WEBVTT - Secrets From Tom Cruise’s Death-Defying Stunts Revealed! 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:11.080 Now really, really, now really hello, and welcome to really 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.000 know Really with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who remind 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:14.440 you there. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.160 Is absolutely no danger in subscribing, but danger abounds as 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.480 This episode could be titled Mission Insanity, as it's all 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.000 about how Tom Cruise performs his own deathifying stunts and 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.600 why he would do that, How does he train for 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.280 a stunt that's never been done before, and will he 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.760 continue to try and outdo himself now that he's in 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.599 his sixties. Today we've got the person with the answers, 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.960 Wade Eastwood, the action director and stunt coordinator for the 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.400 Mission Impossible franchise. He's the person that develops the mind 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.080 blowing stunts and oversees the training required. He also happens 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.480 to be a pilot, skydiver, rescue scuba diver, a black 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.880 belt martial artist, a boxer, a fencer, a yacht skipper, equestrian, 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.920 advanced weapons artist, and race car driver with an international 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.440 string of wins. When Tom Cruise puts his life on 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.880 the line, he does it under the supervision of Wade Eastwood. 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.119 And now here's two guys who have never done any 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.640 of those things and never will Jason and Peter. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.280 Our episode today is about Tom Kruse and the secret 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.440 behind the stunts, because the stunts are just every movie 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:21.800 he insane thing. So we wanted to know what's behind 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.880 the stunts. We got the guy right who does the 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.360 stunts with Tom, who sets him up, does them, and 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:27.920 can tell him does his own stunts? 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:28.520 Really? 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:28.640 No? 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:29.000 Really? 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:29.600 Yes? 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:30.880 And can you tell. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.920 Us the secret because there is a secret behind But 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.199 this is fascinating, going to love this. You know, before 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.080 they had talkies, they had silent films, and the Tom 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.560 Cruise of that day was Buster. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.200 Keet, Buster Keaton. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:43.959 And you look at Buster Keaton and I know, for 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:45.760 younger folks, if you don't know. 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.800 Us, please go on YouTube. But Keaton, you won't believe. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:50.400 You won't believe it. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.760 And by the way, a lot of the stunts we're 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.720 going to talk about with the stuntman, Buster Keaton did first, 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.360 or some semblance or some semblance of it. So Buster Keaton. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.880 Some of the things he did. He hung from heights 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.240 that were insane, waterfalls, ran on top of moving trains. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:10.200 But the big one was he stood in front of. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.880 A house, the flat of a house like the flat house. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.600 Which then fell over and he was saved by being 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.560 in the right position to be in the open to 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.080 be in the open window windows, small window, but this 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.799 was a four thousand pound house. Two women fainted just feeling. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.520 It because you're not seeing it. If you're listening to Thissson, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.840 you've never seen it. You got to understand you have 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.440 to be in the exact right spot. So when this 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:37.040 thing falls down towards you, it miraculously passes you through 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.440 the little hole for the window. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.600 If you're off by an inch, could have really killed him. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.320 Keaton the trick that I said to Stunt that I 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.880 said that Cruise did later jumped from a thirty five 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.600 foot rooftop to another thirty five foot rooftop right, okay, 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.480 missed and hung on right. Tom Cruise missed and broke 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.880 his eyes, and he broke his ankle on on the same. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.280 I believe, on that thing on the take. When he 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.720 broke his ankle. He then climbed under the roof and 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.560 continued to run on. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.080 The broken And what also happened, Keaton filmed underwater and 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:07.840 made sure he could see his face because he wanted 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.760 to make sure he could see his face. Tom Cruise 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.040 has done the same thing they had the developed thing. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.040 Buster Keaton didn't run around the buzz Buzz Khalifa whatever 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:16.600 that building. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.679 No, but and that's what we're going to talk about too, 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.480 jumping out of a twenty seven hundred but Hi, Bill. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.000 Have you seen It's probably one of the funniest things 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:24.519 I've ever seen. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:25.400 Have you seen. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:29.400 The video Cruise takes James Gordon? 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:31.280 Yeah? 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.960 Oh yeah, I mean there's nothing better. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:34.280 Well, you get a scare. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.080 I gotta tell you, I bow at the at the 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.360 Temple of James Gordon. You couldn't have gotten me out 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.960 of that plane for lover of money. There's no way 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.640 I'm going and you go. I know Tom Cruise knows 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.920 what he's doing. I know I'm attached to him. I 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.280 know he doesn't want to die in this moment. That's 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.160 probably the safest circumstances in which I could make that jump. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:56.120 I'm not going out. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.360 Then. Do you know how much bigger this podcast would 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.240 be if you could throw you out, if we could 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.800 throw you out of stuff, I mean stuff, Laura. And 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.800 then you got Tom Cruise jumping from berj Khalifa, which 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.280 we talked about twenty seven hundred and sixteen feet and 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.320 six inches onto the side of a flying plane from 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.360 thirty thousan hanging from side of a plane. He also 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.680 jumped from thirty thousand feet. He was the first to 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:21.640 do that kind of stunt. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.760 So we want to talk to this our stuff and 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.840 the underwater thing too, where he trained himself to hold 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.880 his breath for six and a half minutes. So let's 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.479 meet our stuff man, right, not that I'm tired of 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:35.400 talking to you, but Waide has a history. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.560 Can can I? Before you go into his history? 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.440 Can I just I'm just going to give the audience 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.480 a little bit of waves back. So an accomplished fixed 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.760 wing and helicopter pilot, a skydiver and a free flyer, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.360 which we'll talk about, a rescue scuba diver, a black 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:55.520 belt martial artist, a boxer, a fencer, and advanced weapons 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.200 scales served in the armed forces. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.480 Holds multiple don't even. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.600 Know this was a thing, multiple armored car licenses, multiple 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:06.280 multiple armored. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:06.880 Gud That's how I get you. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.840 Yeah, right, And you can drive a truck, he can 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.080 drive a bus. He raced his cars. He's one. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:20.359 But you know what with all of that, can't eat gluten? Wait, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.159 how are you man? Good to see you. I'm great. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:23.520 Thank you. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.920 So First of all, when do you have time to 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.680 do this stuff? When did you accomplish all that before 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:36.039 you became a stuntman or continued? 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:37.640 Was it all because I know you did serve in 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.279 the military. Was was a lot of that part of 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:39.960 your militaries? 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:40.120 Right? 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:41.800 No, not at all. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.440 It was just you know, growing up in South Africa 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.320 as a kid and we had you know, gorgeous weather, 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.320 and I just loved doing outdoor sports and I hated 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.039 not being able to do anything. If it was you know, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.200 someone could ride a unicycle and I couldn't. I would 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:56.960 borrow one and ride it until I could master it. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.720 And I just hated not being able to do anything 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.400 that was fun what I found fun? And yeah, it 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:03.760 was just I just love doing stuff. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.800 Well, you know what you said, he loved outdoor sports. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:13.760 I'm thinking baseball, Dennis badminton, this is comm I'm not combat. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.640 Thinking free diving I'm terrible with Let me let me. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.560 Jump off a clip and go as close to the 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.000 rocks as fast as I can. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.040 I got to understand that that's not an outdoor sport. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.520 I like to be this guy. He's fearless. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.119 Wait a minute, Hang on, are you I would because 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:31.919 I I've heard people who do what you're doing. I 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.839 bet I know where this is going to go. Do 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.080 you think of yourself as a fearless guy. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:36.599 No. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.400 I think of myself is calculated and competent. So I 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.480 train at something until I'm competent, and then I do it, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.520 and then I don't feel scared because I'm competent. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.400 I'm enjoying it. So I respect everything. 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.560 I respect the heights, I respect sport, I respect the 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.440 training process, and that's what I enjoy. I enjoy the 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.160 training process to get there, and that's part of the fun. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.640 But wait, at some point, it's something like free flying, which, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.440 if I understand correctly, we saw it in one of 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.520 the Mission Impossible films, where it's you've got a parachute, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.920 but you're moving it. It's a smaller shoot. You're moving 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.760 at very fast speed and you're really careening through obstacles, 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.480 rocks and whatnot, very close to the ground, and you're 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.559 you're boogying. So when you say, oh, I work on something, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.800 I train, I trade for it. But there seems to 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.440 me there's a leap between uh huh, I understand it. 