WEBVTT - "Awards Shows" w/ Peaches

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast starts now.

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<v Speaker 2>Just kidding we trecked you as we have another amazing

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<v Speaker 2>announcement about upcoming shows and I am not going to

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<v Speaker 2>sugarcoat it. If you're in London, you can see me

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<v Speaker 2>George Severs at the Soho Theater on February twenty fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>The February twenty third show is sold out for the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourth still has some tickets.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I Sam, I'm doing an Hour in LA

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<v Speaker 3>three times on March ninth, March twenty fourth, and April first.

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<v Speaker 3>Get tickets to that as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you are in New York City there are

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<v Speaker 4>actually quite a few opportunities to see us. We will

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<v Speaker 4>be doing a Stradio Lab live show at the Bellhouse.

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<v Speaker 4>We are returning home to the Bell House, and that

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<v Speaker 4>is on March thirteenth, Friday the third teenth, at seven

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<v Speaker 4>thirty at the Bell House.

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<v Speaker 3>And then in NYC, I Sam, I'm doing my Hour

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<v Speaker 3>on the eighteenth at Union Hall, getting a bit intimate

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<v Speaker 3>with it nights.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me being British as kind of my thing. Sans

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<v Speaker 1>MA shows are at London.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, if you are in London, New York City

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<v Speaker 2>or Los Angeles, California, you have various opportunities to see

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<v Speaker 2>us either together or separately.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is all we have for now. Cheers.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast starts now, and Happy Monday, Happy Monday to all,

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<v Speaker 3>Happy post Golden Globes Day to all of Hollywood. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, who knows when this will be coming out,

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<v Speaker 3>but when we are recording, it is the day after.

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<v Speaker 1>After the Golden Globes, which George did. I'll say it

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<v Speaker 1>was there. I was there.

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<v Speaker 5>I was not despite being employed by actually the Golden

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<v Speaker 5>Globes organization to Clark Productions, I was not able to

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<v Speaker 5>attend the actual show. I was in the overflow room

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<v Speaker 5>for various amazing publicism producers and the people that keep

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<v Speaker 5>this town running.

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<v Speaker 3>Folks, Well, I think it's good that you weren't the

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<v Speaker 3>main show, because I agree, what would I just look

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<v Speaker 3>forward to?

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I hadn't eaten all day and I

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<v Speaker 5>was trying to like find a block of cheese to

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<v Speaker 5>eat while like like influencers are doing photo shoots and

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<v Speaker 5>people were Do you know when you feel like legitimately invisible,

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<v Speaker 5>like people are walking into you. Yeah, it was sort

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<v Speaker 5>of amazing if it was like it actually felt like

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<v Speaker 5>Zen Buddhism in that I was like, oh, here, I

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<v Speaker 5>am invisible, despite the fact that I was in the

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<v Speaker 5>least zen Buddhist place of all, which is a room

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<v Speaker 5>full of kind of vultures and vampires. Yeah, it actually

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<v Speaker 5>was such an out of body experience that I felt

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<v Speaker 5>at peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's lovely. I have a question.

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<v Speaker 3>So, when you're like working at an event like that, huh,

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<v Speaker 3>do you transition into sort of employee mode, like sort

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<v Speaker 3>of get pitiful. Whenever I'm in a space like that

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<v Speaker 3>and working, I get pitiful quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I see what you're saying. Hmm. Or are you

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm taking up my space?

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 5>I think my general plan is act like you belong,

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<v Speaker 5>but don't make yourself known. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 5>at any point looking around as though I'm lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, even if I don't know where I'm going, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>power you're walking fast, somebody to know where the bathroom was.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just started walking in a random direction, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, well if I just keep walking because

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<v Speaker 5>we were like I bumped into walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn right like a sim Yeah, I'll eventually find it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you don't know where you're going. Where I'm going,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, you know, I saw a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of celebs. Yeah, were your starstruck? I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>I was much more starstruck this morning meeting our guest

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<v Speaker 1>than I was meeting anyone I met.

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<v Speaker 5>Well name and it actually really and we will bring

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<v Speaker 5>her in and I feel we're talking about her while

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<v Speaker 5>she's in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's something she walked in. I was like, finally

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<v Speaker 1>an artist. I call these losers. It was like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like what.

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<v Speaker 3>I kept talking to people that were completely normal, and

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<v Speaker 3>then someone will come up to him be like, did

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<v Speaker 3>you know that's so? And so I'm like, okay, well

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<v Speaker 3>could have fooled me because you look like a normal girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the thing about actors is they're like literally

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<v Speaker 3>just like falling into things. But you're like, wait, so

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<v Speaker 3>you're famous, it's you just stumbled into that. You just like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're really handsome.

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<v Speaker 1>One day. At least act how do I put this?

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<v Speaker 5>At least actors look like celebrities sort of bad musicians

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<v Speaker 5>like tiktoki, bad musicians.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, just normal people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something crazy like I'm like, where's the star power?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's it?

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<v Speaker 5>I can't imagine you, you know, eating a bat on

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<v Speaker 5>stage or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like where's the punk rock? Right right right, right

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<v Speaker 1>right right.

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<v Speaker 5>So anyway, I I was proud of myself for not.

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<v Speaker 1>Being more starstruck.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Okay, I have some soul left, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, to me, you guys are normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was just pushing aside Amanda Stafer. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, you're in my way. Did you plug the

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<v Speaker 1>pod at all? Or were you like to come like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to come on?

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, that's see, that's I will never succeed in this

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<v Speaker 5>industry because no. I literally was like, I forget I

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<v Speaker 5>was there. I forgot I'm in any way involved in

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<v Speaker 5>the entertainment industry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why people kept being like, so what do you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like I don't. I don't and someone like nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't lose.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, I wrote for I wrote for

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<v Speaker 3>Marybeth on the Carpet.

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<v Speaker 5>And then someone goes, are you a are you a

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<v Speaker 5>writer outside of that? And I literally didn't know how

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<v Speaker 5>to answer. It's like, the answer is yes, yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a professional writer.

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<v Speaker 1>I get paid for it. But I didn't. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done some writing in the past. It's humiliating. I

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<v Speaker 1>turned into that so bad, I get like sniveling. It's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to bring in our gut, We need to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in our guest. It is such a true honor.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm buzzing. I'm buzzing. Please to the podcast Peaches. Oh hi, but.

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<v Speaker 7>There wasn't one person that you were star struck about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let you know what, thank you call him out.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh listen, when Julia Roberts walked by, you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>grow up like that's someone that has been America sweethearts

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<v Speaker 5>since we were kids. Obviously I was, I was starstruck.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing is, I don't think I said this

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<v Speaker 5>to you earlier. But like my specific job there was

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<v Speaker 5>on the carpet itself, so I legitimately saw every single person,

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<v Speaker 5>like I probably saw two hundred famous people, and so

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<v Speaker 5>you get desensitized so.

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<v Speaker 1>Fast like I. So, you know, you turn around at

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<v Speaker 1>some point you see I don't know, Leonardo DiCaprio or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like the tenth famous person in thirty seconds

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<v Speaker 1>that you've seen in just to sort of like all right,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it moving.

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<v Speaker 6>But you don't because you don't hear what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you get them because like if they said

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<v Speaker 6>something that should actually like pique your interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well that did happen to me and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to redact the names. But an A list actress I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to her okay actor walks in.

