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Speaker 2: Just kidding we trecked you as we have another amazing

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Speaker 2: announcement about upcoming shows and I am not going to

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Speaker 2: sugarcoat it. If you're in London, you can see me

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Speaker 2: George Severs at the Soho Theater on February twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: The February twenty third show is sold out for the

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Speaker 3: And then I Sam, I'm doing an Hour in LA

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Speaker 3: three times on March ninth, March twenty fourth, and April first.

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Speaker 3: Get tickets to that as well.

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Speaker 4: And if you are in New York City there are

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Speaker 4: actually quite a few opportunities to see us. We will

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Speaker 4: be doing a Stradio Lab live show at the Bellhouse.

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Speaker 4: We are returning home to the Bell House, and that

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Speaker 4: is on March thirteenth, Friday the third teenth, at seven

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Speaker 4: thirty at the Bell House.

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Speaker 3: And then in NYC, I Sam, I'm doing my Hour

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Speaker 3: on the eighteenth at Union Hall, getting a bit intimate

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Speaker 3: with it nights.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me being British as kind of my thing. Sans

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Speaker 1: MA shows are at London.

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Speaker 2: So basically, if you are in London, New York City

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Speaker 2: or Los Angeles, California, you have various opportunities to see

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Speaker 2: us either together or separately.

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Speaker 1: And that is all we have for now. Cheers.

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Speaker 3: Podcast starts now, and Happy Monday, Happy Monday to all,

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Speaker 3: Happy post Golden Globes Day to all of Hollywood. So

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Speaker 3: you know, who knows when this will be coming out,

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Speaker 3: but when we are recording, it is the day after.

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Speaker 1: After the Golden Globes, which George did. I'll say it

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Speaker 1: was there. I was there.

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Speaker 5: I was not despite being employed by actually the Golden

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Speaker 5: Globes organization to Clark Productions, I was not able to

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Speaker 5: attend the actual show. I was in the overflow room

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Speaker 5: for various amazing publicism producers and the people that keep

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Speaker 5: this town running.

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Speaker 3: Folks, Well, I think it's good that you weren't the

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Speaker 3: main show, because I agree, what would I just look

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Speaker 5: I was like, I hadn't eaten all day and I

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Speaker 5: eat while like like influencers are doing photo shoots and

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Speaker 5: people were Do you know when you feel like legitimately invisible,

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Speaker 5: like people are walking into you. Yeah, it was sort

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Speaker 5: of amazing if it was like it actually felt like

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Speaker 5: Zen Buddhism in that I was like, oh, here, I

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Speaker 5: am invisible, despite the fact that I was in the

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Speaker 5: least zen Buddhist place of all, which is a room

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Speaker 5: full of kind of vultures and vampires. Yeah, it actually

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Speaker 5: was such an out of body experience that I felt

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Speaker 1: Well that's lovely. I have a question.

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Speaker 3: So, when you're like working at an event like that, huh,

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Speaker 3: do you transition into sort of employee mode, like sort

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Speaker 3: of get pitiful. Whenever I'm in a space like that

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Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. Hmm. Or are you

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Speaker 1: like I'm taking up my space?

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 5: I think my general plan is act like you belong,

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Speaker 1: Like, even if I don't know where I'm going, I'm

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Speaker 5: And I just started walking in a random direction, and

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Speaker 1: Turn right like a sim Yeah, I'll eventually find it.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, you know, I saw a bunch

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Speaker 1: I was much more starstruck this morning meeting our guest

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Speaker 5: Well name and it actually really and we will bring

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Speaker 1: But there's something she walked in. I was like, finally

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Speaker 3: I kept talking to people that were completely normal, and

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Speaker 3: This is the thing about actors is they're like literally

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Speaker 1: One day. At least act how do I put this?

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Speaker 5: At least actors look like celebrities sort of bad musicians

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Speaker 3: There's something crazy like I'm like, where's the star power?

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine you, you know, eating a bat on

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Speaker 1: I'm like where's the punk rock? Right right right, right

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Speaker 5: So anyway, I I was proud of myself for not.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I have some soul left, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just pushing aside Amanda Stafer. I was like,

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Speaker 5: Honestly, that's see, that's I will never succeed in this

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Speaker 1: That's why people kept being like, so what do you do.

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Speaker 1: I'm like I don't. I don't and someone like nothing,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I wrote for I wrote for

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Speaker 5: And then someone goes, are you a are you a

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Speaker 1: I get paid for it. But I didn't. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: We need to bring in our gut, We need to

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Speaker 1: bring in our guest. It is such a true honor.

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Speaker 1: I'm buzzing. I'm buzzing. Please to the podcast Peaches. Oh hi, but.

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Speaker 7: There wasn't one person that you were star struck about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let you know what, thank you call him out.

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Speaker 5: Uh listen, when Julia Roberts walked by, you know, we

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Speaker 5: But the thing is, I don't think I said this

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Speaker 1: Fast like I. So, you know, you turn around at

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Speaker 1: some point you see I don't know, Leonardo DiCaprio or something,

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Speaker 6: But you don't because you don't hear what they're saying.

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Speaker 6: You know, you get them because like if they said

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Speaker 1: Yes, well that did happen to me and I have

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Speaker 5: She goes, oh, here comes so and so he's gay.

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Speaker 3: But the tone I was like, you're kookie, Well that's

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Speaker 1: I did you know, I think it was interesting.

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Speaker 6: I was just like, see, I was on Okay, I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know this band. You know they're cool, but

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Speaker 7: I just didn't understand what it means. What does it mean?

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Speaker 6: Like you know they're they're so cool to get like

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Speaker 1: I think what's interesting is just the idea of this

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Speaker 5: And I think that was the most quote unquote interesting

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Speaker 6: I thought that's what they do. I know, I thought

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Speaker 6: they do gossip. I know, anyone strategically gossiping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that does make things like that less interesting,

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Speaker 7: Right right.