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.920 I do these caliesthetics and now I'm going to jump 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:25.640 off the cliff. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:30.080 No stuff comes up, you go for that. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.000 So what is that There is a leap of faith 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:35.200 at some point between. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.560 The you train on a bigger wing and you train 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.720 further away from the ground, you're not flying so close, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.680 and then as you get better, you get closer to 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.480 the ground, smaller wing, faster, you know. So it's all 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.120 based on your ability obviously, like any extreme sport, you 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.760 push yourself and you get closer, and sometimes you get 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.560 too close, and you know you you're lucky enough to 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.000 break something small and not something too serious, and you 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.000 learn your level and you take it up a notch 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.600 and and you go on. But it's important, super important 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.000 for me, you know, to have an understanding of a 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.200 lot of the extreme sports and disciplines and things out there. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.320 So if I'm asking an actor, whether it's Tom Cruise 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.920 or anyone to do something, I have an understanding of 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.200 that sport and what they're doing, so I know how 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.040 far I can push them. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.840 So let's let's go to Tom Cruise. Okay, you've worked 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.640 with him for a long time and you create the stunts. 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.320 I couldn't believe how long before the stunt happens. You 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.640 create them, sometimes a year and a half before two years. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.439 You design them, you do the meal plan, you do 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.960 everything surrounding it to make sure that that the sun 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:41.000 goes okay when there's a meal plan, he doesn't. Right, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.760 You've got you've got to put people in keto diets. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.440 You've you've changed the behaviors of the people because they 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:53.240 need to do certain And now I'm out. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.000 Up until the mail plan. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.600 So as a stunt coordinator, you're coming up with the 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.160 stunt with the guys who are doing the movie. Correct, 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:00.880 you're creating this thing. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.960 So it's very much, you know, sort of a joint 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:05.560 effort on that. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.680 So when you do that, it's all He always pushes 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.560 and you always push to the next level. Do you 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.280 ever go, uh, this is not gonna we can't do this, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:16.319 it's too dangerous. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.240 Well, it's just if the movie demands it, If the 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.160 if the characters sort of curve through the storyline demands 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.640 that there's a cool piece. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.199 Of action, we'll go. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.000 There's always a way to do everything for real to 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:31.839 a degree. I mean, you know, we don't do so 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.240 the green screen, we don't fake it. But there's always 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.160 a way to do something. It's just how you do it. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.959 So you literally, I'm just gonna I want to double back. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.520 You said you never say no. You never say no. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.720 There's nothing where you go. Uh huh, We're not doing that. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:59.839 You know. You never say no. You never say no. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.160 There's nothing where you go, uh huh, We're not doing that. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:03.920 You know. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.520 I high weigh up the risk, and I assess the risk, 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.800 and then if it's too dangerous, we don't say no. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:10.559 I don't say no. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.840 I think, how can I eliminate some of that major risk? 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.880 But it's obviously still going to be dangerous. You're still 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.679 jumping off a mountain or crashing a motorbiate, whatever you're doing. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.840 But I eliminate that risk as much as I can. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.160 Can I get the person further away from the mountain 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.480 so if they have a tanglement, they're not going to 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.360 slam into the face. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.320 Can I do this? Can I do that? 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.840 And I slowly take the sort of the red risk 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.480 if you like, away, so we go into the orange 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.440 to green risk curve. The idea is to make the 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.320 stunt look visually terrifying and thrill the audiences, but it 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.040 not be quite as dangerous as it looks, that doesn't 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.760 always isn't always the case, and you know on a movie, 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.440 especially like Mission Impossible, but that's what we're aiming for. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.280 Then you're not my stunt order. I'm not using you 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.959 well because I do know verify for me. I believe Tom. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.920 How do stunt coordinator? And he said I want to 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.400 do this and the guy went, no, we can't do that. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:05.559 There's no way to do that. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.960 And he said, well, next thing I need is new 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.079 stunt coordinator. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.319 Yeah, that was I think. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.440 I think you told that story about a health a 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:13.600 health and safety guy. 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:20.760 That was a safety inspector. Well, the big one was 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.480 the motorcycle jump. You're sending Tom cruise off a cliff 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.280 on a motorcycle and I think the parachute had to 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.960 open and he had like the plus minus error was 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.320 like four seconds. I mean you're sitting there when he 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.240 takes off to do that stunt. Are you looking or 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.800 are you looking for openings for stuntman just in case? 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.000 You know what other actors I could be I could 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.000 be helping if he doesn't quite make it. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:47.400 I had my agent. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.880 It was actually you know, we trained so hard for that, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.920 and I mean We worked tirelessly with the team to 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.680 make sure that Tom was so competent that there was 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.080 no one that could actually ride a motorbicle for Cliff 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.280 and do a base jump better than Tom Cruise. And 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.000 that's sort of the level that Tom trains to, so 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.920 that's probably quite important to highlight it. Yes, it's always dangerous, 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.400 it's always a risk, it's a stunt, but he trains 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.920 to a ridiculous high level, like and he pushes himself, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.200 and his diet is perfect and his you know, his 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.920 physical himself is perfect. So you know, but I will 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.080 say when that I've done a lot of stunts. I've 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.040 been with Tom about twelve years, done a lot of movies, 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.959 over one hundred features or whatever. But when he actually 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.880 finally we got to the location, I was standing on 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.240 the edge of the ramp and I had the you know, 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.040 the little animometer check in the wind because the crosswind 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.040 was too strong in the morning. And if he went 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.040 off that ramp halfway along the ramp, he had about 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.520 a sixty foot drop down into rocks and cliffs, so 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.360 he would have he would have died or injured himself 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.280 severely before he even got to the edge of the ramp, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.960 so I was measuring the cross winds up in the 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.160 mountain and it had to be within a certain limit. 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.439 Tom was on a standby at the bottom of the 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.880 valley in the helicopter, and as soon as I gave 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.840 the go ahead, it was basically six minutes, he was 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.120 on the ramp, sitting on the bike. So as soon 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:03.959 as the cloud looked great and the shot looked great, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.600 the composition the bowl looks scary and airy, you know, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.520 and the window was right, I went go. He came 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.040 in the chop of hobver just next to the ramp. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.240 He stepped out in the hover on the bike, helmet on, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.520 and then I dropped my hand to que him. Once 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.120 all the cameras were in position. And I have to say, 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:21.920 in my thirty odd years, as I said, experience and 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.080 doing a lot of stunts with stunt men and women 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.760 and actors, a moment the bike went quiet and he dropped, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.800 and then you have the silence one one thousand and two, 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.000 one thousand and three, one thousand and his dead silence. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.320 And I got all my spots on the ground, and 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.600 they know to give me that. And it's like good canopy, 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.360 good canopy, and it was just like I could never 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.040 I could relive it a one hundred times. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.640 It was, well, wait, are you or anybody when he's 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:47.559 doing the stunt? 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.160 Does he have an earpiece? Is anybody in his ear 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:51.560 to go? Tom? 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.439 Maybe this, maybe that? Or is he just he's got 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.480 to be in the zone. He's with himself and that's it. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:56.560 He's in the zone. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.040 He's got to meet his exact speed, he's got to 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:00.800 hold the bike for an exact amount of time that 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.360 we'd rehearsed with you know, cables in a quarry before, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.760 and so he got the maximum performance and it's not 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:07.160 the hottest. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:08.360 The best thing to describe with. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.120 Tom and Mission Impossible movies is, you know, it's easy 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.760 to go out and do a YouTube objective style shot, 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.679 go out there and put some you know, drones up there, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.520 a helicopter and some cameras and get a great stunt. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.600 But to capture the emotion and the character during the stunt, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.720 get the cameras in the place to see him and 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.080 Tom to play it, you know, thinking about the light 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.000 playing the character of I've got to land on this 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.480 train and I've got to do this because the rest 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.880 of my team are in trouble and making my face 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.400 read that as an actor hold the bike for that 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.280 little bit too long with the audience like, oh my god, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.120 oh my god, let go at the right time and 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.920 then count before you hit the ground. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.240 I read somewhere about in fight scenes, it's just standard 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.880 fight scenes that every guy fight. 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.720 Every character fights differently. So I'm trying to. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:59.680 Think of, you know what, like in Mission Impossible, he's Ethan. 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.920 In Reacher, he was Reacher, how would he fight? What's 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.760 how do they fight differently? Isn't it just make a 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.640 really cool fight? How does how does Ethan fight? 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.800 So we can't change Ethan style because we've seen Mission 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.240 Impossible one, two, three, four, five, you know, So all 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.000 we do is we try and evolve as we introduce 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.600 other characters, Like you know, in fall Out, we had 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.400 Liang in the bathroom with Henry Cavill, who were amazing, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.880 and Henry was a bruiser and we had him as 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.560 a boxer, so that shooted his style. Leang is a 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.040 wushoe champion who works for me a lot and is 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.800 just an incredible the way he moves. So but Tom 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.480 can't suddenly become a wushoe artist or you know, a 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.280 more tail he's because we all know his style. He's got, 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.320 you know, his mixed styles and his elbows and a 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.560 bit of casey, and so we have to try and 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.480 evolve that style, but stay within the Ethan character. Whereas 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.000 when he's a reacher or he's something else, we can 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:50.760 have a bit more free reign with that. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.880 Right, you know, I've also read and maybe we can 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.560 confirm it. But Tom has been you know, he's gotten 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.120 actors to push themselves, right, And I'm thinking about there's 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.920 this great story about de Niro and Charles Groden when 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.480 they were doing Midnight Run and they had to they 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.440 had to ride down the rapids. They were in the 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.680 in the water they had to fall into. They jump 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.520 into the rapids and they have to ride it through 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.720 and Groden looks at it and goes, I'm not gonna 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.480 do that. I'm not doing that. There's no way I'm 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.320 doing that. And and and you know you gotta do 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.320 it to us. It's come on, it's nothing to I'm 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.360 gonna go first, you go right after me. There's nothing 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.880 to it. It's you can do it. It's great. And 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.120 de Niro goes in, rides the rapids, comes out at 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.160 the end of the shot, and the first thing he says. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.680 Is, I don't I don't think Charlie. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:37.880 Should do this. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.120 I don't think should do this? Does I mean does 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:42.680 does Tom? 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.720 I know Tom a scintilla and I and I am 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.680 so impressed with him when he goes and pushes another 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.920 actor like, uh uh was it Rebecca Ferguson who's in 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.480 the car with him, Hayleette? 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.640 Well, I'm so sorry. So does she have to be. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.800 Co worse into believing that Tom can take her on 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.160 this ride without hurting her? 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.640 Yeah, you know, it's it's it's conditioning. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.640 So like with all the casts, and that's where Tom 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.840 and I are work on it together. So it's actually, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.040 you know, on the physical sides of my wife's part. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:18.440 Of the program. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.520 She does all the all the nutrition and the training 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.600 and the food and you know, so she gets there 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.560 sort of gets all the actors in shape so that 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.040 I can try and break them, you know. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:28.600 I see, that's that's whatever. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:29.600 She's a good team. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:32.480 Tom and I try and break him. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.840 So it's all about really conditioning because they've they would 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.520 have come out of a dramatic role or a different 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.880 type of movie, a smaller action movie or a movie 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.199 that didn't demand them doing so much. But you know, 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.840 Tom wants to shoot everything subjectively so we can stay 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.000 with the character and not cheat to a wide shod 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.880 or and over shoulder of a double doing it, which 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.240 takes you out of the character, you know, you know, briefly, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.399 especially if you're in a highly emotionally connected scene. So 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.560 not with everything. But like with Haiti, for example, she 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.280 hadn't driven. So that starts with Hailey coming in and 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.560