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<v Speaker 5>She goes, oh, here comes so and so he's gay.

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<v Speaker 7>What does that mean? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>She meant that he was actually gay or she was

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<v Speaker 5>making a joke. I sort of had this theory and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe this is my only sexist. I had this theory

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<v Speaker 5>that maybe he like had rejected her in the past,

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<v Speaker 5>and so she had some like foranity like.

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<v Speaker 7>I still like him.

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<v Speaker 3>But the tone I was like, you're kookie, Well that's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to so I thought that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I did you know, I think it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just like, see, I was on Okay, I

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<v Speaker 6>was playing charades with a bunch of people, which is

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<v Speaker 6>funny with Germans who are not funny, and one person

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<v Speaker 6>was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know this band. You know they're cool, but

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<v Speaker 7>you know they're gay, And I was just like.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, Oh you thought they were using

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<v Speaker 1>it like the derogatory way.

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<v Speaker 7>I just didn't understand what it means. What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Like you know they're they're so cool to get like

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<v Speaker 6>it was some kind of like crutch or some kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like I don't know, so I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's kind of like, okay, so what is that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's interesting is just the idea of this

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<v Speaker 1>like elegant actress in like a beautiful dress, seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>guy walk in and being like the wort.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, Okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It shows like a weird immaturity.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that was the most quote unquote interesting

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<v Speaker 5>thing about it is seeing people let down the hair

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit and be because they're like among their

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<v Speaker 5>own kind, like be gossiping.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that's what they do. I know, I thought

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<v Speaker 6>they do gossip. I know, anyone strategically gossiping.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything too drunk the win. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't know if you feel this way

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<v Speaker 3>in the music world, but like I do think people,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's phones everywhere, have gotten very worried about seeming

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<v Speaker 3>out of control in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that does make things like that less interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. I didn't see anyone. I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there were people doing drugs and stuff and not in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me. But I feel like I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>a few like twenty years ago, I would have been

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<v Speaker 1>seeing people do lines at the after party.

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<v Speaker 7>Right right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they didn't like go in the bathroom and make

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<v Speaker 6>that a thing like you and then you feel left

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<v Speaker 6>out because they didn't invite you. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 6>then you say okay once and then they're like come, come, come,

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<v Speaker 6>mad that's gone, and then you.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't want to again and then they're like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 7>leave me.

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<v Speaker 6>Hind totally, it's like this whole game, Like it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>they like become mad at you. Yeah, they're mad at

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<v Speaker 6>you because you're not doing enough or you don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to do it at all or oh okay, then you're out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's like but it's like I remember, I was

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<v Speaker 6>a person just put it on the table. They made

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<v Speaker 6>lines for everyone and they were like do it or not,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think like not that I care, but it

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<v Speaker 7>was I care that they.

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<v Speaker 6>Try and make it so secretive, secretive, and that it's

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<v Speaker 6>like that's that's their little thing, like that's gonna like

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<v Speaker 6>bring us together totally.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the whole point of I don't know, you would

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<v Speaker 3>think the whole point of partying in substances is like

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<v Speaker 3>to be inclusive in some way.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, but it's all like I didn't, you didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's to find new levels of exclusions because first

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<v Speaker 3>you have to get in. Then you have to get

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<v Speaker 3>into the bathroom with these two people. Yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>extra extra VIP.

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<v Speaker 7>It's funny because there's there's in Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>I start to say these things.

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<v Speaker 7>No, but it's just cute. They have like they have.

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<v Speaker 6>A room and everybody knows that's the room where you

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<v Speaker 6>want to If you want to do that, you go

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<v Speaker 6>in there.

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<v Speaker 7>If you don't, you don't have to see it. But

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<v Speaker 7>it's open, like to go in there.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to ask you about Berlin because you mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>something which is of course the universal truth, which is

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<v Speaker 5>that Germans are not funny. You are very funny, which

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to get into because we want to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about the new album. My sister lives in Germany. I've

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<v Speaker 5>spent time in Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with that?

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<v Speaker 7>It's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with that?

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<v Speaker 6>It's really funny because it's just like sometimes you wonder

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<v Speaker 6>if it's like English is a second language, because you

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<v Speaker 6>know which is not fair because I'm not learning German

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<v Speaker 6>even though I'm there for so long. But if it's

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<v Speaker 6>English as a second language, or they just can't let

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<v Speaker 6>themselves go, they're just like oh no, or they don't

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<v Speaker 6>get it, or there's this sort of like a cultural

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<v Speaker 6>history with certain words that that that that feed into

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<v Speaker 6>each other or in North America that they just don't get.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish I could like cite a perfect example right now,

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<v Speaker 6>but I I cannot think about it. But what they

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<v Speaker 6>used to have this commercial like a long time ago

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<v Speaker 6>on which I thought was pretty funny for Germans. They

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<v Speaker 6>were it was talking about learn English and it was

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<v Speaker 6>a commercial and in the commercial there's guys in a

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<v Speaker 6>submarine and they're like sinking and they're like.

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<v Speaker 7>Help help, we're sinking.

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<v Speaker 6>We're sinking Their Americans we're sinking, and the Germans asking

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<v Speaker 6>like what are you thinking about?

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<v Speaker 7>But I thought that.

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<v Speaker 6>They love like slapstick humor, which is really like bass immature,

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<v Speaker 6>like whoa Somebody Fell, which is so funny.

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<v Speaker 7>Because they hide themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>They pride themselves in such like high you know, self intellectual.

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<v Speaker 3>Well do you think it's like the It's like so

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<v Speaker 3>much funnier to see a serious person slip and falling

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<v Speaker 3>a ban appeal than like a silly person.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, well, yeah, the funny thing is always the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite what you're used to. But I also I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if slapstick, you know, with the Germans, obviously the elephant

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<v Speaker 1>in the room is always oh, our history. I wonder if.

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<v Speaker 5>The way for them to be like, well, if it's

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<v Speaker 5>as far removed from the cerebral as possible, Like, there's

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<v Speaker 5>no way for slapstick to be problematic. It's ultimately like

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<v Speaker 5>the joke comes from the physical comedy. The joke comes

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<v Speaker 5>from falling. You can't accidentally say the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas kind of like self flagellation, it's self flagellation, yeah right, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's cool. Whereas like a more sort of like intellectual

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<v Speaker 3>humor or like your type of humor that's more sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like sexual and word play and towing the line

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<v Speaker 3>of being offensive, but then like bringing it back in

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<v Speaker 3>that's maybe too risky.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny because I was in like a state theater

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<v Speaker 6>production of a bertal Brech play where you can't like

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<v Speaker 6>change stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>So but the director.

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<v Speaker 6>Did this amazing thing where she turned it into like

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<v Speaker 6>a very like modern feminist act where she started to

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<v Speaker 6>after the actual play, she started to bring in other

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<v Speaker 6>elements and it turned into a peachiesh show where I

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<v Speaker 6>could do what I want, but they had like translation

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<v Speaker 6>of my lyrics and they just didn't translate in the

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<v Speaker 6>poetic sense that I find them in their double entangres huh.

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<v Speaker 7>And so people after the show they were like, that

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<v Speaker 7>was very cross.

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<v Speaker 6>You said this, and I'm like, well, it was so

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<v Speaker 6>hard to explain to understand how that's like funny or interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the new album No Loops So Rude, No Loops

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<v Speaker 7>So Rude.