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Speaker 6: Hind totally, it's like this whole game, Like it's yeah,

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Speaker 6: they like become mad at you. Yeah, they're mad at

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Speaker 6: and it's like but it's like I remember, I was

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Speaker 7: I just think like not that I care, but it

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Speaker 6: Try and make it so secretive, secretive, and that it's

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Speaker 3: Whereas kind of like self flagellation, it's self flagellation, yeah right, right, Okay,

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Speaker 6: It's funny because I was in like a state theater

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Speaker 7: And so people after the show they were like, that

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the new album No Loops So Rude, No Loops

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Speaker 3: February twentieth, I should say, yeah, we've been listening to

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Speaker 3: We've been listening It's to Die For. It's so it's

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Speaker 6: I mean, is it you kind of feel like, how

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Speaker 7: It just like, yeah, it's not easy though, of course,

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Speaker 6: Wanted to bring in emotion and vulnerability, but also understand

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Speaker 7: Canadians. So the last album was ten years.

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Speaker 6: Ago, and it just seems like it's it's hitting harder

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Speaker 5: What I love about this album especially, but your music

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Speaker 1: It's great. So I mean obviously it is anti imperialist,

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Speaker 5: You have very progressive politics, but so often music with

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Speaker 6: That's hard, It's really hard, and I appreciate it. But

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Speaker 7: Yes, because I wanted to be music.

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Speaker 3: I don't know we can yet that because I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is so funny, like this is.

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Speaker 1: Like what was the like, I still bless you. If

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Speaker 7: Did you swear to me icon issues?

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, no, it's so amazing.

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Speaker 5: I got venereal. Take me away straight to the clinic.

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Speaker 5: Convert you to gay, keep.

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Speaker 7: It up or get out of my way.

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Speaker 5: Straight to the clinic. Convert you to gay. So no,

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Speaker 1: It's like okay, so, and.

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Speaker 5: Well, you actually are doing what comedians are supposed to do,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people have

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Speaker 3: No, I'm a South Park stand Yeah, well we wanted

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Speaker 5: So I mean, I'm definitely getting South Park. I'm definitely

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know influence, but I love Maria Branford,

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Speaker 5: Like and another person who you know talking about mental

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Speaker 1: I guess that's probably like the biggest challege.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I really you know, I became friends with Sarah

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Speaker 5: When do you think all of the prolapse shift happened?

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Speaker 6: Definitely. I looked at his face and I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 5: The prose era, in the prolapse era, in a prolapse era.

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Speaker 5: This is genius actually, Like I really think it's it's

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Speaker 6: High reality but actually so interesting. So many layers, completely layers,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good point there.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Then there's something about, you know, you live your whole

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Speaker 5: I know how to go through life with a tight asshole.

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Speaker 5: Suddenly it's prolapsed. How can we work with this? Like

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and things that grow in places that you didn't

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Speaker 1: No, we are also a fisting era. And yes, fisting

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Speaker 7: Fisting is a huge part of my new record.

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Speaker 1: she still, it's a lot of fisting.

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00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 7: It's fine. Yeah, because there's a lot of fisting lines.

444
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 6: More I realized I thought I didn't have and then

445
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 6: I look back there were also fisting lines from before.

446
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 7: But yeah, I feel like it's more like like also

447
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 7: just like.

448
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 6: Metaphysical or also the symbol of power or like fight

449
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 6: to you know.

450
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

451
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 5: There was a play we both saw in New York

452
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 5: called Prince Faggot that was sort of like had a moment, Yeah,

453
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,239
Speaker 5: and there's a monologue about and of course I'm going

454
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 5: to butcher it. But it's like how when you fist

455
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 5: someone you can feel their heartbeat or something. And I

456
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 5: was trying to make some connection between you know, the

457
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 5: embodied fisting experience and some more profound like human.

458
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: Connection coming close. Yeah, yeah, which I feel like is

459
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: very this wreck very no loops, so rude.

460
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, this is something I feel like I've been

461
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: doing this sex recently on stage, which kind of makes

462
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: me like anxious, Like I'm always like, I'm like, is

463
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 3: this weird? Like I get like shameful talking about sex stuff,

464
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 3: and I'm like, do you ever feel like is that

465
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: something you had to work through? Was it? Very?

466
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm comfortable with this off the bat, I.

467
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 6: Think, to be completely honest with you, shameful in real

468
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 6: life is a more of a topic working through, but

469
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 6: performatively it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, So I don't.

470
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 6: I don't feel shame in that way, and I feel

471
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 6: like it's a setting free and it's a manifestation. Yeah,

472
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 6: but there's still stuff to like work through through childhood,

473
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 6: cultural all that stuff that you know, shame like we

474
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 6: are we are born and bread to be shameful of

475
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 6: our bodies. Yeah, like that that is what it is,

476
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 6: you know if you think about and then all the

477
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 6: like all the swear words are parts of your body,

478
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 6: like you dick, you asshole, such a ti whatever, like

479
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 6: you always say these things are all negative fuck you, you know,

480
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 6: like a acts and things like that.

481
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 7: Yes, we're taking count back, but you.

482
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 6: Know it's it's we're just like that's what we're supposed

483
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 6: to and that's all we have.

484
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I've.

485
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 5: Never thought about that, Like the most human parts of

486
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 5: us are what we use as swear words.

487
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, that's true, you tooth.

488
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay. So you mentioned the album being very

489
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, which I really agree with. Well, when

490
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: we were talking about, you know, competres.

491
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, personally, but we were talking about.

492
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: Sam made this point that it's very like slat pop.

493
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 7: Oh wow, I love that album.

494
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: It made me proud.

495
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 6: I felt like, this is next level of what I've like,

496
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 6: this is what I envisioned pop music totally, you know,

497
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 6: and I felt like that that was a big moment.

498
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a wild one.

499
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: And this feels very in that same vein in a

500
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: nice way where it's so viscerally about sex.

501
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: It's not like hiding it.

502
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 6: I feel like, well, I feel like, again, I don't

503
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 6: know if it's about sexual acts as much as like

504
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 6: slip pop, like you know, fuck me, how you want

505
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 6: to just fuck me, fuck me, you know, stuff like that,

506
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 6: which is great, but I feel like it's it's more like, yeah,

507
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 6: around the political and idea of using sex as like metaphor,

508
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 6: but also not in like a shy way.

509
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, using the language of sex the languages themes of fascism.

510
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: And I mean, but.

511
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 7: That's what's up. Like it's like you can't you know, oh, just.

