WEBVTT - Episode 397: LOL (Feat. Coco Jones) 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.040 What's epislift service. I'm Angela Yee, I'm g G Maguire, 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:10.640 I'm Jazz. My friends, I'm Laura Mura. I'm Coco. Yeah, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.080 Coo here Courtney? Right? Is it when people call you that? Ever? 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.800 Only my family and like my childhood friends. It's really 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.600 like Hannah Montana type thing. And when I started singing, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.280 my mom was like, you're gonna get another name? Okay. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:28.120 I was like yeah. She was kind of like, okay, 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.600 if there's gonna be like contracts or whatever, like she 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:32.600 wanted to be separate from my government name. And plus 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.599 when I go back to Tennessee and needs to give 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.319 stay humble. So, dude, if you're dating a guy, right, 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.680 does he call you Coco or Courtney the way you 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:45.800 got straight into it. I normally when I'm when I'm 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.040 dating a guy, I kind of get cringed out when 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.280 they call me Coco. Okay. I don't know why I 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:52.920 do that. Yeah, I don't know why I do that 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.200 because I have some of my friends that I've known 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.720 for a really long time that I met in LA 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.920 they called me Coco. But then I have other friends 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.640 that I also meant like as an adult that call 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.720 me Courtney. I don't know. I don't know. Whatever sits right. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.280 If it don't sit right, then I'm like, change that 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.160 one up, because I always think that about like when 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.840 entertainers have a different like a you know, kind of 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.920 a stage name, but it is a play on your 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.360 real name, so I get it. It's like a nickname. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.440 But then when you're in bed and they're like, oh, Cocoa, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:24.720 You're like, whoa you know, yeah, I don't know. It 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.679 just depends. I think. Also sometimes it's like a if 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.440 I meet somebody in the industry and we all do 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.320 things in the industry, then it's weird if they call 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.880 me Courtney, because I'm like, hey, we're in the industry, 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.920 like this is this is that? This isn't that you 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.160 know what I'm saying. And especially if you introduce yourself 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.600 a certain way. Yeah, I think whatever you introduce yourself as, 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.039 I would think they would kind of keep didn't go 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.319 with that. But sometimes if I tell a guy what 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.559 I like, I tell them I do something completely different. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.040 Like sometimes I'll be like, oh, I work for my 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.040 parents construction company. My name's Courtney. I'll do a completely 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:57.320 different life. They do not, they no, they really don't. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.120 One time, I did tell this guy that's like my 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.400 go to fake career year in life, and so I 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:02.840 did tell him that, and then we went to this 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.200 restaurant and then the waiter was like co I was like, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.880 right now, it is that deceptive though, because then let's 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.120 say you really like this guy. Now even lied, what's fine, 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.800 He'll be all right, I feel I mean, he's gonna 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.440 have to come and understand because it's not like easy 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.959 to just honestly, Sometimes it's weird for me to even 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:25.919 say that I'm a singer, like what do you say 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.160 when you ask? What do you do? Honestly, if they're 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:33.280 asking what I'm doing, I'm probably going to lie, which 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.800 is not great. But it's because if they don't ask them, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.119 they already know, so we don't even have to even 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.520 talk about it. I don't know. Is it weird to 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.080 talk about Yes, like it is, And I feel like 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:48.160 sometimes guys be like I'll be like, oh yeah for me. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.880 She came in and Mutu was playing and she started singing. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.960 I was like, Okay, you really no, that's hilarious. Sometimes 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.760 I honestly sing without even knowing. But it really just depends, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.200 I think for me too. It's more like the vibe, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.000 Like if I feel, oh, this is a normal person 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.520 or they have there's still some normalcy there, then I'll 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.040 be normal too. But if they're all industry, if they're 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.600 all weird, then I'm a lie. Where did you meet 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.840 the guy that you hum up to like about your 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:19.360 career too? Get him? Would you ask where did she 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.360 meet the guy that she lied to about her career, 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.480 because then we would know who she is? But where 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.120 did you meet this person for them not to know 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.200 who you are? That's a great question. So when I 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.680 do normal things, like when I'm not doing like work stuff, 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.960 I like to do completely normal things if possible. So 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.360 at that time, I had went with my homegirl to 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.360 the guy she was talking to is like little house 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.000 party kickback, and he was there, and then I'm always like, hi, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.080 like let's see if they know like how they act, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.560 and he was giving confused and didn't know. I was like, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.440 oh