, I'm a new listener and

723
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: you guys have expressed some interest in psychic people. My

724
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: mom has made a few predictions in her lifetime, mostly

725
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: around death. Back in the nineties, my family went to

726
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 1: New York and we're going to visit the World Trade Center.

727
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: They're on their way to cross the bridge when my

728
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: mom starts completely freaking out, saying she doesn't want to

729
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: go and something bad is going to happen, and she's

730
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: freaking out so bad my dad asked a police officer

731
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: to help them turn around. A few weeks later, World

732
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: Trade Center blew up for the first time. Also, she

733
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: predicted the death of my grandmother. She had a dream

734
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: that my grandma was sitting at the edge of my

735
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: father's brother's coffin. He had died a few years prior.

736
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: She sat there just looking at my mom and talking

737
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: to her. When my mom woke up and asked my

738
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: dad to take her to his mom's house. By the

739
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: time they got there, she had already passed away. There's

740
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: some other stuff about how she gets bad vibes about

741
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: people and things, and I'm not a big believe in

742
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: this stuff, but I am a big believer in her predictions.

743
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: She hasn't had one in a while, but I guess

744
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Thanks for doing what you do.

745
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: Signed Elena. You know I want to say at the

746
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: very top of this reaction that I absolutely do not

747
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: care what people ascribe a bad vibe too. I would

748
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: listen to it because there's you know, there's any combination

749
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: of cues that your subconscious might pick up on that

750
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: your conscious mind does not acknowledge, and sometimes that could

751
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: translate as a bad feeling, you know, like someone just

752
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: walked over my grave, or I just shook hands with

753
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: that guy. Now it feels weird and I don't trust him.

754
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: You know, I think there's nothing wrong with following your

755
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: gut in that regard. I mean, don't don't you know,

756
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: go out and try to murder someone because you've gotta

757
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: vad vibe off of them. Yeah, but even though I mean,

758
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: like not not to oversimplify it, but haven't you ever

759
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: had I had a thing where, like you, we're thinking

760
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: about a song and then that song came on or

761
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, so I know that's like

762
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: confirmation bias or what is it where you say bad

763
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: or mine hoff syndrome or whatever, but like it is

764
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: a very very powerful feeling, you know what I mean,

765
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: And especially when you connect it with something that ultimately

766
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: does come to pass. It's it's it's very easy. Even

767
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: like something as simple is like hearing a song, you

768
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: could almost you know, your brain could very you could

769
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: very easily be convinced by your brain, which is very clever.

770
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, piece of machinery that you made that happen,

771
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: or that you somehow had for knowledge that was going

772
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: to happen, and then it was like an inclination or

773
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: something like that. I I I have never really experienced

774
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: the phenomenon in the way that she's describing like that.

775
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever really known anybody that was

776
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: just spot on repeatedly. But for me to really believe it,

777
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: I think it would have to be like repeatedly, repeatedly

778
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: and specific. Yeah. Well, you know, full disclosure I have.

779
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: It is a belief in this stuff. This widespread in

780
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: my extended family, and they will insist to you that

781
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: they have had precognitive dreams or that they have had

782
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: you know sience, Yeah, that they've had the site. It's

783
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: big in Appalachia, so my in laws are right there

784
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: with you. Oh yeah, But I would love to hear

785
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: more of these stories. I am fascinated by this yes,

786
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: please send them in if you've got them. I am too,

787
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: and I am not downplaying these stories at all. I'm

788
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: just kind of like filtering it through my own experience,

789
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: in my own jerky skeptic brain, I guess. But you know,

790
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: I have experienced things like this, but not quite this intense.

791
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: And if it was, if it had happened to me,

792
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: I might feel completely differently about him. That's true. That's true.

793
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: Now I'm now I'm going to be paying close attention

794
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: to every song I hear for the next day because

795
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: we mentioned bait or mind off. It's gonna follow me

796
00:48:52,440 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: like a curse. I used to dance alone my own valition.

797
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's Alex's favorite one too. So

798
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: thanks for writing in, Lena. We've got a We've got

799
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: a short recommendation from the been. Randall on Twitter says,

800
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff. Please call your drunken after show cons beer

801
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: se hashtag do it for the kids. What have we decided?

802
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: That's a thing. I don't think we've decided that yet, Ben,

803
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: but you know, we're um, we're definitely just trying to

804
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: decide whether we're going to record it or not. That's true.