512
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 6: Like if we just just everything, like just all the

513
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 6: you know, backlashes, trans issues, the queer issues, the all

514
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 6: the you know, the secretive Epstein files, like all of it,

515
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 6: it doesn't make any sense.

516
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 7: It doesn't make any sense. Why why that is secret?

517
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 6: And why you know, when you're probably giving seventy two

518
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 6: cents a year of your taxes for transgender affirmation care.

519
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 6: It's like seventy two cents a year, why are you

520
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 6: complaining like I'm not giving my money to that, you know,

521
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 6: or like zero point zero two percent of the college

522
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 6: athletes are trans?

523
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 7: Why is it even at the top. So it's just

524
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 7: like but then.

525
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 9: There is like full out crazy Epstein trauma. People lives ruined,

526
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 9: like and that's hidden, you know, and that's and and

527
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 9: they're not the same, you know, one is there's gender

528
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 9: in there's sex, but it's all about our bodies and

529
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 9: having our our.

530
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 6: Understanding our like letting us be us everybody and everybody

531
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 6: be themselves.

532
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: How do you go.

533
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 5: About, uh, translating the feeling or describing now into actual words?

534
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: Because I feel like you are someone who is empathetic

535
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 5: feels a lot like I assume.

536
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: When you read the news.

537
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 5: It like hurts you if you read something you know,

538
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 5: very very violent or traumatic. And yet the music is

539
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 5: actually very focused. It's not like you yelling into a

540
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 5: mic and just like like it's very focused.

541
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: And but you know what I mean, the lyrics are precise,

542
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: the production is very careful.

543
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 5: So what is the process like translating all the all

544
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: that cloudy chaos into into something concrete.

545
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 7: I don't know.

546
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: Does it?

547
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 7: You just try it? You just try it.

548
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's.

549
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 6: I feel like I love like all out anger, and

550
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 6: I love moments of that, and I think I have

551
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 6: that on the album too, like not in your mouth,

552
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 6: none of your business, right right.

553
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 7: There with it.

554
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 6: But also I want I want I want people to

555
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 6: dance like this has always been my thing. I want

556
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 6: people to dance along with it and then go like, oh,

557
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 6: what did I just sing along with oh whoa, Yeah,

558
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 6: I sing along with that. Yeah, that feels even better

559
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 6: to sing dance along with or change you know, I

560
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: don't know, just trying away, yeah.

561
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Who I know. We talked a little bit about Kim

562
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: who are other like younger younger, like newer people that

563
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: you're inspired by or that you feel like kinship with.

564
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 6: I feel like there's a lot that it's really fun

565
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 6: actually because I feel I have a feeling, either if

566
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 6: it's musically or stylistically or lyrically, I feel like somebody's

567
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 6: close to me and I'll contact them and it's like hello, mother,

568
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 6: I've been waiting for you, and it's so fun so

569
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 6: even yeah so. But someone like Cortiza Star, I don't

570
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 6: know if you know them. They're like taking hip hop

571
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 6: to a really like a weird, awesome, like just blown

572
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 6: out way and it's it's very cool. They're going to

573
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 6: be opening for me on part of the tour. Also,

574
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 6: Pixel Grip will be opening and they're more like this

575
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 6: like heavy electro style. There's a German band, Brutalist must

576
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: three thousand that reminds me a lot of like more

577
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 6: Crystal Castles or early like digital hardcore from Melin and

578
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot of people I've I feel

579
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 6: like what's cool about music, about musicians and the music

580
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 6: people are making now that it's not as pure Like

581
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 6: there were this questions of purist back then, especially when

582
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 6: I started like what kind.

583
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 7: Of music is this? Is this rock? Is this performance

584
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 7: or is this you know?

585
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 6: Now, it's like you could have like speed metal and

586
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 6: like celindion vocal, you know all, and then it could

587
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 6: switch to to like like a pop about hyper pop

588
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 6: ballot Like it's just it's all mixed up, and I

589
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 6: think that that's that's healthy.

590
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be freeing.

591
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: Should we do our door for segment? Okay, we're gonna

592
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: do it for a segment a segment. So our first

593
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: segment is called straight Shooters, And in this segment, we're

594
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions.

595
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: It's basically this thing or this other thing, and you

596
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: just pick one. And the only rules you can't ask

597
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: any follow up questions or we will get You.

598
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: Have to just go with your gut. Okay, Okay, George

599
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: kick us off, Yes, I will kick us off.

600
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 7: Okay, Wait, what if I don't know what you're talking about?

601
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: Okay, ready angry. No loops so rude or no food

602
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm stoofed.

603
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 6: No loops so.

604
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: Rude, Okay, no loops so rude or you snooze, you lose.

605
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: No loops so rude, burning bush or itchy tush.

606
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 8: Oh, teaches of peaches or teaches of Ivy League institutions peaches.

607
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Boys want to be her? Or toy story three.

608
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 7: Sucks boys want to be her?

609
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: Okay, an early riser or a girly geyser, girly guyser,

610
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ superstar or Pedro motivar.

611
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah that's motiva. Okay, posting a dude or fisting a dude.

612
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 7: Fisting dude of course.

613
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

614
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: Well, we rank all our guest performance on a scale

615
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: of zero to one thousand doves, and I'm gonna be honest,

616
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 5: that was a clean, one thousand.

617
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Clean, one thousand doves. Incredible work.

618
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 7: Has anybody not got.

619
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: I think maybe only four people have gotten like around there? Yeah?

620
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, is that when doves cry?

621
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 5: No, it's actually from a little known Lady Gaga song

622
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 5: called one thousand Doves from the CHROMATICA album.

623
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh it's a deep cut.

624
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 6: I was just saying that, Yes, exactly, great great, thank

625
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 6: you for that fun fact of course.

626
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

627
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: Do you know the wrapper Cupcake? Oh yeah, don't you

628
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: think she's amazing? Oh yeah, because I feel like she's

629
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: in your tradition. Yeah, like I feel like you two.

630
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 6: Love Cupcake very hardcore by very hardcore, way more hardcore

631
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 6: than I could ever be.

632
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Her new album, which didn't get as much.

633
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 7: It was like.