right, okay, Hi, you don't see you If your 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.120 home girl's talking to a guy, he already done. Tell Okay, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:59.440 so my girl is bringing Coco Jones, so like, but 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:04.480 at you don't know her because she loved that. Now 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.520 that would be some triggering com triggering. I don't know, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.600 because my friends, like they're not all in the industry either, 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.720 Like I have some friends who are like like nurses 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.640 or you know, like in their own fields that have 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.560 nothing to do with music, and they don't understand it 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.280 at all, like like law or something, you know. So 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.360 it would be one of those friends who just wouldn't 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:25.880 even think to bring that up. Some of my friends 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.080 don't understand why people know me. Like look, we were 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.200 walking under block and these women turned around like them, 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.960 and there's like, why are they looking at us? People 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.800 be knowing who I am sometimes like you forget sometimes 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.520 like you walking around and then they stare and I'm like, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.839 what the hell are they stare? And she's like, I 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.760 mean I am standing there to you. Oh that's right. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:46.800 Like my best friend I walked out of her house 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.200 and the neighbor was like, hey, Angela, and she was like, 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:54.680 how do you know my neighbor? And I'm like I don't. Right, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.000 it's also got to be interesting too, because you're you're 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.080 going to race here, yeah, so like your family and 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.640 stuff's here and your career. Like from me, I feel 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.840 like when I go to LA it's like a different world. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.120 It's none of my family's there for real, Like it's 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.320 always been about work. When I went there, I couldn't 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.680 imagine if I was born and raised in the place 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.520 where my career. Also, So you were raised in Tennessee, right, 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.760 but you were born in South Carolina. I was born 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.280 to Southlina, raised in Tennessee. Do you live in LA 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.400 now or I do. I moved to LA when I 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.800 was seventeen, and then I came to New York for 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.960 a year because I was doing Broadway. And then I 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.200 came back at eighteen and I was like, Okay, I 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.520 can do this now. Broadway it's tough. Y'all know. First 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.839 of all, y'all know I love going to Broadway plays. Okay, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.400 I said, Lord to see her first Broadway for Color Girls. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.000 Oh yes, we went. Yeah, we went to go see that. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:41.760 And I just went to go see d Wood. She 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.720 does all these plays now. She was in Black Odyssey. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.760 So I just went to How did you like doing Broadway? 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.160 Did a lot? It was just so hard, Yeah, I was. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.320 It was the hardest part about it. Well, I mean, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.400 it's everything is up to you. It's all depending on you. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.520 Like I guess in the acting world, you're kind of 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.279 catered to a little bit. More like you can go 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.440 and get your hair and makeup done. Do you want 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.080 any breakfast? Your breakfast will be in your trailer when 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.000 you get back. Da Hey, they're ready for you. They're 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.760 not anymore. Go to your trailer and it's warm in there, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.880 and you can light your own candles. Here. It was like, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.280 you're with everybody. We'll be here at seven am. No, No, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.160 where's my microphone? They were like, put it on. I 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.840 was like, what about my outfit? Here I go, I'm 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:22.440 carrying props. I was like, what the hell is this? Though? 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.560 It was grounding, and I will say like I was like, okay, humble, humble, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.280 And I appreciated it for the skill and the art 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.320 and the passion of it because the people around me. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.080 I was the youngest one and the newest one. Actually 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.719 that's not true. There was this little kid that played 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:37.320 a little kid, but he was like a vet in 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.880 it too. They getting newbie. They were like, girl, get 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.680 your props together. I'm sorry. After that experience and you, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.840 you know, do other jobs in the industry, you think 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.760 you ever like circle back and maybe give it another 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:53.120 try once you have some more kind of experience something about. Honestly, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.680 I could see myself wanting that challenge again because it 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.640 really was a little more. Yes, it really did bring 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.159 out something something in me that's like I felt like 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:09.520 a g a Bronx sale. Yeah, okay, right, okay, So 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.360 I would do it again. And especially if I one 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.720 day have the goal of doing like the Egott type life, 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.000 I would have to circle back right, Well, you have 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.560 a sense of humor. Have you ever considered doing like 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.520 a little stand up or anything? People have said that, 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.600 They're like, you need to do comedy. I'm just like, 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.480 I just do not see myself getting on the stage 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.320 and not singing. I feel like I'd be like a pretender. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.840 I don't know. But you can sing in your comedy. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.280 That now part of your whole because yeah, a whole 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.680 new trend you could be. I mean, I want to 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:43.000 offer me a bag to do it. I will figure out, yeah, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:50.400 used to sing ye party with my new career path, well, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.480 I'm really trying to break into artistry and really like 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.400 solidify myself as one of the R and B girls. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.000 And then, honestly, I would I would take on anything 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.160 I don't want to put myself in any type of box. Well, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.880 congratulations because I feel like the stars are aligned hello 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.920 for you right now. It's been crazy my life, but 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.160 my life has literally been crazy. I just like we 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.080 were all talking about, I had this performance in DC, 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.480 and I was literally so emotional because the last time 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.800 that people knew the words to my songs and like 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.040 were there just to see me. Like I was literally 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.720 like sixteen, wow, and I had been I was just 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.880 signed and I felt how I feel now, like oh 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.240 my god, it's all coming together, you know, and it 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.360 just did not at that time. So it's like deja 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.439 vu in a way, and I'm just like, I understand 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.800 why it didn't work out that that way. Thank you God. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.199 I'm so glad because had I known that it was 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.320 going to be like this, I wouldn't have even been 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.400 that pressed. Yeah, but you know, you can't ever know. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.720 You never know, and sometimes, like in the moment and 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.280 you were younger too, Yeah, it's so much harder when 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.800 you're oh my gosh, had this anticipation and you think 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.920 you're right there, and then it feels like the world's 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.880 gonna end. It felt it felt like the world itself 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.600 was ending. I was like all of you are not 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.720 existing because the world is over. Like my dreams, My 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.640 dreams were my everything. I didn't care about boys, didn't 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.160 care about none of that. So then I had to 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:11.880 go and live. And like I met these usc girls 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.280 that became like my best friends. And when I was 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.400 outside and then I was like, oh wait, the world, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.520 the world, a whole new world, shout out to a ladder. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.720 But I guess in the time, like I had to 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.599 grow because I was so naive. I literally was homeschooled 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.040 at the time. I only cared about jobs, and like 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.600 when the next opportunity, I didn't want to be outside. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.600 I didn't even know what outside was giving. I never drank, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.920 did none of that. So like I needed things to 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.320 write about and real artists be living that life. Yeah, 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.240 be about that, Lite, I need you to get your heartbroken, okay, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:46.000 And did shout out to ICU, right, thank you and 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.120 not tell us about the heartbreak? What happened? L O 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:53.800 l um. Well, Honestly, I think at the time I 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.800 wasn't the best version of myself because my career and 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.400 the things that made me me, they were so up 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.680 in the air, so uncertain. So at the time I 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.600 guess I wanted a relationship way more than I should have, 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.200 you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't that he 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.720 didn't want the same. It was more like I was 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.680 just not focused anymore. Like I was like, this, this 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.520 career hurting me. So what we're trying to do? You 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:17.719 know what I'm saying, Like I don't even want to 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.800 There's only disappointment here, like this is fun, this is safe, 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.800 this is great, you know what I'm saying. And then 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.880 when things changed and my career was starting to bubble again, 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.520 I was like, uh, sorry, hate to shift things around. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.959 And it wasn't like it was any bad blood or 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.240 anything there. It was really once my life got back 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.559 on track, I was so different and I just had 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.160 such different priorities that we could we didn't. We didn't 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.199 make sense anymore. Like he would be doing his thing 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.320 over there and I'd be doing mine over here, and 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.440 then we wouldn't see each other. And then we would 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:47.679 see each other and they'd be like, oh my god, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.360 this is great, but like our lifestyles don't match anymore, 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.600 Like what we want out of life doesn't match anymore. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.240 Now that I am back to who I am, I 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.640 want to be this girl, and this girl can't be 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.120 where you're at. She's doing her thing. You know, it 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.600 just didn't make sense. But we always would like stop 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.720 talking to each other and be like, all right, cool, 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.400 we're friends, we're good, we're good, And then it'd be 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.439 like circling back, congratulations on that, how are you? How 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:16.839 are things? One more time around the block? Just ridiculous. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.959 Did you think for a period of time that he 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.520 was the one, because, like you said, you keep going 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.679 back to somebody and you started thinking like, maybe this 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.360 is it. I think there was a time where I 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.040 thought he was the one, But I think for a 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.400 really long time I just knew he was the closest 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.240 to the one, you know, when like you have other 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.760 guys that are cool, but they're just not hitting the 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.360 way that that chemistry would hit, you know. Or maybe 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.560 it's that I was so blind by that chemistry and 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.480 what that was in the in the peak of it, 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.840 that I couldn't even see these other guys as like 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.599 good too, like solid contenders. So I think it was 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:54.640 more like I romanticized what it was and like I 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.559 wanted it to be that again. So that's like the 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.840 song double Back seem like you did it, went and 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.320 did this, and and did a whole album. Okay, I'm like, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.480 we're gonna get some content out of this band. And 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.680 it's a still giving. The sex was amazing. I don't 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.120 know if say it was the sex part of the 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:13.240 real going back, I'm scream when the sexes will we 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.800 always think they won, right, they got the potential to 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:20.720 be the one w hate you, But that's sexy. I'm 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.080 crying because it really wasn't for me. It wasn't. It 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.920 wasn't that it was like that was my first love. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.800 You know what I'm saying, Like that was that's a 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:33.000 whole different that's what That's what I knew. It was 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.679 my comfort zone. Yes, it was about comfort. Yeah, it 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.880 really was not. It was about comfort. It was really 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.600 about but it was about that too. Anyway, I'm gonna 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.800 sit one left out because sometimes but the first person 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.440 you don't know what great sex is. No, yeah, so 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.960 you think this is it and you're like, oh, it 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.839 is a sex and then you have great sex and 0:12:54.880 --> 0:13:02.480 you're like, oh, but you probably broke his heart too, though, 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.880 Like from what I'm hearing, I know it hurt you, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.400 but I'm sure he was like what the hell? Yeah, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:11.120 And that's another thing too, Like it didn't feel like 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.079 I was in it by myself wanting it to last. 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.679 He kept coming back too. It was both of us 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:21.000 like oh please, no, no, you know, like we both 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.559 were stuck on now that how it felt. How did 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.600 you break the cycle? How did you cut that in 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.600 debt well? Or how did it him later tonight? No? 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.360 Did I think I've been thinking it's over? If I'd 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.599 been thinking it's over and then it's like here we 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:41.840 go again. No, But honestly, I think for me having 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.560 my life handing out the way it is now, I 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.720 just have to be more intentional and I don't want 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.480 to learn the same lessons over and over and over again. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.280 I already literally did that before my career got back 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.600 on track. I wish I could go back and be like, 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.520 you should have been doing more content, You should have 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.640 had a better mindset. If you would had a better mindset, 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.760 you would have better actions. And who knows the things 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.600 that when viral could have went viral way before. Everything. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.480 Timing is everything, you know what I'm saying. But I 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:08.880 just don't want to I don't want to waste any 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.920 more time, and I do feel like right person, wrong 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.480 time to me is just kind of cap I feel 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.360 like if they are the right person, you you make 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.880 it right. It all just up right. You know, I 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:19.880 don't know because I also believe a wrong person right 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.160 time to wrong person right time that happens. Yeah, it 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.960 could be that. It could be that. And honestly, if 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.480 you want to tuckle the block, I'll take another hit 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:35.320 off of it album. Okay, you know how to fin 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.240 You know where I'm saying, Gig that every time you 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.600 keep doubling back, you might be blocking your blessings. You 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.480 may have better sex and better coming street waiting for you. 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.080 I do, I definitely do feel like when you're holding 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.760 onto something, your hand is tight so nothing can get 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.560 in there. You know what I'm saying, Nothing good can 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.800 get a where nothing's coming out, but nothing good's coming in. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:55.440 So I don't know. I'm just trying to go with 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.440 what feels the most authentic to me. I feel like 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.000 my intuition has kind of been on point. Well, good trust, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.120 and you're at Capricrine like me. By the way, your 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.560 birthday is a day after mine. Oh my god, over here, 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.800 so you know, we worked really hard. We're very practical. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.680 We're very practical people. Um. Now let me ask you this. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.560 Have you ever been in a secret relationship like where 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:21.480 y'all were sneaking around child? I feel like everyone has 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.840 done that at some point. I remember someone telling me 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.320 it was really exciting, like we'd be at a party 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.600 and pretend that we're not together, but then no one, 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.000 We're gonna, you know, meet up later. Have you ever 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.800 done the sneaky link thing? Um. I wouldn't say it 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.040 was like a secret, but it was more like we're 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.480 not outside with it, like you are doing your career. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.560 I'm doing my career and nobody's trying to have that 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.360 be in the tabloid. So it's giving. Yeah, it's giving 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.200 you when I see you type thing. Yeah, because life 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.680 has to be really different now because now people see 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.960 you and they're like Hillary Banks, uncle Jones, you know, 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.480 they know you for all these different things, and it's 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.200 not like you can just go to Ruth Chris. Now 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.160 that's very true. I mean everything that I do, I 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.360 feel like do I want this on the internet, Jess 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.600 and I want this on the internet. Gosh, what a 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:13.240 thing to have to debate. But that is that's and 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.400 sometimes people like that attention too, Like people will purposefully 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.440 try to do things, do things with somebody so that 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.400 it can Whenever you see somebody spotted at such and 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.440 such by you're like, oh, yeah, that's they went. They 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.840 went there because outside they called the paparazzi. Yeah, it 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.720 do be given that. Sometimes I don't know. For me, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.880 I'm just, like I said, trying to go with my 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:37.000 intuition and sometimes I'm like maybe, but it always just 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.600 doesn't feel right. So I'm not going outside with Nladdie 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.000 because I'm thinking about bel air because I do. By 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.040 the way, I love the show. Watch the show being 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.240 keeping up with it. You know, we watched the whole 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.240 first season like um last year Binge did, and so 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.200 we were excited for the new season to come back. 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.560 But we're looking at your relationship with Jazzy Jess character 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.080 on the show, and this is a real life thing, right. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.280 You don't want to commit, but then you also get 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.280 really jealous if the person that you're dating but won't 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.080 commit to is talking to other people that other people 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:11.320 like them. You know, some natural reaction or feeling for sure, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:16.399 especially for a woman. Yeah you like and normally I 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.480 feel like guys think that women want to be in 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.320 relationships so bad, like we're the ones, but in this case, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.919 you're the one that's like ump the brakes. I'm not 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.160 really sure that's what I want to do, you know. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.240 I mean, I think it does depend there. I have 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.359 had situations where the guy was way more serious about me, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.840 and I was like, it's not even giving that like relax, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.280 you know. But I think at the time too, I 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.800 think honestly, it's really about like being honest with yourself, 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:44.960 Like you can get to know a person enough to 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.760 know what type of time they're on, and then it's 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:52.720 up to you whether or not you want what's being served. Yeah, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.520 because sometimes you just went like a little fun, yeah, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.800 and to be spoiled and go out, but you're not 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.400 trying to get something serious because you are still young 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.480 and you have time. How are your parents with people 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.400 that you date and what are the rules in terms 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:12.000 for you introducing someone to your parents or your family? Um? 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:16.280 My parents. My mom is way more strict about things. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.879 My dad's more like chill. My mom's like does he 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:25.600 love the Lord? She's very southern, very old school, so 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:30.000 I'll be like yes, cries Um, that's pretty much like 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.640 the main thing. But I honestly do feel like my 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.280 mom and dad like they kind of as we've gotten older, 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.880 you know, you start to see more of the real 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.959 of a relationships because we're grown. And so I do 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.160 feel like I've watched my mom kind of like evolved 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:48.840 more and I feel like she's more modern minded in 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.959 the fact that like it's not just does he love 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.040 the Lord? It's like, Okay, well what does he go 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.080 to therapy? Like what is his what are his mental value? 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.640 What is he value? Like where's his where's his head at? 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.800 You know what I'm saying, Like things that honestly are crucial. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.000 So for a guy to go to therapy for you, 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.040 I do think it's important. You don't have to go 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.680 every month, but like you gotta circle the black every 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.359 once in a while because I just feel like, if 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.720 you go to the doctor for your body, yeah, I 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.879 think you need to go to therapy for your emotions 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:18.880