805
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: I heard a funny Halloween beer pine last night it

806
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: was would you'd care for a Miller Frite? You know

807
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: it is, after all, the Shampain of fear. Oh. I

808
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: am so delighted. Thank you for bringing that into my life. Yeah,

809
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: my girlfriend told me that, and she she'd heard some

810
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: friends say it. I'm not going to name names, but

811
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: shout out to Jezz Press and Uh and to you

812
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: as well, Ben Randall. We have not we have not

813
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: officially decided whether we're going to foray into recording this,

814
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: but we appreciate all the suggestions that we found on Twitter.

815
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: Who you know, people asking us if we wanted to

816
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: film it. I don't know if we wanted to record it,

817
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: but I can't argue with a good pun and conspiracy

818
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: is pretty solid, So thank you the Ben Randall. Our

819
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: final shout out goes to Damon from Indiana. Damon says,

820
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: I've been listening to every podcast so far, and I

821
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: have to say it's quite the feat to get to

822
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: the newer stuff. There's just so much of it. Well,

823
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: you're welcome, Damon, and sorry, but I do also have

824
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: a suggestion for you guys to research. I don't know

825
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: how easy it would be for you to do a

826
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: topic on this due to how mysterious it is. The

827
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: Great Attractor. That's a good one, right. There are so

828
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: many speculations on what this thing could be. No one

829
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: really knows what it is other than a strange anomaly

830
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: that's pulling everything in the universe towards it. I think

831
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: it would be a cool episode. May be fun for

832
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: you guys as well. We all love looking into deep space. Agreed.

833
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to read this. Guy's

834
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: keep doing all the awesome stuff you do for all

835
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: of us listeners. Oh that's really cool. Thank you Damon

836
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: and the Great Attractor. I don't know that I know

837
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: this besides maybe a supermassive black hole. Is that what

838
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: Damon's talking about? Or is it something even bigger, some

839
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: other force. Right now, science is referring to it as

840
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: a gravitational anomaly. It's at the center of the Lana

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Speaker 1: Kia super cluster. Uh, and it has it's a localized

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Speaker 1: concentration of mass that is tens of thousands of times

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Speaker 1: more massive than the entire Milky Way. Wow, so what's

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Speaker 1: going on with that? That does sound like a great

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Speaker 1: idea for an episode. Yes, we just need to get

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Speaker 1: somebody on the phone with us or in the studio,

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Speaker 1: I think who and just go, here's the science, true

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Speaker 1: and fair enough. Thank you so much, Elena, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much the Ben Randall, and of course thank you Damon.

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Speaker 1: This concludes our but not our show. Matt Noel, super producer,

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Speaker 1: Alex and I will be back next week with some

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Speaker 1: things that might surprise you, some things that might disturb you,

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Speaker 1: but definitely hopefully fascinate you as much as they fascinate us.

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Speaker 1: So if you have any stories about ghost lights or

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Speaker 1: any other kind of paranormal activity, really we love hearing

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Anything from psychics, you know, and

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Speaker 1: maybe a premonition that somebody in your family had, or

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Speaker 1: somebody you know or maybe you had, all the way

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Speaker 1: to just a glowing red orb that appeared to you

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Speaker 1: um on top of your cat once. I want to

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Speaker 1: know about that. I think these guys do too. He'll

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Speaker 1: just tell us about your cat. We're very interested in

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Speaker 1: your cat stories, yes, especially if your cat sits on

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Speaker 1: your chest at night and tries to steal your breath.

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Speaker 1: Why you gotta make it all sinister man, Why can't

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Speaker 1: it just be about the cats or a sweet cute

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Speaker 1: little kitty cat that is only a serial murderer on

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Speaker 1: the side. As someone who is uh, as someone who

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Speaker 1: is unreasonably popular with cats, I can't say that. I

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Speaker 1: believe they are inherently sinister. I don't love them. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's a criticism. Agreed. Have you guys seen

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Speaker 1: that movie Cat People. Yeah, it's like sort of like

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Speaker 1: a skin of Max, like like softcore erotica film from

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Speaker 1: the eighties. Away, Oh, I'm you're thinking of cats. I

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Speaker 1: was thinking of Sleepwalkers that was later Cat People. I

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Speaker 1: think in Sleepwalker is very similar. They're basically about, you know,

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Speaker 1: these very sexy people in the eighties that turned into cats.

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Speaker 1: I only bring it up because we're talking about cats

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Speaker 1: and sinister things. And I recently bought the soundtrack and

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Speaker 1: it rules. It's Georgio Moroder does the score and then

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Speaker 1: got the like the Cat People. UM title track is

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Speaker 1: by David Bowie and it was featured in that scene

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Speaker 1: in Um Inglorious Bastards where the character sets a fire.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do any spoilers, but there's a really

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Speaker 1: intense Bowie track and that's totally like the theme to

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Speaker 1: Cat People start a fire. With guessole and what better

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