634
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: A few months ago. It didn't get enough. There was

635
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: enough writting about it. But it's she's like lyrically at

636
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: the peak of her powers. It's crazy, like you just

637
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: it's like a genius at work.

638
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 7: Yes, you know what.

639
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 6: I'm also really proud of a lot of like flatuation,

640
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 6: flatulation references. Yeah, and also just on more like you know,

641
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 6: making things more funny or real in that way.

642
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's ice spice.

643
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about farts.

644
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always confuse self flagellation and flatullation fratulation.

645
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 7: Maybe that's questions.

646
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: Self fratulation or self flatulation. Well, actually, in the pro

647
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: lapsed world, it's almost like those two converged. Self flagellation

648
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: converged with flatellation, then they got prolapsed.

649
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 7: What you know that like a haircut? Is it like

650
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 7: a quiff?

651
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Like a like a quaff a cuff.

652
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 7: What's a quiff? Nothing?

653
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know what.

654
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: Well, sorry, you're saying a cough and a quief.

655
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 6: Your quaff quiefed you like a special kind of quaff

656
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 6: markin quief, you.

657
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: Can quef for your cough. You always American is referenced

658
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: in your album as well. I always love when people

659
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: reference Americans, Yes, because it reminds me of the time

660
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: when bin Laden was assassinated and my friend said, I'm

661
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: proud to be a Murkin.

662
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't that was knowing. Yeah, the Merkan always confused me.

663
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Speaker 3: I was sort of like, wait, so why did this exist?

664
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Speaker 6: It was for I mean, I might I I don't

665
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Speaker 6: really know, but I think that it was. Was it

666
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 6: during the plague or during some some really bad history

667
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 6: time where people were having a lot of trouble and uh,

668
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 6: sex workers had to shave their.

669
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 7: Their hair and.

670
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 6: To be more attractive they used mrcants. And this is

671
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 6: a different answer I've given on a different podcast, So

672
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

673
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Speaker 1: Most say, what you're promoting is that.

674
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Speaker 7: Like that my own method like making up for what

675
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 7: is about?

676
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: I mean, that's as good as a reason as any

677
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: I can.

678
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Speaker 6: Think of, but I know that it's about like I

679
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 6: don't know if it was the plague or but I

680
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 6: know that people had to shave for health reasons and

681
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 6: then they were embarrassed and put on mrcans.

682
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 7: Which is so cool because now it's like the opposite,

683
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 7: the opposite.

684
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Well, except the bush is back.

685
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 7: The bush is back, back the bush.

686
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 6: There is a a really cool musician another one in

687
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 6: Berlin named Dornica or Dornica, and she has an awesome

688
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 6: song called bring back the Bush.

689
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love that.

690
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Well, should we get into our straight topic?

691
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 3: Yes, well, we touched on it a little bit, touched

692
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: on a little bit, so you know, we asked the

693
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: guest to bring a straight topic and we discussed ahead

694
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Speaker 3: of time what we would talk about.

695
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: We decided a show because we were you know, we're

696
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: started talking about the Golden globes blah blah blah.

697
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Speaker 5: And you said something which shocked me. You were like,

698
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Speaker 5: I've never been on an award show. No, does it appeal

699
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: to you at all?

700
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 7: I think it's like a weird thing where you say

701
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 7: it doesn't appeal to you at all.

702
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 6: But if you're being honored, then you're like yeah, and

703
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 6: you're like, what am I doing? So in a way,

704
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 6: you're sort of like perpetuating what everybody.

705
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 7: Else does on these award shows.

706
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: Oh.

707
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 6: I was on one award show. It was like the Enemy,

708
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: you know, the Enemy Awards. A long time ago.

709
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 7: I gave an award to.

710
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 6: Radiohead and I remember reading out and was I screwed

711
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 6: it up because I read it out and I said,

712
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 6: and the winner's me, you know, like trying to be

713
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 6: different and funny. And then Tommy, Tommy came up like, Okay, thanks,

714
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Speaker 6: it's actually.

715
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Speaker 1: That's someone with a real amazing sense of.

716
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Speaker 7: I don't know, maybe they really do. I don't I

717
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 7: don't know.

718
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess I don't technically know. Little

719
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: project it very obviously, but.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I don't know if I'm built for for

721
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Speaker 6: award shows.

722
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 7: I also get a lot of.

723
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 6: The anxiety if you have to read teleprompters. I feel

724
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 6: it's so weird. I'm like, it goes too fast and

725
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 6: you just don't feel spontaneous.

726
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: Have you ever performed in like, uh, I don't know,

727
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Speaker 1: I don't know what. I'm sure it's not like a

728
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: corporate kick, but like for a room of like stiff

729
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: business y famous people where you're just like it's not

730
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: it's not your crowd, and you just have to like

731
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Speaker 1: go through the motions of the show.

732
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Speaker 7: Oh.

733
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Speaker 6: I've definitely performed for stiffies, but not really like a

734
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Speaker 6: bunch of celebrities like a Grammy no oh no no.

735
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Speaker 6: The closest thing I did was Samantha Bees This is

736
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 6: not the correspondent, but that was fun.

737
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone's on your side.

738
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean yeah, So I haven't really had that.

739
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 6: But I've had stiff people where I've like maybe played

740
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 6: for like like some kind of fundraiser where there's like

741
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Speaker 6: people who are patrons and they don't know who I am.

742
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 6: And I remember one time I decided to do this

743
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 6: act where I go to sing in white pants and

744
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 6: then my period just happens the pants and their tear aways.

745
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: So I'm like standing there and I never sing and

746
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 6: the music's playing, and then you know, blood is seeping

747
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 6: through the white pants and then I pull them off

748
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Speaker 6: and it's just like kind of bloody on my and

749
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: then this woman was so terrified that I ran off

750
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 6: stage and ran after her.

751
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Speaker 1: And that was a foundraiser for Saint Jude's Children's hospital.

752
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 6: Right, it was like an art thing actually, but yeah,

753
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 6: I started just running after people.

754
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 7: I was like, what can I do?

755
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Speaker 1: Now? That's amazing, I will say.