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<v Speaker 3>February twentieth, I should say, yeah, we've been listening to

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<v Speaker 3>We've been listening It's to Die For. It's so it's

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<v Speaker 3>like abrasive funny, like it's dancy fun and then like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you really are like so good at towing that line

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<v Speaker 3>of abrasive and then like pulling it back and being

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<v Speaker 3>like sweet and the really moments of transcendence and like

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<v Speaker 3>true emotional depth. I think, yeah, like it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like double on lube sex whole and then suddenly it's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole something will like take You'll be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this was all leading to like this profound statement I

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<v Speaker 1>just was, really, it almost feels like a culmination Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like it's like a culmination of I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know everything you've done in the best.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, is it you kind of feel like, how

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<v Speaker 6>can I bring in everything that I've done but also

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<v Speaker 6>really feel present in twenty twenty six? You know? And

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<v Speaker 6>I think production wise it's got real twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 6>feel to it. I think that I felt pushed more

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<v Speaker 6>to just like go for the real dance and the

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<v Speaker 6>real like power of it, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>It just like, yeah, it's not easy though, of course,

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<v Speaker 7>but yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Wanted to bring in emotion and vulnerability, but also understand

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<v Speaker 6>that the revolution needs joy, the revolution needs humor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>well the revolution is humor and the revolution is on

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<v Speaker 6>oh my God and also like the Sorry and.

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<v Speaker 7>Canadians. So the last album was ten years.

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<v Speaker 6>Ago, and it just seems like it's it's hitting harder

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<v Speaker 6>and you got to go in harder and deeper.

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<v Speaker 5>What I love about this album especially, but your music

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<v Speaker 5>more broadly, is a lot of the messages you have

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<v Speaker 5>which are about like, you know, there's a great lyric

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<v Speaker 5>that's like technic crats eat a Josh technocrats eat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. So I mean obviously it is anti imperialist,

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<v Speaker 1>that is anti capitalist. That is uh, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>You have very progressive politics, but so often music with

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<v Speaker 5>those messages is like kind of corny and you are

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<v Speaker 5>completely not that at all, and it's always huge.

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<v Speaker 6>That's hard, It's really hard, and I appreciate it. But

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<v Speaker 6>that's really the point.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, because I wanted to be music.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like laugh out loud funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know we can yet that because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like the the God, I should know. I wrote some

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<v Speaker 3>lyric like Panna Cottacotta Delight that song.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is so funny, like this is.

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<v Speaker 6>Wi old you mean like like I'm yes, I'm old,

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<v Speaker 6>solid gold, a woman in control of all their holes

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<v Speaker 6>and my roles, I feel my goals.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was the like, I still bless you. If

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<v Speaker 1>you beg I will fist you up your ass past.

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<v Speaker 7>Did you swear to me icon issues?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, no, it's so amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>I got venereal. Take me away straight to the clinic.

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<v Speaker 5>Convert you to gay, keep.

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<v Speaker 7>It up or get out of my way.

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<v Speaker 5>Straight to the clinic. Convert you to gay. So no,

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<v Speaker 5>that's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like okay, so, and.

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<v Speaker 6>I also like it's crazy because I'll like conversion the

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<v Speaker 6>conversion canter coming back, it's like, well, it's convert the

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<v Speaker 6>other way, like you do that. And I think I

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<v Speaker 6>play a lot with that like absurdity that I find

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<v Speaker 6>things so absurd that if you switch it, people find

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<v Speaker 6>it more absurd. But if you look at it, it's

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<v Speaker 6>kind of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you actually are doing what comedians are supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 5>which is strip fascist topics of their like seriousness by

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<v Speaker 5>making fun of them. You are saying, look at how

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<v Speaker 5>stupid that is, and you're clipping it on its head.

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<v Speaker 3>Well this we talk about this a lot where it's

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<v Speaker 3>like people right now love to like point out hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 3>and it's sort of like it doesn't do anything. It's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like, well they have to feel shame if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to point on a hypocrisy and like you

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<v Speaker 3>just being like I'm making fun of you, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 3>you to eat a jog shrap. It's like almost like

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<v Speaker 3>juvenile in the right way.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 6>feelings about like a South Park, but to me, it's

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<v Speaker 6>got that like insane toilet humor, but also doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure people have feelings whatever, but I really that

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<v Speaker 6>hit me hard.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm a South Park stand Yeah, well we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to you about People ask you a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about your musical influences, but I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>your comedic influences.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean, I'm definitely getting South Park. I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 5>getting like John Waters, Like who else has influenced you?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I don't know influence, but I love Maria Branford,

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<v Speaker 6>Like there is somebody who's taken like mental health personally,

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<v Speaker 6>but also like show shown who she is, and also

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<v Speaker 6>like you don't know, you don't know where you stand

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<v Speaker 6>with that in such a really important way. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 6>like also like almost like oh you okay, but also.

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<v Speaker 7>This is amazing. You just did a stand up just

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<v Speaker 7>for your parents.

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<v Speaker 5>Like and another person who you know talking about mental

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<v Speaker 5>health is another thing that often can be corny, and

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<v Speaker 5>she's never a Courtney.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's probably like the biggest challege.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I really you know, I became friends with Sarah

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<v Speaker 6>Squirm yeah before I saw the The Special, And there

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<v Speaker 6>are so many elements that we relate to each other

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<v Speaker 6>that we're so excited about basically prolapse, body hair, a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of but yeah, the main for my live show,

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<v Speaker 6>the main theme is prolapse. It used to be like

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<v Speaker 6>dick pussy hole, but now we're all like, let's be

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<v Speaker 6>more inclusive.

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<v Speaker 5>When do you think all of the prolapse shift happened?

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<v Speaker 5>Like twenty sixteen Trump's for a selection.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely. I looked at his face and I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you're in.

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<v Speaker 5>The prose era, in the prolapse era, in a prolapse era.

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<v Speaker 5>This is genius actually, Like I really think it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>the perfect metaphor for the era we're in because it's

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<v Speaker 5>humiliating and.

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<v Speaker 6>High reality but actually so interesting. So many layers, completely layers,

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<v Speaker 6>so many like just shades of colors and shapes.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's also sort of a like we did this

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<v Speaker 1>to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's a good point there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Then there's something about, you know, you live your whole

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<v Speaker 5>life with a tight asshole, and you're saying this, you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I know how to go through life with a tight asshole.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly it's prolapsed. How can we work with this? Like

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<v Speaker 5>it's about resetting your expectations because we live in a

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<v Speaker 5>prolapse world, they're true beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and things that grow in places that you didn't

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<v Speaker 6>expect them to, because if it grew in you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when your genitals are grew in your breast, that would

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<v Speaker 6>be a sort of badge of honor for some you know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we are also a fisting era. And yes, fisting

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge part of your new record.

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<v Speaker 7>Fisting is a huge part of my new record.

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<v Speaker 1>I just heard the fist lines and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>she still, it's a lot of fisting.

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<v Speaker 7>It's fine. Yeah, because there's a lot of fisting lines.

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<v Speaker 6>More I realized I thought I didn't have and then

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<v Speaker 6>I look back there were also fisting lines from before.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I feel like it's more like like also

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<v Speaker 7>just like.

