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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Psychology of Your Twenties,

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk through some of the big

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Speaker 1: life changes and transitions of our twenties and what they

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Speaker 1: mean for our psychology. Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast. New listeners, old listeners, Wherever

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Speaker 1: you are in the world, it is so great to

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Speaker 1: have you here. Thank you for deciding to tune in.

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Speaker 1: This week's episode is essential listening for everyone in their twenties,

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Speaker 1: or really whatever age you are right now, wherever you

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Speaker 1: are in your life. It is such an important concept,

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Speaker 1: such an important topic, and it's also been a long

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Speaker 1: time coming, something I'm personally really fascinated by but also

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Speaker 1: excited to be able to share and discuss. Here, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the process of nurturing and healing our inner child,

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Speaker 1: or reparenting ourselves, healing attachment wounds by connecting with our

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Speaker 1: childlike wonder our childlike curiosity and innocence. So you may

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Speaker 1: be wondering this is a podcast dedicated to people in

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Speaker 1: the twenties. Why are we talking about childhood that's already happened,

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Speaker 1: that's in the past. But reconnecting with your inner child

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Speaker 1: is a fundamental task that I believe every single one

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Speaker 1: of us has to do at some point in our lives,

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Speaker 1: and we may as well start now. I think many

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Speaker 1: of us do not take the time to really consider

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Speaker 1: how our early life experiences have changed and altered us

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Speaker 1: and made us who we are, and that whatever has

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Speaker 1: happened in our lives, whether you've been hurt you know,

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Speaker 1: whether you feel all these obligations to do things, whatever

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Speaker 1: society has convinced you, whatever society has told you about yourself,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, at our core, there

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Speaker 1: is still this tiny, innocent, vulnerable, joyful version of us

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Speaker 1: that really does deserve to be nurtured and to feel

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Speaker 1: safe and realizing that can be really life changing and

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Speaker 1: I think a massive step in our self discovery and

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Speaker 1: kind of self healing and self growth journey. Before we

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Speaker 1: think that this idea of inner child work. It's been

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Speaker 1: floating around across a lot of platforms like TikTok and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I see things about it all the time, and I

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Speaker 1: think with that comes a lot of confusion, would say,

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Speaker 1: and misinterpretations of the true science and psychology behind this phenomena.

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Speaker 1: Often when we see psychology kind of converted onto places

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Speaker 1: like TikTok, when we see it converted into fast media,

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Speaker 1: the concepts kind of lose some of their validity because

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Speaker 1: you know, it's social media, and we're increasingly skeptical of

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Speaker 1: some of the content that we see on those platforms.

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Speaker 1: So if you're listening to this, being like this sounds

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Speaker 1: like a little bit crazy, This doesn't sound particularly scientific,

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Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. But when it comes

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Speaker 1: to healing out in a child, even the existence of

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Speaker 1: our inner child, this is very much a real thing.

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Speaker 1: It has an evidence base behind it. Many psychologists have

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Speaker 1: established the entire careers on this idea and on learning

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Speaker 1: more about this connection between our adult selves and our

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Speaker 1: childhood selves on an unconscious level. So I really want

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Speaker 1: to dispel some of that ambiguity today and also provide

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Speaker 1: we're going to discuss the origins of this concept, where

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Speaker 1: we mean when we talk about our inner child, and

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Speaker 1: why it is such a crucial aspect of our identity.

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Speaker 1: Part of that conversation is also some of the wounds

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Speaker 1: that we do carry from childhood. Maybe you've heard of

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Speaker 1: this space. Of course, we're going to dissect some of

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Speaker 1: the benefits of reparenting ourselves, and of course how we

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Speaker 1: can do this, from the big practices like psychotherapy, to

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Speaker 1: just nurturing our innate playfulness, listening to music from our childhood,

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Speaker 1: amazing differences in how we treat ourselves and how we

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Speaker 1: that impacts our daily decisions. So Yung he had this idea,

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Speaker 1: impacts our decisions, how we act without us really consciously knowing.

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Speaker 1: We all possess this in a version of ourselves no

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Speaker 1: matter who you are, and like actual children, these inner

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Speaker 1: child archetypes are different. Some of us have a wounded

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Speaker 1: essentially explained that all of our adult dysfunctions. All of

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Speaker 1: experiences that have made us who we are. That's kind

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Speaker 1: initial conception has evolved a lot since then, especially as

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Speaker 1: we begun to understand more about the developmental milestones of

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Speaker 1: We begin to learn our most basic emotions within a

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Speaker 1: crucial where most of our hurt comes from. It's going

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Speaker 1: In psychology and even philosophy, there is this idea that

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Speaker 1: And sometimes those childhood experiences they aren't always positive, and

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Speaker 1: No matter what you've been through, though there's nothing that

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Speaker 1: can remove that inner version of you, the inner child remains.