756
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Speaker 3: I'm always like like I'm always like, yes, please more

757
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: punk rock, be nasty. And then one time I was

758
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: watching a Sarah squirre, like I was watching Sarah squirm

759
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: and I just started getting so genuinely nauseous and I

760
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: was like I'm going to throw up, like and it

761
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: was like I was like, what is going on? Like

762
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Speaker 3: I had to leave and like go dry heave outside

763
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: for a little bit, and I was like, what is

764
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: wrong with this?

765
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Is honestly how I feel it.

766
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 7: Did you understand? Did you find out what it was?

767
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it was just like you get nauseous.

768
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: I get nauseous. I struggle with body horror, I have

769
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Speaker 1: to say.

770
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Speaker 5: And it makes me feel like such a little due

771
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 5: because I'm like in theory, I think it's so like

772
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 5: I think in theory. In theory, I love David Cronenberg movies,

773
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: but every I'm like, oh, just.

774
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 7: Sticking their fingers.

775
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 3: I mean even like even the Pit or something. Yeah,

776
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm gonna I always I watch like this.

777
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

778
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a performance artist in Europe. She's from Vienna.

779
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 6: Her name is Florentina Holtzinger. I talk about her a

780
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 6: lot because she's incredible. She does like these huge productions

781
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 6: that are both like everyone is female identified and naked

782
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 6: on stage like chainsawning wood or like like motorcycle driving

783
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 6: around other bodies or like falling downstairs, but also just

784
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 6: like high art and just crazy, crazy, amazing stuff. And

785
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 6: they did a a recreation of an old opera called Sancta,

786
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 6: which is about lesbian nuns. And there were people that

787
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 6: got fully nauseous to this. If people were running out

788
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 6: and puking because there's also they also do like hooking.

789
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: Hard to watch. We were just a folsome street fair.

790
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: Have you ever been there in San Francisco?

791
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

792
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: I have, and.

793
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: Sting, pissing, and like I celebrate all of it, but

794
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: it's like there is like I got nauseous. Well, you

795
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: know what's funny, it's like all the whole the reason

796
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 3: those things that I'm having is because you're taking people

797
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: that are participating or taking back something that should be shameful. Yeah,

798
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: and then you are confronted with your own in harem

799
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: prejudices and shame. No matter how accepting an inclusive you

800
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: think you are. It's like you see something unfamiliar, something

801
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: that is combining something that's shameful with something that's sexual,

802
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: and you don't have time to unpack that in the moment.

803
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 6: So in the moment you're like, oh, well, I have

804
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 6: well for someone to say, Like when you had that

805
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 6: experience at the Sarah Squirm show, was it live like

806
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 6: you were there?

807
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, So were you like I hate the show or no?

808
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: It was like, I think I was performing too, so

809
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: I was also probably nervous, and so I was like,

810
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: I think I was like watching her getting nauseous.

811
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: Both. I don't really get nauseous, even just before performing,

812
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: if I.

813
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 6: Get yeah, yeah, I understand that. Yeah, I used to

814
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 6: get nauseous a lot more. This is not about sexual anything,

815
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 6: but in cars and in planes. And then I realized

816
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 6: it's because my mom was smoking in the car with

817
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 6: the windows up, and people were smoking on planes.

818
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: Oh that makes sense.

819
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 7: I realize, Oh, it's just smoking that makes me nauch.

820
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still, like always obviously always loved Sarah's vibe.

821
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I was just like it was hidden in a different way. Well,

822
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: there is.

823
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 5: I do think there's an entire I don't know, sort

824
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 5: of genre of things that you can like in theory

825
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 5: but not in I don't think that's true for Shara.

826
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 5: We both love sir, But like, there are just things,

827
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: even music too, where I'm like, in theory, it's so

828
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 5: cool someone is doing this, and I want so badly

829
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 5: to like it, but it's not.

830
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 6: For me right, Like in theory, Gigi Allen shitting on

831
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 6: stage is cool, but do I really want to smell

832
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 6: this shit?

833
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 7: And do I want him to hold it up to

834
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 7: my nose exactly?

835
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: Exactly? Were you aware of the time when Lady Gaga

836
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: had a vomit artist vomit on her at south By Southwest.

837
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 7: Yes it was green vomit.

838
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that's a great example.

839
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 7: You know, it's so funny.

840
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 6: Because the Florentina Whold singer, I'd seen her do that

841
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 6: exactly with green vomit, not saying I don't know that

842
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 6: Lady Gaga knew anything about that. But there's also this, uh,

843
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 6: Jubilee Brown. There was this a Toronto artist who and

844
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was there's a Okay, now

845
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get is there some artist.

846
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 7: Ah money or not monee. But some some artist doesn't

847
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 7: use a certain color literally like the artist.

848
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: Talking about some like avant garde.

849
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 6: Or like uh, someone in someone in your podcast right now,

850
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 6: but they literally had that color like in their mouth

851
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 6: and entered the museum and puked all over the paintings.

852
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 7: In that color.

853
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 1: WHOA, my god.

854
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 6: This is like a huge history of like performance artist. Yeah,

855
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 6: I'm puking.

856
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 5: Like I want to know more about your relationship to

857
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 5: the art world because it's something that is so uh.

858
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 5: The art world is often so alienating to me into

859
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 5: both of us, I think because it's such a closed

860
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 5: black box and so often it feels like it's a

861
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 5: way for rich people to launder money and very valid,

862
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 5: you know.

863
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: What I mean.

864
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 5: And I but then occasionally you will see something You'll

865
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 5: like walk into the gallery and see something transcendent, and

866
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: you're like, Okay, so there is still interesting stuff happening,

867
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 5: but I feel so not knowledgeable about where to go

868
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 5: and where to find it, Like are you involved in

869
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 5: that world.

870
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 6: I have friends that are artists, and I like their

871
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 6: work and I feel their their work is important. I

872
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 6: you know, the art world is very confusing. I can't

873
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 6: even understand it, so because I.

874
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: Feel like you overlap with that, Like I think people

875
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: could call your performance through that's amazing. Do a line

876
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: of mercans? Yeah you thought about that. Yeah, what brand

877
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: partnerships are we thinking for this album cycle? Uber Eats?

878
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: Maybe an AI company?

879
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 7: Yes, all the AI companies.

880
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: It's good, it would be great for you.

881
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 7: How do you spell it again?