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<v Speaker 6>Metaphysical or also the symbol of power or like fight

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<v Speaker 6>to you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>There was a play we both saw in New York

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<v Speaker 5>called Prince Faggot that was sort of like had a moment, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's a monologue about and of course I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to butcher it. But it's like how when you fist

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<v Speaker 5>someone you can feel their heartbeat or something. And I

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<v Speaker 5>was trying to make some connection between you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>embodied fisting experience and some more profound like human.

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<v Speaker 1>Connection coming close. Yeah, yeah, which I feel like is

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<v Speaker 1>very this wreck very no loops, so rude.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, this is something I feel like I've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing this sex recently on stage, which kind of makes

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 3>me like anxious, Like I'm always like, I'm like, is

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<v Speaker 3>this weird? Like I get like shameful talking about sex stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, do you ever feel like is that

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<v Speaker 3>something you had to work through? Was it? Very?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm comfortable with this off the bat, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think, to be completely honest with you, shameful in real

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<v Speaker 6>life is a more of a topic working through, but

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<v Speaker 6>performatively it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, So I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't feel shame in that way, and I feel

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<v Speaker 6>like it's a setting free and it's a manifestation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>but there's still stuff to like work through through childhood,

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<v Speaker 6>cultural all that stuff that you know, shame like we

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<v Speaker 6>are we are born and bread to be shameful of

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<v Speaker 6>our bodies. Yeah, like that that is what it is,

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<v Speaker 6>you know if you think about and then all the

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<v Speaker 6>like all the swear words are parts of your body,

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<v Speaker 6>like you dick, you asshole, such a ti whatever, like

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 6>you always say these things are all negative fuck you, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like a acts and things like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, we're taking count back, but you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know it's it's we're just like that's what we're supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to and that's all we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess I've.

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<v Speaker 5>Never thought about that, Like the most human parts of

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<v Speaker 5>us are what we use as swear words.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, exactly, that's true, you tooth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, okay. So you mentioned the album being very

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six, which I really agree with. Well, when

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about, you know, competres.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, personally, but we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam made this point that it's very like slat pop.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh wow, I love that album.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me proud.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt like, this is next level of what I've like,

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 6>this is what I envisioned pop music totally, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and I felt like that that was a big moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a wild one.

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<v Speaker 3>And this feels very in that same vein in a

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<v Speaker 3>nice way where it's so viscerally about sex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like hiding it.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like, well, I feel like, again, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know if it's about sexual acts as much as like

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 6>slip pop, like you know, fuck me, how you want

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<v Speaker 6>to just fuck me, fuck me, you know, stuff like that,

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 6>which is great, but I feel like it's it's more like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>around the political and idea of using sex as like metaphor,

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<v Speaker 6>but also not in like a shy way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, using the language of sex the languages themes of fascism.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, but.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what's up. Like it's like you can't you know, oh, just.

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<v Speaker 6>Like if we just just everything, like just all the

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<v Speaker 6>you know, backlashes, trans issues, the queer issues, the all

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<v Speaker 6>the you know, the secretive Epstein files, like all of it,

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<v Speaker 6>it doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 7>It doesn't make any sense. Why why that is secret?

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<v Speaker 6>And why you know, when you're probably giving seventy two

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<v Speaker 6>cents a year of your taxes for transgender affirmation care.

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 6>It's like seventy two cents a year, why are you

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<v Speaker 6>complaining like I'm not giving my money to that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>or like zero point zero two percent of the college

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<v Speaker 6>athletes are trans?

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<v Speaker 7>Why is it even at the top. So it's just

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<v Speaker 7>like but then.

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<v Speaker 9>There is like full out crazy Epstein trauma. People lives ruined,

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<v Speaker 9>like and that's hidden, you know, and that's and and

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 9>they're not the same, you know, one is there's gender

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 9>in there's sex, but it's all about our bodies and

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<v Speaker 9>having our our.

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 6>Understanding our like letting us be us everybody and everybody

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<v Speaker 6>be themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you go.

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<v Speaker 5>About, uh, translating the feeling or describing now into actual words?

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 5>Because I feel like you are someone who is empathetic

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.120
<v Speaker 5>feels a lot like I assume.

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>When you read the news.

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<v Speaker 5>It like hurts you if you read something you know,

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 5>very very violent or traumatic. And yet the music is

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<v Speaker 5>actually very focused. It's not like you yelling into a

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 5>mic and just like like it's very focused.

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And but you know what I mean, the lyrics are precise,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the production is very careful.

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 5>So what is the process like translating all the all

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<v Speaker 5>that cloudy chaos into into something concrete.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it?

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 7>You just try it? You just try it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I love like all out anger, and

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 6>I love moments of that, and I think I have

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 6>that on the album too, like not in your mouth,

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 6>none of your business, right right.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 7>There with it.

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<v Speaker 6>But also I want I want I want people to

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:24.959
<v Speaker 6>dance like this has always been my thing. I want

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 6>people to dance along with it and then go like, oh,

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 6>what did I just sing along with oh whoa, Yeah,

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 6>I sing along with that. Yeah, that feels even better

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 6>to sing dance along with or change you know, I

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 6>don't know, just trying away, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I know. We talked a little bit about Kim

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<v Speaker 1>who are other like younger younger, like newer people that

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you're inspired by or that you feel like kinship with.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like there's a lot that it's really fun

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<v Speaker 6>actually because I feel I have a feeling, either if

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 6>it's musically or stylistically or lyrically, I feel like somebody's

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 6>close to me and I'll contact them and it's like hello, mother,

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 6>I've been waiting for you, and it's so fun so

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 6>even yeah so. But someone like Cortiza Star, I don't

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 6>know if you know them. They're like taking hip hop

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<v Speaker 6>to a really like a weird, awesome, like just blown

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 6>out way and it's it's very cool. They're going to

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 6>be opening for me on part of the tour. Also,

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 6>Pixel Grip will be opening and they're more like this

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 6>like heavy electro style. There's a German band, Brutalist must

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 6>three thousand that reminds me a lot of like more

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 6>Crystal Castles or early like digital hardcore from Melin and

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<v Speaker 6>I mean there's a lot of people I've I feel

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<v Speaker 6>like what's cool about music, about musicians and the music

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 6>people are making now that it's not as pure Like

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 6>there were this questions of purist back then, especially when

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 6>I started like what kind.

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 7>Of music is this? Is this rock? Is this performance

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<v Speaker 7>or is this you know?

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 6>Now, it's like you could have like speed metal and

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 6>like celindion vocal, you know all, and then it could

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 6>switch to to like like a pop about hyper pop

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 6>ballot Like it's just it's all mixed up, and I

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 6>think that that's that's healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it can be freeing.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we do our door for segment? Okay, we're gonna

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 3>do it for a segment a segment. So our first

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 3>segment is called straight Shooters, And in this segment, we're

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 3>going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 3>It's basically this thing or this other thing, and you

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>just pick one. And the only rules you can't ask

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 3>any follow up questions or we will get You.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to just go with your gut. Okay, Okay, George

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<v Speaker 1>kick us off, Yes, I will kick us off.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Wait, what if I don't know what you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, ready angry. No loops so rude or no food

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stoofed.

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<v Speaker 6>No loops so.

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<v Speaker 1>Rude, Okay, no loops so rude or you snooze, you lose.

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>No loops so rude, burning bush or itchy tush.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, teaches of peaches or teaches of Ivy League institutions peaches.

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Boys want to be her? Or toy story three.