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Speaker 1: They're always there, and they're the ones that have experienced

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Speaker 1: all of those things that have made us who we are.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones who hold our emotions, who hold our memories,

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Speaker 1: our beliefs, our hopes, our dreams. This incredible article from

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Speaker 1: a psychiatrist out of the US explained it beautifully. Our

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Speaker 1: foundational experiences that we had as children. In a child work,

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Speaker 1: involves time, it involves energy, but it also involves creating

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Speaker 1: And there are a couple ways that we can do that,

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Speaker 1: some of which are more valid or evidence based than others.

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Speaker 1: But before you jump right in, I think it's important

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Speaker 1: to understand what kind of childhood or inner child wound

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Speaker 1: misconceptions around this type of work, around this type of

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Speaker 1: healing is that it's only reserved for those with really

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Speaker 1: intense familial and relational trauma. And there's no doubt that

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Speaker 1: in those cases it's highly beneficial. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: what we may suppress and see as minor, or we

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Speaker 1: let me tell you, the absolute delight that brought me

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Speaker 1: was insane. I could just feel baby Gemma being so happy,

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Speaker 1: feeling so nurtured, so looked after. And we can create

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Speaker 1: that feeling for ourselves. So maybe you're not a big

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Speaker 1: fan of orange slices or board games, but what are

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Speaker 1: some of the ways that we cannot only recognize our

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Speaker 1: inner child, but nurture them, love them, heal them, and

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Speaker 1: allow that part of us to live on in how

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Speaker 1: we treat ourselves and how we treat others. Staying in

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Speaker 1: tune with your inner child's presence. It all begins with acknowledgement.

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Speaker 1: You cannot have a relationship with this version of you

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Speaker 1: if you don't acknowledge that it exists, or you choose

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Speaker 1: to stay ignorant to its influence. Kim Eagle, a therapist

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Speaker 1: in the US. She made this amazing point in an

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Speaker 1: article she wrote on this, and I think it's so

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Speaker 1: important to share here. Anyone can get in touch with

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Speaker 1: their inner child if they're open to exploring this relationship.

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Speaker 1: If you feel doubtful or resistant to this idea of

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Speaker 1: exploring the past, if you feel doubtful that this version

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Speaker 1: of you even still exists, you're going to have a

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Speaker 1: harder time beginning the healing process. I think a great

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Speaker 1: place to start is to reconnect with the things that

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Speaker 1: remind you of the childhood version of yourself and take

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Speaker 1: note of how exposure to these things makes you feel.

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Speaker 1: For example, the other day, I watched the Hannah Montana movie.

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Speaker 1: I know, huge throwback, but that movie was released when

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Speaker 1: I was nine years old and I was obsessed with it.

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Speaker 1: I was a massive Miley Syrus fan. I loved that movie.

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Speaker 1: I memorized all the songs I brought clothes like Miley Cyrus.

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Speaker 1: I think I've watched that movie like in the cinema

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Speaker 1: four times, and rewatching it at twenty three made me

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Speaker 1: so incredibly emotional, but also aware of the childhood version

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Speaker 1: of myself. That positive reaction reminded me that she existed,

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Speaker 1: because those emotions I was experiencing, they were derived from

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Speaker 1: memories of that time. They were derived from the joy

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Speaker 1: that baby Gemma, childhood Gemma had for that movie, the

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Speaker 1: memories that she had made, and that moment, that wonder,

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Speaker 1: that emotion of rewatching something that meant so much to

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Speaker 1: me as a child. That emotion wouldn't have occurred if

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Speaker 1: those memories didn't already exist, and if she hadn't existed

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Speaker 1: and been feeling those exact same things at some point

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Speaker 1: in time. If you're feeling detached from your inner child,

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Speaker 1: try and recreate moments and memories from childhood to reorientate

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Speaker 1: your current conscious version of you and your former subconscious

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Speaker 1: version of you, your childhood version of you. That can

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Speaker 1: be aided like things like smell and sound and sight.

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Speaker 1: Activity is like watching a classic movie, cooking your favorite

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Speaker 1: childhood meal, or reading your favorite childhood book. Because our

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Speaker 1: memories are strongest when they're tied to multiple senses, so

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Speaker 1: you'll be amazed by how much your mind and body

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Speaker 1: responds to these experiences from a procedural an unconscious place,

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Speaker 1: and how in touch you feel with that former version

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Speaker 1: of you. The other tip I have, and I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: many of us have heard of this before, but change

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Speaker 1: your phone background to a photo of your childhood self

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Speaker 1: right now. Do it right now, Ask your mum, ask

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Speaker 1: your grandma, your aunt for a photo of you when

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Speaker 1: you were five or six years old, and make that

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Speaker 1: the first thing you see every day. I have a

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Speaker 1: photo of me like when I was in fourth grade,

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Speaker 1: and next to my computer at home, and anytime I'm

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Speaker 1: working or getting stressed out at my job, I just

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Speaker 1: looked to my left and I'm reminded that everything I'm

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Speaker 1: putting myself through, everything i'm doing, I'm also doing to

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Speaker 1: her and with that version of me, with that little

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Speaker 1: baby version of me. Be proud of me right now?