882
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: We'll look it up. We'll look it up.

883
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 7: I have done. I did. I used to sell mercans

884
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 7: at my show.

885
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: They were the color of that money is not allowed

886
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: to use.

887
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 7: No, we had the like the paint beside it, and

888
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 7: you could puke on the.

889
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: Puke on your own. It's more sanitary that way. Yeah,

890
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: I guess to return to Award shows being straight. Yes,

891
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: I think this is something. This is maybe I hate

892
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 3: when this is a new peeve I'm building, Okay, where

893
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: it's like when things are for the cameras more than

894
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: the people in the room, and they have people in

895
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: the room, like I can see the exhaustion of people

896
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: like sitting there being like, Okay, we gotta like smile

897
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: more because it's all gonna be on camera, Like we

898
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: gotta take it again because it's gonna be on and

899
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: I'd rather they like do an event, film it and

900
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: then like cut it together later, right, because I get

901
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: annoyed when something is a live event as a performance

902
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: of what a live event is and not actually just

903
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 3: a live event.

904
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 7: Do they do that? A lot of award shows do

905
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 7: it over again.

906
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: I feel like.

907
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 3: They're like taking stuff again if it doesn't like if

908
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: you like stumble over it or like that's not true.

909
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: It just it doesn't have that like I don't know,

910
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: so few things now have that like live feel where

911
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: you think like something could go wrong and maybe someone

912
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: makes a mistake and takes a wrong step, like it's

913
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: also edited or something.

914
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: Well, there's like a sanitization where even like you like

915
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: saying like in the Winter is me, I'm like, we.

916
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: Need more people should do that. We need even to

917
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: like fuck with it a little bit. Yeah, why didn't

918
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: Julia Roberts do that at the Golden Globes? Would if

919
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: it's so funny?

920
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 7: Did she win?

921
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: No? She presented one of the big awards like Best

922
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: Picture or something, right, Yeah, what was the best?

923
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 7: But I don't know, I don't tell to you.

924
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 5: Best Picture Comedy was one battle after another, which is

925
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 5: crazy that it was included comedy, it's not really comedy.

926
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: And then Best Picture Drama was Hamnet.

927
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 7: Have you seen that either? Have you No, I'm curious.

928
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm curious too. I've heard Jesse Buckley is uh, who

929
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: won Best Actress last night, is like phenomenal in it,

930
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: and she's sort of cool to me. She seems cool.

931
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Well no, And then the other issue,

932
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 3: of course, is like Awards for Creativity is completely insane.

933
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I'm always like, why are we doing this?

934
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 6: And then also why do people dress up? Why is

935
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 6: everybody dressing a red carpet look? And then it's like judging,

936
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 6: it's just judging all the time. Yeah, it's more judging again,

937
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 6: it's judging the best award is judging the best outfit.

938
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: And it's like, but yeah, it's interesting because award shows

939
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: in some ways are very gay.

940
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously they're created try and four gay guys,

941
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 5: but there is something I think it's almost like they're

942
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 5: gay in retrospect. They're gay as like cultural moments you

943
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 5: can look back on and be like, oh, she was fabulous,

944
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 5: blah blah, But in the moment it's very straight because

945
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: it feels like you're they're just hurting cattle.

946
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: They're like, look at this one, right, I lost weight.

947
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Look at this one. Her hair is different. Yeah, look

948
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: at this one. She got a divorce.

949
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 5: It's just like it's truly just like a lineup of

950
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 5: people that are being judged. I feel like something that's

951
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 5: very straight is like the archetype of the entertainment tonight,

952
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 5: like interviewer, like someone who's like, so.

953
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: We're having an amazing time here, Peaches, the new album

954
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: is fabulous.

955
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and so I do think it's like

956
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 5: in the moment, there's almost something like sounds.

957
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 7: Very campy the way you're saying that's true.

958
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: I know it. Well, you're doing like hunger game style hunger.

959
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: There is it is very hunger, It's true, But I

960
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: feel like there's such a lack of uh, imperfection, like

961
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: everything has to be like so perfect, and even when

962
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: someone's being like I'm rocker.

963
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 7: They're like yeah, yeah.

964
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: Well.

965
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 5: The other thing that straight about it is that in theory,

966
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: the you know, they're trying to reward art, but in practice,

967
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 5: to state the obvious, there's like campaigns happening, and of

968
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 5: course the Best Actor Award is not going to go

969
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 5: to I don't know, the person that gave the best

970
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 5: performance whatever that means. It's gonna go to like whatever

971
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 5: studio paid. So it is like I think the straight

972
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: thing about it is just turning art into a competition,

973
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 5: which like you know, but then of course the camp

974
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 5: comes out of that because it's so rigid right that

975
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: you can the seams start to show, and that's when

976
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 5: it's fun.

977
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 7: It has to be surfaced, but so like, yeah.

978
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can find depth in the shallowness.

979
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: To quote Daria, there you go. I do think being

980
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: a presenter awards show is like seems kind of fun,

981
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 3: oh totally, like because it's such a low like I

982
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: feel like the bit you have to do like doesn't

983
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: have to be like amazingly funny, Like if you're even

984
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: like half funny, you can like be like blow their mind.

985
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: It's because everyone's so stiff. Yeah, totally.

986
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe I feel like maybe it's a

987
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 6: fine line, like you just don't know, like what's gonna

988
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 6: you know.

989
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 7: Be just weird for everybody else.

990
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: That's true.

991
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: This is also the outfits thing when it comes to

992
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: I find so exhausting and even like as we like

993
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: I've started to think more about outfits and like be

994
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: like okay, so now like even just like normal events,

995
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 3: I need to like have a fun outfit.

996
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, how do you make peace with that? Well?

997
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: You always look it's like you're always in. This is

998
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: sort of like Rick Owens, I know.

999
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 7: Sure is.

1000
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: Clocked.

1001
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, because it's also like that again

1002
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 6: with the Ward Show. It's like show as much skin

1003
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 6: as possible until the moment that it's gonna be talked

1004
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 6: about in a negative way, not not from my mind,

1005
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 6: but in that sort.

1006
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 7: Of straight like yeah, totally. It's so strange.