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<v Speaker 7>Sucks boys want to be her?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, an early riser or a girly geyser, girly guyser,

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ superstar or Pedro motivar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's motiva. Okay, posting a dude or fisting a dude.

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<v Speaker 7>Fisting dude of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we rank all our guest performance on a scale

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<v Speaker 5>of zero to one thousand doves, and I'm gonna be honest,

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 5>that was a clean, one thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Clean, one thousand doves. Incredible work.

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<v Speaker 7>Has anybody not got.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe only four people have gotten like around there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, is that when doves cry?

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 5>No, it's actually from a little known Lady Gaga song

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<v Speaker 5>called one thousand Doves from the CHROMATICA album.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's a deep cut.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just saying that, Yes, exactly, great great, thank

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 6>you for that fun fact of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know the wrapper Cupcake? Oh yeah, don't you

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 3>think she's amazing? Oh yeah, because I feel like she's

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 3>in your tradition. Yeah, like I feel like you two.

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<v Speaker 6>Love Cupcake very hardcore by very hardcore, way more hardcore

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 6>than I could ever be.

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<v Speaker 1>Her new album, which didn't get as much.

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 7>It was like.

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>A few months ago. It didn't get enough. There was

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>enough writting about it. But it's she's like lyrically at

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the peak of her powers. It's crazy, like you just

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like a genius at work.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, you know what.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm also really proud of a lot of like flatuation,

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 6>flatulation references. Yeah, and also just on more like you know,

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 6>making things more funny or real in that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that's ice spice.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, talking about farts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I always confuse self flagellation and flatullation fratulation.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 7>Maybe that's questions.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Self fratulation or self flatulation. Well, actually, in the pro

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>lapsed world, it's almost like those two converged. Self flagellation

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>converged with flatellation, then they got prolapsed.

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<v Speaker 7>What you know that like a haircut? Is it like

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<v Speaker 7>a quiff?

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Like a like a quaff a cuff.

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 7>What's a quiff? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't know what.

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 5>Well, sorry, you're saying a cough and a quief.

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 6>Your quaff quiefed you like a special kind of quaff

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 6>markin quief, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can quef for your cough. You always American is referenced

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>in your album as well. I always love when people

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>reference Americans, Yes, because it reminds me of the time

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>when bin Laden was assassinated and my friend said, I'm

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>proud to be a Murkin.

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't that was knowing. Yeah, the Merkan always confused me.

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I was sort of like, wait, so why did this exist?

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.959
<v Speaker 6>It was for I mean, I might I I don't

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 6>really know, but I think that it was. Was it

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 6>during the plague or during some some really bad history

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 6>time where people were having a lot of trouble and uh,

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 6>sex workers had to shave their.

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:21.959
<v Speaker 7>Their hair and.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 6>To be more attractive they used mrcants. And this is

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 6>a different answer I've given on a different podcast, So

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Most say, what you're promoting is that.

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 7>Like that my own method like making up for what

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:36.959
<v Speaker 7>is about?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's as good as a reason as any

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I can.

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<v Speaker 6>Think of, but I know that it's about like I

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 6>don't know if it was the plague or but I

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 6>know that people had to shave for health reasons and

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 6>then they were embarrassed and put on mrcans.

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 7>Which is so cool because now it's like the opposite,

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 7>the opposite.

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, except the bush is back.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 7>The bush is back, back the bush.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 6>There is a a really cool musician another one in

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 6>Berlin named Dornica or Dornica, and she has an awesome

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 6>song called bring back the Bush.

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, should we get into our straight topic?

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, we touched on it a little bit, touched

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 3>on a little bit, so you know, we asked the

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 3>guest to bring a straight topic and we discussed ahead

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 3>of time what we would talk about.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>We decided a show because we were you know, we're

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>started talking about the Golden globes blah blah blah.

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 5>And you said something which shocked me. You were like,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 5>I've never been on an award show. No, does it appeal

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 5>to you at all?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's like a weird thing where you say

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't appeal to you at all.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you're being honored, then you're like yeah, and

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 6>you're like, what am I doing? So in a way,

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 6>you're sort of like perpetuating what everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>Else does on these award shows.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 6>I was on one award show. It was like the Enemy,

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, the Enemy Awards. A long time ago.

0:36:58.280 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 7>I gave an award to.

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<v Speaker 6>Radiohead and I remember reading out and was I screwed

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 6>it up because I read it out and I said,

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 6>and the winner's me, you know, like trying to be

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 6>different and funny. And then Tommy, Tommy came up like, Okay, thanks,

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 6>it's actually.

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<v Speaker 1>That's someone with a real amazing sense of.

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, maybe they really do. I don't I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know.

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I guess I don't technically know. Little

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 1>project it very obviously, but.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I don't know if I'm built for for

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 6>award shows.

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 7>I also get a lot of.

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 6>The anxiety if you have to read teleprompters. I feel

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 6>it's so weird. I'm like, it goes too fast and

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 6>you just don't feel spontaneous.

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever performed in like, uh, I don't know,

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. I'm sure it's not like a

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 1>corporate kick, but like for a room of like stiff

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>business y famous people where you're just like it's not

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not your crowd, and you just have to like

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>go through the motions of the show.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh.

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 6>I've definitely performed for stiffies, but not really like a

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 6>bunch of celebrities like a Grammy no oh no no.

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 6>The closest thing I did was Samantha Bees This is

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 6>not the correspondent, but that was fun.

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and everyone's on your side.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean yeah, So I haven't really had that.

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 6>But I've had stiff people where I've like maybe played

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 6>for like like some kind of fundraiser where there's like

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 6>people who are patrons and they don't know who I am.

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 6>And I remember one time I decided to do this

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 6>act where I go to sing in white pants and

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 6>then my period just happens the pants and their tear aways.

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 6>So I'm like standing there and I never sing and

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 6>the music's playing, and then you know, blood is seeping

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 6>through the white pants and then I pull them off

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 6>and it's just like kind of bloody on my and

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 6>then this woman was so terrified that I ran off

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.359
<v Speaker 6>stage and ran after her.

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 1>And that was a foundraiser for Saint Jude's Children's hospital.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, it was like an art thing actually, but yeah,

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 6>I started just running after people.

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 7>I was like, what can I do?

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Now? That's amazing, I will say.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm always like like I'm always like, yes, please more

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 3>punk rock, be nasty. And then one time I was

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 3>watching a Sarah squirre, like I was watching Sarah squirm

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 3>and I just started getting so genuinely nauseous and I

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 3>was like I'm going to throw up, like and it

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 3>was like I was like, what is going on? Like

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 3>I had to leave and like go dry heave outside

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 3>for a little bit, and I was like, what is

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 3>wrong with this?

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Is honestly how I feel it.

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 7>Did you understand? Did you find out what it was?

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I think it was just like you get nauseous.

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I get nauseous. I struggle with body horror, I have

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 5>And it makes me feel like such a little due

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 5>because I'm like in theory, I think it's so like

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 5>I think in theory. In theory, I love David Cronenberg movies,

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 5>but every I'm like, oh, just.

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 7>Sticking their fingers.

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.919
<v Speaker 3>I mean even like even the Pit or something. Yeah,

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm like I'm gonna I always I watch like this.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's a performance artist in Europe. She's from Vienna.