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Speaker 1: Is this what her dream was? Would she be happy

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Speaker 1: with where we are now? Would she be happy with

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Speaker 1: what we're doing? And it really puts your decisions and

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Speaker 1: your treatment of yourself into perspective. And I found that

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Speaker 1: it's made me a lot more gentle in my self judgment.

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Speaker 1: Other things I find really useful. I've said this before,

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Speaker 1: but like engaging in play. You know, go and play

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Speaker 1: tag every once in a while, pull out those Monopoly

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Speaker 1: or Uno cards. Make yourself like a really big chocolate Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Buy yourself something I don't know, ridiculously fluffy, just because

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Speaker 1: you want to pretend that you are taking the little

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Speaker 1: version of you out for like the best day ever

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Speaker 1: and give them everything that they would have wanted. Then

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Speaker 1: buy them ridiculous candy that is just full of sugar

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Speaker 1: and looks disgusting, but your inner child wants it. Sing

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Speaker 1: along to your favorite songs, feel joyful, Go and look

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Speaker 1: at children's books in the bookstore. It's a great step

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Speaker 1: towards healing through acknowledgement of that past version of you.

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Speaker 1: I think this really links with the next step to

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Speaker 1: healing and connecting with your inner child, and that is

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Speaker 1: to put your acknowledgement into practice. Being aware of your

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Speaker 1: inner child is one thing. Being in touch with them

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Speaker 1: and giving yourself the space to be vulnerable and to

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Speaker 1: nurture them is another. The biggest impact this relationship or

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Speaker 1: journey has brought to my adult life is the way

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Speaker 1: I now speak to myself and the way that I

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Speaker 1: honor my emotions and my feelings. I think we all

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Speaker 1: have this tendency to be very hard on ourselves, to

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Speaker 1: say things to ourselves that we would never imagine saying

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Speaker 1: to someone else, mean things, hurtful things that is terrible

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Speaker 1: for our self worth and our identity, but also a

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Speaker 1: hard habit to break out of. Being in touch with

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Speaker 1: your inner child is really useful for that when you

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Speaker 1: find that you've failed, when you've been rejected, when you

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Speaker 1: feel unhappy with yourself, take note of your inner dialogue

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Speaker 1: and imagine that your five year old self is sitting

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Speaker 1: in front of you right now and you're saying those

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Speaker 1: things to them. You wouldn't yell at your childhood version

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Speaker 1: of you. You wouldn't yell at your five year old

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Speaker 1: version of yourself. You wouldn't call them fat, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: tell them they're useless. You wouldn't tell them that they're

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Speaker 1: worthless or they're stupid. So why would you say those

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Speaker 1: things to yourself now? Once you acknowledge that that version

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Speaker 1: of you is still within you, it completely changes your

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Speaker 1: perspective and the same goes for how you let others

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Speaker 1: treat you. If you wouldn't let someone treat a child

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Speaker 1: the way that your friends, or your partner, or your

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Speaker 1: parents or your colleagues treat you, then a boundary needs

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Speaker 1: to be put in place. Obviously, we have more emotional

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Speaker 1: maturity at this age than we did as children, so

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Speaker 1: someone offering you constructive criticism or asking you to do

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Speaker 1: your job or to be independent that may seem intense

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Speaker 1: for a child, but acceptable for an adult. I think

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Speaker 1: it goes without saying that healing your inner child isn't

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Speaker 1: about regressing to that version of you. It's about being

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Speaker 1: better at acknowledging how people and situations make you feel,

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Speaker 1: where that reaction may have come from, and how can

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Speaker 1: properly respond to that from a place of maturity, but

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Speaker 1: also acknowledging your own emotions. I want to leave you

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Speaker 1: with a few final strategies and practices that you can

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Speaker 1: integrate into your life that have been shown to really

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Speaker 1: improve how people emotionally connect with themselves by connecting with

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Speaker 1: a vision of their younger selves. First, firstly, do something creative.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we were children, we used to have

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Speaker 1: art class as part of our curriculum. You know, you

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Speaker 1: remember I used to have like a period every couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks where you would go and just make art

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Speaker 1: all the time, and you'd wear your little smocks. We

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Speaker 1: don't always have time to do that as we get older,

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Speaker 1: we don't always make the time to do that. But

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Speaker 1: we can integrate that if we make it a priority,