1007
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that you should, Like I think

1008
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: the most punk rock thing you can do you could

1009
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: do specifically me tell me what I can is to

1010
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: wear just like the most conventional like form fitting, boob

1011
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: forward red dress and then do your hair like like

1012
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: a Hollywood startlet, like just like blonde like that.

1013
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 7: No, I think no one would battern and they'd be like,

1014
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 7: who's that?

1015
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I have a pitch. You wear like a

1016
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: life is Good T shirt like long rainbow flip flop.

1017
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 7: That's it.

1018
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: That's maybe you're like walking a dog. That's a really good.

1019
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 7: Maybe like a few dogs, like I'm a dog walking.

1020
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you're on your phone the whole time.

1021
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 7: That's solitaire and I have a blue tooth like sal yeah,

1022
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 7: that's it. There we go.

1023
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: But the whole time on the blue it's not like

1024
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: a business call.

1025
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: You're like planning, like like like which highway you're going

1026
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: to take to get somewhere.

1027
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: Like you're like, well, there's a lot of traffic on

1028
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: the four one.

1029
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 7: Trying to get out of it, trying to get out

1030
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 7: of there.

1031
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: No loops, so rude. I love saying that that is catchy.

1032
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 7: It is if you don't, because you know, it's like

1033
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 7: all about.

1034
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 6: Getting to a new level and becoming and having comfort

1035
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 6: and finding new ways, not just like let's get it

1036
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 6: done from one one side to another. And it also

1037
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 6: it relates to you know, men a puzzle dryness of women.

1038
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 6: And also you know, fisting is not I mean, lube

1039
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 6: is not just for you know, gay men who forgot

1040
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 6: their paupers to fistl.

1041
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 5: Do you feel like if we're living in a prolapse era,

1042
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 5: the antidote is lube. It's like we have to enter

1043
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 5: a lube mindset.

1044
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 6: This is exactly what I'm talking about. Because's so much

1045
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 6: friction and dryness in the world, you know, So it's

1046
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 6: likely maybe if we had some like magical loube that

1047
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 6: could just like help us talk to each other or

1048
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 6: like interact with each other in a way that didn't

1049
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 6: feel so itchy exactly.

1050
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: So to recap, living in a prolapse world is the

1051
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: only prop world. I'm a live girl in a prolapse

1052
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: perhaps world. I do hate when there's loub on the

1053
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: floor and then for like a month, you're like, this

1054
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: is a danger.

1055
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 7: It is a danger.

1056
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 6: That's why I also had all these ideas like yeah,

1057
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 6: loub on stick no, no, no, that's sticks around.

1058
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: Who in the music industry do you think is a fraud?

1059
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 10: Who's a fraud in the music industry, like one of

1060
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 10: your peers, one of my peers. So funny, I don't

1061
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 10: even consider myself in the music industry.

1062
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 7: Let's just say that.

1063
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 6: Really Yeah, well, I don't really feel like part of

1064
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 6: the industry.

1065
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: Church like I don't.

1066
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I feel like you're someone who

1067
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 5: like can dip into that whenever you want, because.

1068
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 7: You're so then I don't have to be. So that's

1069
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 7: what I mean. It's not like I'm not I'm not controlled,

1070
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 7: but you're in your stream.

1071
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1072
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: Oh, there's nothing better than saying that into a podcast

1073
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: micro vote. No, we've been called out for that before. Yeah, yeah,

1074
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: it's true. Are you afraid of AI?

1075
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 6: I I can't say that. I mean, yes, yes, of course,

1076
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 6: I think we're all afraid of what AI can do.

1077
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 6: I think that I do use AI, and like I

1078
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 6: think we all use it. Like it's there is uses

1079
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 6: for AI, and they're also creative uses, but there's also abuses.

1080
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 6: So it's really it's confusing. Yeah, it's very confusing, but

1081
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 6: it's also detrimental.

1082
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 7: And it's also like.

1083
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 6: AI can't get all the information because there's also all

1084
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 6: these libraries with amazing like archival information that has not

1085
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 6: been read to that needs to be all read to AI.

1086
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 6: If you really want to have everything, you know, there's

1087
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 6: gonna it's gonna kind of run out of its own

1088
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 6: information in some way, but which doesn't make it any

1089
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 6: less scary totally.

1090
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and then entire swaths of knowledge will be

1091
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: completely forgotten.

1092
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 6: And entire swaths of knowledge are not even being considered,

1093
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 6: and and of course people are pumping it with certain

1094
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 6: you know, fascism ideologies.

1095
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 7: And that's really scary.

1096
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: Too, because you live in Berlin. Does it feel shocking

1097
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: to come back, like to come to America now.

1098
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 6: Well, it feels shocking to come and you know, what

1099
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 6: happened this week, what happened last week with Venezuela, what

1100
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 6: happened this week with Renee Good is just it's uh,

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Speaker 6: it's it's not shocking, but it's shocking. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's actually or you know, yeah, it's because it's going

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Speaker 6: to be like martial law soon. Like I'm my tours

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Speaker 6: in February, February twentieth, let's see if we're still here.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's a great note to end on. You can

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Speaker 7: take that out if you want.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I mean I do find it.

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Speaker 3: It's so conf I mean, your work, you know, is

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Speaker 3: dealing with the issues of our times. But it is

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Speaker 3: hard to like plan for the future. It's sort of

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Speaker 3: like what will be happening in a year. If I'm

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Speaker 3: like planning something for a year from now, it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: what what will the world look like?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I kind of feel like that also with writing

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Speaker 6: an album too. I don't like save up all these

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Speaker 6: things because like things happen you're right, they just happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and it's happened. But that's actually a sort

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Speaker 1: of not a silver lining. But I completely agree with

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Speaker 1: you that. Artistically, I feel like when you have an idea,

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Speaker 1: you just have to express it now, yeah, because will

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Speaker 1: either feel irrelevant or outdated or like too late if

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Speaker 1: you do it in like six months. Like there's just like.

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Speaker 7: Dick writing instead of like speaking out ye.

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Speaker 1: Completely, yeah, does everyone speak out speak?

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Speaker 6: I feel like I'm really I'm you know. I also

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Speaker 6: want to mention like a band like the Lambrini Girls.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you know about them. They're like

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Speaker 6: pure punk amazing, speaking off of fascism, like in the audience,

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Speaker 6: starting their own mash pits, but like really responsible.