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 6>Her name is Florentina Holtzinger. I talk about her a

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 6>lot because she's incredible. She does like these huge productions

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 6>that are both like everyone is female identified and naked

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 6>on stage like chainsawning wood or like like motorcycle driving

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 6>around other bodies or like falling downstairs, but also just

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 6>like high art and just crazy, crazy, amazing stuff. And

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 6>they did a a recreation of an old opera called Sancta,

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 6>which is about lesbian nuns. And there were people that

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 6>got fully nauseous to this. If people were running out

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 6>and puking because there's also they also do like hooking.

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Hard to watch. We were just a folsome street fair.

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been there in San Francisco?

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I have, and.

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Sting, pissing, and like I celebrate all of it, but

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like there is like I got nauseous. Well, you

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 3>know what's funny, it's like all the whole the reason

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.720
<v Speaker 3>those things that I'm having is because you're taking people

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 3>that are participating or taking back something that should be shameful. Yeah,

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 3>and then you are confronted with your own in harem

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 3>prejudices and shame. No matter how accepting an inclusive you

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 3>think you are. It's like you see something unfamiliar, something

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 3>that is combining something that's shameful with something that's sexual,

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 3>and you don't have time to unpack that in the moment.

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 6>So in the moment you're like, oh, well, I have

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 6>well for someone to say, Like when you had that

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 6>experience at the Sarah Squirm show, was it live like

0:41:59.040 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 6>you were there?

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So were you like I hate the show or no?

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 3>It was like, I think I was performing too, so

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I was also probably nervous, and so I was like,

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I think I was like watching her getting nauseous.

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Both. I don't really get nauseous, even just before performing,

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>if I.

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 6>Get yeah, yeah, I understand that. Yeah, I used to

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 6>get nauseous a lot more. This is not about sexual anything,

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 6>but in cars and in planes. And then I realized

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 6>it's because my mom was smoking in the car with

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 6>the windows up, and people were smoking on planes.

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh that makes sense.

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 7>I realize, Oh, it's just smoking that makes me nauch.

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I still, like always obviously always loved Sarah's vibe.

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I was just like it was hidden in a different way. Well,

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>there is.

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<v Speaker 5>I do think there's an entire I don't know, sort

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 5>of genre of things that you can like in theory

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:55.919
<v Speaker 5>but not in I don't think that's true for Shara.

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 5>We both love sir, But like, there are just things,

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 5>even music too, where I'm like, in theory, it's so

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.280
<v Speaker 5>cool someone is doing this, and I want so badly

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:05.359
<v Speaker 5>to like it, but it's not.

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 6>For me right, Like in theory, Gigi Allen shitting on

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 6>stage is cool, but do I really want to smell

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 6>this shit?

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 7>And do I want him to hold it up to

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 7>my nose exactly?

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Were you aware of the time when Lady Gaga

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>had a vomit artist vomit on her at south By Southwest.

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 7>Yes it was green vomit.

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, that's a great example.

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's so funny.

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 6>Because the Florentina Whold singer, I'd seen her do that

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 6>exactly with green vomit, not saying I don't know that

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 6>Lady Gaga knew anything about that. But there's also this, uh,

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 6>Jubilee Brown. There was this a Toronto artist who and

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if it was there's a Okay, now

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna get is there some artist.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:52.240
<v Speaker 7>Ah money or not monee. But some some artist doesn't

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 7>use a certain color literally like the artist.

0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Talking about some like avant garde.

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 6>Or like uh, someone in someone in your podcast right now,

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 6>but they literally had that color like in their mouth

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 6>and entered the museum and puked all over the paintings.

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:17.720
<v Speaker 7>In that color.

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:19.479
<v Speaker 1>WHOA, my god.

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 6>This is like a huge history of like performance artist. Yeah,

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm puking.

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 5>Like I want to know more about your relationship to

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 5>the art world because it's something that is so uh.

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 5>The art world is often so alienating to me into

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 5>both of us, I think because it's such a closed

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 5>black box and so often it feels like it's a

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 5>way for rich people to launder money and very valid,

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 5>And I but then occasionally you will see something You'll

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 5>like walk into the gallery and see something transcendent, and

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 5>you're like, Okay, so there is still interesting stuff happening,

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 5>but I feel so not knowledgeable about where to go

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 5>and where to find it, Like are you involved in

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 5>that world.

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 6>I have friends that are artists, and I like their

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 6>work and I feel their their work is important. I

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 6>you know, the art world is very confusing. I can't

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 6>even understand it, so because I.

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Feel like you overlap with that, Like I think people

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>could call your performance through that's amazing. Do a line

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>of mercans? Yeah you thought about that. Yeah, what brand

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>partnerships are we thinking for this album cycle? Uber Eats?

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe an AI company?

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 7>Yes, all the AI companies.

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>It's good, it would be great for you.

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 7>How do you spell it again?

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll look it up. We'll look it up.

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 7>I have done. I did. I used to sell mercans

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 7>at my show.

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>They were the color of that money is not allowed

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to use.

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 7>No, we had the like the paint beside it, and

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 7>you could puke on the.

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Puke on your own. It's more sanitary that way. Yeah,

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess to return to Award shows being straight. Yes,

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 3>I think this is something. This is maybe I hate

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.959
<v Speaker 3>when this is a new peeve I'm building, Okay, where

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 3>it's like when things are for the cameras more than

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 3>the people in the room, and they have people in

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 3>the room, like I can see the exhaustion of people

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 3>like sitting there being like, Okay, we gotta like smile

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 3>more because it's all gonna be on camera, Like we

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 3>gotta take it again because it's gonna be on and

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I'd rather they like do an event, film it and

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 3>then like cut it together later, right, because I get

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 3>annoyed when something is a live event as a performance

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 3>of what a live event is and not actually just

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 3>a live event.

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:57.839
<v Speaker 7>Do they do that? A lot of award shows do

0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 7>it over again.

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like.

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.879
<v Speaker 3>They're like taking stuff again if it doesn't like if

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 3>you like stumble over it or like that's not true.

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It just it doesn't have that like I don't know,

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.319
<v Speaker 1>so few things now have that like live feel where

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you think like something could go wrong and maybe someone

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 1>makes a mistake and takes a wrong step, like it's

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 1>also edited or something.

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's like a sanitization where even like you like

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 3>saying like in the Winter is me, I'm like, we.

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Need more people should do that. We need even to

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>like fuck with it a little bit. Yeah, why didn't

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Julia Roberts do that at the Golden Globes? Would if

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny?

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 7>Did she win?

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>No? She presented one of the big awards like Best

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Picture or something, right, Yeah, what was the best?

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 7>But I don't know, I don't tell to you.

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Best Picture Comedy was one battle after another, which is

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 5>crazy that it was included comedy, it's not really comedy.

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:50.240
<v Speaker 1>And then Best Picture Drama was Hamnet.

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 7>Have you seen that either? Have you No, I'm curious.

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious too. I've heard Jesse Buckley is uh, who

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>won Best Actress last night, is like phenomenal in it,

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and she's sort of cool to me. She seems cool.

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Well no, And then the other issue,

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:12.800
<v Speaker 3>of course, is like Awards for Creativity is completely insane.

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.919
<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, I'm always like, why are we doing this?

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 6>And then also why do people dress up? Why is

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 6>everybody dressing a red carpet look? And then it's like judging,

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 6>it's just judging all the time. Yeah, it's more judging again,

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 6>it's judging the best award is judging the best outfit.