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Speaker 1: If we make it a priority to heal and connect

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Speaker 1: with that inner version of us. Go to a life

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Speaker 1: drawing class, go to a pottery class, take up knitting,

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Speaker 1: by coloring books, any of those things. A study from

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Speaker 1: the journal Frontiers in Psychology. They published this article in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen that found that art, doing something creative it

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Speaker 1: improves health and well being amongst basically every individual who

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Speaker 1: was studied. It promoted resilience, It promoted coping skills, and

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Speaker 1: overall happiness levels. But it's something we don't always do

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Speaker 1: as adults. So it's a way of reconnecting with that

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Speaker 1: inner childlike wonder to bring happiness to the adult version

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Speaker 1: of you, to your adult life. The second thing is

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Speaker 1: to be messy. Mess is so acceptable in childhood, but

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Speaker 1: not so much in adulthood. Find a way to let

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Speaker 1: yourself step out of the constraints of always needing to

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Speaker 1: be clean and tidy and put together. You know, cook

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Speaker 1: with rash abandoned, make a mess, read pots and plants,

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Speaker 1: get your hands dirty. It's good for your neurons, it's

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Speaker 1: good for your synaptic connections and growth, and it's good

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Speaker 1: for your happiness. This one was really sweet, and when

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Speaker 1: I read it, I was like, this is gorgeous. I

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Speaker 1: want to integrate this into my life. Hug yourself. I

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Speaker 1: know it sounds really really strange, and we often think

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Speaker 1: that we need to receive physical touch from others, which

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Speaker 1: is very much true, but any form of being touched

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Speaker 1: really does release a lot of oxytocin, which is otherwise

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Speaker 1: known as the happiness or pleasure hormone, and we can

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Speaker 1: release that ourselves. Our brain can't always tell the difference

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Speaker 1: between someone giving you a big hug and you're just

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00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: wrapping your arms around yourself. I know it sounds really silly,

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Speaker 1: but do it now. Put your arms around yourself and

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00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: hold there, squeeze yourself in. It will immediately make you

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Speaker 1: feel better, and it's also a great way to practice

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Speaker 1: self love as well as healing your inner child. Two

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Speaker 1: for one, What a great deal. Finally, in order to

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Speaker 1: reparent ourselves, we need to show ourselves that we are

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Speaker 1: a responsible parent for our inner child, that we can

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Speaker 1: be independent and can take care of ourselves. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that we can't accept help from others, but it

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Speaker 1: does mean being able to meet your own needs. Do

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Speaker 1: something nice for yourself, Eat food that is going to

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Speaker 1: make you feel good, take yourself outdoors, see the sun,

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Speaker 1: make sure you get good rest, find time to socialize.

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Speaker 1: The same things that you would do for a real

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Speaker 1: life child, you need to do for yourself. And I

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Speaker 1: think it helps our brain really learn that we are

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Speaker 1: not helpless or vulnerable. The childhood versions of us may

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Speaker 1: still feel, We're not in that wounded place anymore. We're adults. Now,

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Speaker 1: we're responsible and we can look out for ourselves. We

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Speaker 1: can take care of that little version of us who

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Speaker 1: needed someone else to take care of them, and we

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Speaker 1: can put ourselves on a really fantastic path. I hope

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Speaker 1: this episode was really useful for those of you out

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Speaker 1: there who are considering doing some inner child work and

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Speaker 1: some inner child healing. I know that it sounds a

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Speaker 1: little bit ridiculous, but as someone who really prioritizes this,

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Speaker 1: as someone who's done the research, looked into the science.

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Speaker 1: It's incredibly valuable. It's also incredibly invalid, and I would

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Speaker 1: really recommend it. Think about how you can integrate those

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Speaker 1: daily practices into your life. Think about how you can

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00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: take a moment during the week to just be a

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Speaker 1: little bit silly, to just push back a little bit

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Speaker 1: on the sponsibilities and seriousness of adulthood. And when you

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Speaker 1: have the time, when you have more time, really dive

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Speaker 1: into why you are the person you are today. What

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Speaker 1: was it about what you've experienced as a child that

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Speaker 1: has created you. I think it's really really valuable, and

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Speaker 1: you'll find that once you really take the time to

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Speaker 1: do that, once you really put in the energy and

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Speaker 1: the vulnerability and the effort, you'll see that your entire

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Speaker 1: outlook and the way you treat yourself and the way

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Speaker 1: you treat others and the way you treat life, it

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Speaker 1: completely changes for the better. So I know that sounds

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Speaker 1: like a bit of a rant, but it is just

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Speaker 1: really something I believe in so deeply, and I hope

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Speaker 1: that this encourages you to give it a go as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. If you did enjoy

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Speaker 1: this episode and you think someone else would benefit from it,

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