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Speaker 7: I feel like there's this new age.

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Speaker 6: Of like punk and speaking out but also taking care

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Speaker 6: of everybody. Like there's this there is like care element

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Speaker 6: that you know, even with like sex parties and things

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Speaker 6: like that, but which which I think is very important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I've always trne that to be a a nice

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Speaker 3: part of that. Like the sex culture in general is

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Speaker 3: very like after care focused and consent focused and testing

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Speaker 3: focused and all this stuff, which I really appreciate without being.

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Speaker 6: Corny, without the way that like, you can take it

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Speaker 6: as far as you can take it, and everybody can

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Speaker 6: take it as far as they need to and it's

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Speaker 6: not really like the way you take it that far

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Speaker 6: doesn't mean I have to.

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Speaker 1: Final question for you. What's more annoying over intellectualizing sex

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Speaker 1: or over intellectualizing nightlife?

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Speaker 6: Hmmm, I would say over intellectualizing sex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be embodied. Yeah, to be in

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Speaker 1: the moment. Up, get going and get going? Should we?

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Speaker 1: Let's do our final segment. So our final.

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Speaker 3: Segment is called shout outs, and we pay homage to

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Speaker 3: the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out, where

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Speaker 3: we shout out anything that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas.

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Speaker 3: We will go first the yes as brief as you want.

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Speaker 1: George, I'm gonna do. I'm going to do the most

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Speaker 1: like basic corporate shout out as a sort of commentary

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Speaker 1: on the fact that we are with like an iconic

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Speaker 1: punk rock musicch Great, Okay, what's up everyone? I want

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Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Todd Snyder and specifically

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Speaker 1: the Todd Snyder store at the Grove. I very last

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Speaker 1: minute had to you know, attend a black tie event.

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Speaker 1: I don't own black tie, you know, despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that I'm currently wearing this pretty conservative outfit, I you know,

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Speaker 1: normally think of myself as pretty alternative. And so I

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Speaker 1: needed to.

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Speaker 5: Buy a tuxedo last minute and they were able to

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Speaker 5: rush everything, tailor it to my tastes. It was affordable,

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Speaker 5: and I said, you know what, todd Snyder, you know

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Speaker 5: what you're doing.

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Speaker 9: Bro.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to the sales rep at Todd Snyder who

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Speaker 5: said that we shouldn't, who said we should hang out,

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Speaker 5: but then didn't give me his contact info or tell

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Speaker 5: me his name.

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Speaker 1: I think you're rad. He had this whole story about

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Speaker 1: his husband recently got laid off, so I want to

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Speaker 1: send out my thoughts to him and hopefully hands on

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Speaker 1: his feet, and pretty much shout out to all gay

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Speaker 1: guys that work in customer service anywhere, whether it's your stores, restaurants,

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Speaker 1: coffee shops, you are our bravest troops.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, if Tuslaer hears this and they potentially want

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Speaker 5: to give me like a gift card or something like that,

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Speaker 5: I would be open to. That would also be open to,

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Speaker 5: and I'll donate some of it to a cause of

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Speaker 5: everyone's choice, like New Sox.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, whoa thank you? Okay, I since you went corporate,

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Speaker 3: I actually going to doub and go even more corporate

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Speaker 3: and insidious. Okay, what's up freaks, losers and of course

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Speaker 3: perverts around the globe. I want to give a huge

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Speaker 3: shout out to the television program RuPaul's Drag Race. I

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Speaker 3: you know, as we all know, we've had fatigue from

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Speaker 3: this TV show for roughly a decade now, and then

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Speaker 3: this week it came back and we watched it at

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Speaker 3: my house and I said, you know what, this is fun.

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Speaker 3: We've been through a cycle of like this is amazing,

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Speaker 3: this is revolutionary, to like this is taking time off

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Speaker 3: of my life, and to now I think we can

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Speaker 3: be at a place where we are at peace with

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Speaker 3: it and we are saying this is simply a part

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Speaker 3: of our world and it's fun to watch. You don't

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Speaker 3: need to freak out about it, you and just enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm saying, you know, it's nice to have something

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Speaker 3: to watch on a Friday night before.

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Speaker 1: You're any eagle. Yeah, so shout out our bulls Drag Race.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate just having something to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, xoxo, Sam, Wow, and good luck to all the

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Speaker 3: girls this season, and good luck to all the girls

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Speaker 3: this sees, especially the ones we like.

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Speaker 6: Good Luck to all the drag queens.

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Speaker 1: This is all the dragons. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Peaches, I I've already said it, but I'm just

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Speaker 6: going to shout out all the musicians who are making

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Speaker 6: an effort to speak out and to integrate it in

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Speaker 6: their show in a way that makes it powerful, that

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Speaker 6: mobilizes people. And shout out to people who are speaking

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Speaker 6: out and really saying something and keep doing it. It's

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Speaker 6: so important, it's so important for us. I know we

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Speaker 6: are all scared and it's really I'm closing my eyes

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Speaker 6: because it's it's so real, like trying to scare us

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Speaker 6: from saying anything. And it's so important. So shout out

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Speaker 6: to all of you for saying something. Shout out for

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Speaker 6: you for even thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: That's it, And no lube So Rude is out. February twentieth,

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Speaker 1: feb This is going on tour.

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Speaker 6: It starts February twenty Europe, North America February twentieth to

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Speaker 6: end of March.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, amazing, Thanks so much for doing the politic

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Speaker 3: Thank you such a treat.

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Speaker 1: We're so honored. Yeah, thank you. Okay, bye bye podcast

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Speaker 1: and now for our visual learners. You can watch full

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Speaker 1: video episodes on our YouTube channel and.

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Speaker 3: Subscribe to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month.

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Speaker 1: At patreon dot com. Slash Stradio Lab.

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Speaker 3: Stradio Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 3: Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Me George Severis and Sam Taggart.

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Speaker 3: Executive produced by Jenna Kagel, co produced by Becca Ramos, edited.

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Speaker 1: By Lawrence and mixed and mastered by Doug Bam.

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Speaker 3: Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grubb. Theme music by

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Speaker 3: Ben Kling