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, but yeah, it's interesting because award shows

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>in some ways are very gay.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, obviously they're created try and four gay guys,

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 5>but there is something I think it's almost like they're

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 5>gay in retrospect. They're gay as like cultural moments you

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 5>can look back on and be like, oh, she was fabulous,

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.479
<v Speaker 5>blah blah, But in the moment it's very straight because

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 5>it feels like you're they're just hurting cattle.

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.800
<v Speaker 1>They're like, look at this one, right, I lost weight.

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Look at this one. Her hair is different. Yeah, look

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>at this one. She got a divorce.

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 5>It's just like it's truly just like a lineup of

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.839
<v Speaker 5>people that are being judged. I feel like something that's

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:10.720
<v Speaker 5>very straight is like the archetype of the entertainment tonight,

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 5>like interviewer, like someone who's like, so.

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>We're having an amazing time here, Peaches, the new album

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>is fabulous.

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, and so I do think it's like

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:24.840
<v Speaker 5>in the moment, there's almost something like sounds.

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 7>Very campy the way you're saying that's true.

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I know it. Well, you're doing like hunger game style hunger.

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 3>There is it is very hunger, It's true, But I

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 3>feel like there's such a lack of uh, imperfection, like

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 3>everything has to be like so perfect, and even when

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 3>someone's being like I'm rocker.

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 7>They're like yeah, yeah.

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 5>The other thing that straight about it is that in theory,

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 5>the you know, they're trying to reward art, but in practice,

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 5>to state the obvious, there's like campaigns happening, and of

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 5>course the Best Actor Award is not going to go

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.359
<v Speaker 5>to I don't know, the person that gave the best

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 5>performance whatever that means. It's gonna go to like whatever

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:04.400
<v Speaker 5>studio paid. So it is like I think the straight

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 5>thing about it is just turning art into a competition,

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 5>which like you know, but then of course the camp

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 5>comes out of that because it's so rigid right that

0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 5>you can the seams start to show, and that's when

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 5>it's fun.

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 7>It has to be surfaced, but so like, yeah.

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can find depth in the shallowness.

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:29.399
<v Speaker 3>To quote Daria, there you go. I do think being

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 3>a presenter awards show is like seems kind of fun,

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 3>oh totally, like because it's such a low like I

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 3>feel like the bit you have to do like doesn't

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 3>have to be like amazingly funny, Like if you're even

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.720
<v Speaker 3>like half funny, you can like be like blow their mind.

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>It's because everyone's so stiff. Yeah, totally.

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.399
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. Maybe I feel like maybe it's a

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.760
<v Speaker 6>fine line, like you just don't know, like what's gonna

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:54.399
<v Speaker 6>you know.

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 7>Be just weird for everybody else.

0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 3>This is also the outfits thing when it comes to

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 3>I find so exhausting and even like as we like

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 3>I've started to think more about outfits and like be

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 3>like okay, so now like even just like normal events,

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:16.720
<v Speaker 3>I need to like have a fun outfit.

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, how do you make peace with that? Well?

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>You always look it's like you're always in. This is

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of like Rick Owens, I know.

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 7>Sure is.

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Clocked.

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know, because it's also like that again

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 6>with the Ward Show. It's like show as much skin

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.760
<v Speaker 6>as possible until the moment that it's gonna be talked

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 6>about in a negative way, not not from my mind,

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 6>but in that sort.

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 7>Of straight like yeah, totally. It's so strange.

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think that you should, Like I think

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the most punk rock thing you can do you could

0:51:56.080 --> 0:52:00.359
<v Speaker 1>do specifically me tell me what I can is to

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:05.399
<v Speaker 1>wear just like the most conventional like form fitting, boob

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>forward red dress and then do your hair like like

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 1>a Hollywood startlet, like just like blonde like that.

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 7>No, I think no one would battern and they'd be like,

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 7>who's that?

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I have a pitch. You wear like a

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>life is Good T shirt like long rainbow flip flop.

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 7>That's it.

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>That's maybe you're like walking a dog. That's a really good.

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 7>Maybe like a few dogs, like I'm a dog walking.

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then you're on your phone the whole time.

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 7>That's solitaire and I have a blue tooth like sal yeah,

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 7>that's it. There we go.

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>But the whole time on the blue it's not like

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a business call.

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 3>You're like planning, like like like which highway you're going

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 3>to take to get somewhere.

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Like you're like, well, there's a lot of traffic on

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the four one.

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 7>Trying to get out of it, trying to get out

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:53.720
<v Speaker 7>of there.

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:58.360
<v Speaker 1>No loops, so rude. I love saying that that is catchy.

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 7>It is if you don't, because you know, it's like

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 7>all about.

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 6>Getting to a new level and becoming and having comfort

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 6>and finding new ways, not just like let's get it

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 6>done from one one side to another. And it also

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 6>it relates to you know, men a puzzle dryness of women.

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 6>And also you know, fisting is not I mean, lube

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 6>is not just for you know, gay men who forgot

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 6>their paupers to fistl.

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Do you feel like if we're living in a prolapse era,

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:40.640
<v Speaker 5>the antidote is lube. It's like we have to enter

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 5>a lube mindset.

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 6>This is exactly what I'm talking about. Because's so much

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 6>friction and dryness in the world, you know, So it's

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:51.239
<v Speaker 6>likely maybe if we had some like magical loube that

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 6>could just like help us talk to each other or

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 6>like interact with each other in a way that didn't

0:53:57.560 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 6>feel so itchy exactly.

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>So to recap, living in a prolapse world is the

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 1>only prop world. I'm a live girl in a prolapse

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:13.920
<v Speaker 1>perhaps world. I do hate when there's loub on the

0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>floor and then for like a month, you're like, this

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is a danger.

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 7>It is a danger.

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 6>That's why I also had all these ideas like yeah,

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 6>loub on stick no, no, no, that's sticks around.

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Who in the music industry do you think is a fraud?

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 10>Who's a fraud in the music industry, like one of

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 10>your peers, one of my peers. So funny, I don't

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 10>even consider myself in the music industry.

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 7>Let's just say that.

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 6>Really Yeah, well, I don't really feel like part of

0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 6>the industry.

0:54:59.120 --> 0:54:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Church like I don't.

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but I feel like you're someone who

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 5>like can dip into that whenever you want, because.

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 7>You're so then I don't have to be. So that's

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 7>what I mean. It's not like I'm not I'm not controlled,

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 7>but you're in your stream.

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh, there's nothing better than saying that into a podcast

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 3>micro vote. No, we've been called out for that before. Yeah, yeah,

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 3>it's true. Are you afraid of AI?

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:31.360
<v Speaker 6>I I can't say that. I mean, yes, yes, of course,

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 6>I think we're all afraid of what AI can do.

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 6>I think that I do use AI, and like I

0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:41.200
<v Speaker 6>think we all use it. Like it's there is uses

0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 6>for AI, and they're also creative uses, but there's also abuses.

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 6>So it's really it's confusing. Yeah, it's very confusing, but

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 6>it's also detrimental.

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 7>And it's also like.

0:55:56.320 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 6>AI can't get all the information because there's also all

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 6>these libraries with amazing like archival information that has not

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:07.919
<v Speaker 6>been read to that needs to be all read to AI.

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 6>If you really want to have everything, you know, there's

0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:13.719
<v Speaker 6>gonna it's gonna kind of run out of its own

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:17.839
<v Speaker 6>information in some way, but which doesn't make it any

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:19.800
<v Speaker 6>less scary totally.

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, and then entire swaths of knowledge will be

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:24.080
<v Speaker 1>completely forgotten.

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:27.840
<v Speaker 6>And entire swaths of knowledge are not even being considered,

0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:32.720
<v Speaker 6>and and of course people are pumping it with certain

0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:35.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, fascism ideologies.

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 7>And that's really scary.

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Too, because you live in Berlin. Does it feel shocking

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 3>to come back, like to come to America now.

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.840
<v Speaker 6>Well, it feels shocking to come and you know, what

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 6>happened this week, what happened last week with Venezuela, what

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:55.280
<v Speaker 6>happened this week with Renee Good is just it's uh,

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:59.479
<v Speaker 6>it's it's not shocking, but it's shocking. It's like, yeah,

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 6>it's actually or you know, yeah, it's because it's going

0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 6>to be like martial law soon. Like I'm my tours

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 6>in February, February twentieth, let's see if we're still here.

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 7>Well, that's a great note to end on. You can

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 7>take that out if you want.

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, I mean I do find it.

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:24.200
<v Speaker 3>It's so conf I mean, your work, you know, is

0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 3>dealing with the issues of our times. But it is

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 3>hard to like plan for the future. It's sort of

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 3>like what will be happening in a year. If I'm

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.520
<v Speaker 3>like planning something for a year from now, it's like, well,

0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 3>what what will the world look like?

0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I kind of feel like that also with writing

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 6>an album too. I don't like save up all these

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 6>things because like things happen you're right, they just happen.

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's and it's happened. But that's actually a sort

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>of not a silver lining. But I completely agree with

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you that. Artistically, I feel like when you have an idea,

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you just have to express it now, yeah, because will

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:04.400
<v Speaker 1>either feel irrelevant or outdated or like too late if

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you do it in like six months. Like there's just like.

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:09.480
<v Speaker 7>Dick writing instead of like speaking out ye.

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Completely, yeah, does everyone speak out speak?

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm really I'm you know. I also

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 6>want to mention like a band like the Lambrini Girls.

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you know about them. They're like

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 6>pure punk amazing, speaking off of fascism, like in the audience,

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 6>starting their own mash pits, but like really responsible.

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 7>I feel like there's this new age.

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:36.120
<v Speaker 6>Of like punk and speaking out but also taking care

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 6>of everybody. Like there's this there is like care element

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 6>that you know, even with like sex parties and things

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 6>like that, but which which I think is very important.

0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 3>No, I've always trne that to be a a nice

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 3>part of that. Like the sex culture in general is

0:58:57.120 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 3>very like after care focused and consent focused and testing

0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 3>focused and all this stuff, which I really appreciate without being.

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:07.480
<v Speaker 6>Corny, without the way that like, you can take it

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 6>as far as you can take it, and everybody can

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 6>take it as far as they need to and it's

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 6>not really like the way you take it that far

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 6>doesn't mean I have to.

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Final question for you. What's more annoying over intellectualizing sex

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>or over intellectualizing nightlife?

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 6>Hmmm, I would say over intellectualizing sex.

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has to be embodied. Yeah, to be in

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the moment. Up, get going and get going? Should we?

0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's do our final segment. So our final.

0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Segment is called shout outs, and we pay homage to

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 3>the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out, where

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 3>we shout out anything that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas.

0:59:53.280 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 3>We will go first the yes as brief as you want.

0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>George, I'm gonna do. I'm going to do the most

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like basic corporate shout out as a sort of commentary

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 1>on the fact that we are with like an iconic

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 1>punk rock musicch Great, Okay, what's up everyone? I want

1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to give a shout out to Todd Snyder and specifically

1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the Todd Snyder store at the Grove. I very last

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.560
<v Speaker 1>minute had to you know, attend a black tie event.

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't own black tie, you know, despite the fact

1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that I'm currently wearing this pretty conservative outfit, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>normally think of myself as pretty alternative. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to.

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<v Speaker 5>Buy a tuxedo last minute and they were able to

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<v Speaker 5>rush everything, tailor it to my tastes. It was affordable,

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<v Speaker 5>and I said, you know what, todd Snyder, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 9>Bro.

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<v Speaker 5>Shout out to the sales rep at Todd Snyder who

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<v Speaker 5>said that we shouldn't, who said we should hang out,

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<v Speaker 5>but then didn't give me his contact info or tell

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<v Speaker 5>me his name.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're rad. He had this whole story about

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<v Speaker 1>his husband recently got laid off, so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>send out my thoughts to him and hopefully hands on

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<v Speaker 1>his feet, and pretty much shout out to all gay

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<v Speaker 1>guys that work in customer service anywhere, whether it's your stores, restaurants,

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shops, you are our bravest troops.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, if Tuslaer hears this and they potentially want

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<v Speaker 5>to give me like a gift card or something like that,

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<v Speaker 5>I would be open to. That would also be open to,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'll donate some of it to a cause of

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<v Speaker 5>everyone's choice, like New Sox.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, whoa thank you? Okay, I since you went corporate,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually going to doub and go even more corporate

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<v Speaker 3>and insidious. Okay, what's up freaks, losers and of course

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<v Speaker 3>perverts around the globe. I want to give a huge

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to the television program RuPaul's Drag Race. I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as we all know, we've had fatigue from

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<v Speaker 3>this TV show for roughly a decade now, and then

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<v Speaker 3>this week it came back and we watched it at

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<v Speaker 3>my house and I said, you know what, this is fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been through a cycle of like this is amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>this is revolutionary, to like this is taking time off

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<v Speaker 3>of my life, and to now I think we can

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<v Speaker 3>be at a place where we are at peace with

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<v Speaker 3>it and we are saying this is simply a part

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<v Speaker 3>of our world and it's fun to watch. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to freak out about it, you and just enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm saying, you know, it's nice to have something

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<v Speaker 3>to watch on a Friday night before.

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<v Speaker 1>You're any eagle. Yeah, so shout out our bulls Drag Race.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate just having something to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, xoxo, Sam, Wow, and good luck to all the

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<v Speaker 3>girls this season, and good luck to all the girls

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<v Speaker 3>this sees, especially the ones we like.

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<v Speaker 6>Good Luck to all the drag queens.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all the dragons. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Peaches, I I've already said it, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>going to shout out all the musicians who are making

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<v Speaker 6>an effort to speak out and to integrate it in

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<v Speaker 6>their show in a way that makes it powerful, that

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<v Speaker 6>mobilizes people. And shout out to people who are speaking

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<v Speaker 6>out and really saying something and keep doing it. It's

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<v Speaker 6>so important, it's so important for us. I know we

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<v Speaker 6>are all scared and it's really I'm closing my eyes

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<v Speaker 6>because it's it's so real, like trying to scare us

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<v Speaker 6>from saying anything. And it's so important. So shout out

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<v Speaker 6>to all of you for saying something. Shout out for

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<v Speaker 6>you for even thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, And no lube So Rude is out. February twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>feb This is going on tour.

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<v Speaker 6>It starts February twenty Europe, North America February twentieth to

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<v Speaker 6>end of March.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, amazing, Thanks so much for doing the politic

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you such a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so honored. Yeah, thank you. Okay, bye bye podcast

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